#Gacha hell

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reef elm
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Oh so I’m never getting that weapon

muted tundra
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it'll take a while for me to build my teams to challenge abyss anyways

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I can wait a bit

reef elm
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Oh when’s the new abyss

shrewd plinth
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Not sure when exactly, but it should be soon I'd imagine

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Since we had IT reset at the start of the month, which is 2 weeks ago by now

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So within the next few days most likely

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Also, I forgot to mention, but I was able to get C2 Iansan earlier today before the banners changed!
My Chev is still stuck at C5 though...

reef elm
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I got c1

muted tundra
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just happy to get one copy of Iansan

shrewd plinth
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Hell yeah!

crisp birch
crisp birch
reef elm
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Cool

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11 hours

fiery geyser
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Also, did the abyss reset?

toxic rain
crisp birch
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(This is my fourth lmao)

wicked gazelle
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BridgetPray thank you seri

humble citrus
reef elm
wicked gazelle
wicked gazelle
fiery geyser
wicked gazelle
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(x2)

fiery geyser
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I’m surprised the head is considered C+

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ik the subs are GRIEF, but double CDMG roll isn’t too shabby

wicked gazelle
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%hp and cd is all i need now

fiery geyser
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you’re only like 5% away from hitting 100%

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or do you use her with RMC?

wicked gazelle
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HeliosTrue you're technically right!

fiery geyser
rocky palm
rocky palm
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Castorice scales off of that harder than anything else

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Anyways here's 3m damage in MoC, against the boss with 32% damage reduction or something

wicked gazelle
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Everything?

plain bluff
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roll another Castorice

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your current one is unfixable

rocky palm
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Unusable

rocky palm
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the fish is EXCEEDINGLY foolish

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I blame you for this @humble citrus

reef elm
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E3

rocky palm
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still got 135 pulls

reef elm
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I wanna pull but I think hyacine is higher priority

rocky palm
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that plus rest of 3.2 and 3.3 and first half of 3.4 should still let me get phainon e2s1

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but kind of have to skip cipher now

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hyacine might be good for acheron at e0s1 but i really don't want to get her

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she's not very interesting to me

reef elm
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I’ve seen the memes of her burst and I think I’ll get

rocky palm
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wdym the memes?

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the comparison to the other game?

reef elm
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The symphony meme

rocky palm
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i must not know it

humble citrus
rocky palm
wicked gazelle
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wait

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did you win two 50/50s

humble citrus
rocky palm
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Acheron was not

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I'm down to 135 pulls, no pity, no guarantee

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Should be able to get to 450 or so by 3.4's halfway point

lilac spire
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rocky palm
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i don't really get it tbh

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i am pretty sure my sister had that dolphin poster in her room for 15 years or something though

reef elm
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That dolphin meme thing was popular when mualani came out I think

fiery geyser
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reef elm
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8mil…

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If mavuika gets powercrept I’d be quite mad

reef elm
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Power creeping an archon would be crazy

rocky palm
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I mean

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Look at how fast Acheron got powercrept

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She's still great but almost every dps that came after her was better

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And she's canonically one of if not the strongest character we've met

shrewd plinth
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This...Does not bode well...

fiery geyser
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All party members gain a 75% Cryo DMG Bonus.

shrewd plinth
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Problem is I have no real way to group the enemies, so Ganyu wouldn't be able to do all too much since she'd only be hitting like 4 or 5 of them at a time at most

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And there's 60 of them in the final stage

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Literally a Venti abyss

reef elm
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No kazoo?

shrewd plinth
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The only anemo characters I have even vaguely build are Lan Yan, Sucrose and Jean

fiery geyser
reef elm
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Are they beefy in the chamber

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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Already tried that, it didn't work...

fiery geyser
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Clorinde overload?

shrewd plinth
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The big issue is grouping, since they spawn on all four sides of the arena in groups of 5 or so
I don't think any kind of AoE is gonna make things eaiser

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It's literally a chamber designed to sell Venti

fiery geyser
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Oh….

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Oh god, so it’s like an IT floor

shrewd plinth
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Yep...

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Welp, just finished floor 12 for a total of 32 stars...

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I think this is the first Abyss in a while that I actively hate...

fiery geyser
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You saw the post from earlier?

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#1021789884144418886 message

shrewd plinth
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Yup...

rocky palm
fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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I think the worst part of this though is Floor 12's second side buff of 75% Cryo Elemental Skill damage benefits like, 2 characters in the game currently

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Those being Fremi and Citlali

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Since all the other Cryo DPS' use either their Burst or Normal/Charged Attacks for damage

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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It makes me think it's a buff aimed at Escoffier, which is weird since this Abyss will only be around for 1 more week after her release

fiery geyser
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bruh kokoscared

fiery geyser
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chamber 1 looks brutal af

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tulpa is ok ig, but a herald and the stupid fucking seahorse??!

shrewd plinth
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Yup...

fiery geyser
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At least nilou finally gets to party

fiery geyser
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I stg, the elemental shield on the wayobs make no sense sometimes

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finally done, thank god

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Really painful though

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Did y’all know that the Fontaine mech thing was added at the last minute?

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It wasn’t part of the layout before

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💀

shrewd plinth
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My guess is that they realised that the chamber designed to sell Escoffier didn't have any enemies with Pneumousia mechanics and just threw it in there to fix that.

fiery geyser
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Someone looked at this layout and thought “we could add one more obstacle in here, shouldn’t be a problem”

shrewd plinth
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Yep...

fiery geyser
fiery geyser
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I forgot that mechanic

shrewd plinth
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Exactly

fiery geyser
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That’d be a crazy reasoning, ngl

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Especially since it never felt that relevant unless your team had like 3 fontanians

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, but I wouldn't put it past them

fiery geyser
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I like how Bennett on the first side is a literal death button, lmao

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You’re toast if the tulpa or hydro mimics hit you in the circle

fiery geyser
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Charlotte actually came in clutch for a Eula clear on the second side

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seriously though, this abyss sucks

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Like they did advanced research on how to make the players suffer as much as possible

shrewd plinth
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Yuuuuuup

rocky palm
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I need a single cr roll to get to WTF tier

wicked gazelle
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Many such cases

rocky palm
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oooo

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If I replace my speed boots with something that is, in terms of luck, easier to get

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I can still get there

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Just need a pair of boots like this

humble citrus
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E4

rocky palm
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changes to the character themself doesn't change their rating

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unless it's an eidolon that gives a stat stick like acheron e1

wicked gazelle
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Are you really okay with sub 95cr?

rocky palm
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no

wicked gazelle
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I always iffy about going under 62cr

rocky palm
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honestly though yeah

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I'm fine with anything over 90% now

wicked gazelle
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I don't have any speed subs to make use of

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So I think my hyperspeed bronya is suffering

rocky palm
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wdym

wicked gazelle
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You can tell me the av calcs

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But i think if I got like +8speed the +30% from e2 would let me do bronya > acheron > acheron > bronya acheron

median garden
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Damn nobody here liked Butch Cassideez 😔

muted tundra
rocky palm
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Butch with a case of deez nuts

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gottem

rocky palm
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as long as you have acheron's speed post e2 Bronya buff > Bronya speed, this will work out properly

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the reason i was confused is cause hyperspeed implies you're making them as fast as possible

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for this you would just say -1 speed bronya

median garden
wicked gazelle
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And 134 is 2 actions per cycle

rocky palm
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161 is still two actions in the first cycle

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But it's 6 actions in the first 3 cycles or something

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134 is two actions in the first cycle, 4 actions in the first 3 cycles

wicked gazelle
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Interesting

rocky palm
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That you can calculate with AV

wicked gazelle
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Back to the mines for acheron then

rocky palm
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10000/161=62

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6*62 =372

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So that's 5 actions in the first 350 AV (first 3 cycles)

wicked gazelle
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Gotcha gotcha ty

rocky palm
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If I used Bronya with Acheron I would aim for 105 speed Acheron, 134 speed Bronya

wicked gazelle
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So I would really just need like 6ish speed right

rocky palm
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Post buff Acheron will be at 135/136

rocky palm
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I think 4 speed is enough

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Acheron base speed is 101 iirc

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You'd also want Bronya on Vonwacq so she can advance Acheron more at the beginning of battle

wicked gazelle
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I have bronya on keel

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Keel best set

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Adds cd

rocky palm
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40% AA >>>>>>> 10% cd

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If you have her on DDD you can squeeze out a whole nother turn in the first cycle

wicked gazelle
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10% cd is alot tho

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Only s3 ddd

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And that's on tribbie

rocky palm
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10% cd is nothing compared to the damage you could do with an extra turn

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Which also gets you extra debuffs

wicked gazelle
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But then I'd have to farm it

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Can't i just use luksha instead

rocky palm
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Lushaka is the best option for Acheron

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But Vonwacq is better for Bronya maximizing Acheron's turns

wicked gazelle
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AnjiNotes I need to farm for jq anyways

rocky palm
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Wind set yippiefly

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I put JQ on Lushaka personally, despite Vonwacq being the technically better option

toxic rain
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New genshin update goes hard

rocky palm
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Better hope Hoyo doesn't see that lol

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Apparently even if you remove the UID, they can look through accounts based on the moves that were performed?

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not 100% sure if that's true though

fiery geyser
toxic rain
rocky palm
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It's recording yourself playing with mods and uploading it

reef elm
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That Sonic one is so terrible

humble citrus
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this seal slammers ranked is easy (so far)

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haven't lost a single game (of the 3 i played)

crisp birch
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The only way to get caught is to record your uid

toxic rain
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I’ve seen a yt streamer that was using a mod that changes the portraits for zzz idk if he had his uid hidden though

toxic rain
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The thing I like about zzz is that it gives you the choice to only do two bosses instead of all three for the poly’s cuz my ass still don’t got a fire dps

crisp birch
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Lmao

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Deadly assault?

toxic rain
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Yeah

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I forgot the assault that’s deadly part

reef elm
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It’s pretty fun once you get a third team

crisp birch
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It’s pretty fun whenever anomaly isn’t the boss mechanic

rocky palm
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e4 Acheron, Phainon savings are in the bin

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e5 next ten pull

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do i just say fuck it and get e6 now

wicked gazelle
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nice!

rocky palm
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you have fallen for the bamboozle

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the e4 is real but the e5 was a lie

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I will get it on her next rerun

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65 pulls remaining

wicked gazelle
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the picture was too similar

rocky palm
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well

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they should be identical

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so that doesn't really help lol

wicked gazelle
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||that was the joke||

rocky palm
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now i am the bamboozled one

wicked gazelle
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eye for an eye and all that

toxic rain
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Then again hsr powercreep crazy

wicked gazelle
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her e2 is probably one of the best to get

rocky palm
crisp birch
rocky palm
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Do I want them bc I think she's cool af?

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yes

crisp birch
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Phainon aint releasing anytime soon

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Go for it king

rocky palm
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He literally is

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3.4 first half

crisp birch
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Nah

rocky palm
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fym nah

crisp birch
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I mean nah

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Drip marketing?

rocky palm
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gonna eat you

rocky palm
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may 1st or something

crisp birch
crisp birch
rocky palm
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we're getting animation leaks for him already

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he's definitely coming soon

crisp birch
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Screwllum zone

rocky palm
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screwllum has literally never had reputable animations leaks

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afaik anyways

crisp birch
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Screwllum isn’t real

reef elm
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He can’t hurt you

reef elm
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Oof gonna have to retry floor 11

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Not sure what team to run

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Those pyro slimes are annoying

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Maybe I’ll use mualani

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This is a hard abyss

reef elm
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That was a slog

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Abyss kinda not worth it

humble citrus
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now you can enjoy the unlimited power… of 8% more ult damage

humble citrus
rocky palm
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I still have him guaranteed

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Eidolons are more questionable but with some luck e1s1 is achievable

humble citrus
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hope it works out

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idk if i can win another 50/50 to get aglaea e1

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might’ve used my luck for the year SOLKEKW

rocky palm
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There's a good chance Sunday will be BiS for Phainon

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Unfortunately

plain bluff
rocky palm
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Which is why i mentioned it with regards to rolling for aglaea e1

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Might be better to invest in one than both

plain bluff
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ah

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yeah

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imo Sunday is a better investment

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especially if you can get S1

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but that's just my take

humble citrus
toxic rain
humble citrus
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@quartz scroll didn't realize it before but you can use premium resources to get specific resonance pieces. These are only available after level 10. fml the grind is real.

quartz scroll
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oh shit

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thanks

humble citrus
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no problem lmao, i'm building up my melania bc she's gonna synergize well with an upcoming character.

quartz scroll
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who might that be

humble citrus
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the phantom thief

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one of my very first 6 stars, plus I like ultimate playstyle.

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not really super viable atm, but she's getting buffs and a new synergistic character.

quartz scroll
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ooooooo

toxic rain
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WHERES TENANT

humble citrus
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right here

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the only woman who brings a gun to a fencing competition.

humble citrus
toxic rain
humble citrus
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and, you know, her 2nd outfit art is her stealing another women’s necklace while looking like they’re gonna hook up

humble citrus
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technically yes?

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She's never gotten caught stealing so i'd say so.

median garden
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Holy shit

fiery geyser
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ER?

crisp birch
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Energy Recharge

fiery geyser
reef elm
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Rizzlee Jumpscare

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humble citrus
wicked gazelle
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Left out the ending part where I find out the car was actually cardboard

rocky palm
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Ngl, lowkey regretting acheron e4

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I did it to get closer to e6 but e6 is really too strong for my tastes rn, and the tickets would've been really valuable for me in the near future

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I also feel like e2 is just a better universal stopping point for me

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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oh you mean trade acherons

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only if you give me uhhhh

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160 tickets StupidFuckingAnglDog

wicked gazelle
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I can give you 160 jades NagoNod

wicked gazelle
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That's all I have feesh

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And i still want sunday...

humble citrus
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but you have bronya e2

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so that should be fineMayHeh

wicked gazelle
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Where crit rate

humble citrus
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uhhh… with yukong

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1.5 anniversary for R1999 in a few days

rocky palm
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You must pull for Jiaoqiu StupidFuckingDmonDog

wicked gazelle
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😭 I'm trying

rocky palm
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dw you'll get JQ within the next 10 pulls

reef elm
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Yall making me want Acheron e4

wicked gazelle
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InoPlan you wouldn't lie to me now feesh

reef elm
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But cat lady

humble citrus
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cat lady is temporary. Acheron is eternal.

humble citrus
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reef elm
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“Is this some sort of twisted joke”

humble citrus
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Me and seri played some high-stakes seal slammers in HSR, and i made a tierlist;

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not ordered, but pink seal is broken af (extra turns) and red seal is a nuke

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using purple is already a game loss; dutone is too hard to use and taking 50% more is not worth it. Ghost is also really good but falls off if the spacing isn't good

rocky palm
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If you get the +3 -> +6 attack per willow-wisp buff early, you can get to 40 attack really quickly

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and then it's just game over for the opponent

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Mega seal buff is insanely dumb though

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My best team that I was using for a while was bubbles ghost red seal, then swapped to mega ghost red seal

plain bluff
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Ghost is so broken tbh

rocky palm
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the duotone seal is just a worse version of the red seal, idk why you would use it over the red

plain bluff
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I was rocking ghost red pink

rocky palm
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yeah that's what i use currently

humble citrus
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I used ghost-red-bubbles. shoutouts to extra actions

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we love stealing turns

rocky palm
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i really like bubbles with ghost bc you can get ghost's attack up really high, then use bubbles to ricochet it into other seals

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and it still gives bubbles an extra turn

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i do think you undervalued the gold seal, that one can get pretty crazy high attack if you do the geometry right

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very stage dependent though

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i think healer is pretty ass, in late game most seals can get one shot so it never really comes into play

humble citrus
humble citrus
rocky palm
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Just got a 0-cycle on FR with Acheron Bronya Tribbie JQ

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First time I didn't need both Tribbie and Robin yippiefly

lilac spire
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are they making fun of us old people?

fiery geyser
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muted tundra
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at this point I sort of feel like this whenever a game I play announces a new update and events to do along with it

shrewd plinth
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If that's the case, what's stopping you from dropping them or taking a break?
It sounds like you might be burnt out a bit, so it might be a good idea.

muted tundra
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it might also due to the fact I just went through my midterms

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might just need to chill for the weekend

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, sounds like a good idea.

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
wicked gazelle
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he did lie

crisp birch
shrewd plinth
crisp birch
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Deadly assault

wicked gazelle
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got a new orb

rocky palm
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You must've miscounted

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toxic rain
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Ngl the wuwa anniversary rewards suck

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The content is good and the 10 rerun banners is coool but we have no currency 💀

humble citrus
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real talk; i posted the anni gifts earlier but im surprised at how much they're giving away.

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20 regular summons, and 2 sets of 10 summons (1 for each banner). pity is only 60 so they're giving you half pity for free.

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and a free 6 star if your login days is 365+

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not to mention the pulls from the in-game events.

rocky palm
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Meanwhile, Nikke anniversary rewards: here's 120 special pulls!

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No guarantee though

reef elm
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You can get guarantee after 200 pulls

rocky palm
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Yeah, just costs a lot

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Rates are p decent though

toxic rain
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That’s why I pray all gachas hop on console

humble citrus
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plus R1999 isn't too resource intensive compared to other gachas.

toxic rain
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The combat gives me heavy anxiety like genshin

quartz scroll
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thats interesting

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so when is this?

humble citrus
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Wednesday

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humble citrus
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and i probably would if wasn't nearly 100 gigs on PC.

humble citrus
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curse this limited storage space...

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maybe I can save for a pc by the end of the year... MayThink

rocky palm
shrewd plinth
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I'm pretty sure they regularly clear out old events and unused content, so that's all for existing maps, characters, weapons, etc.

fiery geyser
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If you’re installing it fresh, it also takes all of that into account

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it’s not until you pass the title screen that you can “uninstall past resources”

rocky palm
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yeah, i had that happen with hsr when i was traveling and had to use my phone

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super annoying

fiery geyser
reef elm
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Kinda sick

crisp birch
reef elm
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Fox

fiery geyser
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Fox

crisp birch
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Fox

muted tundra
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I install Wuwa and immediately something happens

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, same...

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I re-installed it and played through some of the main story yesterday, then the news of the underwhelming anniversary hits...

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On the upside though, at least Zhezhi is getting a rerun, which is 90% of the reason I'm playing currently...Though I don't think I'll have enough pulls to get her...

muted tundra
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narrative changed so fast though

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from "they can't do wrong" to "they are all the same these gacha devs"

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I think I'll play a bit more and decide who I want after seeing some of the story

fiery geyser
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What happened?

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Low rewards?

shrewd plinth
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People were expecting things like a free 5 star and more free pulls
Not only did they get neither of those, they're also having 12 banners total over the course of the patch similar to HSR

fiery geyser
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At the same time?

shrewd plinth
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No, in two halves fortunately

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But that's still 6 banners per phase, 5 of which are reruns

fiery geyser
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Ooh

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dang tho

shrewd plinth
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Yup...

fiery geyser
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And iirc, the new unit is zani?

shrewd plinth
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One of them, yeah

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There's two new units in the anniversary patch I'm pretty sure

fiery geyser
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If I played wuwa, I’d definitely pull zani

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, she looks really cool!

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Though I'm gonna be prioritising Zhezhi, since I absolutely love her design

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
muted tundra
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at least the anniversery is good for us newcomers and o- and-off players

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also I might me a bit of a pedant but multiple banners don't tend to bother me that much

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when Star rail did 4 banners people said hoyo is greedy, when Genshin insisted on 2 banner people complain about the time between certain characters' reruns

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, multiple banners isn't bad in-of-itself, it's when a player wants more than one or two of the featured characters that it kinda becomes a problem. Though that's more of a failing of the Genshin/WuWa banner system than anything.

muted tundra
#

I get the complain about the rewards and some ideas about making the banners for the patch 100% guaranteed this time only but I don't think more reruns are always bad, it means characters are going to come back sooner most of the time

muted tundra
#

so you have to do some anti-player calls sooner than later

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PGR is much better with treating the players well but it had to do it because its a low budget project while being the underdog in its niche so it can't afford to be greedy

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Wuwa is supposed to be a top competitor so they seem to think they get away with some stuff they couldn't before

crisp birch
#

The Wuwa community is a joke don’t listen to them

#

They were up in arms about “censorship” because a camel toe got removed

quartz scroll
#

whats the best psychube for yenisei?

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@humble citrus ^ when you see this

humble citrus
quartz scroll
humble citrus
#

crit rate also applies to heals

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so it’s useful

quartz scroll
#

sorry if i'm like piling on these reverse questions on you aaaaaaaaaa

humble citrus
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nah don’t worry about it

quartz scroll
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i also have baby blue, when would she be useful?

humble citrus
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no one else here is asking them anyway SOLKEKW

quartz scroll
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they better play peak fiction

humble citrus
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she supports the team with debuffs that increase damage and make the team tankier

rocky palm
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Pretty gigantic Cipher buffs it seems

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||This is a partial mistranslation, it's a max of 48% attack but it's funny||

reef elm
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Every time bringer appears in deadly assault I forget how to fight him

median garden
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Bandit

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Bringer? I hardly know 'er

fiery geyser
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oblique current
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Oh there's a gacha thread here

shrewd plinth
#

Always has been

fiery geyser
crisp birch
oblique current
#

You fool I'm already too far gone

rocky palm
#

Reminder to save your SU planar tickets for the event later this week

rocky palm
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okay then

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i will delete my message and leave the server

plain bluff
rocky palm
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seri hates le fishe

plain bluff
rocky palm
rocky palm
wicked gazelle
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She's alive?!

humble citrus
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kinda of late imo

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still can't believe that's how HIMYM ended.

rocky palm
#

Acheron mains has broken containment 😭

rocky palm
shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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they're everywhere...

humble citrus
#

why is it so hard for acheron mains to accept that JQ is BiS

wicked gazelle
wicked gazelle
plain bluff
#

but I hear that JQ + Cipher is optimal

wicked gazelle
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I'm hearing that e1s1 is like almost required

quartz scroll
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...i still need more mineral team members

humble citrus
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though Jiu is a true limited character

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but based on leaks she’ll be getting a rerun in 2 or 3 patches from now

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(Fatutu is still a great tank regardless)

quartz scroll
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oooh yay

rocky palm
fiery geyser
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If you want to play her with Acheron, it’s only s1 now that’s really recommended

rocky palm
#

yeah

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it's the only lc that allows her to inflict multiple debuffs

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according to data she can inflict 6 debuffs per ultimate now

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if enemies take actions at least 4 times during JQ's ult, he generates more stacks

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Otherwise Cipher generates more

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JQ damage amplification is higher at e0s1, Cipher is higher at e0s0 (but I think this is going to get nerfed)

quartz scroll
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dk if anyone here plays neural cloud but i got her!!

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finally

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she can match w/ daiyan

reef elm
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How is there only two hsr events this patch

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I’m so used to zzz having an event nearly every week

rocky palm
#

Having only two events in the entire patch is normal for the anniversary

fiery geyser
reef elm
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Sounds like she can deal true damage

humble citrus
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why the hell is robin at e6s5

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idk it just seems like she'd overshadow the new units in the showcase

crisp birch
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Did they just lie in the thumbnail lmao?

humble citrus
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wait now the thumbnail says e0 s1?

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i swear i’m getting gaslight

crisp birch
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Lmao

rocky palm
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additional damage does 17k

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e6 robin would be doing like 200k

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I'm also going to mention that both Cipher e0s1 and Hyacine e0s1 are REQUIRED here

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Hyacine can only inflict debuffs with her s1, Cipher can only inflict multiple with her s1

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So you're basically equating e0s0 JQ to a 4 cost

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160 pulls vs 640 in the worst case

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Cipher is a great option for sustainless though

fiery geyser
#

who wants to play sustainless tho

reef elm
#

Kinda wish hsr had a deadly assault

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That way I could use remc on third team and then cipher jq on Acheron team

quartz scroll
#

lucky pull from earlier

humble citrus
#

screenshotted this before the pc client updated

rocky palm
#

must've done the wrong thumbnail for a while then

rocky palm
#

the thighs hakai

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phainon funds are chronically in danger

plain bluff
rocky palm
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no

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if i roll for anyone, it will be cipher

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but i have to save for phainon or even e1 won't happen lol

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e6 acheron will happen in a year or so

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every anni i will get another 2 eidolons

plain bluff
#

what if Acheron 2 comes out

rocky palm
#

ehrm

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hysilens is dot

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so i don't care StupidFuckingAnglDog

plain bluff
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Hysilens is ||dead||

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so I don't care StupidFuckingAnglDog

rocky palm
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not for long StupidFuckingDmonDog

plain bluff
rocky palm
#

i assume, or it would be difficult to make her playable StupidFuckingBaby

humble citrus
rocky palm
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hoyo would never turn down free money

humble citrus
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then why did hi3 himeko die, huh

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they lost out on a lot of money smh smh

rocky palm
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so they could put her in star rail, obviously

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and make MORE money

crisp birch
#

You cannot be THAT weak

reef elm
#

thighs

crisp birch
#

Dawg

#

They’re not that big

reef elm
#

thighs

crisp birch
#

The Bible app is free

crisp birch
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Me or fish

rocky palm
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It's about the exposure

crisp birch
#

You are the reason Sharia Law exists

reef elm
#

Also

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crisp birch
reef elm
#

Oh that’s what it’s called

crisp birch
#

Yeah

humble citrus
west meteorBOT
humble citrus
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👀

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dot making a comeback??

rocky palm
#

||still a chance that she isn't, but unlikely imo||

humble citrus
#

I'm aware based on the implications in DU

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but whether it'll be meta at all is up for debate

wicked gazelle
#

I gave up feesh

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I'm saving for cipher

humble citrus
rocky palm
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i'm regretting JQ e1 rn

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Cipher is looking like a better option for AS and MoC according to people

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this is assuming she doesn't get nerfed though

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if she gets buffed then she's hands down better

wicked gazelle
#

Fool you were

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To think a male character would ever be bis

humble citrus
#

so JQ is the PF option then

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And cipher for everything else

reef elm
crisp birch
rocky palm
#

Apparently the HoS showcase might be pretty biased towards Cipher

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Haven't watched the full thing but that's what some comments are saying

rocky palm
# fiery geyser How so

Hyacine is sustain, her damage increases Cipher's recorded damage (thus making Cipher stronger)
Hoolay smacking everyone lets Cipher get ult faster, thus increasing her damage more than the average scenario
Hyacine with e0s1 AND Cipher e0s1 is kind of unrealistic considering that it's 4 cost in a single patch

main points I've seen. Feels like some of it might be cope, but I do think Hoolay as the boss is p damn questionable

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Ik he's the MoC boss but for showcase purposes I wouldn't have recommended it

fiery geyser
#

I can’t stress how much I still dislike LC design in HSR

rocky palm
#

Yeah, they're getting even worse about it now

#

Aglaea's wasn't a necessity at all, but Cipher and Hyacine's are pretty necessary for them to function well it seems

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Hyacine in particular needs her lc to work ideally with Castorice/Acheron

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Cipher needs her s1 to work with Acheron, and for damage I think?

fiery geyser
#

Otherwise it’s still her BiS, but not as important

fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

also

#

something weird about the showcase

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First image is w/JQ, second is w/Cipher

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Acheron ult damage

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With both of them at e0s1, JQ's amplification should be much better

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He has 35% vuln, 15% ult vuln, and then 24% vuln on his lc

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Cipher has 40% vuln and 24% def shred

fiery geyser
#

Maybe it’s a crit difference

rocky palm
#

In total that's 74% vuln vs 40% vuln and 24% def shred

rocky palm
fiery geyser
#

Oh

rocky palm
#

24% def shred is an increase from .47 to .55

#

so in sum total there's no way that the ult with JQ should've done less damage as far as I can tell

#

But it did

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Unless I'm missing a buff in one of the characters kits

fiery geyser
#

Who are the other team members?

#

sorry for the questions

rocky palm
#

I checked on Fribbels and yeah there's just no way

fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

Best scores for my team in Fribbels, an 11k difference

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and in HoS showcase Cipher beat JQ by 9k

#

So there's an unexplained 20k difference here

humble citrus
#

(i just wanted an excuse to post it)

rocky palm
#

it definitely might

#

i do expect them to nerf cipher's vulnerability though

#

alright yeah there's definitely something weird going on

#

with two targets Cipher team is doing 727 ult, JQ is doing 680

#

I feel like the Cipher team may have an e1 Robin

#

and the JQ team does not

#

wait

#

does hoolay's wolfpack thing make him take more damage

#

that would explain this

fiery geyser
#

but I think it applies after any animation and not during them

rocky palm
#

i have no idea then

#

i'm kind of suspicious still but it might also just be nothing

#

idk how on earth acheron ult with cipher could outdamage the JQ version by 45k though

rocky palm
#

I want to get her so badly...

wicked gazelle
#

me too..

reef elm
#

Same

fiery geyser
toxic rain
#

What did I say lmao

#

They changed their va’s🤣

humble citrus
#

I don't really care for koleda but rina and grace seem... flat

rocky palm
#

rina is awful imo (compared to the old rina)

#

i think grace is decent except for the ult lines are noticeably worse

#

koleda sounds better i think

#

less annoying

#

more like an adult and less like a 12 year old

reef elm
#

Oh cool

humble citrus
#

I disliked listening to that voice but it made her more of a unique character.

rocky palm
#

true

humble citrus
#

at this point just let me pick va's...

rocky palm
#

Rina lost all of her passive aggressive/mocking style i think

#

Kinda of nukes her character

humble citrus
#

yeah that's what I liked about it

#

she's clearly messed up in some way and her voiced portrayed it well

rocky palm
#

new one sounds flat and has really strange inflection

#

the ult voicelines in particular sound so weird

#

said this in another server but almost sounds like a rush job

humble citrus
#

I mean, I'd take your word at it. I doubt HYV wants missing voice lines in another one of their games

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shrewd plinth
#

Holy shit

#

Guess it's time for our bi-yearly mondstadt update

stark salmon
#

well i lost my 50/50

crisp birch
#

Zanidrina?

stark salmon
#

yes

fiery geyser
#

Zani

quartz scroll
#

oh thanks

#

was needing a supporter

shrewd plinth
toxic rain
reef elm
#

Maybe we get those subs back

#

From the dub team

rocky palm
#

Apparently two of the biggest HSR leakers just quit

#

Luna and Uncle Green Milk Tea (stupid name but they were correct a lot)

humble citrus
#

what happened?

#

I saw some of the supposed buffs to old characters but that's it

rocky palm
#

Basically just said they were sick of toxicity

#

Lots of people are dumb and will click on their very obviously marked story leaks, then get angry that they were spoiled on the story apparently

humble citrus
#

you can't be serious

rocky palm
#

I feel like they might come back

#

But for now yeah it's legit

humble citrus
#

why must hyv fans be like this

#

If they do comeback i hope they just not leak story elements.

rocky palm
#

it's especially unfortunate cause luna was an actual insider

#

like a hoyo employee or something

humble citrus
#

@rocky palm can you rate this for rope for aglaea

rocky palm
#

aglaea speed breakpoints are really weird

#

do you have her lc?

humble citrus
rocky palm
#

this rope is pretty mid then

#

if you had her lc you could go for 2x sunday speed + 1

#

which lets you act twice before sunday advances you again

#

you can't get to 2x + 1 without her lc, so it's better for you to go for "base speed" aglaea

#

which is basically get some speed but mostly focus on cr/cd/atk%

humble citrus
#

Was planning on farming the planar bonus but i'll farm for THerta instead.

#

limited characters and lc's being a bottleneck sucks, but I'm not too happy with how THerta+jade have been doing.

toxic rain
#

That shit funny

wicked gazelle
#

Got a giga cracked rope from the event and it has rolled 3x into attack 3 times Sadji

rocky palm
#

honestly might reroll this one

wicked gazelle
#

BridgetPray don't today rerolls are cursed

rocky palm
wicked gazelle
#

I'm not seeing a jq there feesh

rocky palm
#

ehrm

rocky palm
#

i really don't know what to do about her

wicked gazelle
#

She stole your jq

rocky palm
#

i want her really badly

#

but i just invested in JQ a lot

#

I could run them together in sustainless

wicked gazelle
#

Shed be worse than double harmony no?

rocky palm
#

debateably

#

acheron would be getting ult super quickly

wicked gazelle
#

More ults = more damage
But bigger number = bigger damage

fiery geyser
#

Also that means more harmonies for the other side

rocky palm
#

I also get the benefit of using her with Aglaea if I want

#

HOWEVER

#

There are large issues

#
  1. I do not have many funds right now. I could theoretically break my wallet (bad) but it would be stupid
  2. After Phainon I still have to worry about his BiS harmony, Cerydra. She's either releasing end of 3.5 or start of 3.6
  3. Beta isn't over yet and she might get hella nerfed
#

Anyways though, Acheron farming is officially over forever now

reef elm
#

Only took a year

wicked gazelle
#

Smh no 300 cd back to the mines

humble citrus
#

got her in 20 pulls after i lost the 50/50 to grace

reef elm
median garden
humble citrus
#

I'm only 30 away from her engine too, just need to get 15 more pulls

#

GRACE WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME

#

BOTH THE AGENT AND HER ENGINE WHY

rocky palm
wicked gazelle
#

Yeah but grace is worth it

humble citrus
#

i know she is but i like vivian more

#

at least her engine is the 2nd BiS for miyabi

rocky palm
#

ehrm

#

why is the funny rat punching le fishe

humble citrus
#

fish why do you curse the ZZZ players here

rocky palm
#

i curse everyone with my presence

humble citrus
wicked gazelle
rocky palm
#

ehrm

west meteorBOT
reef elm
#

Cat

rocky palm
#

everyone hates le fishe

humble citrus
#

I hear it's healthy for the skin

rocky palm
humble citrus
#

You better get M6 miyabi when she comes back

#

put the power to good use

rocky palm
#

ehrm

#

no

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
#

in that case

#

le zyx is ebic

#

banning everyone else StupidFuckingAnglDog

wicked gazelle
#

wait this is a good question

#

does le feesh refer to fish(plural) or singular

#

like geese or meese

reef elm
#

Feeshe lore

oblique current
#

Bros I'm so cooked, what on earth did I return to

humble citrus
#

hp meta, lmao

#

have mydei/castorice or suffer

wicked gazelle
#

hows blade doing ?

rocky palm
oblique current
#

Me Acheron team is on its last legs too, still holding on somehow

wicked gazelle
#

cause shes the goat

oblique current
#

Welt the goat fr too

oblique current
rocky palm
#

she'll get buffs

#

pretty sizeable ones if SW's are anything to go by

crisp birch
#

What did sw get

crisp birch
#

Bruh

fiery geyser
#

||iirc though, the element implant is still based on your team’s elements so it doesn’t apply everything||

rocky palm
#

and the def shred on skill is not real, bad translation

#

basically it's elemental implant and res down on all enemies

crisp birch
#

Isn’t the Q the ult?

#

Which already has def shred

fiery geyser
#

Yeah

crisp birch
#

Yeah that already exists lmao

#

Seems they just made it aoe

#

Yeah so all the bold italicized stuff is new

fiery geyser
crisp birch
#

Yup

#

Plus weakness implant on ult and more res shred

#

Wonder if it stacks with the skill

rocky palm
crisp birch
#

Ah

rocky palm
#

I believe they're referring to skill vs basic with E v Q

#

unless those are the names of her moves

#

E and Q are the hotkeys for skill and basic on keyboard

crisp birch
#

Ik

#

Q is ult tho is it not?

rocky palm
#

Her ult is called "user banned"

#

So I don't believe so

#

or are you talking about hotkeys again

#

ults are on the number keys

crisp birch
#

Right

#

Getting it confused with genshin

#

Also

#

The post says user banned

rocky palm
#

Yeah

#

The un-italicized part is her ult

#

so her ult is now aoe

#

and her skill is also aoe (the italicized part)

#

and also possibly not random anymore