Thanks Though, probably gonna go assult rifle
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rose oracle
why was cinder so tanky
solemn shell
what does it mean when a mission says "Decision" under it
solemn shell
why was cinder so tanky
that better be an arena quest or i just got spoiled
solemn shell
what does it mean when a mission says "Decision" under it
theres 2 missions with it, so does that mean i have to choose between them
willow valley
what does it mean when a mission says "Decision" under it
You only get to play one, and the one you chose dictates the ending you get
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solemn shell
ive decided to start decorating my mech with the emblems of all the foes ive vanquished
inner knoll
i like to think of obtaining emblems as sort of dog tags from battles
so i'd say it's pretty fitting
can you even change your main emblem if you obtain more or is it strictly a decal you can put on your mech
solemn shell
idk honestly
i havent tried changing cause the raven is so cool
btw im saving up for getting a full assembly of elcano parts
just cause i want something all built by the same company
and elcano parts look cool
inner knoll
hmm
anybody got tips for ||Enforcer||
been kinda annoying
do i go up to their face or try to smack him from longer ranges
inner knoll
i tried a heavyweight build, i tried a lightweight build, i'm just not dealing enough damage
i just keep running out of repair kits before i could make a dent in it
inner knoll
best run i had was with the chonk build i showed earlier but with missiles instead of grenade launchers
inner knoll
i can't believe i'm stuck at the most unremarkable boss in the game
inner knoll
i hate how little flexibility there is in terms of builds
you either play their way or you suffer
inner knoll
think i found one of my fave weapons
the explosive thrower
awesome combo potential (?)
inner knoll
willow valley
can you even change your main emblem if you obtain more or is it strictly a deca...
You can
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inner knoll
good shit
just beat the arena
the AC fights are probably some of my faves in this game, especially now with my current loadout
i really hope people won't just brainlessly flock to the tank meta
pve tanks are a joke but imagine that but with a player that actually knows what they're doing
i hear they actually tried to balance the tanktreads in older games
inner knoll
AC6 pvp is kinda sick
everybody else in the room was in black, grey and red and my goofy blue demolitionist ass is there alongside two of them in a 3v3
and then the host disbanded the room cuz i may or may not should've been there lol
willow valley
I know someone who made the big Power Ranger robot
solemn shell
i might make a cooler mech at some point but for now i love optimus prime
vital schooner
for you guys playing i got a question
think its possible in the future for ac6 to have a souls level 1 playthrough where you dont upgrade anything
or no hit runs
solemn shell
well sl1 is kinda hard cause most of the "upgrading" is just switching out parts
so it would just be playing the game without buying anything
the base loadout you start with
it would be more boring than anything else
vital schooner
thats soul level 1
solemn shell
no hit runs would be extremely hard, maybe impossible but im not sure
the amount of small things that hit you in the game is insane
rigid dune
he ded
fucking asshat.
he ded.
Nuked him in the last pulse shield phase with assault armor to strip shield and killed him.
solemn shell
i could probably beat him much easier now
i didnt have many options for weapons when i first fought him
i have a lot more burst options for after the shield goes down
rigid dune
Yeah, I tried a lot of builds and could see the potential if I had better means to support those builds.
But for this one, I just went simple. Missile launchers, sword and plasma rifle.
The rifle was reasonably effective and sword was the main DPS in the stagger phase.
I didn't realize how effective the pulse nuke would be.
It did a loot of damage.
He did the ground control fire attack and I hovered right on top and did the nuke.
It melted his shields and then chewed into his AP and I just had to swing once and he was ded.
solemn shell
the build i was using when i won was missile launchers, a plasma machine gun thingy for the shield, and a sword
rigid dune
I was surprised that I won.
rose oracle
i just used 16 rockets everytime i broke his shield
solemn shell
i could almost onecycle the first phase
rigid dune
Yeah, that seems to the most efficient setup.
With the parts you have access to at that point.
solemn shell
yeah i saved my missile ammo for the shield being done
rigid dune
i just used 16 rockets everytime i broke his shield
I didn't like that setup coz the missiles took to long to connect. The quad launchers that take the more direct route seemed faster DPS.
solemn shell
then in the final cycle when i knew he would die after the shield broke, i used missiles to make the shield break faster
rose oracle
the build i was using when i won was missile launchers, a plasma machine gun thi...
missile launchers are good throughout the whole game im guessing
solemn shell
idk i havent gone through the whole game
but ive been using missile launchers the whole time and theyve always been good so far
well most of the time
||i beat cataphract today and missiles werent the greatest idea, but i didnt have anything better i could use on my right shoulder||
||it was cool having a boss that basically forces you to use big single shot damage, but it wasnt a very fun boss||
rigid dune
think its possible in the future for ac6 to have a souls level 1 playthrough whe...
Don't think so..the game has a looot of homing projectiles and the base setup doesn't have a lot of HP.
The base setup doesn't have a lot of damage and lots of fights are damage races.
rigid dune
The balt fight did teach me some patience and camera control.
And forced me to control energy expenditure instead of quick boosting for the sake of it.
solemn shell
its a good gatekeep fight
inner knoll
no hit runs would be extremely hard, maybe impossible but im not sure
VaatiVidya gave it a whirl, i haven't watched it all the way through, but he tries to get through chapter 1 at the very least
solemn shell
idk
its an elden ring fan
i wouldnt put it past someone that knows fromsoft as "the elden ring developers"
inner knoll
i found one negative review that sums up the negative perception of fromsoft fans
"too armored core for souls fans
too souls for armored core fans"
solemn shell
hey i farm that guy too, and i didnt even know about that
inner knoll
image editor is fun
inner knoll
spoilers:
man, ||cel 240|| is such a good boss fight
a boss that actually allowed me to keep my pvp build lol and overcoming it felt like skill
and i felt good about developing strategy for them
inner knoll
yeah nvm, i had hope in fromsoft for a moment
but now i guess it's back to the good ol switcheroo at the final fucking boss
||Ayre feels like she's straight up aimbotting with her laser shots||
wise ingot
thats soul level 1
SL1 is still cool because you can get new gear and stuff
In DS1 you're routing to find the ninja ring and pyromancies, for example
It's a limitation on gear, not a complete shutdown like it would be in AC
inner knoll
what in the fuck is that second phase
it's elden beast all over again
fucking kill me
inner knoll
nah bruh i fold
i almost killed them and now i can never replicate what i did before
i'm kms
fuck this boss
fuck this game
and fuck the positive reviews
literally the only well designed boss was just before
and then fromsoft said "sonny boy, you've not seen shite"
and they throw this crap out
inner knoll
...
welp
i did it
i
feel kind of mixed
i don't know how to feel about the ending i got
i love getting the bad ending after finishing a difficult game
how the fuck did some people beat this shit in 15 hours
inner knoll
is it me or is NG+ incredibly easy-
or because i'm using late game gear for early game bosses lmao
vital schooner
if its anything like their previous games you steam roll through the first half of bosses on ng+
inner knoll
makes sense i guess
i was a little afraid of ||Sea Spider|| but i guess it worked out
vital schooner
iirc ng+ is flat out % increases. so the first few bosses increases arent a lot compared to the end game bosses which have much higher numbers to play with. they dont balance individual bosses
willow valley
||Ayre feels like she's straight up aimbotting with her laser shots||
I dunno, I felt like the only hard final boss was the NG++ exclusive one, but I know people struggled with ||Ayre|| so maybe it's just a me thing
inner knoll
i did a bit as well, but uh
double shotgun gaming
i guess lol
did the same thing i did for ||Cel 240||
look at their moves, wait for a very punishable attack and fire
willow valley
I dunno, I just kinda Quick Boosted around and she couldn't really hit me
inner knoll
there's a bit of a delay for me with my heavier legs but i managed for a bit
the bigger AoE attacks were pretty obnoxious tho
and i still am not sure how ||the plane's hitboxes work||
i either tanked the lasers or quick boosted
i like how ||Cel 240 is about as aggressive as you are||
so i managed to cheese the fight a tiny bit
vital schooner
lol im watching asmon talk about AC6
and he says something along the lines is
"theres a lot of discussion around the game, mainly if its a better game than elden ring. and i unno which is better but armoured core is a better mech game than elden ring ill tell you that"
willow valley
He's so real for that
inner knoll
if you have a steady hand, i'd say keyboard and mouse is just as good, if not better
willow valley
I don't think it really matters given hard lock-on is a thing
inner knoll
yeah, but in my experience i found my lock-on disappearing if i move my mouse by like
a millimeter
was pretty annoying against more mobile opponents
willow valley
I always just take my thumb off the joystick and it's on them like glue
inner knoll
yeah, i just mean keyboard and mouse lol
meanwhile compound's stick is drifting
so that also could ruin lock on
unless they mean the left stick
willow valley
Yeah, which would be kinda annoying but not unplayable
inner knoll
mine kinda is, but maybe the severity is different so who knows
so now i'm on kbm
i managed to beat the game once at least lol
in 40 hours
willow valley
Cool
willow valley
Anyone want to try out the PVP?
willow valley
Alright, want me to set it up?
inner knoll
sure sure
willow valley
Also, want to VC?
willow valley
PR4
inner knoll
gotcha
willow valley
The perfect round of Armored Core VI PvP
willow valley
Omg, he's literally you
willow valley
You totally didn't go 1-15
willow valley
So true, so true
willow valley
willow valley
I did survive though
inner knoll
cuz i fuck up the songbirds timing 
willow valley
Skill issue, ngl
willow valley
Spoon has that already
inner knoll
inner knoll
yeah NG+ is weird
up until ||Ibis/Cel|| i had zero issues with my current build
guess everything is just
solved
with a high impact loadout
inner knoll
yeah NG+ is weird
up until ||Ibis/Cel|| i had zero issues with my current build
although that one feels like it's more reliant on my skill rather than my build
still probably the best one in the game
willow valley
Definitely
inner knoll
"i came up with this build"
dual gats with wheelchair
uh huh
oh yeah, reviews came in from other sources
if you check steam
bunch of 10/10s and 9/10s
wise ingot
one thing i will say: AC6 is worse than elden ring or bloodborne
but that is a ridiculously high bar to set
willow valley
I disagree
wise ingot
a youtuber made a video titled "Bloodborne is better than your favourite game" and i'm not sure they're wrong
willow valley
Who gives a shit about some random YouTuber, bro
wise ingot
that is not my point
it has nothing to do with my point
i just thought it was a good way of putting it
those games are really really fucking good
saying "game is bad because worse than Bloodborne" is an entirely unreasonable statement
willow valley
Yeah
wise ingot
that is all of my opinion on dunkey's video
vital schooner
i had certain expectations for the game that i wasnt sure if they would have been met and it doesnt look like they were. prob get the game down the line when its on sale
willow valley
What expectations
rose oracle
Tbh, I like feeling overpowered
vital schooner
so im going to spoiler it cuz im going to be talking about what ive heard about story and how ng+ is treated so if you know stuff like that then you are gucci ||so i was expecting an actual story and maybe something that last 25-40 hours on a single play through without multiplayer. i know armoured core was never big on the story and they dive right into action and mech building but currently thats not what im looking for. want a fun and interesting sci fi game and i was hoping they took some writers from their other games to make something better than previous ac games. the second is length. again ac games single player in previous games i was told was like 6 hours or something but i never do ng+ runs in games im one and done and finding out theres content locked behind ng+ is just a massive turn off for me cuz im going to get bored in the first half of ng+ like i always do and never see it. i guess the last one was something i didnt know before hand but if what dunkey said is right and the game is easy to figure out thats also no fun. not needing to adapt to gameplay is kinda lame if you can just steam roll everything minus like a couple gate keeper bosses|| anyway this isnt to hate on something all yall like and more my thoughts on why im not in a rush buying it when there is so many games out right now checking the boxes im looking for, or well at least some of the boxes
oh and while i spoilered stuff that doesnt mean i actually want to be spoiled so keep that in mind
willow valley
Whoever gave you that time figure is a fucking liar
Most people I've seen clear their first playthrough in 20-30 hours
rose oracle
It’s 6 hours?
vital schooner
most common time ive heard was 15-20
no i was saying the previous games
i thought i heard ac4 was a 6 hour game or something
willow valley
It’s 6 hours?
Yeah, older AC games are really short
rose oracle
Ok I was gonna say cause it doesn’t feel like I’m half way through the game
willow valley
What chapter are you on?
willow valley
rose oracle
||Uh the cinder boss fight and I’m at the part where the giant lasers are aiming at me ||
willow valley
I have no clue where you're at too lmao
rose oracle
I forgot this game has chapters
solemn shell
one thing i will say: AC6 is worse than elden ring or bloodborne
i mean
not really a fair comparison
they're very different
willow valley
vital schooner
Oh compound beat me
wut i do
summer valley
wut i do
dunkey vid
Ngl I saw my brother playing it yesterday and I wasn't very interested in it
I was def expecting an elden ring level game and while all of you seem to enjoy this I'll probably pass on it
solemn shell
i would have thought it looks cooler than it feels
what do you mean an elden ring level game
solemn shell
so an open world game
summer valley
pretty much yee
solemn shell
its armored core thats not open world
solemn shell
people gotta stop expecting it to be like other stuff fromsoft has put out
summer valley
Regardless of the developer I kind of expect every game to be open world these days
Or just not mission based
solemn shell
thats
summer valley
There's not anything wrong with it
solemn shell
thats on you tbh
summer valley
I said I'm probably going to pass on it
That shouldn't affect you enjoying it at all lol
vital schooner
to be fair on the other side
fromsoft doesnt do a really good job at showing its not like their other titles. "its like armored core you cant expect it to be like their other fantasy stuff" well for the last decade we have only had their other stuff. they completly left behind the ac IP that its not surprising people dont know what an AC game is. they never remastered any of them, they stopped making them, and they never even rereleased any of the game. the only way to play the games is either pirate or pay over 100 dollars from resellers
wise ingot
Open worlds are pretty common but that's not really a good thing
Most games that are open world probably shouldn't be
vital schooner
most consumers arent going to watch every trailer or every interview. they are just going to see mech game and that its by fromsoft
summer valley
most consumers arent going to watch every trailer or every interview. they are j...
me :3
vital schooner
me :3
https://tenor.com/view/fish-eating-fish-eating-from-spoon-feeding-fish-fish-food-yngqis-gif-20301545
youre still a cute feesh
summer valley
summer valley
rancid siren
Open worlds are pretty common but that's not really a good thing
Most games that...
very true
especially when most open world games all do the ubisoft formula of big beacons that shows you the local area, outposts, side missions that feel irrelevant to what the game is about, and a generally empty world outside of all that
AC6 was honestly really refreshing because the missions are all 10-15 minutes long at average and it felt like playing an old ps2 era game with all the new capabilities of modern games
i feel like ac6 is a nice streamlined experience that has a ton of replayability and allows for quick sessions instead of dragging you along for movie length story missions like most games now
vital schooner
3/10 mech, too spider like
willow valley
Not as zoomy, but you can rain death
I'm not a fan of how slow it is personally
rigid dune
He do be a slow boi
I dunno, it's just a different play style.
I have the zoomer AC saved
willow valley
Fair enough
rigid dune
Frosty
willow valley
I don't get how people say Zimmers are OP when the Plasma Rifle exists
rigid dune
Plasma rifles is pretty nice. I am fighting the spider.
Haven't tested out zimmers yet.
willow valley
https://i.imgur.com/tAQZZNe.jpeg
Looks like mint gum packaging
rigid dune
Yeah. That's what I was going for...
willow valley
willow valley
My mech is nothing to scoff at 
rigid dune
That reminds me. I have to make the jean gray mech
solemn shell
https://i.imgur.com/tAQZZNe.jpeg
whoa that looks sick
willow valley
Reverse joints are the best looking things in the game, it's so good
solemn shell
no i dont like the reverse joints i mean the colors
reverse joints just look weird to me
unnatural
spider legs are probably my favorite visually
quads
vital schooner
a wallflower mech?
inner knoll
honestly, i don't think every single modern video game should aim for a 100 hour journey
so many devs experiment with the concept of a "forever game"
live service games, frequent patches etc.
one day i'm going to be dead
and in that time i wanna enjoy different kinds of games that actually feel exciting rather than feeling like i clocked in to employment cuz of all the grinding
vital schooner
my forever game is kens 5hp
inner knoll
and in that time i wanna enjoy different kinds of games that actually feel excit...
i'd say AC6 is great for me in that aspect
and if you have a decent build, you should be able to steamroll most of the major enemies of ng+ in a couple hours
so you can grind for the other endings
willow valley
Pretty hard not to have at least a decent build too
rigid dune
Ac 6 has been great for me from a time perspective. It is crunchy. Very little dead time. You are either shooting fools or figuring out how to shoot one particular fool.
willow valley
I just got my build to how I like to shoot people and then got really good at shooting people that way
inner knoll
with blade swipes lmao
willow valley
Yeah
rigid dune
I also like how changing builds is not a time consuming endeavor like other fromsoft games.
inner knoll
i just liked big kabooms so i wanted a high impact close to mid range build full of explosives, mostly grenades
rigid dune
@vital schooner you might like ac6. It is very partial to all kinda fiery explosions.
vital schooner
i need to get a new external ssd before i buy any more games
inner knoll
there is one weapon that shoots incendiary grenades that i know of at least
willow valley
Napalm launcher?
vital schooner
waiting for my pay
inner knoll
Napalm launcher?
mmmm maybe
but there's also one that shoots just one and it explodes into a small cluster
the one sulla and i used
rigid dune
It felt so good to sword balteus and then hit him with a missile salvo and bazooka. The way bazooka just halts movement and you can jst feel the recoil. So good.
willow valley
My build is effective and powerful at all ranges, fitted entirely with energy weapons
inner knoll
imagine if there was a reflector shield in the game
vital schooner
im also super tilted that i cant get a working controller and its killed all my desire to play games thats not fighting games or designed 100% around mouse and keyboard
inner knoll
~~imagine if there was a reflector shield in the game~~
god that'd be super toxic
willow valley
Fr
rigid dune
Combat feels like mecha bloodborne.
inner knoll
FDB but for ac6 heavyweights
vital schooner
dang and when sf6 and strive is in maint we could fight in 1v1 mech game too eh
willow valley
Yeah
rigid dune
I am gonna replay the older misssion with the hover setup to get used to th as t build.
willow valley
Specter and I tried out the PvP and it's great
inner knoll
absolutely
willow valley
Lotta really good maps, and netcode is smooth
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
ye
willow valley
You can even 3v3
inner knoll
there are singles and team battles
rigid dune
Noice
inner knoll
and free for alls
willow valley
ACVI PvP is downright comedic if you want it to be
rigid dune
Scan and line of sight gonna be sokey coz everything is so reactable.
inner knoll
really depends on the builds of the folks involved, like in the main game
i had to really work to reach Axalu a couple of times
rigid dune
Reverse joints seem like bullying
willow valley
Yeah, if I wanted I literally could've just never interacted with you
rigid dune
Tho tank seems to be the meta
inner knoll
somebody made a full on hover build against Asmongold in one of his streams lmao
and they just spammed regular missiles
willow valley
inner knoll
he had the double gat tank build
willow valley
Going for full chip out
rigid dune
Hmm, I need a better generator on the hover setup.
inner knoll
he did eventually find a place to conserve energy and used the environment to his advantage so he won in the end
this what happens when you dedicate your build to chip
willow valley
You just kinda use maps better with vertical missiles ngl
inner knoll
the doser level does minimize most of the damage if i used it more lol
the aoe of some of the missiles still got a pip of health off me
willow valley
Yeah, if I wanted too I probably could've swapped in a drone to deal with it
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
i gotta swap out one of the songbirds for something more effective at longer ranges
willow valley
My favorite point was when you swapped out your primary to be more effective at longer ranges and did worse
inner knoll
yeah lmao
zimmerman to incendiary grenade
it still warns the opponent when you decide to shoot it i think
it's just somewhat faster
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
i still have yet to use weapon bay in pvp properly so i gotta check that out too
vital schooner
how does part collection work in ac6? do you need to do missions for upgrades or do you have access to really good shit from the get go
is it like frankenstien megaman where i wear the body parts of my defeated bosses
inner knoll
you unlock parts in the part shop as you keep playing, and you can also look around in later areas for wreckage data
or you're awarded one for something else
willow valley
I think the build I have is as close to perfection as I can get it, and the only thing I need to change is minute adjustments to occasionally deal with maps
inner knoll
ye
mine is more suited for pve atm, cuz enemy ACs just do not know what to do against the explosive thrower
willow valley
Songbirds in neutral
inner knoll
so i can land one two punches like it's nothing
inner knoll
Songbirds in neutral
lmao ye
well maybe not
they dodge more telegraphed attacks still
usually
willow valley
Occasionally
inner knoll
ye
willow valley
willow valley
It's so accurate
inner knoll
Raven kinda just does whatever for most of the game
one minute you're with one side and the next you're fighting them
it's almost comedic at times
and i love that
willow valley
Perks of being a gun for hire
inner knoll
one of the main hooks for me was just seeing what this petty conflict between corps will result in while i'm in the picture
vital schooner
cant believe im already getting recommended challenge runs and i havnt watched a single ac video
inner knoll
prolly cuz the youtuber is mostly a soulslike content creator
vital schooner
that might be it, only watch lilaggy though
willow valley
ZeroLenny is goated
summer valley
inner knoll
i love this so much
willow valley
rancid siren
new game+ spoilers:
|| ran out of gun so i had to go dark souls mode ||
willow valley
Dagger has 3 attacks I think
willow valley
I only saw 2, my bad
rancid siren
it's all good
i was testing it out on this mission
pretty good tbh
one of the better melee options
willow valley
ML is the best imo
rancid siren
one of the better melee options
maybe not on ACs though
rose oracle
new game+ spoilers:
|| ran out of gun so i had to go dark souls mode ||
i gotta get that knife later on
inner knoll
Iguazu is such an over the top character
(mega spoilers)
bro has such a fragile ego ||that he merges his consciousness with a HYPERINTELLIGENT COMBAT AI JUST TO ELIMINATE YOU ONCE||
willow valley
||Still loses though||
inner knoll
yeah lmao
||i'm finally at the final boss||
me head hurts-
been grinding for it all day
willow valley
Favorite boss?
inner knoll
not really,but conceptually it is interesting
i end up dying on phase 3 when he's past half health
running zimmerman, the projectile sword and dual songbirds (naturally)
inner knoll
oh my fave
hmm
i really don't know
i mean, obviously, you know we both like ||Ibis|| a lot, but idk
||Ice Worm is a pretty cinematic fight, but it suffers from being almost purely a gimmick boss||
inner knoll
other than them, if i had to pick one, i guess the most impactful would be uh
||Walter i guess?||
willow valley
Fair
inner knoll
he gets extra points for having the special coral weapons
willow valley
Those are really pretty
willow valley
Too bad none of the Coral items are any good
willow valley
Too bad none of the Coral items are any good
||Except for ML-REDSHIFT||
inner knoll
yuh
oh yeah
||i felt the urge to cry when Rusty uttered his last sentence on the road to Fires of Raven||
willow valley
||Rusty deserved better ngl||
rancid siren
New game+ spoilers:
|| I accidentally picked the wrong option and helped Swinburne when he stops during your fight with him and found out you can still shoot him and it gives you an instant kill on him if you do ||
willow valley
New game+ spoilers:
|| I accidentally picked the wrong option and helped Swinbu...
That's funny
inner knoll
||"SIKE" insert This is America clip here||
rancid siren
new game + spoilers
what a max damage pile bunker does to a mf
solemn shell
pile bunker based
rancid siren
got all the melee, kinetic and explosive damage upgrades lol
the damage is ridiculous
willow valley
Yeah, but I feel energy weapons kinda outclass everything in general
willow valley
Plasma weapons are busted
rancid siren
something about hearing a bang instead of pew
solemn shell
yeah same
energy weapons just dont feel good
kinetic weapons are so much more fun
willow valley
4 shot clip with each shot dealing 1000+ damage at any range
inner knoll
spoilers for true ending final boss:
||how the fuck do you avoid Allmind's/Iguazu's sword swipes||
willow valley
||Gotta go up to avoid the big slash after to charge stab||
willow valley
Yeah
That's what I'm talking about
||If you go up after quick boosting the stab it dodges both the slash itself and the projectile afterwards||
inner knoll
yeah but i keep dying to everything else
cuz of the fucking aimbot up his ass
FFS I JUST WANNA BEAT THE DAMN GAME
i'm throwing literally everything i have rn
inner knoll
coral engine feels like the most useless upgrade in the world
no recharge whatsoever
willow valley
Yeah, it's worthless
inner knoll
i just can't tank everything
i fucking hate it when i have to drastically change my playstyle to beat something
it always feels like i'm picking the incorrect builds
i hate it
i had no problems before this boss, and that's the worst part
the ONE TIME i'm forced to get off my original build
and it's here in the fucking endgame
kill me
rancid siren
Sometimes I find it's not necessarily your build that's the problem but the pacing of using your build
So maybe changing one part for a similar one with more accessibility in the fight is the way to go
inner knoll
well i did it at the end
when i switched to heavy double joints
changed nothing on my weapons, i just made my character more agile
zimmerman, explosive thrower, double songbirds
and man
the true ending credits theme is iconic af
the good ol barely understandable english mumbling paired with rock lol
inner knoll
So maybe changing one part for a similar one with more accessibility in the figh...
my one real issue was just not being able to simply tank hits and i really gotta think forward and not play reactively otherwise i WILL get hit
but i'm already kind of overwhelmed at that point so i traded in some of my health and attitude stability for agility
anyway
love that quote
fits perfectly
solemn shell
stun baton is great holy crap
when i first saw it in the shop, i was like "oh that looks like it has horrible range, but ill buy it just cause its melee"
decided to try it out and wow that is insane damage for pretty good range
rose oracle
||fuck the c spider, beat its ass, screw that boss||
vital schooner
i heard someone beat the final boss damageless
willow valley
I can see that,the final bosses are pretty easy ngl
wise ingot
the only game where the last boss wasnt garbage was bloodborne
...sekiro?
SSI was an amazing boss
inner knoll
dark souls 3's final boss was pretty cool
inner knoll
yea
willow valley
Yeah, and just because the final bosses of AC6 aren't absolute nightmares, doesn't mean they're bad
vital schooner
dark souls 3's final boss was pretty cool
i unno if i got unlucky or it bugged but like the final boss for me didnt do half his attacks and i 1 shot it by just pressing R2 and never fought it again
so to me
that boss was pretty garbo
willow valley
That's a you thing
vital schooner
also to be super nit picky, the short ending for sekiro bosses were meh to me
now that i think back on it
most of my dark souls 3 playthrough was scuffed af
the pontiff where he would summon that ghost or w/e and make the fight really hard. he was backed up against the wall and since the ghost spawns behind him it actually spawned in the wall
and i got a free kill on it
willow valley
inner knoll
idk, my very first playthrough of ds3 was like
"haha big sword go swoosh"
and parrying anything that can be parried
willow valley
I swung Dragonslayer Greataxe myself
vital schooner
i really wanted to do a bleed luck build but i entered ng+ without picking up the bleedstone and it was like at the end of the game and it just killed all my motivation to ever play it again
willow valley
Yeah, really fun
solemn shell
i used exile greatsword until i got the dragonslayer greataxe
and then axe for most things
used exile greatsword a bit for some bosses
like friede
inner knoll
I swung Dragonslayer Greataxe myself
based
gotta use greataxes more often
i think they deal more poise damage as well
compared to regular greatswords
willow valley
Yeah, they're really beefy
willow valley
Anyone want to AC6 PvP?
inner knoll
yep
you can get supply crates for longer missions tho
or right before a major encounter
inner knoll
Anyone want to AC6 PvP?
may hop on in about an hour
willow valley
Dope, I'm gonna give this engine another shot
inner knoll
inner knoll
is there limitted ammo per mission?
only free resource is your melee, and those are pretty busted once you know what you're doing
plucky gate
So I should be using ranged stuff?
plucky gate
Maybe it's cuz I'm level 1 but it seems like the cool downs a bit high to take on groups with it
But I'll try if you say so
willow valley
You can quick boost out of the startup to any successive swings after the first, which makes it really safe if you whiff them and they can swing multiple times
plucky gate
The wording's a bit confusing, what do you mean
willow valley
Okay, so different melee have a different amount of swings they can perform from the uncharged version before it overheats, and you can quick boost out of the startup of these swings
inner knoll
melee cancels
willow valley
These swings can be done on whiff or hit, so you can make a whiffed melee safe by going for a follow up swing a Quick Boosting out
inner knoll
i feel like this might be a bit much for early game lmao
just know that melees deal high impact and AP damage, so it's good for staggering
plucky gate
Should I be doing this to bosses too
inner knoll
staggers approximately triple the amount of damage you'd normally deal
and yes
they have a stagger bar too
willow valley
i feel like this might be a bit much for early game lmao
I did it all the time without knowing how it worked, Lys should know how it works
inner knoll
tl;dr you can quick boost out of any successive swings after the first, removing the recovery you'd normally have to wait for
ye
fair
willow valley
may hop on in about an hour
You ready to throw down?
willow valley
VC?
inner knoll
ye, PR4?
willow valley
You bet
plucky gate
These swings can be done on whiff or hit, so you can make a whiffed melee safe b...
Can you send a clip of what this looks like
willow valley
Oh, my bad
eager gyro
So I should be using ranged stuff?
if you really want to make the game easy you could go for double shotguns and double songbirds with the tank treads
inner knoll
shhhhhh
inner knoll
@willow valley telling you bruh, it's the lighting-
willow valley
inner knoll
oh yeah, i'm also thinking of putting together a discharge build
stun baton seems really good
eh i'll leave it for tomorrow
i must shleep now
night
rancid siren
So true
Elden Ring runs so poor in comparison
Which I half get
But damn
More games like this please
plucky gate
Elden Ring runs so poor in comparison
This is real. Couldn't even run it at 30 on all settings low and off
rancid siren
From Software has such a poor history of PC releases
I don't know what changed for this one but I hope they keep it up
Question, do I get any new guns if I replay missions
inner knoll
don't think so
willow valley
Not if you got all the crates
inner knoll
replaying missions is there for extra cash, collectibles and the rank system for the completionists
willow valley
Item boxes
willow valley
Damn
solemn shell
that just reminded me theres a feature ive been completely neglecting
i absolutely totally forgot about the sensor thing
rancid siren
replaying missions is there for extra cash, collectibles and the rank system for...
Good to know now
Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything
rigid dune
Maybe it's cuz I'm level 1 but it seems like the cool downs a bit high to take o...
You don't run out of ammo unless you are being really really ineffective. Like firing missiles into the ether constantly levels of ineffective. That said, melee is phenomenal burst damage and is good both during stagger and inflicting stagger.
solemn shell
some melee is good at inflicting stagger at the same time as punishing stagger
stun baton my beloved
willow valley
some melee is good at inflicting stagger at the same time as punishing stagger
That's all of them
solemn shell
i mean like
inflict stagger
and then the explosion punishes it
or you can even punish a stagger with the main hit and then the explosion triggers after its done, getting a head start on more stagger
rancid siren
Laser lance is also pretty goated for some bosses
rancid siren
Oh it's pretty good
solemn shell
sword, big circle sword, pilebunker, and stun baton
rancid siren
It chases so hard
solemn shell
i need to find the moonlight greatsword
i have no idea when im gonna get it
if its in a chest or something im probably never gonna find it but if its a mission reward that would be nice
rancid siren
Ending spoilers
|| just did my second ending for this game, did the kill cinder Carla decision and got the Walter boss fight. He's actually pretty tough but I had so much more difficulty with Ayre and even V. II Snail Balteus just before him ||
|| this ending is alot more rounded out and fulfilling than the Ayre boss fight ending honestly||
willow valley
None of the final bosses are too hard, but ||Walter|| is definitely the easiest
rancid siren
|| average AC fight tbh. Dudes a glass cannon fr tho ||
|| Ayre was really difficult though, had me stuck on her as long as the first Balteus ||
willow valley
||I beat her in 3 tries lmao||
rancid siren
|| way more fun than Balteus though. ||
willow valley
Liberation Front is best ending imo
rancid siren
This is one of my fave parts tbh
rose oracle
but its a tough choice
dude hes definitly gonna betray me with the way hes talking
why did i accept
willow valley
Now you gotta fight another guy
rose oracle
wait i fought this dude in the arena
willow valley
Yeah
willow valley
You can always just start the mission from the start
Blitz the stealth portion
Get back to him
Kill him
rose oracle
||does that change the path i choose or are there even paths||
idk, i like rusty
should turn out fine
surely
rancid siren
|| I wish the triple laser cannons were good because they look so cool when you have 2 of them ||
Just a small thing
Nothing major
willow valley
||does that change the path i choose or are there even paths||
There's only one that matters, and it really only matters in NG++
rancid siren
I'll have to keep that in mind next playthrough then
solemn shell
dang
||when he gave this choice i immediately fired all my rockets and everything at him lol||
rose oracle
||when he gave this choice i immediately fired all my rockets and everything at ...
Lmao
i was tempted
but i think it might be interesting and i don't like the liberation front
solemn shell
||he said something like "you didnt even answer!!"||
solemn shell
but i think it might be interesting and i don't like the liberation front
i like the liberation front
ill do anything for them
willow valley
but i think it might be interesting and i don't like the liberation front
What do you even not like about them?
rose oracle
What do you even not like about them?
the one dude who talks to me
i base all my decisions based off of who gives me the mission
willow valley
The guy who does the mission briefs?
solemn shell
i like G6 Red but i dont like balam
rose oracle
The guy who does the mission briefs?
no like how there are people from each company who gives you a mission from them
solemn shell
i like rusty but i dont like arquebus
rose oracle
I love rusty
rose oracle
dang
thats the only reason i choose to help this dude
since i think they're on the same side
solemn shell
well
rose oracle
probably, idk lol
solemn shell
they're both arquebus
part of the vespers
if i ever have a choice where i have to betray either rusty or the liberation front, its gonna be hard
willow valley
if i ever have a choice where i have to betray either rusty or the liberation fr...
Don't worry
The choice will be easy
solemn shell
so there is a choice
solemn shell
i like walter
i dont
i dont like the idea of "handlers" and "hounds" at all so its natural
i would gladly take the oppurtunity to betray him if it exists
willow valley
Damn, you gonna love the last 2 missions
rose oracle
fr
willow valley
its a fun game
solemn shell
mischief this is a spoiler for you im pretty sure so dont read it
||im loving the truce for taking down the ice worm||
||cool to see all the people ive worked for actually working together temporarily||
willow valley
"I won't miss"
rose oracle
mischief this is a spoiler for you im pretty sure so dont read it
got it
solemn shell
i beat up a mentally ill man so that was cool
eager gyro
inner knoll
i think the problem with the connection might be the speed at which our characters move
game just can't keep up with the shift of hitboxes and hurtboxes and their speed, ON TOP OF the netcode trying its best to maintain decent cross region play
hence the hadoukens i did except with my feet while playing against @willow valley
willow valley
Bro unlocked airbending to kick me in the face
willow valley
Clean
vital schooner
AC for answers is mean
vital schooner
i see in this game it tracks your speed
does it track speed in ac6 and do americans understand km
or do you americans think "yes i am going a speed"
willow valley
does it track speed in ac6 and do americans understand km
Yes
Kinda
It tracks your distance from a target
And that correlates to speed
rose oracle
WAIT
It said i had to choose for this mission
and i had two of these
I was supposed to choose which side i took?
I just did them in order
inner knoll
I was supposed to choose which side i took?
you can choose and it will determine which ending you get
but i think only a handful truly matter
rose oracle
you can choose and it will determine which ending you get
like do i litterally have to click left or right?
or do i gotta choose the mission to determine the ending
inner knoll
there should be two missions that have a branch icon and has "Decision" next to it
the job you take determines the direction of the story (sort of)
i'd rather not tell much beyond this point, i like to just blindly go into a videogame with multipl endings and see which ending i get first
rose oracle
wait did arena just spoil who i have to fight
inner knoll
this is just data from AC characters
again, i don't wanna say too much, it's better if you experience these blind
@rose oracle
inner knoll
it's not too long assuming you beat the bosses in a handful of tries
me being stubborn, my first run took 35 hours
while most others range between 15-25
rose oracle
wait did arena just spoil who i have to fight
beat all of them
the cinder message was cool
rose oracle
loved that one too
||wait, did i just kill the original raven||
||or is raven like a group and i killed one of them||
never mind, she explained it
this worm is about to be a hard boss fight
rose oracle
i don't really like ayre
willow valley
What's wrong about her?
rose oracle
absolutely nothing
||i just know i have to choose between saving the planet/help her or choosing to help the cooperation's ||
||then i gotta kill people i like||
willow valley
||People you like are gonna be killed either way||
rose oracle
Fuck
rancid siren
Can't wait to do PvP when I finish everything
rancid siren
Yeah but I wanna get story done first
inner knoll
fair fair
willow valley
we're not the only ones
Who?
inner knoll
the kick incident
willow valley
Ah
rigid dune
@plucky gate Are you playing funni mech game?
plucky gate
I have it downloaded and just unlocked the shop
But the next game I play is prob going to be sea of stars first
rigid dune
kk
rose oracle
||fuck i choose to help arquebus but the speech the balam dudes are giving is making me feel bad||
||would they die even if i didn't attack them?||
NOOO
||I GOT TO FIGHT HIM||
inner knoll
perks of being a hired muscle
rigid dune
I just got back from Bend a few hours ago. Hvaen't played anythign in a while.
I was at the chapter 2 boss fight for a while.
Then got songbirds and that wrapped things up real quick.
willow valley
Yeah, you get good parts early, so that way you can experiment and fine tune things ASAP
rigid dune
You can't trade with those weapons. I can see why tank builds can be strong.
Being able to fire that without any mobility disadvantage is really strong.
Assuming you don't need the vertical space.
inner knoll
willow valley
willow valley
Why do people keep calling Iguazu iguana?
solemn shell
its like two letters awaya
willow valley
I keep seeing it
solemn shell
ive never seen it but it just makes sense
inner knoll
the fuck is an "Iguazu"
everyone else is some sort of noun or adjective or something along those lines
willow valley
It's a place
willow valley
Specifically some waterfalls
solemn shell
michigan
inner knoll
Rusty, Snail, Head Bringer, Swinburne
solemn shell
head bringer is a AC name
inner knoll
oh wait yeah
solemn shell
iguazu's iirc
inner knoll
woops
uh
the other guy, G5 i think, the tank AC was what i was thinking of
forgor the callsign tho
solemn shell
yeah i dont remember either
willow valley
Rusty, Snail, Head Bringer, Swinburne
Those are 3 Vespers and an AC
inner knoll
yea
solemn shell
you notice all the RaD members have an "adjective" before their name
and its stuff that they are not
"honest" brute, "chatty" stick
willow valley
"Invincible" Rummy
inner knoll
"cinder" carla
solemn shell
||guessing this means "cinder" carla is definitely not a cinder||
willow valley
||guessing this means "cinder" carla is definitely not a cinder||
I think she actually might be
inner knoll
they never confirmed nor denied it
solemn shell
thats interesting
solemn shell
i believe it i guess
willow valley
Or it could be implying her role in the ||Fires of Raven|| ending
inner knoll
||came back to finish the job?||
solemn shell
this is where i withdraw for fear of spoilers
inner knoll
did you not beat the game yet?
inner knoll
fair
willow valley
Not a lot of people have beaten AC6 yet, surprisingly
solemn shell
and now i have school starting so ill be playing even less
solemn shell
Not a lot of people have beaten AC6 yet, surprisingly
i just cant play too much of it in a row
maybe like 3 or 4 missions
willow valley
There's some really good filters too
willow valley
No, the bosses
inner knoll
oh, that was my second guess lol
idk, most of them don't stick out much, except maybe the final encounters
||Allmind/Iguazu's final boss theme really does sound like a man with self esteem issues gaining too much power||
willow valley
Fr fr
willow valley
I love the part where he screams "shut up" and the music and shit cuts out
inner knoll
yeye
"I'LL SHUT YOU ALL UP"
||and deletes the accompanying spiders and Ayre's mech||
willow valley
It's so good
inner knoll
||i really do feel bad cuz i actually relate to him on some level||
||he has every reason to be mad, since he's pretty much a gen 4 augmented human like 621, and couldn't grasp what made them so special||
kinda reminds me of pokemon in a way
i never felt like i earned my victories as a trainer, but people suck me off for how amazing i am anyway
some trainers around the protag end up feeling envious as well
i guess thematically, i could consider him my fave boss
narratively, it's a bit confusing-
willow valley
I see
inner knoll
||are we only fighting cuz Iguazu had beef with us or-||
||cuz allmind and the gang have the same interests||
rigid dune
Ch 3 missions are kinda neat.\
Build on the light AC is now gatling + sword + dual vertical 8 missile launcehrs.
Quad AC is kinda degen. Dual songbirds + Dual gatlings
vital schooner
hope i get my ssd tomorrow so i can buy ac6
inner knoll
https://youtu.be/c_Wgi5l94t0?si=Rz8nKyjgtT9QgRvn
ac6 don't need no autotune 🗣️🗣️😳😳🥶🥶
inner knoll
fr
rigid dune
"Hearing things" is very chill. My fave so far.
rancid siren
Spoilers for the entire game cuz I just finished it
|| Just finished the last ending. Iguazu being the final boss was an unexpected twist but that ending was still really cool with the big black hole thing and Raven and Ayre being scattered across the universe now. The ALLMIND rabbit-hole was a fun storyline to follow. I also enjoyed that it didn't make me fight that one C-Weapon in CH4 because I hate fighting that thing. Only complaint is that I literally first tried the final boss which was a bit meh after the last 2 were some of the more difficult bosses in the game for me ||
willow valley
I dunno, personally ||Ibis|| is my favorite boss in the game
rancid siren
|| I just think that fight is really annoying because it flies about frequently all over the place making it hard to get hits in ||
willow valley
I can see why you'd find that annoying, but I feel the boss has more than enough openings in it's moveset in order to get clean shots
rancid siren
|| true but it just felt a little too cat and mouse. Plus the fight can get disorienting if you lose track of it. I tend to just throw on tracking missiles though so it doesn't feel bad losing stagger progress because it keeps flying ||
|| I think Ayre is a bit more fun because atleast she has more openings and it feels more like a fight than a chase to get damage in ||
vital schooner
rigid dune
||Spaceport attack|| Excellent mission.
vital schooner
thisd game is ass