Gacha hell

[toxic rain]

Lmao

They “vanished”

When did they change it for genshin? Was it when arlechino released cuz she deadass was killing from what I heard

And had a way darker story for genshin

[fiery geyser]

apparently it’s still rated 12+

[rocky palm]

pretty sure violence/death is allowed in 12+ as long as it's not graphic

[fiery geyser]

it’s not visually graphic but Arle literally crushes someone with her heel 💀

https://tenor.com/view/arlecchino-genshinimpact-father-hoyoverse-fatui-gif-1769652855127441240

[rocky palm]

wait she kills him with that?

💀 💀 💀

yeah idk how that rating is standing then lmao

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

that's insane

crushing someone's head like a melon is not on my bingo card for genshin

[fiery geyser]

The only thing I can think of is that it was in one of the promo trailers for her

so you won’t see it in-game unless you’re looking out for her promo stuff

[rocky palm]

still pretty fucked

i think it does skate by though

cause it doesn't have blood

some of the regulations are pretty dumb

[fiery geyser]

Yeah, genshin doesn’t really have blood

[plush siren]

Yiiiiiikes this is genshin?

[fiery geyser]

Yeah, arlecchino’s character teaser

https://youtu.be/lDVeNoQ0LxI?feature=shared

[plush siren]

I was under the impression that game was selling to fifth graders

I mean im willing to accept this isnt, like “graphic”

But not material for a children’s game

[fiery geyser]

12+ is kinda pushing it 💀
but as mentioned, ig cuz its not graphically violent

[plush siren]

If this is 12+ to them

Id hate to see anything going down in ZZZ

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

they have a big incentivization to stay under 12+

I can't remember the exact reason, but Nikke is also 12+ bc of it

[plush siren]

Seems like thats not stopping them from taking some “creative liberties”

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0w5JRG3jY

[reef elm]

PAC man

[fiery geyser]

The abyss has the big green saurian boss

[reef elm]

Yumkasairus?

[fiery geyser]

Yes lmao

[reef elm]

That’s cool too bad I’ll never see it in abyss

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

dang, they reworked AS break mechanics

no more free ults anymore

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/mitsukayurie/status/1835426544199799116

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/mitsukayurie/status/1835426544199799116

[toxic rain]

Jane doe is a great asset for the soul

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/notdes1re/status/1835079332529623333

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/notdes1re/status/1835079332529623333

[muted tundra]

Burnice propaganda is flaring up already

debating myself if I should use my first limited banners pulls today for either Kazuha or Mualani or wait for raiden

[shrewd plinth]

Mualani's a little harder to work with, but both Raiden and Kazuha are pretty good, versatile characters

[muted tundra]

from what I can tell Raiden is currently like Dantes in Melty blood

jack of all trades, master of none

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, for sure

She has good off-field Damage, can work as a good on-fielder and provides good suport in the form of energy

She also has a really good option for a F2P weapon

[muted tundra]

but I saw some speculation that she might work well with Mavuika

so I'm a little tempted

[shrewd plinth]

She's definitely a good option

[muted tundra]

||also I think there were some leaks about chronicled banner in Mauvika's patch?(idk what it is exactly)||

[shrewd plinth]

I can't really comment too much on that, since I don't keep up with leaks myself
A Chronicled Wish banner is basically a banner that consists of multiple different 5 stars in it's own standalone pool. You're able to choose one to focus on, and that will be considered the 'featured' character of the banner. The arguably best part about them though is, depending on the other 5 stars on the banner, you're guaranteed to get something good even if you lose your 50/50.

For example, if I chose Eula here but lost the 50/50, the only other characters I can get are Mona, Albedo, Klee, Diluc and Jean

[muted tundra]

and the pool is predetermined right?

[shrewd plinth]

Yup

You can't get any 5 stars outside of those featured on the banner, so it's pretty good for people who don't have most of the featured characters

[muted tundra]

though that means that you might not get regular reruns on the characters on the chronicled banner anytime soon

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah. Characters on the Chronicled Wish are specifically characters that haven't gotten a rerun in a while

[muted tundra]

||it kinda sucks that it might be on 5.3 though||

||that patch seems to be stacked already||

[muted tundra]

I think I'm leaning on Raiden and Mavuika when they roll around

[shrewd plinth]

That sounds like a good choice!

One thing I forgot to mention about Raiden is that she's actually super F2P friendly.
Her best On-Field DPS team consists of all 4 stars, plus she can be used in Aggravate or Hyperbloom which are both really easy to make teams

[muted tundra]

and I think one of her teammates is on the same banner as her?

[shrewd plinth]

Kinda, yeah

Chevreuse is just a really good support, and essential to Overload teams

And Sara's alright, but she's only really a viable option if you get her at C6

[muted tundra]

also is there a prydwen equievalent for Genshin

[shrewd plinth]

KQM (https://keqingmains.com/) is the best for character and teambuilding

There isn't really an amazing site for checking character abilities though, at least that I know of

[toxic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-gif-20924845

[humble citrus]

honey hunter is really detailed, but they have leaked characters listed

[shrewd plinth]

Damn

[reef elm]

Nice

[muted tundra]

now we wait for burnice

[shrewd plinth]

Hell yeah!

[muted tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

my reaction after seeing the S rank animation

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/122382398

[fiery geyser]

rat acquired

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

kokers!

[shrewd plinth]

[muted tundra]

power went out in my neighborhood one day before Raiden's rerun

this might be a sign

[shrewd plinth]

She accidentally blew out the entire power grid with her burst, she's nearby

[rocky palm]

This does... put a smile on my face

Sucks that Phantylia side doesn't have physical weakness

Could be so good for Boothill with the destruction bloom break buffs, but sadly not the case

Also, this AS is not as good for Acheron as I expected

Mostly cause I didn't realize ult wasn't given back on breaking the boss before last night

After breaking her you have to use 5-ish turns to build up an ult and kill her

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/kagaku_o/status/1835625291106193898?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/kagaku_o/status/1835625291106193898

[fiery geyser]

every petal in life’s garden

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

Neither of these bosses seems v good for Feixiao

Struggling to get anything above 3580

[fiery geyser]

having to use ult on a weak dice 😭

[rocky palm]

yeah

I really don't like this AS though

Feels like getting a high score is borderline impossible cause you're forced to wait for the boss' gimmick

[fiery geyser]

yeah

[rocky palm]

And Aventurine may as well be single target cause you can (at least in the beginning) only kill one dice at a time

Feels poorly designed imo

idk who this AS is supposed to be for

Doesn't feel Feixiao oriented

Doesn't really feel Yunli oriented

Phantylia looks like a dream for FF I assume

Aventurine is just kind of there though

[fiery geyser]

Kinda? Everything in there has a really high toughness bar

[rocky palm]

Yeah I'm shocked at how big the toughness bars are this time

It feels so difficult to break the boss if you ignore the adds

[fiery geyser]

thankfully there’s imaginary so HMC helps so much but even then

[rocky palm]

I said the FF thing cause of the buffs

They're break oriented but Boothill cannot exist on Phantylia's side cause no physical

[fiery geyser]

and the destruction flower

[rocky palm]

Yeah

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

V disappointing that I can't use him with those flowers

I'm also hating this change from restoring energy to restoring SP on break lol

[fiery geyser]

This is where the break gatekeeping starts

[rocky palm]

Makes Robin hard to use

[rocky palm]

More evidence that ||TY will be for FF and not Boothill? ||

[fiery geyser]

Yeaah, big downgrade
Full SP is still good but getting all ur ults back was so powerful

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

I was thinking the SP thing might be an indicator that this is good for DHIL

Idk about that though

~~or it just means that e0 FF gets all the sp back ~~

Very strange AS all around

Does break damage deal with element res?

if so, they really didn't want Boothill on this side

He does well on Aven side fwiw

[fiery geyser]

Yeah

[rocky palm]

zamn

[fiery geyser]

in higher DU levels, trying to kill those giant fire guys with FF is noticeably longer than other enemies lol

the ones that charge up the multi fireballs or the big orb

[rocky palm]

the ones on Kafka side of last AS?

This was a full acheron ult worth of damage while it was weakness protected

[fiery geyser]

Yeah

[fiery geyser]

💀

[rocky palm]

giving up for now

will look at some showcases later to see if there's any tricks

looking forward to the new PF and probably gonna ignore this though 💀

still better than MoC aventurine at least

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

I think what makes this AS really annoying is that you have to have good AoE damage while still having good Single-target
For example, while Firefly can clear through Phantylia you're basically brute-forcing it by killing one of the flowers on the right and then focusing down Phantylia, you still have the other 3 flowers doing their stuff

It does make me wonder how a well-built Himeko would do on Phantylia's side though

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

The flowers heal you when you kill em so you could probably replace gally with her in an FF team

Idk if the flowers are considered an elite though

cuz if they’re not

[shrewd plinth]

I'll give that a try!

It worked...Kinda...

The flower's don't count as Elites, so they only give 1 charge

But they heal so much that, provided you deal enough damage, they can keep your alive

[fiery geyser]

Damn

[shrewd plinth]

SP Management is also not great, since you don't have Gallagher to balance it out

[fiery geyser]

oh, right

💀

[rocky palm]

I went Acheron Sparkle Robin JQ

Still only got around 3600

Acheron suffers a lot in this AS cause she doesn't get ult refund

[toxic rain]

I need next week to come out got zzz😩

It’s gunna bang

[reef elm]

this is carazy im actually doing genshin exploration

[shrewd plinth]

All done!
Teams were:
Acheron/Sparkle/Aventurine/Pela vs Aventurine
HMC/Firefly/Ruan Mei/Gallagher vs Phantylia
Had the break blessings for both of 'em

[fiery geyser]

[mortal osprey]

this apoth shadow felt a lot easier than normal

oh speaking of, congrats

didn't read chat lol

[shrewd plinth]

Once I actually read what did what, yeah it actually was pretty straightforward

Who knew that focusing the flowers that give you a Break Effect buff would be good for a Break DPS?

[fiery geyser]

[mortal osprey]

I did feixao/march 7 hunt/fu xuan/ sparkle side one and gepard/acheron/swan/kafka side 2

[fiery geyser]

DoTcheron

[mortal osprey]

dotcheron my beloved

altho rn it's fexiao+march my beloved

[fiery geyser]

still kinda crazy that hunt 7th is free

[mortal osprey]

yeah

all six eidolons too

HSR one of the only gachas that doesn't actively despise its playerbase

[fiery geyser]

if the trend continues, the next free character will also be really strong

[mortal osprey]

true

[rocky palm]

||please let him be something other than fire abundance||

[wicked gazelle]

||fire nihility, take it or leave it||

[rocky palm]

||a third would be insane lol ||

||I'm personally being on quantum or imaginary abundance, though I'd prefer if he want abundance at all ||

[rocky palm]

Feixiao ult just did beeg number

992k

feesh brain happi

[reef elm]

Wow

[rocky palm]

[plain bluff]

Aventurine's fua did that much?!?!

[rocky palm]

yeah

[plain bluff]

he's the real carry

[humble citrus]

it is pretty good for her yeah, though you have to pay attention to her ult uptime

[rocky palm]

I put him on imaginary orb and def rope

90% cr, 30000% cd

[plain bluff]

you could work on that cr

[rocky palm]

true

[rocky palm]

the lack of energy gain at all in this AS is v annoying

[fiery geyser]

and aven still takes some away

[rocky palm]

Phanytylia gives some, Aventurine only gives you energy if you wait for him to do the dice acceleration

and yeah he still takes it away if he does the die drop

[fiery geyser]

getting hit by the drop as acheron, feixiao, or yunli:

getting hit by the drop as Robin:

[rocky palm]

Insane luck on Feixiao side

Robin ult got recharged

Acheron side can maybe be improved, but unlikely i'll get a score as high on Aventurine side again

[fiery geyser]

fitting

[rocky palm]

[humble citrus]

it’s why i’m not immediately popping FF ult, unless phantylia herself is near the breaking it’s not worth.

[fiery geyser]

gallagher with QPQ can help out a bit

[rocky palm]

It's pretty comical how Gallagher + QPQ was discovered and became so meta basically overnight

One day there was nothing, the next everyone was talking about Gally being a phenomenal sustain battery

[lilac spire]

isnt that a destiny weapon

[plain bluff]

until all of your QPQ procs go to Acheron

[humble citrus]

[humble citrus]

You're thinking of the Gjallahorn

[lilac spire]

im just here to shitpost till someone shows me the door

[humble citrus]

there is no door, it's just a black hole

[fiery geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/gjallarhorn-destiny-shoot-gif-12350212

Wolfpack rounds

[rocky palm]

Should not be able to happen imo

Think it's really dumb that it can

It can't go to allies with more than half of their energy, so why does any go to acheron when she's constantly "full" on energy

Could also say she's empty on energy ig but

How do you feel about Feixiao lc btw seri

[plain bluff]

it's her best LC by far

and just really good

overall

defense shred is genuinely busted

since it stacks on top of all of every other buff/debuff

if you're satisfied with your Feixiao's current numbers, there's little reason to upgrade

but it provides a very good damage boost

[rocky palm]

I am satisfied with them, but I could always get more...

the greed of le feesh knows no bounds

[plain bluff]

then get Topaz

[rocky palm]

ehrm

Too expensive

[plain bluff]

[rocky palm]

I'd have to get a lc for her and then farm a bunch of stuff again

and relics

[plain bluff]

you can just put your Moze stuff on her

tbh

[rocky palm]

ehrm

yeah probably

numby doesn't count as ult damage in windfall right

doesn't reaaaally matter either way, i've spent all my pulls going for robin e2 now

[plain bluff]

I'm not sure

[rocky palm]

0 pity on lc but I do have guarantee, I might focus on that for the rest of the banner

[plain bluff]

fair enough

Moze is good enough anyways

[rocky palm]

moze is shockingly good

[plain bluff]

Topaz is better, but you probably don't need her

same goes for Feixiao's LC vs Swordplay

[rocky palm]

hmmge

[reef elm]

i definitely read that wrong

might need to build anton

[rocky palm]

sincerely fuck whoever decided Aventurine couldn't be targetable here

[fiery geyser]

did sparkle and gally survive

[rocky palm]

gally died after

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

the thing i'm annoyed about here though is that this is the last thing before cycle 28 ends

i could've 2-cycled

but had to sit through the cutscene and then it was cycle 27 before i could ult

and then i ulted the second i could just to get it over with, and hit the dies instead

awful boss

[reef elm]

had an insane du run this week

[rocky palm]

still not enough to get the 16 blessing equation

i still don't know anyone who's done that

56 curios is also insane, wtf did you do

ah wait

rubert curio

[fiery geyser]

[reef elm]

i had so much of the money rocks

[humble citrus]

simply get the RM occurrence /s

that’s the only time i’ve managed to get the 16 super equation

[muted tundra]

why do Jane teams also use Lucy?

[barren pier]

Alright what did you fuckers do

Why is McDonald’s collabing with Genshin you degenerates

[mortal osprey]

big attack stim

but she does well with seth as well for anomaly buff

[mortal osprey]

you say that like they didn't do kfc years ago

and duolingo recently

[barren pier]

KFC was at least ironic since they also just made a full dating sim but this is too far

I’m beginning to lose faith in humanity

[mortal osprey]

it's not exactly out of order for mcdonalds either, didn't they have a travis scott meal?

idk I think weird collabs are funny and fine

even weeb ones

[barren pier]

It’s honestly fine I just found it very funny tbh

[mortal osprey]

oh I get you, dw

[barren pier]

My brain still be in the middle of early 2000’s where being an anime fan was like asking to be socially looked down upon

[mortal osprey]

I am glad we live in a kinder age now

but a teeny tiny part of me feels like it's stolen valor if you weren't a weeb back then

[muted tundra]

I feel like the stigma behind watching anime changes a lot depending on what you watched and when

like from what I see watching DB in latin america was pretty common place

and we also had Captain Tsubasa back in the day, even before Naruto or Bleach was a thing

failed to trigger the hard pity at 80 pulls, got Keqing though

gonna have to wait a bit more for Raiden

[shrewd plinth]

Ay, nice!

[muted tundra]

I guess its not that big of a deal that I have to wait more

I can't go to inazuma yet

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, true

Keqing's a decent character still, since she makes really good use of Aggravate

[muted tundra]

did get Chevreuse C1 also

[shrewd plinth]

Nice!

Chev's C1 is alright, but her C2 is where her cons start to get good

C2 and C6 are her best ones

[muted tundra]

can you run both Clorinde and Raiden?

[shrewd plinth]

Clorinde makes good use of Fischl, who functions similarly, so I'd imagine so

If you run something like Clorinde/Raiden/DMC you can put together a good Aggravate team

[muted tundra]

dendro traveler?

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah

Their burst provides Off-field Dendro application in a massive area, so they're a really good F2P option

[muted tundra]

should prioritize buying character copies from the shop?

I think benett is going to be there next month or so

[shrewd plinth]

For certain characters, yeah. Bennet, Fischl and Xingqiu are the standouts

Xiangling C4 is pretty good as well

Otherwise though, it's personal preference

[rocky palm]

Boothill kind of fucks up Aventurine regardless of the mode ig

[muted tundra]

was thinking of saving for them in the long run

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, a good idea for sure!

[plain bluff]

the master of AS

[rocky palm]

you mean Firefly?

I had to say it

[plain bluff]

Firefly and worse Firefly

[rocky palm]

He performed way better than I expected though

[plain bluff]

Feixiao was actually pretty good for Aventurine

would recommend trying it

[rocky palm]

He one shots the die, Bronya action advances him, he shoots the other day again

[plain bluff]

now that you have her LC

[rocky palm]

I did

I got 3700 something on Aventurine side

But Boothill can't do Phantylia period

And Acheron can't get as high of a score

[plain bluff]

I used Acheron for that

but yeah

only got 3.2k points or so

[rocky palm]

Might try Acheron w/Robin

[plain bluff]

could be interesting

she'd probably do really well

since Robin's ult uptime would be good

[rocky palm]

I did the most perfect speed refinement possible on Boothill/Bronya though

She's only slightly behind him in terms of AV

BUT

Enough that her basic doesn't advance her in front of him

bruh

acheron ult just killed phantylia from 40% unbroken

she continues to surprise me

[reef elm]

Sounds about right

[shrewd plinth]

Only 3 weeks remain, here's my current Xilonen Savings (plus 60 pity)

Soon™️

[reef elm]

Are you guaranteed

[shrewd plinth]

No

But I believe

I will win the 50/50

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

i'll never believe in the 50/50 ever again

[reef elm]

I’m also going for her

Got about 20.5 pulls saved

And 40 pity in

[shrewd plinth]

You will get her, you just have to believe!

[reef elm]

Yeah I think with the kinich events plustvwhatever is in 5.1 I can easily get her

Have y’all seen the capturing radiance yet

[shrewd plinth]

Nah

People have been speculating that, instead of just a random 10% chance to occur after a 50/50 loss, it's essentially a system to prevent you from losing too many 50/50s in a row

It's essentially pity for 50/50 losses

[reef elm]

That’s what I’ve seen as well

My friend has lost two 50/50 since 5.0 so hopefully he sees it soon

[shrewd plinth]

Here's to hopin'!

[reef elm]

I think there’s anniversary awards as well

[shrewd plinth]

Oh, yeah!

[reef elm]

Are hoyo going for constellations

[shrewd plinth]

It think my current plan is C0, then go for R1 if I have enough

Main reason being is that I'm really lacking when it comes to weapons in general, so I want to pull on the weapon banner at least a bit

[reef elm]

Makes sense

I almost want c2 but I’m only gonna whale for Eula maybe mavuika this year

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, that's fair

I think after Xilonen, I'm gonna save for Mavuika

Though if they reveal a character I really like, either via drip marketing or in the story, then I'll go for them instead

[reef elm]

Yeah I wonder what citlati will be like

[shrewd plinth]

I hope she's a dedicated off-field Cryo DPS since we don't really have a good dedicated off-field DPS for Cryo

Best we have currently would be Rosaria

Or she could be a dedicated Physical/Superconduct support

which would also be cool

[reef elm]

That would be the only situation I pull her on a non rerun

I think the only natlan character I didn’t immediately like is iansan

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah. We'll likely have to wait for the part of the story when her tribe is unlocked to get more on her

[reef elm]

Im also very lukewarm on kinich

Which is good cause I’m not tempted to pull

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, I'm not all for him character-wise but his gameplay looks fun as hell

[reef elm]

[rocky palm]

Given that Aven has now appeared in MoC and AS back to back

Anyone taking bets on him showing up in PF

[shrewd plinth]

Nah, he's gonna show up in DU as the boss for a new Planar set first

[plain bluff]

only if he's like his AS counterpart

[fiery geyser]

Yeah, and a new event dedicated to just fighting his boss form

[rocky palm]

they could technically make it so the last wave is just him + the dies as mobs

idk why i keep saying dies instead of dice

it feels more right to me for some reason

[rocky palm]

I also have some exciting information

[stark salmon]

well shit no 000

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-item-risky-gif-25871687

[rocky palm]

Updated review of this AS:

Aventurine sucks for aoe attackers, but if you accept that then he's actually pretty fun

Just a bit annoying to build around

Phantylia is cool but forces you to be much slower than usual because you have to wait for her to bring the flowers back (idk how you break her without killing ~7 flowers)

She's a little too tanky imo but otherwise this AS is better than I first thought it to be

[fiery geyser]

I coulda sworn that on my first run, I was able to break her phase 1 after I killed the 2 flowers and not even enter the blue phase at all

but every subsequent run and I’m like one gally basic from breaking her on that phase

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

mildly important question for yall

do you ever run out of these

i feel like i've had ~20 since the beginning of the game

[rocky palm]

what's the blue phase

[fiery geyser]

Phase 2 in echo of war

[rocky palm]

it's blue?

[fiery geyser]

when she turns blue and starts it out with that big explosion attack

[rocky palm]

oh okay

i don't think i've ever noticed her turning blue

rather i knew she changed color, i just didn't have it in my head that it was blue

[fiery geyser]

https://www.siliconera.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/hsr-phantylia-boss-fight-header-07202023.png

I guess it’s better to say she turns purple lol

[rocky palm]

[fiery geyser]

since she’s kinda blue by default

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

since i've already forgor

does she have two health bars

she does right

[fiery geyser]

wdym

[rocky palm]

like you have to bring her health bar down to 0 twice?

maybe not

i've been doing her echo of war and might be confusing it

[fiery geyser]

In echo it’s 3 times

in AS it should only be 2

[rocky palm]

okay yeah

[fiery geyser]

you skip the middle phase if you deplete phase 1 HP

[rocky palm]

ooooooohhhh

this explains so much

[fiery geyser]

and she goes straight into sun phantylia

[rocky palm]

yeah okay lol

this is why i didn't realize that she turned blue

[fiery geyser]

Suffering from success

[rocky palm]

pretty sure i have also been skipping past it

[fiery geyser]

💀

[rocky palm]

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

nuh uh

there's a kind of annoying thing with acheron

you want to break the abundance flowers yeah

except if you aren't careful, acheron's ult will kill both the abundance and destruction blooms in the beginning

and it doesn't matter which died first, destruction will activate first and give you the break buff instead of the damage buff

so I have to kind of waste the first ultimate I get

[fiery geyser]

wait, only one can give buff at a time

[rocky palm]

you can only get one of the buffs

whichever one you kill first is the buff you have for the rest of the battle

the more of that type you kill, the more the buff improves

at least, that's what i understood from reading the description

maybe i'm wrong

[fiery geyser]

ah, I thought the only important thing was killing em

[fiery geyser]

For sun phase, I noticed that one pair of flowers says it’ll give a buff while the other doesn’t

like the abundance ones will be fine but the destruction ones say “this one will not grant the break effect buff upon defeat”

[rocky palm]

that's probably bc you killed the abundance one first

it has less health, so it's easier to kill

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

so you might be able to improve your AS on that side

[fiery geyser]

ty

I forgot but is kinich banner already up?

[plain bluff]

no

but it's good to buy them with that currency

just to ensure that you never run out in the future

[humble citrus]

he was originally in DU, and then got removed later on

[rocky palm]

Yeah cause they decided he was too bullshit 💀

rightly so tbh

[plain bluff]

if only they had the same mindset for the endgame modes

[rocky palm]

which one do you dislike?

I think PF is always fairly balanced ngl

There are so many buffs to choose from, as long as you have one of 3-4 characters you can generally get a full clear on one side and eke out enough on the other

AS variates the most between version I think, though it's a smaller pool of data to draw from

MoC feels consistently challenging, though I still clear it well below 10 cycles everytime

[plain bluff]

oh, I meant wrt putting Aventurine in them

but PF is actually my least favorite

[rocky palm]

ah, gotcha

[rocky palm]

It seems like a lot of people dislike PF

I might be biased for it cause I have a lot of good units for it

[plain bluff]

to be honest, I think that I do as well, but I just don't find the gameplay nearly as satisfying as MoC or AS

it doesn't feel all that enjoyable to mow down hordes of enemies

[rocky palm]

humu

I like seeing them blow up

Also using Clara in it is always funny

I really like AS

Not as much as PF I think, but it's a pretty cool mode to optimize

Don't like MoC much in comparison cause it's pretty impossible to optimize unless you have x y or z lc/windset/character

Also getting everyone to 161 sucks

All the 1.X chars have to get 1 or 2 more speed stats cause they all have lower base speed 😭

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

or

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

[plain bluff]

fair enough

[plain bluff]

I think that it's pretty fun to try 3*ing MoC12 with an assortment of teams

even if they aren't meta

[plain bluff]

this does sound like a pain for 0/1-cycling

[rocky palm]

Maybe I'm uncreative, but I feel like I don't have that many teams I can build

I have Acheron who's set in one style with some leeway on which harmony she goes with

And then Boothill or Feixiao

Boothill team is a formula in essence

Big toughness bar = bronya, small toughness bar = HMC

[fiery geyser]

Boothill + acheron

[rocky palm]

I'm planning to try that later tonight

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

Okay

Holy fuck

JQ works so well with Boothill

I did not realize that all of his debuffs would affect break damage

Super super close

was ~40 AV over

should be doable if I play the first section better

[plain bluff]

are you trying March 8th with Feixiao?

[rocky palm]

yeah, might swap to Moze

[plain bluff]

I think that you might 0-cycle if you replace her

since Aventurine resists imaginary

by 40%

[rocky palm]

oh fr

Damn I'll definitely do better with another then

good call, ty ty

The Kafka side was trivial though

[lilac spire]

if march 8th is so good what happened to march 1 through 7

[rocky palm]

Boothill was doing a shit ton

Acheron was doing a lot

JQ was chilling with his 5k health pool

RM was cheering on the team

It worked so perfectly

Acheron reduced Kafka's toughness just enough for Boothill to be able to break her in one shot

[rocky palm]

7 ate 9 and went to prison

[shrewd plinth]

https://fxtwitter.com/tomato_laccoon/status/1836030413174722900?s=46

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

~~the art posted here is slowly getting sussier and sussier ~~

[fiery geyser]

omg xilonen

[shrewd plinth]

If it's any consolation, that's pretty much my limit when it comes to posting art anywhere

[rocky palm]

[rocky palm]

I wasn't complaining

Just observing

[shrewd plinth]

I see

[rocky palm]

Anyways, Kafka ate shit via bullet and Aventurine died to the storm

[rocky palm]

innocent non-sus feesh who does not deserve bonks

[fiery geyser]

false

[rocky palm]

ehrm

what the flip

[fiery geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yunli-yunli-ultimate-yunli-hsr-yunli-hsr-wtw-wuatauw-gif-4522950164787948605

[rocky palm]

what the flipping flip

why is yunli bonking me

[fiery geyser]

sus feebsh

[rocky palm]

nuh uh

you have no proof

[fiery geyser]

[plain bluff]

did you use Moze?

[rocky palm]

Yep

Finished it with half the cycle left

[plain bluff]

oh, nice

congrats

[rocky palm]

E2 speed buff does come into play sometimes

[rocky palm]

ty

[plain bluff]

E2S1 robin

[rocky palm]

The energy regen is so nice

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

I went from 2.7 ish to 4.2 ish

tough to say without the exact numbers

[fiery geyser]

adds up to a lot

[rocky palm]

yep

a little less than twice as fast

makes her far less reliant on QPQ Gallagher in all comps too

She had to skill only once to get back to ult in my Acheron team iirc

Though that was in AS and she was getting hit a lot

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-m108H88Ac

[plain bluff]

nice thumbnail

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-star-rail-i-love-gambling-roulette-gif-15600735931808948001

[rocky palm]

[muted tundra]

🥹🥹🥹

[fiery geyser]

dainsleif

[rocky palm]

They should introduce a co-op mode to HSR

That would be so sick actually

[muted tundra]

||https://x.com/ranran__3939/status/1836180241334845729||

[west meteor]

||https://fxtwitter.com/ranran__3939/status/1836180241334845729 ||

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/XI_Oshir1/status/1836018248539881806

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/XI_Oshir1/status/1836018248539881806

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/CometC02/status/1836011625935143019

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/CometC02/status/1836011625935143019

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/yu_da_yu_da/status/1836014167452450846

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/yu_da_yu_da/status/1836014167452450846

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/o0Oherb/status/1835989576923422844

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/o0Oherb/status/1835989576923422844

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/ttkaki1/status/1835910601182429456

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/ttkaki1/status/1835910601182429456

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/doghyu_/status/1835647222819803294

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/doghyu_/status/1835647222819803294

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/Sco_ttie/status/1836329565658271799

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/Sco_ttie/status/1836329565658271799

[muted tundra]

when can you get S rank discs in Zenless?

[shrewd plinth]

I think it's around IK Level 40-45

[muted tundra]

I checked and it shows that they are obtainable at IK 35

though I heard its better to grind at IK 40?

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, that sounds about right

The drop rates likely don't get good enough until IK 40

[muted tundra]

its gonna take me forever to get a good Jane team😭

and I'm dropping Billy for my second team and wow it makes a huge difference

lower rarity DPS characters are rough to play

[humble citrus]

https://x.com/o2h2_oh4/status/1836092354215993482?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/o2h2_oh4/status/1836092354215993482

[toxic rain]

I’m back on genshin do y’all thing the pyro archon will be good with Emilie ?

[shrewd plinth]

I'd imagine so since she's Pyro, but we don't know much about her kit aside from that

[toxic rain]

Oh okay so I’ll play genshin and save for her

Or serial killer arrlechino

Also for Fontaine do I really need specific characters to do the ousa block things?

[wicked gazelle]

I think just the traveler

[shrewd plinth]

The Traveller and Lynette (who you can get for free) can cover everything, but most puzzles have ways to complete them without certain characters

For example, for the Ousia/Pneuma puzzles, there should be orbs nearby that infuse your next hit with either Ousia or Pneuma depending on the colour

[toxic rain]

Thanks

Highkey needs a skip button 🤣

Zzz has one

Parts of it though

I’m tryna skip the unvoiced dialogue

“Ah yes things do be happening” is what I always say😮‍💨

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's either an engine limitation or it'd be too much of an undertaking at this point

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/mochi_upamo/status/1836212528453685455?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/mochi_upamo/status/1836212528453685455

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/yuurina_/status/1836143272252838023?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/yuurina_/status/1836143272252838023

[muted tundra]

does mihoyo games later add limited characters to the standard banners?

[wicked gazelle]

they added dehya in genshin

[shrewd plinth]

No, they don't. The only characters that have been added to the Standard Banner post release are Tighnari and Dehya in Genshin, and both of them were advertised as such before their release

[reef elm]

Wonder Honkai impact third did

I don’t think so

[shrewd plinth]

They legally cannot release Limited characters on the Standard banner as that'd count as Consumer Fraud and False Advertising

Unless they preface beforehand that the character is/can end up on the Standard Banner before their release, then they won't be ever able to show up on the Standard Banner

[muted tundra]

what language they use to explain that exactly?

if its just "you can obtain this character for a limited time" I doubt that will put you into trouble

[shrewd plinth]

This is from the Details Page of the limted banner in Genshin

It explicitly mentions that the event-exclusive character won't be abvailable in the current Standard Banner

So, unless they make a brand new Standard Banner with a different name, they can't add limited characters to the Standard Banner

I'd imagine it's a similar situation in their other games as well

[toxic rain]

Can I go into y’all’s world later and get some mats from Fontaine 😩

[shrewd plinth]

I'd be down to help...If I wasn't on EU

[toxic rain]

Damn

[wicked gazelle]

If you ping me tn I can let you in while I do the natlan quest

[toxic rain]

Kk

Imma lock it tf in and grind this genshin story from sumeru to natlan let’s get it

[rocky palm]

It's very nice to see Clara hit for 200k in PF

[plain bluff]

lore-accurate Svarog

[rocky palm]

fr

I also changed out two things on my Herta and now she has 240 cd

only 47 cr though

i'll fix that eventually

[fiery geyser]

[plain bluff]

just get very lucky

and always crit

simple

[rocky palm]

When she did crit it was nuts

Entire wave of enemies dead immediately

||https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/s/VL9pNMOtz4||

[west meteor]

||https://rxddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/s/VL9pNMOtz4 ||

[rocky palm]

||last part is pretty believable imo||

[plain bluff]

||JY buff!?!?!||

[rocky palm]

Oooo, true

[plain bluff]

||seems like a fun support though||

||ST Robin in some senses||

[rocky palm]

Total side question

Does Robin ult count as a summon in the action bar

[plain bluff]

I remember it being phrased like that when she was being leaked

as her "summoning a singer"

prydwen doesn't seem to have anything on it

[rocky palm]

Hmm

[plain bluff]

but it definitely sounds like a summon

based on its fixed speed

[rocky palm]

||would be funny if they have anti synergy ||

||storing extra energy sounds like a dream for Argenti and Yunli though||

[fiery geyser]

||sadly, I think those leakers have an iffy reputation
and it just says from bilibili ||

[rocky palm]

||yeah, but the mechanic is so unique that I feel like it has potential to be real||

[reef elm]

I still have t done the Fontaine quest

[muted tundra]

it just occurred to me that I lost 3 50/50s in a row😭

[reef elm]

I’ve lost two

[muted tundra]

also I just realized that getting any 5* at all resets everything, not just when you reach to 80-90 range

so I got Keqing at 40, I pulled 40 more times and now I'm 40 for pity counting purposes

[muted tundra]

wondering I should give up on Raiden and go for another character instead

[toxic rain]

The shogun is goated

[reef elm]

The almighty raiden shogun

And her musou no hitotachi

[toxic rain]

I pulled for her, the second time and no regrets

She’s goated

And I don’t even have a weapon for her 😂

[reef elm]

I just use flavonoid lance

It has negative drip

[muted tundra]

I think I'll wait a bit for like a week or two and farm primos

there's no need to decide right now

[reef elm]

Did you lose 50/50 to her

[muted tundra]

though I'm still leaning on spending the rest

lost it on 40 to Keqing

on 40 pity rn

[reef elm]

I see, if you have low exploration everywhere it’s definitely possible to get her

Or you just get some like xilonen

[muted tundra]

I'm still at liyue

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/kyusoukyu/status/1836345669507797140?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/kyusoukyu/status/1836345669507797140

[wicked gazelle]

hit 80 pity

[fiery geyser]

[rocky palm]

Really wish it was possible to use friend's units on endgame modes (but without getting a score for it obviously)

it'd be fun to try them out in a more meta-defining arena

[rocky palm]

Goated with the sauce?

[wicked gazelle]

feesh wtf is the team

[wicked gazelle]

82

[rocky palm]

[rocky palm]

stronk

and expensive

e2s1 acheron, e0s1 feixiao, e2s1 robin, e0s0 JQ

[wicked gazelle]

[rocky palm]

also for boothill havers

idk if i talked about it here

but Boothill and JQ work crazy well together

[reef elm]

my brain is too small for this

aha the poer of posting online helped me solve it

[fiery geyser]

[jaunty badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85UmrdslEE

i think theres new stuff in this trailer

[rocky palm]

Objectively correct tier list of canonical strengths

If you disagree you're wrong

[reef elm]

Hook

[rocky palm]

She's the emanator of destruction

Therefore she is the strongest character in the game

[jaunty badger]

do you think fu xuan should be higher

[rocky palm]

I wasn't sure about FX

[jaunty badger]

she can see the future

[rocky palm]

She's the master diviner but what does that really mean strength wise

She can see the future with a giant machine

I didn't really translate that into strength

ig another phrasing of this list would be "innate power"

obviously at the top are all the emanators + Jingliu and DHIL

[jaunty badger]

also i don't know if the 10 stonehearts are that strong

[rocky palm]

I mean

We saw aventurine with a cracked stoneheart

[jaunty badger]

we have no idea atleast for topaz and jade

[rocky palm]

and he was destroying most of penacony

yeah but we can assume their stonehearts are just as strong

they're pseudo-emanators

[jaunty badger]

they said that the stones functions differently so not all could be for combat

[rocky palm]

I will admit they got placed up there mostly bc of what Aventurine showcased though

[jaunty badger]

or are they

[rocky palm]

Topaz does say that the stonehearts each behave uniquely, so it's possible theirs don't make them stronger per se

oh you just said that

i scrolled up for a minute so i missed it

[jaunty badger]

i can see it though

[rocky palm]

Honestly should've put an empty tier between Acheron and everyone else lol

I don't think anyone comes close to her absurd strength

[jaunty badger]

topaz could be as strong considering her event showing that she was about to fight most of the astral express by herself

[fiery geyser]

The trailblazer

[jaunty badger]

wait who was she fighting in this part again, it was march, tb, and who else?

[rocky palm]

Disputing placement or saying they're as strong as acheron?

which is also disputing placement ig

Put Argenti/Boothill in unclear bc 1) Argenti fights and presumably kills a true sting (wtf), and Boothill hasn't really been shown in combat aside from wardance atm

[jaunty badger]

idk, i don't think Tb is that strong

i think the placement is good

[rocky palm]

but he also has a giant bounty

[jaunty badger]

but I wouldn't put them higher

[rocky palm]

This is also 90% sorted btw

[jaunty badger]

also what about sampo and sparkle

i feel like they're a little stronger than most characters

[rocky palm]

I was mixed about both of them

Sparkle isn't really strong so much as tricky imo

Like what is she going to do to beat Sushang for example

[fiery geyser]

Strong as acheron but mainly if we’re going by plot protection
Otherwise, their spot makes sense

[jaunty badger]

fair

im waiting to see if sampo is strong

all the game said is that hes trained

[rocky palm]

I mean...

he's prob emanator of elation

bc that's not strictly confirmed I didn't place him higher though

how do y'all feel about ratio placement

I put him in stronk but he doesn't really do anything combat related

he's just buff as

Was a little mixed on RM placement, wasn't sure if I should let her manifest a biological horror and count it as a "strength"

[jaunty badger]

hes strong but yeah he doesn't do much combat

so no real proof

[jaunty badger]

same thing as ratio where shes smart but she probably doesn't fight much

[rocky palm]

prolly should've put him in average joe then

[jaunty badger]

also was lynx strong or anything in lore?

[rocky palm]

afaik she camps and that's it

[fiery geyser]

I seriously can’t express how cute this boss is

[mortal osprey]

What about her shenanigans in the cutscene vs kafka

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/esiu3891/status/1836722283928514666

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/esiu3891/status/1836722283928514666

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/otonari_y/status/1836359267533885848

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/otonari_y/status/1836359267533885848

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/k_rity/status/1836667634261332077

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/k_rity/status/1836667634261332077

[fiery geyser]

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/xFateZH/status/1836615663378665617

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/xFateZH/status/1836615663378665617

[humble citrus]

after playing the aetherium wars event i can confirm this is true and 100% factual

[rocky palm]

ending of aetherium wars is one of the most wholesome parts of the game

[muted tundra]

do we know all the banners from 5.1 to 5.3?

[shrewd plinth]

We know the characters that will be on them from one of the trailers, but officially-speaking we don't know anyone besides from Xilonen who's releasing in the first half of 5.1

[humble citrus]

ngl i wasn’t enjoying it up until the end there. was very worth it

[muted tundra]

which trailers specifically?

[shrewd plinth]

This one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ATH__rtQo

All the characters, aside from maybe Capitano, are very likely gonna be playable at some point due to their designs

In order of appearance there's: Mualani, Kachina, Kinich, Citlali, Xilonen, Iansan, Chasca, Mavuika, Capitano, Ororon (Beside Capitano, he's hard to see)

[muted tundra]

what do we know about rerun schedule?

[shrewd plinth]

Nothing, really. The only rule is that a new limited character will very likely get their first rerun within 4-6 months of their initial release, though this isn't always the case

For example Wriothesley, who was released in 4.1, still hasn't gotten a rerun despite releasing almost a year ago

Then you have characters like Shenhe who haven't gotten a rerun in over 13 patches, with her last banner being before the release of HSR

[muted tundra]

also hoping I'm not clogging up the chat too much😭

[shrewd plinth]

Don't worry at all, If you want a question answered then no one's gonna complain about you asking it

[muted tundra]

I'm trying to make sense of mihoyo gacha systems for the first time and asking around to make sure the info I'm getting on youtube is reliable or not

[shrewd plinth]

Yeah, that's fair

[rocky palm]

Cannot believe there is genshin discussion in the HSR channel smh smh

(Evil fish )

[rocky palm]

How many of you guys understood the adventure domain compass from the get go

No judgement, I'm just curious cause it seems like a lot of people don't know how it works

[reef elm]

The what

[toxic rain]

Mods get this guy

He’s speaking fallacies

[wicked gazelle]

I thought I did, but I was mistaken

[rocky palm]

Xianzhou compass

The thing with spinning dials

[reef elm]

Oh

So fun fact I have 6 march eidolons but no march to use them on

I think it’s the hunt one

[shrewd plinth]

You should be able to switch to March 7 Hunt if you progressed the story enough to get all her Eidolons

You just need to go to her on the Character page

And there should be a button for it

[reef elm]

I haven’t done the luofu quests

And I tried using the same button as tb but it didn’t work

[shrewd plinth]

Oh, right

I guess you used the skips?

You need to progress the 2.4 story to unlock her

[reef elm]

Yeah

[fiery geyser]

Took me like 50 losses until I noticed the pattern 💀

I used to judge it based on the speed and not the number of glowing dots lol

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/118673670

[muted tundra]

my brother walked in on me while I was playing Zenless the other day

luckily he just saw Billy chain attacking

I think the game looked cool to him because he asked "yo what's this game" and then I tried my best not to divulge any more info about it😭

[reef elm]

Zzz is cool

[muted tundra]

it is but I don't want him to see the Jane trailers

[reef elm]

Fair lol

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/eltdoa/status/1836820127653974522?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/eltdoa/status/1836820127653974522

[rocky palm]

[reef elm]

Clorinde

[humble citrus]

i don’t think i can see “character shoots purple energy at you” the same bc of jjk being everywhere

i instinctively thought “is that hollow purple”

[reef elm]

Oh lol

[fiery geyser]

[fiery geyser]

[lilac spire]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-taking-it-easy-feixiao-eat-nom-gif-8258518113458611172

they just made a furry saber

[fiery geyser]

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/excalibur-excalibruh-saber-seiba-fate-gif-27350144

[lilac spire]

did ZZZ really upload 3 lesbian sex trailers in a row?

i almost dont wanna post it cuz the ending is def not something you want on speakers

[plush siren]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-fed-up-done-upset-angry-gif-15272547

The hell is going on in ZZZ

[reef elm]

yep

the more trailers that come out the less likely i am to recommend this game

the trailer was so cool

screamo song

the suden 180 was very abrupy

[fiery geyser]

https://x.com/genshinimpact/status/1836978700572569777?s=46

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/genshinimpact/status/1836978700572569777

[fiery geyser]

[shrewd plinth]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/106090759

[muted tundra]

you get it now?

[muted tundra]

https://x.com/Souike_/status/1835954222925324328

[west meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/Souike_/status/1835954222925324328

[muted tundra]

browsing the Keqing art channel in the Keqingmains discord to gaslight myself into liking Keqing😭

[reef elm]

https://tenor.com/view/keqing-gif-2815627432839877029

[muted tundra]

surprise koleda from the standard banner

[mortal osprey]

Kolaeda/Ben/s11 lfg

[muted tundra]

soldier 11 is in my other account😭

[reef elm]

I want c6 Ben

[mortal osprey]

idk why some ppl say he's bad, he feels real good at e6 for sure

[reef elm]

I’m one away

I think a lot of people hate Ben cause they see how slow he is then never look at his kit

[toxic rain]

Isn’t he suppose to be like an assist deflect character

His hits are really satisfying

[reef elm]

Defense character

Or something

[mortal osprey]

honestly you just build him for impact and use him as a stunner

but yeah, his skill is a guard stance that activates on any hit, and with energy for ex you get a big followup

worth noting is it activates on anything, so he can deflect things other characters can't

[muted tundra]

I wonder how Caesar is gonna slot in at current teams

I want to see if she is good enough upgrade from Seth in the future Jane and Burnice core

[fiery geyser]

[wicked gazelle]

DU is a funny place

[rocky palm]

Finally got Gallagher to 161 pre RM buff

all it took was rolling 9 speed on a watchmaker piece

[reef elm]

Wow

To both

[fiery geyser]

[plain bluff]

[humble citrus]

after months of not being able to beat V4;

[reef elm]

Nice

[plain bluff]

congrats

[humble citrus]

i was starting to regret choosing gepard for my 300th summon but preservation blessings are so good

erudition is also good for keeping shield uptime

[humble citrus]

FINALLY

IT'S OVER

[reef elm]

Yay

[humble citrus]

got the remaining jades from gold and gears, forgot that i didn't really start that one

[plain bluff]

congrats

[fiery geyser]

[wicked gazelle]

Now come grind for her light cone with me lucolo

[humble citrus]

i will actuallly spend on the banner because i need more copies of one of the 4 stars

so that pela gets 100% EHR on the LC debuff. the one with luka on it

[fiery geyser]

pearls

[toxic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/banned-ban-mai-mai-shiranui-king-of-fighters-gif-25003086