Gacha hell

[rocky palm]

that was what i wanted to mention lol

i think 2.7 was decent, but the short duration really hampered the development and redemption arc of sunday's character

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz72wh56RSg

So I just watched this vid on AK: Endfield's Combat System

I'm sold

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/faereiyon/status/1801471237476204832?s=19&mx=2 Clorox

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/faereiyon/status/1801471237476204832

[shrewd plinth]

Chlorine

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/103667229
https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/96298836

Tomorrow

[fiery geyser]

chronicled wish time

[shrewd plinth]

[crisp birch]

Shenhers

[shrewd plinth]

[crisp birch]

[knotty latch]

Gonna try it out on release for a few days for sure

[muted tundra]

Albert in the gacha channel?

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, same!
I may pick it up long-term if I can afford the time investment

[muted tundra]

what are the system requirements on PC?

[shrewd plinth]

These are the requirements as of the most recent beta, I'm hoping they'll optimise the game a bit before release though

[muted tundra]

gpu and cpu might be basing a higher resolution than 1080p

a lot of games do that nowadays, so it might not be a big deal if you don't have a monitor that only supports 1080p

[knotty latch]

Ooof...

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah...

[knotty latch]

i've watched a bit of kyostin stream rn from endfield

~~ and reinstalled Satisfactory ~~

[shrewd plinth]

[shrewd plinth]

So close to perfection...

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

casted my first day vote for FEH

[fiery geyser]

Shrimply wait for the lantern rite wishes to kick in and don’t do commissions yet

[muted tundra]

guess who

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

Ike?

[muted tundra]

Ike was one of the original winners actually years back

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

okay it was the villain in FE8

they just added him to the candidates this year

Santa Fomortis

[fiery geyser]

looks a little goofy but also sick 😭

[muted tundra]

we talk about powercreep all the time but no one talks about the gamesize creep

everytime we get a new patch and its like 10 gigs I weep a little

[rocky palm]

i saw people talking about cleavage powercreep the other day in the subreddit

[shrewd plinth]

https://vxtwitter.com/enzore_/status/1881398257890541924

[knotty latch]

Ayo?

[reef elm]

I remember that lol

I think my fu xuan might suck

[reef elm]

@rocky palm I’ve finished the story

||What do you mean elysia is dead||

||Wonder if march and mem are elysia ||

||Also phainon definitely fails imo||

Don’t even need to look at drip marketing for that

[rocky palm]

||apparently this is already basically confirmed bc the book shows mydei on the path of strife and phainon on another path lol||

the one he ends up on is ||kephale's, unsurprisingly||

[reef elm]

||Yeah I’m pretty sure kephales symbol is somewhere on his design too||

Huh so phainons homecity is said to be a mystery

According to book

[rocky palm]

quite a mysterious individual this guy...

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-phainon-hsr-honkai-star-rail-honkaistarrail-gacha-gif-9568718258701887188

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-kaslana-shamash-an-utu-honkai-impact-gif-25556516

[reef elm]

Btw how does light come banner pity work

[reef elm]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/126414910

[west meteor]

https://phixiv.net/en/artworks/126414910

[rocky palm]

same as character pity

that is to say, it works the same

the pity numbers are themselves different

and the odds of getting the rate up lc is 75/25

75% chance the 5* lc is rate up, 25% chance the 5* lc is from standard pool

[reef elm]

Is guaranteed at 50

[rocky palm]

no

[reef elm]

I rember getting both Acheron at around there

Dang

[rocky palm]

65 is soft pity, 80 is hard pity

apparently

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DnxpbOsFVo

[rocky palm]

You should come back to HSR and get Aglaea with me

please

[shrewd plinth]

no

[reef elm]

Is that nine emotes?

[shrewd plinth]

Yes

[plain bluff]

I think Lucolo is

[rocky palm]

you better not let me down @humble citrus

join me in only pulling for lightning dps

[plain bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/feixiao-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-7054801957826667690

[rocky palm]

green lightning

[lilac spire]

what are the munching on

[fiery geyser]

lmao, i thought it was a sticker

she got fragmented in the reply

[rocky palm]

oh fucking lol i thought it was a sticker too

i clicked on it and was confused about the number

[shrewd plinth]

[fiery geyser]

concrete figured it out since the beginning

[shrewd plinth]

I also have this

[fiery geyser]

widefei

[rocky palm]

feide

[lilac spire]

how much smug can you put into a single emote

[fiery geyser]

none can surpass smug yanfei

yeah, doesn't count

[lilac spire]

i just realized theres a better higher def version uploaded so now i have to hide my shame

[reef elm]

The notification told me lol

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/pWNgP3UfPy

[west meteor]

https://vxreddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/pWNgP3UfPy

[fiery geyser]

[reef elm]

I wonder if hoyo would ever make an anemo healer and grouper

Would be great for Eula

So excited for zzz update tomorrow

[reef elm]

I have discovered hsr pomemon

Yo it’s Dunn the goat

[reef elm]

https://youtu.be/Tmd0cDFN-I4?si=2MPULkC2QBYamIfH

[robust inlet]

is she supposed to be a love interest for MC or something

[reef elm]

I think everyone is

[robust inlet]

thats kinda true

everyones always flirting

[crisp birch]

At this point get a sticker

[reef elm]

Astra feels very pushed

[crisp birch]

Pop star

She kinda barges into his home at the end of the most recent quest

[robust inlet]

yes i know

i have belle though so

i was belle for it

[crisp birch]

Same premise either way

[robust inlet]

indeed

it was kinda a fun quest and i kinda like her as a character

but she's a bit annoying

[crisp birch]

I think it’s just like

Enjoying the company because she’s her and not bc she’s famous? Idk yada yada she’s dumb and funny

Don’t care how much she sings I ain’t pulling

||especially after seeing Hugo model leaks||

[robust inlet]

im probably gonna try to get her

just for the sake of collecting all the 5 stars ngl

[crisp birch]

Your wallet must be crying

[reef elm]

Going for Evelyn, wengine and qingyi

[reef elm]

||Hmm umbrella girl||

I think she was in a trailer

[crisp birch]

Barely but yes she was

||I just saw Hugo had a scythe and now I have to lock in||

||unless he’s ice attack still like old leaks said, bc then he’s fucking cooked lmao||

[reef elm]

||Big scythe||

[reef elm]

No way lmao

[crisp birch]

||he has to be phys attack for me to pull honestly, anything else is an instant skip. All my other elements are full||

[reef elm]

U have Zhu yuan?

I have nearly 110 pulls saved up and it will be hard not to pull lol

[crisp birch]

And her engine

As well as ceaser and hers

[reef elm]

Oh nice

[crisp birch]

And then Miyabi c2 and engine

For standard 5 stars I have everyone but Koleda

C1 Lycaon and his engine

[reef elm]

I think Caesar’s f2p engines is one the worst

[crisp birch]

C1 Soldier plus 3 FUCKING BRIMSTONES

and a Neko engine

[crisp birch]

Her engine is just too busted to not pick up anyways

[reef elm]

That’s a lot of pulls

[crisp birch]

It’s very worth it tho

[reef elm]

Big damage

You pulling for qingyi or nah

[robust inlet]

i never pay for anything

my time is whats crying

i have to grind so much

[crisp birch]

Well then you’re very lucky

I’m usually hitting full pity twice before getting what I want

[robust inlet]

i have been very lucky in the past

[reef elm]

I have a friend who is only missing two characters

[crisp birch]

In return I’m pulling 5 crit role on set discs

[robust inlet]

im missing like 5?

[reef elm]

His luck is insane

[crisp birch]

Equivalent exchange

[robust inlet]

zhu yuan, qingyi, lighter, koleda, burnice

i think thats it

[reef elm]

Give

[robust inlet]

i missed zhu yuan and qingyi and lighter because i simply didnt care

and i still dont really

but burnice was kinda sad and i still want koleda but i just dont pull on the standard banner often

oh im also missing nekomata

i forgot about her

[crisp birch]

Give me Asabas engine and I will

And Qingyi

And her engine

[robust inlet]

i dont want qingyi she's boring

[reef elm]

Uh

[robust inlet]

mashing left click isnt the most engaging of gameplay

[reef elm]

But I want qingyi

[crisp birch]

I want Qingyi because damage is fun

[crisp birch]

My Zhu yuan needs it more

[reef elm]

Nay

[crisp birch]

I shouldn’t’ve opened up HoYoLAB

wtf autocorrect

[reef elm]

HoYoLAB is certainly a younger audience

[crisp birch]

First thing I see

[reef elm]

Fox ears lol

[crisp birch]

Ngl tho I would pull for soldier Evelyn

Soldier 11 my beloved

[reef elm]

We need more oboe squad

I’m calling it oboe now

[crisp birch]

We have very early leaks

Obvi we have trigger the sniper

There were two others

One was a male robot

[reef elm]

Definitely gonna pull for the sniper whenever she comes

[crisp birch]

No enka for zzz yet damn

Too bad I have HoYoLAB lmao

There

Long ass image

Fuck me lol

[reef elm]

232 cd?

[crisp birch]

Mhm

[reef elm]

I’m gonna skip Astra also cause I don’t wanna replace Nicole

[crisp birch]

Based af

[reef elm]

Then I’d have to regard for her

And get decent cr

[crisp birch]

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-nicole-zenless-zone-zero-nicole-gif-12370469714442581669

Nicole my beloved

[reef elm]

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/zzz-game-record/m.html?hyl_presentation_style=fullscreen&bbs_auth_required=true&game_id=8&user_id=30007425&uid=30007425&utm_source=share&utm_medium=hoyolab&utm_campaign=app#/zzz/roles/1241/detail?role_id=1000515523&server=prod_gf_us

Dang

[crisp birch]

I’m also not replacing her bc Nicole is very tailored to Zhu and astra is very general

[reef elm]

HoYoLAB mid

[crisp birch]

Gotta save the photo

[crisp birch]

If you had her engine you’d have max cr

[reef elm]

Skin today

I should look into replacing 6

[crisp birch]

Me when astra release

https://tenor.com/view/broly-dbz-gif-23852192

Me when Nicole skin

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sragon-ball-super-broly-gif-12850163

[reef elm]

Real

[crisp birch]

Oof yeah

I could do a total revamp

Improve on some discs

2 4 and 5 specifically

[reef elm]

I think that ones from a tuning calibrator 😦

[crisp birch]

That was made a while ago that’s why, when I was juggling 6 builds at once lol

Also really happy how asaba turned out

[reef elm]

Nice

Everyone gets a brimstone

[crisp birch]

Fucking

Yeah

I’ve got a spare one still

Also ofc the Miyabi flex

The legendary void hunter

[reef elm]

I should like sleep but sleep is bad for you

[crisp birch]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-gif-3608417060575623849

[crisp birch]

Real

If I’m asleep how can I grind more stones on dokkan

[reef elm]

I hate this wengine

[reef elm]

69 cr

[crisp birch]

https://tenor.com/view/he-hehe-boy-boi-boyi-gif-7890844

In battle she goes up to

Uhh

96

Bc of c2 and the set

[reef elm]

Nice

[crisp birch]

Very

[reef elm]

I’m not sure what my miyabi crit is in battle but I hit 200k frostfire and that’s all I need

[crisp birch]

Zzz is a game I actively can’t tell what my damage is lmao

I know shit dies fast

[reef elm]

I’m thinking I’ll do soukaku Caesar as my team since Evelyn will get lighter

[crisp birch]

And in miyabi’s case it’s instant

So I must be doing something right

[reef elm]

I can only read frost fire cause it’s a darker blue

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-lighter-zenless-zone-zero-lighter-zzz-hot-zenless-zone-zero-hot-gif-17199078715199334364

[crisp birch]

Everything too fast for me tbh, numbers too small and gameplay too actiony

I judge it like I did raid bosses in destiny 1

Healthbar percentage

[reef elm]

Yeah that’s a good benchmark

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/95462882

[humble citrus]

I have 20 pulls, no pity and dream

(yes i will be trying)

[wicked gazelle]

Robin e1 save for that!

[rocky palm]

[shrewd plinth]

[knotty latch]

believe in the heart of gacha!

[shrewd plinth]

We don't lose 50/50s

[humble citrus]

I still need to do the 2.7 and 3.0 story so i have pulls to grind.

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

I

uh

HOLY FUCK

hhhh

Just did a random 10 pull on Arle as well just for the hell of it

and not only did I get her

I didn't lose my Guarantee either

We do not lose, ever

NEVER PUNISHED

[humble citrus]

@rocky palm does the acheron JQ/robin team require speed tuning? if yes how much

[muted tundra]

stepping out of your house to find Bill Gates' credit card on your doormat sort of luck

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

Good job I'm not going outside any time soon so any trucks can't run me over due to me luck being expended

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-hit-im-off-zombieland-saga-sakura-minamoto-gif-16144958

[reef elm]

Now get her weapon

[shrewd plinth]

Nah, I already have a better one (For Ganyu)

I got Chasca's sig in 5.2

Which is currently her BiS

[fiery geyser]

I think he meant for Arle

[reef elm]

The scythe?

[shrewd plinth]

Oh wait, I'm stupid

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

I'm still recovering from the shock so I didn't realise you were talking about Arle

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-gif-02-gif-2505214229694161711

[shrewd plinth]

But to properly answer your question, I have PJWS which is her 2nd-best option

[muted tundra]

also didn't get Mavuika, see her in 6 months I guess

might use my pity on arle now

I'm just hoping her BIS teammates run on different patches

[reef elm]

I got Arles weapon at 16 pity and I will probably never be luckier

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, I'm not tempting fate by going on the weapon banner

plus, I'm broke

so there's that

[reef elm]

I’m still waiting for chevreuse one

[muted tundra]

wdym?

[fiery geyser]

Chevy is on this banner iirc?

[reef elm]

Yooo she’s on a banner I’m gonna pull for?

[muted tundra]

yeah

[reef elm]

Finally

[fiery geyser]

might pull also cuz I really want at least a c0 Chevy

[muted tundra]

pulling for 4* characters are some of the most stressful stuff ever

[fiery geyser]

Yeah

when getting a 4 star is technically harder than securing a 5 star

💀

[muted tundra]

it also reminds me of pulling for rate up chars on FEH

[reef elm]

Especially constellations

[muted tundra]

because the rates are similar

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

3 rate ups without pity if you're f2p

[fiery geyser]

oof

[muted tundra]

base SSR rate is better than most gacha but still

they do be running a game without pity

[fiery geyser]

so if you’re that unlucky you could go a year without getting anything

[muted tundra]

if you never go for banners with F2P pity yeah

fortunately there are some F2P pity banners that are good but most don't have them

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

I talk shit but I will probably go play it again when they do this years CYLs in the summer

[rocky palm]

Not at all

Just max JQ speed

Personally I use speed boots on Acheron in the Robin comp

Don't think they're needed though

[humble citrus]

having trouble on AS 2nd side so im gonna run acheron

[rocky palm]

I'll post my Acheron build in a bit if you want

[rocky palm]

Phantylia side is honestly unbearable in this one

I remember when she first came around and it wasn't that bad

[humble citrus]

im running my maxed out firefly and it's a pain in the ass

[rocky palm]

This time everything has like 4x health and 3x toughness bars

[humble citrus]

HYV is really pushing AOE huh

[rocky palm]

Yeah...

Acheron performs super well on first side

Even though it comes with a 40% lightning res

[humble citrus]

I have herta/jade so im doing that on 1st side

[rocky palm]

Second side I did with Boot and it fucking sucked lol

[reef elm]

I’m probably gonna run herta first side when she’s built

[fiery geyser]

also the incoming damage definitely got tuned up a bit

last time she hit like a pillow

did a sustainless run where she basically nuked tf out of fugue

||Lore accurate ||

[rocky palm]

@humble citrus

[rocky palm]

Yeah sustainless was pathetically easy last time

Obviously boot can't kill the flowers as easily as acheron can but on my last attempt everyone but RM got nuked by the flower bomb

[rocky palm]

For some reason Fribbels really doesn't like showing speed buffs, but Acheron w/e2 Robin ult has 151 speed in combat

Not that it changes anything functionally but just fyi

it makes speed boots more appealing for me whereas you might want to stick with attack boots maybe

[fiery geyser]

The cage or when she says “time to end this?”

[rocky palm]

the cage i think

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

the one where the flower surrounds the character above and below

and then laser beam explosion

[fiery geyser]

Yeah, before she resummons them

[reef elm]

Darn you got my hopes up

Still 4 more hours

[shrewd plinth]

Ah yeah, still a bit longer for NA

[wicked gazelle]

What da hell are those boots feesh

[rocky palm]

kinda mid ngl

i can't tell you how much i wish that i didn't have to use these ones lol

[plain bluff]

why?

also, Feixiao is pretty good for the second side of AS

this time around

despite not being aoe

[rocky palm]

much rather have a good stat spread rather than a piece with a singular massive stat

[plain bluff]

fair enough

but having this piece opens up your other pieces

for that

[wicked gazelle]

Yeah idk I'd rather have +30 cd on any piece

[rocky palm]

not especially, not with my desired build anyways

what i WANT is to use my cd chest

and have enough cr substats to have at least 90% cr in combat

[plain bluff]

I see

with sunday, right

or are you aiming for this with robin

(as the screenshot implies)

[rocky palm]

with robin

sunday is going to aglaea

[plain bluff]

at least your build is better than mine

jokes aside, that makes sense

would you rather have cr+4 boots?

or would you prefer cr/cd boots

[rocky palm]

Yeah

having a cd chest and good cr substats enables a lot more damage imo

it just feels easier to get to high cd that way

functionally they're the same so ig it's just my roll bias talking

i get really high cd rolls a lot, not so much cr

[plain bluff]

your current ratio isn't bad at all

tbh

especially with that attack stat

[plain bluff]

it's much better than my build, at least

[rocky palm]

except for this perfect piece lol

[rocky palm]

yeah

it's just the minmax demon in my head

[plain bluff]

relic grinding makes minmaxing such a pain

[rocky palm]

what's your ratio at?

[plain bluff]

I'm running her with Sunday

so her CR is effectively 100%

[rocky palm]

gotcha gotcha

could technically knock off another 10 cr if you wanted

this is kind of dependent on how the boots reroll

but would you say cr or cd chest makes more sense for this

[plain bluff]

yeah, I really want to

I just have no relics for that

though

[plain bluff]

imo CD is better

Aglaea has a lot of hits on her attacks

right

[rocky palm]

uhhh

i think it's 5 hit or something

[plain bluff]

hmm

does that cr account for her traces

[rocky palm]

yes

she gets 12% from traces

also includes sunday skill and rmc eidolons

i'm kind of praying that the boots roll purely into cr

[plain bluff]

yeah

depends on that

then

CR chest might be better

if not

[rocky palm]

yeahhhh

the cr is going to overcap no matter what rn tho

if i have a cr chest

so i'm trying to avoid that

[plain bluff]

true

but it's better than being below 100%

her LC provides crit damage, right?

[rocky palm]

yes...

though i'm not certain if i can get it

[plain bluff]

that + sunday should probably help a lot

when it comes to fixing the cr/cd ratio

[rocky palm]

this calculation already has the cd from the lc in it fyi

[plain bluff]

the combat stats?

cr chest would probably be better then

tbh

unless your boots roll really well

[rocky palm]

i'll wait to see how the boots go then

[plain bluff]

1:3 is a pretty solid ratio

[rocky palm]

1:4 is better though

[plain bluff]

1:5 is better though

[rocky palm]

ngl with my insane luck on the rope head and arm pieces

aglaea could be the one who finally gets me to the WTF tier

[plain bluff]

are you fully committing to her?

[rocky palm]

i need 2 speed on the chest and then I get to 2x sunday speed as well

[plain bluff]

she seems really solid

[rocky palm]

so she'll act 3x before he advances her

[rocky palm]

yeah

[plain bluff]

have you seen the recent showcases?

[rocky palm]

i really like her design

and she's pretty

[rocky palm]

mydei/tribbie?

[plain bluff]

she can 0-cycle even on lightning resist bosses

no

the Aglaea ones

there were a few around when Tribbie/Mydei came out

[rocky palm]

oh yeah

i saw her 0 cycle kafka

looked a lot easier than my acheron clears lol

i think that was with tribbie though, who has her ||res pen||

[plain bluff]

Tribbie seems busted

[rocky palm]

i'm not interested in tribbie's kit at all so i'm defo skipping her

[plain bluff]

her LC especially

[rocky palm]

she seems busted for herta

[plain bluff]

yeah

[rocky palm]

i think she's kind of mid for other teams tbh

[plain bluff]

res pen is pretty good overall though

[rocky palm]

yeah

[plain bluff]

she'll probably scale well

with time

[rocky palm]

poor middei though

[plain bluff]

he needs some help

[rocky palm]

(/s cause he's my goat)

but yeah

[plain bluff]

the fate of all hp-scalers

in this game

[rocky palm]

did you see the one scathing review one of the testers left

[plain bluff]

I don't think that I did

what did they say?

all I've seen are a few showcases

and he looks relatively unimpressive in those

[rocky palm]

it was like a page talking about the devs being stupid and him having such glaring issues

i think his damage output is super good

but the issues seem to be that he just has trouble surviving

or staying in the mode

i think something cool they could do, at risk of lots of powercreep, could be letting him heal a bit

[plain bluff]

yeah

the auto-attacking seems annoying

since it randomly targets

[rocky palm]

i think they fixed that in v2 actually

p sure it's aoe now lol

[plain bluff]

oh

lol

I should probably read up on the v2 changes

but that's good

at least

[rocky palm]

there was basically nothing

the reason i say the aoe thing is cause they removed a part of his description saying adjacent targets

and it makes no sense for him to be single target now

i think his damage is quite good

it's a bit scary having like 5 dps' release back to back to back

herta, aglaea, mydei, castorice (presumably)

and maybe phainon after that

[plain bluff]

Castorice seems like a dps

I wonder how Anaxa will play

[rocky palm]

he had an animation leak earlier today

[plain bluff]

interesting

[rocky palm]

||https://www.rxddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1i6goue/hsr_31_boss_battle_helper_skill_via_flying_flame/||

[plain bluff]

Castorice and Phainon seem like the characters hoyo wants to sell

[rocky palm]

||if he's imaginary i'll die crying||

[plain bluff]

well, them and Herta

they're the Acheron and Firefly of Amphoreus

[rocky palm]

i'm hoping Phainon ends up being quite good

Cause he's the next one I'm going for

[plain bluff]

same

but

[rocky palm]

ehrm

acshaually

[plain bluff]

his banner will happen around the same time as the fate collab

[rocky palm]

aglaea is the FF of Amphoreus

[plain bluff]

which is scary

[rocky palm]

[rocky palm]

i think i'm okay skipping the collab tbh

[plain bluff]

that's fair

[rocky palm]

depending on the characters

[plain bluff]

Saber and Archer

probably

Archer is confirmed

and Saber would be a weird omission

I want to see the character's kits before deciding

but I'll probably go for at least one

unless they're both awful/outclassed

[rocky palm]

Too early to say tbh

We've no idea how hsr collabs may turn out yet lol

[plain bluff]

true

I'm just hoping there's a collab story

[rocky palm]

I legitimately thought Mydei was going to be Gilgamesh

And that's how they would do the collab

[plain bluff]

lol

he is pretty close to how gilgamesh would probably play

tbh

[rocky palm]

And looks identical

[plain bluff]

yep

[rocky palm]

Assuming Saber makes it in

An interaction between them could be quite funny

[plain bluff]

close enough

[rocky palm]

We have Gilgamesh at home

Tbh I like Mydei's design more

[plain bluff]

it's pretty solid

but a very clear reference to Gilgamesh

lol

even his personality is somewhat similar (from what little I've read of Amphoreus)

[rocky palm]

He's like Gilgamesh if Gilgamesh wasn't a dick

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-grand-order-babylonia-gilgamesh-laughing-gif-16416568110829300892

[rocky palm]

Really interesting character imo

[plain bluff]

well

Gilgamesh isn't always like that

it really depends

[reef elm]

oh i need to watch fate strange fake

[plain bluff]

it's pretty solid

if you like it, there's a manga series

and also a set of LNs

[lilac spire]

sorry my intrusive thoughts won out there

[humble citrus]

https://x.com/unfamousradish/status/1881790915536454089?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/unfamousradish/status/1881790915536454089

[fiery geyser]

||wtf, they’re adding alhaitham ||

[humble citrus]

@fiery geyser why did you angel dog react that....

[crisp birch]

No more sex alarm

[fiery geyser]

I might’ve been occupied with something else while reading it

finally have Chevy!

and clo is c3 now

[reef elm]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so arlechino still has that bug where if you swap to her and burst you can still get killed midburst

i hate hoyocerse now

[rocky palm]

first thing's first

this time, i'm maxxing out RMC

[humble citrus]

https://x.com/hinay_2/status/1881729127075680631?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/hinay_2/status/1881729127075680631

[humble citrus]

smol castorice

[rocky palm]

i liked her character a lot more than i thought i would ngl

[fiery geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/APQKgzw8MY

[west meteor]

https://vxreddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/APQKgzw8MY

[wicked gazelle]

this AS is kicking my ass

bug too stronk

[fiery geyser]

[lilac spire]

what bug

i like bugs

[fiery geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-swarm-swarm-king-gif-9039590034307680110

[lilac spire]

thats just wal marts version of sephiroths meteor

[reef elm]

They’ll be usable now yay

[fiery geyser]

💀

[rocky palm]

the evil stupid fucking evil bug that I FUCKING HATE

I remember dying to this bastard like 50 times

[lilac spire]

that should be an emote

[robust inlet]

I HATE THAT BOSS

i had to ask someone who was actually good at this game to give me a build for it

and then i still had to like

grind to level up al my characters

[rocky palm]

i'm convinced the devs added it to force people to level up

i was smashing content with my team right before that fight

[robust inlet]

that entire section of the game i was underleveled for

[rocky palm]

couldn't do anything past the first ovum of the fight lol

[robust inlet]

but the boss is the only one that actually forced me to level up

[lilac spire]

no fish 1 turn videos for the bug thing?

[rocky palm]

nope

no one watches fish videos so he does not make them anymore

(except when he wants to )

[robust inlet]

you know i hate the way these games work

the way upping your level enough makes every enemy's level go up

and then your characters are suddenly underpowered and you cant prepare for it early cause you cant level them up until after all the enemies get leveled up

[rocky palm]

yeah, i do kind of wish that some enemies stayed lower level

at the same time though it makes sense cause you want them to still be a challenge

[robust inlet]

yeah but like everything???

early game missions that you repeat should still be the same level they were

like in zenless zone zero when you do commissions, they're always at the current level, they arent easier or harder depending on how early you unlocked them

which i think is lame, id love to stockpile a bunch of unfinished commissions and then beat them easily later

[shrewd plinth]

https://vxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/1881914939130224668

Genshin's 5.4 special program is happening this Friday!

It's a week earlier than usual, likely due to Chinese New Year

[lilac spire]

i cant tell if thats a mullet or if its cloth

[rocky palm]

long hair

mullet is different

[lilac spire]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

[reef elm]

450 cd

[rocky palm]

yeah, kinda low i know

still working on getting a better pair of boots

[reef elm]

Smh not even 500

[rocky palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyoZhY7KtXo

I felt like making a video

[lilac spire]

:EvilStupidFuckingEvilBugThatEveryoneFuckingHates:

[fiery geyser]

Yeah, no one likes that stupid fucking bug

the only redeemable part about it is the music

[robust inlet]

and i dont even like the music

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

So, I just uploaded my Genshin pulls to Paimon.moe...
I just realised that, after the next 5 star, I also now have a high chance of getting Capturing Radiance since I've technically lost the last 3 50/50s...

The amount of luck is actually insane

anyway

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/126463379

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/126444152

[fiery geyser]

Jean at 1

[shrewd plinth]

Yep

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/neco_taya/status/1881638721403158843?mx=2

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/neco_taya/status/1881638721403158843

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

🔥

also did anyone have problems with credit card declining for Hoyo games recently?

[robust inlet]

seems like your problem is that you pay money

[muted tundra]

ended up solving it by paying through Google play store instead

[muted tundra]

finally won a 50/50 in Zenless

https://tenor.com/view/fenerbahçe-vitor-pereira-teknik-direktör-coach-flag-gif-22203161

[shrewd plinth]

Let's go!

[fiery geyser]

about to go for c6 clorinde

[shrewd plinth]

Oh damn

Good luck!

[fiery geyser]

I was joking (sorta)

[shrewd plinth]

dammit

[fiery geyser]

I probably could but while I can pull for a bit, guarantee’ing it is another problem

plus idk if it’d feel worth it after

[shrewd plinth]

I mean, any Fontaine character at C6 absolutely sweeps through content, though I could see that taking the fun out of things

[fiery geyser]

and if I’m gonna go that far, it’s better to do it on supports so everyone can get a boost instead of just clo

[reef elm]

When I first read this I was surprised Clorinde is so popular then I realize I almost get her if not for her being next to arle

I thought I would get her based on Fontaine teaser

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah for sure. I'd go for C6 Xilonen or Furina before anyone else if I had the option to C6 any 5 star.

[humble citrus]

Can I get y'alls opinions on the ZZZ main story quests so far? I did chapter 1 and i just don't like the cunning hares that much. Do they stay around? or is it a different faction each chapter

[reef elm]

Blasphemy

[humble citrus]

the only good hare is anby. i love her.

nicole and billy though...

nekomata.................................................

[reef elm]

https://youtu.be/76qtvw4xwQY?si=3jlwUjQQdR1UqmWW

[shrewd plinth]

I've only played up to chapter 3.5, but generally it's a new faction with each one though other faction characters do pop up in other ones

[reef elm]

Cunning hares are usually used as a device to introduce us to that faction

Except for police force and stars of lyra I think

[shrewd plinth]

Chapter 1 is Cunning Hares
Chapter 2 is Belobog
Chapter 2.5 is NEPS
Chapter 3 is the Sons of Calydon
Chapter 3.5 is Section 6

Not sure about 4 though, I didn't play that one

[rocky palm]

Incorrect actually

Belobog is chapter 1, though idk if I'd refer to them as chapters...

Never heard that used in HSR tbh

[reef elm]

Bronya mentioned

[shrewd plinth]

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/anby-zzz-zenlesszonezero-megalex-ihatekirby-gif-7201807597350044869

[humble citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-jane-doe-punch-jane-doe-gif-13225516018666324809

[rocky palm]

[rocky palm]

The stupid fucking rat that I lobr

[fiery geyser]

cursed rodent

[fiery geyser]

Chiori also, although she’s a different kind of support lol

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, true

C6 Chiori is busted

[fiery geyser]

fr fr

I always borrow one for the IT and she basically sweeps solo

[fiery geyser]

lowkey, her being combined with arlecchino (back on release and now) is cool

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/FWHYLCJcQn

[knotty latch]

I'll be honest, I felt the same. Nekomata was very annoying to me

[muted tundra]

I don't tolerate Billy hate here

[robust inlet]

well its kinda this but shifted down by one number

cunning hares is the prologue and everything else is -1

and chapter 3 (actually chapter 2) is victoria housekeeping co

[muted tundra]

cunning hares is technically prologue and chapter 1

you do the introductory missions and the Nekomatas arc with them

[shrewd plinth]

Oh right, forgot about Victoria

I haven't played the game in around a month, and that was after a 2 month-long break so I don't remember much to be honest

[robust inlet]

i havent played in a bit either tbh

i got miyabi and havent touched it since

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, same pretty much

[muted tundra]

my idea was to take a break to get POE2 but Miyabi honeymoon kept me in

[robust inlet]

i would get poe2 if it wasnt gonna come out for free later this year

[toxic rain]

Once again fellas I haven’t won a 50/50 since release

Lost astra

[muted tundra]

you'll get 7 Evelyns in one 10 pull trust

[crisp birch]

cap

they're all amazing

[robust inlet]

i disagree

[humble citrus]

They are! but there's only so much i can take, in terms of their attitude/presentation.

[robust inlet]

billy and anby are peak and nicole and nekomata suck

[crisp birch]

im not gonna accept this baseless nicole slander

[robust inlet]

billy is like a tokusatsu protagonist that doesnt realize he's the protagonist and loves tokusatsu

[robust inlet]

its not baseless

[crisp birch]

it is such

[robust inlet]

her design has a clear goal and its not something i think is good for designs to do

[crisp birch]

shes very cocky and overconfident, proudly and happily flaunting what shes got fits with her personality

[robust inlet]

and i dont like her personality

shes annoying and designed with the worst people in mind

[humble citrus]

So is jane, should she be removed from the game

[crisp birch]

not to mention her whole design is subverting expectations

[robust inlet]

even with that, there are other characters designed that way that do have interesting personalities

[crisp birch]

it doesnt give you the impression of a smart capable business woman

[robust inlet]

such as jane, she looks like that but her personality is actually pretty cool

beyond the facade of like

insane woman

[crisp birch]

insane?

where'd you get that

[robust inlet]

i dont know what other word to say

its like manipulative

[crisp birch]

yeah

shes an undercover agent

she gets information through any means she can exploit

through the weakenss of others

[robust inlet]

but beyond that she is a compelling character

[crisp birch]

average femme fatale character

[robust inlet]

oh yeah that was the word

or phrase i guess

[crisp birch]

yeah

nicole is a cunning hare in the most literal sense

makes you think one thing but is actually a different thing

same with anby, billy, and neko

[robust inlet]

true

honestly there arent many characters in this game i actually completely enjoy

theres always some problem

[crisp birch]

cant relate

[robust inlet]

and 90% of the time that problem is oversexualization

[crisp birch]

ive been having an absolute blast with the entire cast

[robust inlet]

cause thats a real problem with the game

[crisp birch]

even characters i dont like such as neko

[crisp birch]

i

sure?

outside of like a few characters i cant really name the problem

[robust inlet]

have you seen like, most of the female characters in the game

its crazy

[crisp birch]

unless being voluptious = oversexualized

[robust inlet]

thats not the problem as much as how much attention they bring to it

like caesar is fine

shes one of my favorite characters

[crisp birch]

they dont tho, unless its like zhu yuan's trailer or jane

[robust inlet]

and miyabi is my goat of course i dont have any problem with her

[crisp birch]

which although weird isnt atrocious to the likes of something like nikke

[robust inlet]

i just dont like it

[crisp birch]

sexualized yes, i wont deny that

but its not oversexualized outside of a select few

[reef elm]

Me when Astra Yao

[robust inlet]

its just weird and very catered towards an audience i dont like

the audience that would spend the most money

[crisp birch]

theres so much moreto the characters that you have to actively ignore most of it to have that be a problem

[crisp birch]

also???????????????

huh?!?!

shes not even the most sexualized character in this patch

[reef elm]

Bro the constant panty shots make me hate her

[crisp birch]

is this an in game thing? bc like i have no clue what you're talking about

[robust inlet]

theres so much more to the characters and i have to actively ignore all the sexualization to enjoy the characters

[reef elm]

Yeah even in overworks when you first met her you could see when at a normal camera angle sprinting

[crisp birch]

i dont know what to say tbh, it really is not that big of an issue

[crisp birch]

i dont recall tbh

[split zenith]

I have popped into a whole discussion

[robust inlet]

you just dont care about the issue, that doesnt mean its not an issue

[crisp birch]

i very much do

ive played this game since release

[robust inlet]

so have i

[crisp birch]

ive had this discussion many many MANY times

bc im constantly arguing against people claiming this to be a "gooner game" while ignoring literally everything about it besides the character designs

[robust inlet]

i dont think its that either

[split zenith]

Nah the real gooner game is Nikke

Has good story tho

[robust inlet]

but i dont like all the elements of it that are like that

[crisp birch]

gacha games are not the genre for you then tbh

bc they are all sexualized to an extent

[robust inlet]

the entire game isnt for weirdos but i dont like the parts of the game that are for weirdos

[crisp birch]

unless you play something like limbus

[robust inlet]

so its not a problem with gacha games its something that can be fixed by the individual games

[crisp birch]

limbus is very much not the standard

[robust inlet]

didnt say it was

[crisp birch]

it is the third game in a series of games, the only one to be gacha

[robust inlet]

i know

[crisp birch]

the first was a management sim

[robust inlet]

and the second is a roguelike deckbuilder or something like that

[crisp birch]

yes

[robust inlet]

i dont know and its not really relevant at all

[crisp birch]

it was built on a pre established identity from an already loyal fanbase

[robust inlet]

what im saying is that theres nothing stopping hoyo from just, not following the norm

[crisp birch]

idk how to tell you this but hoyo has very much become the norm

like this has been going on since genshin released

thats not even delving into hi3

[robust inlet]

doesnt mean it cant stop and i cant dislike it

[crisp birch]

you can dislike it sure but theres no reason to stop bc its not a horrendously gamebreaking issue

[robust inlet]

it doesnt break the game but it makes the fanbase a cesspool

its not like a mechanical issue but it is an issue

[crisp birch]

sure if you go looking for those people

most people i interact with abt the game are not complete deep end bikini mod degenerates

[robust inlet]

me neither

[crisp birch]

like between the worldbuilding

character diversity

banger ost/ep's

intense gameplay

[rocky palm]

personally the bangboo twerking vid was the breaking point for me

i can't play a game with that kind of degeneracy

[robust inlet]

i know you dont mean it like that, but "character diversity" sounds really funny talking about the gamemakers that never make a character with a skintone darker than snow

[crisp birch]

its just very much a very easily enjoyable game for a wide variety of people

[crisp birch]

they're chinese

you can only expect so much

[crisp birch]

more for me

[robust inlet]

if they do that because of the chinese government, they wouldnt be allowed to sexualize the characters so much either

[rocky palm]

it's not part of the government

it's just cultural

[crisp birch]

no they do it bc they're chinese

not the government

they're just racist

eastern culture is very racist

[rocky palm]

can't say i have personal experience with it but that is the prevailing thing i've heard

what duck said

[robust inlet]

that doesnt really make it okay

[crisp birch]

eastern culture has always preferred pale and fair skin and they will continue to in the future bc tradition doesnt change like here in the west

[rocky palm]

it doesn't, but there's no way to force them to change

[crisp birch]

never said it was

[rocky palm]

only way to protest it is to not play the game basically

[lilac spire]

feesh baited me so hard im about to leave this channel

[robust inlet]

?

[rocky palm]

whar

[crisp birch]

i stopped playing genshin because they took so much liberty in ntaking inspiration from the cultures, arts, and music of latam people but decided to leave those people behind, having only super light/barely tan characters

[robust inlet]

thats probably a good idea

is the actual darkest character just dehya

[rocky palm]

iirc the only dark-skinned character in hsr is arlan

and he's also the worst character in the game

[crisp birch]

darkest genshin character is a 1.x character, xinyan

[robust inlet]

oh i know her i think

[crisp birch]

and shes canonically disliked by people in liyue (not bc of her skin but cmon)

[robust inlet]

also yeah i think you're right

[robust inlet]

dude thats crazy

[crisp birch]

she also is one of the worst characters in the game

along with

candace

kaeya (starter character tbf)

cyno

dehya

yknow

all the "dark" ones

[robust inlet]

i feel like that part isnt really on purpose

who knows

i dont play genshin anyways i only play zenless

[rocky palm]

zenless has uhh

nekomata?

[crisp birch]

all of the dark characters in genshin suck

[crisp birch]

the literal gang member

ex gang member sorry

[knotty latch]

i think calling him the worst doesn't even scratch a surface

[robust inlet]

and uhhh

whats her name

the lady that runs blazewood

[crisp birch]

the npc's in hsr and zzz actually have melanin

[robust inlet]

i like her shes cool

[crisp birch]

not the playable ones tho

bc the playerbase is still chinese

its also why we get no masculine features on female characters

and why it took forever to get actual muscles on male characters

[robust inlet]

dehya has abs

[crisp birch]

barely

and no visible structure in her arms

[robust inlet]

yeah

its rough for people who want strong women it seems

[crisp birch]

beidou and dehya still suffice

and my goat shenhe

[robust inlet]

i like caesar shes cool

[crisp birch]

shes aight

anby supremacy tho

[robust inlet]

anby is cool

i like caesar more

and miyabi is just the best

shes so cool

[humble citrus]

i tabbed out and come back to 100+ messages, what did i miss

[muted tundra]

tbh I don't know if I like Miyabi because I like her character or its because she does truckloads of damage

[crisp birch]

yapping

[robust inlet]

from the moment i first saw her i knew "oh this is my favorite character" so i know its the first one

[humble citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[robust inlet]

then i got to play her trial version for story and events

[crisp birch]

miaybi is pretty peak

[robust inlet]

and she is so insanely fun

im glad shes fun cause otherwise id just have her for the sake of having my favorite character

[crisp birch]

miyabi goes on the peak pedestal with my other peak characters

[robust inlet]

but i get to actually play as her this way

[crisp birch]

soldier 11, anby, nicole, lycaon, and ofc zhu yuan

oh and asaba

honorable mention goes to anton

[muted tundra]

what about Lighter

[robust inlet]

what in the world is he doing there

[crisp birch]

hes aight

[robust inlet]

bro thinks hes on the team

[crisp birch]

being peak as he casually is

someone hasnt done his story quest

[robust inlet]

no because i hate him

i dont want to see him or hear him or be near him

so i dont do his story quest

tho tbf i dont do any story quests

[crisp birch]

[robust inlet]

they're a lot of cutscenes

[rocky palm]

at least you play the game

[robust inlet]

and less gameplay

[rocky palm]

my e1 burnice sitting in my account be like

[robust inlet]

do i

i occasionally grind for a new S rank that i want

but if theres nobody i want i just dont play the game at all

[rocky palm]

that's the same as me lol

[robust inlet]

and right now im taking a break cause i spent way too much time and energy grinding for miyabi

even though i do actually want astra

[rocky palm]

i want evelyn

for reasons i will not say bc it will make duck angry at me

[crisp birch]

fish i already know you're a gooner

[rocky palm]

ehrm

i'm not a gooner

i'm a fish

[crisp birch]

gooner fish

[robust inlet]

what reasons

[rocky palm]

https://tenor.com/view/evelyn-zzz-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-evelyn-gif-15939203259465778640

i'm deleting that in a minute

[reef elm]

You already know there will be a capeless mod

[rocky palm]

i'm sure there already is lmao