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fleet sphinx
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we knew that forever

zenith forge
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I mean like I feel like there's a difference between ||turning someone who could expose your betrayal into a bioweapon|| and ||turning a dax/low guardian into bio weapons cause they banged lmao||

tranquil rain
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He still turned a person into a bioweapon against their will

zenith forge
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One is to save your ass

tranquil rain
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That doesn't justify it Unga

zenith forge
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The other is cause you're just a ass

zenith forge
echo ruin
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i mean

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theres also just the orokin's entire existence lmao

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they just straight up body snatch children after parading them around to live longer

zenith forge
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Oh yeah!

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That's fucked!

echo ruin
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the grineer are also all like

zenith forge
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I used the wrong punctuation!

Like a dipshit!

echo ruin
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dying of organ failure to due to being clones of clones of clones ad infinitum

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who knew doing that would start making your dna fall apart at the seams lmao

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theres also the fortuna debt slaves having all of their body parts repossessed and replaced with cheap cybernetics

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and like

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just the whole process of how a warframe is made in the first place lmao

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gara being like the only to willingly volunteer for that process and ballas being astounded by it lmao

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which makes the player being one of the strongest entities in game really funny, especially since their most notable power is basic human empathy lmao

zenith forge
echo ruin
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nah

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gara is the only one to have actually volunteered for the process

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only one we explicitly know of at least

zenith forge
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Wasn't that a part of mirages quest tho?

echo ruin
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mirage probably just altered her abilities during the process

zenith forge
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It mentions that she was laughing through the procedure or smth

echo ruin
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that was after becoming a warframe or during

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we dont know if she volunteered for the process

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also like

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mirage's quest is also old as fuck lmao

zenith forge
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Makes ya wonder what the fuck chroma was like prior

echo ruin
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i wouldn't be surprised if they retconned some part of it

echo ruin
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because lotus implies that the synthesized chroma from his quest is the original chroma

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like a chroma umbra or smth

zenith forge
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Chroma umbra would be so fucking sick

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Give him good 1 and 4 lol

echo ruin
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but it couldve been a recreation like mesa was but the implications that its the original are there

zenith forge
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Og chroma prolly could use all 4 base elements simultaneously lol

echo ruin
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he needs a rework lmao

zenith forge
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Honestly they should do that tbh

Him having to pick and choose 1 at a time feels like a less fleshed out lavos

echo ruin
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as it is his gameplay is kinda boring

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just keep 2 and 3 up all the time

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even wukong has cloud walker and stick for shenanigans

zenith forge
# echo ruin he needs a rework lmao

Honestly it's piss easy

Make 1 a fireball that maxed out all base elemental stacks on a target and in a explosion radius, 1 augment leaves aoe
2 applies all wards simultaneously
3 unchanged
4 tap all elemental infuse like toxic lash 10% each, as a channel, hold is identical to now

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3 could be changed to multiplicative DMG IG, and give it straight up DR for better tanking, but it's fine as is tbh

echo ruin
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nah thats boring

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let him keep the element switching

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but make his 1 have different effects depending on the element

zenith forge
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Honestly chroma feels like the frame where he really shouldn't have nuance

echo ruin
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like toxin could make him spit out a toxin goo that lingers on the ground for cc

zenith forge
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He's the "hit this MFer as hard as possible" guy

echo ruin
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his 4 shouldnt be so energy hungry either lmao

zenith forge
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I mean if you have a toxic lash for all base elements id wager that should be very energy intensive

echo ruin
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it has and always been the switching of elements

zenith forge
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I mean like in lore I always kinda read the whole him being the master of elements thing as more so he's so strong he can use all 4 simultaneously, unlike most frames who specialize in 1 or two

echo ruin
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yeah but like

zenith forge
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And the whole switching elements thing feels way better done on lavos, so i feel like chroma being able to use all the base ones consistently is the best way to go imo

echo ruin
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they could play into his dragon aesthetic more

zenith forge
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Oh definitely

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Give him di as his 4th

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Make him peak

echo ruin
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chroma just doesnt have a good enough kit to justify said switching of forms from like the one that provides the best buff to elemental ward lmao

zenith forge
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True!

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However

echo ruin
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he also doesnt really play into that aesthetic or the dragon aesthetic too much either

zenith forge
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I feel like unless they really tune up his abilities he's always gonna struggle with being able to switch, cause 1 is generally always better

echo ruin
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all his abilities are so boring lmao

zenith forge
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I'm fine with him being boring kinda

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I just wish he was the defacto best weapon platform frame cause that's all he is

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He lives and dies by his weaponry

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Like the gunplay in Warframe is fun

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Hence why I main him

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I just wish he was better at it

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Having a primer for gunCO and elemental weapon arcane would be great, having all wards means toxin ward can help weapon usability and survivability, and a elemental infuse ability feels right for the supposed "master of elements"

echo ruin
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they could make him stay a weapons platform but combining all 4 elements into his kit into one just sounds supremely boring for what they could do to him

zenith forge
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It's prolly the easiest way to buff him

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Also

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Please de

echo ruin
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look at what they did to wukong lmao

zenith forge
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Uncap toxin wards effectiveness on reload buffs

echo ruin
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hes got like the best rework in the entire game lmao

zenith forge
echo ruin
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i never thought of giving him a clone ability but it just fits right with his aesthetic

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tbh

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give chroma an exalted greatsword lmao

zenith forge
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Wherein
1 is elemental infuse, using 1 element, hold lets you choose which
2 is ward, with its own element to cycle on hold cast (emissive 2 determines start element)
3 is same
4 is a DI power, buffing all base stats involving movement, and giving 1 and 2 double dipping buffs based on both elements chosen

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So if you tap 4 with heat 1, cold 2 you get cold and heat infuse with 1 and both hot and cold wards on 2

zenith forge
echo ruin
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combine 2 and 3 into one ability, make ruinous effigy a duration based 3 and make 4 the exalted greatsword

zenith forge
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Hmmmm

echo ruin
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1 could be a projectile that differs depending on what element hes using and is most importantly not another fucking channeled abiility lmao

zenith forge
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True

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But channels mean energy conversion goes hard as fuck on him

echo ruin
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ruinous effigy could even change the landscape the same way oberon's grass or nidus's 4 does

zenith forge
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Ay wait a minute

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This is just like that one Reddit post a while back!

echo ruin
zenith forge
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Lol

echo ruin
zenith forge
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Bad breath attack!

echo ruin
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i just had a mint breath attack

zenith forge
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Spectral scream should just be a infuse tbh

zenith forge
echo ruin
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his 1 should more flare to it

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less flamethrower effect and more shin godzilla atomic breath

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alright

zenith forge
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You shoot

echo ruin
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instead of exalted greatsword

zenith forge
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Attack has big AoE boom

echo ruin
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turn him into am exalted orowyrm lmao

zenith forge
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Of selected elements

zenith forge
echo ruin
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so true

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titania but im running into even more stuff

zenith forge
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DOOT STUCK

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DOOR STUCK

echo ruin
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tbh ngl im kinda fucking with that idea rn

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it definitely fits his whole thing as a dragon/dragon hunter

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they could have an enhanced and better looking spectral scream for that form and have the elemental infuse for his base form

echo ruin
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it definitely gives more precedent to him killing a sentient dragon

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just turn into a void dragon lmao

fleet sphinx
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and now

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i want a frame with an exalted gunblade

zenith forge
echo ruin
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i got 3 and a half hours left on my mod booster who wants to arcane/endo farm

zenith forge
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Hold up I gotta shower then I can

zenith forge
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Just got a go log in

echo ruin
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alright cool

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you wanna do endo or arcanes?

zenith forge
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I am out of Endo lol

echo ruin
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alright we need a squad for that so unless two other people here wanna join we need to hit up recruit chat lol

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you got nekros, nidus, or khora?

zenith forge
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Nekros and khora

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Er nidus

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And I have niduses helminth

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So I can bring nekros with either roar or grouping ability

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Which is better?

echo ruin
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no thats what nidus is for

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if youre using nekros all you need is despoil and a slash melee

zenith forge
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Guh

zenith forge
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Do I need to turn gore on?

echo ruin
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probably not?

zenith forge
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And can a slash primary work?

echo ruin
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it has to be a melee

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theres really no need for a primary but you can

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as long as you kill them in the killzone

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but a melee is preferred

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since the setup is two nekros with despoil and then a min range khora set up in a certain spot in sp arena then a min duration max range nidus pulls them all towards her cage

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the min range is so that melees can hits enemies and that the endo is all grouped up together when they drop

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hmm

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you got vazarin maxxed out?

zenith forge
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Uhhhh

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No

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I don't have it at all

echo ruin
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damn rip

zenith forge
echo ruin
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well just set up zenurik at the spot then lmao

zenith forge
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I have that

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Does my melee need only slash DMG?

echo ruin
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no just slash based so it cuts enemies into chunks lmao

zenith forge
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Ok

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So galantine works?

echo ruin
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yep

zenith forge
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I should grab my tigris

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Heheh

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Prime access load out

echo ruin
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alright so

zenith forge
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Can tigris chunk up enemies?

echo ruin
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theres gonna be a spot like outside a door

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i want you to setup there

zenith forge
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Ok

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Can you waypoint it?

echo ruin
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yep

zenith forge
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Thx

echo ruin
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you done?

zenith forge
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I can do more

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20k?!?

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Wow!

echo ruin
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was wondering cause you left the squad lol

echo ruin
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how much endo you got now?

zenith forge
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40k

echo ruin
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nice

echo ruin
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you wanna keep going or do you have enough endo gor now?

zenith forge
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Moar

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Plz

echo ruin
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and thats all of my mod booster lmao

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shouldve farmed more ducats

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how much you got now

zenith forge
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97k

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This is a shitton lol

echo ruin
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its a shitton til you realize that primed mods take 40k to max out lmao

zenith forge
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Ye

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Man I wish toxin wards reload buff didn't cap out at 160%

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Lemme hit absurd reload speeds, he needs it

echo ruin
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lmao so true oomfie

zenith forge
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If it wasn't capped RN I'd have 480% on it

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Literally double fractalized reset lmao

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Id have a half second reload on the corinth prime

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It'd be so pog

echo ruin
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lmao yeah

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hmmm

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im kinda lost now lmao

zenith forge
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He needs it

echo ruin
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i have no idea what i want to do for now

zenith forge
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Common Warframe moment

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I should go to bed

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I worked out today and genuinely can barely move my legs lmao

echo ruin
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lmao rip

tranquil rain
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Leg day still got me sore

zenith forge
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I'm gonna go 5 days a week to get stronk

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Anyway imma go sleep now, it's been fun, thx for the endo

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I hope I can get up tomorrow

echo ruin
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alrighty

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good night now

echo ruin
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lmao

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rev up those ayas boys

zenith forge
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16?!?

echo ruin
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yeah

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a lot of farming to be done lmao

tranquil rain
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Gonna need 60 Aya by the looks it for all the rare relics

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Looks like I got my farming cut out for me

zenith forge
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I thought necralisk bounties were the shit for aya

zenith forge
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Anyone got spare ivara prime systems relics?

zenith forge
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And or mirage prime chassis relics?

zenith forge
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I love soloing netracells, winning, but since I grabbed the void burst key suddenly every enemy on the map explode with void dmg simultaneously killing me instantly

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I always forget that shit happens with that key and when you finish you gotta do it far away from everything

zenith forge
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Excalibro or excalibro umbruh chat?

zenith forge
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Game awards tonight

Y'all think they're gonna surprise drop 1999?

fleet sphinx
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when are the game awards

tranquil rain
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15th iirc

fleet sphinx
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unga just said tonight

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but what hour

tranquil rain
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I dunno

zenith forge
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If you link twitch to Warframe you get a free nyx for watching half a hour

fleet sphinx
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i already have nyx

zenith forge
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Yeah

fleet sphinx
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i think that was legit the first frame i made

zenith forge
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Dunno why they wouldn't do nyx Prime

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Tbh

fleet sphinx
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i remember a different year they gave out titania prime

zenith forge
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Ye

fleet sphinx
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and so thats how i got titania prime

tranquil rain
zenith forge
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They gave out sayrn prime last tennocon

After I paid and made one already

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

fleet sphinx
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i bought one and made one literally like

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6 years ago?

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saryn was my first prime

zenith forge
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Ye

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Ngl

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Not a saryn fan

zenith forge
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Someone ping me if 1999 drops today

fleet sphinx
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TOMORROW

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@zenith forge

zenith forge
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Pog thx

zenith forge
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Me at work rn

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Id listen to NIN if I had headphones

zenith forge
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Anyone try 1999 yet?

tranquil rain
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No, I've been Helldiving

zenith forge
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Started the quest

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Immediate hotfix started

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Meaning if kicked out mid quest

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So naturally

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I quit and am now waiting to go back in

zenith forge
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Beat 1999

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Holy shit

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||the indifference is not fucking around I see!||

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Also I was kinda suspect on the whole pre req to the quest being the duviri paradox but the logic behind it is genius in hindsight

fleet sphinx
zenith forge
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Got some new interesting mods there too

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||they got a internal bleeding but for magnetic now||

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||but it's exclusively a shotgun mod||

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Also there's some ||dual stat magnet mods||

bronze loom
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Warframe moment

zenith forge
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All elemental infuse augments now run parallel to modding

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As of last patch

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I can freely build my gun and still always get blast

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I'm Sol fucking backguy

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Finally

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A reason to use cold exclusively

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Chilling reload+shivering contagion+primary frostbite

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I'm Sol fucking backguy

bronze loom
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You're sol badguy fucking?

zenith forge
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...no

bronze loom
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You're fucking sol badguy?

zenith forge
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No

bronze loom
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Fucking sol you're badguy?

zenith forge
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NO

bronze loom
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Badguy fucking you're sol?

zenith forge
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NO

bronze loom
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Lavos?

zenith forge
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Lavos augment is also parallel to modding now yes

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So you can run shit like gas with extra heat infused in

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But hear remains its own thing

zenith forge
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I'm sad to report the thermal transfer change didn't open up radically new strategies modding wise because I'm running it on chroma

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On paper I wanted to run shivering contagion plus a cold 60/60 mod to abuse frostbite

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Unfortunately that is horribly overshadowed by the 546% blast my weapon gets, effectively stomping the scale in the favor of blast

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ATM the 2 main ideas if have going forward is to just mod my gun for either 1 base elements for gunCO or run viral to use it with blast

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The good news is they slightly reworked thermal transfer to make it better

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Now having both cold and heat up simultaneously combines the buffs into blast, to refresh this blast buff you only need to cast 1 type of sunder

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Meaning it's effectively half as expensive to maintain top DPs with it now which is nice

zenith forge
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Fun fact

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Atomicycle can be used in any mission

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And they saw it was a bug but legitimized it

bronze loom
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Sad they took it out of archwing before i got to try it tho ๐Ÿ’”

zenith forge
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Fun fact

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Limbo can summon the atomicycle while in the rift to ride around completely immune to non rifted/eximus enemies

zenith forge
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Im tryna make a funny zenistar build but the logistics of it are a nightmare

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On paper it's as easy as slapping on gas/blast+elec+influence badabing badaboom

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But tryna optimize the shit is a nightmare

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Got 2 conflicting sources saying the disk works off CO, while another says nuh uh

The disk allegedly scales with both speed and range so I have to debate on wether or not I invest in attack speed exclusively (rely on influence for procs)

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Or use range and get more overlapping influences

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Then there's the debate of do I run extra dual element mods (like focus radon, mag rush) for more CO if it works

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Ok so turns out I'm a dickhead who misread influence

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I thought on electrical proc I had. 20% chance to yeet out 1 of each elemental status on my weapon, but no

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Turns out I need a melee electric proc, to get a change to proc all effects from future attacks to nearby enemies

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Which is good

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Unfortunately that means I run into every problem I have with running chroma with thermal transfer

I can't proc other effects consistently cause I'm literally stomping the scale to blast only essentially

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Tho learning that I think Imma drop range for more chances to proc electricity via mor hits per second

calm fiber
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God I love this update

zenith forge
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Chat I have great news

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||aoi and Arthur aren't dating currently they're ex'es, I was gonna date Eleanor but now I'm genuinely debating the pivot||

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Minor chatting with hex spoilers ig

fleet sphinx
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i just got like 150 achievements all at once because i launched warframe

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i dont know why i didnt have them on this account before

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i already have 100 hours on this steam account

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holy crap i got so many warframe and weapon slots and formas

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i have SIXTEEN formas

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its time for my grind to start

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the grind for 200 platinum so i can change my name to blindsloth

fleet sphinx
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@zenith forge we gotta play soon

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i did some grinding today and got my nidus prime from level 0 to 29

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theres so many different things since i last played

zenith forge
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If you do whispers in da walls we can run netracells

fleet sphinx
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i have no idea what netracells are

zenith forge
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Those are really good to do

fleet sphinx
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but i do know that i need to do that quest

zenith forge
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Yknow archon hunts?

fleet sphinx
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yeah

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i dont think ive done a single one

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but i know them

zenith forge
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Ok

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So

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Netracells let you theroretically get 5 archon shards a week

fleet sphinx
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i dont know what those are

zenith forge
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Along with legendary melee arcanes and melee weapon arcane adapters

fleet sphinx
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i dont ever use melee

zenith forge
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You can use 5 per frame

fleet sphinx
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btw i realized what my best weapon is currently

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it isnt ignis wraith

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its a nataruk

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which i forgot existed until i saw it in my equipment

zenith forge
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Oh yeah that thing fucks

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Clean shots off that do gang busters

fleet sphinx
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it doesnt have that good of crowd control but the damage is insane

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and i could just use a frame with good crowd control to make up for the lack

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like, say, the nidus prime i just leveled up

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i dont have a good build on him yet tho

zenith forge
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If you run fulmination the aoe goes up alot

fleet sphinx
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i dont think i have that

zenith forge
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I'm pretty sure the nataruk shoots explosive bolts at least

fleet sphinx
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they look explosive

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but they dont really have aoe

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i was shooting right next to enemies and not hitting them

zenith forge
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It's small I think

fleet sphinx
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and hitting big groups of enemies and only hitting the ones that it pierced through

zenith forge
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Try blast on it

fleet sphinx
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ngl i didnt even check what mods were on it

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btw i just checked i dont have any mod called fulmination

zenith forge
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The near 200% Crit you can get plus the good status with 60/60s means if you get blast on there you'll proc blast, instakill the enemy, then they explode for 30% of the damage you just did cause new blast

fleet sphinx
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i wonder if i can check my loadouts on this app

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oh holy crap i actually can

zenith forge
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Nice

fleet sphinx
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cant change it tho

zenith forge
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Yeah figures

fleet sphinx
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what is toxin and electricity combined

zenith forge
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Corrosive

fleet sphinx
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ive got corrosive on my nataruk then

zenith forge
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Corrosive is good

fleet sphinx
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how do you get blast again

zenith forge
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Albeit better on fast weapons

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Cold heat is blast

fleet sphinx
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ah

zenith forge
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Viral (cold toxin) is a option if you wanna go all in on single target

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That plus hunters munitions for Crit based slash goes crazy

fleet sphinx
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i think i do have hunters munitions

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yeah fully upgraded too

zenith forge
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I will say though viral priming is better outsourced to a companion but it is what it is

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I wouldn't bother worrying about that yet

fleet sphinx
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i dont really have good companions yet anyways

zenith forge
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Do you have arbitrations unlocked?

fleet sphinx
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eya

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yea

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havent done any yet but i unlocked them in preparation for some sort of farm

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endo farm maybe?

zenith forge
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Id say priority 1 rn is sp, and galvanized mods if you don't gottem

fleet sphinx
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i have a few galvanized mods

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i had one on the nataruk

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galvanized chamber

zenith forge
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Galalcanized gunCO and multi shot mods are the best

fleet sphinx
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i only have chamber, hell and savvy

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i think i got galvanized hell back when i used to use hek

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someone got it for me so i could get a good build iirc

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i have a kuva hek now i completely forgot about that

zenith forge
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If you like semi shot weapons like the hek getting semi-weapon type cannonade mods can be great

fleet sphinx
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i like the rubico

zenith forge
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Way more base damage than normal base dmg mods, punch through for 9 mod capacity

fleet sphinx
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i like punchy weapons mostly

zenith forge
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On rifles and shotties it's like +240% and 1.5 punch through

fleet sphinx
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sniper rifles, pistols like lex, bows, stuff like that

zenith forge
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Only draw is no modifying firerate

fleet sphinx
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i currently have a lich that has a bow of some sort

zenith forge
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Which is a double edged thing

fleet sphinx
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i seem to remember the kuva bow being really good

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but idk if it was nerfed

zenith forge
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Cause if you use cannonade and Crit delay it negates the drawback of it

zenith forge
fleet sphinx
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i gotta get my lich then

zenith forge
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Just less good cause bad ammo economy

fleet sphinx
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i see

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i remember it being part of some sort of good farm of something

zenith forge
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Nothing a good ole ammo mutation can't fix

fleet sphinx
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i just dont remember hwat it was a farm for

zenith forge
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I think it was just genuinely good across the board lol

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High Crit
Good aoe

fleet sphinx
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it was a crazy one where you just spam the bow while running through corridors and if you have enough explosive power on it it just kills everything in every room

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argh i dont know what it was a farm for

zenith forge
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Oh that's prolly orokin cell?

fleet sphinx
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was it endo? plastids? who knows

zenith forge
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Run the Saturn exterminate

fleet sphinx
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i dont think it was orokin cell cause it wasnt in the orokin place

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it was a grineer map

zenith forge
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Orokin cells are most common on the Jupiter tileset

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Ironically

fleet sphinx
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thats weird

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i still dont think it was cells tho cause i dont really have a shortage of them

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what kinda stuff do you get on the like

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weird watery grineer tileset

zenith forge
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Neptune?

fleet sphinx
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idk how to describe it cause i dont remember which planets its on

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but it has like rocky areas

zenith forge
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Prolly plastids, polymer bundles or terrellium

fleet sphinx
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i think i farmed grineer manics or something like that on the tileset once

zenith forge
fleet sphinx
#

maybe

#

oh oh i think i remember it being part of new war too

zenith forge
#

Polymer bundles or terrellium farm I'm guessing

fleet sphinx
#

there was like a big eidolon down there or something?

zenith forge
#

Yeah

#

That's Neptune

fleet sphinx
#

hunhow probably

zenith forge
#

Cause hunhows down there

fleet sphinx
#

man im remembering all the cool lore of this game now

#

as much crap as i give the game it really is a sick world

zenith forge
#

True

fleet sphinx
zenith forge
#

I love going back to 1999 on SP only to see those acolyte fuckheads followed me there

#

Buncha jackasses

tranquil rain
#

I actually haven't had an Acolyte spawn on SP in 1999 personally

zenith forge
#

They don't appear on bounties

#

Only innate normal ass missions

tranquil rain
#

That's what I meant

zenith forge
#

I've had a few show up

#

It's funny as fuck

#

Like how da hell you get here?!?

zenith forge
#

Went from a +100% cc, +150% multi, -60% impact corinth riven to a +90% cc, +100 multi, +77% heat, -70% projectile speed riven

#

All in all net upgrade, just hope the speed thing doesn't murder me

tranquil rain
#

The wallbuilder

zenith forge
#

Ok so

#

There's this mod

#

Shrapnel shot

#

Adds 99% crit damage on kill while aiming

#

That plus what I currently have lets this thing rip fuckers up it's great

#

Not like I'm gonna be that far away anyways

zenith forge
#

Man I didn't realize it until I saw it, the verv sigil from the prime resurgence store is the same one people use to put boob windows on frames โ˜ ๏ธ

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โ˜ ๏ธ

echo ruin
echo ruin
#

dont orokin cells only drop from saturn and ceres

echo ruin
#

neptune is the cold corpus planet

zenith forge
#

...i was not thinking lmao

#

Work got me fucked up

zenith forge
#

Oi @fleet sphinx wanna warframe today?

heavy adder
#

Could someone explain what warframe 1999 is? Is it just like an alternative gamemode or smthing? I had a bunch of hours logged in years ago and wanted to start fresh if its a completely new experience where everyone starts at the beginning instead of just transferring all the shit they have already

tranquil rain
#

It's the latest story expansion

#

Basically, time travel shenanigans

#

And alternate reality shenanigans

#

And eternalism shenanigans

heavy adder
#

I see, ty

zenith forge
#

Today's the day I finally try PC warframe

tranquil rain
#

You get a new PC or smtn?

zenith forge
#

Ye

#

And I got a controller for PC with waggle tech

tranquil rain
#

I see

#

What kinda PC did you end up getting?

zenith forge
#

Prebuilt

#

Ipason

tranquil rain
#

I mean like

#

Tower or laptop

zenith forge
#

Tower

tranquil rain
#

Cool

zenith forge
#

Hooked it up to mah TV

tranquil rain
#

Gonna make the switch to PC gaming?

zenith forge
#

Not all in

#

But id rather get new releases on my PC than on a new console

#

No online subscription/ all my other steam games already being there

tranquil rain
#

I gotta break out my laptop in order to get the Incarnon I want this week

zenith forge
#

PC frame runs great holy shit

#

Just got a get the waggle tech going

zenith forge
#

Guys the call is unironically a bop

echo ruin
#

ive been bopping to the call ever since they released the video for it lmao

zenith forge
#

I didn't realize how pog it was

zenith forge
#

One of my weekly drops from 1999 is a mod chance booster

#

Anyone wanna farm Endo this week over today and or tomorrow?

#

If nah imma just take the forma

fleet sphinx
#

we're usually doing stuff on christmas eve, and tonight im supposed to be wrapping presents

zenith forge
#

I can hold off on grabbing the booster till the weekend

echo ruin
#

whichever works

#

otherwise i have work lmao

zenith forge
#

Sunday it is prolly

fleet sphinx
#

unless its later on sunday i wont be able to

zenith forge
#

Just rolled a soma riv with 130% multi and 200% crit

Christmas came early this year

zenith forge
#

I have made a soma build for the deranged

tranquil rain
#

Can we see it?

zenith forge
#

No element
No raw mods
No banes

All Crit, fire rate, multi, with a side of punch through and reload

And primary played round

#

The dakka to end all dakka

tranquil rain
#

No ammo mods

#

Truly a visionary

zenith forge
#

None

#

I if I don't aim correct while shooting I'll be looking at the ceiling lmao

calm fiber
#

Dual toxocyst on circuit this week

tranquil rain
tranquil rain
#

It feels so good not having to use fandom anymore to access the Warframe wiki

zenith forge
#

Lavos prime access

#

Cedo prime

#

And

The mother fucken dual zorren

#

With a passive to be able to copter

#

AND WERE GETTING A GUITAR FRAME

zenith forge
#

The prime drip looks immaculate

#

I may buy the actual prime access tbh

#

Mhmmmmn

#

Delicious disposable income

zenith forge
#

The rhino heirloom is real

calm fiber
#

Stoked for more protofranes

tranquil rain
#

I'm hype for Temple, they seem dope

zenith forge
#

Fucken

#

Guitar frame

#

Gonna hit dem sick riffs

#

Also rhino heirloom came out today

#

Don't use rhino as much as I did before, but I copped the skin anyway cause he was my main till chroma prime also the iron skin override is nice cause it gives a decent indication while also not fucking up my fashion

tranquil rain
#

I'm tempted buy the signa

zenith forge
#

It's uh

#

It's good but kinda hard to work with

#

I really wish we could like, turn signas on like the z axis

#

Like it'd look great on chroma if I could tilt it forward like, 20-30ยฐ

zenith forge
#

Belle of da beast is back

calm fiber
#

Huh?

tranquil rain
calm fiber
#

Oh!

#

Is that the Deimos one??

tranquil rain
#

It's the Jade one

calm fiber
#

OH

#

Ty!

tranquil rain
#

No problem

zenith forge
#

We ride da e elevator

For da loots

echo ruin
#

wukong prime

calm fiber
#

Where is that coming from?

tranquil rain
#

The Rhino Heirloom Signa goes surprisingly well with Mesa

echo ruin
calm fiber
#

siiiiiiiick

#

oh! it's at the end LMAO

tranquil rain
#

I missed this the first time around lmao

zenith forge
#

Lavos prime soon!

zenith forge
#

The urge to go home early and get lavos prime lol

bronze loom
#

Aughh

#

I really want labos prime

tranquil rain
#

I'm down to farm him as a group later if y'all are down

zenith forge
#

I'm tempted to buy the accessories pack ngl

bronze loom
bronze loom
tranquil rain
zenith forge
#

Anyone know the drop rates of dual zorren prime parts?

#

I hope it's not some bullshit like the akarius with 3 fucking rares

bronze loom
zenith forge
#

I TRIED

bronze loom
#

No clue then

#

Try the discord?

zenith forge
#

Not in it

#

Sadge

zenith forge
#

It's on da internets now

#

Lith for BP, uncommon
Handle is axi, common
Blade is rare neo

#

AUGH

#

2 rares isn't terrible at least

tranquil rain
tranquil rain
#

At least Lavos only got 1 rare

bronze loom
tranquil rain
bronze loom
#

Ight

tranquil rain
#

Damn, she died

bronze loom
tranquil rain
#

Waow

bronze loom
#

ik right

#

where do you grind the parts for labos prime btw?

zenith forge
#

Man

Prime access is a sham!

tranquil rain
zenith forge
#

Its 50 dollah for the accessories pack, which gets you a armor set and syndana, and a 90 day affinity/resource booster

The actual prime prime pack, which has lavos and his weapons/2625 plat costs 80

So why
In da hell does the full full pack cost a extra 10 dollah at 140?!?

#

I get that you get a extra 1.3k plat
But like

Holy shit

#

If the accessories pack had plat in it id honestly prolly buy it

bronze loom
#

man i want that full pack

#

why is de like this :(

zenith forge
#

I did the math and apparently I spent 4.5 million kuva on my one corinth riven

#

Worst part

#

Still gotta roll that fucker

tranquil rain
#

Peak

zenith forge
#

I stg the corinth prime just feels like it literally needs like, 1 extra mod slot

#

Like why's it got a 3 second reload for 20 shells

#

Like the base corinth had a 2.3 second to 5 shell reload but at least that was single shell loaded so it didn't feel bad at all to reload

#

I'm so fucking mad
Of all the fucken primes to fuck with the reload
You chose my favorite gun and knock it out of wack

#

Then there's the whole needing 4 shells to do one air burst

#

I guess it's kind of fitting the orokin overcomplicated a pump shotgun to feel unwieldy but what da fuck

#

Genuinely wish I could use the base corinth and have the prime skin as a skin

#

Cause it looks way better

tranquil rain
#

Is there really no other shotgun you enjoy?

zenith forge
#

The corinth is just peak shotgun imo

I'm mostly just annoyed they fucked with it when priming it

#

Been enjoying the trumna

#

But like

tranquil rain
#

I think the Trumna is more a Rifle though iirc

zenith forge
#

I mean yeah

tranquil rain
#

Trumna Prime is peak ngl

zenith forge
#

But like it's definitely better we'll equipped to handle modern Warframe

#

The corinth works but you have to try way harder with it

tranquil rain
#

Slap that shit on Zephyr because the tornadoes make it broken

#

Peak

zenith forge
#

Unless you use the corinth prime in which case you just can kinda spam alt fire to kill things, but at that rate you might as well grab a acceletra/kuva ogris/ etc

#

Which idk

I get it's technically better, but I miss the base corinth alt fire mainly being a setup tool to nail someone with a killshot

#

Especially cause it feels like the base one pops enemies up more

#

It's like skeet shooting

#

But you throw up your own skeets

#

The skeets are the enemy

#

Man I should just use that instead

#

Sucks, but it is what it is

tranquil rain
#

Could use the Strun and get in one that sweet sweet Incarnon swapset

zenith forge
#

Eh I got it

#

It's good but it's not the same

#

Like it feels like your shotgun mode is a means to an end there cause you mainly want to be in incarnon mode

tranquil rain
#

What about the Felarx?

zenith forge
#

Honestly I hope at some point we get universal incarnon adapters

Like not with explicit extra modes, just the extra stat buffs (have em scale off riv dispo)

zenith forge
tranquil rain
#

How

zenith forge
#

Full auto single shell loaded shotgun that caps out at six shells

tranquil rain
#

Yeah, and it's sick

zenith forge
#

It feels like that and the corinth prime should have the opposite mags/reloads tbh

#

That and the incarnon mode feels kinda eh

tranquil rain
#

The Incarnon mode is kinda eh

#

You mainly use the shotgun part of the felarx

zenith forge
#

I mean yeah

Problem is I don't like that mode either really

#

So Im kinda left in this catch 22 scenario

#

Like Smth like the laetum or the phenmor, I'm not a fan of their base modes

But those incarnon? Sign me the hell up

#

Idk I'm picky with my incarnons of choice

tranquil rain
#

What about the Latron or the Burston orthe Boltor?

#

Or some other Incarnon I'm definitely forgetting

zenith forge
#

Haven't tried latron
Burston base mode is eeeeh, but the incarnon is fun, though I don't like the base form enough to generally avoid it
Boltor is fun
Soma prime is fun
Braton is fun
Strun is ok
Boar is really fun, albeit it gets kinda stale after a bit

#

The zylok incarnon is fun, it's just a damn shame it's kinda bad

tranquil rain
#

Torid?

zenith forge
#

Eh

#

It's good but boring

tranquil rain
#

Not a fan of beams?

#

Me neither ngl

zenith forge
#

Honestly I'd rather just grab my tenet glaxion and have perma beam

tranquil rain
#

Damn

#

He is a fan of beams

#

It's so over

zenith forge
#

Having a shitty launcher that I need to get direct hits with to get a good beam is silly, when I can just, have good beam

zenith forge
#

Cause initial hit causes beams to chain off

#

But with punch through it can get multiple initial hits

#

Meaning if you pair it with gas it can essentially scale off enemy density

tranquil rain
#

Wouldn't blast be better for that

zenith forge
#

I mean

#

Eeeeh
Maybe?

#

Blast electric

#

But I like using gas cold to abuse primary frostbite on my tenet glaxion

tranquil rain
#

You can probably get all 3 on a Tenet

zenith forge
#

also thermal transfer sunder chroma gets free blast

tranquil rain
#

Easy peasy actually now that I think about it

zenith forge
#

Rn I get cold, magnetic, and gas on my glax

#

Which is surprisingly good, cause magnetic basically becomes electricity on shield / over guard break

#

But yeah honestly a set of generic "universal incarnon adapters" would be cool cause honestly the biggest boom of incarnon weapons are those upgrades

They're basically free mods, which sometimes are actually MULTIPLICATIVE to traditional modding (see incarnon upgrades that boost Crit/status chance)

#

Genuinely smth like that would be such a good kick in the ass to older weapons to gettem to work better in modern day, and it scaling on riv dispo means that a lot of already good weapons can still technically get better, but only by a little bit

zenith forge
#

Genuinely tempted to buy the accessories pack both for the armor and the 90 day booster

#

Imagine how much K U V A I could get

tranquil rain
#

Mmmmmmm

#

Kuva

zenith forge
#

The more I need kuva the more relatable this gets

tranquil rain
#

I honestly understand him perfectly, I merely lack the will to follow in his footsteps

#

I also lack a Smeeta Kavat but that's besides the point

zenith forge
#

I do not wish to aquire one

#

But the method is understandable

#

SP kuva survival fissures

tranquil rain
zenith forge
#

I need K U V A

zenith forge
#

Man motherfuckers really sleeping on the xoris/rauta combo and I intend to optimize this shit cause there's potential

#

I think imma need dual stat mods to have rauta be a primer, then have the xoris as the kill killshot

#

Rauta gon be gas cold mag with shivering contagion/magnetic shotgun mod for fire rate, I think also maybe might use the "on reload have increased fire rate mod"

zenith forge
#

Just got maxed secondary eneverate

I need a kuva nukor now

#

Base 5x multiplier is insane, the abysmal 7% cc is meant to balance it, but eneverate just lets it do beeg deeps

zenith forge
#

They should totally re add super jump as a gag helminth ability

#

It'd be really funny if it scaled off everything

#

Like range affects the forward distance, str affects the speed at which you travel up for, and duration affects how long the leap goes for

#

So with high everything you can just blast over maps

zenith forge
#

It uh
It went

#

Honestly you might be better off running rauta with glaiveprime with primary and secondary dex equipped

#

That and or the melee focus tree

#

The problem is the rauta is weird to build

#

It's got weirdly high status and low Crit for a shotgun

calm fiber
#

oh, brutal

zenith forge
#

god I wish there was a primary equivalent of secondary eneverate

#

That arcane is the fucken bees knees

quick stag
#

yooo

#

a warframe thread

#

pog

quick stag
zenith forge
quick stag
#

god i wish they made azure shards apply before mods

zenith forge
#

Prolly would make em too good tho

#

And extra 200 Smth armor before mods would be nuts

quick stag
#

yeah

#

i hope they atleatsd look at azure shards

#

only thing i use them is health regen

zenith forge
#

Personally I love lemon shards (they let me fly with extra parkour)

quick stag
#

true

#

plus they are needed for orange

#

getting 5 tau orange for mesa was worth it

zenith forge
#

A bunch of lemon shards with parkour plus infested mobility chroma is hilariously fun to use

quick stag
zenith forge
#

Fuck dem Titania's THIS is real flight!

quick stag
#

lol

#

havent built chroma for anything except profittaker

#

and i didnt even learn his fight lol

zenith forge
quick stag
#

yeah

zenith forge
#

Elemental ammo packs go hard

quick stag
#

but double credits

zenith forge
#

Really wish that was his helminth

quick stag
#

speaking of credit farms

#

1999 safes are way to go to grind credits

#

i think if oyu stack up all boosters and chroma you can get about 800k per run

#

waaay less investment than PT too

zenith forge
#

Rn I'm sitting on like 11 mil cause I haven't needed em lmao

zenith forge
quick stag
#

i really needed when i was farming endo

quick stag
#

endo famring is the worst out of every grinds in game

#

i feel like nothing compares to how bad it is

#

mostly cuz how optimized it is

zenith forge
#

I mean the sedna arena method does kinda suck unless you have a coordinated group with boosters

quick stag
#

i meant senda arena

zenith forge
#

Personally though just running arbs for statues isn't too terrible

quick stag
#

yeah but

#

kinda slow

#

but yeah its less mind numbing than arena

zenith forge
#

But passively grinding other stuff is also nice

#

Tho imma be honest

#

Why TF is the arb honors exclusive avatar worth like Jack shit Endo wise?

quick stag
#

yeah lmao

zenith forge
#

If I'm buying one of them for 50 virus it should be worth at least as much as a anayasa

quick stag
#

its less worth than anisu

#

lmao we both misremembered it

#

its anasa

zenith forge
#

Dem ayatans got wack names

calm fiber
zenith forge
quick stag
#

my fav is naroman cuz its just gives non decaying combo and i dont have to go in operator

calm fiber
#

Wild

zenith forge
#

I like the energy one

quick stag
#

vaz is second fav

calm fiber
#

Couldn't be me

zenith forge
#

Just

#

Free energy

quick stag
zenith forge
#

I just pop out use 1,1 then immediately transfer back in

#

Usually with other energy management it's easy to maintain even if I forget

quick stag
#

people are saying arcane energize fell off cuz there are so many ways to get ez energy but i still love it

zenith forge
#

The operator energy bubble is mostly for mission start tbh

#

(i wish we could equip 4 abilities tho)

quick stag
#

didnt zenurik alos gave ability strength when casting 1 second time?

zenith forge
#

Lemme put the energy bubble in with void fuel so I don't gotta switch for angels of the scaryman

quick stag
#

thats kinda cool

#

if only i could remember

zenith forge
#

Mauradai being a nessesity for void angels fucking sucks

quick stag
#

True!

zenith forge
#

At least in SP

quick stag
#

i mean only times you are fighting non SP angels is when running zariman bounties

zenith forge
#

Tbf tho

SP void angels are kinda worthless to fight

quick stag
#

but yeah

zenith forge
#

Like if I need / wanna pinion farm I just run normal chart zarimen

quick stag
#

unless i need that 35k kuva iam not doing them

zenith forge
#

Mhhhhmmmnn

#

Kuva

quick stag
#

even then its jsut easier to get SE than fucking with angwels

zenith forge
#

Honestly I'd rather do void cascade for the arcanes

quick stag
#

at one point i did so many void cascades i almost run out of relics

zenith forge
#

Or sp farming acolytes and roll the guncanes into vosfor

quick stag
#

but atleast i got enough forma BP's to last me 3 months

zenith forge
#

Pog

quick stag
#

cuz no wya in hell iam buying all little ducks arcanes

#

its way fatster to just roll arcaners from loid for them

zenith forge
#

I love farming the volatile motes from the alerts

Next time the belly of the beast comes around I'm gonna be able to buy 42 energize instantly hopefully

quick stag
#

i had 2k spare motes 2 motnhs ago

#

i bought arcanes and sold them for about 1k plat

zenith forge
#

That's the other motes

quick stag
#

yeah the good ones

#

i was talking about regular

#

i forgot their name

zenith forge
#

I like the volatile more

My ass refuses to fight eidolons

zenith forge
#

Tbh energize plus equilibrium is free stonks

quick stag
#

if you are running equilibr and energized, what the hell did you do to your efficiancy

#

i think even for my 45%eff citrine its an overkill

zenith forge
#

45% eff high str/range gara

#

I must Nuke

quick stag
zenith forge
#

I need this but gara pointing ceramic dagger like a finger

quick stag
#

holy shit

#

spekaing of gara

#

exalted reworks

#

iam so ready for it

zenith forge
#

Oh yeah

#

If the shattered lash counts 4 kills as kills with 1 galv reflex boutta pop the fuck off

quick stag
#

i cant wait to fuck around with baruuk and melee arcanes

zenith forge
#

Although that begs the question how will that scale with ceramic dagger?

#

Are stat sticks just gonna be worthless?

quick stag
#

welll

#

uhh

#

Depends

#

depends on DE

zenith forge
#

Cause I feel like the gain from dagger is better than the potential gain from moddable lash

quick stag
#

if they are fully commited to reworking psoudo exalted that would mean they wont get benefits form stat sticks

zenith forge
#

(make them multiplicative for pseudos)

#

I'm evil

quick stag
zenith forge
#

What's volnuses gain from that?

#

Like astilla gets extra ammo max iirc

quick stag
#

itsd garas signeture hammer

#

looks amazing on her

zenith forge
#

Yeah ik

#

But a lot of those weapons get buffs when used by their main frames

quick stag
#

yeah

#

oh it gains 100% radial slam dmg

#

cool i guess

#

signature weapons only started to be really good around 2022

#

previously it was just random small buffs

quick stag
#

i only started playing seriously last year january

zenith forge
#

I've been on and off since plains

quick stag
zenith forge
#

Had a friend quit at starting cause of the plains sidequests you have to do at the start

#

That reworking of the early game was a Baaaaaaaaaad idea imo

quick stag
#

that was like 2016?

zenith forge
#

The plains addition? Ye

#

That being added to progression was pretty recent

quick stag
#

yeha they ramped up new player qol things leading up to 1999

zenith forge
#

Like you should have to see the plains

But you shouldn't have to do that sidequest

zenith forge
#

I cannot for the life of me understand needing the open worlds as early as they are

quick stag
#

i think the problem is too many open worlds in early game

zenith forge
#

Yeah exactly

quick stag
#

all three open worls are like 5h of gameplay away

zenith forge
#

Especially in a game like Warframe which is bad at getting you directions

#

Honestly they should add some kind of mainline progression path to give you a idea where to go on the star chart

quick stag
#

true
i leveld up my warframe to 30 and just kept opening relics cuz i didnt know hwta to do

zenith forge
#

Literally all they need

#

Is a highlighted thing

#

That takes you to the closest junction req

#

Or fuck

Make Opening the junctions a mainline quest and tell the player "this is the main progression path, if you dunno what to do, do this"

quick stag
#

i think thye alreayd did that with some early junctions

#

i recently saw some YT'er play WF for s first time and i didnt remember seeing some requirament

zenith forge
#

I think they got rid of filler requirements

quick stag
#

i dont remember these relic tasks

zenith forge
#

Nah that was there

quick stag
#

its over

#

iam getting too old

echo ruin
#

ive been on and off since volt prime's release lmao

zenith forge
#

Oh God

#

Old oldhead

#

I need a meme

#

That's the "what kind of gamer are you"

#

For warframe

#

But plains is like prehistoric

fleet sphinx
#

i started pretty early too

#

2019

#

right after hildryn was released

#

iirc the vox solaris stuff was new

zenith forge
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Starting WF in 2016 with buddies was wack

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It was hilarious going on the plains at night just to get jumpscared by the roar

zenith forge
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I need you all to understand Smth rq

THE AK/MAGUS PRIME FUCKING KICK ALL THE ASS

Fucken LOVE these things

zenith forge
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Also I've started on my mad quest to make the acrid good

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I have a plan i just need to enact it

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Secondary eneverate my beloved, turning every fucking gun into a crit gun

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That plus multiplicative gun Co
Plus crit dmg modding
Plus a single heat mod to get gas on primary, heat on AoE burst

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Then some semi canonade and elementalist for MORE DAMAGE

quick stag
quick stag
zenith forge
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Vex armor with blast thermal transfer sunder is my choice of DMG buff

quick stag
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buh?

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how does that work?

zenith forge
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Ok

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So

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Vex armor is base damage buff

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Thermal transfer is a augment for sunder that gives elemental infuses to each sunder

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Combined you get blast with the two values added

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End result

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D A M A G E

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Cause blast scales very well with raw damage

quick stag
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wait so vex armour double dips on dmg buff cuz it buffs therma transfer and weapon?

zenith forge
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Well

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It's moreso since the way damage calcs work

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Thermal transfer is multiplicative to vex

quick stag
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ah

zenith forge
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Cause your elemental is multiplied by base

quick stag
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Sounds fun, i should build chroma like that

zenith forge
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And blast procs damage is heavily scaled with your base damage

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And now with how elemental infuse buffs are handled, I can unironically mod my weapons for viral with 60/60s and get maximum benefit, cause generally you don't want to much viral weighting for status

quick stag
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true

zenith forge
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It's a fit of madness esque build and I'm hella proud of it cause afaik no one does that

quick stag
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yeah i have never heard of it before

zenith forge
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It's funny cause the build has evolved without actually changing too lmao

quick stag
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you subsumed thermal sunder over elemntal ward?

zenith forge
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Cause before elemental infuses combined with other elements and blast sucked

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So I basically ran viral heat off the cold side and hot side

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Then blast got reworked and I ran pure blast cause I couldn't stack viral/blast due to the elements combining with base weapons

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Now they don't and I get to run wild

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My chroma sits at around 300 str so that's about +1k% base dmg and +550% blast dmg

quick stag
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woah

zenith forge
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If I were smart I'dve built it so I get catalyzing shields and some augur mod/brief respite in there

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But doing that now means I'm dropping something incredibly important

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This shits running on a razor wire

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Like if I could just slap xatas whisper in over Smth except vex thatd be great to save a augment slot

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But I literally can't because DE hates fun

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(xatas whisper is like toxic lash but for void DMG)

zenith forge
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With how the build is that shit WORTHLESS

quick stag
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well
yeah

zenith forge
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The best part of chroma

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He has 2 viable subsume slots SOLKEKW

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Elemental switches, or occasional extra loot?

quick stag
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yeah his 4 is just credits laundering

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if oyu are doing endurance or regular missions you wont min max his 4

zenith forge
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Yeah

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The convenience or element switching is better

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even though I default to toxin ward

quick stag
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[Not mine]

quick stag
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i need plat

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rn fucking now

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(well in 19 days)