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solemn shell
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its tomorrow night

last wing
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So who wanna be up nighting they reigns with me when it releases

languid axle
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When Helios claims the elden ring and his subjects call him the pickle king:

vital schooner
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just saw gameplay of nightreign and now im even more upset that people refuse to call this a BR. look guys its ok to call it a br it doesnt make it bad. its allowed to steal everything from fortnight and make its own thing. stop copeing and call it for what it is though

pure valley
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I dunno man

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Looks like elden ring to me

languid axle
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Are teams of 3 fighting it out?

willow valley
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No

vital schooner
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it has 9 out of 10 features you see in all BRs and cuz its missing out on pvp, which fornite you can just play against bots, everyone says nah man

languid axle
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Id argue it's closer to a rougelite than a BR then

vital schooner
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people need to use their eye balls

languid axle
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Y'know when you think about it

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BRs are just pvp rougelites

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Think about it

vital schooner
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no extraction shooters ill give you rogue likes

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but not BRs

languid axle
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I mean

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Each run you start with bare essentials

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You find upgrades to survive and try to make it to the end

vital schooner
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ok cool what progress carries over?

languid axle
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Upon either winning or losing you restart the cycle

languid axle
vital schooner
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lol get outta here

languid axle
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I mean I'm not wrong

pure valley
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Compound giving big "guy who has only seen boss baby vibes"

vital schooner
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say what you want im sure its going to be a fine game but its going to spawn a sub genre of pve br

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its just low key annoying that the map is the same, its laid out the same, the gameplay loop is the same, the spawning in is the same, the team size is the same, the abilities are the same as apex legends, the only difference is how you get victory royale and that the players are just bot npcs

pure valley
vital schooner
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i feel im taking crazy pills

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how can you even ask that

pure valley
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Wha

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Because the end goal and gameplay is 100% different

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Battle Royales ask you to eliminate all other players

vital schooner
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by doing what

pure valley
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This only asks that you ||survive until night||

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I believe by shooting them

vital schooner
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see now you are being disingenuous on purpose

pure valley
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Mf

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you don't get to use that word

vital schooner
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you go in on a map, you loot the map, for gear, you get better gear then others to win

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NR you fly in on the map, you loot the map, you fight a pvp boss

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its the same loop

pure valley
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Those are notably different loops

vital schooner
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alright im just going to stop. the hoops people will jump through so they dont have to admit they wanna play and enjoy a pve based BR game is actually insane

pure valley
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Because if it's pve it's not a br

vital schooner
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that is stupid

pure valley
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By your exact logic poe2 endgane is a br

vital schooner
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no it is not. you are not flying in, you are not getting gear for just that run

pure valley
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You're teleporting in sorry

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But you loot the map, and then fight a boss

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That's the exact same loop you outlined

vital schooner
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you know exactly what i mean

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i dont get why you gotta be so annoying about it

solemn shell
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do you call risk of rain battle royale

vital schooner
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just stop

solemn shell
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im curious if you consider it a battle royale

pure valley
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I'm pretty sure it's the circle

vital schooner
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im done with the convo. ill never bring it up again till a few years down the line when this spawns a sub genre of game and people call it fucking BR-lites. its just going to be funny when they release an update that allows 4 teams of 3 on a single map and they can fight each other but the goal is to be the first to kill the map boss and people will still fucking refuse to call it a BR

pure valley
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Compound

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This is a genre already

last wing
pure valley
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Rougelikes exist

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That's all this is

vital schooner
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do not call this a rogue lite

pure valley
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Does it have the fortnight circle

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Yes

vital schooner
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unless im missing something it is not a rogue lite

pure valley
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Then you're missing something

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Because that's literally what it is

last wing
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It's literally Elden Ring Hades

pure valley
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As sloth pointed out

languid axle
pure valley
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Its ror

vital schooner
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what progress carries over? whats the run currency and whats the game currency for future upgrades? what special abilities do you unlock for jsut that run?

languid axle
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I mean

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Technically

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A rougelike doesn't need things to carry over

pure valley
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Runes ig

languid axle
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Rougelites do tho iirc

pure valley
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And you get spells

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Different armors

languid axle
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Yeah so id imagine there's some carry over

pure valley
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Weapons with different WA

languid axle
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People haven't played it yet so it's kind of a wait and see

pure valley
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And iirc, yes there is permanent character progression

last wing
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This is slander

languid axle
pure valley
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All hail the pickle king Solge

languid axle
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All hail da pickle king

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King of the fridge condiments!

last wing
languid axle
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With glorious mustard locks!

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MUSTAAAAAARD!!!

last wing
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This place is full of jackasses StupidFuckingCryingDog

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Shaking and crying rn

languid axle
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I'm all the jackasses in a trenchcoat

vital schooner
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im willing to concede that its a rogue lite but it NEEDS these core features

  1. randomized map. and i dont mean its a random map i mean the entire thing has to be different everytime you jump in. different sites of grace locations and what not
  2. it needs power or builds thats unique to that run and changes how you play from run to run. i would not consider getting different spells as different powers since in elden ring they are used the same way. i would concede weapon arts but only if theres other stuff you can build on top of them
  3. it needs some form of progression that carries over from run to run. permanent upgrades. if items can carry over then its a pve extraction shooter similar hunt showdown
white galleon
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roguelites tend to do that though

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but roguelikes are supposed to be Like Rogue

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which did not have progress that carried over

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to be a roguelite you simply need to have to begin from the beginning upon death, it may have something that carries over inbetween but it doesnt need to

solemn shell
vital schooner
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yes i know i assumed when zyx called it a rogue like he meant rogue lite

languid axle
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I mean considering how brutal souls like are if imagine they'd lean closer to rougelikes

solemn shell
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these arent necessary things for a roguelike

vital schooner
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are you kidding me?

solemn shell
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they're good things for a roguelike to have

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but they arent genre defining

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also it is a randomized map each time anyways

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they said that already

white galleon
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and when it comes to "its a battle royale" i think the "lots of people duke it out pvp style" is like The Defining thing that you cant have a battle royale without

solemn shell
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battle royale is kinda specifically a pvp genre

white galleon
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yeah

solemn shell
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if its not pvp then its not battle royale thats just how it works

solemn shell
vital schooner
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cool story bro

solemn shell
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what is the point of arguing if you will not listen to the other side

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just leave

white galleon
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the circle getting smaller is an aspect commonly seen in BRs but its also just a way of directing/restricting players, doesnt make a game a BR by itself

solemn shell
white galleon
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yah

solemn shell
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they both have the shrinking circle to do the same job

white galleon
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yeah

solemn shell
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not because they're copying eachother

vital schooner
# solemn shell just leave

why dont you just leave, telling me i dont know the difference between a rogue lite and rogue like then saying some other dumb ass shit

white galleon
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plenty of genres share mechanics anyhow

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man i love the block button

solemn shell
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no reason to give this guy's words a second glance

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we can still talk tho

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i think roguelikes are cool but they're so rare

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i cant think of a single true no permanent progress roguelike

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oh well devil daggers actuall

vital schooner
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and this clown says i dont know the difference between the genre and he cant name one where my library has 3 and ive beaten 2

vital schooner
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thought you blocked me, dungeon of dredmor, cogmind, cave of qud

solemn shell
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never talked about blocking you

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interesting never heard of those games

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well caves of qud i have but idk anything about ot

vital schooner
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dungeon of dredmor is old as hell and found it through totalbiscuit, cogmind is still in early access

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@pure valley watched a 2 hour review of the game and i concede. i was under the impression that it was elden ring abilities and weapons but it has proper build abilities and has metaprogression through relics

woven hearth
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Im not reading all mesages on my phone @pure valley is elden ring a visual novel with datin sim elements yes or no?

solemn shell
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i think it is

woven hearth
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I suspected it

solemn shell
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im gonna say yes

willow valley
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Makes sense

woven hearth
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Bit of a hot take but i dont think that the 5 hour long make out scene between the tarnished ans the frenzied flame was vital to the plot but what do i know, right?

white galleon
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yeah ur so wrong

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it was so needed

rigid dune
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I thoguht nightreigh is gonna be mid, but looking at gameplay. Very solid.

solemn shell
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nightreign seems peak

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havent been able to do an expedition yet

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but the hub is sick

viscid cedar
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is nightreign standalone?

solemn shell
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its an entirely different game yes

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this is a roguelike spinoff

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i havent gotten to do much in the playtest but like

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this pretty much seems exactly like "elden ring if it was a roguelike"

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its not letting me play tho

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every time i try, it kicks me out

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servers are not made well yet methinks

viscid cedar
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I was confused when I couldn't see it on the ER page on steam

solemn shell
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elden ring is more of uhhh

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more of the mainline series title i guess?

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if they make an elden ring 2

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kinda strange they made a spinoff before they even made the main series

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okay now the servers undergoing maintanence so i do believe other people had the problem

solemn shell
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i looked at the elden ring tiwtter and people are so impatient in the replies to the tweet that they're doing maintanence

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like dude they have to troubleshoot an entire server issue

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its not gonna take 10 mins

rancid siren
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yeah i havent been able to get in at all so far

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on playstation of course

solemn shell
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yeah theres only 30 minutes left in the playtest

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im just uh

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going to bed

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hoping they fix it before the next one

woven hearth
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Bed, isnt it 5 am for you?

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Oh yeah, your sleep schedule was fucked up

solemn shell
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i didnt sleep

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nightreign playtest took priority

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but it didnt work 💔

woven hearth
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You werent sleeping regardless

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Lmao

solemn shell
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well i probably would have been sleeping before now

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maybe at 3 am

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i got to see the hub area at least and its quite cool

rancid siren
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didnt even get in once lol

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spent like 2 hours waiting and by that point i knew they weren't fixing the network issues today

solemn shell
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im hoping they add another playtest period

rancid siren
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i'd say it's a 50/50 chance they do

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it'd be very easy for them to just say "welp that's what the test is for" and not bother

vital schooner
solemn shell
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after playing the entire 3 hours of this nightreign test

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this is peak

rancid siren
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Managed to sneak in a couple games in the last hour

solemn shell
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how far'd you get

rancid siren
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Only day 2

solemn shell
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at least you got past day 1

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it took me until my very last run to beat day 1

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and on that run i went all the way to day 3 and died to the night lord when it had like an 10th of its health left

rancid siren
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Tbf I probably coulda gone further but the servers shut down :(

solemn shell
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day 2 is super tough but i had more oppurtunity to gear up for it

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so it worked out

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i was also kinda carried by the mage and duchess on my team

rancid siren
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I got jumpscared by || Morgott || mid fight with a dragon

solemn shell
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the mage could easily res anyone just with some DOT spells they had

rancid siren
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Pretty bs of him but funny nonetheless

solemn shell
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i did not expect it at all

rancid siren
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I was solo at that point too, the servers were shutting down and I was just running around solo trying to do as much as I could lol

solemn shell
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wait

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how'd you play solo

rancid siren
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Other two guys disconnected

solemn shell
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didnt know that was possible

rancid siren
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It was around when fromsoft were meant to shut down the servers but I still got to play like an extra 20 mins

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I did have someone disconnect mid game on my first run and it was just me and one other guy playing

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Funnily erm

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|| centipede demon was our day 1 boss but it didn't spawn in and we had to jump out the circle to die lol ||

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It was just the boss music and us stuck in the circle, not even a health bar or noises from it, just missing entirely

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I almost died laughing because I was so hyped for this beta specifically to fight old bosses in the new engine and the first one I see, doesn't even appear

solemn shell
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||got demihuman bosses in every single other run||

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if you havent noticed, the spawn location determines the boss

rancid siren
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(unironically have had an awful time with this game so far because of the technical issues but I gotta stay positive lol)

solemn shell
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i dont think theyve implemented a lot of the actual randomization thats supposed to be in the full game

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cause there seems to only be two spawn locations and bosses currently

rancid siren
solemn shell
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i dont like guardian really

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wylder is the one for me

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grappling hook and super flame of the redmanes is awesome

rancid siren
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I like it better than Wylder tbh but I'm not big on the bird design lol

solemn shell
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very useful in a squad too for the poisebreak, and grappling to someone to rez them

solemn shell
rancid siren
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Well I love Wylder's design lol

solemn shell
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me too its actually sick

rancid siren
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I'm honestly a bit disappointed the Sekiro deflect character isn't in this beta

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Also

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The controls in this are weird

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Not running with Circle/B is so messed up

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And your flask being in the top left corner as opposed to on your D-PAD items is weird

solemn shell
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it uses less stamina than the other version

rancid siren
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won a game

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final boss is sick af

solemn shell
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it is

rancid siren
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got another

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i think i got a really solid route for the map

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getting all the healing, fighting tons of bosses and getting tons of runes pretty easy

wise ingot
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genuinely just the worst take you could have about that entire thing

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oh that was 3 days ago mb

woven hearth
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Lets not bring this discussion back

pure valley
solemn shell
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time for the final nightreign test

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gonna beat a run this time trust

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@rancid siren are you participating in this session too

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if so, wanna group up for a run

solemn shell
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YOOO FINALLY WON A RUN

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this game is so sick

rancid siren
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Didn't bother with the final test

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Lost too much sleep staying up for that second test after the servers died on the first

languid axle
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Did you fight star scourge radaan riding on the shoulders of consort radaan at the end?

solemn shell
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really cinematic fight tbh, would die again

paper otter
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How was the bed of chaos with godskin duo at double speed in a deathblight swamp, while Anor Londo archers shoot at you from every angle?

languid axle
paper otter
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Like, those things are massive

languid axle
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Have it so If you beat nameless king with no one taking any damage he gets pissed and hops in a armored core

paper otter
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Nameless king reveals himself to actually exist in every timeline and is V.IV Rusty

languid axle
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(his armored core is yet another radaan version)

paper otter
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Armored core: consort of miquella.

solemn shell
languid axle
# paper otter Armored core: consort of miquella.

Miquella if he stopped being a little whiney piss piss baby and decided to do shit himself instead of...brainwashing? Charming? Charmwashing.

He'd be cooler if he drove a armored core to do shit instead of charmwashing people to serve him

willow valley
languid axle
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The game becomes MGRR for a sec

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This was the only gif of it

paper otter
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Even better, you gotta kill a boss while armored cores are having a duel above you. You gotta dodge the effects of their fight while killing Margit again

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Being touched slightly by anything kills you in game, and in real life, and deletes your operating system

woven hearth
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When ii get to the final night and i see the nameless king riding Arkveld to battle

languid axle
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Dawg I think if it kills you IRL you don't need the OS or the in game thing SOLKEKW

woven hearth
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Nameless king but awesome

paper otter
languid axle
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Wack

vital schooner
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is beating elden ring without summons a challenge run or is it beating the game the way god intended it to be played thinkeline MayPopcorn

solemn shell
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neither

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its just one of many ways to play

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its the way i always play but i know plenty of people who like summons

solemn shell
pure valley
solemn shell
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i was thinking summons like spirit ashes

pure valley
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FaustNani oh yeah they exist

solemn shell
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just remembered its a word for npc summons

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havent played elden ring in too long

pure valley
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SOLKEKW we both forgot the other option existed

solemn shell
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yeah lol

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last time i played elden ring was technically nightreign playtest if you count that

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but it doesnt even have summons or spirit ashes so

vital schooner
viscid cedar
white galleon
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currently seeing how many elden ring things i can rip off for my dnd campaign i love being creative

willow valley
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Real, creativity is the best part of making a campaign frfr

white galleon
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i think i can replace coins with runes

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just have 1xp be 1 rune

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would be weird to balance but

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would be fun

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i may not call it runes cause theres no shattering in my campaign hfsdhfsd

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souls could work better

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or

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hm

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what would the crucible equivalent of runes be

willow valley
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There isn't one known

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Echoes is what Bloodborne uses though

white galleon
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oh im reading about echoes, kind of neat

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yeah blood echoes go hard

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i think i may steal blood echoes

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my players will notice this

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i should rename it, maybe old blood, or crucible blood

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or idfk

willow valley
white galleon
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im thinking about ashblood,
when a creature dies, whatever powers are strongest in the area claims it, leaving only ashblood

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so basicaly they either rot really quickly or get set ablaze idfk, maybe only fire, cause fire is cool

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the name might change idk if i like ashblood

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they may not even be physical idfk

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im indecisicve

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remnants of the crucible does go hard

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yeah remnant of the crucible goes so hard i just looked up the definition of remnant

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i may call them remnants then

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thank youu

willow valley
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No problem

white galleon
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now the only question should remnant be a physical substance or actually just be in the holders blood

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or both, maybe remnant is very volatile outside of a body

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or something

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blowsup

willow valley
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Are players able to use that volatility for anything?

white galleon
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maybe, could be fun!

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or just a waste of xp jhsdfhdsfhsd

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idk!

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im a first time DM who loves being overambitious

languid axle
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As in like
The goop from fnaf that makes the robots come alive

white galleon
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i know nothing abpout fnaf

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please dont say remnant is a real thing in fnaf

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i gonna have to rename it i guess

languid axle
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I'm so fucking EVVVVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLL

white galleon
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or i could just keep calling it remnant and if my players mention fnaf i throw my massive d20 at them

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every fnaf reference = walk on a pile of d4s

willow valley
languid axle
white galleon
pure valley
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I am always of the opinion that a first time dm should read the rules as little as possible

languid axle
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Based

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Fuck reading

pure valley
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Nah honestly tho

white galleon
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im homebrewing so much hehshe

pure valley
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The more you try and adhere to the rules the more your players will as well

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Which means they'll be less creative

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And everything will boil down to a stat check

willow valley
white galleon
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i sompletely fucked with the AC system cause i want having high ac to not be like, That op, so your ability ro dodge is 10 + dex and the rest of the AC from the armor turns into damage reduction, crits pass through half of damage reduction, i think it could work, maybe cause less one shots at lower levels, make a real distinction between multi attacks and singular huge attacks

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is it gonna be balanced? idk itll be fun though

willow valley
white galleon
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fore sure

pure valley
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:InoPlan i don't want to rain on your parade but this is why saving throws exist

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To balance high ac

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Which of course comes with its own set of issues

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Fuck monks and rogues

white galleon
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ok so i have to add a save or suck to every encounter cause one of my players has an ac of 27

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one of my players doenst actually have 27 ac twas an exampke

pure valley
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Yes exactly

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Many issues

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Iirc 27 ac is max base with shield spell

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So that's actually a good example

white galleon
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imo saves are there to give the spell casters something they can avoid sometimes, thankfully everything isnt attack rolls

languid axle
white galleon
languid axle
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If you cant cut em
Concuss em

willow valley
pure valley
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Save or suck is usually for cc spells, you can have a spell deal half damage on save

willow valley
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Better against armor, worse against flush or smtn

white galleon
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now i understand

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i think blunt weapons will simply be a minus something to enemy DR

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im so tempted to make piercing weapons crit easier

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atleast foir daggers

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giving each weapon its own little

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perk

languid axle
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Warframe stats

willow valley
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They could get bonus damage on crits

pure valley
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Are you playing 5e or 2024

white galleon
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maybe!

languid axle
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Puncture crits
Impact beTs armor

white galleon
pure valley
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Fuck buying things

languid axle
white galleon
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i think critting with elemental damae should have some effect too

white galleon
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like setting alight, frostbite elden ring, arcing damage for lightning

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etc

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could be

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maybne too much

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but

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who knows!

willow valley
pure valley
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I would warn against frostbite elden ring

pure valley
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Huge hassle to track

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But the others seem cool

white galleon
willow valley
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For how long though

white galleon
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idk 1d4 rounds might be a little bit too much

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it'd let me introduce items that cure ailments

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resource management is fun

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frost could also just be like

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halve movement

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might be simpler hdsfhsdfh

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oUHGH i found a pdf that turns all the elden ring races into dnd ones

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i can add albinaurics and omens and

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misbegotten

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yessssssssssssssss

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im happy

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honestly i should go to sleep instead of prepping a 4th encounter theres not gonna be 4 encounters in session 1

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the idea for that 4th encounter is some particularly smark cultures drop a carcass at the party to lure in some other predator nearby or something

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could be spooky scary ahhhhhhhh

viscid cedar
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I hate the discourse around DS2

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its like everyone wants to be the cool side by holding an extreme opinion instead of holding positions that's supported with well constructed points

last wing
viscid cedar
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I sometimes also feel like DS2 gets too much hate

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the more I learn about the games development process I'm grateful that the game feels good as it is

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and also the "DS2 is actually good and all of its flaws are intentional" crowd is sort of overcorrecting to the opposite side of "DS2 was done by interns and its the worst game of all time"

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anyways let me reinstall DS2 I wanna complete my hexer caster run

solemn shell
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i actually kinda like ADP and the focus on strafing at the beginning of the game

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dodging attacks by strafing is pretty fun

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feels like monster gunter

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hunter

viscid cedar
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ADP is like one of the worst aspects of the game I would say

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its pretty much a mandatory stat for all builds and it exists because they artificially made your dodge shit in the beginning

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worst thing you do when it comes to progression in video games is to carve up basic features of your character and paint them as improvements to your base abilities and they made just that

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dodging was fine in DeS and DS1, but suddenly you have to earn your dodges now

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I think its telling of Fromsofts opinion that this feature were never brought again

rancid siren
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It honestly makes Dark Souls 3 look pretty bland in comparison

pure valley
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What do you wish for?

last wing
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I can see it, even some small things in DS2 i wish they'd bring back.

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Like the way you held weapons

pure valley
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I miss unique powerstances

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And the bonfire ascetic

viscid cedar
#

doesn't ER have them already?

#

powerstances I mean

pure valley
#

Only between same weapon types with very few exceptions

#

Its also only powerstance, you don't get a lefthanded r1 moveset

rancid siren
willow valley
#

Oh, like the ones that actively hunt you

rancid siren
#

Yeah

willow valley
#

Honestly real

#

Forlorn my behated and all that

rancid siren
#

Also like that one dude with the Lance in the last DLC that tries to be all friendly and backstab you when you look away

willow valley
#

They also lead you down into the depths of the curse tower

viscid cedar
rancid siren
#

It's mean but smart af that he leads you to a covetous demon to try to outnumber you

willow valley
#

At least we got Armored Peak for actually good NG+ content

pure valley
#

Ng+ new content comes back in AC6 NagoNod

#

Still froms best game imo

willow valley
#

Honestly real

rancid siren
#

Definitely one of the best stories they ever did

#

Though I never played the older AC games so I can't say for sure

willow valley
#

FA has 4 endings iirc

#

I think both 5th gen games only had 1 ending, but they were really weird as a whole

last wing
languid axle
#

Lmao

viscid cedar
willow valley
#

Blowjob brothers beat the entirety of Dark Souls III in the two days before Wilds release

languid axle
#

Crazy

woven hearth
vital schooner
#

What

willow valley
#

What's confusing?

pure valley
#

Classic

last wing
vital schooner
willow valley
viscid cedar
swift raptorBOT
viscid cedar
vital schooner
#

is there actually exactly 69 weapons in the game

last wing
vital schooner
#

Oh I missed the buff word

#

I got stun locked at 69

last wing
#

Mind debuffed

viscid cedar
#

happy ramadan frombros

vital schooner
#

the guy who did the curse you bayle line went pretty fucking hard in that job eh

last wing
#

So hard that for that one time I fought Bayle alone I missed hearing him

solemn shell
#

me and multiple of my friends all memorized the rant because of how hard it goes

#

weve also made stupid jokes 3 seperate times

#

like, what do you say if you're being hit by ice from the sky

#

CURSE YOU, HAIL

#

that but with different versions, over and over and over and over and over

#

weve had 3 seperate sessions of it, and each one lasted pretty long

#

its honestly the best

last wing
languid axle
#

I looked up the curse you bayle monologue for funsies the other day

#

Never before in my life have I ever wanted to see a NPC succeed more than that guy

woven hearth
#

Pretty sad that summoning him makes it way too easy 😔

last wing
#

It's nowhere near how much Leda or the two for Messmer take away from their fights

solemn shell
#

i usually never use summons cause im a solo player type of guy

#

i summoned him because i thought it would further the quest, heard the awesome monologue, and then he was just like the chillest summon too

#

occasionally helping me stancebreak but not usually taking all the aggro

#

thats what i want out of a summon

#

i love igon

last wing
#

Just killed the blood starved beast now too
Easiest boss to shoot in the face?

solemn shell
#

i just love the idea of a boss that you find in almost every area because its "hunting" you

woven hearth
#

love him but i like to fight hte boss more

last wing
willow valley
#

The Blowjob brothers have done it again

rigid dune
#

Unfortunate name. Pass my condolences to them.

viscid cedar
#

can you play bloodborne on shadps4 rn?

#

I've been meaning to replay Bloodborne but I have to find a full HD TV to play it

paper otter
#

I’m sure if you’re fully dedicated and find the right stuff, it’ll work

viscid cedar
#

what's your specs?

paper otter
viscid cedar
#

tbh I might go with the original hardware for now, setting up emus for consoles newer than PS1 tend to be ass

#

I think it me hours to setup DeS for the first time

rancid siren
#

I've never had terrible trouble with emulating PS2 or PS3 games but I literally could never get DeS to work

#

It'd always crash in the tutorial section

last wing
languid axle
#

Based as fuck

solemn shell
#

this was coded in purposefully btw

languid axle
#

So.
Fucking.
Based.

vital schooner
willow valley
last wing
willow valley
#

I'm so pissed I'm not gonna be able to play Duskbloods when it drops probably

swift raptorBOT
viscid cedar
#

I hate that it looks really good

#

reminds me of the time when they released Bayo 2 on Wii U and nobody played it

sick kindle
#

I can't believe we got a switch 2 exclusive from soft title and elden ring on Nintendo before bloodborne 2

rancid siren
#

So like erm

#

Multiplayer centered, sorta like Nightreign but I doubt there's gonna be much single player content if any

#

If it is multiplayer only then you're spending money on Nintendo's online bs just to play it too

#

I pray there actually is some sort of single player mode because I really can't see the appeal otherwise

#

And you're already having your wallet drained just to play it lol

vital schooner
#

what you dont have faith in fromsofts shitty netplay on nintendos shitty connection?

rancid siren
#

Mind you this game is probably gonna be like

#

Full price

vital schooner
#

try full price+

rancid siren
#

not lowered like nightreign

#

Just cuz of Nintendo

vital schooner
#

or maybe if its up to fromsoft they will be reasonable and its only nintendos inhouse getting the full price+ or ++ treatment

rancid siren
#

Who knows but it's really just not getting me hyped

#

Im excited for Nightreign even though on the surface it's a very similar game

#

But nightreign is so so so much more accessible to play than this game ever will be unless it comes to pc and other consoles

vital schooner
#

it could be a timed exclusive

#

but i wouldnt hold my breath for it

#

it really felt like they wanted to make fun of sony and make blodoborne 2 at home

rancid siren
#

Hopefully because this is easily just a worse version of Bloodborne in almost every way from what we know so far

vital schooner
#

but im worried about the pvpve aspect, most games that had that have failed. the only one i can think of right now, well 2, are plagued with hackers

rancid siren
#

It's strange cuz it's clear they're also supporting Nightreign with alot of post- release content

#

Like DLCs and all sorts

#

And it makes me wonder if fromsoft is taking a COD approach to their future games where there's a big multiplayer game everyone plays every year and the next year there's a new one and so on

#

I assume all this is just testing the waters for the right formula for that kinda thing

rancid siren
vital schooner
#

its been around for a while

#

the first game i remember with it was the dark zone in the division

#

and that was 2016

rancid siren
#

Yeah but it feels like it's not really justified the games that being made to chase that trend

#

Like erm

#

Battle Royales

#

They were decently popular in the same way for a long while pre-2017

#

But as soon as Fortnite came around, evverrrry games company wanted in

#

I don't feel like there's been any pvpve games with that amount of success to justify all the focus on that genre

vital schooner
#

its technically a untapped market

rancid siren
#

I suppose so but that is why it feels forced afterall

#

Everyone wants to jump on the idea because being first can mean maybe getting even a quarter or a third of the success that games like Fortnite have had over the years

#

And being the next Fortnite is basically like winning the jackpot

vital schooner
#

im ok with fromsoft experimenting with different stuff, i just wish they did it in the scifi setting

rancid siren
#

This is admittedly the closest to a modern day setting for a souls game we've seen from fromsoft

#

They got trains and stuff

#

Who knows

#

They probably do have some big massive single player souls game coming like

#

2027 or 2028

#

That'll actually blow people away

#

And they're just squeezing as much money as they can with Elden Ring's engine and models and gameplay before they make the next leap

#

Which is why NightReign uses so much Elden Ring content, and Duskbloods basically just looks like Bloodborne inside Elden Ring

willow valley
#

Why are people online suddenly pretending like FromSoft netcode isn't literally the spawn of Satan

vital schooner
#

People are saying that

willow valley
#

It's more that people are complaining about people complaining Nightrein and Duskbloods are so multiplayer focused, when a lot of the complaints about that focus are about FromSoft netcode

vital schooner
#

Can't I hate both in peace?!

willow valley
#

Yes

rancid siren
swift raptorBOT
vital schooner
#

Not a single player game at all

#

You have to queue into matches

willow valley
#

Unfortunate

last wing
pure valley
languid axle
#

Ah hell nah

vital schooner
#

not a battle royale

pure valley
vital schooner
#

battle royale has one objective, when you queue up you get different game modes

vital schooner
#

covenants are back in duskblood though

#

so thats a plus

rancid siren
cinder sinew
vital schooner
willow valley
#

Never would've thought based on the state of their desk

vital schooner
rancid siren
#

she's fun tho, super DPS focused, her special dodge has tons of leniency and i remember using it to bait bosses long enough for teammates to revive eachother or get my abilities back

#

and her ult thingy is very strong too

#

wouldnt be surprised if she gets heavily nerfed when the game comes out

willow valley
vital schooner
eager gyro
willow valley
#

Oh hell yeah

#

I'm surprised it can be articulated so well

eager gyro
#

bandai has usually been really good with articulation on model kits, at least for recent stuff

#

i havent seen any of the other ac6 kits yet though COPIUM

willow valley
#

We're so back

vital schooner
#

The blow job bros?

swift raptorBOT
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vital schooner
#

I thought this game was out already

rose oracle
#

i guess may 30th

rigid dune
static whale
rose oracle
#

if it isn't 70 bucks i might get it

rose oracle
#

who are the voice actors for all the characters

rancid siren
#

It's gonna be like 40 dollars I think

vital schooner
#

spoilers but if you wanted to see a full boss fight

#

of game journalists fighting it SOLKEKW

#

ill never understand why people think coop boss fights is fun

rancid siren
#

they've only shown like 4 of the night lords so far

#

so i wonder if there's some sorta big step up in the late game

swift raptorBOT
vital schooner
swift raptorBOT
willow valley
cinder sinew
languid axle
#

Radahn clearly a fan of apple fritter

last wing
vital schooner
#

i wonder if you can call a static map a rogue like

#

or

#

if its more like .. whats that games name

#

fortnite

languid axle
#

I feel like we've been here before, have we been here before?

woven hearth
#

compound, shut up

#

go complain about juri´s 5hp or something

vital schooner
#

🤔

languid axle
languid axle
#

Feeling a bit devious today

vital schooner
#

ive said my piece. just gotta wait till the game comes out and see how people think. but i bet its going to feel more like a br or extraction shooter than it will a rogue lite. calling this a rogue lite is like calling destiny an mmo

rancid siren
#

i think that's fine tbh

#

playing the game in that network test it's definitely more focused on being more gamey and about doing these matches with friends

vital schooner
#

that cat knows whats up

pure valley
rancid siren
#

ik this game's gonna be amazing for streamers tho

#

you can do coop with the viewers

languid axle
#

Monster Hunter coded

rose oracle
rose oracle
#

The game looks cool, I have no idea if I’ll play it though cause I suck at soul’s likes

north otter
#

Beat Elden Ring with Sorceries only the other day

#

Doing an all-bosses-run atm

willow valley
#

What'd you think of the experience?

north otter
#

Needed a break from the torture that was rl1 and weapon level 0 lol

north otter
# willow valley What'd you think of the experience?

Magic only was pretty alright tbh. Wasn't exactly easy-mode (partly because I didn't use terra magica or comet azur) but it was still pretty easy. Tbf I mostly used the magic sword spell (carian sword i think?) so it was just basic dodging

#

I prolly could've min-maxxed the shit out of the other spells but the damage I already did was sifficient

#

Ended at level 90 something I think

willow valley
#

Carian Slicer?

#

Or the pokey one

north otter
willow valley
#

Okay so

#

I don't mean to burst your bubble

#

But I'll be completely honest

#

That's probably the best spell in the game SOLKEKW

#

It gets NUTTY

#

Still a fun run though, I actually did a similar run a while back, nice work doing it yourself

north otter
#

Comet azur has a higher floor on making it viable (in terms of preparation) but a way higher ceiling and stuff like comet can get insane too

#

Slicer is the most versatile tho I feel

#

Either way, I was mostly looking to have a challenge in terms of managing resources but that ended rather quickly sadly Sadge

willow valley
#

I can imagine, were you mainly dumping Int or the FP stat I can't remember the name of

north otter
#

Mind

#

A big challenge run I wanna do at some point is RL1 w0

#

But that one's really scary lol

#

That's the really big one

#

Gonna do all-bosses for now (including DLC since I've never actually done a lot of them) and after that maybe rolling damage only lol

willow valley
#

Yeah, my big one was a 0 death, mainly just because I didn't feel confident enough to do RL1 or 0 hit, and I think I've been making decent progress on the latter at least

willow valley
north otter
#

Idk I really wanna learn the movesets and that seems to be a good way of doing that lol

north otter
willow valley
willow valley
north otter
#

Early game elden ring just has a lot of downtime I feel

#

Actual shopping list in the first 4h

willow valley
#

Yeah

#

Took me like 20-30 minutes just to get everything set up at the start of each run

north otter
#

Yeah

#

I remember one streamer doing his first 0 hit run in Dark souls doing the weirdest route of all time

#

Guy did the first few bosses, then went to DLC as soon as he could just to get gold tracer and then did the rest of the game

#

Took a huge detour with horrible damage for one weapon lol

willow valley
#

Interesting strat

north otter
#

But hey, it worked

willow valley
#

Is it because he missed BKH?

north otter
#

Idk

#

He could've also just used the (crystal) halberd

#

Also insane weapon

willow valley
#

True

north otter
#

Also I will say that w0 was actually really cool, I ended up using ant spur rapier with bleed and poison or smth

#

Well, also some star fist for other bosses

#

Was just a cool run

willow valley
#

You mentioned it earlier, but what is w0? I don't think I've seen that shorthand anywhere

north otter
#

Just weapon level 0

#

Not upgrading weapons

willow valley
#

Ah, makes sense

rancid siren
#

like one of the worst souls experiences i had cuz u have to beat his first phase every single time to even have a go at the second phase and understand what's happening

#

rl1 mohg tho is actually a peak fight

willow valley
#

Mohg is just a peak fight fr fr

rancid siren
#

i remember i dual wielded lordsworn straightswords with bleed on them for the first phase

#

so i could DPS through his easier phase and make the second phase shorter

#

and then i used star fists with cold since by that point the bleed didnt matter

willow valley
#

I pretty much just Speedrun to his fight with BHF since that always gets the job done more than well enough

rancid siren
#

i remember using that for most of my rl1 run till morgott i think

#

i cant remember if i still used it on fire giant but i remember using rot arrows on him for phase 2

#

which made it pretty safe tbh, i was pretty worried about him being a roadblock but he was done on my third try i think

willow valley
#

Nice strat

#

Iirc BHF is actually what's used for all remembrance speedrun now, it's just the fastest option for that category by the looks of it

rancid siren
#

i think the most fun thing about the rl1 run was all the experimentation you could do

#

even by the endgame you could still stack defense stats really high and tank most hits atleast once

willow valley
#

Yeah, I can imagine how

#

That reminds me

#

I've been watching the region locked hitless, and it's really cool

rancid siren
#

hitless runs nowadays are pretty insane tbh

#

like people add on like 20 different rules to make them harder or do hitless runs of the entire series in one sitting

willow valley
#

The god run 3 is insane, yeah

rancid siren
#

i remember when hitless DS2 all bosses + DLC was too hard lol

#

ER really introduced so many people to the series that i think any challenge is doable now

willow valley
#

Yeah, probably

#

Another thing I've been reminded of, I really want to do a full operation deathless again in Helldivers 2, I haven't managed to pull it off since launch due to the belligerent shit getting toned down, but I think I could probably do it

#

And then eventually I want to see if I could get hitless

languid axle
#

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Stay tuned. The path ahead is only beginning.

#

Jack black tarnished

#

Jack black tarnished

#

ELDEN RING

#

I can already see the memes

rancid siren
#

ngl, i can see kevin hart as patches

willow valley
#

A movie about Patches escapades would be kinda peak

#

It would end with him dying but still

last wing
#

When's Nightreign releasing again

pure valley
#

29th pretty sure

languid axle
#

Like

#

This month

pure valley
#

ye

languid axle
#

1ish week away

#

WOW

last wing
#

Yeah I'm not gonna be able to get it immediately lmao

#

I was planning on it but I just ain't gonna have the money

languid axle
#

How much is it?

last wing
#

40 buckaroonies

languid axle
#

Hmmm

#

Might get it ngl

rancid siren
#

I hope they put duos in the game

quick cosmos
#

I'm going to wait for what people say about it before getting it

rose oracle
#

2nd play through of armored core 6

#

honestly i forgot how fun it is to be a fast moving tank with 4 different weapons

vital schooner
rancid siren
#

wtf he's a lizard?

pure valley
#

thats clearly a dog

rancid siren
#

So it's a turtle... SinClueless

vital schooner
#

looks like some streamers are playing a nightreign event?

vital schooner
pure valley
vital schooner
#

dont have to wait much longer for the base game

pure valley
rancid siren
vital schooner
swift raptorBOT
static whale
#

Fuck yes bro

vital schooner
#

wtf is this 2006?

#

i saw the title and thought it would be this but then i thought nah they wouldnt be that lame

rigid dune
#

Evanasence? Really?

vital schooner
#

ya elden ring became woke

tepid dome
#

would anyone want to play Nightreign with me and another when it's playable

pure valley
#

We've got a whole slew of people interested

tepid dome
#

guess I'll just invite him to the server to make it easier

pure valley
#

NagoNod i suspect there will be alot of people in vc around 6-7 to get games

vital schooner
# pure valley We've got a whole slew of people interested

A whole slew of people getting ready to ... Drop in... With gliders... Into a map that has a zone... Where the map has random loot but the same locations... where the zone is a circle that gets small...Where people team up in sets of 3s? Sounds sus tbh

pure valley
#

Maps are randomized compound

vital schooner
#

Odd that

pure valley
#

Odd that several reviews out today said that was outdated

#

Also like come on

#

Your gotcha is a reddit question with one comment?

tepid dome
#

I watched Pineapple's latest review of the game and he said it's like 70 or 80% the same map

pure valley
#

But it do be different(sometimes)

vital schooner
#

i was under the impression it was the same map but similar in how they do it in fortnite where they put in a event and an area has a creator now. then once the season or event is over same map

pure valley
#

You clearly know more about fortnight than me

vital schooner
#

exactly so when i saw something moves like a duck and quacks like a duck

#

its prob a duck

pure valley
vital schooner
#

geese is a man and looks nothing like a duck

pure valley
#

AnjiNotes what about meese

vital schooner
#

thats more than one moose

pure valley
#

Yeah

vital schooner
#

have you guys seen a moose irl

pure valley
#

Yeah

#

But It was dead

vital schooner
#

mr buzzkill over here

pure valley
#

Not my fault

#

Blame the taxidermist

solemn shell
#

nightreign soon

static whale
#

It’s out now chat

vital schooner
rigid dune
#

So nightreign. Any good?

willow valley
solemn shell
#

me and my friend were one of the first to win a run i think

last wing
solemn shell
#

sure probably

#

playing with my friend right now and its gotten annoying waiting for a third person in matchmaking

vital schooner
#

has to be good if blender is still playing this late on a work day

rigid dune
#

@vast helm How do you respond to the above allegation?

vital schooner
#

omg hes still in call, he must have taken the day off work

vital schooner
#

the worst review ive seen of it so far is "it just feels like a really good modded elden ring" which considering i guess isnt so bad

solemn shell
#

i mean kinda i guess

#

the thing about that though is that mods pretty much only ever use unused content or existing content slightly changed

#

this has plenty of completely new things

#

anyways just got done playing the game for 11 hours straight, can confirm it is peak, and it is different

rancid siren
#

Been playing with my friend earlier today

#

Very fun but some of the changes from the network test to the main game got me a little annoyed

#

Especially how damaging the storm is now

solemn shell
vital schooner
rancid siren
#

Just beat my first nightlord solo

#

Pretty sick

#

Got a really clutch finish too with Wylder's ability

rancid siren
#

you used to be able to insta revive anyone at maxxed out revive bars with your ultimate ability depending on the character but it does very little damage now

#

which imo is a bit cringe...

#

doesnt reward team play that much or let you weigh the options of using it on the boss or your teammates

paper otter
#

Nightreign worth getting?

#

been looking at it but i dont got 3 friends

rancid siren
#

If you're super big into souls games then probably

paper otter
#

ive beat elden ring like, 7 times. So I do love it

rancid siren
#

Even without friends tho I'm sure tons of communities have people looking to play and chat

#

Plus they're adding duos in the near future

paper otter
#

oh thank god

#

Ill grab it before long in that case

rancid siren
#

Imo it's very very quick pace tho

#

If you're iffy on having a souls game that actively rushes you all the time to do as much as possible under that time limit then I get it

#

Base ER had great exploration so some people aren't gonna quite get that same satisfaction

#

The focus is way more on teamwork, split second decision making and the fights here

solemn shell
#

it depends

#

its very different from your usual souls games

#

its more like sekiro than any of the others tbh

#

even besides the sekiro character

rancid siren
#

I don't see the sekiro comparison besides having a penalty put on you for dying

rigid dune
#

How is the experience with randoms?

rancid siren
#

And if you like the combat

#

You'll probably have a great time

rancid siren
#

It certainly gets better the later in the game you go I assume

solemn shell
#

you have a really fast dash, you have walljumps

#

the combat isnt very sekiro besides executor but its just the movemet

rigid dune
#

Game kinda fun. But laggy. Fromsoft netcode is unfortunate.

rancid siren
#

Maybe it's regional or something

pure valley
#

Its probably a skill issue but holy shit ||EQ beast, libra || is so ridiculously strong compared to the other night lords

rigid dune
# pure valley gaming?

No. I went to sleep after that run. I did kill the wolf. Got carried by ppl who knew what they were doing. Just followed around and fired some arrows here and there. Pleasent experience.

rancid siren
#

fallen in love with the ironeye class tbh

#

just a very fun moveset

#

also holy fuck the second nightlord boss actually nearly crashed me and my friend's PC when it phase transitioned

#

|| i ran ironeye with a poison bow + a bow with rain of stars on, while my friend ran recluse, and whenever i poisoned the boss it'd stagger and vomit out the poison. I'd just spam rain of arrows and my friend used comet azur and just tore him up ||

solemn shell
#

he directly attacks your framerate

solemn shell
#

that boss is crazy

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same with ||darkdrift knight|| imo

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||though i never got far in that fight actually, we just all instantly died the first time and then never fought him again||

solemn shell
# solemn shell yeah ive uh noticed

||i think actually a big reason to why libra is so hard is because madness is so hard to come by, so its rare to get the special interaction with it (i dont even know what it is)||

vital schooner
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been hearing this more and more

solemn shell
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people are saying its bad?

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whats wrong with them

vital schooner
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saying its mid

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its alright

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vital schooner
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in fromsoft language its bad, the first miss from the company

solemn shell
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thats cringe

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just cause its not the type of game they like doesnt mean its bad

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i think its peak

pure valley
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once you get into the game its much better

pure valley
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pure valley
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iron eye is the 2nd best class imo

solemn shell
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i beat tricephalos as raider, ||gaping jaw|| as wylder, ||both sentient pest and augur|| as ironeye

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||augur is insanely easy as ironeye if you just get a lightning bow, theres like no challenge at all||

pure valley
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||but not if you get a magic bow welsh||

vital schooner
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the tldr of the video is that the game gets super repetitive fast, all the sub genres of the game is malnourished, every run is almost exactly the same, no cross play and no communication is a bummer. and the fact they forgot duos can be a thing was a weird choice. and the rogue like elements are super lacking

solemn shell
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thats just wrong but okay

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pure valley
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||cause we ran augur earlier and he had a magic bow||

solemn shell
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ohhh

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yeah lol

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what are your thoughts on running two of the same class

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is that a better idea or a bad idea

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personally i havent seen an issue with it unless the class is recluse

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when you have two recluses, its harder to grab affinities cause of the other recluse taking it first, its harder for you both to get good spells, and idk its just kinda annoying

pure valley
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Yeah i haven't been too off put by it

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Raider is good in doubles but I hate the stone pillar he has

solemn shell
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i dont understand it

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why does he have it

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you could have made an AOE damage buff without a big stone that blocks your attacks

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i do like raider a lot i just wish his ult was better

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its the same for executor

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the way he can just die during his ult, unlike every other character in the game

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i want to get good at recluse, she's so cool

rancid siren
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i think my only gripe is there isnt much variety so far

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im on the third nightlord and i see some variety in bosses

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|| i even got smeltor demon one time ||

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but say if you get those shifting earth effects

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it's the same exact bs in that shifted area every time

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and the circle will always end in that location

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and the effect only goes away if you beat the run

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when the game works tho and it's randomised events and enemies do something cool this game is amazing though

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just wish i was seeing more of that

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oh yeah i also kinda wish the storm was a little slower cuz it feels like you just never have time to do everything interesting in a run

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like one time i had this cool ass castle in the south with this effect on it in the map but the storm stopped my team from exploring and the shifting earth effect being on the north just made exploring it unviable

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