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solemn shell
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idk

long nacelle
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I might go for the 130 crit Rapier tho

solemn shell
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could use pretty much anything offhand

willow valley
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That combined Frenzy Spells with the ||teleport|| spell in the dlc and that looks like a really cool build

solemn shell
long nacelle
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I'm only active here and in like one more server

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I cannot keep track of so many people
LOL

solemn shell
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im active in like 4 seperate strive servers, a few private servers, and a youtuber server

long nacelle
solemn shell
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with the strive server its like the same people

solemn shell
long nacelle
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My gf used it to escape ||Gaius charge||

willow valley
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I'm acive here, and two MH servers and that's it

solemn shell
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but iirc the description describes it as ||going invisible||

willow valley
long nacelle
solemn shell
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i liked it

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definitely didnt like a certain attack that you all definitely know

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but everything else i had a lot of fun with ngl

long nacelle
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||The fact that he always started with that charge, and you can't even parry it like in DS1... Pure shit.||

solemn shell
willow valley
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One thing I learned about that fight is that the charge counts as a spell

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Because ||Radagon|| can parry it

long nacelle
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My mind went INSTANTLY to DS1
But I was completely disappointed

solemn shell
solemn shell
long nacelle
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Can Moon spells eat it?

solemn shell
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||can carian retaliation......||

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thops' barrier......

long nacelle
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Can I Golden Shield it?

solemn shell
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eternal darkness........

willow valley
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Maybe Thops barrier would work

long nacelle
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Nah bro
I need to test that
Next time I'm there on my next char

solemn shell
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eternal darkness could be really funny but i doubt it would work

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can i just say, eternal darkness is like the coolest spell ever

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its a really cool idea

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you just summon a small black hole to eat all your enemies' magic projectiles

long nacelle
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Only really useful in Raya Lucaria tho

solemn shell
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and all your own

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iirc

solemn shell
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its not super useful

willow valley
long nacelle
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Prob

solemn shell
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theres a lot of spells and weapon arts and stuff like that, its really cool but its super niche

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its sadf

long nacelle
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I do like Carian Retaliation better tho

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Poise DAMAGE

willow valley
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I think it's really funny that people use buckler parry when we have better parries now with the spell parries

solemn shell
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i hate carian retaliation

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they should make the spell parries have worse parry frames to make up for, you know, being spell parries

long nacelle
solemn shell
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but nah they're just better overall

long nacelle
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Makes no sense

solemn shell
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no reason not to use them

willow valley
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I think they tried that in DS3 and it was pretty underwhelming

long nacelle
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I still run my Buckler tho...
Ever since DS1

solemn shell
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thats the kind of balancing i dont like in fromsoft games

willow valley
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I've never like buckler parry personally

long nacelle
willow valley
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I've always liked base shield/fist parries more

long nacelle
solemn shell
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honestly i just dont like parries in general

long nacelle
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I only didn't on DS2 because...
I forgot shields existed there

solemn shell
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feel like they take away from the flow of combat

solemn shell
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in pvp not so much cause like theres not much flow anyways

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its just endless footsies

willow valley
long nacelle
solemn shell
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i mean riposte

willow valley
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Ah, I see

long nacelle
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I find parries so cool
But it used to be MUCH better on DS1
Wasn't so useful on 3 and ER imo
Only against certain enemies and bosses

willow valley
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Yeah critical anims are kinda silly but I think they really sell what you're doing

solemn shell
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using a parry to get a good opening for a big weapon art or attack? now thats where its at

willow valley
long nacelle
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"Burn O Flame"?

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Is that the new name?

solemn shell
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i think yeah

long nacelle
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Thing does DAMAGE

solemn shell
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i feel like firestorm gets worse in every game

willow valley
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Chaos firestorm was pretty silly tho

solemn shell
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that was ds1 right

willow valley
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Yeah

solemn shell
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that was the best iteration

long nacelle
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It was bad in 1
Very bad in 2
Horrible in 3
But actually super good on ER imo

solemn shell
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and it got worse from there

willow valley
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Higher damage firestorm that leave lava behind

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Iirc the damage also scaled off your humanity or some shit I don't remember

solemn shell
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it was good for oneshots

willow valley
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Shit damage though

long nacelle
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The fact that we didn't get Chaos stuff that leave Lava behind...

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Preposterous

willow valley
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Two shot Manus with it in one of my DS1 playthroughs

long nacelle
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Walking around with 30 humanity was SCARY

willow valley
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I do kinda wish we had a mechanic like that in later games

long nacelle
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Losing runes is bad, but like...
Losing Humanity was just absurd

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I also hated losing my skin on DS2

willow valley
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Pretty easy to build up a bunch though since it's pretty easy to not die in DS1

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20 Estus and all that

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I don't get why you need that much btw

long nacelle
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No Blue Estus

willow valley
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I never went above 10 and even then sometimes that was overkill

long nacelle
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On DS3 and ER I only have 9 Healing Flasks
And 5 Blue ones

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My Gf plays 7-7
She just SPAMS Comet tho

willow valley
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I personally split my ER flask count to 10-4

long nacelle
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The Blue Teardrop Talisman made my mage go through ||Belurat Castle|| with only 2 potions

willow valley
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With DS3 I was 10-5 generally but I used very minimal spells so it was probably more worth to just have 15 health flasks and move on

long nacelle
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Also heavy armor and greatshield

willow valley
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I did a run like that once

long nacelle
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They really afraid to die

willow valley
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Was pretty silly ngl

long nacelle
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I have done a Havel Cosplay Run
And it was SUPER funny

willow valley
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My favorite run was probably my Dragonslayer Cosplay run once the DLC hit

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The Dragonslayer armor was so goated

long nacelle
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Favorite run for me was my Solaire Cosplay on DS3
Idk man, for some reason, just fighting normally with a normal straight sword and a normal shield...

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I felt like I was playing true DS

willow valley
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I typically gravitate towards the big shit in ARPGs

long nacelle
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Guts cosplay also amazing
Lol

willow valley
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Dragonslayer Greataxe was my favorite shit though

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Now I got huge ass spears

long nacelle
willow valley
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What will come next

long nacelle
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Big Fists

willow valley
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Even bigger Halberds?

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The possibilities are endless

willow valley
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willow valley
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It was NG+3 and it took me 3 weeks I think before I finally got them

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Only other boss that's taken me anywhere near as long was Amygdala in the chalice dungeon for Bloodborne

long nacelle
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And that fucking Fire Dog on the dungeons...

willow valley
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I actually beat Orphan my first try on my first go through lmao

long nacelle
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NAHHHHHHHHHH
He fucked me up so bad

willow valley
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I'm being fr I've never done it on the first try since then but generally the fight isn't too bad for me

long nacelle
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Maria was kinda easy for me
My gf hates me for that
I just parried man

willow valley
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It's really cool that Bloodborne bosses are so good even after so long

long nacelle
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I do not like most of them
The DLC ones are cool, but really...
That's it for me

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I like BB
Just not as much as the other ganes tbh

willow valley
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I really like the majority of Bloodborne bosses

long nacelle
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Cleric Beast is fun
Amelia was fun
Martyr Logarius was SUPER fun
Gherman was fun af too

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I think I only like those...but

willow valley
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I heard recently that Bloodborne was intended to be a sequel to Demon Souls originally, and ngl I can see it in a lot of the design descisions after playing DeS

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I should play DeS again

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That game's great

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I really hope more people play it, since it's a really interesting game to discuss

long smelt
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i need to get back to bloodborne too busy trying to beat elden ring once tho lol

willow valley
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Definitely do that when you finish Elden Ring, Bloodborne is like top 3 Soulsborne titles

long nacelle
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My personal favs are

  1. DS3
  2. Elden Ring
  3. DS2
  4. DS1
  5. Bloodborne
  6. DeS Remake
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I have not played Sekiro

willow valley
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Ah

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See I was talking about the Ps3 DeS

long nacelle
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Is it too different from the Remake?

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It felt really similar to me

willow valley
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It's pretty similar, but the changes the Bluepoint did make were for the worse imo

long nacelle
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I'll be honest
I didn't understand the game

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I did the first area and it was cool af
Then I went into the desert area
And there, I basically maxed my two weapons and got super strong
By the time I finished it, I had a quality spear on +4 and my Longsword was actually maxed, I think on +10 or +15? I don't remember exactly
Still
When I went to the other areas...
Things were dying too easy

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When it finally got hard again when I got back to Boletaria
I did that cute guy's quest and he gave me access to a ghost boss that gave me a sword to kill the king
I ignored because I wanted to do it with my two weapons
I died like 5 times to King Allant and decided to try that greatsword
Killed him on first try with that

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Idk
I just felt like smt was wrong on 90% of the game

vital schooner
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yea it was their first game under this new formula so its prob aged the worst out of them all. its also 15 years old. but the atmosphere is still so good

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my love for demons souls is def nostalgia but theres so many good moments for me in that game as the first souls like game

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like flame lurker made me shit my pants when i first saw him

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now hes just w/e cuz its all been done before

long smelt
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sekiro is my child

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only game i replayed since like skyrim

long nacelle
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Oh yeah
They needed experience
My first souls was actually DS3
But I gave up midway and came back to DS1
Finished DS1 and then restarted and finished DS3

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Then Bloodborne
Then DeS on my friend's house
Then DS2 (took me a while, but now I love the game)
And finally DeS Remake and ER

long nacelle
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Besides all the chars I created on PS4, 5, PC and brother's house and friend's house
LMAO

long smelt
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i racked like 600 on pc but it was the only game i had really and i was in my hikkineet era

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its in the top 10 probably but theres other stuff id put above it for sure

long nacelle
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I just got OBSESSED when I first played
Everything was new and so cool
I got so immersed

willow valley
long nacelle
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Problem is...
I have EXTREME arachnophobia

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Skyrim did give me some heart attacks

long smelt
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my sister has that and i convinced her to do the intro in vr

long nacelle
long smelt
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shit was hilarious she almost broke the console

willow valley
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I mean while that is a factor that wasn't really what I was talking about

long nacelle
vital schooner
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the tendancies suck if im honest

long nacelle
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I did not care for them and just did whatever
Blind playthrough so

vital schooner
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BUT

willow valley
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I'm more talking about how because the Ancient Hero is blind, you can use a ring that masks the noise you make to completely change the dynamic of his fight

long smelt
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i bought des ps5 but its on the lower end of the to play list

vital schooner
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i think the prison is still my favourite fromsoft design

long nacelle
willow valley
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There's a ton of interactions like that

long nacelle
long nacelle
willow valley
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You can do a similar thing in Allants boss fight too

vital schooner
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its not horror and its more atmospheric but no fromsoft level has put me on edge more than demons souls areas

long nacelle
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I got surprised how pierce and slash for example do such different damages on different enemies

willow valley
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One of the most pervasive cheese methods for the fight is reducing your presence to the point you're practically invisible, and using poison mist or some shit to kill him when he turns his back

long nacelle
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I know some enemies in DS have specific weaknesses
But like, they are REALLY apparent in DeS

long smelt
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there's shit like that in sekiro but its more about specific like items or side arms for a couple bosses

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eg firecrackers basically instakill any animal-type boss or the snap seeds making illusions dissapear in the lady butterfly fight

willow valley
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Probably one of my favorite examples is the holy maiden, there's like 3 routes to victory

rancid siren
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Makes me wish more of the side bosses of elden ring had puzzles or secret weaknesses to them

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Soo many of the dungeon bosses end up being a really low tier enemy that just dies super quick

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It's why I like dark souls 1 so much

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You get bosses like the iron golem that you can make fall off the ledge if you position them to stagger just right

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Or the Taurus demon having the ledge to plunge attack off

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All the dragons being weak to lightning

willow valley
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Or circumventing Nitos skeletons

rancid siren
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Seath with the health regen crystal

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It's very cool that there's just little bits of knowledge like that, that can make all the difference in how you play

vital schooner
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the only cool thing about dark souls 2 that i liked was how exploring can make some boss fights easier

rancid siren
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That too

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if you don't do make him fall of instantly the Dragonrider has the lever that makes the arena bigger

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And the snake woman boss has less poison in the arena if you burn the windmill

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Also I just like the gimmick with Vendrick

willow valley
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I think that sort of stuff is just a different iteration of the ideas Demons Souls did

rancid siren
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Getting 5 giant souls is cool and adds some player choice to how you fight him

willow valley
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Like lightning up the Lost Sinner arena if you find the key to unlock the side gates

rancid siren
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Elden Ring really lacks in the details like that

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It's all mostly weapon interactions

willow valley
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Or how having a torch in the catacombs will make the one NPC vendor there agro

rancid siren
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I think the coolest elden ring got with it were the side dungeons

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Like the light puzzles with those shadow enemies

vital schooner
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people hated how lost sinner you lost your lock on if he jumped high enough

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i loved that

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cuz the lights keep the lock on

rancid siren
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And those dlc dungeons where the ceiling smashes you but you can get on top them to find secret items

willow valley
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Hopefully we get more unique boss stuff in games after Elden Ring

rancid siren
willow valley
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I think so

rancid siren
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Cuz she's meant to represent the chaos witches/bed of chaos from ds1

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Iirc there's a detail too where you can see the bed of chaos insect crawl on the mask during the cutscene for her

willow valley
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I dunno about that, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case given the worm

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Yeah

rancid siren
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Like all the four major bosses of DS2 are just reincarnations of the original four from ds1

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Except the spider one because it's just infested the corpse of the dragon that held that soul

willow valley
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DS2 lore really is something

rancid siren
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I do think it's less like

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Actual reincarnation

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And more just the cycle of things in that world

willow valley
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The fact that Aldia was implied to be like Gwyns brother or something blew my mind when I first played DS2, mainly because the idea of Gwyn having a brother was really weird to me

rancid siren
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Like it's almost a ritual for the chosen undead to go along a certain path and meet specific enemies and do similar things in order to eventually link the first flame

willow valley
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I should really refresh my memory of the lore for DS2 sometime

rancid siren
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I like DS2 tbf because it feels the most like the world's still alright out of any game

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Drangleic and all that is just a really desolate and dangerous place that alot of people go to in search of treasure and stuff

willow valley
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I mean that's one reason they go there, yeah

rancid siren
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Does make me wish we knew more about the world outside of what we saw in the games

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Because there's all these places that come off as still intact societies completely separate for the most part from the events of the main game

willow valley
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I mean it's just a different continent essentially is my interpretation of it

rancid siren
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I mean like

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Places like Catarina or Vinheim

willow valley
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Ah, I see

rancid siren
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Also the far eastern lands that all the japanese stuff comes from

vital schooner
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for every one thing i liked about ds2 there was about 25 things i just absolutely hated

rancid siren
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Idk

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I like ds2

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Just a vibey game

willow valley
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I think DS2 is alright, it's no masterpiece but I enjoy it when I play it

rancid siren
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Just ignore the SOTFS iron keep smelter demon run up and you're golden

restive frost
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this messmer spear build feels like it was meant for ng+, 80/60 dex/faith feels great on it

willow valley
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What were they cooking

restive frost
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actual ASS

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and it making 1/3rd of the messmer flame incants is heartbreaking

quick cosmos
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All of those droplets and only 3 hit... What the hell

rancid siren
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why doesnt it just work like Mohg's blood rain

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it's so bad

restive frost
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i dont KNOW

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please incant fromsoft dev wake up and buff this thing

rancid siren
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got Mohg on RL1

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prob the funnest RL1 boss i've done actually

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i used two straight swords with seppuku ash of wars on them to bleed mohg through his first phase

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and then once i hit phase 2 and his bleed resistance was higher i switched to star fists with cragblade and frost on, did some charge R2s to stagger him + frost him, couple extra hits and it was a win

rancid siren
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finally beat elden ring on rl1

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the only boss i have left is malenia rly

long nacelle
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Mogh doesn't get interrupted, so I find that you can make some mistakes against Malenia and attack at the wrong time, while Mogh will kill you on one mistake

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I'm not saying Malenia RL1 is easy, she isn't even on RL200
But like, I think you can make more mistakes with her than some other bosses

rancid siren
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i already did a run with the spiked caestus and i remember it being a real pain because of the moveset

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not rl1 for it ofc

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so i've opted for the uchigatana with unsheathe and i've had some success with it on my attempts so far

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i just need the clean run where she doesnt like

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do clone or waterfowl unexpectedly

rancid siren
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bleeding only got me so far in the fight so i just opted to use the star fists the moment the second phase began and i bled him so many times his resistance was too high to proc anymore while properly fighting him

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also helped that i used cragblade and got a charge r2 on him before he started attacking again in phase 2

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made it alot easier to stagger him and get more damage

rancid siren
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geez malenia is really bs

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she's got the easiest moveset in the whole game to play around but she's carried by fowl and the clone move

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i know how to avoid them

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but she can literally just spam them one after another and if im trying to punish her at all, she can just do it at me and because im recovering, im dead

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i'd rather fight like, 10 Bed of Chaoses in a row because atleast with that boss there's a way to get around the bs

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malenia just sucks to fight

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feels so artificially difficult

solemn shell
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i find waterfowl like one of the easiest attacks to avoid

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its her basic attacks that are difficult

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just cause of the sheer number of them

rancid siren
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it helps if you're light rolling

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your roll goes so far you get out most of her attack strings with one roll

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my main gripe with her is like

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i'll fight her in phase 2 and im thinking "okay, first hit in the phase, let's get her" and then as im going for my second she instantly fowls in response

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she's just horribly inconsistent

languid axle
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Just started elden ring and I gotta ask

||Is Margit purposely designed to be a huge pain in the ass early on, or do I just suck? I beat him but he was kicking my ass alot||

willow valley
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Yeah

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He's there to drive the player to go and explore

languid axle
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Oh OK cool

willow valley
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Get stronger, find the cool stuff off the beaten path

languid axle
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Cause I beat him, but it took a while SOLKEKW

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I had 1500 runes in that boss arena, and by God I wasn't about to just let those poof into non existence

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Also through the power of me dicking around I got the guts sword

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Sadly I invested into Vigor like a dumbass and don't have all the stuff needed to actually use it well

willow valley
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Investing into Vigor is important so that was probably the best thing you could've done ngl

languid axle
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Now I need 1 more level of str and 3 more levels of dex to use the thing well

willow valley
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You'll get them eventually

languid axle
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Yeah

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I might go kill shit by where I got the funny clang sword

willow valley
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You could also head to the south, there's some cool shit going on down there

languid axle
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South from Calelid, or south from limgrave?

willow valley
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Limgrave

languid axle
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Ah, some guy was talking about some fort thingy

willow valley
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The east portion is also pretty important if you haven't found the church there

languid axle
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I got the third church which had a portal to caelid

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To a big other church thingy with a big bear looking dude in it

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With a big chimera looking MFer guarding the place

willow valley
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Did you get the Physick flask inside it?

languid axle
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Ye

willow valley
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Good, that item is extremely important

languid axle
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Ok

willow valley
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But yeah, go to the far south of Limgrave

languid axle
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Yknow what

I might go get payback on that one horse armor guy dickhead right outside spawn

solemn shell
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and making a fight easier isnt very fun, i want it to be hard

rancid siren
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fair

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but my complaints did stem from my experience doing her on my rl1 run lmao

solemn shell
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thats fair

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my complaints will be much worse when i finish my no-hit run most likely

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well actually maybe not

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its similar but rl1 has less damage

rancid siren
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yeah

solemn shell
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but surely theres some small hits you can take in rl1

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im gonna need to dodge the ENTIRETY of waterfowl every time

rancid siren
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all i could think doing it was how amazing it'd be to have 60 vigor, and 60 faith for my flame art unsheathe uchigatana

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and just tank everything and have all the damage

rancid siren
solemn shell
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nope

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not doing that

rancid siren
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the proc instantly knocks her out of fowl (though you can only do it twice in any attempt)

solemn shell
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too easy

rancid siren
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rip

solemn shell
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the point of the run is to learn movesets

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not to find workarounds

rancid siren
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i mean it's still a game mechanic

solemn shell
solemn shell
rancid siren
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rip

solemn shell
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spirit ashes are a game mechanic and im not using them for the run

rancid siren
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good luck on that then

solemn shell
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whenever i end up actually doing it

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it might be a while before i get unburnt out from elden ring

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and im probably gonna finish the dlc before anything else once that happens

rancid siren
solemn shell
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i dont like 60 vig

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im keeping my 40 vig if i dont go to dlc

languid axle
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||Godrick is a little piss piss boi

He's so easy compared to margit||

willow valley
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Yeah

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That's kind of the point

restive frost
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||literally the weakest of all the golden lineage to the point that everyone at some point has actively either insulted him or beat his ass||

languid axle
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I have upgraded the funny clang sword

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It's crazy how actually meeting the requirements to use it makes it so much better

willow valley
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You were using it without meeting the requirements

languid axle
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Yes

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I went from not doing a lot of damage to one shotting enemies

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It's beautiful

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Also the wondrous physic thingy ma bobber is really good cause I got one that buffs charged attack dmg and increases stamina

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Out side the ||godrick|| arena I've been grinding enemies to dunk on and I get about 2k runes in like, 2 ish minutes

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||one of the enemies is a giant who gets staggered in 2 art of war charged uppercuts and he alone is 1.2k runes, though I also like bum rushing the jars near there for the mats they drop to sell later||

willow valley
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It's an okay set-up

solemn shell
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you know you dont really have to spoiler tag

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it doesnt hurt ofc

languid axle
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I grinded there a bit and I think I'll grind a bit more to get 15 endure

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Later

solemn shell
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but most if not all of the people in this channel probably already got spoiled or already played the game

willow valley
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Yeah

languid axle
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Ok

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Also I gotta go activate godricks great rune cause according to my coworkers his is pretty good

willow valley
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Yeah, it's one of the best Great Runes

languid axle
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Ok sweet

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I'm sitting at a nice 30 str which is cool

I could dump one more level in to 1 hand the thing, but I like my 1.5x multiplier anyway

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Also I dumped bozos remembrance for runes cause I don't really wanna associate with him at all by using any of his gear, I'd rather just roll with the extra xp

willow valley
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That's fair

languid axle
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Although the dragon arm dis look neat I guess

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The dexterity req tho looks less neat

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Does ded even do anything for you statwise?

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Like aside from reqs

willow valley
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Dex? It very minimally speeds up your spell casts

solemn shell
#

damage for dex scaling weapons

languid axle
#

I see

vital schooner
long nacelle
#

I am feeling DUMB and BLIND
I just spent 1 fucking hour roaming around the Ruins of Rauh, searching for Devonia since I realized I hadn't killed her

I even had to face those weird spider scorpion things that make my arachnophobia and anxiety SPIKE

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And she is RIGHT BESIDES THE GRACE

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SHE WAS THERE ALL ALONG AND I IGNORED HER

languid axle
#

be me
get to nerd academy to give everyone there swirlies
two nerds on the front porch cast repeated spells at me to stop my advance
I flawlessly roll past their dorkasts
"Nice spells idiots, I cast heap of raw iron"
both nerds dead on the spot

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Then I proceeded to make a run through the crackhead den they have on campus and I fought their cracked out dog

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The dog was a funny fight cause I could 4 shot him, but he 2 shot me

willow valley
#

Pretty standard Raya Lucaria all in all seems like

languid axle
#

The "nice spells idiots" bit has got to be the funniest thing I've done in game yet

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Aside from me running past a whole horde of dragons in caelid tryna get the funny clang sword

willow valley
#

You mean the dogs?

languid axle
#

Well yes

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But I was dum dum

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And took the long way round

willow valley
#

From Dragonbarrow?

languid axle
#

So I had to run past multiple dragons

languid axle
willow valley
#

I see

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There's a really good rune farming spot near where you're warped too there btw

languid axle
#

I'm guessing that's where the mother dragon is?
My co workers were talking about that and how it drops 50k runes on death apparently

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And I want them runes

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I want money

#

Also smiting stones 2 to get my sword up to +6

willow valley
#

I mean that's one spot

languid axle
#

Also I beat up the tree sentinel near spawn as payback

willow valley
#

There also this grace near the bridge with the dragon on it, and there's like 5-6 little dudes who each drop like 1.5k runes per death really close to it

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It's an amazing farming spot

languid axle
#

Noted

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It'll prolly be really good with the clang sword cause I can cleave through em with one go

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Also I got a blood flame incantation I can't use Soldge

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How da hell do those work anyways

willow valley
#

Then level faith and arcane if you fo

languid axle
#

I have a urgent heal one and a pack of spirit dogs I can't really use and I'm confused as to why not

willow valley
willow valley
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The dogs you need a spirit calling bell

languid axle
#

OOOOOOH

willow valley
#

You can buy one

languid axle
#

My ass did not know that

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I am a foooo

willow valley
#

And there'll be an icon on screen when you're in an area where you can summon them

languid axle
#

I might lvl faith to get the blood flame infuse cause that seems really nice

willow valley
languid axle
#

After I get endurance up to 20

willow valley
#

Bloodflame is really strong, I definitely recommend it

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Iirc the buff has a pretty short duration unfortunately

languid axle
willow valley
#

Ah yes

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2016

languid axle
#

There's got to be a mod for that right?

willow valley
#

I don't know

languid axle
#

It'd be really funny

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Block?
CLANG
Hit wall?
CLANG
Hit noting but the Air?
CLANG

viscid cedar
#

landed a parry while online just now

willow valley
#

How did it feel?

quick cosmos
viscid cedar
willow valley
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Damn

viscid cedar
#

euphoria of it settled in after the duel

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which I lost😭

willow valley
#

Damn

viscid cedar
#

they invaded with a proper pvp build so they had knives

willow valley
#

Oh, did you get shanked at low health?

viscid cedar
#

yeah

willow valley
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Unfortunate

viscid cedar
#

we both had like a sliver of health

willow valley
#

Iirc you can get a charged attack after a critical attack, so if you had done a delayed one to catch their roll if they went for a panic roll at low health

viscid cedar
#

I tried to catch rolls but I failed

willow valley
#

Unfortunate

viscid cedar
#

I heard that rapiers in the offhand is a very good way to catch rolls in DS2(the duel was in DS2)

willow valley
#

Ah, I thought this was in Elden Ring

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Then I got no clue lmao

viscid cedar
#

every souls game has their own parry timings I feel like

willow valley
#

I believe they do

viscid cedar
#

I thought DS2 was a difficult game to use parries way back

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I haven't really experimented with parries in ER that much except like certain bosses

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its hard to make out which ones are parriable at times

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I still don't know if you can parry godrick or not

willow valley
#

I mean the spell parries are the goats

viscid cedar
#

ER is actually the goat of build variety

willow valley
#

True

viscid cedar
#

I still have so much builds I would want to try out

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but I can't because I usually play with 1 or 2 weapons per run

willow valley
#

Same

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I typically got one weapon I center NY build around and go from there

viscid cedar
#

I wish weapon arts were overall more useful on bosses

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godslayer ones' look cool and all but its pretty much worse than doing a jumping attack

willow valley
#

I you either got a tactical nuke in your back pocket or the dragon fist one

viscid cedar
#

dragon fist as in the one you get from godrick's remembrance?

willow valley
#

Yeah

pure valley
#

Godslayers are p good. The do a slight percentile tick

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Really nice on endgame and dlc bosses

long smelt
#

ive been using reduvia blood blade and the poison sword at the same time and its been pretty dope so far since i p much do almost constant dps in either the form of poison or the magic dagger strike from the blood blade

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and then when i actually get in i hit them with the poison sword to continue applying damage and the the poison keeps killing even when im dodging so its pretty fun

willow valley
solemn shell
#

reduvia is crazy

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that dagger really just does crazy damage and a bunch of bleed buildup

willow valley
#

Yeah, daggers in general are really strong, and the Reduvia is just one of those strong options

long nacelle
#

I feel the same about my Twinblades run
But like, Eleonora's poleblade at least deals INSANE stance dmg on that weapon art

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So less worse
But as someone who loves greatswords a bit too much...
Daggers felt so weird to me

willow valley
#

From my knowledge the Glintstone Kris and the Misericorde are arguably the best dagger combo in the game

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Glintstone Kris to rack up stance damage and posture breaks with Misericorde to capitalize

long nacelle
#

Ohhhhh
That looks cool af

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I was running Misericorde with a Buckler for the parries
LOL

willow valley
#

Lmao

long nacelle
#

I also have a sleep build with Misericorde
Super strong now with the new Dlc items

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I just love critical attacks
They feel so good

willow valley
#

Fr

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I don't really remember, there's a talisman that increases critical damage right?

long nacelle
#

Yup
Dagger Talisman

willow valley
#

Classic

long nacelle
#

I'm runing Ritual Sword, St Trina's Smile, Dagger Talisman and Dual Handed Talisman
So I sleep them, double hands on Misericorde, Royal Knight's Resolve and BAM

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Dopamine rush

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LMAO

willow valley
#

Understandable

long nacelle
#

But really, I miss my DS3 build sometimes...
Dark Zweihander on main hand
Electric Rapier on left hand, which surprisingly has a parry
40 int and faith for the pyromancies and dmg

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I had a lot of fun
Might try doing smt like it on ER

willow valley
#

Sounds like a fun build ngl

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Dunno what you're gonna have to replace dark with but I'm sure you'll be able to find something

long nacelle
#

Very versatile
The rapier hit smaller enemies and the zweihander deletes everything slow enough for it to hit

long nacelle
#

Actually, change
Cold Rapier for easier proc and Fire Art Zweihander for DAMAGE

willow valley
#

I know there's this one frost AoW that's really solid rn too

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Makes like a cloud of ice

long nacelle
#

Oh
It got buffed or smt?

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Or is it smt new in the DLC?
I haven't found everything yet

willow valley
#

I dunno

long nacelle
#

Kinda exploring on my own
Found the secret Twinblades today
Lol

willow valley
#

That's fair, I haven't been able to play for quite a while but I'm looking forward to being able to in the near future

thin vector
#

Finally got arcane to level 50
It was at 33 about an hour ago💀

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Now I guess I can use bleed weapons if I wanted lmao

long nacelle
thin vector
#

Yeah, I think more mind is the play

thin vector
#

I'm gonna lose it
(dlc spoilers)

solemn shell
#

thats found on a scarab near ranni's rise

willow valley
#

I think it is

trail oxide
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Do you guys have any tips on how to defeat the ||Leda fight with all the NPCs|| this fight is giving me so much trouble

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Like out of anyone in the dlc I'm ashamed to say that this is the fight I'm the most stuck on

restive frost
#

did you do ||ansbach and thiolliers|| questlines

trail oxide
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||ansbachs but not Thiolliers||

restive frost
#

||do you have a +10 mimic tear||

trail oxide
#

||yeah I've been using it but the problem is that they just ignore it and they all come after me 😭||

restive frost
#

thats so fucked 😭

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who alls after you?

trail oxide
#

||Leda, Dane, Freyja, and Moore (he's honestly the worst one I should've told him to stay sad)||

restive frost
#

ahhh yea, ||i told moore to get over it and that was probably the biggest mistake i couldve done. hes so much a fucking tank that it took what felt like a solid 5 minutes just killing him and him alone||

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my order of killing with ||ansbach, thiollier and my mimic at my side was least armored to most armored||

trail oxide
#

||I just kinda beat the shit out of Freyja before Moore shows up then I try to kill him until Leda and Dane decide that it's time to jump me||

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||this fight makes me feel like Mahito||

restive frost
#

what kind of build are you running?

trail oxide
#

Strength

restive frost
#

godspeed

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i dont really have a good idea on what to do with strength but ||the enhanced lion flip ash of war can help pancake people easily||

trail oxide
#

Oh yeah I forgot about that aow

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I'll try it out

#

Thanks FaustThumbsUp

restive frost
#

yuh, good luck and you got this

trail oxide
#

The aow I'm using RN also pancakes people but it's way too slow

restive frost
#

yeaaaah the ||enhanced flip|| is crazy fast

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plus you get ||two for the price of one aow|| so that helps to also catch any stragglers trying to come in after the first one

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||since you have ansbach, you can also try any greases you may have saved. messmer flame grease works pretty well||

trail oxide
#

Alright FaustThumbsUp

paper otter
# trail oxide Do you guys have any tips on how to defeat the ||Leda fight with all the NPCs|| ...

If you havent beat it, my best advice is this (note, I didnt use mimic so it will likely not be as awful)
||Spawn in and target Freyja until ansbach arrives. Those two will remain aggroed on each other for pretty much the whole fight. Gang her till the next member (i think moore) spawns. Basically, my strat was to pure target moore until dane shows up. Try and kill Freyja at this point so that ansbach takes the aggro of either moore or dane. From there, it really just comes down to finishing off moore asap, while just avoiding dane until Moore dies. From there just target dane so that all you have left is Leda who is a relative non-issue by that point.||

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Definitely a bs fight but between ur mimic and the other summon, you should be able to do it

solemn shell
#

me personally i only had to fight ||hornsent, dane, and leda||

#

still incredibly annoying and one of my least favorite fights in the game

restive frost
#

i like it a lot thematically, and the ost is killer, but yea on subsequent dlc attempts i did everything i could to cut down the numbers as much as possible LOL

#

having it only just be ||dane and leda|| is very funny

trail oxide
#

But agony

#

I want Ledas sword and armor so bad

restive frost
#

i would kill for her armor

|| ABASmug ||

solemn shell
trail oxide
#

I wanted to get Elden Ring on PC so me and my friend can do a co-op run. Does anyone know if he can still do it if he's banned from online play? I figured that he may be able to since it's a mod but idk.

rancid siren
#

it should work just fine because it doesn't connect to fromsoftware servers

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i think at most you have to be weary of easy-anticheat but i think the mod turns it off when using it anyway

vital schooner
vital schooner
#

eldenring patch coming

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dlc bosses getting nerfed i heard

quick cosmos
#

Again? Man they're going to get nerfed to hell before I can even get to the dlc

restive frost
#

theyre gonna fix ||rain of fire|| jesus christ its about time

viscid cedar
#

I can't wait for dipshits to complain about ||nerfed radahn again||

paper otter
trail oxide
quick cosmos
#

To top it off, I believe steam puts a date on when you've unlocked an achievement.

thin vector
#

Nowhere in this arena is safe from this dude

paper otter
#

I was just like "why the hell cant I dodge this???" and it was cuz I wasnt actually dodging the part I had to

thin vector
#

Yeah I can consistently dodge the pull in, but I missed it that time because I thought he would start phase 2 with the giant nuke aoe, like he always does, and it caught me off guard

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I feel like I could have a better time beating ||consort radahn|| if I wasn't on ng+3😅

paper otter
rancid siren
willow valley
#

Damn, the second video didn't show up

#

The glow up is insane though

long nacelle
#

I actually did it yesterday
Speedrun as fast as I could to Radahn and Mogh using a +10 Goslayer Greatsword

It still baffles me how easy it is to get +10 somber weapons in this game

#

Spent like 3h dying to Mogh due to lack of Vigor
I was Lv70 trying to fight him with barely enough stats to hold my weapon USING the Radagon Scarseal

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Then I got into the DLC, ran straight to the ||Rellana|| skip, into ||Bonny Village|| and then into ||Messmer's Keep via Chuch District||
This let me run past every enemy until I got both ||Fire Snake and Rain of Fire||
Killing that mf ||Salza|| was not easy tho, I had to cheese him with a greatshield and lots of Guard Counters
Scadu Level 0, RL 85 by then, still no Vigor
LMFAO

vital schooner
#

kai is going to be playing bloodborne next month and the copium online is hes such a big streamer it will cause a big enough buzz that sony will finally remake the game and launch on pc

woven hearth
#

kek

willow valley
#

@vast helm

willow valley
willow valley
paper otter
#

Damn that modded weapon is sick as hell

willow valley
#

There's so many incredible weapons in this mod, it's great

willow valley
#

@stray violet

thin vector
#

Finally beat him though
So happy

willow valley
willow valley
#

@alpine axle

willow valley
thin vector
willow valley
#

DS3 would never be on sale

restive frost
#

god in heaven dont tell me theyre doing the "never put souls on sale" thing again

vital schooner
willow valley
austere crow
#

I defeated CEO of Racism

willow valley
#

Nice

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What'd you think of him?

austere crow
willow valley
#

I think that's certainly one element of the fight, but I also think the other things are really subtle, and really hard to grasp as a new player, really glad you thought he was cool though, because genuinely he is such a sick boss

woven hearth
#

i think when he does that attack the loses health

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had no idea it could die from it

solemn shell
austere crow
solemn shell
#

how is he the ceo of racism

#

hes more of the ceo of being targeted by racism

willow valley
#

Individuals subject to racism can still be turbo racist Sloth

austere crow
willow valley
#

Claws are always really dope in From Software games, and there's some really cool stuff you can do with Elden Rings claws

upper bane
#

What would you rate ?

willow valley
#

It's an alright build

upper bane
willow valley
#

What weapon are you using?

upper bane
#

Ludwig and Blade of Mercy

willow valley
#

Okay, well I'd choose one of those weapons and use primarily that for however much longer you want to play the game for and just stick with leveling it's primary damage stat, and maybe invest some time into chalice dungeons to get some better blood gems

upper bane
#

Thanks for the advice cheers

pure valley
#

with dual damage weapons its best to farm for the generic blood gems too

vital schooner
#

the strat is just double great swords

long smelt
#

i was using the spear gun i should go back to bloodborne i stopped at old yarnham last time i played

willow valley
#

I kinda wanna do a run with blades of mercy ngl

pure valley
#

Is a fun run

willow valley
viscid cedar
#

does DS2 not have cloud saves?

willow valley
#

The Final Battle ||remix|| in the ||Shrine Maiden Village|| is so incredible man

vital schooner
proven veldt
#

Messmer is so cool

#

I’m fighting him RL1 with ungodly amounts of restrictions currently

paper otter
#

sounds like a blast

willow valley
#

I kinda wanna do a Fire Knight cosplay run

willow valley
#

Why is this Heavy Thrusting Sword so god damn massive

#

I swear to god this thing is larger than some Great Spears

woven hearth
#

behold, the Elon musk build

#

now melee

vital schooner
#

too much intelligence for an elon musk build

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then as far as im aware you can only have 1 summon at a time. for a musk build you need at least 5 other people doing all the work for you

woven hearth
#

have you seen the screenshot?

vital schooner
#

i dont get it

solemn shell
#

thats a screenshot from elon musk's twitter

#

thats why its called the elon musk build

willow valley
vital schooner
wise ingot
#

majula on vinyl...

restive frost
#

ok now put them back on spotify

solemn shell
#

having ds3 on vinyl would be sick

viscid cedar
viscid cedar
long nacelle
#

Ok, this might seem stupid
But I just realized turning off the Ray Tracing on PS5 makes the DLC Last Boss fight MUCH easier
Not so many FPS drops

willow valley
#

Yeah, Ray tracing is really intense so that makes sense

long nacelle
#

Second Phase is just HELL with that on
It's my third time killing him, but like, it's SO MUCH EASIER when shit's not laggy

willow valley
#

I can imagine

willow valley
viscid cedar
swift raptorBOT
rose oracle
#

so armored core is gonna have some episode on a show i guess?

#

idk what it was but i guess more lore later

vital schooner
# rose oracle https://fxtwitter.com/armoredcore/status/1825978617781723177

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLihxsmI_OU if you know what love death and robots on netflix was it makes more sense. it was an anthology where different studios would do one episode of w/e they want within a theme and they had some banger ass episodes

SECRET LEVEL is a new adult-animated anthology series featuring original stories set within the worlds of some of the most beloved video games. From the creative minds behind LOVE, DEATH + ROBOTS, each of the 15 episodes is a celebration of games and gamers. Games that inspired the 15 epic stories include Armored Core, Concord, Crossfire, Dungeo...

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this is going to be the same but they are all video game episodes

vital schooner
pure valley
swift raptorBOT
# pure valley https://www.reddit.com/r/BloodbornePC/s/RCYKQcjdLi
rxddit.com

With a little bit of hacking, turtle was able to get in game in Bloodbone Regular and uploaded the build to Github. I just played it and ofc the game is not yet playable because of lags(too much lags) and also some shader issues, but they will be fixed soon. How much time do YOU think bloodborne will take to be playable.(at least better than Cyb...

pure valley
#

It's booting and "playable"

solemn shell
#

that is actually insane

#

you cant just casually drop a single episode of spelunky

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or sifu

#

the sifu episode is gonna go hard though

willow valley
#

Singular Armored Core episode

solemn shell
#

true

#

i wonder how much of these are gonna be like

#

necessary to play the game

#

or at least know some of the lore

willow valley
#

I mean AC6 tells you all the lore

solemn shell
#

i could see armored core being kinda like that

solemn shell
vital schooner
#

prob be in the same vain of love death and robots

solemn shell
#

i never saw that

#

but it seems like a cool idea

vital schooner
#

id recommend it. some absolute bangers in there

viscid cedar
viscid cedar
#

it looks better than I hoped for

long smelt
#

I'm bout to go back to playing bloodborne

#

Perfect time of year to try to finish it methinks

solemn shell
#

i dont wanna use it to level cause that feels cheap

#

so i use it to make the healing no longer consumable

viscid cedar
willow valley
#

Yes

viscid cedar
#

I already killed her

solemn shell
#

i would stab her tail 200 times and bleed her to death

long smelt
#

No I ran away like a bitch

vital schooner
willow valley
#

Armored Peak VI has hit it's one year anniversary

pure valley
long smelt
#

.....thats crazy

long smelt
#

Stellar blade is so goddamn fun

#

Haven't had combat this good since sekiro

eager gyro
#

peak incoming

willow valley
#

They're so sick

eager gyro
#

peak for 10-15 dollars

willow valley
#

Peak at an affordable price?

eager gyro
#

splendid

paper otter
#

Finally getting around to finishing that game

willow valley
#

Hell yeah

paper otter
#

Only took an eternity loll

willow valley
#

We'll get that co-op mod run eventually

paper otter
#

Dual shotguns my beloved

#

So far I’m just running a build entirely around speed and stance killing. Plasma missles from afar to help maintain high buildup, then hit and run tactics with point blank shotguns

willow valley
#

Based

solemn shell
paper otter
#

Movement in ac 6 is so satisfying good lord. Only moments it’s not are when I accidentally assault dash

#

And that’s a total skill issue

vital schooner
#

Truly the worst timeline

restive frost
#

NO...

rancid siren
#

it's always something new with this fuckin game

languid axle
#

Is that task failed successfully on your part, or the enemy's?

rancid siren
#

it's dark souls 1 being dark souls 1

#

he did a lil RP walk, did this sick ass jump attack which somehow backstabbed me from the side and died. i should just stop playing and let him link the first flame

languid axle
#

I see

restive frost
#

ds1 is a fucking gem

#

genuinely the comedy game of all time

rancid siren
#

i wish discord clipped this properly because the scream i did would've made the perfect clip

languid axle
#

Hell it could prolly have worked as a "perfectly cut scream" thing

solemn shell
viscid cedar
#

man I hope the shadps4 getting buzz online doesn't end them up facing an cease and desist from Sony

#

those types of thing almost always happen when a website or a emulator gets too much popular for its own good

willow valley
#

Yeah

paper otter
#

I grabbed the Shadps4 version ahead of time in case of that. I’m gonna try and snag it on day one if possible. Anything to finally try bloodborne

vital schooner
proven veldt
#

Pls let it be so

#

I want BB on PC

willow valley
#

The emulators have come far

proven veldt
upper bane
#

I decided to get this. Fuck Chalice Dungeons

pure valley
#

Defiled watchdog is so fun

willow valley
willow valley
#

Alas, peak is returned

thin vector
#

Just got armored core 6

#

I hope it plays as good as it looks

willow valley
#

It's Armored Peak for a reason

pure valley
#

Ac6 is probably froms best story imo

vital schooner
#

is it though

#

its just radio chatter

pure valley
#

Is dark souls not item descriptions

vital schooner
#

dark souls story is the friends we made along the way

#

and vaati

willow valley
#

The Armored Core was the bitch ass Iguana we killed three times along the way

vital schooner
#

im glad the game is a game and people enjoyed it but man, did i hate it. i never thought id not have even a little bit of fun in a fromsoft game

#

just wasnt for me

rancid siren
#

i loved it because it was basically a ps2 era game made for current gen consoles

thin vector
#

Only did one mission so far and I agree it's peak
Especially since I can make my robot look like an evangelion

vital schooner
#

new balance patch dropping soon

restive frost
#

they buffed the twin moon spell 🥺

willow valley
#

The anti-tarnished slash is now rollable

#

You love to see it

woven hearth
#

they also removed clones(?

vital schooner
willow valley
#

We should kill that guy

#

With hammers

restive frost
#

what 15 years of soulslike discourse does to a guy

solemn shell
#

we should force that guy to play RL1 no upgrades

willow valley
#

True and real

willow valley
paper otter
#

I can’t just not get the Elden Ring gummy

willow valley
#

If only it was real

solemn shell
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WHY ISNT IT REAL

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cowards

thin vector
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On my winning attempt I did first phase hitless too

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I love the mohg fight so much
Gotta be one of my top 3 bosses in the game

solemn shell
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amen brother

thin vector
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Parrying in this game feels so clean when it actually works

solemn shell
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that reminds me i still need to no-hit the dlc

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oh crap actually i need to beat the dlc at all

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i heard the final boss got nerfed so that should make it easier

pure valley
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Final boss got nerfed?

restive frost
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yes

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hes not as aggresive and he doesnt nuke your systems frames now

willow valley
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You also can roll the anti-tarnished slash

restive frost
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i havent gotten to him post-nerf yet but that alone already justifies the change to me

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that shit was annoying as hell originally

solemn shell
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of course the day i finally decide to play ac6 again, i have no internet

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i want to do internet stuff in ac6

paper otter
vital schooner
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Testing the patience of bloodborne fans

solemn shell
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why does patience matter

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we're not getting bloodborne port

vital schooner
solemn shell
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wow i would not expect him to only be 50

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my dad is significantly older than miyazaki

willow valley
solemn shell
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finally got to play AC6 again, first thing i did was absolutely destroy balteus (3 attempts)

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i remember this fight being extremely difficult my first time, so idk if im just better at the game despite it being a very long time since i first played it, or if i just had better stuff for the fight

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i need to find some crates

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are there any in chapter 1

solemn shell
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YEAHH I UNLOCKED THE STUN BATON

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i love this thing so much

rancid siren
solemn shell
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i did first play around release

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so thats likely it

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i think i also had the same setup that i won with

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well a little bit different so it might have been better or around the same effectiveness

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basically i just remembered that using a energy weapon was really good the last time

willow valley
vital schooner
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Sekiro is too easy and parry should have had a longer cooldown

solemn shell
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play charmless

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charmless + demon bell

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makes it a lot harder

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and if that still isnt enough play resurrections mod

woven hearth
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you increase cooldown you gotta rebalance everything

mild pendant
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Are you talking about deflecting?

vital schooner
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is not a parry a deflection

mild pendant
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Kinda

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There's a perfect one and a normal one

vital schooner
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w/e you wanna call the mechanic that you can just spam and the only bad thing that happens is you dont get a perfect parry

mild pendant
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You take chip damage

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Also posture build up

vital schooner
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should be more

sterile forge
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your not far into the game are you

mild pendant
vital schooner
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ive beaten it 3 times

sterile forge
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ok parry spam losses as soon as you fight genichiro the frist time

mild pendant
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Get rid of the charm

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You take 30% damage instead of like

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2%

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On a normal parry

rancid siren
vital schooner
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its super easy period

rancid siren
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i'd say if there's ever a sequel they should make the bosses more similar to the buffed up ones in the boss rush modes in difficulty

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my biggest gripe with the game isnt the difficulty but instead that you have all these abilities you can get and you're probably using about 10% of them in fights

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also the whole prosthetic upgrade tree sucks ass

long smelt
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every soulsborne is super easy

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every single one of them is a pure knowledge check and i find it weird to pretend any of them are particularly more or less difficult than the others because its just an experience knowledge check game series

rancid siren
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i think later souls games at minimum lean more towards actually practicing against bosses as opposed to dark souls 1/2 and demons souls where it's basically as simple as making a build that wins

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though elden ring has it's fair share of cheesey builds nonetheless

solemn shell
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idk how anyone can call it easy

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ive beaten it like 6 times and i still struggle a fair amount

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i mean if you use umbrella its easy

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umbrella is just cheesy

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i think some fights are made too easy with prosthetics and other fights you can use prosthetics in cool ways that dont make it that much easier

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prosthetics are a cool addition you just kinda have to force yourself to use them

rancid siren
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some people are just better at specific stuff than others

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obviously it's not a competition and finding sekiro piss easy doesnt make you like, a better person or whatever

solemn shell
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im convinced this ac6 mission just never says you're done collecting battle logs

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theres an infinite amount of them

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oh finally i did it

wise ingot
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ive never seen someone have worse takes about from games than compound

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im sorry but its true

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if you want actual punishment for blocking something, go demon bell or charmless

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i was fighting ssi charmless yesterday and i was taking half of my (almost maxed) health from blocking a single attack

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this is not getting into the fact that you'll be at full posture for most of the fight in later bosses, meaning if you block anything you get posture broken and die.

sterile forge
wise ingot
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yeah no im well aware there's worse takes

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i just dont see them

solemn shell
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dont ask me my opinion on ds1

sterile forge
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that actually makes me wonder what everyones hot takes are from soft. i have an interesting one since people seem to make it into 2 hot takes

solemn shell
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i just really hate ds1

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i think every single boss in that game is just not a good boss

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including the dlc ones, though they are still the best bosses in the game

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really close to being good, the only change they need is being in a better game tbh lol

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artorias in ds3 would be a much better boss than artorias in ds1

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i dont know how much of a hot take this is tho, ive seen plenty of other people who hate ds1

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its just a somewhat unpopular take at least

sterile forge
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mohge is inherently poorly designed, needing to get the crystal is dumb as fuck and the fight would be better off if that was removed. my actual hot take this is indicative of souls design and the only reason from soft gets away with this kind of archaic adventure game design do it not because game good but because people wont take time to differentiate between difficut and activly antiplayer.

sterile forge
sterile forge
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in fact i think that is the majority opinion

solemn shell
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i agree that its bad design for sure

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i think everybody does

sterile forge
solemn shell
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mohg isnt stupid its just that one mechanic

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i no-hitted him and i just decided to ignore the damage from it for the sake of having a fun challenge instead of melting him before the move

sterile forge
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and that mechanic requires you to do one of 4 things

  1. rebirth to get enough health
  2. look up where the item is
  3. look up where all the estus are
  4. get really good/lucky
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non of these are fun things to do

willow valley
rancid siren
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the map's just way too big for it's own good and they could've cut alot of it down

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on a first playthrough it's amazing because every new location could be a game changing discovery

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new weapons, spells, key items, etc

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any other playthrough though, travelling around the whole map picking up every golden seed, every tear, every smithing stone, the weapons you need, the spells you need, and everything else is just a massive pain in the ass

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the dlc isnt so bad because the map is smaller and denser so you arent just endlessly riding torrent

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and you dont need nearly as many items

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so maybe my hot take for souls games is that the next souls game should just not be open world at all

solemn shell
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yeah this is true

solemn shell
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i do agree that the dlc was a lot better

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ds3 used to be my favorite but i think the dlc bumped elden ring up to the favorite spot

woven hearth
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itt was better, yes, but there was still a lot of wasted space

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see, for example, cerulean coast and charo´s(? hidden grave

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there´s nothing there

solemn shell
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though

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those are just really cool areas

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visually

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thats genuinely enough for me

woven hearth
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sure

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i can see that

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still

solemn shell
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you have a point yes

woven hearth
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its a really pretty place

solemn shell
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its still better than base game though

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lots more areas are just kinda nothing

woven hearth
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and it would have been cool fighting a cool boss there

solemn shell
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i mean theres putrescent knight

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and theres a tibia mariner THAT SUMMONS A ROYAL REVENANT

woven hearth
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😔

solemn shell
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i remember when he did that i was just like WHAT IM GETTING OUT OF HERE

rancid siren
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i guarantee there'll be alot of crying online if they make the next souls game not open world

solemn shell
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well yeah thats kinda true actually

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elden ring brought a lot of new players to the series

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honestly i just hope the next game isnt souls

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like

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give me an even bigger departure from the normal formula

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but not another armored core game though that would be awesome

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give me something NEW

willow valley
solemn shell
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actually yeah i think i remember someone saying they're not gonna make a game this big for a long while

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miyazaki perhaps

rancid siren
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it's gamers we're talkin about

willow valley
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True

solemn shell
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well yeah for sure

willow valley
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Gamers do hate video games

solemn shell
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i hate video games that i hate and i hate video games that i love

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except for outer wilds i love outer wilds!

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there isnt a single drop of hate in my heart for my love outer wilds

rancid siren
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just ignore the internet forever and ever and never let other people's opinions even come near you

vital schooner
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i do

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screw that feldspar guy

rancid siren
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:)

vital schooner
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massive dumbass

solemn shell
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i love fledspar

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as long as you dont spoil the game for people who havent played it, i dont care what you say about the game

rancid siren