#Gacha hell

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humble citrus
fiery geyser
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where’s the cotw version

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reef elm
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Whoa

toxic rain
reef elm
fiery geyser
muted tundra
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toxic rain
rocky palm
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Make your bets

shrewd plinth
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The first two will go into Crit Rate and Crit Damage, the rest into Flat Attack

rocky palm
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it's not bad but it's not good compared to my current headpiece

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Cowboy actually built diff lmao

rocky palm
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My top score on Phanytylia side is 14 higher, I can break 7500 but might not be today

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I lied

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182 AV Phantylia side is pretty insane

plain bluff
rocky palm
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idek what changed cause I only made JQ slower

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only by 4 speed so it shouldn't have really affected anything anyways

fiery geyser
muted tundra
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ended up picking Mona

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but man it takes so long to get other characters up to speed

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, it definitely takes a while in the begining

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Once you get a stockpile of stuff gotten from events and quests, it gets a bit easier

shrewd plinth
muted tundra
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would you all recommend doing the quick start function for archon quests

shrewd plinth
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Nah, I wouldn't
While yes, you could get more rewards by completing the quests in the patch they're released, you'll be missing out on a bunch of story context. Assuming you care about the story, that is.

reef elm
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I wish I had mora and books

muted tundra
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how self contained are they

shrewd plinth
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Not very

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Natlan's already made references to the Fontaine arc and the Mondstadt Arc

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So you'll be missing out on a good bit of context if you don't do those

reef elm
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There are lore videos if you really want to skip the story

muted tundra
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is the double rewards for leyline event a common one

reef elm
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Yes

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, the double-reward events are usually once-per-patch

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Though they alternate between leylines and domains

muted tundra
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that's still fairly common

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I was getting anxious because of my low AR keeping me from getting good rewards

humble citrus
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maybe i should play faust bc damn im lucky

wicked gazelle
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for who?

humble citrus
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feixiao

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yeah she's shaping up to be really good

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just need the body and boots artifacts

wicked gazelle
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holy shit

humble citrus
humble citrus
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the head piece i kept on me just in case but the gloves i actually got lucky on

rocky palm
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finally a good acheron piece yippiefly

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that cr one is p insane

rocky palm
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Have more clear goals now

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Either I get ridiculously lucky on some cr rolls for the 3 relics that still need to be replaced, OR I swap cd chest to cr chest and get lucky cd rolls on the last 3 relics

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Goal is firmly 66/250 minimum now though, cause it's 100% attainable with some luck

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Luckily planar event is on Monday so I've got a chance to get a good orb/rope then

rocky palm
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If I could get this luck with Diver, Acheron would've been done months ago

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Good for Herta at least

rocky palm
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Can't remember who else has Boothill in here rn, but if you want to take a shot at emulating my run...

wicked gazelle
fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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humble citrus
fiery geyser
rocky palm
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I'm having that issue with Acheron rn where I was aiming for cd chest and cr substats but I keep getting the opposite

wicked gazelle
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if i get lc ill have 95% cr and i think thats ok for now

rocky palm
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oh yeah that's great

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damn you got some mad cr substats then

reef elm
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I think I’ll be near 100% cr once I get c1 of Acheron

rocky palm
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e1 + 4 pc diver + 2pc izumo means you only need 66% cr

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less if you have sparkle lc

reef elm
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I have 59% according to HoYoLAB

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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ah

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salsotto helps

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Duran is still her bis but it's not by too much iirc

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wind orb is preferable but next to impossible to get without resin so shrug

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v nice build though

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i have 2 good relics on her and the rest are pretty meh

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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i gave up on lightning orb ngl

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Found it was still giving a negligible damage increase vs atk orb even with Robin ult up

wicked gazelle
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yeah iirc you still want atk%

rocky palm
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it's just whichever gives better substats

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but lightning orb is way harder to get in the first place

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rn i'm hoping to get a cr chest with >20% cd, and then I have to get a decent planar pair

wicked gazelle
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ah see im hoping for a cd chest with 20% cr

rocky palm
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tis impossible i'm afraid

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max substat you can get should be 18 I think

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it's roughly half of the chest equivalent of the stat

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34~ish for cd substat, 16~ish for cr

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with slightly higher or lower values depending on if you got high or low rolls into the substat

reef elm
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Btw how bad is this

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
reef elm
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Always fun hitting 33k lol

plain bluff
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in stance

rocky palm
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Ooo

plain bluff
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75% from memory

rocky palm
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I did not realize it was that much MayNervous

plain bluff
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oh, it's 50%

rocky palm
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JQ got moved up to .5 for MoC yippiefly

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If there ever comes to be a sustain that can apply def shred...

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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He's the best rn but he's also too valuable for Feixiao StupidFuckingCryingDog

fiery geyser
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yeah StupidFuckingCryingDog

rocky palm
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I'm also wondering if they'll ever release a nihility/debuffer sustain, considering JQ is a canonical healer and still didn't have anything in his kit about that StupidFuckingBaby

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obviously there are sustains with debuffs rn, but i mean one that particularly focuses on applying debuffs

fiery geyser
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it might be awhile since technically, aven has it but it’s behind an e2

rocky palm
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Too expensive for me tbh

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Especially since I'll still be using him with Feixiao for the most part

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Since JQ didn't get the supposed ||"heal on DOT"|| thing, there's a non-zero chance it's being saved for a DOT support in the future

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I don't think it'll be too far till we get a debuff focused sustain though, DOT has been aching for a new noteworthy support for a while and sustain is the only role that's not really fulfilled yet

plain bluff
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HuoHuo is probably the closest thing

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since her buffs are the most applicable for DoT teams

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out of all of the sustains

rocky palm
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true

lilac spire
fiery geyser
rocky palm
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Finally

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It finally happened

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Got this from the double event

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P happy with it, doubt I'll get anything better but still need the rope so we'll see

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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Speed boots seeming v possible rn

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Although the attack is pretty low

fiery geyser
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You do have robin/sparkle to help you out

rocky palm
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Robins not really on the table anymore

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Sadly

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She's stuck with Feixiao now

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And I get bored way too fast when I use sparkle StupidFuckingCryingDog

fiery geyser
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muted tundra
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would you reckon Grace is getting powercrept now

toxic rain
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Finally an electro dps

mortal osprey
rocky palm
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every one of my relics is basically 3 rolls into cd, 1 or 0 rolls into cr lol

wicked gazelle
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Feesh stealing my relics

mortal osprey
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give StupidFuckingDemonDog

rocky palm
rocky palm
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I got 2 attack ropes total, out of all 12 double planars

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*from izumo set

plain bluff
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what's your cr?

rocky palm
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32 rn but that's because I'm trolling and maximizing cd for funny

plain bluff
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fair enough

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1/3rd of the time is all the time

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if you get lucky

rocky palm
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with a cr chest i have 59/238

plain bluff
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ah

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and that goes up

rocky palm
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and boots still need to be replaced

plain bluff
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since you have e1

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and diver + izumo

rocky palm
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yeah

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with e1 + izumo + diver you only need 66% cr

plain bluff
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I'm probably going to go for E1/2 next rerun

rocky palm
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e2 broken beyond belief, though I won't lie

plain bluff
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getting to 95%+ cr on Acheron with decent crit damage is such a pain

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without the free 18%

rocky palm
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JQ is a better investment than e2 imo

plain bluff
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he is, but it'll be a while

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before he comes back

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probably

rocky palm
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yeah

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if you have the funds and want to i'd still recommend e2

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it's broken

plain bluff
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||just need to see how good Sunday is||

rocky palm
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||praying for hypercarry support, or break support||

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||if the energy thing is true though then he'll be kind of wasted on acheron||

plain bluff
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||it'd be kind of interesting if he could store stacks||

rocky palm
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||if that ends up being a thing he can do then he's broken for her||

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||imagine a literal back to back ult with acheron||

plain bluff
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||seems balanced||

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||Feixiao being able to do that is absurd enough already||

rocky palm
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||brain in a vat personified||

plain bluff
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||but Acheron's ult is miles better||

rocky palm
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||Feixiao's is pretty damn good but yeah in terms of pure nuclear ability acheron's pulls ahead||

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||She also doesn't have a "true" team comp yet. JQ is the one support that's made for her, the other two characters don't generally contribute a whole ton||

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||So once she gets more characters that synergize well her ult uptime will go through another explosion phase||

plain bluff
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||and she was already t0 without JQ||

rocky palm
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||tbh I was going to agree with Prydwen moving her down to t.5 before JQ came out||

plain bluff
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||it was really just a matter of MoC and AS not really favoring lightning||

rocky palm
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||a lot of the MoC buffs weren't benefitting her a whole ton but she was also having a tough time in terms of keeping ult and debuffs up||

plain bluff
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||for 2 patches in a row||

rocky palm
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that too

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actually why are we still spoilering this part lol

plain bluff
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true

rocky palm
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There are still some people in the acheron subreddit who decry JQ's usefulness and stuff but they undervalue the consistency he provides

plain bluff
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people still say that?

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even outside of his consistent debuffs

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his def shred is very valuable

rocky palm
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Pela can cause a greater amount of damage but JQ uptime makes every hit more worthwhile, and increases ult uptime by a ton

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Does vulnerability do the same thing as def shred?

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Idk all the calcs

plain bluff
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they stack on top of each other

rocky palm
plain bluff
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I think

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that's why running Pela & JQ is really good

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or Pela & Gui

rocky palm
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If i had pearls i'd probably use pela more

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As it is though, I have to use her skill to inflict debuffs

plain bluff
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wasn't pearls on this LC banner?

rocky palm
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which is too expensive in terms of SP

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probably, i got the lc too early though

plain bluff
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suffering from success

rocky palm
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literally

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i also don't like pela that much being honest

plain bluff
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agreed

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but her utility is too much to pass up on for some compositions rn

rocky palm
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i'd rather just run JQ and wait for a good harmony or sustain

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she's really good for 0 cycles

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she's good for Boot too but JQ performs about the same or better

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JQ was such a good pull for my account because of that

plain bluff
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it's impressive how good he is

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despite getting nerfed 5 times during the beta

rocky palm
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I didn't even realize he would benefit Boothill until I saw a 0 cycle using Acheron and Boot on the same team

rocky palm
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i can understand why they did it now

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Acheron is causing actual problems in terms of balancing other nihility units now lol

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they can't make nihility units too strong bc then acheron gets too much of a buff

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and that sucks cause nihility units were already fairly inferior to harmony units in terms of their damage increases

plain bluff
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yep

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they're probably going to make more DoT characters

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or a dedicated support for DoT

rocky palm
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imagine a support that can AA enemies or something

plain bluff
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that'd allow them to introduce new nihility characters w/o buffing Acheron too much

rocky palm
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yeah

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still hopeful for nihility healer someday

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nihility shielder sounds too far fetched imo

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||non-zero chance that Obsidian is a physical abundance debuffer though||

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||basing that entirely off her being a vampire unit that causes bleed btw||

plain bluff
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||a lifesteal debuff could be interesting||

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or something like that

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I think that Gallagher already has that

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though

rocky palm
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it's getting a little tricky in regards to the debuff stuff tbh

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cause JQ dominates the enemy turn phase now

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so every other support for acheron needs to focus debuff gain on the ally turn section

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and idk how they would do that outside of just making another character that inflicts debuffs with basic/skill/ult

plain bluff
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if they made a 5* Pela (outside of SW)

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that'd really help

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but it'd probably also push Acheron over the edge

rocky palm
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yeah

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I could see them doing something that's kind of interrim of ally and enemy turns

plain bluff
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I don't think that they'll buff Acheron's stack gain any further

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to be honest

rocky palm
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i.e. ally hits enemy and inflicts their own debuffs, which triggers something on the enemy that again applies a debuff

plain bluff
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they probably don't want her to fire off ults consistently

rocky palm
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that's a fair point

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you think they'll just increase her damage then?

plain bluff
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maybe

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or they could create a support that stores extra stacks

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among other things

rocky palm
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what other things do you think they could add?

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I can't really come up with anything beyond the stack storing

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though they might be hesitant to add that given acheron and feixiao are already able to do that

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still v possible though

plain bluff
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stack storing + action advance would be really helpful

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maybe a cr buff as well

rocky palm
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i figure they'll probably start turning some of the SU blessings into character kits at some point

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to a less broken degree though

rocky palm
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I'm not sure that people value it as much as they should

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That's one of my big wishes for Boothill

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It's unlikely that he ever gets a custom support bc hoyo hates him StupidFuckingCryingDog but if he does, AA on kill would be such a nice thing

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basically a powercrept version of bronya

plain bluff
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Yunli exists (as a powercrept version of Clara)

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so that's definitely possible

rocky palm
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call me coping but I still don't think Yunli powercrept Clara by that much in terms of performance

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Not saying that Yunli is bad, but Clara has a pretty absurd kit for a standard character

plain bluff
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yep

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and Yunli's LC

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is a big buff for her

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as well

rocky palm
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Yunli's lc is huge

plain bluff
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being able to act on enemy turns is a massive privilege

rocky palm
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Makes her get 2 turn ults most of the time, which is exactly what she wants

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I really need to finish building her

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And preferably get e6 Tingyun as well

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I have e3 or something and that has all been on off-banner rolls 💀

plain bluff
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all of mine have been from the standard banner

rocky palm
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what e* do you have?

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also wtf

plain bluff
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2

rocky palm
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TY has same base speed as Feixiao

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???

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She fast af

plain bluff
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foxian privilege

rocky palm
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meanwhile, JQ with 98 base speed: StupidFuckingCryingDog

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getting him to 161 and 140% EHR was simultaneously harder and easier than I thought

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Had to get 63 speed from substats and boots while also getting ~80% EHR

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ooo

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had a thought actually

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one thing i could see with them increasing acheron stack gain

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if they ever make a counter sustain

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aventurine kind of does that but also not really

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Acheron hits for close to 1.3 mil in the training room now StupidFuckingAnglDog

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That's without max stacks on JQ's ult too

humble citrus
rocky palm
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i mean

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idk if Tingyun WANTED to ||go nep snack||

humble citrus
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i mean in terms of the writers putting her on that situation, why can’t she just be happy

rocky palm
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ah

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true StupidFuckingCryingDog

humble citrus
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it would be really funny if she || comes back as a destruction character ||

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||”yeah i learned a thing or two it is what it is” ||

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but idk what they could do

rocky palm
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So I've been doing some refining using my existing relics

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This is going to be my "Robin" build

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Speed boots instead of atk boots which lets me get to 143 during Robin's ult, then the ult makes up for the lack of attack

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I still have to come up with a non-Robin build, which will require some more fine-tuning

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Especially if there's a new hypercarry support I ever want to build around

wicked gazelle
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i can clear AS side 2 but not side 1

rocky palm
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Or just not clearing it fast enough

wicked gazelle
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dying

rocky palm
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what team are you using

wicked gazelle
rocky palm
wicked gazelle
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6!

rocky palm
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hmm

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i'm surprised you're dying then ngl

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what lc/be he got

wicked gazelle
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i need to buff jade and feix

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100% mult tho

rocky palm
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and healing chest?

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maybe aventurine hits really hard, i get to ignore his side cause boothill

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is Feixiao able to one shot kill the dice

fiery geyser
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Yeah, it’s kinda iffy for gally

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i did a run with gally instead of aven and came close to dying a couple of times

wicked gazelle
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its rough

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i thinki kill dice

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i just dont have the damage to kill aven

rocky palm
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it's kind of tough with this team

wicked gazelle
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yes to healing chest

rocky palm
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i might suggest swapping out bronya for another harmony

wicked gazelle
wicked gazelle
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youre funny feesh

rocky palm
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no other harmony?

wicked gazelle
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sparkle is with ach

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and ting is unbuilt

rocky palm
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dang

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what speed is your gally at

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and what kind of issues are leading to you dying

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like is gallagher not getting his ult up at all, is aven hitting too much

wicked gazelle
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speed might be too low

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under 130

rocky palm
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i'm a big advocate for 161 speed gally

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it's p hard to get though

wicked gazelle
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yeah

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i only had pela at 161 speed

plain bluff
wicked gazelle
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yeah

lilac spire
rocky palm
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@wicked gazelle do you have hunt march built

wicked gazelle
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n ope

rocky palm
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damn

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I got a clear with Feixiao Gally HMarch Herta

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Obviously there are some differences but I think it's definitely possible

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Could you post your Gally stats though? I'm not sure why you'd be dying, I only came close to death once and it was when Feixiao got targeted 3x in a row

reef elm
rocky palm
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so you'll probably want to spend a little time building HMarch, then replace Jade with her

plain bluff
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surprised they changed that

rocky palm
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maybe it's imaginary as well

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HMarch isn't there for damage tho

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she's there to buff Feixiao + give stacks

plain bluff
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fair enough

rocky palm
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He has 40% fire, quantum, and imaginary res

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I'm also gonna come out and say it

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Damn, Feixiao kind of sucks without Robin bruh

plain bluff
plain bluff
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I tried it out the other day

plain bluff
rocky palm
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I'm trying to emulate how Zyx can run it, he's using Sparkle on Acheron

plain bluff
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he resists Topaz and March

rocky palm
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Moze ain't that good on this side imo

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He swaps around too much, uses up sp from time to time

plain bluff
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the dice don't have any resistances as well

rocky palm
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doesn't get his AA too frequently either

plain bluff
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so March/Topaz work

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fairly well

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anyways

rocky palm
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oh cool

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This fight does seem made for Boothill the more and more I play with different teams though

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He fucks on this stage

plain bluff
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March doesn't have a target-lock mechanic, right?

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Topaz has Numby and Moze has his skill, but I don't think that March has anything like that

rocky palm
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She attacks whoever Feixiao attacks

plain bluff
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that's very convenient

rocky palm
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yep

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The run I did was 90% damage from Feixiao and the rest in very small increments from HMarch

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Still got 3300 tho

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Robin is so busted it's unbelievable

plain bluff
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it really is

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and it only gets better

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with E1

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the fact that they gave her 24% res pen is genuinely absurd

rocky palm
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"what does Robin need in her e1 to make her stronger..."
"what if we gave her Ruan Mei's ult?"
"fantastic idea"
- the devs

plain bluff
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to be fair

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her old E1

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was even more busted

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it's what her E6 is rn

fiery geyser
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they didn’t want dps robin to be that obtainable

rocky palm
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oh wow

fiery geyser
wicked gazelle
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might try swapping the teams

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phantallia seems easier

fiery geyser
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The flowers do heal you on death so sustain is a little less important

rocky palm
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you don't need a sustain at all as long as you can kill the destruction blooms

wicked gazelle
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:grief:

rocky palm
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at least you managed to clear aven side

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what changed?

wicked gazelle
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relics i think

humble citrus
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got boots for feixiao from the synthesize after doing some planar event farming

fiery geyser
rocky palm
fiery geyser
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It might be a little reliant though on ice weakness + RM ult needs to be up for the petal debuff on hit

rocky palm
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Eh, isn't as necessary for me

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I have JQ

fiery geyser
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true

rocky palm
fiery geyser
fiery geyser
reef elm
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The wait for xilonen is long

fiery geyser
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just 2 more weeks

shrewd plinth
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Just need to wait faster

fiery geyser
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these 14 days should pass by like nothin

shrewd plinth
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Fortunately I've got Lingsha to hold me over next week

fiery geyser
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You’ve got guaranteed, right?

reef elm
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I’ll just be playing magic

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
reef elm
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Oh I guess there’s a zzz update today too

fiery geyser
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The 🐀 is going away StupidFuckingCryingDog

reef elm
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Beeg
Damage

fiery geyser
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there’s also a shop reset after this week iirc

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just in time StupidFuckingAnglDog

shrewd plinth
reef elm
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Wonder how her team will improve tho

fiery geyser
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for TheRat ?

reef elm
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Ye

fiery geyser
reef elm
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So sweet

toxic rain
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I hope they show wuwa for the ps showcase today

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😩😩😩

muted tundra
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finally

toxic rain
reef elm
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I want lighter

toxic rain
reef elm
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lol

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I just recently got every four star in the game

toxic rain
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Took me forever to get one Lucy and I got her when she wasn’t even on rate up💀

reef elm
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Yeah she was my last 4 star as well think it was standard

muted tundra
toxic rain
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When yae miko fineass coming back

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I want chlorinde

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So you’re telling me if I was playing at the time of her banner I could’ve gotten her and her weapon in like 20 pulls instead of Emile and her weapon ain’t that some shit? 🤣

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These fucking ambiguous gachas on god

muted tundra
fiery geyser
wicked gazelle
rocky palm
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Blade's ult is so sick

plain bluff
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Blade himself is so sick

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with mara

fiery geyser
wicked gazelle
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Just you wait

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There's gonna be an infinite mode and blade will be tier -1

plain bluff
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yet another mode where Aventurine is top tier

muted tundra
mortal osprey
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I use 300 charge on exp items

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It gets soldier 11 from 55 to 58

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This lategane grind might be the worst in Hoyo games as a whole

toxic rain
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Everytime I play hsr or zzz as a low level I always farm xp until I can actually build my character

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That being said that shit becomes non existent and drained in seconds

rocky palm
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Like building a team for survivial rather than damage

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It wouldn't work very well, but could potentially be interesting

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As long as it's not that stupid "revive and get 50 energy every time you die" thing again

toxic rain
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Then those fucking boss materials wtf

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Atleast now they’re unlimited but we get one per refresh after initially using our three free ones idk when that goes live though

wicked gazelle
fiery geyser
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dps Gallagher

plush siren
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Is ZZZZZ any good?

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Almost done with the Path to Nowhere story and im considering

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Also is it like on steam or smt

fiery geyser
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Hoyo launcher

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HoyoPlay iirc

toxic rain
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MODERATOR COMMANDS U

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Let me be cringe 💀

plush siren
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Lets hear the sales pitch

toxic rain
muted tundra
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its basically Genshins rotational combat made into its own game

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though the combat run way smoother imo

plush siren
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I dont play genshin so idk what that means

muted tundra
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you're basically playing with 3 characters that cover certain niches

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stunner, buffer, damage dealer etc.

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and you control one each time and swap out between the team, so you mostly worry about figuring out the optimal rotations

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so like stunner>damage buffing support>DPS

rocky palm
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idk how clear cut genshin's combat is but imo it feels like a hack and slash a lot of the time

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which isn't bad, but I don't understand anything going on in combat and I can still get wins

muted tundra
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I'm gonna go slander ZZZ a bit

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I think its too easy a lot of the time

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a lot of cool stuff you can do basically have close to no execution barrier

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which is desirable for a mobile game but I feel the gameplay is a little shallow for a game you can play in a PC

toxic rain
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So y’all are pitching wuwa to this guy

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Play Wuthering waves if you want more depth in combat

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Ps5 port when I’m waiting 😩😩😩

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Tokyo game show tomorrow PLEASSE KURO LOCK IN

muted tundra
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tbh you should play a paid hack and slash if you want good combat

toxic rain
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Stellar blade

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😩😩😩

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Gooner Blade

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Cultured blade more like it

plush siren
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Whaat the hell zzz runs on mobile damn

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Im hesitant to play a triple A gacha, because thats two strikes

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Ill think about it though

muted tundra
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I think its fine if you play for an hour or two

plush siren
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Set a timer for 120 minutes and than delete it and never think about it again?

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I mean that’s reasonable

muted tundra
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per day

plush siren
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Oh I dont play any games for that stretch normally

muted tundra
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you can play more casually too, but you should know that gacha games don't really respect your time that much

plush siren
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The others I play are Path to Nowhere and Limbus, and those aren’t too bad in that sense Ig?

plush siren
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Is it worse in ZZZ?

rocky palm
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Hitting 913k without HMC is truly a wild thing

humble citrus
reef elm
toxic rain
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Imma tag u when it comes out I got you bro

reef elm
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did a ten pull on thirty pity

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got caesar

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genuinely spooked me

toxic rain
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You deserve it

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||Mods put him down||

shrewd plinth
#

To the new Cauldron Master of the Xianzhou Luofu, everyone has their own unique scent. We invite Master Lingsha on this program to answer a question: How should we become a fine-smelling Intellitron? Her generous answer: "Be charitable and few of vices... But most importantly, shower."
Thank you for tuning in to this special Interastral Peace En...

▶ Play video
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Also, Genshin 5.1 Livestream is this Friday!

rocky palm
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Hadn't really looked at her kit that closely, this vid does a good job of explaining it

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also ig this is confirmation that the english voice actors are tabled bc of the strikes

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it's kind of funny that they showcase lingsha w/ QQ in the first vid, considering Guoba states QQ is one of the worst synergies bc of sp issues lol

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She seems p good though

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Definitely the JQ equivalent for FF

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i might've been tempted to pull for her if running her with Boothill wasn't going to be a nightmare in terms of sp management

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even with RM sig I don't think there will be enough to go around

jaunty badger
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oh aleks lee is lighter

reef elm
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Cool

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Must pull

rocky palm
rocky palm
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Pretty interesting precedent being set

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Seems like these leakers may have been too public with their stuff

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But it could potentially scare all hoyo leakers to stop?

fiery geyser
muted tundra
muted tundra
muted tundra
muted tundra
fiery geyser
toxic rain
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Archon story quest ||wasn’t good wasn’t bad paimon talked a bit less I enjoyed it||

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Also didn’t feel like I had to do Fontaine to understand it didn’t really ruin the experience and when I do Fontaine with the little things I can just piece together no big deal

fiery geyser
fiery geyser
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nuclear bomb preparation

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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Soon™️

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
humble citrus
stark salmon
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Lighter from zzz is k' and I might start playing zzz again MayThisIsFine

rocky palm
shrewd plinth
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I've not seen too many yet, but she's pretty much what expected. Gallagher with more AoE and way more consistant/comfortable healing which is more than enough for me!

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While SP may be an issue, I do plan to get E1 Firefly eventually so that'll mitigate it

rocky palm
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I've heard conflicting things about her sp

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Some people say it's not bad, others say it's v bad, others say she's positive

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Beginning to think no one actually knows...

shrewd plinth
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Bare minimum, you need to use her skill whenever her Fu Yuan points are at 1/0

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Which roughly results in a Skill/Basic/Basic rotation, making her slightly positive

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If you want her to deal max damage though, you want to skill as much as possible

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Since it advances Fu Yuan and deals more AoE Toughness Damage

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So it's a case-by-case basis

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As far as I understand, anyway

shrewd plinth
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Wrong small pink thing with the first name 'Fu' and the last 3 letters of their last name being 'uan'

reef elm
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That’s not confusing at all

fiery geyser
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FX

rocky palm
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FX, FX, and FY

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Fu Xuan got powercrept StupidFuckingCryingDog

shrewd plinth
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So, I finally got round to levelling my relics for Pela
She now has 1000 DEF exactly

reef elm
rocky palm
shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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I need powercreep Bronya to come out soon StupidFuckingCryingDog

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I want to have 250 speed too StupidFuckingCryingDog StupidFuckingCryingDog

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I wonder if they'll release upgraded versions of all the standard characters

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Aventurine isn't as 1-1 to Gepard as Yunli and Clara but there are some similarities there I think

humble citrus
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or a debuff that reduced effect res for welt to inflict more imprison

rocky palm
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I wonder if we'll ever get another character able to do revives

rocky palm
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Ehrm

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she does not buff Boothill v much

fiery geyser
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you do have e1 though which works on break

rocky palm
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true

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i forgor about that

fiery geyser
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bronya, boot, robin, RM

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BBRR

humble citrus
reef elm
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Who currently can

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Just bailu?

humble citrus
rocky palm
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brrrrrr

fiery geyser
rocky palm
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@shrewd plinth

fiery geyser
fiery geyser
reef elm
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anime when

rocky palm
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Boothill and Acheron have ridiculuous synergy

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Was getting 2 ults a turn practically along with JQ and RM

wicked gazelle
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shes getting there

humble citrus
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I want to run the same thing but im getting new artifacts for jade.

wicked gazelle
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Yep! With her she gets to 146 speed without boots and even higher with e2 bronya

toxic rain
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Idk if y’all got ayato but I 10/10 recommend he’s satisfying to play

shrewd plinth
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Ah yeah, I've played his trial version in events before and he seems really fun!

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Though he's definitely not high on my priority list on reruns to pull on

toxic rain
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That’s fair

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I have jade cutter on him rn since ayaka doesn’t really need it

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It’s not entirely different from the black sword dmg wise but it does give u that extra dps to kill

shrewd plinth
toxic rain
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When y’all think the fire archon coming out

fiery geyser
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After xilonen probably

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unless they jumpscare us with chasca or iansan

reef elm
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Since there is no 5.2 archon quest probably 5.3

shrewd plinth
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Yeah, I think 5.3 as well

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Since Xilonen is the only new 5 star of 5.1, and there's no Archon Quest update in 5.2

shrewd plinth
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Less than 2 weeks remain, here's my current Xilonen funds (plus 70 pity)

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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What can I say, I'm dedicated

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If it's any consolation, the majority of those are from exploration

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Since that's basically all I've been doing for about half of the past few weeks

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and I may or may not of broken my F2P status to get a Welkin and a Battlepass to get like, 15 more, but that's besides the point

fiery geyser
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p2w??!

shrewd plinth
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For her, it's worth it

fiery geyser
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nah but fr tho, those are probably the best things you can get money wise

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welkin especially

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
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Yeah, I know. I only spent £15 and I don't intend to spend any more than this, at least at any point in the near future

fiery geyser
muted tundra
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Welkin is the one month login thing right?

reef elm
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Ah I forgot to login yesterday oops

shrewd plinth
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It works out to ~15 pulls

muted tundra
#

actually was considering to purchase that in couple of weeks

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I want to see how if I can reliably login to Genshin while attending school first

shrewd plinth
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Sounds like a solid idea!
If you are gonna grab anything, then the Welkin is the best value thing you can get so it's the best thing you can pick up

muted tundra
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yeah they want to push people into welkin and the battle pass from what I observe

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everything else is pretty bad value

shrewd plinth
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Yup...

fiery geyser
muted tundra
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is there a chart or something that gives tldrs on characters niches in genshin

fiery geyser
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Is there someone you’re interested in?

muted tundra
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there are some characters toolkits that I want to know

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most of them are 4 stars

fiery geyser
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I think the closest would probably be keqing mains (or KQM)

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there’s usually a summary of what each character does, their pros/cons, builds, etc.

shrewd plinth
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And may be a little too confusing

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For example, Freminet is a recent 4 star on-field DPS that can be built for Physical Damage, Cryo Damage, focused around the Shatter reaction (don't do this), or fit in the flext slot of a Hyperbloom team

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So he'd fit into 4 archetypes/niches all by himself, and the majority of characters are like this as well

fiery geyser
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LMAO, the shatter comment 😭GRIEF

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it’s so true tho

shrewd plinth
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Buff Shatter Hoyo

fiery geyser
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please actually, giving up freeze for shatter is like the worst trade possible

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@muted tundra what were the 4 stars you had in mind?

muted tundra
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one character I was thinking of was Sucrose for example

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and was wondering if there was any other chars that do similar things to her

fiery geyser
#

The closest comparison is probably Kazuha

shrewd plinth
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Yup, the main difference between her and Kazuha is that she buffs EM instead of DMG%

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And she takes up less field time overall as well

fiery geyser
#

she is slightly harder to use though

muted tundra
#

do you want to use her if you have Kazuha

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
#

like Kazuha skill and burst are just deployed wherever he is so you have complete control over that stuff

Whereas sucrose targeting might make a skill/burst miss from time to time

shrewd plinth
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Plus Sucrose's Crowd Control isn't as good as Kazuha unless you have C1 and/or Sacrifical Fragments so you can use her skill more than once at a time

fiery geyser
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true StupidFuckingAnglDog GRIEF

shrewd plinth
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But overall, she's pretty interchangeable and can work anywhere Kazuha could work

muted tundra
#

is Kazuha worth it if you have Sucrose then?

shrewd plinth
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Yep! Mainly because he's easier to use, provides DMG% which is more widely wanted/needed than EM, and also has a bit of value in the overworld as well

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I guess the best way to put it is that he's much more generalised

fiery geyser
#

worst case scenario, you could also use Kazuha on one side and sucrose on the other

shrewd plinth
muted tundra
#

I know a lot of limited characters are in "worth it" territory for my account but I'm just trying to figure out the meta of the game for now

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I wanna pull for characters I can use somewhat effectively later on

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like in couple of months

reef elm
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Archons for sure

shrewd plinth
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Kazuha's definitely a safe bet, as he can fit into a bunch of teams

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One thing I would do though is figure out what teams you want to/can put together and work towards two specifically.
For example I have Clorinde Quickbloom (Clorinde/Fischl/Furina/Baizhu) and Navia Double Pyro (Navia/Kachina/Bennet/Dehya)
With these teams in mind, it gives me a better idea of what characters benefit my account more than others. For example Xilonen might be able to replace Kachina, someone like Raiden, Yae or Kuki could replace Fischl, etc.

muted tundra
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I might need to check some limited characters synergies soon to plan out my account soon

fiery geyser
# muted tundra I know a lot of limited characters are in "worth it" territory for my account bu...

This is super condensed so don’t take it super seriously, but the 5 star meta is probably something like:

DPS — Neuvillette, Arlecchino, Alhaitham, Navia, Lyney, Hu Tao, Xiao (needs some premium investment though), Childe

Support/Buffer/sub DPS — Kazuha, Furina, Nahida, Raiden (well she’s more like a DPS/support hybrid), Baizhu, Kokomi, Yelan, Cloud Retainer

“Niche” teams but very powerful — Emilie, Nilou

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I also forgot to mention kinich and mualani for dps, but they kinda have the problem right now with awkward team options

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They’ll prolly go hard when the pyro archon comes out though

muted tundra
#

their synergies probably hasn't released yet

fiery geyser
#

yeah

muted tundra
#

the game handles powercreep in a pretty interesting manner

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it mostly works like photography and art

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
#

Ooh yeah, I forgot about her StupidFuckingCryingDog

muted tundra
#

they exist together without replacing one and other most of the time

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but strictly main-DPS characters seem to get shafted a lot from what I observe

fiery geyser
#

that’s usually how it goes like in gacha

muted tundra
#

in my background everything gets powercrept lmao

fiery geyser
#

FEH?

muted tundra
#

yeah...

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FEH reruns are a scam lmao

fiery geyser
muted tundra
#

Genshin also has the plus side of having no competitive modes

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you don't get rewards from your clear times or something while getting ranked

fiery geyser
#

Yeah, that helps a lot

Also old 4 stars and dendro are super strong, so F2P teams can still clear stuff in the meantime while waiting for character banners

rocky palm
muted tundra
#

FEH has multiple competitive modes with its own metas😭

fiery geyser
#

💀

muted tundra
#

it also makes the game new player friendly for the wrong reasons

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
#

new characters also get like a ton of traits/perks compared to old ones, right

muted tundra
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because older units suck and you have to get newer ones regardless lmao

fiery geyser
muted tundra
#

one of the most used characters is Felix, and his best stuff is locked to him

fiery geyser
#

no one else can use it?

muted tundra
#

yeah

fiery geyser
#

that sounds StupidFuckingDmonDog

muted tundra
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you can't give his stuff to your favorite unit

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sometimes some characters gets buffs though

muted tundra
#

which ends them up with their weapon descriptions doubling in length😭

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but you have to use unique resources for them as well

fiery geyser
#

So you need more pulls

muted tundra
#

you don't buff them with pulls thankfully

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resource can only be used to buff them specifically

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and you can grind them over time

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sometimes they make some lower rarity units legit meta too

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but you can't really bank on that, its more reliable to get new limited units

fiery geyser
#

gotcha RobinNoted StupidFuckingCryingDog

muted tundra
#

main draws of pulling is mostly your enjoyment of characters instead of game making it so that you actually need them to clear stuff

shrewd plinth
#

Yup! Also to make things easier to clear or just more fun/interesting for you

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
#

For example, during the first half of 4.8 both Navia and Nilou were on banner. While Nilou would've been the better long-term choice, I went with Navia since I knew I'd have more fun with her

muted tundra
#

also does Genshin have to way for you to try out characters

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excluding the newest limited at that time

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I know ZZZ has it

fiery geyser
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Sometimes the combat events?

shrewd plinth
#

In the event page there's a chance to trial characters that are currently on banner

fiery geyser
#

they’ll give you trial versions of characters outside the current banner

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but that’s really it afaik

shrewd plinth
#

That too, yeah

fiery geyser
#

sometimes also in a quest, but it’s rare and doesn’t last too long

muted tundra
#

I think you can use imaginarium theatre for that as well?

fiery geyser
#

ooh yeah

shrewd plinth
#

Ah, yeah. There's a handful of characters that you can try out there as well

muted tundra
#

unironically FGC could never

shrewd plinth
#

For example, there's Emilie, Dehya, Mualani, Yaoyao, Xiangling and a couple others I can't remember currently

fiery geyser
muted tundra
#

hold on I think you can use "rental" characters on SF6

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but most FGs don't even have that so it still stands

wicked gazelle
#

robin and FX LC acquired

plain bluff
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congrats

reef elm
#

Happy for you

rocky palm
fiery geyser
plush siren
#

Apperantly ZZZ has a character named Grace Howard?

reef elm
#

lol

rocky palm
#

bruh jingliu just rocked up as if she wasn't a wanted criminal 💀

wicked gazelle
#

blade is chillin in the back too

fiery geyser
#

and Luocha lmao

fiery geyser
#

why do the dice apply a debuff SOLKEKW 💀

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also the fact that he was left with 1% lol

rocky palm
rocky palm
#

I think he was left at 1 health tbh, not even 1% lol

fiery geyser
#

does this also work on things like the xianzhou dog, xianzhou revive soldiers, penacony dog, or the gumball machines?

rocky palm
#

I can check in a bit tho

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I don't believe so though

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oooooh

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wait

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it might actually be bc each dice increases amount of damage taken

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meaning it wouldn't be JQ's ult

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There are some times where the dies don't give stacks, which I assumed was bc JQ's were all used up

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But if all enemies are taking max damage already (+100%), then there wouldn't be any additional debuffs

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i'm not sure now

fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

okay, the first 4 dice give a stack each but once there are more points than Aventurine's they stop giving stacks

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So it's not JQ's ult, it's that the points cause incremental debuffs

fiery geyser
#

Ooo

#

I was about to say

rocky palm
#

regardless, Boothill and Acheron have such good synergy

#

He's able to give her a minimum of two stacks every turn

#

And up to four potentially

#

Plus he fulfills the role of "sub"-dps for her that she really needs

fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

true

#

that's obviously why he has taunt

fiery geyser
#

and reduced damage taken

rocky palm
#

Preservation Boothill when

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
#

Casual reminder that the Genshin 5.1 Stream is in just over 3 hours and 10 mins!

fiery geyser
shrewd plinth
rocky palm
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i need this

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to be perfect

shrewd plinth
fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

everyone, give me your hopes and dreams

fiery geyser
#

there

shrewd plinth
rocky palm
#

we're going straight to 15

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i will cry

shrewd plinth
rocky palm
#

honestly just going to recycle this one lol

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2 rolls into flat hp is too bad to use

fiery geyser
rocky palm
#

especially since I have the one with 28cd

fiery geyser
#

Missing crit rate rolls feels painful

rocky palm
#

stg this domain is cursed lol

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New aven build dropped tho

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Swapped him to diver and finally got to 143

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  • 96% cr too
fiery geyser
#

is diver good because of LC?

rocky palm
#

yeah