#Gacha hell

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humble citrus
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@rocky palm Is the yaoi scene between ||phainon and mydei in the baths|| really necessary for the plot

rocky palm
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I got this awesome screenshot at least

shrewd plinth
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hamby

humble citrus
reef elm
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MY GANYU IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FORthis imaginarium theatre lol

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so sad i dont have shenhe

humble citrus
rocky palm
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They also voice the basin lol

reef elm
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oh cool

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lol

fiery geyser
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Tribbie is the TheRat??

rocky palm
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Vikala is mouse not RatConfused

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(I think)

fiery geyser
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same thing StupidFuckingDmonDog

rocky palm
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Ehrm

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Racism

fiery geyser
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🐁

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🐀

reef elm
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this is the hardest theatre in a while for me

fiery geyser
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dang, i let the festival story slip by and didn’t finish it

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
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I stopped right when they figured out the real culprits

rocky palm
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holy shit my youtube career is taking off i made 5/10ths of a cent today!!!

crisp birch
shrewd plinth
wicked gazelle
toxic rain
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You got it king

reef elm
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Think I made the mistake of choosing t the superconduct upgrades early in the theatre Eula doesn’t need the upgrades to beat the bosses but everyone else does

west meteorBOT
wicked gazelle
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Please let it make it to live it would be so funny

reef elm
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Trusts a lot of ultr

rocky palm
muted tundra
wicked gazelle
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Its AS reset day

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@rocky palm waiting for you to show your sick clear

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(Lineup looks like awful for me)

rocky palm
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It's a pretty boring one imo

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I'll record later though

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Aglaea destroys Aven

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I got 7666 overall

wicked gazelle
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And acheron for music beasts I assume

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And fish no judgment, but are you just cracked at pulling or do you spend money for units you want

rocky palm
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I'll fully admit that I've spent money, I keep it low though

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I also get extremely lucky with pulls though

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I got e2 Acheron in like 60 pulls total or something insane

wicked gazelle
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I've spend money too dw

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In 60?!

rocky palm
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Yeah, I'll share it later

wicked gazelle
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I got mine in 250 iirc

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Which was still low

rocky palm
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@wicked gazelle

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I misremembered bc htere was a small issue with the data reading my first 5* (Sparkle) as an Acheron, and I got her at apparently 2 pity lol

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still, 140 pulls for e2 is v good

toxic rain
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I started a new account on zzz my first 5 star character from standard was soldier 11 summoned again and got another soldier 11 from standard 💀

rocky palm
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7683 was my top score

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Nana side has a bit too much toughness imo

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It makes it very difficult to do it quickly

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Or if they just didn't take imaginary break effect

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Them getting delayed is more disadvantageous than anything, since it makes it so you can't break them again very quickly

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I don't recall if Rappa is able to damage the toughness bar of this boss

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But if she can then it's a pretty big shilling boss for her

rocky palm
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Hurting the only composition she's still good in PensiveAnji

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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someone disliked my MoC clear video StupidFuckingCryingDog

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this will cause irreparable damage to my psyche StupidFuckingCryingDog

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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i knew it was you

fiery geyser
fiery geyser
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Anybody going for Wrio or furi?

shrewd plinth
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I'm tempted to go for Wrio, but I don't want to use my guarantee on a character I don't really need

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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While I would still have my CR proc for Varesa, I also want to get Emilie and Skirk so I'd rather use as few pulls as possible right now

fiery geyser
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not to mention, it won’t be long until varesa is in the game

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and if they’re kind enough, maybe iansan will be on the banner also

shrewd plinth
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Yup

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
reef elm
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I want the four stars on this banner so I’ll do like 40 pulls

reef elm
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Oh doesn’t Genshin update today

reef elm
rocky palm
fiery geyser
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I upgraded rice lee StupidFuckingAnglDog StupidFuckingAnglDog

rocky palm
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so genshin has rice lee

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and hsr has rice

fiery geyser
crisp birch
humble citrus
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@rocky palm hop on hades 2

rocky palm
fiery geyser
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full uptime and you literally can’t die as long as you chain uppercuts

rocky palm
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It's so hard to test damage now in HSR StupidFuckingCryingDog

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Tribbie makes me kill the training room mobs too well

shrewd plinth
stark salmon
shrewd plinth
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Damn, nice!

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I did it last week, though it ended up taking me 100 turns in total since I wasted a bunch on the second section

stark salmon
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ye second section is disgustingNoelSad

muted tundra
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never kill yourself!

muted tundra
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if you discount the early loss to Miyabi I won 6 separate 50/50s in the past months

fiery geyser
humble citrus
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was ready to spend the 40 i had to reach pity, it showed up early so i got 10 extra pulls.

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maybe now evelyn can do the same damage my miyabi does SinClueless

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Surely my 10 pulls are enough for burnice SinClueless

fiery geyser
humble citrus
mortal osprey
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anyone know the stats on m0w1 qingyi vs ceasar for zy comps? my assumption is that the 240%~ stun damage from qy is going to be much better than 1k atk from ceasar

crisp birch
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And it’s 280 (or 230 depending on the boss), you do two of Qingyi’s charge attacks to stack it

rocky palm
toxic rain
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Miyabi a fucking atom bomb

reef elm
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My Evelyn does a lot more than miyabi

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Probably cause lighter

toxic rain
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Pairing miyabi with Astra is very crazy

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But she’s helped my Ellen Joe a great amount

reef elm
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I need 2 astras

toxic rain
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Lucy

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💀

humble citrus
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chain attacks

fiery geyser
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big?

humble citrus
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yeah they do big numbers

fiery geyser
reef elm
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BIG

humble citrus
fiery geyser
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Most things, yeah

humble citrus
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those are the classics to me

fiery geyser
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the staples StupidFuckingAnglDog

fiery geyser
lilac spire
reef elm
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Ether anomaly

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Wonder if she’ll be like grace and support

toxic rain
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Probably would be like burnice

rocky palm
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there better be a part 2 tomorrow

lilac spire
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some people like writing tragedies

reef elm
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I like to head on on that in the next page she turns around and sees belle

crisp birch
lilac spire
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its romantic

rocky palm
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Interesting question for y'all

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Do you like having the same buff options on both sides, like Pure Fiction, or having unique buff options on each side, like AS?

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Obviously the benefit of the first is that you have more generality and can use a team on either side, while the latter case allows you to potentially use a wider variety of teams

fiery geyser
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Probably the first

reef elm
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Uh

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I think second

reef elm
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Vill_5

fiery geyser
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Is that the hi3 character?

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
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Barbara switched games StupidFuckingCryingDog

shrewd plinth
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Bubblegum Barbara CB_nod

humble citrus
reef elm
static hearth
reef elm
west meteorBOT
fiery geyser
crisp birch
fiery geyser
robust inlet
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when the zesident is zevil

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honestly what does resident evil even mean

humble citrus
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"evil lurks in plain sight" type of moral i'd assume

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the evil was the resident of the mansion in RE1? maybe? who knows

fiery geyser
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and it’s filled with “evil” so…

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It’s called biohazard in Japan but they couldn’t call it that here so they decided on RE

reef elm
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Should I go for Zhu yuan e1 or wengine

toxic rain
crisp birch
toxic rain
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I hear people say you need m1 cuz of her bullets or something

crisp birch
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You really don’t

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People are just bad at resource management lmao

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I’ve been using her since she dropped at m0 and only a few times have I ever struggled with my bullets

reef elm
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So you’re saying I should go for m1

crisp birch
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Sure man go for it

reef elm
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I’m definitely gonna think about it more as the patch progresses

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Pulchra might be the deciding factor

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Not sure if I want her cons or not

rocky palm
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Didn't she get mega nerfed

shrewd plinth
crisp birch
toxic rain
toxic rain
shrewd plinth
rocky palm
muted tundra
crisp birch
wicked gazelle
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Buff!

reef elm
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I thought it was feixao from the notification

humble citrus
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HSR players; did you see the leaks regarding ||summoning changes, and potentially choosing the pools for our 50/50 losses?||

wicked gazelle
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||we'll need to see the choices but I'm not getting my hopes up||

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||its gonna be standard + like some RM or other power crept units||

rocky palm
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But regardless, huge if true

wicked gazelle
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||best case is the pool is of units that are supported by the current banner, but thats not gonna happen||

rocky palm
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What the last leaks said was that ||they're making banners for each planet. You're supposedly able to select characters from a pool of limited characters for each banner. The characters you select from the larger pool become your 50/50 loss pool||

rocky palm
# wicked gazelle

That one leaker who hates Sunday was saying that she got nerfed before this came out lol

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Assuming she doesn't get net nerfed overall they really need to ban his leaks forevermore

wicked gazelle
wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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She does a lot of damage

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They could potentially nerf that to balance out her increased ult uptime or something

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I do hope they completely scrap Pollux's kit

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That boss is fucking awfully designed lol

wicked gazelle
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Does she?

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It seems like she needs so much investment

rocky palm
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I've seen some really high numbers, but that has also been on Pollux who is made for her and only her rn

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So might not translate well to other bosses

wicked gazelle
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Yeah pollux like triples her damage output

rocky palm
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I will say that people were also dooming Acheron during beta and we all saw how that went

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We get official v3 in just a couple days though so we'll know soon

humble citrus
rocky palm
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Anaxa reportedly got 0 changes which I think is crazy

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
humble citrus
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if we can use ||the new currency on those banners|| then i'm all for it

rocky palm
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It might also not be tickets that are used on these banners

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Yeah

humble citrus
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Also i don't even play KH but when i see the acronym 'DDD' i think of dream drop distance

wicked gazelle
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💀 what an almost great game

humble citrus
wicked gazelle
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Ballonga

humble citrus
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it's just a funny acronym

wicked gazelle
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KH ddd

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KH 3d

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Saythatagain.png

rocky palm
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Wonder when DDD will come back again

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I'm predicting 8 months

wicked gazelle
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I only have s3

rocky palm
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Me laughing at you

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Tribbie with DDD is so crazy

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She uses it even better than Sparkle

wicked gazelle
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P&F on sparkle

plain bluff
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a relic of the past(& future)

reef elm
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Pale flame

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I need to do hsr story before new zzz patch drops or else it will take weeks to do

crisp birch
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Ice attack 💀

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Actual marketing suicide dawg

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Ain’t nobody want another Ice attack after Ellen and Miyabi

rocky palm
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That doesn't even seem to fit his design aesthetically

plain bluff
crisp birch
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And he’s a vampire

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Cold blooded ig

crisp birch
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But also no bc lighter is insane

plain bluff
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yep

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I'm not saying that male characters are bad

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or anything

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it's just that they end up getting this treatment fairly often

crisp birch
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HEY

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WHOEVER POSTED THET SAD VALENTINES DAY MIYABI ART

west meteorBOT
# crisp birch https://x.com/legocup/status/1898114807653712261?s=46&t=sHEsDu2rGBTD_OsLLrkvPA

part2, turns out it was only in her head... ˢᵒ ᶠᵃʳ
#zzzfanart #ZZZ #ZenlessZoneZero

I didn't expect this many comments on the last one, I really appreciate it all! and I wasn't planning to do part 2 either, but your comments are just too funny, so here you go.

crisp birch
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FACK YOU

rocky palm
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PART TWO YEAH BABY

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Balance is restored MayPray

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was still awful that they did the part 1 though, especially if they weren't planning to release a part 2 to begin with

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Needlessly cruel to the silly fox

wicked gazelle
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no i think its funny

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i didnt win my 50/50

crisp birch
rocky palm
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I will not voice the ships that I like StupidFuckingAnglDog

reef elm
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Yay

rocky palm
rocky palm
crisp birch
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I know what you are

rocky palm
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nuh uh bc i ship evelyn and astra

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therefore it is you who is cap

crisp birch
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Oh

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Basic smh

rocky palm
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i feel like evelyn x self insert is just as if not more basic

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therefore le duck has created a no-win situation for le fishe and i am sad about it StupidFuckingCryingDog

crisp birch
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Yeah but at least self insert shows off freakiness

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Astra x Evelyn is basically the status quo

fiery geyser
lilac spire
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🙂

toxic rain
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As far as im concerned fuck Ellen and miyabi Hugo main now

rocky palm
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ngl Code Geass is one of the few anime where I liked the dub more than the sub

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it fits thematically and having ben 10 as suzaku was just too funny 😭

toxic rain
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True that dub is a banger but I’m just a huge jun Fukuyama simp

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Cuz of his performance as lelouch

rocky palm
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Fair

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We can all agree that Code Ment is the true best dub though

toxic rain
rocky palm
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the whole thing is on youtube somewhere

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personally i think this one clears sao abridged

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Here's episode 1, enjoy the rabbit hole

toxic rain
crisp birch
crisp birch
shrewd plinth
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So, update on my Arlecchino artifacts
I still don't have a good on-set ATK% Sands, but I got this goblet for Navia which is cool

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I'm truly suffering from success

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Here's hoping that my Varesa artifact farming goes a little better

shrewd plinth
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yeh

muted tundra
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how it feels to pull a character vs how it feels when I realize how much I have to grind to fully build them up

shrewd plinth
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Yeah...

muted tundra
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I've been playing Genshin with very little breaks and I'm still not done with Raiden, let alone other limited characters

shrewd plinth
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When it comes to artifacts, I tend to just leave my characters at 'good enough'
For example, my Clorinde's circlet is actual trash but because she can reasonably clear Abyss, it's not that big of a problem

mortal osprey
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They keep doing this

mortal osprey
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millions massacred in a paper world with just burnice as flesh

lilac spire
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just turn into scissors

fiery geyser
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when you’re ready to build them but it’s not the right day for talent books

reef elm
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I hate Genshin for that

fiery geyser
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Yeah, coming from hsr, it feels a little dated

reef elm
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Glad starglitter path gives unlimited access from domains

humble citrus
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no guinafen 😔

rocky palm
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how did everyone like this AS iteration?

plain bluff
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wasn't very fun

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but it isn't exceptionally bad or anything

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how do you feel?

rocky palm
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AS Aven is a really cool boss

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But the buff this time just sucks lol

plain bluff
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yeah

rocky palm
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Nana boss is also the worst AS boss imo

plain bluff
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it's just uninteresting

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either you brute force it

rocky palm
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It basically has anti-synergy with itself by imaginary break effect

plain bluff
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or you play its minigame

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which is a complete chore

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even if you have an erudition unit

rocky palm
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I lowkey wish the mobs didn't get weakness broken and just instantly reset when you max their stacks

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That would let you get the buffs more frequently too

plain bluff
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yeah

rocky palm
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I'm going to make a full AS boss tierlist now

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Not going to do a writeup on why I think they're good cause there are a lot of reasons, but writeup for why Kafka and Nananas are bad

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Kafka - Comes with 4 elites in total. These things are tanky and they suck up a lot of time dealing with them. They provide comparatively little benefit to what it takes to kill them. Boring and uninteresting fight + caters specifically to Feixiao who can target the elites one by one and nuke them

Nananas - Erudition + frequent AoE check. Boss works against itself by "removing" its mechanic from play once once of them is broken, due to the imaginary break effect delaying them for a very long time. You either have to wait for it to reset, or have specific teams that can spam AoE attacks once all the enemies are broken.

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Phantylia at least gives you buffs but it's not a very interesting fight, just target and kill, and Argenti was much the same as far as I recall. I don't really like any of his boss iterations to date tbh

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Cocolia - Can target the adds, or outright ignore them and focus Cocolia only. AB is straightforward but I enjoyed fighting it

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Sunday is really well designed and imo is a better version of Nanana boss, Skaracabuz is erudition shilling but has really fun mechanics involving managing the continuous spawn and destruction of the adds to break the boss, and Aven has a dice game that's actually fun (math!!!)

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I did end up doing the write up SinClueless

plain bluff
shrewd plinth
muted tundra
muted tundra
muted tundra
muted tundra
muted tundra
lilac spire
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"My back... Running around all day... This new job is killing me..."
"You won't find another Cat Thiren as serious as me anywhere else in New Eridu."
"Might as well get some massage therapy done... Of course, the bill shall go on the new employer's tab."

—Welcome to New Eridu!—
PS5™/iOS/Android/PC | Version 1.5 "Astra-nomical Moment" of Zenless...

▶ Play video
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how you guys beating the allegations

reef elm
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New character?

lilac spire
wicked gazelle
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what did he mean by this

lilac spire
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just a common fox main thought

rocky palm
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i mean

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wow a fox girl i would never

lilac spire
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i guess i dont know you as well as i thought, i expected the fish binky after mommy

rocky palm
fiery geyser
humble citrus
lilac spire
crisp birch
crisp birch
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Not a fox

rocky palm
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wack

rocky palm
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ik miyabi is a fox, i just figured pulchra was one as well

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her design doesn't scream "cat" to me as much as "fox"

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ig Burnice does call her a kitty though

shrewd plinth
humble citrus
wicked gazelle
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I do not care for hyacine

rocky palm
wicked gazelle
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She's a yapper

humble citrus
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im interested in nearly everything around the character, not hyacine herself

rocky palm
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@wicked gazelle I see now why Bronya e2 is good

wicked gazelle
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He's seeing the light

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She really needs Sunday s1 to be competitive

muted tundra
toxic rain
wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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i'm using it on sunday/aglaea/bronya rn, bronya advances sunday the first time in a fight and from then on sunday is able to go before bronya

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and it lets me have higher cd on him

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not really important since sunday's cd buff is the lowest of all 3 of the characters with it but it's fun

wicked gazelle
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NagoNod yep this is pretty much how I was using it too with acheron and sparkle.

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I think it's good, but i wish it lasted 1 more turn

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Because then it'd be cracked

rocky palm
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Would it?

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I feel like there's little reason to not just use it on the same character every time

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At least in the Bronya Sunday comp

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In other news though, I can now consistently get Nikador to 5% before he takes his first action

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very pogfish

wicked gazelle
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More sp efficient is all

rocky palm
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it would fuck up rotations is the issue

wicked gazelle
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That's what her passive is for :MayPopcorn this one buff fixes all

wicked gazelle
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See I'm a visionary

fiery geyser
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I used the demon dog because it’s a StupidFuckingDmonDog passive

wicked gazelle
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(Its so fucking ass)

fiery geyser
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Yeah…

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when your character gets punished for using a move

reef elm
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I need to like go into a training stage with Zhu yuan team

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I barely got two stars on her deadly assault

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And I think I could get three if I played the team better

fiery geyser
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or are there only 3 or something

reef elm
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There’s only three

fiery geyser
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shiyu defense?

reef elm
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I think I’m going to use that team for farming boss mats for a while as that’s the only content that will be hard enough

rocky palm
fiery geyser
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stupid fucking awesome game design

reef elm
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Wats a good lv for the tribbie

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Poised to bloom looks good for herta

rocky palm
reef elm
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Light come

humble citrus
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if you don’t have that then something to help with energy regen

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like memories of the past

fiery geyser
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meshing cogs is also amazing for her uptime, but it has the lowest stats

rocky palm
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She already doesn't really have uptime issues unless you're running single target that's infrequent

rocky palm
# reef elm Light come

Her signature greatly increases her damage, DDD greatly increases her utility. Nothing else is especially notable imo, the others mentioned energy regen options but I still stand by saying that I have not experienced any ult uptime issues with her

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I can get a 1-turn ult in many situations

reef elm
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I see

rocky palm
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These v3 changes are wack af

wicked gazelle
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full kit up?

rocky palm
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Tldr

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Castorice has better rotation and lowered damage, likely overall damage increase. All healing now gains her ult

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Anaxa is the same but slightly lower damage for some insane reason

wicked gazelle
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yeah i just read

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the damage nerf is heavy though no?

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10% across the board

rocky palm
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it didn't change

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10% is also not very much in the grand scheme of things

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overall, extremely boring v3

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this is like a v2 or v4 in terms of how much actually changed

toxic rain
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So I have a spare lycoan engine should I overclock it or use it for another potential stun agent?

wicked gazelle
wicked gazelle
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did we know dragon has 165 base speed?

rocky palm
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But the dragon no longer gets the 50% speed buff

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so net speed nerf

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by around 45 speed in fact

wicked gazelle
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but that was only when above 50% hp right?

rocky palm
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yep

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if you look at it like that then it's still ~23 speed nerf, assuming the dragon is above 50% half the time

wicked gazelle
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AnjiNotes ill have to look at rotations again but wasnt e0 dragon > skill skill basic > AA or turn again > skil skill

crisp birch
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If you find no use for it later and/or plan to pull for stun engines then you can feed it

reef elm
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Hoolay?

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Oh no

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I’m not gonna be able to clear this one

rocky palm
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i still don't really know anything about castorice's actual gameplay tbh

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she just really doesn't intrigue me, which is surprising

rocky palm
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i feel like i paid more attention to even jade's beta and junk

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no insult to jade Boothill_Shocked

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400% speed on Hoolay is unhinged though lmao

wicked gazelle
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sorry

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400

rocky palm
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buffed from a 60% increase to a 400% increase, yes

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this is also the hoolay that selects one character and duels them until one of you dies

wicked gazelle
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aventurine rerun at that time NagoNod

rocky palm
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so basically hoolay is going to select a character, and then you will wave goodbye to your character

rocky palm
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but yes, i'm laughing at everyone who skipped aven again to get lingsha

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not that lingsha is bad but as the only other limited sustain we've recently had, aven is the only one who can truly negate everything hoolay does

wicked gazelle
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pray that he targets blade or yunli

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or mydei ig

rocky palm
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you might be able to choose the character he duels?

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i'm not 100% sure on that

reef elm
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Charge on, charge on, o' brave soldier.
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rocky palm
lilac spire
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how do they go oily massage to this

rocky palm
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You have Fu and Gallagher as sustains then?

reef elm
reef elm
crisp birch
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What the fuck hoyo

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I love Anby sm man peak character tbh

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Wait no I have a meme for this

reef elm
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Those guys deserve as many deaths as Abby burgers

lilac spire
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man i want arbys now

crisp birch
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Had to fucking Frankenstein this together

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Bc google sucks

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But yeah that’s how I feel rn

reef elm
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😭

crisp birch
rocky palm
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Info about Hoolay change: in the duel state, you always take action immediately after Hoolay

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So he doesn't get infinite turns or anything, it just makes it so the duel costs very little AV

fiery geyser
plain bluff
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Incorrect

rocky palm
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It basically means that the duelist and Hoolay will be taking turns one after another rapid fire

rocky palm
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nikke players need to check out the new character

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Trina looks extremely good

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For one character in particular lol

shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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It's too weird to give Scarlet a custom support after 2.5 years, additionally considering that she's "fallen off" in most everything except PvP (using fallen off extremely liberally here)

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, I can see that. However, the fact that literally everything Trina does benefits Scarlet in every way possible makes me think she is just a dedicated Scarlet support.
That being said though, she also apparently works well with Moran in PvP, though I haven looked into that one much.

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Also there have been some new ads for the game that show Siren with the animations of a playable character.
I've not seen her in the story yet so I don't really know what she's capable of, but it's possible Trina could also be a support for her if she's playable.

rocky palm
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That's another reason for my suspicions

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Imo she looks like an electric character

shrewd plinth
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Yeah

reef elm
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I might pull as well

rocky palm
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I find it funny that her burst animation is literally just "no more clothes" lmao

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They're definitely doing the same thing as destiny child where the animations and designs slowly become more and more raunchy until you have practically full blown nudity by the end

reef elm
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Nah that burst animation has me dead what

shrewd plinth
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She just goes full Kill la Kill Nudist Beach on the enemies

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It's great

rocky palm
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Something really interesting I just saw being discussed

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Her kit specifically says "rifles"

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not "assault rifles"

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so it's possible that she works for sniper rifles as well as assault rifles

shrewd plinth
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That could be cool!
Though I think that only really adds Ein onto the list of good DPS' she can benefit

rocky palm
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【NIKKE Motion Demonstration and Skill Introduction】

#NIKKE #Trina

Trina uses RL: Mother Nature.

Trina is a supporter who specializes in healing allies with low HP. With her Burst Skill, she enhances her allies' attac…

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actually v confused now cause the tweet says assault rifles and skills do not say assault

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will spoil that bc nsfw StupidFuckingDmonDog

shrewd plinth
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Might just be a translation thing

rocky palm
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also i have to say that they put crazy detail in her feet 😭

shrewd plinth
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It probably is only ARs, but whoever tranlated the kit image forgot to specify that

rocky palm
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I hope it's both

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It would make it less strange for her to be so niche

shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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trony on another level though 💀

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I really dislike how much they pushed that part of her design

shrewd plinth
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Yeah...
I don't mind it too much, but it does kinda suck since her character's actually pretty cool

rocky palm
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yeah i like her character but the design was off putting enough to me that i skipped her and have no plans to go for her anytime soon

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i don't think she benefits any of my teams either

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also also, it's so nice that Trina's burst 2

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There are so few competitive burst 2's, even if she's best for scarlet her healing makes her a pretty strong "budget" option for solo raid and the like

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, true!

shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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she's a b3?

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wack

shrewd plinth
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Yup

rocky palm
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defo don't need her then

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i've got way too many b3 characters lol

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and more than enough for solo raid rotations

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ty SSR Rapi 🙏

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, I've got a few really good ones as well, especially for the stage of the game I'm at

rocky palm
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what level are you at?

shrewd plinth
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My account's currently Lvl 173, with my Nikkes being at 205

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I've got a super-invested Alice, Scarlet, Rapi: RH, the new versions of Asuka and Rei, Cinderella, SBS and a few other solid ones

rocky palm
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nice

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Alice is my most invested character somehow lol

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She goes with BScarlet chronically though which is both fortunate and unfortunate

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Two strongest dps characters together in same team isn't always ideal

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Their synergy is too strong to break up though

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Still need to upgrade her item and reroll some of her armor

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The level helps quite a bit though Sparkle_Lighter

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, I've got quite a bit to upgrade

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The SR doll she has is only level 11 as well

rocky palm
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it costs so much to upgrade them

shrewd plinth
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Yeah...

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I've only got a few R doll max level, but most of the ones I've equipped are still only Level 0

rocky palm
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I'm working on maxing Drake's doll rn, cause I want to get her treasure

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Drake is my goat StupidFuckingAnglDog

toxic rain
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I will be pulling for anby on my other account wish me luck

rocky palm
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I keep waiting for Prydwen to do a review of how good she is with her treasure, they haven't done it for her but they have for everyone else so far

rocky palm
shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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Frima's was the first I got StupidFuckingAnglDog

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sleepy frimers

shrewd plinth
toxic rain
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It’s still technically not better luck than my other account it’s how my other account started except I got Ellen Joe extremely early

reef elm
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Joe

rocky palm
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dake dancin

rocky palm
west meteorBOT
rocky palm
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For anyone unaware: this is the VA of Soldier 11 who was replaced today in ZZZ after being unvoiced for a while

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I'd recommend reading through the short thread for a better understanding of the current VA situation for Hoyo games, and also to potentially prepare yourself for Himeko/DH/TB va's being replaced

lilac spire
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not surprising, i think the voice actors guild is still fighting for protection against ai

rocky palm
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yep

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Hoyo has not signed an interrim agreement yet

shrewd plinth
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And I kinda doubt they will, considering that it would force a considerable number of their game's VAs to be replaced due to them being non-union.
Hoyo's likely just waiting for this whole thing to end, and doing all they can to keep the players happy while complying with the VAs wishes

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It's a really complicated, and generally just crap-all-round situation

reef elm
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Didn’t know that sag wanted all the vas they work with to be part of union

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That might be a big reason why it’s not been signed in so long

shrewd plinth
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At least that's what I've heard. I'm pretty sure it's from Zach Aguilar (Aether's VA), but SAG is basically using this oppourunity to 'force' non-union VAs to join their union if what I've heard to is be believed.

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Either way

reef elm
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Yay

shrewd plinth
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I have over 100 pulls, 25 pity and a guarantee. I'm ready to get my pink fluffy cow

fiery geyser
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🐄

reef elm
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I finally got Rina

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LETS GO

shrewd plinth
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Nice!

reef elm
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Now I gotta choose someone to get for the 5 star selector in 20 pulls

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Probably lycaon c1

rocky palm
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I described it as "sag aftra greed" in another server

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They're using the issue of AI VA's (which should be banned, there's no debate there except in the very small indie game case) to also push their agenda of requiring preferential treatment given to union members

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Do I support VA's getting better pay via union protections? No doubt, the industry seems really shitty to work in

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But using the AI debacle to further that goal is really bad when everyone NEEDS the ai stuff to be resolved

shrewd plinth
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Yeah...

rocky palm
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Still insanely shit all around

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I just hope that Stelle doesn't get replaced

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Obviously don't want any of the VA's to be replaced, but Stelle is like my #1 priority for unvoiced characters rn

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If Acheron VA ever got replaced I'd actually crash out lmao

reef elm
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Nah that’d be crazy

rocky palm
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She and a lot of the other penacony characters are more or less "protected" right now

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All characters that don't have to appear in big roles are not at risk

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I'm not really sure why Huohuo and Argenti got replaced a while back, but the reason why Lycaon and S11 got replaced just now is because they both have major roles in the new ZZZ patch

reef elm
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Yeah I really hope that tb gets the same va

shrewd plinth
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Varesa's JP VA Revealed!

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She also voices Narmaya from GBF, Pecorine from Princess Connect and Snow White from Nikke

reef elm
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Ooo

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
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for a sec I thought that was varesa lol

shrewd plinth
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Just goes to show how perfect the VA choice is

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I really looking forward to seeing who her ENVA is on Friday though

rocky palm
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morgan freeman

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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it was leaked

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my uncle's dog works at hoyo

fiery geyser
reef elm
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You have summoned the dog

fiery geyser
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I think I’m gonna gamble for wrio’s weapon

shrewd plinth
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do it

fiery geyser
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Here goes nothing

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cuz if I get furi sword…

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wow lmao

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so I got furi sword

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BUT

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within 10 pity

shrewd plinth
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Yo nice!

fiery geyser
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still a little unfortunate, favonius is just way too comfy

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but I really shouldn’t be complaining

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, for sure.
Though if you can get enough ER on her without Fav/Fleuve Cendre, then it's a really good weapon to use

fiery geyser
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true

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my mono hydro team:

shrewd plinth
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It's also a pretty solid stat stick for characters that you run with Furina as well

fiery geyser
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ooo, I didn’t think of that

shrewd plinth
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For example, it's a crapton of Crit DMG and 24% Skill DMG for someone like Clorinde

fiery geyser
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alhaitham with Furina also

shrewd plinth
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Yup!

fiery geyser
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OOO

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ok finally

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sig acquired

shrewd plinth
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Hell yeah!

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
fiery geyser
rocky palm
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Seems like there's growing animosity to SAG in the hoyo comments

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Just saw a reddit post where people were calling it a mafia organization trying to muscle other unions out of the picture with the exclusivity part of their demands

muted tundra
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S11 and Lycaon gets replaced at a time where they became relevant in the story, it's looking like other unvoiced characters(Jane, Koleda and Rina) are on the chopping block next

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I also highly doubt that the VAs or the SAGAFTRA is acting in bad faith

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Bayo VA situation felt like an one in a million case

rocky palm
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Not guaranteed though

rocky palm
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My personal issue with sagaftra is that the contract they are trying to make the companies sign is an exclusivity contract for sagaftra union members which fucks over the entirety of the va industry who AREN'T part of sagaftra

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I think the contract should be about AI issues and AI issues alone

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If sagaftra wants to try to control the ENVA industry after that then they can go for it, but piling it together with the much greater issue of AI voices is not cash money

rocky palm
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it's next to impossible to find the actual contract it seems, but it essentially says preference for hiring must be given to sagaftra members

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additionally it makes projects with sagaftra members union projects, which excludes non-union VA's. This can be minimized by non-union VA's signing Taft-Harley contracts, which allows them to work on these union projects

muted tundra
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do we exactly know who said gave information on this?

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like an insider?

rocky palm
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However there are additional complications with these, as there are a limited number of these that you can have and there is also some kind of strike system in place that I do not have any significant info about, but it's supposed to also be bad for NU va's

rocky palm
muted tundra
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I wanna see it

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do you have their name or the name of the sub you saw it in?

west meteorBOT
# rocky palm https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1i2bcqh/why_is_en_dub_muted_act...
rocky palm
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I can't find the second one which went into more detail on the contract

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This is the big part of this post though

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If Hoyo signs: All VA's that aren't in SAG have to quit, or join SAG, or get Taft Harley. There are (apparently) a limited total number of these, either per VA or per project (game)

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If Hoyo doesn't sign: Eventually, all VA's that ARE in SAG have to quit. For now they are allowed to work due to HSR being in development pre-strike, which provides it with an exception. Some VA's choose not to work anyways though out of decisions to support the strike

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The reasoning behind SAG members getting preferential treatment in the contract is because of union member's minimum salaries and such

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They need preferential treatment, otherwise they wouldn't get hired (though this is not true for all studios as is evidenced by Hoyo having hired a good number of them)

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Issues with the exclusivity part of the contract:
SAG has some hefty fees apparently, a 3k flat fee for joining and then a monthly fee after that.

If you aren't a "popular" VA, you can't consistently get work. You don't have the option of choosing between union and non-union work, so if you join the union you cut off your non-union options. If all the studios sign the contract, then you can try for Taft-Harley exemptions. Because of the limitations on this, if you don't get paid very well then you can't get enough money to live your life, whereas previously you would go for quantity over quality

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If you're a popular VA then you have no issues, as you're most likely a member of the unions already since you can afford it all

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Me: I support the anti-AI stance but SAG seems super scummy with their additional requests and I think the contract will ultimately bring more harm than not signing it will tbh. This is from what I've read and researched on my own time, I don't have any real expertise with the VA industry though

rocky palm
shrewd plinth
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Sound Cadence works with ZZZ, not HSR.
Rocket Sound works with HSR, and SIDE (previously Formosa) works with Genshin

rocky palm
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Ah okay

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I got confused ig cause the majority of the posts today were about ZZZ

muted tundra
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man being a VA must suck ass

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if I had acting talent I would probably do my best to work in onstage stuff

rocky palm
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It's definitely an abusive industry

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Probably in part due to how "invisible" it is

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Most players/consumers never see the people behind the voices

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They just see the characters

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So companies can get away with treating the people like shit as long as the voicelines work

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Anyways though, hopefully that wall of text helps

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Obviously make your own opinions on it

muted tundra
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you can find a person in LA to voice Lycaon way more easily than an actor that could be cast as Tyrion Lannister as well as Peter Dinklage

rocky palm
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It also has to do with how easy it is to replace voicelines

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It gets trickier with a game like HSR where there are many different dialogue options that trigger in very different sequences, but ultimately it's all a bunch of mp3 files

muted tundra
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also is it just me or is Hoyo becoming more greedy with DPS W-engines

rocky palm
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apparently anby's gives 108% cd?

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lmao

muted tundra
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sig W-engine for the next void hunter is gonna be like "gives 25% crit rate and 50% crit damage" as the start of the extra buffs

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this is the third time it happened since they pulled this shit with Miyabi

rocky palm
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yeah evelyn's is super duper strong on her

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helps immensely with getting her required 80% cr

fiery geyser
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80% cr is a prerequisite for a mechanic?

muted tundra
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iirc its the cap for a buff?

fiery geyser
muted tundra
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ah nvm it is for a buff

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some characters have similar stuff but with caps for buffs

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Astra gives you a damage based on her attack but its capped at 3400 of her attack stat

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I mixed them up

muted tundra
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7 for 7

fiery geyser
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Arby’s

humble citrus
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I used 30 pulls for burnice and didn’t get her, but i’m kinda glad i didn’t bc i think i’ll like vivian better

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plus i want to run a full ether team and i don’t have ZY

toxic rain
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I remember when condla was gunna quit zzz when he wasn’t winning a 50/50 look at him now

foggy vortex
humble citrus
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My pulls...

humble citrus
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gone, reduced to ashes...

rocky palm
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Me when Ratio is sent to the shadow realm

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(He will never get a rerun)

humble citrus
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I actually want one of the new characters bc I'm almost done building sushang

humble citrus
rocky palm
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It would be awesome if it's just a super limited currency and every pull gets you a 5*

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Nikke has something vaguely similar in the mold system

muted tundra
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I hate the mold system😭

rocky palm
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It does suck ass tbf

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Got a 4* the last 3 times i've pulled a mold iirc lol

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And as we all know, 4*'s may as well not exist in Nikke

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I don't even bother checking their kits at this point, the only use case any of them have is burst generation in PvP and that's ONLY if they're a rocket launcher

muted tundra
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I think I would be okay with a trade off with always getting a SSR but you get them once every 2 month or something

rocky palm
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I think she still has best burst generation across the board?

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Not 100% but yeah, that's the main reason i use her

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Anis: "Why do I exist"
Me: "You get Scarlet's nuke up faster"

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Also I wait for 5* Anis :3

muted tundra
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I still don't understand PVP for the most part

rocky palm
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It's utter garbage

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P2W exclusive pretty much

muted tundra
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like which stuff are meta in todays units

rocky palm
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You basically build your team to be gimmicky af but it still boils down to a numbers game

rocky palm
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Stuff like that

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It's honestly not worth your time unless you're a whale and synthesizer level 450 or something

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I used to try to do it but my level got mega crept by everyone else in my server and now I'm stuck in plat 9 or whatever it's called

muted tundra
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I still need to catch up on nikke

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just finished the story that was in at launch

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might need to drop one or two games

rocky palm
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damn you got a lot to do in game then

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are you aware of the current story developments at all?

muted tundra
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not really

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some out of context stuff and thats it

rocky palm
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zamn

muted tundra
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why😭

muted tundra
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I'll get to it😭

shrewd plinth
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If it's any consolation, I pretty much just got to Chapter 23 so I'm not much further ahead

humble citrus
reef elm
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Ikr

humble citrus
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then pull for others later

reef elm
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Might as well go for e4

humble citrus
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i’m already at e2 and have 70 pulls saved

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plus i have guarantee

reef elm
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I have about 40-50 pulls

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Maybe more if I did story

humble citrus
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There’s a lot in the exploration

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shoutouts to herta for helping me with chests

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@rocky palm is the optimal acheron team JQ/Sunday/Aventurine?

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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At e0 Acheron, BiS is Acheron/Gallagher (QPQ)/Robin/JQ

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at e2, the same

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If you open up support eidolons then it becomes Acheron/Aven/e1 Tribbie/JQ

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And that particular team is so far in the lead that it's not even funny

humble citrus
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let’s assume e2 acheron and e0 supports

rocky palm
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Sunday can work as a replacement in many situations but there's a certain point where cd doesn't increase your damage meaninfully anymore

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He also requires you to wear speed boots and does not provide any natural attack buffs

reef elm
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The min maxer in me wants e1tribbie but I don’t think I have enough time for that

rocky palm
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Acheron/Sustain/Sunday/JQ is a strong alternative

humble citrus
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alr, cool

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does QPQ select acheron?

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seems like a downside in that comp

fiery geyser
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Unfortunately yeah

humble citrus
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but if keep acheron at 4 or 5 stacks it should be fine

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sounds doable

fiery geyser
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nope, she’s always considered 0 energy

humble citrus
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FUCK

fiery geyser
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yeah…

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Fei has the same problem

humble citrus
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smh smh, fix this broken character hyv

rocky palm
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Using my acheron team, these are the stats for
e0s0 Tribbie
e0s1 Sunday
e0s1 Robin

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So sunday surprisingly beats out Robin in this setting

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s0 Robin

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Actually I lied, this is s0 Sunday

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So yeah ig Sunday is now BiS at e0

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Tribbie's calculation seems to be slightly broken, her e1 is not going into effect when I test it

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However, the order should be (at e0)

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  1. Sunday
  2. Robin
  3. Tribbie
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Sunday and Robin will likely be interchangeable in practice

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At e1, the order is

  1. Tribbie
  2. Tribbie
  3. Tribbie
  4. Everyone else
wicked gazelle
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What's the over under on e0 tribbie vs e0 sparkle

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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u right, my b

rocky palm
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At e0 though, Tribbie is not a notable improvement over any of the other 5* Harmonies

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So I would expect Sparkle to win

wicked gazelle
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....

rocky palm
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*for Acheron

fiery geyser
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Sparkle might also come ahead for stack generation

rocky palm
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Acheron's big kit issue is that she massively overkills mobs

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And does not do increased damage to the boss in a notable fashion

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e1 Tribbie takes all of Acheron's overkill damage and says "fuck you" to the boss

rocky palm
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at e2s1 Acheron's turn becomes 3x as valuable as other Nihility characters turns, bc she inflicts 3 debuffs

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Tribbie can inflict a debuff 1 time in a battle, when she first uses her ult (assuming you maintain her ult uptime)

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if you fail to maintain her ult uptime then she can inflict another when she does ult again. Tbh idk why it doesn't inflict another debuff when her ult refreshes, it's very annoying

wicked gazelle
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Without jq, tribbie really is worse than Sunday or sparkle huh

rocky palm
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Yes

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AA will always win over other harmony characters if you don't have JQ

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There is no team that comes even close to JQ's stack generation without AA

humble citrus
rocky palm
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Even the Robin comp wants JQ for stack generation

wicked gazelle
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But JQ doesn't have a dragon feesh

rocky palm
fiery geyser
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yeah, he’s just a silly little fox

humble citrus
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i might try acheron/JQ/robin/aven

rocky palm
humble citrus
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i've been running sparkle as the 2nd support

rocky palm
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Acheron has "fallen off" and you may want to invest in the easier and more meta relevant pick of Castorice

humble citrus
wicked gazelle
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My current plan is to pull for cas anyways. If I win the 5050 I'll try for s1. If not I'll try for jq

wicked gazelle
humble citrus
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i could but i like acheron more

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plus i want e6 acheron so do RM+acheron for a break team

rocky palm
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While I think that e0 Acheron has fallen off quite hard, e2 Acheron is currently a monster in the erudition meta (due to her being an erudition character in all but path) and e1 Tribbie has made her an apocalyptic event

rocky palm
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She has an insanely broken kit for any content with 3+ enemies

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At fewer than 3 it becomes a bit weaker but still crazy strong

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Her two main issues are overkilling and all her damage being frontloaded to ult

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Robin helps a lot with the latter by giving additional damage on skill

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Sunday helps a lot with the latter by increasing ult uptime

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e1 Tribbie helps a lot by solving both problems at once

humble citrus
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Do you think we'll get a support that allows for damage storage, and can then release it later