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rancid siren
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|| love how he becomes blue smeltor at the end of the fight btw ||

solemn shell
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||he switches colors a lot||

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||when you stagger him during blue phase, he turns red again||

rancid siren
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that's kinda what i meant earlier

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i wish the game just had more cool shit like that

solemn shell
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i really like all the returning bosses tbh

rancid siren
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same and i like the updated movesets

solemn shell
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ive had fun with all of them so far

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and every time one of them shows up i audibly said "what are THEY doing here???"

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it does get annoying when you get the same one over and over again though

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especially when that one is uh

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||gaping dragon||

rancid siren
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semi relevant

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the gaping dragon 2.0 nightlord is my fave so far

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even with the game freezing move

solemn shell
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he is pretty cool but not my favorite

rancid siren
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i only have fought 3 tho so far

solemn shell
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my favorite is ||gnostos the sentient pest||

solemn shell
rancid siren
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first three

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so the || pest like u said ||

solemn shell
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so ||gladius, adel, gnostos||

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wait

rancid siren
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yuh

solemn shell
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||gnoster||

rancid siren
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i almost got the pest on my first run but literally playing duchess i could not hit that || lobster || like at all with my daggers i felt useless lol

solemn shell
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yeah

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i was playing ironeye the first time

rancid siren
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forced to use my underleveled estoc

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i love ironeye

solemn shell
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so i was ||murdering the moth while other people dealt with the lober scorpion guy||

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||i think its a really well done duo fight with how they go after different people||

rancid siren
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the music was making me crack up tho cuz it made me feel like i was playing a final fantasy or smth

solemn shell
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ive loved the music in all of the fights so far

rancid siren
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same

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this was my fave experience with the second nightlord tho

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just felt great to work together like that

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basically peak nightreign

solemn shell
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yeah its so fun to work together

rancid siren
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yeah

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that's part of why i enjoyed the second one too much

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|| the poison making him vomit promotes so much teamplay and coordination. as soon as he gets poisoned you can call out the whole team to do their biggest attacks ||

solemn shell
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did you see the special thing for the third fight tho?

rancid siren
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not really

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we couldnt find any fire stuff at all

solemn shell
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would you mind if i told you

rancid siren
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im good

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i dont mind spoilers if i almost beat the boss

solemn shell
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oh but actually one thing

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||did you ever get hit by the grab attack, or see someone else get hit by it||

rancid siren
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i cant exactly remember...

quick cosmos
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Alright chat, what do we think of nightreign so far?

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I've heard good things overall

solemn shell
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i think its absolutely peak

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but theres differing opinions about it

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its definitely more of a niche than fromsoft's regular games

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i mean

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more of a different niche

rancid siren
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it's peak but it needs duos and crossplay. Possibly needs a bit moroe variety in randomisations

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but i havent got too far yet so idk

solemn shell
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also i think the variety kinda depends on the boss?

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i think different bosses are more likely depending on the nightlord you chose

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||like we were doing gaping jaw and we got two different dragon bosses||

rancid siren
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I haven't seen that so far

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I did see an ancient dragon once on the second nightlord

solemn shell
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i think you can still get any boss, its just more likely to be certain bosses

rancid siren
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So mayyyybe but I've seen like so many bellbearing hunters and tree sentinels

solemn shell
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game just goes "haha nope"

rancid siren
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Ancient dragon is basically free to me so it's a good warmup for the nightlord

solemn shell
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how is it free for you

rancid siren
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I erm

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Dodge? Idk lol

solemn shell
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unless you play ironeye i guess

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i dont think it would be hard as ironeye

rancid siren
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I just stick to the legs in base ER and I've never had a tough time

solemn shell
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especially if you have rain of arrows

rancid siren
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True

solemn shell
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and he takes barely any damage

rancid siren
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But I'm surprised cuz I headshot him the whole fight and he didn't stagger once

solemn shell
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they have like infinite poise its stupid

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some of the most poise in the game

rancid siren
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I think the hardest night boss I've had was wormface

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Not even the deathblight

solemn shell
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ive never encountered wormface

rancid siren
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For some reason they made him spawn like 2 million enemies including crabs

solemn shell
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hardest ive fought is.........

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uh

rancid siren
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I barely clutched it out for my team cuz we hit up a sleep ruin just before and I had so many sleep pots

solemn shell
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||nameless king||

rancid siren
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Don't even get to be atleast equipped for it

solemn shell
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thats crazy

rancid siren
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Oh yeah he spawns like 5 giant rats too

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So like

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Crabs rats and wormface spewing deathblight...

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Again I only managed cuz I had tons of sleep pots so I could control the crowd a bit

rancid siren
solemn shell
rancid siren
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Jeez

rancid siren
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Is the tibia mariner similar

solemn shell
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yeah

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he spawns with a bunch of skeletons

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like A BUNCH

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||and summons a death rite bird in the middle that stays in the fight afterwards (but doesnt have a health bar and isnt required to beat the boss)||

rancid siren
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||I remember I had commander Neill (the rot swamp one) and I just did ironeyes ult and blow all his summons away the moment they spawned ||

solemn shell
rancid siren
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Yeah

solemn shell
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||i got commander o'neil once (the castle sol one) and it was def harder than the commander niall||

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actually ive had both

rancid siren
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Those guys are pretty free tbh (my rl1 trauma made me learn that guy's moveset like the back of my hand)

solemn shell
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yeah in basegame i would not call the second one free, (had to completely skip him in my no-hit playthrough) but in this game its a lot easier

rancid siren
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Speaking of free...

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|| magma wyrm has to be the easiest purple/orange item in the game ||

solemn shell
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if you're playing a ranged character maybe

rancid siren
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I did a solo run with star first

solemn shell
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that one stupid attack makes melee character a lot more annoying

rancid siren
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You can bully tf out of him

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The stampede?

solemn shell
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yes

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its so annoying

rancid siren
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Fair

solemn shell
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its still not a hard fight but like

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let me hit you

rancid siren
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The magma is irritating in the limited spaces be can be in too

solemn shell
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that too

rancid siren
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Yeah

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If it was the versions that stand up they'd be way harder tho

solemn shell
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and its really annoying sometimes

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his hitbox can push you into the lava even though he's not even doing an attack

solemn shell
rancid siren
solemn shell
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i think

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any annoying boss you can think of

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they're a night boss

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im just surprised i havent run into a bed of chaos or something

rancid siren
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Godskin trio ..

solemn shell
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its called godskin duo

rancid siren
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Trio because three players

solemn shell
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||and yes its a night boss but they took away the noble's roll and the apostle doesnt come until noble is half health||

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something i love about the game is how every night boss has new super cool moves

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like its a pre-existing boss but its got this cool new move now

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sometimes they're like really flashy moves too

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like tree sentinel

rancid siren
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Yeah tree sentinel has the heal move

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Or atleast draconic does

solemn shell
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did you know thats actually in elden ring too

rancid siren
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Oh

solemn shell
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i think its unused content

rancid siren
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Weird

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That makes sense

solemn shell
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cause i see it in every mod i play, but not basegame

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and ive never seen a mod actually make a new move for a boss, its always just unused content

rancid siren
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Cuz boss designers at fromsoft have specific rules and experience making bosses while modders... Don't

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Plus animation is hard

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Easier to just trust fromsoft's design than ur own I guess

solemn shell
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but its not the move i was talking about

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||im talking about when he summons the spectral horse knights and then does a huge slam with his shield that has a golden AOE||

rancid siren
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Oh yeah that too

solemn shell
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||or when draconic does the same thing and then does the dragonking cragblade ash of war||

rancid siren
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Yeah

solemn shell
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||godskin duo has similar "super" attacks, one for each of them, and they're cool||

solemn shell
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solo recluse is really tough

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i just died over and over again to minor field bosses and then got oneshot by the boss cause i had barely any levels

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i just need to get a build started and then im fine i think

solemn shell
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i think i need other people to even get something started

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cause i just dont get enough runes to level up enough to beat the first night

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i think with melee characters it wouldnt matter as much cause me being the targeted one is kinda the point

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but as recluse im the only person to target and i kinda need to not be targeted

pure valley
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To do solo i just prioritize churches and the mausoleums day 1.

rigid dune
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Ironeye is a very good beginner character. I appreciate the well thought-out design.

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Invuln super that is also a rez tool without having to commit is kinda nice.

pure valley
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Blue buildings with a hole(usually)

solemn shell
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do you mean rises

pure valley
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No

solemn shell
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or maybe the enemy camps that are inside of churches?

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they usually look like manus celes

pure valley
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Yep

solemn shell
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ah those

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yeah those are good

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usually a really easy boss

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if they have a hole they have incantations too

pure valley
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But with 2 types of churches that gets confusing

solemn shell
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id call them cathedrals

pure valley
solemn shell
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you hate the golem?

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also just beat ||the 7th nightlord|| with some randos, that was some jolly cooperation

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also might be my new favorite boss, that was really fun

vital schooner
solemn shell
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||darkdrift knight and equilibrious beast both just seem wayyy harder than all the other nightlords||

solemn shell
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just beat the 6th boss with an absolutely goated team of randos, love these guys so much

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all i have left to beat is ||libra and heolthor||

solemn shell
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i think the game could benefit from switching up the map a bit after the first night?

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like maybe enemy encounters youve already cleared turn into new encounters

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i think it would be nice if there was more stuff to do after the second night too

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like maybe they could expand the zone so you have a chance to fight a boss or clear an encounter that you missed

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i just think its kinda silly that they have the goo in the middle as like, an option, but theres no other option

rancid siren
hexed delta
solemn shell
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we love cheesing npc bosses

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one of my favorite things to do is put giant hunt on a guts greatsword and just giant hunt them over and over

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also just beat the 5th nightlord with an absolutely goated team, ill never forget you cranel and chinchilla673

rancid siren
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i think there's a cheese for malenia where you just use giant hunt or upward cut ash of wars and she cant do anything

willow valley
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I know there's one with the Bolt of Granssax

solemn shell
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you can do anything with bolt of gransax tbf

solemn shell
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i just finished nightreign

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banger game

solemn shell
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got a cool screenshot

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ill get cooler ones at some point probably

quick cosmos
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how was the experience overall?

solemn shell
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peak peak peak peak

solemn shell
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me and a friend just realized nightreign is quite literally just the majora's mask to elden ring's ocarina of time

vital schooner
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Don't you dare

languid axle
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Three day loop?

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Consistent map?

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Both generally medevial/fantasy?

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Facts!

vital schooner
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I'm going to crash out of you guys compare a multiplayer experiment with no story that everyone's going to forget in a month to a timeless classic that has fan theories talked about to this day

languid axle
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I mean theres DS enemies here I'm sure that's gonna get some theorists going

rancid siren
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there is loosely some lore and story you can read about

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you can read about each character's story in this one area and it updates as you progress the game and gives you special quests for each character

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nothing revolutionary but they did try with that

solemn shell
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also i wasnt even saying they're the same quality (though i do think nightreign is better) its just funny that they actually have lots of parallels

languid axle
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True

solemn shell
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another thing is that they also have different "playable characters" more than the original game (the masks do technically turn you into a different character i think)

languid axle
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Also ngl I feel like saying a game has a lot of theories isn't a good metric to how good a game is

Cause if that's the case shit like fnaf must be martin Scorsese levels of cinema

languid axle
solemn shell
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its close enough yeah

languid axle
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Except the fierce deity mask maybe?

solemn shell
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also its a world thats just like slightly off from the other one, with lots of reused assets

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also, the nightlord is the antagonist, majora lives in the moon, theres a connection to be made there

languid axle
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Cause some people therorize that's not based on a specific person, rather it's the manifestation of terminas hope for the future/rage at majora and skull kid for being pricks

As such it's only obtainable after helping everyone and it's form is adult link cause it's effectively manifesting his theoretically strongest form.

languid axle
solemn shell
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truueee

languid axle
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Initially manifesting as the main antagonist, but who's final form is a beast who's ultimately hellbent on destruction

solemn shell
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||technically not accurate to nightreign but we'll let it slide||

languid axle
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One could argue Majora's mask moreso wears skull kids body rather than the other way around and as I understand it that's fairly similar to radagon I think

solemn shell
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but this is about nightreign

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elden ring is ocarina of time in this scenario

languid axle
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Right, but isn't nightreign what happens hypothetically if the tarnished never showed up in ER ?

solemn shell
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i dont think so

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ive got theories and ive got ideas

languid axle
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Therefore ultimately the games events being set in motion by a similar thing?

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Is the ELDEN ring in the game

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Like at all

solemn shell
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and they're spoilers so i dont want to actually tell anyone who hasnt also beaten the games

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unless they dont care about spoilers

last wing
languid axle
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Ah fuck

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Ok strike that from the records

solemn shell
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yeah its quite different

languid axle
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Still like, 5 main plot point parallels to LoZ:MM and ERNR

solemn shell
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||i have a theory that its a prequel and its just a forgotten time in the past of the lands between||

languid axle
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Ah that'd be fun

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||possibly could explain the DS enemies there, as the name "the lands between" implies some transitory area, possibly between dimensions/time itself||

||With possibly the ELDEN ring itself forming a stable but stagnant state to the land||

solemn shell
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i dont wanna say too much cause i have insight (kos gave me eyes) from the ending of the game

languid axle
rancid siren
languid axle
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And zero nightreign lmao

solemn shell
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||i still think its a prequel though||

languid axle
rancid siren
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i always felt like there had to be an intentional connection between ER and Dark Souls seeing as they have patches, the archtrees/erdtrees and basilisks

solemn shell
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tbf every game has patches

rancid siren
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true, even armored core

solemn shell
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sekiro is the only one that doesnt

languid axle
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Is there a armored core in NR?

solemn shell
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even armored core, even bloodborne has patches

solemn shell
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but probably not unfprtunately

rancid siren
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im pr sure fromsoft is making a new armored core

solemn shell
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actually armored cores are absolutely massive

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i dont think wed be able to fight one

languid axle
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I'm not buying the game then

rancid siren
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i remember people talking about fromsoft hiring specifically for modelling military weaponry and stuff so it's kinda obvious

languid axle
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Itd be hilarious as a secret boss

solemn shell
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its kinda expected from how popular ac6 was as well

rancid siren
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fighting an armoured core would be hell, imagine trying to hit it while it just sprays dual miniguns at you

languid axle
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It'd be hilarious tho

rancid siren
solemn shell
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but they are really big compared to the player right

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im pretty sure there was a zullie video about this

rancid siren
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they're like as tall as a 2-3 storey house

solemn shell
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zullie my goat

rancid siren
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so pretty big

solemn shell
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thats actually shorter than a furnace golem isnt it

rancid siren
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maybe...

solemn shell
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or around the same size

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depends on the 2-3 story house

rancid siren
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they vary in sizes between games im sure

languid axle
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So itd be possible

solemn shell
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i suppose

rancid siren
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i just remember trying to measure back when i played ac6 and the ones in that games were about 3 storeys tall

languid axle
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It'd be hilarious as a Secret encounter

solemn shell
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its the most recent game, its the well known one

rancid siren
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it's cool though cuz the worm and the big rebel mech you get in those couple missions in ac6 span like half the ER map each

languid axle
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Like you go over to a area, see a bunch of dead dragons, just to see a huge fucken mech beating their asses lol

rancid siren
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yeah

solemn shell
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yeah i think thats just so cool

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they finally figured out how to do that type of boss

willow valley
solemn shell
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theyve been trying for so long and giving up

willow valley
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What's really sick is that the models are just that big

solemn shell
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the straw doll in sekiro was supposed to have enemies on him, there was an unused ds2 enemy that you would climb on, they just wanted to do stuff like that

willow valley
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You can port them into other FromSoft games and they're massive

rancid siren
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better than ER even in my experience

willow valley
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Yeah

willow valley
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They were working Voodoo magic with AC6

solemn shell
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i think its definitely advantaged by the fact that its small maps at a time and not an entire world rendered at once

rancid siren
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tbf also basically no grass or anything like that since everything is all snowy and metallic

solemn shell
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yeah that too

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also they dont have to worry about the details of smaller textures as much, cause you cant zoom in to look at them

willow valley
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They should take a page outta the PS2 era's book and just make grass PNGs fr fr ong

rancid siren
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well you can on the ACs since the customisation is really important in AC

solemn shell
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im talking about the maps though

rancid siren
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yeah

willow valley
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There's also a photo mode

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So you can get all up close and personal with the maps if you want

rancid siren
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i really gotta get back to AC at some point cuz i was finally going through them just a month ago but i got caught by expedition 33 and now nightreign

solemn shell
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i think elden ring has the problem in the dlc where they need the furnace golems rendered at all times

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and thats probably a reason why the dlc is more laggy than the basegame

rancid siren
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yeah im at ac2 atm, i'll get back to them once i finish nightreign

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the original trilogy for ac1 is actually surprisingly solid for a ps1 game

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worst thing about them is the camera being so slow...

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|| that platforming section just before you fight the two nineballs at the end of AC1 has to be one of the worst things i've ever played lmao ||

willow valley
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It is DOGSHIT

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Actually sinful they made us do that

rancid siren
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i didnt even fight the second one i was just zooming for the end of the level at that point

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masters of arena was pretty peak tho

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though i ended up making such a good AC by the end i couldnt enjoy that final boss lol

willow valley
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Ah, you used that gun

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A shame, but it's also kinda the only way to beat the game cuz Nineball has 2 iirc

rancid siren
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if it was that one pistol then yeah i suppose...

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i also had one of those rocket launchers

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it was so solid i just beat every ac except for the second to last one who was ironically harder than nineball

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had to switch to his build just to beat him lol

willow valley
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That's probably because he also has the pistol and frame perfect reactions

rancid siren
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naw he had laser cannons iirc and a super tanky build

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so i just did the same thing with a ton of energy resistant parts and i won

willow valley
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Nice

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I know one of the dudes in the arena has it, and needless to say it is a pain

rancid siren
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it's actually really cool how masters of arena has actual personalities to each ac

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like if one of their descriptions says "they'll avoid you until you run out of ammo" they'll try to do it (their AI might not work properly but it's there)

willow valley
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It is, and their writing is really fun, definitely speaks to how they're pretty much always able to create such amazing characters

rancid siren
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yeah i'll always be a fan of giving game enemies their own personality

solemn shell
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speaking of that, i think the nightlords are really well done

pure valley
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NagoNod i think so too except for eq and the dragon

rancid siren
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adel was cool as hell

solemn shell
rancid siren
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slightly gave me bloodborne flashbacks just fighting a monster that's actively raging through the arena with no care for itself

solemn shell
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he does feel very bloodborne

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you know thats something i like about the nightlords

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they all feel kinda outside of the game and inside of it at the same time

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they feel like they could be in any fromsoft game, but also couldnt be in any fromsoft game

rancid siren
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i mean they are kinda alien to both er and ds

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and probably designed by alot of newer fromsoft employees so it's different vibes

solemn shell
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i really like them though

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its a cool vibe

pure valley
solemn shell
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ive never fought him with mountain blessing and i think its one of the easier fights in the game

pure valley
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Same with eq, you need a bow or for someone to drop an ult on his meditation

solemn shell
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honestly not really

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its kinda better if you dont interrupt it imo

pure valley
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?????

languid axle
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What do each class do in NR?

pure valley
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Bonk

solemn shell
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pretty much

pure valley
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Expect for the one

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He shoot

solemn shell
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theres 4 support class and 4 tank class id say

pure valley
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And the two

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They cast

languid axle
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Who bonk the goodest

solemn shell
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raider

pure valley
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Wylder

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He has pile bunker

solemn shell
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nah definitely raider

last wing
languid axle
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I mean with like beeg sword

solemn shell
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he uses greataxes

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his ult summons a giant gravestone that gives everyone an attack buff

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his skill does more damage after taking enough damage too

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he bonks a LOT

pure valley
solemn shell
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just a normal greatsword though

languid axle
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Is he available from the get go?

solemn shell
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he doesnt use the big swords like raider would

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only ones that arent are duchess and revenant

pure valley
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Duchess worst class change my mind

solemn shell
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wylder, raider, guardian, executor, recluse, and ironeye are available from the beginning

solemn shell
languid axle
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Splendid

solemn shell
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its basically an ult tied to a skill cooldown

languid axle
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I can choose clang or BUNK

pure valley
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It requires the her player to not be braindead

solemn shell
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its pretty easy to use

pure valley
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Which as I'm learning is very hard to find

solemn shell
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big damage happens to enemy? use the skill and that damage is doubled

languid axle
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Is there a upgrade carry over system or nah

pure valley
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Sort of

solemn shell
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theres relics that have special effects that you can equip

last wing
solemn shell
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you get them after losing runs

pure valley
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You get little gems that you can equip and they give small to very good passives

pure valley
languid axle
solemn shell
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it gets enough value anyways if you just spam it off cooldown

last wing
pure valley
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But not if you have a better third

solemn shell
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its just much harder to survive as duchess is the problem

languid axle
solemn shell
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her dodge is supposed to be better but its kinda worse

solemn shell
last wing
languid axle
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Oh fuck

pure valley
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Id much rather have recluse, rev or ironeye on the sidelines than duchess

solemn shell
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you can grapple enemies and either pull them to you or pull you to them

languid axle
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Guts with Nero grapple hook?!?

last wing
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He's also got a massive explosive

pure valley
languid axle
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AH FUCK

last wing
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Beeg boom

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It's so satisfying

solemn shell
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his pilebunker is basically insta stancebreak on lots of enemies

last wing
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I audibly go "BOOM" every time I use it

pure valley
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And he gets a free dodge

solemn shell
#

it does feel good

languid axle
#

Can I customize my look or nah

solemn shell
solemn shell
pure valley
#

Yesnt

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There are skins

solemn shell
#

||you unlock other skins for characters after a certain point||

pure valley
#

Thats it

solemn shell
#

oh well i guess i dont need to spoiler tag that

#

you just said it

last wing
#

You don't mix and match armor sets like normal Elden Ring

pure valley
#

Thats not a spoiler

solemn shell
#

yeah armor doesnt exist

pure valley
#

Spoilers would be what the skins are

languid axle
#

But I equip sets to change aesthetic

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Splendid

#

I will consider buying

solemn shell
#

more or less

pure valley
#

But the ability to apply skins is advertised on the deluxe edition

last wing
#

Unga you should join me

solemn shell
#

the skins are very cool for sure

last wing
#

It's hella fuckin fun

languid axle
#

I may

solemn shell
#

we should do a classic trio some time

pure valley
#

Very very fun

languid axle
#

Honestly prolly better than normal ER multiplayer cause you don't have to worry bout losing souls or nothing from the sounds of it lmao

pure valley
#

You do

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Death is worse imo in this game

languid axle
#

How so?

solemn shell
#

you lose a level when you die

#

and time

#

time is a very important resource in this game

pure valley
#

You lose a level and your current souls

#

But yeah thr time loss is the big thing

solemn shell
#

you get your runes back if you go back to the area at least

pure valley
#

Dying 3 times on night one solo is probably gg

last wing
languid axle
#

But like tbf

It's a run by run game

solemn shell
languid axle
#

So like I think I'd feel less bad about losing shit if I lose it at the end of a run anyway

solemn shell
#

it just makes the run itself a lot harder

#

its not an overarching loss

languid axle
#

Unless levels carry over between runs

solemn shell
#

they dont

pure valley
#

The win condition is different than in soulsborne

languid axle
#

Ok cool

pure valley
#

You're aiming to be able to kill the nightboss

solemn shell
#

win condition is basically get lots of levels, get a good weapon

pure valley
#

Where in er you want to kill the last boss

languid axle
#

I will, perchance, purchase the reigning night

solemn shell
#

fair warning

#

this game is STRESSFUL

#

you really gotta make use of your time well if you wanna win

pure valley
#

And also know your own strength

#

Fighting a boss that you can barely beat can kill a run

solemn shell
#

yeah absolutely

#

but killing bosses is also part of the win condition

languid axle
#

Is the greatsword in the game

solemn shell
#

yes

pure valley
#

Yes

solemn shell
#

its not the best but you can upgrade it

languid axle
#

Can I consistently get to it?

solemn shell
#

not consistently

pure valley
#

Its a common iirc so yes

solemn shell
#

it is a common

languid axle
#

Excellent

solemn shell
#

but theres lots of commons

pure valley
#

But like it's not as good unf

solemn shell
#

but you can upgrade it to epic

#

and make it a lot better

#

also i will say

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im pretty sure colossal greatsword is the weapon type with the most legendaries

#

there are a lot

languid axle
#

Ah HEEEEELLLL YEAH

pure valley
#

It is

#

Maybe behind greatsword

solemn shell
#

ruins greatsword, grafted greatsword, starscourge greatsword

#

uhhh

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theres more i think

pure valley
#

Black blade

languid axle
#

Big slab

solemn shell
#

oh yeah maliketh's black blade

solemn shell
languid axle
#

What's the biggest slab

solemn shell
#

its basically just HOS sword

languid axle
#

Or Lazer slab either or really

solemn shell
#

looks like someone just took a rock from some ruins and said "yeah this is a sword now"

languid axle
#

Only thing better than a BFS is a FBFS

Or a LBFS

solemn shell
#

it has awesome gravity shockwaves on heavy attack

languid axle
#

Flaming big fucking sword

solemn shell
#

ahh

languid axle
#

Lazer big fucking sword

solemn shell
#

so maliketh's black blade

#

so ruins greatsword

languid axle
#

Excellent

solemn shell
#

theres lots of really good massive weapons

#

one of my favorite things about elden ring and nightreign

languid axle
#

Excellent I will consider buying

solemn shell
#

also also

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theres no stat requirements for wepaons

languid axle
#

Excellent

solemn shell
#

so you dont need 70 strength to wield colossal greatswords

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oh i just remembered something

#

me and a friend started an elden ring soul link

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like the pokemon challenge but with weapons in elden ring

#

and its randomized but we have different seeds

#

but we're saying a death doesnt count unless we dont get our runes back, because we are not good enough to beat the game otherwise lol

#

i think i should try a solo nuzlocke of the game at some point but it would be so tough

#

i wonder how many levels you can get from just the runes from bosses

rancid siren
#

Finally got to EQ

#

Yeah he's solid af but man is he cool

solemn shell
#

it is really cool it just also kinda sucks

#

i think really honestly the problem is that hes in nightreign

#

if you could rematch him over and over after dying it would be a lot better

#

they should add a boss training mode of some sort imo

rancid siren
#

yeah

solemn shell
#

like i love his difficulty

rancid siren
#

i was running so many dmg negation buffs

solemn shell
#

it just makes it annoying when you have to take 45 minutes for each attempt

rancid siren
#

and i was just trying to keep my teammates alive while they take like every instant kill move imaginable

solemn shell
#

or an hour i guess

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yeah lol

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its really hard ||when they dont know how to dodge the lasers from the ground||

rancid siren
#

|| i know his weakness is ironically madness but i havent seen like any madness weapons or items in-game at all ||

rancid siren
solemn shell
#

||vyke's war spear is the only madness weapon, theres technically fingerprint shield and frenzyflame seal too, but those barely count||

#

the spells are there too ofc but its hard to find those spells ||and they dont buildup much madness tbh||

rancid siren
#

they shouldve made || his weakness sleep ||

solemn shell
#

||i think it might be possible to find a weapon with the "add madness to weapon" modifier, but madness camps are like low level and dont have good drops so its rarer?||

solemn shell
#

||i think also if any other boss had that weakness, that would be fine, cause all other bosses are easier||

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also uh

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||i genuinely have no idea what madness does to him because of how its just impossible to find||

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||im guessing maybe it does a burst of damage and makes him do the rampage thing he does when you break his meditation?||

#

really cool boss besides the issues though

#

love the way he moves and the aesthetic of the attacks and stuff like that

#

||i also like how he has madness not because of the flame of frenzy, but because he basically meddles with stuff he shouldnt (turning stuff into gold)||

pure valley
solemn shell
#

so yeah

#

i was right

pure valley
#

But yeah being able to practice bosses would be a great qol

solemn shell
#

i honestly wouldnt care even if you have to like reach them 3 times before unlocking it or something

#

having it at all would be nice

paper otter
#

First impressions of nightreign is that its pretty fun, havent gotten a group together for it yet. And my buddies disconnected on an online run. But solo it was pretty neat. Like a lot of rougelikes early run really really matters. And the difficulty is there. The tone reminds me a lot of Hades 2 which I enjoy, and I just really look forward to playing more.

vital schooner
solemn shell
#

once you get started its a lot easier

solemn shell
paper otter
#

Gotta do a trio with people I know sometime, cuz my guys both ran sekiro dude, couldnt parry, and died in 7 minutes

solemn shell
#

thats funny

solemn shell
woven hearth
#

most normal MH frontier nuke

solemn shell
willow valley
solemn shell
#

i know its absolutely peak

#

||one of the bosses is literally just seltas queen and i saw it and went YOOOO SELTAS QUEEN||

pure valley
#

Rise cheat sheet

solemn shell
#

thats really nice actually

#

so many rises i have been completely unable to finish

solemn shell
#

just noticed ironeye has some weird auto-aim on his heavy attack

#

those targets are not evenly spaced and the arrows just went for them

solemn shell
#

ive been in queue for so long

#

||does nobody want to fight darkdrift knight right now???||

rancid siren
#

I think the queue limits you depending on what content you've seen in comparison to everyone else

#

Especially if it's the shifting earth events

solemn shell
#

well ive beaten all the nightlords

#

and i made sure the shifting earth went away

#

i guess maybe other people arent allowed to join me rather than me not allowed to join others

rancid siren
#

I remember I beat gladius before my friend so I had the volcano and it took a while to get anyone and that was day 2 I think

solemn shell
#

me and my friend beat gladius in like our 2nd run and it took so long to find anyone after that

rancid siren
#

Yeah

#

I assume most people are doing them in order and absolutely struggling

solemn shell
#

a lot of people probably are doing them in order yeah

rancid siren
#

Classic fromsoft '99% of players haven't gotten the you died achievement' thing

#

That said

solemn shell
#

1.2% of players havent beaten the tutorial

rancid siren
#

I've been doing the earlier nightlords in order with my friend and getting near instant matches with randoms

solemn shell
#

the one that you finish if you die 3 times

solemn shell
#

||but this time i have a remembrance quest to kill fulghor||

#

might have to wait for my friend to get online so i have another person

rancid siren
#

Yuh

solemn shell
#

oh 2/3 rn

#

maybe they dont leave this time and we get an actual 3rd

rancid siren
#

I played earlier with mine and we almost did a 3/3 ironeye run for augur

pure valley
rancid siren
#

But the random was petty af and rq lol

solemn shell
pure valley
#

with the solo buffs + the od class you get to play its way easier imo

rancid siren
solemn shell
rancid siren
#

It wasn't even the first night yet

#

He tried to fight like every night 2 level boss instantly after we glided in and raged the second time we couldn't reach him for revives lol

#

Astounded he even made it past gladius

solemn shell
pure valley
#

was he on executor?

rancid siren
#

Ironeye

pure valley
#

lmao

rancid siren
#

We all ran ironeye funnily

solemn shell
#

i feel like its usually executors

solemn shell
pure valley
#

executor can take some day 2 bosses on night 1

solemn shell
#

it was funny

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

He mightve chose ironeye for the bit lol

pure valley
solemn shell
#

i suppose so

#

anyways anybody wanna join me in a 6th nightlord run

pure valley
#

but its like magma worm and AS and thats it

solemn shell
#

ugh i hate magma worm

#

and whats AS

rancid siren
#

You can kill magma wyrm so easy with star fist

#

Charge heavy all the way

pure valley
#

ancestor sprit

solemn shell
#

star fist is busted for everything tbf

solemn shell
pure valley
#

though like

solemn shell
#

i feel like executor would be able to kill tree sentinel too

#

maybe not draconic but normal at least

pure valley
#

oh yeah him too

#

i havent seen normal out in the world

#

is he?

solemn shell
#

he is

pure valley
#

much rather him than dts

solemn shell
#

ive seen him before as a night 2 field boss

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

I've seen tons of tree sentinels

solemn shell
#

i can no-hit tree sentinels pretty consistently

#

DTS a lot less consistently

rancid siren
#

I think they're easy but I always mess up when they use their shield moves

solemn shell
#

the shield moves are a bit harder to dodge tbf

#

usually the only time i ever get hit by a tree sentinel

pure valley
#

jump NagoNod

solemn shell
#

well if he hits you with the shield directly that doesnt work

rancid siren
#

I'll keep jumping in mind for the big slam move I guess

solemn shell
#

yeah

#

personally i just roll in for that

pure valley
#

its way easier to jump for me

solemn shell
#

its weird that i actually really like tree sentinels

#

ive fought so many of them, given how many there are in the game

#

which is like, 5 i think?

#

3 in basegame and 2 in dlc'

rancid siren
#

Yeah there the beginning one and then the duo in altus

solemn shell
#

yeah and then i also played some mods which iirc have an extra tree sentinel

rancid siren
#

And in the dlc it's the duo near || Marika's hometown I forgot the name ||

solemn shell
#

i think it was elden ring reforged that adds one in front of the dectus lift

rancid siren
#

The dlc ones feel so scuffed

solemn shell
solemn shell
rancid siren
#

Cuz they generally don't fight together but are the same boss iirc

solemn shell
#

nah they're seperate

#

they're just really close together for some reason

rancid siren
#

It's something weird it's been ages...

#

But yeah

solemn shell
#

anyways

#

i desperately need people to play with me

#

i am not gonna get a game in matchmaking

#

i think it'd be funny if we had a nightreign matchmaking role

last wing
#

Can't vc but I can play

solemn shell
#

i got a game actually

solemn shell
#

it was funny, i left my pc and then i came back and i was gliding in

#

we won handily

#

these guys were like

#

absolutely goated

last wing
#

Currently having trouble with the whale, myself

#

Idk how to deal with the AOEs

pure valley
#

augur?

last wing
#

Yeah

#

Should also lock in Ironeye when fighting him I think, I cant really get in consistent damage if I'm not

solemn shell
last wing
solemn shell
#

unless you're talking about the thing where he does the spinny and the water shows up around him, in which case idk, ive never dodged it

#

but the water splashes, those are dodgeable

last wing
#

I can dodge the water no problem

#

It's the sleep aoe and shit I'm confused about

solemn shell
#

oh that you need to hit him with lightning to cancel it

#

an offensive ult probably works to obut idk

languid axle
solemn shell
#

not yet

last wing
languid axle
#

can you hit your friends to wake them up?

last wing
#

No, Sleep is a status ailment in this case

languid axle
#

Damn, MH rules don't apply

last wing
#

You hit your friends to revive them from near death

languid axle
#

Lmao

solemn shell
solemn shell
#

i know some people are mad at nightreign for reusing old bosses and stuff

#

but i feel like its kinda a love letter to the series

#

taking all these old bosses and showing them off to a newer generation

solemn shell
#

got an achievement for killing 3 different nightlords in a row

#

and then my next run had an executor who kept dying because he did stupid stuff and then later ragequit

#

like bro there is a reason we arent going into the castle that is currently being overtaken by the night

rancid siren
#

So when fighting it, just save for that one move

paper otter
#

Almost beat nightlord last night with a friend, we got a really good rando. And had guardian, iron eye, and the magic girl im blanking the name of. It was a great run

paper otter
#

Anyone had the cool and hip issue of your game getting stuck loading halfway through when you're trying to get into the game

#

Ive done every possible fix and it still just doesnt work.

paper otter
#

I’ve been struggling with this bug for the past 4 and a half hours

#

I physically cannot play the game. I don’t know what is going on

last wing
last wing
#

Dawg I just pulled a heartpounding clutch on the dragon
His hp was at about a tenth left, I'm out of flasks, and then my teammates both die at the same time and have three bars to revive
When I tell you I've almost never played as perfectly as I did in that moment just to kill him

#

Wish I'd recorded that because goddamn

solemn shell
#

which dragon

last wing
#

Ice

#

The nightlord one

solemn shell
#

gaping jaw is a dragon too thats what i was talking about

#

but still answers my question

#

and yeah thats absolutely sick

#

i feel like

#

having both teammates dead and the boss kinda low is the time that makes people lock in

#

thats when you clutch up

#

too many people decide "noo i gotta revive my teammates" but sometimes you just cant

last wing
solemn shell
#

yeah

#

i think reviving a teammate at 3 bars is just a bad idea in almost any situation

#

if you have a tank and a dps alive you can have the tank take the attention of the boss and the dps revive the player, but any other situation and its a lot more difficult

last wing
#

Imma be real during that fight my Wylder was the tank lol, the executor or duchess would die and they'd be reviving each other while I've got caligo's aggro

solemn shell
#

wylder is a tank yeah

#

melee characters are the tanks (cept for duchess) and ranged characters are the supports (cept for duchess) imo

last wing
#

And I managed to get like, three stacks of the damage negation buff

last wing
solemn shell
#

he can parry like almost anything and he has beast mode

#

i think he's a tank

#

also his damage is like horrbile

solemn shell
#

horrbile?

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

I ran 2 flamberges and every revive I did I was doing a whole bar a swing

#

Which is alot more doable than with duchess on daggers for example

pure valley
solemn shell
#

thats his normal sword, im talking about cursed sword

rancid siren
#

just did gaping maw solo

#

first one i did solo since the patch that buffed solos and wow that is uh

#

very easy

#

i didnt realise i was still 7 estus until the last 3rd of the fight

#

im not even trying to brag im just shocked cuz i just did really good damage

#

doing cerberus and sentient pest solo back then it felt like such an uphill battle

#

does anyone know what they did for the solo buffs?

solemn shell
#

i looked at the patch notes and it just says you can revive once on defeat and you get more runes

rancid siren
#

i somehow doubt that but idk

solemn shell
#

these are the only things that it says

rancid siren
#

sentient pest and cerberus i couldnt really get yellow damage or staggers but adel it was just back to back staggers and damage

#

maybe he's just weaker on solo on i thought he'd be

solemn shell
#

i know i beat augur on solo before the patch

#

i did barely any damage but it didnt really matter cause that guy is so easy as ironeye

rancid siren
#

it was also kinda crazy i had the gargoyle axe with poison and it'd take literally like one aow with poison mist and he'd instantly vomit from the poison

solemn shell
#

well he is weak to poison so he gets poisoned a lot quicker

rancid siren
#

true but idk, just felt like it'd be more...

#

i might try libra solo next

#

im trying to do the remembrances while i wait to schedule with my friend again

solemn shell
#

in base elden ring i had a run with a poison giant crusher that usually poisoned things in 1-2 hits

cinder sinew
solemn shell
rancid siren
#

I didn't do yellow damage on Libra and it felt more or less the same as with the other nightlords pre patch

#

But it still wasn't very hard

solemn shell
#

libra is the hardest one imo

rancid siren
#

made it to the ||final nightlord || with my friend

#

that is very tough looking but so cool

#

fromsoft has really jumped the quality of their bosses since Elden Ring came out

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

tbf...

#

~~i didnt die until like || halfway through second phase but my teammates kept dying over and over || ~~

solemn shell
#

yeah thats kinda weird

rancid siren
#

the reward for the last shifting earth though is so so so worth getting

solemn shell
#

||imagine dying to the first phase where you arent supposed to have trouble||

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

|| noklateo ||

solemn shell
#

oh right

#

i still havent found that

#

ive found all the others

rancid siren
#

i've done all the nightlords and it just came up

#

i assumed it's just for getting so far

solemn shell
#

oh i mean i just havent gotten the secret

rancid siren
#

ohhhh

solemn shell
#

ive gotten the shifting earth a few times

rancid siren
#

it's probably the easiest to get tbh

solemn shell
#

mountains are pretty easy to get

rancid siren
#

||you just run all the way to the corner of the map and navigate though the city||

solemn shell
#

thats what i figured

rancid siren
#

|| you kinda have to zigzag through but there's so little resistance it's not a problem ||

solemn shell
#

yeah

#

||ive been through the city almost every time ive had the shifting earth, just never looked for the secret specifically, just kinda went there to fight the bosses||

rancid siren
#

|| imo it's probably the most worth it one of them all as far as i know ||

solemn shell
#

||i think either the rot forest or crater has the best reward but ig i dont know exactly what it has||

rancid siren
#

yeah i just recommend zooming straight for it next time u get it

solemn shell
#

||i wish there was a shifting earth that made part of the map into farum azula, would be so sick||

rancid siren
#

|| i'd love more than 4 of them but i'd love a second map even with the same shifting earths ||

solemn shell
#

||weve got mountaintops, gelmir, caelid, nokstella, just give us the rest of the areas||

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

|| i think we should get some like, madness areas like the abyss, or maybe one like shadowkeep castle with all the messmer fire ||

solemn shell
#

||i dont think we'll get much from the dlc, given that theres almost nothing from the dlc already||

rancid siren
#

|| a madness shifting earth would be so good for libra ||

solemn shell
#

||i could see a madness shifting earth happen, just not the abyss specifically||

#

||im trying to remember what the one dlc thing ive noticed was||

rancid siren
#

|| there's golden hippo, and the demihuman swordmaster ||

solemn shell
#

oh yeah thats it

rancid siren
#

i think we could get dlc stuff in a future dlc tho

solemn shell
#

yeah i could see a dlc dlc

rancid siren
#

i'd love a dark souls dlc tho

solemn shell
#

shadows of limveld

rancid siren
#

just slap in anor londo as an event

solemn shell
#

shadow of the limbeld

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

it's the same thing basically...

solemn shell
#

so technically yes but i mean irithyll irithyll

#

not the anor londo part of irithyll

rancid siren
#

i'd love some silver knights and gargolyes tho

#

maybe like a capra demon + taurus demon duo

#

as a day 1 boss

solemn shell
#

you could just have capra demon as a day one boss ngl

rancid siren
#

Yeah but that's a bit too easy tbh

solemn shell
#

maybe capra + taurus + asylum as a day 2 boss lol

rancid siren
#

unless they make him wayyyy faster

solemn shell
rancid siren
#

asylum alone would suit a day 1 boss

solemn shell
#

i dont agree

rancid siren
#

especially the underground version with the AOEs

solemn shell
#

asylum is wayyyyyyyyy too easy

#

that man is like a low level camp boss

rancid siren
#

hmmm

#

maybe he can replace the erdtree avatars on the map like a reskin

solemn shell
#

i think we just dont need asylum demon

#

what we need is O&S as a night 2 boss

rancid siren
#

o&s with updated moves would be so peak

solemn shell
#

ooh and i just had an idea, sister friede and father ariandel night 1 boss, with blackflame friede as a night 2 boss?

rancid siren
#

||i mean there's already multi phase night bosses ||

solemn shell
#

there is

rancid siren
#

i once had || commander niall and when i killed that we got dancer ||

solemn shell
#

i just think a night boss having 3 phases would be a bit much

#

maybe we cut out father ariandel and just do friede and she turns into blackflame friede at the end?

rancid siren
#

maybe have an event whereyou can kill ariandel early

solemn shell
#

or maybe we cut out phase 1

#

i think that makes more sense for the coop focused game actually

solemn shell
#

||ive only ever gotten one night boss at a time, just some of them might have two phases||

rancid siren
#

yeah i was shocked when it happened we all looked for the goop lol

solemn shell
#

||like nameless king starting on his chicken and then coming down to murder you||

rancid siren
#

yuh

#

it's peak tho

solemn shell
#

it is peak

rancid siren
#

nightreign is at it's best when it's surprising you like that

#

just... gimme more randomisation plleaaaaseee

#

im surprised || so many rememberance bosses are missing from the boss roster in this game ||

solemn shell
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i think its at its best when your group is totally in sync making a route and going on it, getting all the rewards on the way, sharing items that would be better for other classes, and using all their skills to help everyone else in bosses

rancid siren
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|| mohg, fortisaxx, and malekith would be so good for this game ||

solemn shell
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i disagree with one of those

rancid siren
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but they're just not there

solemn shell
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||id rather fortissax stay dead and never come back||

rancid siren
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|| fair but he's be cool to fight as a trio ||

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|| godrick is in the game and they made him so sick i just wish there were more bosses like that ||

solemn shell
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||but having mohg and maliketh would be cool, i already mentioned a farum azula shifting earth but they could totally do mohgwyn palace shifting earth too, could have them as bosses of the shifting earth before you can get the blessing||

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||and then you could have a revamped version of them as night bosses||

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||like a magma wyrm guards the crater secret, but theres a stronger version of magma wyrm as a night boss, they could just do that||

rancid siren
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|| lucaria as a shifting earth would be cool too ||

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|| they'd need to update rennala as a boss for it tho ||

solemn shell
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||in fact maybe sewer mohg and gurranq are the shifting earth guardians, and palace mohg and maliketh are the night boss (but still with new stuff cause its nightreign)||

solemn shell
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but yeah would be sick

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wait

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||we dont even have radahn in the game||

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||thats THE summon boss||

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||he needs to be a night boss for sure||

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||i want godfrey as a night boss too but im biased cause hes my favorite boss||

rancid siren
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||godfrey would be so funny with his grabs ||

solemn shell
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true

rancid siren
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||ohh they should give the slams on his grabs aoes so he's using you to smack people ||

solemn shell
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||i could see night one godfrey night 2 hoarah loux maybe, similar to tree sentinel and draconic tree sentinel?||

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i mean

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its more similar to ||niall and o'neil i just forgot their names at first||

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i just hope whatever they do for a possible dlc is good lol

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cause i got the deluxe edition

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so i get the dlc with that

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i had a lot of faith in this game and its already paid off imo

rancid siren
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same

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i'd just love to see more out of it

solemn shell
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i beat the game on like sunday iirc?

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and i can still play it a lot

solemn shell
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its peak as it is, i just want more of this peak

cinder sinew
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I know this isn't fromsoft but for anyone who actually cares and isn't a jackass, I'm pasting this here
Alright I've beaten the first boss of the lies of P dlc already
||Kinda ass tbh giant zombie alligator that felt reminiscent of the golden hippo from Shadow of the Erdtree. Other than that tho I've already gotten a couple new weapons and a legion arm and they're sick af. Very good so far||

hexed delta
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golden hippo was a -1/10 boss

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glad to hear it's fun overall though

last wing
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This one wasn't all that bad at least, because Lies' parry exists

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It still had a weird as fuck command grab that felt unintuitive to avoid

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And just strange hitboxes all around cuz of how big and ||alligator shaped|| it was

solemn shell
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if kinda boring design wise

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he played it early at like a gameplay showcase in japan or smth

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so he only had an hour

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didnt beat the first boss in it

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it was funny too, i was watching the stream where he showed off the gameplay footage, and they accidentally sent him a different persons gameplay footage and they absolutely sucked at the game

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never parried once

last wing
vital schooner
rancid siren
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just did an absolutely godly solo run of || darkdrift knight || as raider holllyyy

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rot greataxe with lightning on it + 20% stance breaking from 2 seperate drops + lightning on dodge

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bro could not do fucking anything

solemn shell
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thats funny

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eapecially cause thats the boss ive died to the most, most liekyl

rancid siren
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first time i did it we had a wylder random who clutched tf up when everyone died and won at like 1 health

solemn shell
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that was me

rancid siren
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also i tried playing executor and man i just dont feel this character at all

rancid siren
solemn shell
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yeah it wasnt me lol ive never fought him as wylder

rancid siren
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but yeah executor just feels very meh

solemn shell
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would be nice if his ult was good at all but everything else i love him

rancid siren
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mostly cuz the things you can parry feels very random at times

solemn shell
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i havent found anything i cant parry ngl

rancid siren
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like he can feel very fun and strong when you're parrying but then a boss bonks your head and i just get flattened lol

solemn shell
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you mistimed the parry

rancid siren
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maybe

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i guess i should practice but man

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i kinda wish his deflect was just his passive ability or something

solemn shell
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i just like always having sword out

rancid siren
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even if it cost his dodge

solemn shell
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and playing sekiro

rancid siren
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yeah i was super excited for him before the game came out

solemn shell
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even if its like way worse cause the katanas he can get can be really good

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i just dont really care

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i want to deflect

rancid siren
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he can abuse status effects really well

solemn shell
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i just dont understand saying that

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none of his abilities help with status

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anyone could get the weapons that he gets

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both sword and beastmode cant even buildup status

rancid siren
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naw he has super high arcane stats

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so his weapons get higher scaling on those statuses

solemn shell
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i wish the game told you the stats people had

rancid siren
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you can in the info book thing where the blacksmith used to be in roundtable

solemn shell
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i just assume that people have certain stats based on their vibe

solemn shell