From Software

[languid axle]

Ive got a cozy little grind spot when I'm close to a level up I can fuck out to

It's right in front of moghs boss arena, I run up to the gate, and spam the fish face fuckers with red lightning bolts and then bum rush the noble

It gets monotonous if I do it for a while level up but doing one or two rounds of it to top off a level up is fine

I need to find and kill bayle

I'm in the dragon put dungeon and dunno how to proceed

Also how to progress igon?

[willow valley]

You need to find Scadutree fragments

[willow valley]

Talk to him

Kill drakes

[solemn shell]

theres a better place to do it also in mohg's area

[languid axle]

I exhausted his dialogue I think, are the drakes further up the peak

[languid axle]

Ye ik by the lake but you need the final boss weapon

[willow valley]

There's one at the base

There's two further up

[solemn shell]

yeah you gotta get through dragon pit

[languid axle]

Great

[solemn shell]

theres a big hole that you need to jump down

[willow valley]

Ignore the Ancient Dragon

[solemn shell]

its kinda not intuitive that it would be the path forward, but it is

[languid axle]

The fuckers in there are undead, and in rerolling I rolled off all my faith so I can't use incants anymore for holy damage

[solemn shell]

you dont need it

they can bleed

[languid axle]

I kill them and they get back up

[solemn shell]

hit them while they're down

it kills them permanently

how did you get through the entire basegame without learning this

[languid axle]

I tried but I couldn't hittem

[solemn shell]

so many dungeons have 100% undead enemies

[solemn shell]

you can

[willow valley]

Angle the camera to look at the floor

[languid axle]

The collosal GSs do kinda have a hard time hitting small shits near the ground

[solemn shell]

use the heavy attack

[willow valley]

It angles the attack

[solemn shell]

aim at the ground

it should work

[languid axle]

That setting was off for some reason

Can I get a lot of the scadutree fragments in the first area?

[willow valley]

Kinda

[languid axle]

I got the two next to the crosses

[willow valley]

You can go to a lot of later areas with Scadutree fragments early

[languid axle]

That works

Ideally I'd also like to get the crimson amber medallion +3

I think I'm just gonna power game the fuck out of shadow of the erdtree in terms of optimizing my build then go back to the wacky fun time shenanigans build later

[woven hearth]

is it worrth it? you could grab the 2 handed medallion instead

who needs healtth if you kill the guy before it can kill you

[languid axle]

True but I like living

And the fucken DLC kicking my ass like mad lol

[woven hearth]

more health wont help you, gotta splore for those sweet skibidi shards

[languid axle]

Beat rellana after pivoting into a 99 STR heavy sword build

Now I have twin turtle tailisman and two handed tailisman

I've become death

[last wing]

How was she?

[languid axle]

Honestly peak cinema

[last wing]

Ayyyyyyy

Yeah she's cool af

And her swords are peak

[languid axle]

Again my biggest gripe is I feel like the DMG is a tad high but at the same time I feel like that's less on the boss and more on the whole idea of the scadutree blessing itself

All in all tho the fight felt cool

Stole her helmet cause it cool

[last wing]

Fun fact, she's actually one of the most difficult ones in the dlc for no hit runs because of how many mixups she can do

[languid axle]

Yeah no I'd believe it

I tried parrying

Did it a bit

But with how much she can go "mhhhhmmmm, nah" and just do Smth else you really gotta respect it

So I forwent the whole parry angle and just dodged good

[last wing]

What's your scadu blessing up to rn

[languid axle]

She's prolly really satisfying to parry consistently

3 post rellana

I managed to somehow dodge the double fucken moondrop first time I saw it

[last wing]

Speaking of, did you kill that furnace golem that was in the first field you came out to?

[languid axle]

No he's terrifying

[last wing]

Yeah furnace golems are fucked up

They're slow and readable as fuck it's just they cover so much area and always hit like a train no matter how high your blessing

[languid axle]

What do I get if I win

[last wing]

And the stupid gimmick of having to knock them down to deal a critical in order to do any significant damage

[last wing]

The one I mentioned drops a new tear for the physick, which for a while lets you deflect attacks with any weapon by pressing the block button in time with the attacks, Sekiro-ish style.

It's part of what helped me beat Rellana on my first playthrough.

[languid axle]

...

You shouldn't have told me that

Now I'm gonna be banging my head on the wall tryna get that

[languid axle]

Is there a tailisman equivalent to that?

Or is the effect permanent till you die?

[last wing]

I forget how long it lasts but it's not until you die iirc

[languid axle]

vs Rellana I had a funny bit where I experimented with carian retaliation

The magic parry?

[last wing]

And no, it's the only thing with that effect.

[languid axle]

I managed to parry one of her moonlight blade beams, it caused hella slowdown, but she had summoned summon swords before hand so those killed me out of the animation

[languid axle]

Nuts

Dats me

From berk

[last wing]

[languid axle]

I think my plan for ER is I'm gonna go do all the DLC, level up a shitton from that (cause apparently you get runes fast in the dlc) and then when I go back to normal ER I'm gonna pivot back into my ideal build of having a whole arsenal of good shit

Rn all my levels are going into HP stamina or whatever the FP stat is (mind?)

Prolly on a 3-2-1 basis

Cause I'm only using FP on quickstep which is dirt cheap

[solemn shell]

its like 6 minutes iirc

or 3 minutes?

its a fair amount of time

[willow valley]

Even still, it's peak

[last wing]

One of the best dlc fights

[languid axle]

Is rellanas spell the highest star req in the game?

Cause 72 is insane

[solemn shell]

i think the next boss has an 80 requirement iirc

[languid axle]

Man what the fuck

In what?

[solemn shell]

nah its 60

faith

apparently theres a 72 faith incant

[languid axle]

Is that the midra thing?

There some kinda irony to madness scaling with faith

[willow valley]

Why?

You can have faith in many things

[solemn shell]

no its from the final boss

[languid axle]

Honestly given the Eldritch nature of it I'd assume it'd scale off arcane tbh

[solemn shell]

the three fingers are where the flame of frenzy come from

they were also an envoy for the universal will im pretty sure

[languid axle]

Like faith buffing something like golden order spells makes sense cause it's something you believe in as a concept

Int scaling with sorcery makes sense cause it's something you learn how to do

[solemn shell]

so it makes sense they both use faith

[languid axle]

I mean I guess from that perspective I suppose that makes sense

[solemn shell]

yeah its not necessarily like

the concept of faith

i dont know how to describe it

i think of it as a proficiency with things that are connected to the universal will

same with int, i think of it as a profiency with magic rather than the actual quality of intelligence

[languid axle]

I'm working under the pretense the faith reqs are in lore you needing to believe in something to a certain extent in order to use it

[languid axle]

Ah see I'm thinking of it like the DnD angle where each one is a specific thing

[solemn shell]

for strength, and dex to some extent but not f ully, i do think of it as just. strength

cause strength requirements are like

i think of it as you literally cannot lift this weapon, or use it well enough

but dex requirements dont make sense as much?

so its more like being proficient with weapons that are more flexible ig

[willow valley]

I mean, the buildup scales off arcane

[languid axle]

I always assumed dexterity is just having dexterity

[languid axle]

Yeah that makes sense

[solemn shell]

but dexterity is like

its not something that you can have too little of to wield something

like if you can hold a greatsword, you can hold a katana

[languid axle]

It's just general proficiency

[solemn shell]

yeah its profiency rather than straight up the thing itself

[languid axle]

Like anyone can use a katana, but it scales with dexterity cause you need good technique to maximize its potential

[solemn shell]

but if you dont have enough dexterity you cant use it at all

thats weird

[languid axle]

Like in my eyes max dexterity basically makes you like John wick

[solemn shell]

i think if you have enough skills to use a greatsword effectively enough, you should be able to use a katana effictively enough?

also i was just thinking

mind

[languid axle]

Id argue Smth like the bolt having a pretty high dexterity req makes sense cause throwing a lightning spear in such a way where you don't get fried doing it takes finesse

[solemn shell]

you can level up your mind to have more spell slots (in previous games) and more mana

which i think of as literally just being better at memorization

[languid axle]

Better memorization and more focus on being able to consistently use attacks

Hence the increased FP bar

[solemn shell]

i think that weapon is kinda fair cause its got a weird handle with all the twisty bits and whatnot

but i dont think the dex requirement would be THAT high for that kind of issue

for the lightning, idk

theres similar skills that dont require any stats

anyways

endurance being equip load and stamina just makes a lot of sense

nothing weird about that

[languid axle]

Ye

[willow valley]

Or it could just be because your hands are contending with the spear itself for space 95% of the time

[solemn shell]

and arcane is really weird

ig its profiency with stuff relating to outer gods or similar?

[languid axle]

See that's why I'm surprised frenzy doesn't use Arc as a Rec

[solemn shell]

cause like madness kinda indirectly comes from the universal will, cause its from the three fingers ig? and then rot is from the rot outer god, bleed is from the formless mother

[solemn shell]

frenzy definitely makes more sense to be faith more

[languid axle]

But then you get weapons like the Maria's executioner sword

[solemn shell]

its also like

profane stuff

or heretical

everything to do with thorns is arcane

and the bell bearing hunters have the thorn armor

[languid axle]

The secret and fucked up forbidden art of le pokey poke

[solemn shell]

regalia of eochaid is weird but i genuinely do not know anything about the lore of that weapon so i cant say

[last wing]

I mean
I'm pretty sure Midra (and especially Nanaya) had deep faith in the Flame of Frenzy

[solemn shell]

i think more likely they were branded as heretics and punished with thorns in some way

[last wing]

So his incant scaling off faith can make sense

[willow valley]

49th Secret Art: Poke

[languid axle]

Man I hope I have enough points to spread post DlC to get arc high enough to use mariases sword that shit looks fun

[solemn shell]

it is interesting that arcane raises scaling on ailments even when its not like from an arcane source at all?

like it would increase the bleed buildup on a normal flail

there aint nothing arcane about that

so maybe its more like just being sick in the head

liking seeing people suffer

so like frenzy incants and stuff dont require arcane, but arcane increases the buildup cause you like seeing people go mad? idk its a stretch

[languid axle]

Wasn't the whole thing with midra like he was tryna not sucumb to the flames effects tho, and when the mance gets raided he willingly accepts his punishment to an extent? Cause like he explicitly tells you to go away when you get near his arena

[willow valley]

You will if you explore

[solemn shell]

gnnn'

oops

i meant hmmmm

im confused about midra ngl

he is definitely all for the flame of frenzy

[willow valley]

Yeah

[solemn shell]

probably just didnt want to become the lord of frenzy ?

why exactly is he getting punished

i always figured it was something to do with torturing himself to be more in tune with the frenzy

[last wing]

But he and Nanaya started an entire movement among the Hornsent to apparently worship the flame.

[willow valley]

The Executors are there to contain the Frenzy Flame, they're why he's impaled on the sword

[last wing]

Frenzied flame burns away even spirits, and the Hornsent normally hold spirits in divine regard, which is why the manse was raided by inquisitors.

[languid axle]

In my head I image arc as like dexs fucked up and evil brother that relies on less readily available tools and more niche ones

[solemn shell]

oh that explains why they're there

im guessing all the people stuck on stakes outside are also from that?

[languid axle]

Wait isn't that kind of like destined death?

Cause that thing can kill you permanently

[last wing]

Mhm

[solemn shell]

destined death is just

death

thats the concept of dying someday

[willow valley]

Yeah, pretty much

[languid axle]

Another parallel is
cause you can either use the flame of frenzy or destined death to burn the erdtree

[last wing]

Remember Jori the Inquisitor, the boss right there gatekeeping the rest of the woods? His staff is just what they use to impale

[languid axle]

Where TF is the woods?

[solemn shell]

you dont use destined death to burn the erdtree

you burn it before you even get to farum azula

[languid axle]

I'm not sure if I wanna go do it or stay as far away as possible

[willow valley]

You can use the Flame of Frenzy to burn the Erdtree, yeah

[solemn shell]

you have to go through a random dungeon somewhere after going through the shadow keep and taking an alternate path that takes you out in a weird backyard place

[last wing]

Then through a whole dungeon

[languid axle]

Oh the shadow keep is mesmers dungeon isn't it?

[solemn shell]

also yeah that makes sense

[solemn shell]

it is

you dont go through much of it before you get access to the woods

you only have to fight one boss, or none if you go the side route

it takes longer to go the side route though

and its confusing

[languid axle]

Aren't there weird giant bulbous enemies that can just insta kill you in the woods?

[willow valley]

Destined Death is a law of the universe, not the presence of an outter god

[solemn shell]

yeah its literally just

dying someday

which honestly makes it kinda even cooler that maliketh hits you with the concept of mortality

the reason it lowers your max health and has a distinct debuff at all is just video game as far as im concerned

not any bearing on lore

anyways destined death is messed up because of the elden ring shattering, thats why skeletons are everywhere and tibia mariners are leading them and stuff like that

[languid axle]

Right but it's just kinda odd how it parallels the frenzy flame alot

Both can kill what traditionally is undying
Both are something that ultimately stand in opposition to the golden orders eternal gold or whatever
And both are viable substitutes for each other in the final act of the game

[willow valley]

Actually it's messed up because Marika sealed it away

[solemn shell]

things are not traditionally undying, they were undying because destined death was not in place because of marika

im not sure if it kills a god or if you can just do that

[languid axle]

Right but in the general concept of the setting things dont usually die because of that

[solemn shell]

wouldnt be surprised if thats just something you can do

[last wing]

Also the frenzied flame doesn't just kill people it will melt everything
The very skies are melting in its ending

[solemn shell]

and also no, destined death is not something you use to burn the erdtree

you have to get destined death back in every ending

[languid axle]

You do?

Huh

[solemn shell]

burning the erdtree is something you do before you get destined death back

[languid axle]

If you can burn the erdtree down without it then why do you need it?

[solemn shell]

to restore the order iirc

[languid axle]

Then why would you need it in the frenzy ending if you're just gonna burn everything away anyways

[solemn shell]

gameplay wise, because you need to progress the gamestate

lore-wise i dont know if you do technically need it

its also possible you need it to kill marika

[willow valley]

The Night of the Black Knives was when Ranni managed to steal Destined Death, splitting it in two, allowing her to die the death of the body, and the Black Knives to make Godwyn die the death of the soul

[solemn shell]

actually yeah you probably just need it to kill marika

[willow valley]

Without it, the Erdtree cannot truly burn

[languid axle]

Ah

[solemn shell]

actually that makes sense

its not what burns the erdtree, but because the erdtree is undying you need to use that anti-undying thing

[last wing]

(Why burning the Erdtree at the furnace of the giants just straight up teleports you to farum azula, I don't think anyone really knows)

[solemn shell]

i will say there is a fire thing that is kinda parallel to the flame of frenzy

[languid axle]

If that's the case This makes me think it'd be really cool if malikeths black blade/incantation(?) worked like the storm ruler/serpent Hunter in the elden beast fight

Both for the lore and also cause it'd make elden beast less annoying when it flies off

[willow valley]

Iirc Melina sends you there

[solemn shell]

i think of it as melina's final act of guidance

[last wing]

Probably, but remember she will abandon you if you take the frenzied flame to yourself

[solemn shell]

i mean to be fair that weapon art does make the fight a lot easier lol

[willow valley]

True...

[solemn shell]

game stuff ig

[last wing]

So why would she send you there when you use yourself for the kindling?

[solemn shell]

maybe the forge just has a random portal to farum azula at the bottom

who knows

[willow valley]

Maybe the Frenzy Flame sends you there instead

[last wing]

Maybe

One of those fromsoft moments we can only guess on

[solemn shell]

i feel as if they didnt really think about it either

i mean its kinda fair, how else are you supposed to get to random floating sky place

without wrong-warping lol

[last wing]

Oh there's plenty of that throughout the whole souls series
It's still cool to think about it all from a lore perspective

[solemn shell]

yeah

just something i love about the series

[languid axle]

I wanna say I think if you go the route of frenzy there's a dialogue option at that site of grace that's different and going by the flame of frenzy itself instead of Melina teleporting you

Like I think that's an actual thing in game

[last wing]

If you go the route of frenzy Melina just fucks off entirely prior to that

[solemn shell]

i mean ultimately thats probably what happened, but you teleport at the end of the cutscene, not at the grace after the cutscene

you either burn yourself instead of melina, and then wake up at farum azula, or melina burns and you wake up at farum azula

[languid axle]

It's still kinda funny to me how you can get the flame of frenzy, burn the tree, then go to farum azula with milquelas needle in the plecisusax arena and poke yourself to negate the flames effect to essentially not have to make Melina burn

[solemn shell]

iirc the cutscene with melina seems more like her sending you somewhere, and the flame of frenzy cutscene doesnt really do anything about it

[solemn shell]

i mean its more just a way to get rid of a permanent thing that you didnt necessarily know was permanent

a takebacksies

[languid axle]

It's like what vyke tried doing, but if I wasn't a bum

[languid axle]

I mean yeah but from a lore perspective it's funny

[solemn shell]

ig a bit yeah

[languid axle]

Kinda wish the games acknowledged that in endings if you managed to pull that off but at the same time it makes sense why not

[solemn shell]

i still think its less about melina and more about not being touched by the flame of frenzy anymore

[solemn shell]

it would be cool if it was more of a questline than just something you can kinda do

[willow valley]

I mean, kinda a dick move ngl

[languid axle]

But then she gets to live

[solemn shell]

a storyline of thinking the frenzy is a good choice to avoid the death of melina, and then having a realization of some kind and knowing you need to become elden lord so you dont destroy the world, and thus going to remove the frenzy

she dies if you dont do the frenzy

[willow valley]

Her entire purpose is to use herself to burn the Erdtree

[solemn shell]

she lives if you do the frenzy

but she hates you now

[solemn shell]

i think this would be sick as a bit of characterization, but they kinda dont like doing characterization for the protag in fromsoft games

you're kinda supposed to do all that

one reason why sekiro is my favorite fromsoft protag

he's an actual person

[languid axle]

I feel like they could totally make a whole ending out of this tho

Like with the general vibe of "you can make your own purpose in life" or whatnot

[solemn shell]

i mean they kinda did

her whole purpose is killing you after that

[willow valley]

Only if you go through with the Frenzy Flame

[solemn shell]

yeah

[languid axle]

Cause being someone who was born by your parents explicitly so you can kill yourself at some point so some other schmuck can ascend to the throne is really morbid when you think about it

[solemn shell]

i mean yeah

it could have been handled a lot better ofc

melina in general is kinda missed potential

shes got a very interesting backstory and motivation that allows for lots of growth and an arc, but it doesnt really happen

i still like her but not as much as someone like millicent who has an entire arc and everything

[languid axle]

Idk i just think it'd be cool if the hypothetical best ending is one where you're tempted by what is ultimately the ultimate evil in the setting (the concept of uncreation itself) and what is prolly the worst ending, but by rejecting the call to nihilism by going out of your way you get a notably better ending

[solemn shell]

is it crazy to say i do not think thats the worst ending

in fact i think its the canon ending

[languid axle]

What is then?

[solemn shell]

i fully expect a sequel to jump off from that point

[languid axle]

Really?

[willow valley]

I mean, you can do that and then get Ranni ending for that story line

[solemn shell]

when i say i think, i mean i personally believe this

not like, to my knowledge they said its canon

its just my speculation and stuff

[languid axle]

I saw a person theorize the flame of frenzy ending leads to darks souls and the ranni ending leads to Bloodborne lmao

[solemn shell]

but i do believe its the most fitting springboard for any hypothetical sequel

[solemn shell]

its always gotta be connected man

[willow valley]

This is because people are stupid

And think the games are connected

[solemn shell]

i dont think its connected to any other fromsoft game

its elden ring

and thats that

[willow valley]

They literally made an alternative universe to make it true, mind you

[languid axle]

I mean idk I feel like it's fun to try and connect them as like a thought experiment

[solemn shell]

anything that is the same or similar is a reference, not a canonical "ooh its the same as that thing so its the sameuniverse!!!!"

its fun to make stupid theories yeah

thats always true

most people dont do it as a stupid theory tho, they actually think thats whats going on

[languid axle]

Like why DS bosses show up in nightreign and all dat

[solemn shell]

thats just fun nostalgia bait with a shallow vague explanation

nostalgia bait might not be the right word, kinda implies that its bad or smth

but still

[willow valley]

They show up because the Shattering ruptured space time in Nightreign continuity

[solemn shell]

nightreign is a very different kind of game so i dont hold it to the same lore stuff as other fromsoft games

its kinda just a fun experiment in my eyes

trying a vastly different gameplay style and bringing back some old bosses just for fun

man i need to play nightreign more

way too focused on monster hunter right now though

ive got almost 4 different mh games going at once

almost cause i dont really plan on gojng very far in frontier

though i am thinking of starting another playthrough of stories 2, so that would be a 4th

thats all irrelevant and im going to bed now goodnight chat

[willow valley]

See ya

[languid axle]

I mean personally I like the idea the night is kind of a embodiment for the concept of heat death and part of it as a measure to quell entropy is it to take entities from worlds/times it's already ended (namely DS) to quash those who resists it's tide

Kind of like what it does with the nightlords but that's me just speculating

https://youtu.be/gLbZRVIIaTE?feature=shared

Peak comedy

[last wing]

Marika's a bitch, so like
It tracks

[last wing]

Which is funny, because there's another theory that the dlc ending of Dark Souls 3 creates either ER or Bloodborne

[languid axle]

The idea of ER and DS being feedback loops on each other is mad funny

Like the DS3 dlc leads to ER, then the frenzy flame ending leads to DS, loop ad infinitum

[last wing]

Unga if you ever get DS3 we should seamless co op through that shit

I think that'd be mad funny

[languid axle]

Yes

How early can you get the sword

[last wing]

Which sword

[languid axle]

The sword

[last wing]

Oh

I'll have to look again later

[languid axle]

I crave the certainty of a comically large slab of metal in a world full of horrors both well beyond and in my grasp

[languid axle]

According to the wiki it's garron keep, how early is that

[last wing]

I know FUGS is a bit later

[last wing]

Very early. Could be your third area

[languid axle]

Splendid

https://youtu.be/YXg3WbPsoWU?feature=shared

Ngl I'm tempted to run over to the beast sanctum to smack the beast clergyman around to get his ancient dragon smithing stone to max my sword (cause I have no intention of doing his sidequest) but at the same time that feels kinda rude

[last wing]

You're just walking up and smacking him when he ain't done nothin to you that's crazy

[languid axle]

I haven't done it yet

I'm considering

[last wing]

Leave Gurranq alone man
In fact go ahead and give him some deathroot, there's incantations and a great faith/strength weapon behind it

[languid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

Where does one find ded root

[willow valley]

Mariners

And Catacombs

[languid axle]

Ok

I killed one on the altus plateau I think but dunno if he dropped death root

[solemn shell]

i dont think that one drops deathroot?

but iirc theres a catacomb really close that does

[summer valley]

Assuming you've spoken to Gurranq before, you'll get a dialogue prompt every time you enter a dungeon where you can find deathroot

If you want specific locations you'll have to look them up

[languid axle]

Ah neat

[languid axle]

How do I kill ancient dragon sanneseax

This bitch evil

WHY DOES ALL HER ATTACKS HAVE LIGHTING FOLLOWUPS?!?

[willow valley]

You ignore it

[last wing]

If this is the ancient dragon that you come across while climbing the jagged peak in the dlc, then they have followups because you're standing in water

[willow valley]

Nope

Their attacks are just like that

[last wing]

... No they're not

[languid axle]

Can I get rid of the water

[last wing]

I've lured them to a patch without water and they do not have the lightning aoes after

[last wing]

No

[willow valley]

Really?

I did that as well, and it still had the follow ups

[last wing]

Weird

They didn't for me, that's how I killed it first go around

Might have still been too close to the water?

[willow valley]

Maybe

[languid axle]

I lured it out of the water and it still did the followups

[last wing]

What the fuck

Dawg I could swear when I did it they lost them

[languid axle]

Nah NVM I locked in and won

Horsie for the win

[last wing]

Torrent the goat

I mean horse

[languid axle]

He got horns like a goat

[languid axle]

Its time

I give Igon aide on his divine quest

[languid axle]

Damn bayle got hand-

Wing-

...

Wing stubbies

Bayle has wing stubbies he's beating me to death with

[last wing]

https://tenor.com/view/bayle-elden-ring-curse-you-curse-you-bayle-igon-gif-8102587839544573256

[languid axle]

Wanna help me kill bayle?

I think I've come to a spicy take about bayle

Hed work way better as a MH Fight

Mostly on account of how I wish I had MHs camera right now

[willow valley]

Coldest take in the world, get back to draking

[languid axle]

It is?!?

Glad I'm not alone

If the mainline team weren't fucken around we could've had this guy in MHwilds and I'm mad we aren't in that superior timeline

[languid axle]

Decided to dick around in PVP by invading people

Everyone was friendly with waves n shit until the furled finger and I decided to have a honorable duel with lost of aura farming

I lost but managed to get off a quickstep>backstab on a iaido draw attack

My downfall is I lettem heal and I didn't lol

[last wing]

We could try, sure

You still on?

[languid axle]

...

You ain't gonna believe it

I just beat him

[last wing]

LMAO

Damn

[languid axle]

I prolly got a go get more scadutree fragments

I really wanna fucken like Bayle as a fight but I'm conflicted on him

[last wing]

He's one of the highest scaled bosses in the dlc

[languid axle]

Yeah he fucken gave me 3 levels

Honestly my gripe with him is less on the damage cause I've just kinda got a accept thems the brakes in the dlc

It's moreso how it feels like the camera in his fight is a gnarly catch 22

You wanna lock on to dodge flying attacks easier

[last wing]

Most dragon bosses tbf

[languid axle]

But locking on means you lose free aim

[languid axle]

If I could lock onto his misshapen horribly mangled and kinda pudgy body literally all my issues would be remedied

Also unrelated can you sell/use dragon hearts to get runes?

That or if I had the MH camera where I hit a button to focus the camera on him would also wholly solve the issues I have

Cause the worst thing he can do when you free aim is jump off your screen and attack while you're adjusting

Made me learn the dodge timing on his fade back tail spin tho lmao

Also unrelated what's in the fort of reprimand?

[last wing]

Sadly no

[last wing]

Ash of war (Crucible wings), iris of occultation, uhhhhh
I don't recall anything else of much worth

[solemn shell]

rune of marika

its like 80k runes iirc

[last wing]

Ohhhh yeah

[solemn shell]

honestly i just dont lock on at all in dragon fights

its better if you dont

[languid axle]

Oh

Where

[solemn shell]

its just somewhere in there

theres like a body piling place and its on the biggest pile

theres like one or two omenkillers there

[languid axle]

I got it

Ngl I imagined a extra 0 there on it and got excited lol

Ah well basically free level is still basically free lvl

Now that I've killed bumayle

Where TF I go now

[last wing]

Whats your map look like

[languid axle]

Not filled in at all cause idk where to find the maps

Might bum around and look for scadu fragments

Cause my biggest general takeaway with the dlc so far is "game fun, enemies hit too hard tho"

Like genuinely I feel like I'd enjoy all the fights more if the DMG was less severe

... y'know

That makes me wonder

Is scadutree lvl carried over to NG+?

[solemn shell]

i dont think so

starting at a level other than 0 would be a bit too overpowered

[languid axle]

Ok so I think I know what I need to do

Fight dry leaf Dane so I can beat people to death

I gotta get it for the Godfrey fight

[austere crow]

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[languid axle]

Got to messmer

Bro is kicking my ass

[last wing]

He's peak tho

[languid axle]

His fire aoe on his swings fucked me up

I gottem

[last wing]

Nice

Future reference, dodge into those, not away

There's even a couple swings you can jump over

[languid axle]

Ok now I gotta ask

Where TF I go?

I got a go get the hornsent guy's quest done so he doesn't jump me at the lead boss

[last wing]

You found Midra yet?

Metyr?

Putrescent Knight?

[languid axle]

None of that

[last wing]

Scadutree Avatar?

[languid axle]

I waddled up to the shadow keep

And I beat up messmer

[last wing]

Wanna summon me?

I can show you midra's direction

Or any of them

[languid axle]

Maybe later cause I'm in bed

[last wing]

Ah lol

[hexed delta]

😔

[last wing]

😔

[rose oracle]

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[languid axle]

I discovered a very funny Grinding spot in the DLC

If you go to rauh ruins East site of grace you can ride your horse down the bridge past the shadow guys, aggro the furnace golem, run back and wait till the golem locks onto you with his fire Kamehameha attack , run over to the grace site and when it fires it wait till it hits the last enemy then quickly enter and exit the site of grace

The fire beam stays out and rekills all the enemies, giving approximately 22k runes with the scarab in like, 30 seconds

[languid axle]

Aight so I'm in eneirm tower something or whatever in the dlc methinks I'm nearing the end

I'm prolly gonna do tholliers quest and then run over to the frenzied flame village or whatever wherever those things are

Then I kill miquella

Then back to the base game

Might rummage around for more scadutree fragments

[last wing]

Dawg you're skipping like half of the dlc

Also have you done Ansbach's quest?

[languid axle]

Yes that was priority numero uno cause sir ansbach is the fucken goat

[languid axle]

Also am I?

I've fought most the big area bosses I think except the scadutree avatar and midra I think

And hell from what it sounds like the scadutree avatar seems more like a hidden boss off the shadow keep somewhere

So really the big area I'm missing is the manse

And also wherever tf st Trina is

[solemn shell]

you're missing a lot of areas trust me

[languid axle]

I did a decent bit in ER today even though I barely played

I unlocked the big tower by killing the weird scarlet centipede thing, beat the hornsent guy up (it was a self defense ass kicking) and managed to find a funny exp grind spot

Genuinely tho I'm kinda at a loss as to what to start dumping stats into lol

I'm at 60 hp which is like, the peak iirc, cause after that it's hella diminishing returns

....I think

And I'm at 40 endurance so idk how much more of that I'll really need

Don't need mind cause I pretty much entirely use quickstep which takes like, 3 FP to use and I have nearly 90 atm

Really all I can think is either more endurance to carry a shitton of extra weapons, or start re leveling dex to get the bolt of Granasax back

Rn I'm at like, 13 (?)

I need 40

Ideally I beat the dlc as much as I care to then spread all my levels about so I can use a wide assortment of weapons I've gained (mainly the moonlight GS if imma be real)

So my idea was to kill the big main remembrance bosses then go on from there

[pure valley]

have you gotten to the peaks or the depths?

[languid axle]

I murderized Bayle yes

He's simultaneously a super sick boss but also a huge pain in my ass

On one hand a lot of his attacks are sick as fuck

On the other to dodge them good you want lock on, but lock on Vs Bayle makes attacks harder to hit, so you have this weird ultimatum of harder time dodging or harder time hitting

Like if he was in MH with that camera system and like that games GS moveset he'd easily be fantastic, no notes

But as he is he feels like prolly my second favorite boss in the dlc rn?
He's definitely up there

I really liked Rellana but did not like mesmer

Mostly cause I feel like messmer has alot more "what the fuck do I do here even?" attacks

Oh yeah

Meteyr

Gotta go get my double dipping spell and incantation stick

[pure valley]

gotta fight peak

[languid axle]

I think I'm gonna go do tholliers quest, then meteyrs, then go to the manse

[last wing]

Which is crazy to me because he's one of the few ones in a long time to feel super intuitive and fair, he's like, in the top 5 soulslikes fights imo.

[last wing]

You also haven't beaten Gaius either I assume, he's gatekeeping like 5 scadutree fragments behind him.

[languid axle]

Idk Id be outside the range of his slashes but the fire would creep up off the slash, Nick me ever so slightly and suddenly I'm half dead

Also I genuinely have no clue how to dodge the multi stabby and the big snake floor is lava(?) move

[languid axle]

Where

That's going on the list

[last wing]

That's why you dodge into the fire swipes, not away

[pure valley]

back

[last wing]

Also, again, you dodge into him to avoid the muli stabs, timing's a bit tight but it's not impossible, and if you're close enough you just go right behind him.

The big snake move is avoided by getting away from him during the startup and then watching the snake's mouths to know the dodge timings

[last wing]

He's out behind the Shadow Keep, but to get to him is a path that runs past the Church of Manus Metyr.

[solemn shell]

yeah you wanna dodge into like, a lot of the attacks in this game

[languid axle]

Is there a site of grace by the metyr place?

[willow valley]

There's one inside the church

[languid axle]

I might go that way, get the boss with scadutree shards, then double back to meteyrs quest cause RN I have like no runes so if I die I do not care at all

[willow valley]

Gaius is near one of the abysmal dogshit horns anyways

[languid axle]

What abysmal dogshit horn?

[willow valley]

The ones you need to blow to fight the abysmal dogshit boss

[solemn shell]

oh the finger

[languid axle]

Chicken finger?

[languid axle]

https://youtu.be/Zb0NflnXaBA?si=F_yyvQOJgnuZq6f9

There we go

What's a good level from the end of the dlc, rn I'm at 170 smth

[willow valley]

I typically stop leveling at the 160-165 range because I enjoy PvP, but there's really no need to stop leveling if you don't want to

[languid axle]

Im not going to stop because I want to multiclass

Gonna straight up DMC some mfers

[languid axle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AJ9ngfTBN2I?si=cIaE3rM5uJq6gNom

Good Lord WHY IS HE THIS COOL

[hexed delta]

to fight the best boss in the game

with no flaws

Midra is mid

Metyr is peak

[willow valley]

Absolutely nothing wrong with it

[languid axle]

Well his name is midra so I guess that tracks

[hexed delta]

how does SoTE have so many good fights

yet so many terrible ones

if every fight was like ||Rellana, Midra, or Messmer,|| the DLC would be so peak

[willow valley]

Fr

[languid axle]

The weird centipede one was piss easy lol

I literally just got snug up next to it, charge attack, dodge and repeat, get stagger and repeat till dead

It took like 2 attempts

[solemn shell]

i mean its just like base game

more good ones tho imo

and the good ones are better than the good ones in base game

[hexed delta]

true

I think SoTE is good

I had a fun time with it

but yeah

[solemn shell]

it tipped the scales for me so elden ring is my favorite soulsborne game now

[pure valley]

I was watching my friend play, and he was so surprised when it dropped a rembrance

[solemn shell]

uh romina?

[last wing]

Honestly yeah I was too

She has no fuckin buildup anywhere and the only way you can tell that was her in the dlc trailer is the spear

[north otter]

I'm itching for another Elden Ring challenge run

something like RL1 or WL0

Maybe... RL1WL0

[languid axle]

Idk what either of those mean

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[willow valley]

Rune Level 1

Weapon Level 0

[north otter]

ye

[languid axle]

CHRIST

That sounds miserable

[north otter]

WL0 was peak

[languid axle]

My ass is too much of a weeny to even attempt it

[north otter]

got to use my fav weapon

[willow valley]

Challenge runs are fun

I like doing single weapon runs

[north otter]

antspur rapier my beloved

[languid axle]

Man now I feel like a bum

I thought that R1 runs meant you only use light attacks

[willow valley]

Where the goal is to get to any given weapon doing the least amount of other stuff possible

[north otter]

trust me I used mimic tear way more than I prolly should've on my first run

[willow valley]

And then have fun with the weapon

Euporia was especially fun, because I got to learn Euporia skip

[languid axle]

That's basically what I did with the guts sword

[north otter]

antspur rapier is so dumb for WL0, 3 status effects in one attack

[languid axle]

I wonder can you get that pre morgott 1?

[willow valley]

YEah

[north otter]

yeah

[willow valley]

You literally just walk to it

[north otter]

you can get almost every weapon pre margit

[languid axle]

Man

I thought I had to kill his ass

[north otter]

there's an alt path to liurnia

[languid axle]

Wait

[willow valley]

Guts sword is in Caelid

[languid axle]

Can you skip margit entirely, go to morgott, kill him then double back?

[willow valley]

Potentially

[north otter]

if you encounter morgott, the margit encounter doesn't happen

iirc

[languid axle]

Ah man

[willow valley]

But you could kill Godrick after Morgott

[north otter]

yeah

[languid axle]

Man I got a climb to the top of the calid tower to get radahns great rune amped up

[north otter]

i could do minimum bosses

how many are required again?

[languid axle]

I went to the basement to get the sodslayer sword (it's at +9 and I barely use it )

[languid axle]

2 shard bearers, morgott, all the shit getting to and thru crumbling farum azula, and then the final gauntlet I think?

[north otter]

it's 11, right? ||Radahn, Mohg, DTS, Pissfrey, Morgott, Fire Giant, Godskin Duo, Maliketh, Gideon, Godfrey, Radabeast||

[languid axle]

Oh

[north otter]

Radahn first boss would be nutty

[languid axle]

He's pissfrey

Cause he yellow

[north otter]

yeah

[languid axle]

[north otter]

seems only the first 2 bosses are troublesome

alright, I gotta at least try that

||mohg|| second boss is gnarly tho

[solemn shell]

only 3 shard bearers are required, and one of them has to be morgott

mohg being the second boss doesnt make sense cause you'd have to kill either godrick (which requires margit) or commander niall to get there

[willow valley]

?

[solemn shell]

and commander niall requires both dts and morgott and 2 shardbearers

[willow valley]

You don't need to kill Godrick to fight Mohg

You just need to kill a shardbearer

[solemn shell]

you need to kill him to fight him early

oh what

i didnt know that

okay i guess that does make sense then

the list entirely makes sense then

though iirc you can skip dts? with a glitch

and morgott

[willow valley]

I mean, there's the cheese

[solemn shell]

theres also a glitch to get past the door im pretty sure

there definitely is for morgott

weapon swap stuff

hmm

you might need weapons that are from bosses for the weapon swap

not sure

technically you could zip past like all of the bosses

i dont remember how many are needed with that method

but that also feels like a bit too much

[north otter]

this is glitchless

with glitches you could do it in like 2

[solemn shell]

well with zips

it would be a bit more interesting without zips

[willow valley]

With zips it's like

Maliketh

Godfrey

Radabeast

[solemn shell]

cause you need certain weapons to get past certain walls iirc

you might need black knife?

and thats a boss kill on its own

you also might need uh

hand of malenia

but lets not talk about that

i just think its interesting how the setups for certain glitches could change the route where you skip certain bosses but you have to fight extra bosses to access the glitch

[tribal dagger]

Do yall like Ds1

[solemn shell]

i hate that game

i dont plan on playing it again

[tribal dagger]

Why

[solemn shell]

really dont like the enemy placements, none of the bosses are fun besides like 2 or 3, its annoying not having fast travel until the second half of the game, estus keeps you locked in place, its too easy in general, its very easy to get lost, lockon is broken, theres jank everywhere

i have many reasons to dislike it

not to say that i think others should dislike it too

its just not for me as much as the newer games

[north otter]

I DID IT

I started minimum bosses

beat mohg

as the third boss

I might be shimothy

did like 100 damage per hit

[north otter]

Beat the run btw

took like 6h i think?

[languid axle]

The fuck you mean you already beat the game

6Hrs is nutty

[willow valley]

It's not super hard if you know what you're doing

And low% runs are typically fast

[languid axle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/k0wGMKMt1bs?si=A4khZZgmfPyeq0It

[woven hearth]

isnt ER any% like 2 hours?

52 mins lol

[vital schooner]

Glitchless or nah

[hexed delta]

the glitched version

is like

3 minutes

https://youtu.be/ZFf4APizCs4?si=r8UM_4kDQE-9zywZ

[north otter]

Damn

I forgot how dumb bayle/the combat in general can be

why does from still hold on to that archaic "dodge on button release" thing?

It's a tiny thing but once you hit 1500+ hours on these games it gets more and more noticable

also fuck roars in ER

[solemn shell]

i like it tbh

[languid axle]

@last wing

https://youtu.be/MWK8-sYXRyc?si=iayl9XX_vm2y-OB5

Oh dear God he's wylding out

Where did he even find 16 vtubers?!?

[last wing]

Bro went searching for them

[languid axle]

Im just imagining maxor like doing advanced Wylder schmovement to grab vtubers as soon as possible

[solemn shell]

well where did sajam grab all of them

they probably both went to the vtuber store

"hello i would like 16 vtubers please"

[languid axle]

Watching the video I can see what Maxor did wrong

He didn't play Wylder and lock in hard enough

Alright chat wacky hypothetical time

Would you rather
Beat your least favorite souls like game solo in a whole run in one sitting

Or have to babysit/hard carry 16 vtubers in nightreign

[willow valley]

Well

I've done the first

At least 50 times

So probably that

[languid axle]

Right but you do it again on a fresh save

[willow valley]

Yeah

Of course

[languid axle]

Personally I'm taking the nightreign

Cause if I don't then by default Im just gonna start a new run through base ER again

I haven't even finished it yet on my first run lmao

[solemn shell]

first one

wait

you said soulslike

no i dont want to play lords of the fallen

[willow valley]

I should replay the Convergence

[vital schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingMemes/s/xL5JKBJpjW

[swift raptor]

https://vxreddit.com/r/EldenRingMemes/s/xL5JKBJpjW

[vital schooner]

I think this is photoshopped but I can't prove it

[willow valley]

The OG Giant Dad's name

[solemn shell]

so who did the original giant dad?

iirc the first time i saw it was from an infernoplus video?

maybe ymfah

okay that was close

h is too close to g on my keyboard and i type too fast

i am glad i looked that over before pressing enter

i think i found the original video

this is the most 2010s thing i have ever seen

[willow valley]

OnlyAfro

[solemn shell]

yeah i did find that

[vital schooner]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/gaming/s/eYGqiKmQrM

[solemn shell]

reminds me

https://tenor.com/view/joshwak-dark-souls-skill-issue-elden-ring-ball-gif-4526736484649384231

these orbs are just peak comedy man

[paper otter]

When I first saw one on my blind playthrough I said to my friend watching “what if the Ball is the enemy loll” then hit the focus target only for it to mark it as an enemy and it was maybe the funniest moment in the whole game for me

[solemn shell]

and this is at least the second time a ball has been an enemy lol

[woven hearth]

On the souls of everyone iin this thread, we hate the Bumcer of the Bore-eal valley

[solemn shell]

i like her

[bronze compass]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-lights-gif-8635402

[willow valley]

The Blowjob Brothers definitely do not have the entire second half of the game left

[vital schooner]

is there some sort of challenge you guys are doing along side this

[willow valley]

Randomizer

[vital schooner]

randomizer and forced to use what you pick up right?

[willow valley]

But also you can just do both DLCs back to back out of the chapel of the deep

[willow valley]

Just a randomizer

[woven hearth]

use what you pick would be fun

[willow valley]

Could be, maybe next time

[woven hearth]

It is done

[willow valley]

L Bozo

[woven hearth]

Yorhms cinders dropped ffrom nameless king

The doll from Sister friede

[willow valley]

The Transposing Kiln in Undead Settlement

Basin in Undead Settlement

Two Cinders from merchants

[last wing]

Are all the bosses in the same place?

[woven hearth]

yeah

we didnt randomize that

[willow valley]

We can do a full randomizer when you want to join us, Helios

[vital schooner]

does anyone know the lore of midra and whys its such a weird ass encounter

[languid axle]

As far as I understand it he was betrayed and locked in the manse for thousands of years because he was fucking around with the frenzied flame too much and the hornsent were having none of it

https://tenor.com/view/timed-out-goku-chained-time-chamber-dragon-ball-gif-9924745199902768088

Then the reason why he tries to get us to just leave him alone is because he's trying his absolute damnedest to not give into the flame but we FAFO hence the phase 2

Then again I'm not 100% sure on the lore so that's prolly moreso a Helios/axalu question

[woven hearth]

that´s the gist of it

the thornsent sent the inquisition becase anytype of fire was seen as heresy

[languid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-monty-python-spanish-inquisition-walk-in-gif-17117394

[willow valley]

He's the emissary of the Frenzy Flame, and fire no matter the type was seen as heresy by the Hornsent, so they sent their Inquisition to seal it away, the issue with that was the Frenzy Flame had saturated the manse very shortly after the sealing ritual had been performed. Shifting all life within the Manse over time until they're the strange creatures you encounter within, alongside ensnaring the minds of 90% of the Inquisitors. Which is why the spirit of Jori is being used to seal the entirety of the Manse away from the rest of the Schadulands. Midra himself made a promise to his wife that he wouldn't succumb to the flames, which you witness him breaking when he enters phase 2.

[woven hearth]

the promise could also bee seen as his penitence

as he had to endure the pain for practically foreever

[willow valley]

It was multiple decades at least, probably

[languid axle]

"I swear I'm not going to give into the flames of frenzy"

Midra gives into the flames of frenzy

[willow valley]

Yeah

Because you kill him

[woven hearth]

i expect thee time scale in this games to be fucked, so i wouldn be surprised if it was centuries

[willow valley]

Allowing the Frenzy Flame to fully manifest

[willow valley]

True

[woven hearth]

Also Nanaya had their spine?

[willow valley]

It could also be that Nanaya wanted Midra to fall to the Frenzy Flame in a similar way to what Yura does to the player

I doubt it

But there is a possibility

[languid axle]

Ngl the idea nanaya wanted midra to give in, but midra misunderstood what she meant and instead endured for way longer is a hilarious idea

[last wing]

To add on to this, the Frenzied Flame was even more blasphemous to the Hornsent because unlike other fire it even burns away spirits and ashes, which are revered and considered divine by the Hornsent. So them coming and finding a group of their people led by Midra embracing the frenzy, you can imagine the massacre that the Inquisitors proceeded to make.

[willow valley]

Indeed

[vital schooner]

Ok but how does he survive with that weapon through him

[willow valley]

The Frenzy Flame is forcefully keeping him alive as far as I'm aware

[last wing]

I'd assume that as well but this is also a world where people are just undying most of the time and are walking rotting corpses. I wouldn't think about it too much

[languid axle]

Tis but a scratch

[last wing]

Although it probably definitely is the frenzied flame lying dormant in him and keeping him alive. Remember the lineup of decapitated corpses in front of the manse? We can read from midra's remembrance weapon that it was a common way for the inquisitors to execute blasphemers.

[solemn shell]

probably a mix of that and just the fact that destined death is gone

[hexed delta]

you can enter the DLC prior to ||killing Maliketh||

iirc

[willow valley]

You can enter the DLC on your third boss

[hexed delta]

you can get to Mohg by Liurnia

and Radahn can be pretty early as well

especially if you exploit the glitch

[willow valley]

Radahn can be your first

[last wing]

I've done this actually

Very funny

[solemn shell]

dont you need to kill godrick

[willow valley]

No

It can be any shardbearer

[solemn shell]

man ive lived a lie

well yeah

in that case radahn and mohg can be your first and second boss

insane

[willow valley]

Yeah

Typically you get Bloodhound's first though

[solemn shell]

laaaame

get the guts greatsword

kill greyoll with a flail or reduvia or smth

[hexed delta]

Mohg is a pretty hard second boss

[solemn shell]

eh

[hexed delta]

but he's also the best base game boss

so it's worth it

[solemn shell]

you can get to somber 9 before a boss

[hexed delta]

true

and bloodhound's is broken

[solemn shell]

even without bloodhound

[willow valley]

Yep

[hexed delta]

especially with bleed

[solemn shell]

wouldnt be too difficult

[hexed delta]

since Mohg is very weak to it

[willow valley]

It's just goated

[solemn shell]

i need to do this playthrough

[hexed delta]

peak weapon

until the DLC

where you get an even cooler version

[solemn shell]

fire knight greatsword?

[hexed delta]

meteoric ore

[solemn shell]

oh eh

weapon art stick

[hexed delta]

the base moveset is pretty good too

r2 being a poke is so nice

it's the same as the zwei

[solemn shell]

i dont like r2 poke personally

[hexed delta]

fair

I personally really like it

especially since the r1 is already a sweeping attack

the r2 also does pierce damage

which is pretty nice

on top of having more range

and great damage

[willow valley]

Poke R2s are so goated

[hexed delta]

they really are

I didn't know what I was missing

[last wing]

God I love this sword actually

[hexed delta]

until I had it

[willow valley]

Counterhits and better headsniping too

[solemn shell]

same its my favorite

[hexed delta]

fully charged r2s feel so good

they do like

4k damage

[last wing]

It's got a poke r2 AND the moveset of the godslayer greatsword it's peak

[solemn shell]

its got a poke?

i thought i remembered it having the upward slash kinda r2

[last wing]

Wait

I may be stupid hang on

[solemn shell]

i dont know really

you could very well be right

[last wing]

What's r2 refer to

[willow valley]

Charged attack

The first one, specifically

[last wing]

Okay so I was right it does have a poke heavy attack

[hexed delta]

r1 light r2 heavy

[solemn shell]

huh weird

well i still love it

iirc i had giant hunt on it

[last wing]

That's what I thought I just got confused and second guessed myself

[solemn shell]

giant hunt is an underrated weapon art

absolutely cooks any npc fight

including real people lol

[bronze compass]

chat

should i buy the old hunters

[willow valley]

Yes

[hexed delta]

Yes

it is the best part of bloodborne

by far

[vital schooner]

wow

hey now

the best part of bloodborne is experiencing it for the first time

[hexed delta]

yes

especially the old hunters

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[tribal dagger]

It's my goat

[woven hearth]

it just dawned on me that the rolling attack of the claws in ds1 is a reference to vega from streets

[rancid siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7GO1FjenwI

[willow valley]

God damn

That's fucking sick

[rancid siren]

from steam of course

a lil disappointing that there's presumably no new map or multiple shifting earths but the dlc aint that expensive so ehhhh

[willow valley]

A new map would've been really nice, but a new shifting earth is probably gonna add a bunch of seeds, so

At least

[rancid siren]

it looks massive so yeah

[willow valley]

I'm hoping they'll add a bunch of seeds

[rancid siren]

if it's meant to be the entire blue crater area with the crystal then that's like a huge chunk of the map

[willow valley]

Seems kinda similar to volcano in a way

[rancid siren]

it also looks a lil like the circle for it ends in the middle of a divine tower

with part with the dancing lion

[willow valley]

The new Nightfarers seem like they're gonna be turbo insane

[rancid siren]

also they added new castles and stuff

so we're getting some much needed variety in limgrave with POIs on top of new bosses and events

also finally they added shadow of the erdtree stuff

[willow valley]

Indeed

[rancid siren]

there's so many bosses from that dlc that'd work great in nightreign

[willow valley]

Wonder if we'll get any other bosses besides Dancing Lion

[rancid siren]

death knight, dancing beast, scadutree avatar, romina

[willow valley]

Midra on god fr fr

[rancid siren]

midra would get stomped with 3 players...

[willow valley]

Yeah, but he'd be really cool to have in the game

[rancid siren]

[willow valley]

Not like Artorias wouldn't also get destroyed by 3 players

[rancid siren]

tbf midra gets staggered really easy in base er

[willow valley]

Also

Not gonna lie

[rancid siren]

i imagine artorias being really tanky

[willow valley]

I dislike that they added Artorias ngl

Well

Dislike is probably too strong a word

[hexed delta]

they're adding dancing lion??

😔

[rancid siren]

i dont rly mind it cuz if the dreglord has anything to do with the dreg stuff from ds3 then the dlc's gonna have alot of dark stuff

[hexed delta]

hopefully they fix the camera

at least

[willow valley]

Yeah, watch the dlc trailer

[rancid siren]

imagine they add the second dancing lion with the basilisks and deathblight

[willow valley]

Not the abysmal dogshit lion

[rancid siren]

tbf they'd finally have a second deathblight boss in the game...

that one talisman would have more reason to exist lol

[hexed delta]

they should add the hippo boss

everyone's favorite

[willow valley]

That's already in the game Seri

[hexed delta]

is it actually

my bad

I can't believe they added it

[willow valley]

Yeah, you blow it up in three seconds for extra runes as the circle closes 90% of the time

[rancid siren]

does the version with crucible knight do the phase 2 hedgehog thing i dont remember

if not they should add that hippo

[willow valley]

No, thankfully

Kinda real

[last wing]

None of them do the porcupine phase
I'm going to guess that the non boss hippos were originally cut content for base ER, same with the demihuman swordsman, before SotE.

[willow valley]

It wouldn't surprise me if they were

[last wing]

Okay now I watched that trailer

https://tenor.com/view/man-im-dead-malenia-elden-ring-dead-death-gif-17439259328617278383

[willow valley]

You think it was that bad?

[last wing]

Oh no I thought it looked great

[solemn shell]

and i already have this cause i got the deluxe edition

ill watch this later

[willow valley]

Same

I will say, this shit looks like it's gonna be so fucking sick

[rancid siren]

same

[willow valley]

The artbook and OST was too tempting

[rancid siren]

gotta be inspired by ivory king

i wonder how this is gonna work like if you pull some on your side or only a few are out at a singular time or if they're gonna come in one at a time like four kings

maybe all 7 at once for phase 2

[willow valley]

Ivory King if it was somehow even better

[willow valley]

Maybe killing them turns them on to your side?

[rancid siren]

maybe

[willow valley]

They probably won't be absurdly strong