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viscid cedar
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kinda want to believe its just yap to draw in investors but idk

solemn shell
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a lot of things like that have been using ai as a tool for a while, its not necessarily a bad thing depending on how its used

viscid cedar
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AI is the new autotune I feel like

solemn shell
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it'll probably just look bad if they do overuse it

viscid cedar
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most people are eventually going to let go of flaming companies for using AI to slightly speed up some of animation process

solemn shell
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hopefully yeah

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its annoying that stuff like generative ai and chatgpt gave ai such a bad name tho

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when they dont even really count

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it is used badly in a lot of situations but its not always bad like the other stuff

viscid cedar
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AI as a term is a bit broad as of now

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like so many companies say they're integrating AI into their own work and if you dig deeper its some algorithm they've been using since 2017

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its mostly just a term to draw in investors that are tech illiterate

solemn shell
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yeah

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its a buzzword now

last wing
viscid cedar
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me when I learn that Miyazaki used AI in the making of soldier of Godrick fight

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(he has an AI)

languid axle
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Chat

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I bought the game

solemn shell
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peak

languid axle
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Depending on how this strive patch is I might be nighting my reigns

woven hearth
last wing
willow valley
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Unga

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The Night fares or smtn

languid axle
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Sometimes this week we need to kill mfers

willow valley
willow valley
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Tricephalos Everdark is peak

woven hearth
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agree

willow valley
languid axle
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It appears night reign is peak

languid axle
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This guy got da funny rock

willow valley
rancid siren
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|| the callbacks to heolster in the fight are peak ||

last wing
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I will say, ||I think the damage feels just a bit on the absurd side even without the buffs. Also hitting him during his self buffing walk should have a bigger visual indicator||

rancid siren
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|| im getting one shot by him at full health by multiple moves... ||

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|| playing executor mind you but i literally saw my guardian friend have it happen too lmao ||

pure valley
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Hes got some jank

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Why cant i spoiler it

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Fuk

willow valley
last wing
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Okay so after about 240 hours on nightreign I've come to the conclusion that I still love it, the gameplay loop is my favorite part, and the nightlord quality is generally very good, and everdark cycles have been fun. But, there's a lot to be improved here and with how big this game blew up I hope they do some of what I'm about to say.
There should be at least one more map, maybe two, based off Liurnia or Altus Plateau, and perhaps a Land of Shadow one if we're being hopeful. The current one is great but once you know the layout the novelty of it wears off.
There should be variety and tiers to camps, cathedrals, and forts that spawn in. Let's say you're wanting to hit a nearby fort, thinking it will be the easy abductor virgin or single knight inside. You get there and it's actually a fort more similar to the swampy one found in base game ER, complete with cleanrot knights. The reward of course should be bigger for these but it would also add even more unpredictability into runs and offer risk reward situations more often.
Speaking of unpredictability, there really isn't much of a good reason that certain events and bosses are tied to certain seeds. I say let Libra invade whenever the hell he wants, let the night hordes appear more often wherever, and let the night bosses be literally any of them.
More boss and enemy variety would also be great to have, there's still quite a few nightreign just doesn't have right now even only from the base game of ER, not counting shadow of the erdtree yet. A few more dark souls encounters would also be welcome, throw the Fume Knight and the Old Demon King in or something.
And as for weapon variety, please to God expand it with the SOTE weapons. And make at least one legendary per weapon class that's in there, example being that Guardian not having a single amazing halberd to look forward to is kinda ass (this can easily be solved by making a current one legendary and also putting in the budding halberd you get from Romina).
There's still a few more concerns but those are my biggest wishes.

last wing
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention there's still some more crazy ideas to use for shifting earths. Farum Azula, Leyndell, Deeproot Depths, Shadow Keep, Ceruelean Coast...

solemn shell
rancid siren
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shit gets old so quick when every madness camp is the madness troll or lightning camps are just the leyndell knights

solemn shell
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lightning camps are leyndell nights, ruins are beastmen

rancid siren
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yeah

solemn shell
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it sucks knowing exactly what to expect in every place

rancid siren
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but there can easily be way more options there

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also just

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they could easily fit in dark souls enemies to these camps and areas too

solemn shell
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yeah

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that would go hard actually

rancid siren
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imagine in the dlc you have a dragon incant themed character and they add dragon camps with the dragon guys from ds3

solemn shell
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but uhhh

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i feel like it has less of a lore reason

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it makes sense the big bosses would be brought here by the nightlords to stop the nightfarers, why would they bring the smallfry too

rancid siren
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just say it's their minions or say they leaked into limveld with those big bosses

pure valley
solemn shell
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that reminds me

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i havent gotten a margit invasion literally since the playtest

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never had it in the full game

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i think

rancid siren
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i saw dragonkin like every 2 runs for every everdark before libra it drove me insane

solemn shell
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yeah i saw him a lot too

last wing
willow valley
willow valley
last wing
willow valley
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Yrue

woven hearth
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its the most under utilized area in the game

woven hearth
last wing
languid axle
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As someone who hasn't played a lot of nightreign I think it'd be cool if higher end relics let you get alternate starting weapons, nothing above like a blue rarity but it'd be cool to have a way to ensure you get a certain weapon you like, especially if they let you pair it with the starting weapon skill swap relics

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Idk relics in general seem like they have a lot of fun potential if they wanna expand on the system

rancid siren
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tried out some of those evergaol buffs...

pure valley
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Hmmm

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Bleed

willow valley
rancid siren
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yeah it's with the seppuku buff on top of all that

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where you self inflict bleed for the passive buff that executor has

pure valley
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You get like godlike relics or something?

solemn shell
rancid siren
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i dont got anything special for relics besides evergaol and the holy dmg for starting weapon ones (doing everdark gladius obv) but i also got a couple of 14% full hp dmg buffs on some of my weapons

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it was kinda crazy

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and iirc i got the flask restoration buff so i was mostly always at full hp

languid axle
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Rachadaan the goatmane vs midlania, bum of Miquelame

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I fucking HATE those two character-wise they stinky in the lore

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Been on a elden ring lore video kick cause of night reign (I should go back to playing normal ER top ngl) and I remembered how much they both SUCK

languid axle
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Til Raider has a unique moveset on beeg weapons lol

last wing
rancid siren
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im pretty sure ironeye has a unique moveset

last wing
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Idk I've not used a bow on anyone else

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In that case tho then it's just Recluse

languid axle
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How viable is using smithing stones to upgrade the starting weapons?

rancid siren
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it's very viable and good if you have a relic to add the damage type the nightlord is weak to

willow valley
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Very

languid axle
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Id like to try raider with quickstep on his starting weapon with the relics I got

last wing
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If you find nothing better then smithing stones are great

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I've gone plenty of runs with no good greatshields as Guardian so upgrading his starting one was a must

rancid siren
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it's especially strong on executor because you can also put seppuku on your starting weapon to activate his passive ability for bonus damage

quick cosmos
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Triple Iron eye is fun ngl

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Cheesy, but fun

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I've yet to try out guardian and duchess, but everyone I've played as seems pretty fun.

languid axle
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I've only ungad and bungad

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Ooga booga

last wing
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Constant boss stagger and nobody is taking significant damage

quick cosmos
languid axle
rancid siren
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Triple any char is cheesy

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When everdark Libra came out I was running triple revenant and we were there for like 20-30 mins fighting for our lives

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Just reviving over and over with the ult lol

solemn shell
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she's got a special quick cast that you can do when you cast after some actions

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kinda like how carian slicer and bestial sling work with rolls in elden ring

vital schooner
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how good are you guys at following disjointed story telling like how fromsoft does it. no matter how hard i try i need to rely on the lore video channels

viscid cedar
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for Elden Ring I think just reading a decent amount of the item descriptions are good enough to figure out the gist

pure valley
languid axle
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What are they implying?

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Releasing it on 9/11?

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"heolster, a nightfarer has hit the second sorcerers rise"

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-Gladius, the goodest boi, prolly

last wing
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It's crazy that we've been making these jokes and now they just go and do that

languid axle
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Man if only my parents also played night reign the update would be a good anniversary gift SOLKEKW

last wing
languid axle
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2 Years before it happened lmao

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Big yikes

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Poor luck is genetic on my dads side methinks SOLKEKW

vital schooner
solemn shell
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the naming conventions are funny idc

vital schooner
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i could not follow it, even with lore videos i mixed up everyone with everyone

solemn shell
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thats kinda on you

vital schooner
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that everyone has pretty much the same name but the "I" is placed in a different spot?

solemn shell
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well its on you for mixing them up

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its not like a skill issue or something, its not necessarily fixable, but its just not really fromsoft's fault

vital schooner
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while you arent wrong i dont think you are correct. i would argue having easy to understand names would be on the writers end

solemn shell
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but they are easy to understand

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the only ones that arent are because they're the same person

pure valley
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Hes a bright man i say I say

solemn shell
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what characters have almost the same names

vital schooner
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godrick, godwyn, godefroy, godfrey, maliketh, marika, melina, malenia, miquella, millicent, to name a few

solemn shell
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those arent really that similar

pure valley
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Rellana renalla

solemn shell
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same first letter doesnt mean similar name

solemn shell
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they have a reason to be really similar

pure valley
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No?

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Not to mention

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A lot of the names are 1-2 letters swapped

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They're extremely similar

solemn shell
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godefroy is like the only one and hes not even important, just a repeat boss for a gaol

vital schooner
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toliken got away with messed up names being extremely difficult to follow in the silmarillion, it shouldnt really be repeated in modern times lol

pure valley
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Mfw rellana and rennala, melina and malenia and aren't 1-2 letters off

solemn shell
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well they arent

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rellana and rennala are fair because they're siblings, though they are really close

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and melina and malenia just arent that close in letters

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close in sound, kinda, but not letters

pure valley
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They are 3 letters different between their names

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Nnl vs lln*

solemn shell
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yeah i said that one is really close but its fair cause they're sisters

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its supposed to be really close

pure valley
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Radan

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Radagon

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2 letters

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Melina

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Malenia

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2 letters

solemn shell
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i dont think you know how letters work

vital schooner
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bro these names are like nearly identical to the point that if i was reading a book with these names i would stop because they are so close i would have to read in a way where i hyper focus on the names taking me out of the immersion. most people when reading actually only read the first and last part of words and not the entire thing all the time. these names are fucked. and if you would take a pool of all elden ring players im sure the vast majority would say it would be much much much easier to follow if the names were different

pure valley
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Godefroy
Godfrey

vital schooner
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poll not pool

pure valley
solemn shell
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you also spelled radahn wrong

pure valley
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So should I change my statement to they are 3 letters off?

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What is this? They sound similar thats been a well established meme since the game came out

solemn shell
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but radahn and radagon dont sound similar

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im just done i cant argue with you guys

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you both just do it for the fun of the game

vital schooner
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i was thinking the same thing tbh

pure valley
solemn shell
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did you not read my last messages

pure valley
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No i have you blocked, i have to manually read each one

solemn shell
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whats the point of blocking me if you talk to me anyways

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start ignoring me

rancid siren
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it's only ranni's quest that's easier because all the steps are repeatedly told to you by every character

pure valley
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I missed out on the ring my friend told me where to get it

solemn shell
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i had to look up most of them actually

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i didnt know a lot of quests existed until like, way after i had finished the game 6 times

rancid siren
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exactly

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the story isnt meant to be super accessible for wider audiences, it's something you have to actively look into and search for

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same as the rest of the souls series

solemn shell
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yeah and its peak

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it encourages community interaction even just through how its story is presented

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thats something i love about fromsoft games

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they're very community oriented

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jolly cooperation

vital schooner
# rancid siren elden ring had way harder to follow sidequests than most souls games lol

it could be a numbers game cuz elden ring had just way more quests than previous fromsoft games and i can only speak for my experience. but pound for pound the quests i did was much easier to follow and understand where to go. most of the npcs just flatout tell you which direction to go to. compared to like bloodborne with the eye thing or the drip drip thing, demons souls where you have to find that knight perfectly, dark souls 1 getting to the painted world, or even getting to the DLC, iirc there was some weird specific stuff you needed to do with the onion knight in ds3. dont get me wrong elden ring has obscure specific stuff for quests too. but the point i was making was the elden ring quests did a lot more for story telling, world building, and character devlopment than any previous fromsoft game

languid axle
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@last wing

rancid siren
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In elden ring there's so much bloat to the open world that searching for NPCs or entire areas can be tedious at times but in dark souls for example it's all relatively so much more linear

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solaire is the easiest example by far

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But seigmeyer more fits in line with how most quests go and his quest isn't that hard

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He tells you where he's going too, just like ER quests

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I think the only major difference is the older games would have quests that have you following the steps perfectly, then you pick up the wrong item or go too far one way and the NPC dies off-screen and locks you out of it

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ER isn't as bad with that

vital schooner
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you also have stuff like the egg head in ds1, crawling into the nest and emoting for 15 seconds or w/e it is, getting to manus, getting to that big lake thats hidden behind like 4 secret walls. ds2 was also messed up iirc getting into each dlc was a journey and a half. maybe there was a quest with the shinies in the nest. everyones journey is going to be different and different play styles but the quests i followed i think i completed them without guides. did i miss some and didnt even start, sure. but you arent going to convince me that fromsoft older games were easier when greirat and anri storylines are in the game when most of elden rings quests the npcs were just in obvious spots and or the quest giver says "my castle is over run by monsters. its over to the west" and sure as shit you go west and find the castle and another npc on the path for another quest

languid axle
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This will be me if I ever get around to playing birdman

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I will be the asshole with the sword in my back pocket

willow valley
solemn shell
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you can check the inventories of other people

languid axle
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Ah fuck

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Guess I can't just cheese myself some funny beeg swords lmao

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How does the proficiency thing even work tho

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Like do they get damage buffs for using the right weapon class?

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Or is it just a thing that affects their drops?

solemn shell
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just affects drops im pretty sure

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and its just boss drops

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not chest drops or other stuff like that

languid axle
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Excellent I will be hoarding any and all beeg swords I find for myself k thx

rancid siren
languid axle
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Whazzat

rancid siren
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the best katana for executor... deals very high bleed, does fire damage (we were doing caligo too...)

languid axle
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Honestly might ball with guardian tbh because having more defense sounds goated

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(I'm ass at landing raiders retaliate)

solemn shell
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sometimes you just dont have anything good at all

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and you need to take something one of your teammates might have wanted

rancid siren
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this guy had like 4 katanas on him

solemn shell
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okay he's a jerk

languid axle
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He picked the wrong class on the start screen SOLKEKW

rancid siren
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genuinely think he was petty because he was gonna play executor but switched to wylder when i was on him too

solemn shell
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i think thats true yeah

rancid siren
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like we both coulda played executor lol it's not a big deal

solemn shell
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its not like recluse or smth where you guys actually trip eachother up

languid axle
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Why wouldnt he just double executored tho lol

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Does she?

solemn shell
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yeah theres some characters you dont want to double up as much

languid axle
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For Context I've literally only played raider and a smidge of Wylder lmao

solemn shell
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either cause its better to have more variety in the team or because of a unique mechanic that is difficult to manage two of

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its the unique mechanic in recluse's case

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its also annoying sharing staffs when it feels like theres so few of them

rancid siren
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yeah

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same thing can sorta happen with revenant when looking for seals

solemn shell
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yeah

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but what self respecting revenant is gonna use seals

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the guts greatsword is right there

languid axle
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I NEVER GETTIT FUCK

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Although

rancid siren
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it's funny they gave the item discovery buff to ironeye and not recluse

languid axle
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Recently I got a relic with HP restoration on colossal swords attacks and I feel like that genuinely affects the drop rates

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Cause I actually gettem now

solemn shell
rancid siren
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it's his passive but it mostly affects drops from enemies

solemn shell
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item discovery just affects chest and enemy drops yeah

rancid siren
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i dunno if it changes boss drops or it's uselessly for random enemies

solemn shell
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but it is good if you can get a lot of it

solemn shell
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but any loot spot becomes actually useful

languid axle
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The iron eye pulling the dark moon greatsword out of the ground like fucking Excalibur

rancid siren
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yeah recluse could definitely use that more

solemn shell
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if i was a recluse i'd hate getting that

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magic is everywhere in her item pool, lightning is the element i want

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a bolt of gransax would be ideal

rancid siren
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even if it's not staffs or seals, getting pots with elemental damage types would make making the cocktails alot easier

willow valley
last wing
languid axle
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Man Wylder is so fucken cool actually

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I got a relic that gives you fire on your weapon post claw dash if you do the attack followup

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It's simply peak I'm afraid

last wing
viscid cedar
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does anyone else feel like a Souls boomer at times

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like you rarely think about anything past DS3

last wing
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I was gonna say yes but in a different way

viscid cedar
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in what way exactly

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for myself I sometimes think how old Souls games had better level design

last wing
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There's that yeah

viscid cedar
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I'm talking specifically about DeS and DS1

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where the whole experience was more tight and felt more complete for the most part

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you can sort of include BB and DS3 as well but they are still a bit different imo

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in ER most of your playtime feels like fluff

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better fluff than 80% of the industry but still fluff by from standards

last wing
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Yeah I felt like the open world stuff was neat for a first playthrough but on subsequent ones most of the traveling just felt like a slog. Actual legacy dungeons like Shadow Keep are great tho

viscid cedar
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also the odd thing about Souls games is that how a lot of people bring up its interconnectivity except only one game in the whole series is like that

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you never have firelink shrine elevator moments in other games

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you just teleport to your hub

solemn shell
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except the fluff was boring bosses

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and repetitive enemy encounters

viscid cedar
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cap of all time

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what game did you start with

solemn shell
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ds3

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not saying that game has no fluff but the bosses are actually good so the boring parts are punctuated with peak

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and its more linear so you dont get lost

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the world design in ds1 is cool, but i personally do not like going through it

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i much rather teleporting everywhere

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thats why i liked the second half of ds1 more than the first

viscid cedar
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I can understand bosses but I never thought that bosses were strong point of old Souls games

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like it was never meant to be that way

solemn shell
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the bosses got a slight bit more interesting, i could teleport, i had more fun of weapons

viscid cedar
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talking exclusively about bosses to gauge a games quality is a thing with modern souls game I feel like

solemn shell
viscid cedar
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also teleporting made the game so much worse

solemn shell
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bosses are like 90% of the reason i like fromsoft games

viscid cedar
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even the DS1 haters and the defenders agree on it

solemn shell
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except for me cause i had teleporting and smough's hammer

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and that made it more fun than the other half

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i think the latter half is the best part in all fromsoft games ngl

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well

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minus the last small part of elden ring

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mountaintops isnt very fun or interesting imo

viscid cedar
solemn shell
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well i basically started playing cause i thought the bosses looked cool

viscid cedar
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I would say Bloodborne was the game where people started to hype up bosses above level design

solemn shell
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thats kinda strange

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bloodborne only had a few really good bosses

viscid cedar
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its a shame we never had a game like first half DS1

solemn shell
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it was kinda miserable for me so im glad we didnt

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i didnt have fun in the first half but it was a good experience for me to have i think

viscid cedar
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because there are very little high budget games where you have to actually need to have good sense of direction in a video game instead of the game just telling you

viscid cedar
solemn shell
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i am fine with that

viscid cedar
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and they're making way for games where navigation is not a required skill

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well I don'tstupidfuckingdemondogIstole

solemn shell
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botw and totk have the map and everything, but like more classic zelda games

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i should do a playthrough without using the map in botw or totk

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that would be fun

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but anyways i guess the level design was not the part i didnt like about ds1

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the encounter design is a better word for it

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i just didnt like pretty much any enemy encounters

viscid cedar
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I'm mostly bitter because games like Morrowind actually immerses you to its world by forcing you to pay attention its world

solemn shell
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the only enemies i liked fighting were silver and black knights

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and those are kinda few and far between before and after anor londo

viscid cedar
solemn shell
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i didnt say that

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i think they're bad cause i didnt have fun with them

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they werent very interesting, they used the same "enemy behind wall" trick a lot

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or behind corner i mean

viscid cedar
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the point I'm getting that is that starting with DS3 had you set up some expectations for Souls games

solemn shell
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i dont think ds3 has better enemy encounters though really

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some of them are fun but its mostly kinda the same

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i just like it more cause more weapons and better bosses, and more linearity

viscid cedar
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okay I'm just bewildered by your opinions dog

solemn shell
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i will say i think i would like ds1 more if it was my first

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i wish i hadnt spoiled myself on the games and instead played them all in order

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all blind too

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but yeah my order went ds3 > elden ring > ds3 (didnt do the dlc before elden ring) > ds1 > bloodborne i think?

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i also started ds2 but i didnt get super far

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i did enjoy it ngl

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i just never got back into it for whatever reason

viscid cedar
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I was entertaining you for the DS1 bit because its old and some people don't like it but "DS3 is all the same" got me in

solemn shell
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its not that ds3 is all the same with itself, its just similar to ds1 enemy encounters

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i think its a pretty common opinion that its ds1 2

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its just sometimes the souls formula gets a bit old

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and i want something a bit different

viscid cedar
solemn shell
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thats like a pretty common reason for people to not like it

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i still like it better but its just idk

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i need to finish a lot of fromsoft challenge runs i was doing

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i have a no-hit run of ds3, and a few different runs in elden ring

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ive called ds3 my favorite for a long time but honestly i think it really is elden ring

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after sote came out i switched it to specifically sote, not vanilla elden ring

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but i think its been the full game all along, even before that

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ive played the game too much and enjoyed it all the while for it to not be my favorite

last wing
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And then its DLC

zealous widget
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Bro is built different

solemn shell
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i havent gotten very far into it

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so far ive only no-hit gundyr and vordt iirc

languid axle
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Alright chat

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I got back into ER proper

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I can either go fight mogh or radaan, who's ass do I beat first, I'm about lvl 40

willow valley
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If this is your first playthrough I'd recommend Radahn

languid axle
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Bet I wanted his gear anyways

willow valley
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Mohg is meant to be fought with proper late game characters, though he's perfectly beatable in the early game with the right setup

languid axle
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I got both those masoleum thingies

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I just got a go find radaan

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Also farm smithing stone 3s ideally

last wing
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Speaking of regular ER, I am in a run where I made a Penitent One from Blasphemous build

solemn shell
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heck yeah

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are you using leda's sword once you get it

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that one looks a lot like the mea culpa

last wing
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Probably, but right now I'm using the Marais sword

solemn shell
#

blasphemous blade works too but it doesnt direclt look like the mea culpa

#

theres a surprising amount of good blasphemous-esque weapons

last wing
solemn shell
#

have you gotten the briar armor yet

last wing
#

I've opted for the fingerprint armor piece

#

But his gloves I got

solemn shell
#

the helmet from briar set looks a lot like the penitent ones helmet though does it not

hexed delta
#

he's a nice guy

#

won't hurt you

solemn shell
#

mohg is one of my favorite bosses in the game personally

#

very fun guy

last wing
#

I'm also wearing Alberich's boots to boost my thorn sorceries

#

To mimic the Blasphemous 2 weapons I decided to use the cranial vessel candlestick, the rivers of blood, and the ornamental straight swords.

solemn shell
#

thats fair

#

i honestly dont know about the weapons in either game besides the mea culpa

last wing
#

Rivers of blood is as close to the b2 sword as it's gonna get

last wing
#

Marais is the only sword in er that has the thorns around the hilt

#

But I'll probably get Leda's sword later as you said

#

I'm also building this for being summoned as well so I'm capping at level 120

last wing
#

I'll share the build when I get almost all this shit

#

Almost there just a handful of things missing

#

Two incantations I'm missing, gonna grab the serpent's heads flail from the dlc, and then Leda's sword

#

I'm tryna think of some other things

#

Oh, shit, I should get the lightning spear incantation too

last wing
#

Unless...

solemn shell
#

oh thats unfortunate

last wing
#

Hold on, I do
If I relocate some points from arcane later on

#

Won't be able to wield marais anymore but that's fine

solemn shell
#

btw

#

leda's sword is just really cool

#

i love that weapon

last wing
#

Oh I know, I love light greatswords

solemn shell
#

they really are the peakest

#

great katanas are really cool too

#

i think new weapon types was the thing the dlc was best at

languid axle
#

Is there just a bell bearing hunter near every NPC near a site of grace?

solemn shell
#

near a lot of them yeah

#

warmaster's shack, abandoned merchant's shack, that one temple in liurnia i forgot the name of

languid axle
#

I'm at da lieurnian turtle one

solemn shell
#

thats the temple

languid axle
#

Also

Randomly found the fucken grafted greatsword SOLKEKW

solemn shell
#

is it called the temple of absolution?

#

church

languid axle
#

Vows

solemn shell
#

church of absolution

#

church of vows right

#

i forgot

#

because you can absolve there

languid axle
#

From what

last wing
languid axle
#

Fucken love how this game will have high/dark fantasy vibes

#

Then suddenly

#

Turtle with bishop hat

last wing
#

Fromsoft games tend to do that

#

It's smth a lot of soulslikes will forget in their effort to chase the dark fantasy feel
They forget that there's still some whimsy in these fucked up worlds

languid axle
#

Which bell bearers balls I gotta break to get his awesome ass sword

last wing
last wing
languid axle
#

Where dat

last wing
#

Heading up past Liurnia

languid axle
#

Oh is that thru the lift?

last wing
#

Yep

solemn shell
languid axle
#

Bruh

#

Now I got a find the lift token thingy ma bob SOLKEKW

last wing
#

You don't have to

solemn shell
#

you can also go through the ruin-strewn precipice to the left of the lift

#

you have to fight a boss and go through one of my least favorite areas but at least you dont have to find the dectus medallions

languid axle
#

Also I got this whetstone thingy that apparently changes my weapons affinity, where do I do that?

#

I talked to the Smitty and he had nuthin

solemn shell
#

it just lets you change affinities to certain types of affinities every time you change the ash of war

languid axle
#

Oh

#

Will I see that effect when I change it?

#

And if so is the bell bearer weak to either cold or magic

last wing
#

Not magic but you can frost him

solemn shell
#

cold stuff usually does magic damage

languid axle
#

Excellent

Time to hydrodip my slab of iron

last wing
#

Cold works better if you have more stats in intelligence

solemn shell
#

yeah

last wing
#

Which I know your ass ain't got

solemn shell
#

does arcane buff it too?

#

like other ailments

last wing
last wing
willow valley
solemn shell
#

okay thats what i thought

#

either not at all or not as much

#

i was pretty sure i heard that it was the only ailment that is boosted by a stat other than arcane

last wing
#

It's magic after all

languid axle
solemn shell
#

frost is a pretty banger ailment

last wing
solemn shell
#

did you know fire resets frostbite?

willow valley
languid axle
#

Ah

solemn shell
#

did you guys know fire resets frostbite?

languid axle
#

Dude I'm keeping cold on my sword

solemn shell
#

fire resets frostbite just so you guys know

languid axle
#

This shit bangs

languid axle
solemn shell
#

i dont know tbh

#

ive just heard it a lot

#

that fire resets frostbite

willow valley
solemn shell
#

about what

#

i think i accidentally did an inside joke that im not part of

willow valley
#

They're mandated to mention fire resets frostbite 7 times a video or some shit

solemn shell
#

oh souls youtubers

#

i saw that as some weird word "stubers"

#

soul stubers

languid axle
#

Man I'm in the cave to go to altus the other way and I got so much freaking smitting stones 4 when I get past the last 3 upgrade my damage is gonna SKYROCKET SOLKEKW

willow valley
#

Maybe you should go back to Liurnia and look for 3s

languid axle
#

Man

#

I'm waddling around the altus plateu

#

And I got jumped by a fucken lightsaber wielding dragon!

#

Oop found godfroy again

#

Got his ass

solemn shell
#

well beloathed

#

i hate lanseaxx

woven hearth
#

they have an awful track record for enjoyable dragon fights

#

tthey were so close with fortisax

#

but she has no health and its annoying to fight

willow valley
#

3 out of 21 is pretty bad, yeah

woven hearth
#

you counted? lol

willow valley
#

I googled and guessed

solemn shell
#

and kalameet is cursed by being in ds1

#

i just realized thats one good dragon for each game

#

thats kinda funny

#

if bloodborne had any dragons it would only have 1 good dragon fight too

willow valley
#

Sihn is not good

solemn shell
#

and sekiro has divine dragon

woven hearth
#

placidusax is fun, bayle is the best theyve managed yet, caligo´s fun too.

#

divine dragon is a set piece

#

barely a boss fight

solemn shell
#

its the only dragon fight in the game

languid axle
#

If the game only has one dragon fight then it has to be good SinClueless

solemn shell
#

so its the best one in the game

#

and it is fun

woven hearth
#

its bad

solemn shell
#

nah its really fun

languid axle
#

I need 6 Smitty stone 3s to unchain my slab of iron

solemn shell
#

its very cinematic

woven hearth
#

well, as a set piece is great

solemn shell
#

yeah i wouldnt exactly call it a good boss

#

but its a good dragon

woven hearth
#

Sure, but i mean "fun dragon fight" wich means im talking about it being a good boss

willow valley
#

We got tier lists

vital schooner
#

ok but that tier list flat out lies

#

tf you mean not a dragon

willow valley
#

You telling me Priscilla is a dragon?

vital schooner
#

im tell you Oceiros is

woven hearth
willow valley
#

He's a lanky quadraped

woven hearth
#

he´s not a dragon

#

he´s a weird thing

#

also are the tiers ordered?

willow valley
#

No

woven hearth
#

good

willow valley
#

I made this in 5 seconds

woven hearth
#

was gonna have a seizure at the thought of midir being better than bayle

vital schooner
#

also priscilla is a dragon, not calling her one is like in the hp universe calling someone a mudblood

#

you wouldnt be racist would you

willow valley
willow valley
vital schooner
#

nameless king i guess you can get away with calling not a dragon since the dragon is the first phase

#

the last guy has dragon in its name too

willow valley
#

He is a statue

vital schooner
#

but its a forgettable boss so ill let it pass

willow valley
#

Also

#

I cannot believe I put Seath in B

#

Was I smoking crack?

#

I gotta get it together

#

It might be wraps for me

vital schooner
#

also am i blind or did you not even include gaping dragon

willow valley
#

He's in C

woven hearth
vital schooner
#

didnt even recognize him

#

is this a tier list on the fight

#

or the lore

woven hearth
#

fight

#

who cares about lore

vital schooner
#

thats loser talk

woven hearth
#

wah wah lord erbus the nutcracker fought the ancient dragons with lightning

#

i dont care

vital schooner
#

youd either make a shit lore content creator or one of the best

woven hearth
#

id spread missinformation poisoning the well for the next 20 years

willow valley
#

Unequivocally the best

woven hearth
#

glad to know i have your support

languid axle
#

Is falling star beast easier on foot or on horsie

woven hearth
#

foot

willow valley
#

Foot

languid axle
#

How deal with big tri thunder ground rock thingy?

#

The big third one always hits me

#

Only way I've avoided it was on the horse

#

I beat him

#

On my horse

solemn shell
#

cause horsie doesnt have iframes

#

and even if it is easier on horse, its usually more fun on foot

last wing
#

Alright, mostly done here, peep the Penitent One build

last wing
#

I forgot to screenshot my talismans. Dragoncrest greatshield just for survivability, shard of alexander, magic scorpion charm, lord of blood's exultation

languid axle
#

Just beat dragon tree sentinel and upgraded the shit outta my guts sword/now I can wield the grafted greatsword

#

Unfortunately I cannot have both equipped because if I do then I become over encumbered

#

Which is fine cause I'm abusing the fuck outta quickstep rn lol SOLKEKW

#

Mostly so I can have good armor because quickstep don't care if I'm fat rolling it's independent of fat rolling

#

Ngl might go get Godfrey's armor set cause it looks cool and it a light armor set iirc

#

It appears Godfrey's set is actually ass apparently SOLKEKW

solemn shell
#

armor rarely makes much of a difference tbh

#

the equip load is usually the biggest part

solemn shell
#

yeah im not sure how

#

huh

languid axle
solemn shell
#

but how do you have access to it

languid axle
#

Idk it's prolly better than what I got rn

solemn shell
#

thats the second to last boss in the game

languid axle
last wing
#

You ain't done lmao

solemn shell
#

theres still 3 areas before godfrey

languid axle
#

I just need to bum rush morgyatt and gyattfrey

#

WAT

last wing
#

Godfrey isn't after Morgott

languid axle
#

I thought he was in the capital Soldge

last wing
#

After Morgott you leave and then come back to the capital later

languid axle
#

Guh

last wing
#

You have to trigger certain events before Godfrey shows up

languid axle
#

Like?

last wing
#

You'll see

#

Just go kill Morgott the chad given

languid axle
#

I should kill mogh

#

Mohg

#

Mohgging

solemn shell
#

but its a different instance of the capital

languid axle
#

Man what even is like the intended elden ring progression path SOLKEKW

#

I feel like I'm either horribly under prepped or over prepped lmao

solemn shell
#

its kinda linear ngl

languid axle
#

I mean ig from limgrave/stormveil to nerf academy is pretty straight foward

solemn shell
#

i mean

languid axle
#

And from there they kinda want you going to altus(?)

solemn shell
#

the areas you go to are kinda linear

#

like if you just go directly from dungeon to dungeon

last wing
solemn shell
#

but it feels a lot less linear because each place is an open world

languid axle
#

But like that's completely ignoring like 60% of the map! SOLKEKW

last wing
#

They put regular Caelid mobs as dungeon bosses in altus so clearly you're intended to go to caelid after

solemn shell
#

ive done 8 playthroughs im not going through the boring parts again if i dont have to

languid axle
#

...oh I'm gonna need all the great tunes aren't I

Or at least more then the 2 I've got

solemn shell
#

uhhh

last wing
#

Nah

solemn shell
#

nah

#

you only need the two iirc

last wing
#

They're not necessary

languid axle
#

Wat

solemn shell
#

they're a fun goal to do but you dont need all of them

last wing
#

Killing two shardbearers was enough to unlock the capitol

solemn shell
languid axle
#

But then what's the limiting factor after that

solemn shell
#

there are areas you need to beat bosses to get to

#

without glithces

languid axle
#

To stop me from bashing morgott then killing his dad

solemn shell
#

nothing between now and morgott

#

just a dungeon

languid axle
#

Ah fuck SOLKEKW

last wing
solemn shell
#

but between morgott and his dad theres two entire areas of the game, and 4 bosses iirc?

solemn shell
#

lemme think

languid axle
#

Can I like

#

Do that ahead of time to prep or nah?

last wing
#

No

#

Morgott sealed the way

languid axle
#

Dammit

solemn shell
last wing
#

You have to kill him to progress that direction

solemn shell
#

yeah morgott is the limiting factor

#

pretty much everything after this point is very linear

languid axle
#

Morgott that bum ass

last wing
#

Shut yo trap

solemn shell
#

you beat leyndell and unlock the next area, then you beat that boss and unlock the next area, then you beat that boss and unlock the next area

last wing
#

Put some respect on the omen's name

solemn shell
#

morgott the omen king

#

this man is peak

languid axle
#

He bullied me at the bridge after like 10 minutes of booting up the game I'm still salty SOLKEKW

#

2 HOURS

last wing
#

Man's is just doing his self precribed job

solemn shell
#

yeah i mean

languid axle
#

I just remembered I should go get that talisman that buffs my rune gain

solemn shell
#

he cant let a foul tarnished become elden lord

solemn shell
#

thats a... "fun" cave

languid axle
#

But that's in a tunnel with rot so I should also go get the wondrous physic thing that negates buildup

solemn shell
#

you dont need it

languid axle
#

Also fire pots

#

And grease

solemn shell
#

you shouldnt ever get rotted if you just go fast enough and use quickstep

languid axle
#

Tf even is scarlet rot

#

Like I know what it is lore wise

#

What's the difference between it and say blood loss?

solemn shell
#

its poison

#

but stronger

last wing
#

Rot is more like extra potent poison

solemn shell
#

thats it

solemn shell
#

deadly poison is in between the two

languid axle
#

Ok so like turbo poison got it

solemn shell
#

yeah

#

it does more damage each tick

languid axle
#

Oh that's foul

#

Yeah to hell with that I'm gonna go grab the status resist physic lol

#

Where's a good place to grind pots in ER?

#

I wish to enroll in the firebomb academy

#

Man I made a shitton of progress in ER today lmao

solemn shell
#

a backlogs watcher

languid axle
#

Wat

solemn shell
#

do you not watch the backlogs

languid axle
#

I do

#

I don't see what the issue is SOLKEKW

solemn shell
#

i just dont like lemon at all

languid axle
#

Honestly it's great background noise

solemn shell
#

i was in the discord server for the channel and idk i just had a bad taste in my mouth from him

languid axle
#

Damn

#

Was it just like how he talked or....?

solemn shell
#

i dont even remember anymore honestly

#

its been a while

#

there was just something i didnt like

#

and i havent watched any of his videos since then

languid axle
#

So it wasn't bad enough to stick distinctly in memory, but bad enough to dip got it

solemn shell
#

yeah

#

wasnt anything like

#

egregious

#

just enough to make me falter ig

languid axle
#

Idk Ill throw on his videos sometimes as background noise playing WF or Smth lol

solemn shell
#

its not like "oh he's a horrbile person btw you shouldnt watch him" but just "i personally was a bit put off by him"

languid axle
#

Probably a case of "old guy doesn't get how the younguns' talk on da interwebs" syndrome

languid axle
#

Idk there's something to that that's kinda fun to watch/listen to

It's kinda the reason I like civvie doing boomshoot videos

last wing
languid axle
#

Yeah it's peak cinema

last wing
languid axle
#

Also a big fan of decino

solemn shell
#

or decino

last wing
#

Well you don't watch anything related to boomer shooters do you

languid axle
#

Gotta love me some hyper over analysis of a game and it's code that's about 1.5x older than me SOLKEKW

#

Though in the same breath I'm waiting for his Ultra nightmare enemies tier list for Doom the dark ages

solemn shell
#

sometimes

#

but not most of the time yeah

last wing
#

That'd explain it then

#

Civvie isn't the biggest channel anyway

solemn shell
#

i watched a like 4 hour video on myhouse.wad

last wing
#

Oh shit

solemn shell
#

banger mod

last wing
#

True

languid axle
# solemn shell i watched a like 4 hour video on myhouse.wad

200 IQ demons explained.

BFG Edition vs Classic, Nightmare, Fast Monsters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Klvpd0ReTk

Music:
The Demons from Adrian's Pen by Bobby Prince
Land of Able by Mark Klem
Limb Crusher's Clamp by decino
Fulfilling Headwear from Cykranosh by decino
The Endless Torment by decino
Prowling Through the Fog by decino

Patre...

▶ Play video
solemn shell
#

oh ive seen that in my recommended

#

never watched it tho

willow valley
languid axle
#

Very distinguished doggie(?)

solemn shell
#

i call it beast mode

languid axle
#

Ah it's executor

languid axle
#

Aight so my plan for ER today is prolly:
-boot WF to get free daily stuff lmao
-boot ER
-Get crystal tear that increases status resistance
-get lots of fire pots/grease
-Go to cave with gold scarab
-get scarab
-grind runes in moghs place

#

Prolly gonna dump all my levels into endurance because fat rolling sucks and I wanna use the grafted GS without having to fat roll

languid axle
#

Ok so I think I'm gonna get the bloodhound set so in order to do that I have to go to volcano manner and do things there

#

Wait no it's the raging wolf set I want

#

I will become John elden ring

solemn shell
#

raging wolf set so peak

languid axle
#

Ok so prolly
Get gold scarab and gold scarab adjacent items
Go to manor
Get the set

#

Kill rykard while ime there prolly

#

Ok so it APPEARS

#

That in order to complete the volcano manor quest line (for takers cameo cause HP Regen on kill is yummers) I need access to the north area

#

The mountains

#

The mountains explicitly guarded by morgott

#

That area

zealous widget
languid axle
#

I gots it

#

Imma use it

zealous widget
#

Duel wield greatswords

#

Its peak

languid axle
#

But to use it I gotta lose weight

#

I DEFINITELY got a lose weight if imma try that SOLKEKW

zealous widget
#

Respec and dump all your points into end

#

Its peak

languid axle
#

Nah imma just grind more

zealous widget
#

What level is your character?

languid axle
#

The new plan (I think)
-Get tear to offset statuses (for the scarlet rot)
-Go to cave with gold scarab
-Dew it and get thing
-go do volcano manor to get raging wolf set
-go back
-Kill morgott
-Do final quest line to get takers cameo and get access to rykard
-Kill rykard

Also intermittently grind at moghs palace when I'm close to a level up

languid axle
zealous widget
#

Ahhhhh ok

languid axle
#

Also prolly make more fire pots to cheese clean rot knights

#

Cause I got a fight 2 of them jerks

zealous widget
#

Theyre not that bad tho

languid axle
#

I wanna blow something up with Molotovs, imma blow Smth up with molotovs

#

So from what I can tell the pots are reusable? As in you use them, to make pots, then once you use said elemental pot the pot itself returns to your inventory?

languid axle
#

So in essence all you use is the materials in the pot

zealous widget
#

Yep

languid axle
#

Splendid I will find more pots and more mats for firebombs and go nuts

zealous widget
#

The only hard part abt getting different pots isnt the materials but finding the crafting recipes for making them

languid axle
#

I already got the fire one and that's all imma need

zealous widget
#

Alr

#

What build are you running

languid axle
#

Uh
All the stats that make me bonk things harder

zealous widget
#

So a strength build

languid axle
#

I'm at like 40 STR, 23 vigor and 25 end rn iirc

zealous widget
#

Interesting choice on the vigor there but okay

#

You gonna die in like 2 hits

languid axle
#

Yes

#

But my enemies also die fast

#

Because of my little friend

languid axle
#

I don't like investing in HP because that's points I'm not investing into killing people faster

#

It forces me to get gud SOLKEKW

last wing
#

Unfortunately, ER is "vigor check the game"

languid axle
#

Nah id win

#

Leaving this here for later

last wing
#

(Also to avoid his blood hex you're gonna need another tear in your physik)

languid axle
#

Thats not covered by the status resist one?

last wing
#

Nope

languid axle
#

Nuts

last wing
#

It's a specific one that's only purpose is to counter his spell

languid axle
#

Fuck it if that's the case I might as well go grab his seal thing too from under the big city

#

Maybe get morgotts too

last wing
#

You mean their great runes?

languid axle
#

Nah I mean like the thing that lets you stun em for a sec

last wing
#

Oh the shackles

#

Morgott's you can buy from Patches iirc

languid axle
#

Yeah I got a go find him SOLKEKW

last wing
#

He's back in limgrave SOLKEKW

languid axle
#

Isn't there like a cave o gotta do first?

#

Shouldn't be too bad

last wing
#

It's barely anything, especially at your level

#

It's up above Agheel Lake, so it was intended for you to do it real early

languid axle
#

Yeah before the first morgott SOLKEKW

last wing
#

Yes

languid axle
#

I wish I knew SOLKEKW

#

Before I beat him the old fashioned way

#

I didn't even have my cool big slab of metal sword yet SOLKEKW

last wing
#

Also
There's Mt Gelmir to do to the west of Altus when you want

languid axle
#

Wait

#

Hol up

#

Do I need to kill morgott for that?

last wing
#

No

languid axle
#

Or is that the volcano manor

last wing
#

That's volcano manor yes

languid axle
#

Cause I intended to go there for the raging wolf set

last wing
#

Right

languid axle
#

I was gonna hit it after morgott tho cause apparently the third assassination I have to do is locked to the area post morgott

#

And I'd rather do all 3 back to back it possible

last wing
#

I don't think you need the third invasion done before Bernahl offers his iirc?

languid axle
#

Mostly cause the talisman you get from the third seems nice

last wing
#

I could be wrong

languid axle
#

Nah

#

I just wanna gettem all done

last wing
#

Hmm

languid axle
#

That way I also get a fast pass to rykard

last wing
#

Going through the volcano itself is usually faster

languid axle
#

Prolly

last wing
#

Like you could get right to him right now

#

There's nothing stopping you

languid axle
#

But I want the stuff from the assassination quests

last wing
#

Fair

languid axle
#

Namely the raging wolf set

#

And those go away if I kill rykard(?)

#

Maybe?

last wing
#

Okay but
You could still get to the site of grace right before him

languid axle
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I think

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But like

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I want the stuff

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If I go the long way then I'm just going through more stuff cause I'm inevitably gonna have to do the assassination invasions SOLKEKW

last wing
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Yeah
But there's also stuff to get along the long way

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So there's no reason not to do both

languid axle
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Maybe I'll work from the site of grace backwards thru the manor after I beat all the assassinations

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Get all the shit

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Then kill rykard

languid axle
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Also what's the point of the church of vows even

languid axle
last wing
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The site of grace right before rykard is a sealed off area you can only get to by teleporting

languid axle
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Like there's the lil statue there saying I can get absolved

languid axle
last wing
languid axle
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Nuts

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So I have to do it legit

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After I do a violence

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After after I kill morgott

After after after I get stuff to get me more runes

last wing
last wing
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Libra

languid axle
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Is there more to the weeping peninsula quest?

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I ran through the castle, delivered the letter and got the big fuck off sword and came back to see the original lady dead soooo.....?

last wing
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Yes there's more

languid axle
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Ballin

last wing
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Did you find a woman named Hyetta right past exiting Stormveil castle after beating Godrick?

languid axle
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I think maybe?

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It's been so long

last wing
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There should have been what was called a fingerprint grape to give her immediately before that

languid axle
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I dont think I did that

last wing
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So whenever you want, go back and do that

languid axle
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Man this game has a lotta stuff in it to do SOLKEKW

last wing
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You don't have to but if you want to be clued into how to access an ending, then you gotta advance this quest

languid axle
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Oh right multiple endings

last wing
languid axle
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I know sure for shit I ain't doing rannis cause she a jerk who killed probably the one lawful good character in the setting SOLKEKW

last wing
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You should still advance that quest

languid axle
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It wasn't even like just killing him nah nah nah, he's a giant freakish zombie thing now

languid axle
last wing
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Yeah

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There's good loot and several areas to access along the way since it's a long quest

languid axle
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Id prolly do it fully ngl if the moonlight GS wasn't a nerd weapon for nerds (34 int req)

last wing
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Me when I fuckin get you

languid axle
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Why the cool sword that shoots freaking Lazer beams got a scale off intellect?!

last wing
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That sword's fun as fuck and it's a fromsoft mainstay you put some respect on its name

languid axle
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It is cool!
And that's the problem!

I'm mad I can't use it SOLKEKW

last wing
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... If you have the dlc

languid axle
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I'm considering buying it

last wing
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You should, it's better designed than base game imo

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Map wise anyway

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Also it has Messmer

languid axle
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If I beat the game can I go back into the world like other games (where it puts you right before the final boss encounter, with maybe stuff you get from said encounter) or am I locked into NG+ after that?

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Hell maybe I'll do everything I want up until the final boss, then go do dlc

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Then final boss

last wing
languid axle
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Baller

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Might do that then

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Then dlc

last wing
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My first playthrough I did not do that SOLKEKW

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I went into the dlc soon as I could and then juggled going back and forth making more progress in each

languid axle
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Man the fucken hodslayer GS is also cool but you need faith for it

The moonlight GS needs int

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And the bell bearer needs arcane

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WHY ARE THERE THREE NERD STATS ??! SOLKEKW

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Like what's the difference?

last wing
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Int influences magic damage and negation
Arcane influences most status buildups and item discovery
And faith influences holy and lightning damage and negation

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Honestly though? I'd say you should invest in faith. Strength/Faith is my favorite build in the game.

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Really cool shit to use and swap between

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You'll have the power of God and Miyazaki on your side

languid axle
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Do radaans swords scale off int?

last wing
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Yes, he's a magic nerd

languid axle
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Or faith?

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Dammit

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Not my goat

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I do got the ash of war that infuses your weapon with holy damage

last wing
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His second pair of swords add faith scaling tho

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Imma be real tho
Holy damage is kinda bad in late stage base game

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Most enemies are strong against it

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Like, back to back to back after Leyndell almost each boss is pretty much just a holy damage blocker

languid axle
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Dammit

last wing
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Lightning damage is still on the table

languid axle
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Id need a lighting infuse ashofwar

last wing
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And besides if you get the dlc it fixes the problem of investing in holy later, since there's way more that are weaker to it in there

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Im hoping for a strength faith nightfarer in nightreign eventually, that'd be sick

languid axle
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Wait

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So is fire int or faith?

last wing
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Yes, fire scales with your strength stat

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And in the dlc you can get Flame Art stuff that scales with faith

languid axle
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Pog

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Fire scales with faith but I can't put it on mah beeg slab sword Soldge

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So

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It appears

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I CAN get fire on my slab

languid axle
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But in order to do that I need to get a lil thingy from calid in the castle where you start the radahn fight

last wing
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Added affinities scale according to the weapon

languid axle
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I have to explicitly not start the radahn fight, cause once I do I can't access it till I beat radahn

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How do I even get to that castle SOLKEKW

last wing
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Redmane castle?

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... You've already triggered the Radahn Festival to start

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So you have to fight Radahn now lol

languid axle
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HOW

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I haven't even been to the castle yet!

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I was gonna go get the flame weapon infuse thing, use that to help with the worm face to get the crystal tear to offset rot to get the gold scarab (cause they're weak to fire)
Then go about the plan as per usual