New ||Raven|| fight is fucking dope
#From Software
willow valley
willow valley
I guess, but I enjoy the purpose it serves the narrative
inner knoll
||you arrive at a war torn area with corpses on both sides and all you see is a lone AC, before you tap into their feed and learn from their Handler that he is the real Raven||
that was an excellent twist imo
willow valley
You literally just show up to a scrapped PCA field, there's no corpses anywhere unless you count the ships
inner knoll
eh, fair i guess, i don't remember that clearly
but that shot of Raven looks so cool
willow valley
True
inner knoll
it's simple but it's so nice
willow valley
inner knoll
yeah, when you lock onto an enemy, you don't see it, but it does actually activate
inner knoll
ye
been debating on changing my head and chest piece ngl
but there aren't a lot of RaD related parts tbh
i thought about changing the head piece to the thing that Brute has, cuz it's said that it was optimized for construction and demolition but eh
i couldn't find any Core that would fot well besides the one that's part of the Wrecker set
but i don't feel like cosplaying Brute of all characters
willow valley
I mean, if you enjoy the fit
inner knoll
it's decent, but i prefer the chunkier and more angular Dafeng Core
second best AP in the game iirc
for cores
willow valley
Just run fashion core fr fr
inner knoll
yeah i'm trying lol
gonna try out some stuff i thought of, hang on
MAIN SYSTEM: activating Fashion Mode
inner knoll
yeye
oh shit, the game is updating, huh-
patch 1.03
lol
oh yea, dropped the zimmerman for the Sweet Sixteen
cuz of the RaD roleplay
inner knoll
Just run fashion core fr fr
meh
third pic looks pretty goofy to me
i kinda prefer the flat head, it just feels right
kind of just imagining a character with a similar fate to 621
someone who got stuck in debt and has to pay off his debt by undergoing surgery and performing various tasks as an AC
his employers barely bothered to give him proper parts
the blue base prolly belonged to someone else
inner knoll
tempted to name the pilot "Crusty" Shawn, but a similar name has already been taken lmao
oh yeah, i also noticed you can still kick enemies even after the mission ends lmao
inner knoll
hm
do i need to maybe replay all missions and get a ranking on them for the ||Stargazer|| achievement?
cuz guides aren't very helpful, they don't even mention the alt missions
WAIT
I know what I'm missing
onfg
||Intercept the Redguns||
my god
inner knoll
inner knoll
man
there's gotta be a way to beat ||Ayre|| without switching to tanktreads or double joints
it worked on literally everything else except for two of the final bosses
inner knoll
i kinda prefer the flat head, it just feels right
.
inner knoll
fair
rancid siren
that was reverse joint
inner knoll
the shield is kinda annoying, so maybe i should try out the anti-shield bubble rifle thingy
rancid siren
but i do remember hardly jumping initially on that fight besides her fly in melee attacks
inner knoll
i usually just fast fall if i'm in the air
not touching any movement keys will have you drop at your full weight
i've got a really good generator made specifically for heavy ACs
my kinetic build just doesn't seem to work, if that's truly the problem
inner knoll
yeah, may just switch to dual bubble rifle and then cannons for DPS
rancid siren
but || balteus || relies more on staying close to power through the barrages, while || ayre ||relies more on like
mid range pressure
with looking for those big punishes
inner knoll
(spoilers btw)
idk how many here are still thinking of buying the game or have not finished lmao
rancid siren
ye
i'd just say the fight is just more about learning the patterns than most other bosses in the game
because alot of the larger moves in the fight come out at specific points of health
inner knoll
maybe it's just that my fatass is slowing me down lol
rancid siren
could be
inner knoll
i do know most of the attacks, but still don't have strategies for my specific loadout
just wanna beat it with something personal, rather than what some guide with 2K subscribers recommended me, ya know 
rancid siren
I get it
inner knoll
i think i'll just switch out some weapons later, rn i'm a tad tired
rancid siren
My best tip for this fight if you want to read it is || when she does he melee attacks, you are better of dodging into her so you can swirl past her like you're playing dark souls 2 and if she does those big multi melee hologram things attacks, flying directly up I think just fucks up her tracking ||
inner knoll
yeah i managed to figure those out lol
||i try and weave around her sword swings, but it also kinda depends on which hand she's summoning her blade on||
so i could still get hit
eh, i should do S ranks first instead
i'm really close to get all of the achievements
inner knoll
o?
rancid siren
Gimme a sec
Im just adjusting and testing some stuff
Okay yeah
In a min I'll post a screenshot of the build
basically first half you use bubble gun
second half you pepper and build stagger with the missile launcher on your right shoulder and switch back to bubble gun while it reloads
when you do get stagger you go for the lance, grenade launcher combo
last wing
Oh yeah? Watcha running?
inner knoll
alternate universe where my lad gets fixed up and joins the redguns idk lol
also yes, i made that emblem
spent way too long on it lol
inner knoll
alright, i'll see what i can do
welp
turns out the answer will always be dual zimmerman
and also dual scatter bazooka i guess lol
managed to S rank the fight
inner knoll
wip of 621 humanized cuz i don't have the patience to draw mechs rn lol
willow valley
I don't think 621 has hair I'm not gonna lie
inner knoll
all we've seen is a bag with a body in it tbh
but maybe short or no hair would look better idk
willow valley
I always thought of 621 as more soup than human
inner knoll
idk, i still see a vague human shape in there, in the story trailer
rancid siren
i always imagine 621 as a more of some surgically altered human, probably bald and sickly but basically human
inner knoll
some folks drew them as a deformed-ish human or with a purposefully obscured face
rancid siren
i always imagine 621 as a more of some surgically altered human, probably bald a...
mostly because walter does talk of off-screen conversations as if you do it normally with him
inner knoll
rancid siren
and some other AC pilots describe their regular life so i dont really imagine 621 as hooked up to machines constantly or totally shut off from everything else
rancid siren
yeah something of a mix of these first two images
willow valley
I actually think that first depiction is amazing
rancid siren
yeah
willow valley
alternatively
Real
rancid siren
idk it takes away from the cool factor if your pilot is just a surgically augmented husk of a person
willow valley
I mean, it's more that they're a husk because of the augmentation
inner knoll
only hint of you being severely damaged is when walter says "Enough money for a person with a fried brain like you to buy your life back"
rancid siren
only hint of you being severely damaged is when walter says "Enough money for a ...
yeah i can imagine 621 having brain damage in some way
explains the muteness
inner knoll
iguazu also is implied to have taken it rough with his own fourth gen augmentation, according to his arena description
willow valley
I mean
rancid siren
or atleast selective muteness
inner knoll
explains the muteness
the wiki says it's a side effect of the augmentation yeah
showing a lack of emotion and partial muteness
rancid siren
im glad they dont show humans too much in this game
inner knoll
there was a manga with a similar protagonist, except she's nowhere near in as shit of a condition as 621 potentially is
inner knoll
im glad they dont show humans too much in this game
it's pretty cool, it lets us imagine what the pilots would be like
rancid siren
yee
inner knoll
i might draw some of the others and how i imagined them in my run
willow valley
I mean, I think the fact that 621 could just get in a different mech despite what was showed to us in the story trailer was really weird
inner knoll
i mean, we've seen at least two characters transfer their consciousness into different mechs
so it's not unique to 621
willow valley
Yeah, but how did he do it
pure valley
AC6 has been acquired
inner knoll
Yeah, but how did he do it
plot convenience idfk lol
inner knoll
AC6 has been acquired
oh shit
have fun :)
rancid siren
AC6 has been acquired
hope you enjoy it!
willow valley
plot convenience idfk lol
Was probably ||Ayre|| I could see her fangling something out
willow valley
AC6 has been acquired
inner knoll
plot convenience idfk lol
||the rubicon liberation front ain't exactly making toys out there and Iguazu could've simply made a deal after finally letting allmind in||
and data transfer shouldn't be that hard in the AC universe
||Rusty doesn't get destroyed in your encounter with him, he is still well enough to escape and reassemble||
willow valley
Yeah, but I don't think he's in the same situation as 621
rancid siren
|| a good few ac pilots in the game eject from their acs after they lose to you ||
rancid siren
|| i think 621 just recovers from whatever happened to them over the course of the game ||
inner knoll
where do they get the repairs from what needs to be cut from their pay at the end of a mission-
are autonomous repair bots just running on cash at their garage like in tf2 lmao
willow valley
Who knows
inner knoll
lotsa things we just don't end up questioning cuz it's a videogame
there's a parts shop for convenience, but who's the seller? where is the shop located?
why is the seller okay with 621 selling their shit back to them full price-
inner knoll
Was probably ||Ayre|| I could see her fangling something out
why her specifically?
oh you mean for 621
willow valley
why is the seller okay with 621 selling their shit back to them full price-
621 is amazing at haggling
inner knoll
lmao
inner knoll
oh you mean for 621
||you could do that shit before you made contact with her||
me fr
inner knoll
bless this man
pure valley
helicopter is ded
willow valley
Fr
pure valley
took a little longer than i wouldve liked
but once i learned to dodge his cannon i was golden
pure valley
incredible they have baltaeus, a great boss, then a literal and figurative piece of garbage
willow valley
Fr
solemn shell
is that warzone
pure valley
hand guns seem very op in ac6
trail oxide
i beat them in zero tries
willow valley
I beat the godskin duo first try without sleep pots what the fuck
Me literally every run after my first ||good on you though||
solemn shell
yeah jokes aside good job
trail oxide
Me literally every run after my first ||good on you though||
This is my first run still 
solemn shell
i cannot say ive done that before
other than the modded run but convergence has some great crowd control tools
willow valley
This is my first run still <:StupidFuckingAngelDog:1093351797030146149>
Yeah, why'd you think I complimented you
trail oxide
Yeah, why'd you think I complimented you
willow valley
Iron Key skip
solemn shell
ds2 got some awesome skips
and heavy metal riffs are the perfect thing to accompany this one
willow valley
Parrywalking is on par with how broken zips are for speedruns
solemn shell
parrywalking is so cool
i love how you can build momentum and then let it all go and zoom past some bosses
willow valley
Fr
solemn shell
im trying to think of tech from another game to compare it to
because its just a versatile tool that a lot of other tech is built off of
vital schooner
fromsoft games would be cool speedruns if the pc versions wernt so annoying
solemn shell
probably some sort of botw tech
willow valley
Like I said, Parrywalking and zips are the only two remotely comparable broken movement techs in From Soft games
solemn shell
zip is a good one but im trying to think of a different one
willow valley
Even then I'd consider zips to be downright the single most broken thing in any video game ever
vital schooner
ocarina of time had you literally inputting code in the speedrun, didnt it
yea ACE a couple n64 games have it
willow valley
ocarina of time had you literally inputting code in the speedrun, didnt it
Yeah, but what else lets you skip 99% of content in a game and lets you instakill the 1% you can't
On an unrelated note, what a boss
vital schooner
i mean thats what the unrestricted oot does
willow valley
Can y'all believe that Zips were allowed in NMG?
vital schooner
thats the stupidest sentence ive read all year
solemn shell
Yeah, but what else lets you skip 99% of content in a game and lets you instakil...
a lot of games do have out of bounds glitches that skip lots of stuff
its normally not quite so easy to do though
willow valley
That's what I thought too, "There's no way this shit is allowed in No Major Glitches"
vital schooner
the fromsoft speedrunning community is the dumbest speedrunning community ive ever been apart of
solemn shell
i dont want to speedrun a fromsoft game ever
vital schooner
it was so toxic i left it after trying to talk sekiro speedrun categories
willow valley
i dont want to speedrun a fromsoft game ever
Me neither
vital schooner
its like one of the biggest communities and everyone hangs out in the discord and everyone has an opinion on how the runs should be done...yet only 2% of the people are actual runners
willow valley
I do enjoy challenge runs though
solemn shell
hollow knight is one of the only games ill speedrun
solemn shell
thats better than mine
willow valley
I got the achievement, that was good enough for me
solemn shell
iirc 51 minutes is my record
solemn shell
I got the achievement, that was good enough for me
oh idc about beating other people's times, i just have a lot of fun doing the tech and stuff
willow valley
Also, y'all remember that Mega Zip that was going around near the start of when Elden Ring Speedrunning blew up?
vital schooner
i lied
solemn shell
Also, y'all remember that Mega Zip that was going around near the start of when ...
i seem to remember the term mega zip yeah
willow valley
Yeah, so that was actually disproven, and anyone trying to submit a run using it was disqualified from the leaderboards
vital schooner
so my knowledge of the run is prob outdated cuz i havnt messed around or seen a run for like 4 years but i think the best fromsoft speedrun was bloodborne all bosses
solemn shell
ive done better since then, but i dont care about the leaderboard now that i have a sub hour run on there
willow valley
so my knowledge of the run is prob outdated cuz i havnt messed around or seen a ...
That's one of the hardest too
solemn shell
how so
vital schooner
it depends what you mean by hard
cuz the route wasnt bad
but learning to kill the bosses fast took a lot of time to learn
willow valley
Yeah
vital schooner
it took me 3 days at 5-8 hours a day before i was able to kill shadows with speedrun strats
willow valley
Limited resources, low stats, a good number of mandatory bosses, high reset times
vital schooner
once
solemn shell
it took me 3 days at 5-8 hours a day before i was able to kill shadows with spee...
me with watcher knights
vital schooner
thats why i hated the ds3 speedrun, i dont find the tank camera glitch fun or interesting, making bosses just stand there and do nothing, and quit outs for every single door
willow valley
DS3 isn't a great speedrun game, yeah
solemn shell
yeah i wouldnt want to just exploit my way through all the bosses in a speedrun
vital schooner
the last one wouldnt be so bad if there wasnt a million doors
solemn shell
i want to actually learn hwo to fight the boss perfectly and fast
willow valley
I actually got into Ghostrunner level speedrunning for a time, that was really fun
solemn shell
oh man ghostrunner is such a fun game
vital schooner
you know i dont think ive ever watch a ds2 run now that i think about it. i remember some weird glitch with the bow that would unlock the zoomies
solemn shell
i doubt i used like actual strats, but i got the best time and the best deaths on all those levels
vital schooner
speedrunning takes such a commitment i promised myself i wouldnt fool myself into speedrunnign again unless i have a friend to do with or silksong
willow valley
I really only do challenge runs myself after getting a taste of it with Ghostrunner
pure valley
Am i doing something wrong in AC6? i feel like i havent changed any AC parts since the end of act 1
willow valley
That's not wrong if that's what you find fun
Also, a lot of frame parts are just really good for the entire game
willow valley
but like my thrusters are from super early
New parts aren't guaranteed to be better, they're just new
Some might fit a niche in you build better than other, but that doesn't make them inherently better at all
vital schooner
i changed so many parts to try and find my build
willow valley
but pistols feel very op
They're fine
pure valley
i havent struggled with a mission since switching to them
rigid dune
Pretty much all weapons feel strong tbh.
rigid dune
I did most missions with like assault rifles and just starter missiles for NG+ and NG++.
solemn shell
the starter missiles feel good yeah
the rifles and stuff just dont do enough tangible damage for me to like them
rigid dune
Multiple AC fights were probably the only missions that kinda pushed me to try different stuff. But I think you have to switch to specifically counter healing.
Hardest fight was probably ||carla and chatty|| for me.
solemn shell
i like the ten cell rockets
i havent beaten the game yet
i havent played in a long while either
rigid dune
Yeah, if you stagger those it kinda decimates most things.
rigid dune
Rifles work well with missiles and laser cannons.
Stagger missiles and then close distance to pressure with rifles and they will do work.
pure valley
Hardest fight was probably ||carla and chatty|| for me.
in the arena or are they a seperate bossfight?
willow valley
Yes
rigid dune
in the arena or are they a seperate bossfight?
Separate.
willow valley
Why am I suddenly seeing the take that Defend the Dam complex is a hard mission
rigid dune
It can be if you don't have the right build.
If you don't use like the common AC killing weapons, it's bit of a bitch.
Dual stun needles or song bird or pilebunker will trivialize it.
Other builds can do it too, but you have to assemble a certain level of baseline DPS, else you can find yourself fighting ||3 ACs, each with like 2 repair charges. Annoying.||
pure valley
am i missing something about the ||ayre|| boss? i feel like most of her shit just hits me regardless
nvm pilebunker solves all problems
willow valley
am i missing something about the ||ayre|| boss? i feel like most of her shit jus...
You mean ||Ibis/CEL-240||?
pure valley
no i mean the final boss for the ||Fires of Raven|| ending
willow valley
Oh
pure valley
how did you finish the game already
Like I said, I didn't really struggle unless it was against chapter end bosses and even then it was more with their moveset than my build
willow valley
Vicar Amelia irl
Is it screaming
upper bane
Yeah she likes to pray
willow valley
Fake Vicar Amelia
willow valley
The later half of final battle reminds me of the song the Demon of Song is singing
willow valley
Man am I glad I specced to have a Great bow this run
willow valley
Fume Knight is such a good boss
rancid siren
I think first time I fought him I did him first try
Sir alonne was hard af tho
The timings for alonne can be so tricky
willow valley
His knights definitely take after him
rancid siren
It took me a couple hours at the time but I did do a hitless run of that fight so I could see the seppuku animation he does at the end
Biggest pain of that whole ordeal is the run back to him
Get hit once and you have to make it all the way back again
willow valley
Oh god, don't remind me
rancid siren
I'd say it's like
For how often you have to do it just to get hitless
About as bad as the run up to the dual tiger fight in the 3rd dlc
Frozen outskirts iirc
rancid siren
I do it because masochism maybe
I hate that it's like
10 minutes of running for 15 seconds and fighting a reindeer that can kill you stupidly quick if you don't pay attention and then you have to fight two of those tigers
It's the only time where weapon durability actually mattered for me in ds2
willow valley
At least they aren't invisible, thank god
rancid siren
Clopping in the distance
willow valley
I was talking about the Tigers, but if the horses were invisible I don't think anyone would actually bother to go out that way
rancid siren
I've heard people say the blue smelter demon run up is pretty bad
It's annoying
But it's not the worse
It's 30 seconds of slight struggling for a pretty mid difficulty boss
solemn shell
the runups are my worst fear for ds2
willow valley
Not like the Smelter Demons are hard
solemn shell
so far it hasnt been bad
rancid siren
The dlc run ups are the worst ones imo
willow valley
100%
rancid siren
Have fun!
willow valley
At least Fume Knight run up is short as fuck
solemn shell
sotfs includes the dlcs right
willow valley
What with the bonfire down there
willow valley
sotfs includes the dlcs right
Yeah
solemn shell
yeah so i have them
rancid siren
Ye just like remastered
willow valley
The skip I showed off yesterday is actually used to get to the DLCs early
Specifically Brume Tower
rancid siren
Honestly I've always found dark souls 2 to be really easy for the most part
I can't even say it's like demon's souls where the levels are where the difficulty is at
solemn shell
ive found it pretty easy so far]
most bosses have been first try
i cant remember if any of them were more
rancid siren
Beyond sotfs run up to iron keep smelter demon it's not that bad
solemn shell
areas have been annoying at worst but not really bad
willow valley
Iron Keep sure is an area
pure valley
man
rancid siren
Alonne knight but everywhere I think
pure valley
shrine of amana slander
rancid siren
Shrine of amana isn't that bad imo
Only the bit near the end where a guy can invade is where it gets bad for me
pure valley
thats been my no death bane forever
willow valley
Fun fact: I actually missed the Smelter Demon on my first run, so I ended up using the Belfry Sol bonfire as my main Iron Keep Bonfire, since I got lucky and had a Pharros Lockstone on me
rancid siren
Ds2 and 1 level design makes me hope their next game goes back to that again
I miss all the little connections and short cuts
Or seeing izalith from tomb of the giants
vital schooner
what? ds3 linear?
willow valley
DS1 and 2 got my favorite level design
solemn shell
playing ds1 the first time i got so lost in so many situations
idk why i say the first time, its the only time
rancid siren
So I like deciding where to go on ds1 playthroughs
solemn shell
im gonna play ds1 again but probably only for achievements
i just did not enjoy it much
solemn shell
i would have liked it a lot more if it was the first fromsoft game i played, and i wasnt spoiled on the entire story of the series already
willow valley
I enjoyed it a lot more on my latest replay, I'm unsure why
rancid siren
Do a magic run
rancid siren
Magic playthroughs in ds1 and 2 are really fun
willow valley
My last run was a curved sword Pyromancer
solemn shell
i just used smough's hammer
and gargoyle halberd before that iirc
the game was miserable in the first half but once i beat O&S it got at least a little bit fun
crazy how fast travel made me instantly have more fun
willow valley
Bro hates walking, that's crazy
solemn shell
i hate walking through places ive already been, fighting the same enemies i already had to fight
its just tedious
solemn shell
its something i love about fromsoft
how everyone has different opinions on the games
it goes to show that they're all good
rancid siren
It has a little something for everyone
solemn shell
except game journalists
rancid siren
Remember the cuphead guy who couldn't figure out the tutorial
solemn shell
yeah i was just thinking about that when i said journalists
rancid siren
Absolutely classic tbh
solemn shell
ill never forget it
willow valley
Always a good laugh
rancid siren
I don't understand how they didn't just say he went for a piss or smth and edit it all out
willow valley
It's honestly quite incredible how many times he failed
solemn shell
its like one of my sisters playing a game
rancid siren
Dude single handedly tarnished the image of online game journalism
solemn shell
i think all the people going "ITS THE DARK SOULS OF (genre)" did that
willow valley
Imagine if IGN had assigned someone actually competent at platformers too
rancid siren
i think all the people going "ITS THE DARK SOULS OF (genre)" did that
That was the build up before the straw on the camel's back
solemn shell
i dont thikn IGN has anyone competent at games
rancid siren
i think all the people going "ITS THE DARK SOULS OF (genre)" did that
It really makes you feel like batman
solemn shell
it really makes you feel like the tarnished
rancid siren
It really makes you feel like a game journalist
willow valley
The exagerrated swagger of a Black Teenager
solemn shell
it really makes you feel like the exaggerated swagger of the dark souls of black teenagers
solemn shell
didnt it already happen with the baldurs gate 3 thing
rancid siren
What'd they do
solemn shell
they're saying game devs are scared of baldurs gate 3 "setting a standard" for the genre
solemn shell
thats what they're saying yes
rancid siren
Now that's the unbiased journalism I don't pay for
solemn shell
but its kinda dumb
i dont remember why now but i watched a video about it that i agreed with
rancid siren
Was it dunkey
solemn shell
noodle
rancid siren
Oh I can't guarantee that person's opinion is 100% factual
rancid siren
Oh I can't guarantee your opinion is 100% factual
It's quite simple, you watch dunkey you agree with him and automatically you win at life
wise ingot
Was it dunkey
Basically saying that you can expect games to be good and stable and stuff but you shouldn't expect them to be big because first, big is not better, and second, big is way more risk for the studio making the game meaning it might just die if the game goes bad or even just kind of underperforms.
Also, it asks why we always think the best games are just the biggest ones
And why we don't get as hyped for more focused games
willow valley
Do y'all consider twin princes a duo fight?
solemn shell
nah
you only ever fight one entity at once
either they are together, or one of them is dead
and lothric doesnt really fight, he just augments lorian's attacks
augment isnt really the right word
compliments them
willow valley
That's fair, but I feel the fact that you're fighting two entities with separate health bars with their own attacks kinda muddies the water
Though I suppose only one of those bars matters
solemn shell
two health bars doesnt mean two bosses
thats kinda a stupid argument
forget i said that
willow valley
I was about to say lmao
solemn shell
anyways i just dont count them
you can argue that they are a duo, but you cant deny that they are much different from a usual duo fight
kinda just up to the individual i suppose
willow valley
Yeah, there's no denying that they're unique
The revival kinda reminds me of the Throne defenders in DS2 ngl, since they're able to revive each other if you don't kill them fast enough
solemn shell
yeah it is similar
other than that very different
throne defender and watcher are seperate after all
i think of ornstein and smough as like
the absolute de facto duo boss
willow valley
Yeah, I was just noting the similarities
solemn shell
they coordinate attacks together, but not like actually together
willow valley
I actually don't think they're special at all
solemn shell
they arent special they are the baseline
solemn shell
its the only fight i like from base game ds1
and i dont like it much compared to like any ds3 boss
willow valley
They act like it's the godsend of all duo fights From Soft have ever made
solemn shell
i cant think of a better one tbf
willow valley
When that is very clearly demon Prince
solemn shell
most of them end up being miserable
oh demon prince is pretty good yeah
its just kinda forgettable
its a great boss its just overshadowed by gael
willow valley
And Midir
willow valley
I honestly think From Software got better at duo fights in every title, except for Elden Ring
willow valley
I personally think Throne Defenders are better than O&S, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was alone in that
solemn shell
personally i think dragonrider duo is the best fight in all of fromsoft
willow valley
willow valley
So true, so true
solemn shell
jokes aside bed of chaos wasnt that bad
it was miserable for sure but i dont know if its the worst honestly
willow valley
What do you think is the worst?
solemn shell
i dont know, thats the problem
if im gonna be honest probably something in elden ring
elden ring has some of the worst bosses and some of the best bosses imo
willow valley
Literally no boss has ever made me feel as purely miserable as Bed of Chaos has
Even with the shortcut runback
solemn shell
sir gideon offnir
genuinely miserable boss i hate him so much
he either doesnt exist or he spams spells
willow valley
Gideon is pretty lackluster, especially since he's surrounded by good bosses, but you legitimately nuke him so fast on any remotely competent build that I feel he's not awful
solemn shell
the nuking is what makes me not like him
i want to have fun during a boss, i dont want to kill it in like one iht
and if you dont nuke gideon you have to suffer through an npc fight but with the most annoying spells known to man
willow valley
That's fair, but at the same time I feel if a boss is too long it can be a major detraction
solemn shell
at that late in the game, it makes sense to not have ANOTHER big boss
that would be 4 in a row
he makes sense in that way, its kinda a break from having to fight tough bosses
and narratively its pretty cool
finally killing the dude thats been spying on you and secretly messing stuff up and even sent a hitman after you at one point
willow valley
Well I mean
solemn shell
its a sad state of affairs
willow valley
Supposedly the hitman came after you on their own
solemn shell
its no mistake that after you get a part of the haligtree medallion, the thing gideon has been searching for, the guy constantly outside of his room comes and tries to kill you
willow valley
Yeah
The dude works for the guy, he knows he wants the thing you think they're not gonna try and get it?
solemn shell
by the way it would be cool to have more stuff like that in fromsoft games
times where the hub area becomes hostile momentarily
its a cool twist
its always been the safe haven
willow valley
Yeah
solemn shell
honestly i just love that kind of twist in games
i think a lot of horror games do it
willow valley
I mean, they put you in the Leyndell location, so that way you can swing your weapon, but it's cool
solemn shell
thats funny i never realized that
makes sense though
reminds me of the O&S thing
in the cutscene where ornstein grows, he isnt growing, the room is getting smaller
little shortcuts like that are funny to me
willow valley
Oh, I thought you meant the illusion of Anor Londo
solemn shell
i had no idea what was going on in that part of the game so uh
i dont really know anything about anor londo
willow valley
reminds me of the O&S thing
Or like how instead of the hallway in Gwyndolyn's boss fight being a looping hallway it's just actually insanely long?
solemn shell
yeah little shortcuts in programming
willow valley
It's actually really funny, you can drag out the fight and loot the chests all the way at the back while being shot at if you want
rigid dune
I think duo fights are universally bad in fromsoft games. You usually just end up fighting the boss and the camera.
Not usually. Universally.
vital schooner
dark souls is the dark souls of fromsoft games
dark souls is defined by:
-the worst 3rd person camera you can think of
-glitches in boss attacks that you gaslite yourself into believing its part of the challenge
-absolute dog crap pvp
-and a community that if you dont play it their way you get bullied by saying you played easy mode and you gotta actually play with kingkongs dick in your ear if you wanna say you beat the game
so ya dark souls checks out
for the king kong thing it needs some context
he was failing on this boss i think for days and the chat being dark souls chat was absolute horrendous
vital schooner
big patch for lies of p nerf a handful of bosses and subbosses, not live for xbox service versions yet
rancid siren
Sucks hard in bad way?
rancid siren
Idk about that
That fight tho is a bit sloppy
|| you don't really feel like you improved in skill since Balteus 1 because you just have more access to better weapons and parts. ||
pure valley
it was more his phase 2 ||hyper beam||. either i was under him when it started or he zoomed away and i ate 10k damage from the hazards he left behind
willow valley
Okay, so I'm doing a completionist run of Elden Ring, and I feel like I'm back in my first playthrough, it's crazy
pure valley
whoo!
willow valley
Gaming
willow valley
willow valley
If you bent it to fit in the environments though, I think it would only fill up that bit from Weeping to Caelid
Which is fucking insane
Also makes me think how fucking fast ACs are holy shit
vital schooner
i thought that was the party bus going over the map of hyrule
rigid dune
Barring AC 6, VA work in from games have been very very mid.
vital schooner
Go ahead; touch the demon inside me. Let these vagabond souls become thine own.
You see that pit? it's filled with treasure, but im having a little trouble getting to it myself.
Ooh! Majestic! A hunter is a hunter, even in a dream.
solemn shell
You should have waited!
I, Siegward of the Knights of Catarina, fight by your side!
willow valley
I have given thee, courtesy, enough
pure valley
Ok but ac6 kinda blows other from games out of the water
solemn shell
little known fact but ac6 is not a souls game
willow valley
It is a From game though
solemn shell
voice acting is the only thing it has to show characters, so its gotta be better
pure valley
I mean... you can't really call the souls npcs expressive either
willow valley
Ok but ac6 kinda blows other from games out of the water
I dunno, I personally prefer the voice acting in Elden Ring over AC6
pure valley
Oh really? Any standouts to you? Varre was great iirc
solemn shell
rykard
pure valley
solemn shell
TOGETHAAA
pure valley
WHE WILL DEAVOR THE GODs
rigid dune
Lot of from's NPC voice work is really known for memes more than anything else. AC 6 just had consistently good voice work.
Mostly coz half the lines in soulslike games are so cryptic that it is hard to attach any kind of emotion to it.
pure valley
Also the final boss of the ||liberator|| ending was so well done
rigid dune
Yeah, ||Ayre's VA|| went above and beyond for that role.
pure valley
Her too, but I was talking about ||walter||
rigid dune
Oh...right.
willow valley
Oh really? Any standouts to you? Varre was great iirc
Gideon, Rykard, Ranni, Kenneth, Godfrey, the narrator over some of the cutscenes, Margit/Morgott, Godrick, and Jerren all come to mind
rigid dune
I mixed up the endings.
pure valley
Gideon, Rykard, Ranni, Kenneth, Godfrey, the narrator over some of the cutscenes...
Who the fuck is jerren
willow valley
Who the fuck is jerren
"A CELEBRATION OF WAR, THE RADAHN FESTIVAL"
rigid dune
The VA for the elden ring opening cutscene was great. I think it's Gideon's VA.
pure valley
"A CELEBRATION OF WAR, THE RADAHN FESTIVAL"
Oh yeah! He's great
willow valley
He does some more stuff in Sellen's questline too
rancid siren
I dunno, I personally prefer the voice acting in Elden Ring over AC6
maybe if they had patches back in the game like one of the older ac games
willow valley
That was pretty funny in 4A
pure valley
Speaking of er, when are we betting on shadows release?
willow valley
I think we get a date this December if all goes well
Probably early 2024 release date
I am prepared for it to release 2026
solemn shell
i think the trolls have pretty good voice acting
"ROARGH" has gotta be one of my favorite quotes
wise ingot
Barring AC 6, VA work in from games have been very very mid.
...and engage in jolly cooperation!
Every time i read that line i read it in solaire's voice
And Elden Ring had some really good stuff too
And of course dialogue is not really from's most favoured method of characterization
rancid siren
atleast they use actual voice actors for alot of their roles in these games
would be so easy in this time in the industry to call some big celebrity actor and put them in a hypothetical elden ring 2 for easy advertisement
it's sort of starting to become a common occurence in games now
cyberpunk did it, far cry did it, death stranding did it a shit ton
vital schooner
vital schooner
willow valley
He sure did
tepid dome
I'm never getting used to "x.com"
It will never not sound like a porn site
pure valley
S ranking every mission is going to be the death of me
willow valley
pure valley
s ranking alt coral convergence is painful
solemn shell
that sounds like a spoiler
pure valley
That you know the name of an alt mission?
solemn shell
well the coral convergence is very important to the story so i feel spoiled that i know a mission has the name
vital schooner
i want demons souls remaster to release on pc
i feel like going down the nostalgia road
solemn shell
i dont think it will be on pc
willow valley
I shall simply emulate the OG
vital schooner
emulating anything playstation and xbox has never worked out for me
which is so stupid cuz theres this old RPG i wanna play and a streamer i saw was playing it but there was an hd mod and it looked amazing
but setting that up and figuring it out is too annoying to me
vital schooner
i think that was my issue cuz the emulater wouldnt boot up
pure valley
well the coral convergence is very important to the story so i feel spoiled that...
But that's not the mission name
solemn shell
but you just said it was the name of the mission
willow valley
I always just sniff around Discords for the games and like 4/10 times it works so it's not very consistent but I'm really happy when it works
willow valley
Cool
pure valley
Waiting for sale personally. Gameplay looks off to me
rigid dune
The boss design is very elden rings mixed with sekiro mechanics.
willow valley
It's pretty gud.
Doesn't interest me
pure valley
Ah so just bloodborne lite as the setting
rigid dune
Yeah, the combat has some bloodborne aspects. LIke blocking gives you health regain like bloodborne rally and the dash is kinda similar. But that's pretty much it.
The setting is sorta unique. It has some mild bloodborne vibes, honestly it stands on its own.
willow valley
Yeah, the combat has some bloodborne aspects. LIke blocking gives you health reg...
You mean attacking?
pure valley
but you just said it was the name of the mission
It's shortened of it. If you are bothered by this, I apologize I had assumed everyone here was familiar with the game
pure valley
Yeah, the combat has some bloodborne aspects. LIke blocking gives you health reg...
Blocking gives health back? How's that work
solemn shell
It's shortened of it. If you are bothered by this, I apologize I had assumed ev...
its okay ive been making too big a deal of it when i dont actually care that much
rigid dune
In bloodborne, it is whne you take damage.
It encourages perfect parries coz if you don't and get a regular block, you have the opportunity to regain health by going on offense.
willow valley
Is the blocking similar to Sekiro's?
pure valley
Oh gotcha I thought you ment you rallied back when you blocked
vital schooner
lies of p is prob the best fromsoft like thats been released
solemn shell
theres some deflects for sure
solemn shell
lies of p is prob the best fromsoft like thats been released
nioh is pretty good isnt it
pure valley
I couldn't stand it
rigid dune
Is the blocking similar to Sekiro's?
Yeah, it is..but in Sekiro, that felt like the only way to play.
rigid dune
While in lies of P, perfect parry is not the end all be all.
willow valley
I wouldn't either, Nioh is very much it's own thing
pure valley
I think a lot of the souls tubers covered it
vital schooner
to the uninitiated its a souls like
rigid dune
I wouldn't pay for full price for it, but definitely worth off game pass.
Lies of P, I mean.
But it is a very good game.
But too similar to souls games and I think I have just had enough of that genre at this point.
rigid dune
Yeah, I feel like the combat mechanics only work well with specific kinda boss designs. I think their best was DS3.
Elden ring boss battles were a slog.
vital schooner
ive been intending to go back to lies of p cuz the setting is my jam. but ive been getting crazy good gains in sf6 and i wanna strike while the metal is hot. but then its so mentally draining that the games ive been playing along side it have just been some chill stuff
willow valley
I dunno, I feel like From Software has only ever gotten better at making boss fights
rigid dune
Elden ring had a lot of misses.
pure valley
There were a few in er that I couldn't stand
rigid dune
At least for me.
pure valley
A few in ac6 too
willow valley
I don't think I actively disliked a single boss in Elden Ring
vital schooner
for fromsoft theres certain boss design i do not like that started in ds3, then in elden ring they doubled down on the bullshit
solemn shell
elden ring was very hit or miss for me
ds3 has better overall bosses imo
a better average boss quality
pure valley
for fromsoft theres certain boss design i do not like that started in ds3, then ...
Could you give an example
solemn shell
if you're talking about yhorm that did not start in ds3
rigid dune
I really hated the gimmick of giving bosses amibigious strings. The delays were a bit overused, but kinda learnable. Having to learn a flow chart just felt like unpaid internship.
solemn shell
wdym ambiguous strings
rigid dune
Like the boss would start with like a baseline string that goes A -> B -> C..and then start introducing a lot of variations on it. Like sometimes A -> B. Sometimes A -> a different string or A -> B -> grab. A -> B.
solemn shell
i like that a lot
rigid dune
It just made openings nonexistent.
solemn shell
i love it when they mix it up
rigid dune
I don't.
solemn shell
make it more interesting than doing the same strings over and over
solemn shell
like artorias was great but it would be better if he had more than like 4 attacks
rigid dune
Also, openings felt scarce in elden ring.
vital schooner
potiff in ds3, he has a move that has the same start up as 2 different moves. one move is really fucking fast and you have to dodge like as soon as you see it. then second attack is delayed enough that if you think its the first attack and dodge right away he hits you on your roll recovery and its fucking horse shit. many bosses in elden ring share this. then the delay swings ill never enjoy, i think its a piss poor boss design thats never fun to learn. then you have bosses in elden ring that will cancel strings into other strings so you have to play so fucking passive and its boring. plus ill never respect double boss fights
rigid dune
I actually think it is great design when sparingly used.
solemn shell
double boss fights are always bad imo
rigid dune
Every single major boss fiight being that way is no fun.
Double boss fights are another boss gimmick that is now embedded in the genre DNA and kinda lmae.
solemn shell
demon prince was probably the best duo fight
vital schooner
bloodborne is my favourite fromsoft game for many reasons but the combat is one of the reasons i love it. no shield and only a dodge and when you get hit by bosses bullshit you can instead of playing safe just go ham against them and recover some of that life back. i hate when a boss fight forces me not to play the game
solemn shell
like in general
willow valley
demon prince was probably the best duo fight
100%
pure valley
Huh
solemn shell
bloodborne is my favourite fromsoft game for many reasons but the combat is one ...
i dont like being able to go ham
pure valley
That shit is awful
solemn shell
i want to have to play tactically and methodically
dodging attacks and then using my own
i just love the feeling of mastering a boss moveset and no-hitting it
thats why i did the elden ring no-hit run and why i started a ds3 no-hit run (havent finished it yet or even gotten very far)
willow valley
Like the boss would start with like a baseline string that goes A -> B -> C..and...
I actually learned a lot about this behavior in my Melee glass canon run, all attacks and strings are based on your position and which direction you want to move, rather than being a random chance for one sting to be done instead of another
Not to mention you can just walk around a bunch of attacks
solemn shell
strafing attacks feels so cool
i watched a uh
no upgrades, no rolling, no blocking, no parrying pontiff no-hit
vital schooner
if you want a example of what i think is a good way to design a double boss fight its actually in lies of p, going to spoil a boss design so only click is you dont care, ||in lies of p theres a double boss fight where you fight 1 on 1 and at certain HP levels a second enemy spawns for that phase. you cant just attack but the main boss doesnt go ham against you and lets you fight the new enemy and every once in a while the main boss will come charging at you while screaming with a big swing, and as long as you are paying attention to him or the sound you dont get clocked. its a very intense fight but it feels fair the entire time|| id like your opinion on that boss sherlock, i know its one you battled already
solemn shell
it looked really hard but sheesh that was awesome
rigid dune
Oh ya, ||Eldest of black rabbit brotherhood was a fun fight.||
solemn shell
if you want a example of what i think is a good way to design a double boss figh...
i cant read this cause i wanna play lies of p, but im gonna say i think a good way to do double boss fights is giving them designated roles, like a long ranged one and a melee one, so you know what to look out for from each one
oh and give them moves that they do together
like they come together, do an attack, and then seperate again
rigid dune
Yeah, the fight compound is referring to is actually quite different. The main problem with duo fights is really just the camera.
solemn shell
duo moves like that are so cool
rigid dune
The best part of lies of P/sekiro combat was that offense and defense are not separate things.
solemn shell
i think sekiro handled duo fights pretty well
rigid dune
it never felt like you are on the backfoot when you are defending in those games.
pure valley
Camera and lighting are the biggest offenders for me in alot of fights
solemn shell
like in sekiro, every duo fight is more like a puzzle combined with a fight
you figure out the best way to approach it, so you can like get a stealth blow on one of the bosses or something
or lead the enemies away with a whistle and then fight the boss
vital schooner
dude the camera for that end of act 1 boss in ac6 tilted the absolute fuck out of me lol. sherlock suggested for me to not use lock on but i was using a controller
rigid dune
I think using lock on is probably better than what I did.
willow valley
Can't say I ever had a problem with the camera in AC6
vital schooner
there was so many times where i would dodge like under him or whatever and he would start his sword swing and i legit could not see the attack
pure valley
|| balt ||? Is lockon bad? I used it basically whole game
rigid dune
I didn't use lock on until the boss of the ||fires of raven ending||
Nah, lock on is good. I just bumped up the camera speed and manually tracked everyone.
Untill ||Ayre|| where it was impossibhle.
willow valley
|| balt ||? Is lockon bad? I used it basically whole game
Nah, I used lockon my whole time playing and didn't have a single problem
pure valley
Camera was my bane in ||liberator|| ending
Please do not have a red indicator on a red background for a red beam
willow valley
I just listened to the alert noise
rigid dune
the first 2 endings for AC 6 were great. The ||allmind ending|| was just..weird.
willow valley
I liked it, personally
rigid dune
It was funny to have to fight good ole ||Iguazu|| again.
It was like "Why are you even here?"
vital schooner
i should beat ac6
willow valley
It was like "Why are you even here?"
Because he hates himself
vital schooner
beat belltits and havnt touched the game since
pure valley
Game gets so good after belltits
rigid dune
The chapter end bosses were so good across the board.
solemn shell
oh but i forgot
vital schooner
too much to play right now
rigid dune
I am going to wrap up lies of P.
pure valley
Legitimately one of the best science fiction stories I've read/listened too
solemn shell
i actually pirated the game at first with the intention of seeing if it was good before actually buying it
rigid dune
Then it is gonna be bg 3 time
vital schooner
i havnt even touched bg3
solemn shell
i bought it legit now so im gonna have to restart
vital schooner
ive never played or really seen gameplay of bg3 yet and all i know is shadowheart is best girl
willow valley
Legitimately one of the best science fiction stories I've read/listened too
AIs when the indomitable human spirit gets in the mech
rigid dune
more like indomitable human spite.
pure valley
It's such a good reccuring theme in the game
vital schooner
I don't think larian does DLC.
they dont but iirc they do a directors cut ultimate edition thing where they upgrade some aspects then put in any cut content that didnt make the full release, free for people who bought the original
rigid dune
It's such a good reccuring theme in the game
||Oh ya, the PCA central command is an AI, right?||
willow valley
I dunno what it is about the human spirit that makes humans better at blowing shit up in mechs but man am I here for it
pure valley
||Oh ya, the PCA central command is an AI, right?||
Yeah || and Walter in liberator endind and arye/coral becoming more after ending 3. And of course you and inguana parallel each other the whole game ||
rigid dune
ngl I thought ||Iguazu was the comic relief the entire game. Him showing up in NG++ final fight was a real "excuse me?" moment for me.||
willow valley
I get the perspective, but after that ending I think it's more generally accepted that he's meant as a foil for the main character
What makes 621 such a good pilot is that they're fighting on the edge of life and death the whole game
pure valley
Ac6 is honestly just so well written
vital schooner
was it?
willow valley
Yeah
vital schooner
does it pick up after act 1 lol? cuz i was snoozing
pure valley
||Walter's || monolog during ||the liberator ending || is terrific
willow valley
AC6 has probably the best story of any mech game
vital schooner
i feel thats not a high bar
pure valley
Ac6 probably has the best story of any from game
solemn shell
also not a high bar
vital schooner
ok i will fight you for that take
willow valley
also not a high bar
What are you on
solemn shell
methamphetamines
willow valley
Give them to me
solemn shell
no they're mine
pure valley
also not a high bar
The opening cinematic of ds1 is peak fiction
solemn shell
the dark souls trilogy as a complete story is very good
vital schooner
bloodborne is the most fascinating story
solemn shell
demons souls has a pretty good story
pure valley
Bloodborne is also the best
vital schooner
willow valley
Bloodborne fans when I show them a miscarriage
pure valley
Damn is it done?
vital schooner
ive read this 90 page bloodborne lore document like twice
solemn shell
Bloodborne fans when I show them a miscarriage
bloodborne fans when i expose them to 400k roentgens of ionizing radiation
pure valley
Bloodborne fans when I show them a miscarriage
willow valley
I think Elden Ring has a pretty cool story, even if it's probably incomplete at the moment
willow valley
So true
willow valley
Pass the mask bro, I want some too
pure valley
Surely 
solemn shell
elden ring has a bunch of loose ends that need to be tied up
what there is right now, is a really cool world at least
vital schooner
Pass the mask bro, I want some too
sorry between elden ringg dlc and silksong im on permanent supplies
pure valley
Idk er felt like it had alot of random stuff tacked on to the lore
willow valley
I hope we get to play with more death stuff in the DLC
Actually have some decent spells to use
solemn shell
a lot of the spell trees need more
pure valley
Best I can do is one more thorn spell
solemn shell
convergence mod does pretty good at expanding them all
pure valley
32 new glintstone spells though!
vital schooner
Idk er felt like it had alot of random stuff tacked on to the lore
you telling me the game that had the same man who wrote a song of ice and fire felt incomplete?
solemn shell
32 new glintstone spells though!
all of which are different strengths of the same projectile
willow valley
32 new glintstone spells though!
Watch them give death Dark Bead
It would be so funny
pure valley
you telling me the game that had the same man who wrote a song of ice and fire f...
Idk if he wrote any of the outer god shit but that's kinda what I was talking about
vital schooner
iirc he wrote the pantheon
solemn shell
i like the idea of having these outer gods that we dont know much about
pure valley
Imo the story from ranni > the tarnished feels very compleate
solemn shell
possibly my favorite quest in all fromsoft
willow valley
Imagine if we actually get to throw down with an outter god at the end of the DLC
vital schooner
but my comment was meant to be a meme to chuckle at
willow valley
That'd be such a clucter fuck but also really cool
solemn shell
Imagine if we actually get to throw down with an outter god at the end of the DL...
i mean we basically did with malenia didnt we
pure valley
No
solemn shell
she gets her powers from the outer god of rot
willow valley
Yeah, but the god of rot is supposedly a much more powerful giant fucking scorpion
pure valley
i like the idea of having these outer gods that we dont know much about
I do too, but they play such a huge role in the world and there's like 1 mention of them
willow valley
- There is a talisman that depicts the god as a scorpion and there's a couple documents that refer to it as 1
solemn shell
i was thinking since this dlc is possibly gonna be based on miquella in some way, its possible we could fight the outer god of rot and/or the formless mother
formless mother seems kinda
unlikely
both because she's very vaguely connected to miquella and also the name sounds like something you would not be able to fight
willow valley
- Malenia drew their power from the Rot god, and typically if you're drawing power from something you're not getting the whole share so I feel it's just a pretty logical conclusion
pure valley
Yeah but now that I think about it there was the whole 3 blooms prophecy no?
willow valley
Yeah
solemn shell
yeah i dont doubt that malenia wasnt actually the god of rot in that moment or something like that
solemn shell
Yeah but now that I think about it there was the whole 3 blooms prophecy no?
whats that
willow valley
whats that
After Malenia causes Caelid three times she becomes the goddess of rot to usher in an age of rot
willow valley
The flower at the bottom of the Haligtree
solemn shell
in the side room?
willow valley
Yeah
solemn shell
i thought that was just the flower she was in when her knight carried her back from the fight with radahn
willow valley
No
solemn shell
i guess that makes sense though, the haligtree is all infected with rot
wouldnt be able to do that without another bloom
willow valley
We see the flower of Caelid at the center of the Aeonian swamp
pure valley
Do we? We fight the commander there
solemn shell
thats not really the center
willow valley
That's what you fight the commander in, yeah
willow valley
She was holding back the rot for a much longer time so it's like when a dam breaks irl
solemn shell
ah that would make sense
whats up with millicent
i know malenia is like her mom or something
they're connected in some way
willow valley
Yeah, she's one of Malenia's "Daughter's"
willow valley
No clue
solemn shell
just how it be i guess
willow valley
It's probably in the lore somewhere but if it is I haven't found it
pure valley
They were made by gowry to inherit her connection to the God of rot iirc
solemn shell
did none of them get it except millicent
willow valley
None of them got it
solemn shell
i was just thinking millicent was all infected with rot and needed the needle so maybe that was it
willow valley
Millicent was the "purest," but she kills herself
pure valley
More lore on placduisax too please
solemn shell
godfrey cut off his heads
willow valley
Godfrey fucked them up in the Dragon War so they retreated into a crack in time to await the coming of the dragon god
pure valley
I thought he got fucked up before the dragon war
pure valley
And it was gransax that ate shit from godfrey
willow valley
They both did
pure valley
But that war started when gransax invaded lyndell
willow valley
Yeah
pure valley
Which I was under the impression was built around the erdtree
willow valley
It was
pure valley
And plad left when the erdtree grew cause he missed his god
willow valley
Nope
He got fucked up and retreated into a crack in time because he's a little bitch who needs backup
pure valley
But his item descriptions don't say that
Once his god was fled, the lord continued to await its return.
He just says he waits
willow valley
Doesn't change the fact he got bitch slapped
rigid dune
Nice. I take it you enjoyed S ranking the game?
I want to do it, but I think I wll revisit it after I do lies of P, sifu and bg3.
vital schooner
thats a big list
pure valley
Nice. I take it you enjoyed S ranking the game?
there were a few i despised
||alt coral convergance, liberator ending, and one more that is escaping me||
rigid dune
Was it ||coral export||?
||Alt coral convergence is the cel mission, but one where you go fight snail right??||
vital schooner
whats all the factors they take into account to s rank
pure valley
||Alt coral convergence is the cel mission, but one where you go fight snail rig...
||yes, two gank fights is not okay||
pure valley
whats all the factors they take into account to s rank
Speed is the biggest one, then kills, then damage taken as a penalty, then cost as a penalty. Some missions have special conditions too