now that i have a game i'm down to do co-op, however that works
#From Software
willow valley
Co-op is pretty convoluted
plucky gate
how come
willow valley
Set a password, place a sign
Don't forget the item, and the fact that you have to be in same world states or else signs become inaccessible, not to mention case sensitive matching passcodes
willow valley
seemless co-op
I'm actually playing that with @tepid dome Was gonna continue it once I finished moving
pure valley
Seamless is great
pure valley
Don't forget the item, and the fact that you have to be in same world states or ...
I mean, that's only true for one area right
willow valley
The world state?
pure valley
Yeah
willow valley
Kinda? It definitely impacts one area the most, but world state does just lock you out of certain areas
pure valley
That doesn't affect world state does it?
I've def done multi-player with people not that far in the game
willow valley
Technically, I always considered the golden doors that lock progress as a world state thing
willow valley
tepid dome
I'm actually playing that with <@251097096990490626> Was gonna continue it once ...
and when will that be
willow valley
The shit gets here Thursday
vital schooner
lol im watching a streamer working on a save file getting it to ng+7 for prep for the dlc
willow valley
upper bane
solemn shell
i did
vital schooner
comic sans
tepid dome
https://vxtwitter.com/savinthebees/status/1676019593918451712?s=46&t=hfHSALsOlMh...
Dark Souls if it was good
willow valley
I hope that someday ACVD will be emulateable
Because while it's technically emulateable right now, it's so unstable it might as well not be
wise ingot
https://vxtwitter.com/savinthebees/status/1676019593918451712?s=46&t=hfHSALsOlMh...
God i wish dark souls had that many railings
willow valley
300000000% more rails
upper bane
willow valley
viscid cedar
viscid cedar
upper bane
willow valley
How did you know I was a masochist?
vital schooner
I play it cuz I know I get a well made finished product
Which for some stupid ass reason is rare today
willow valley
summer valley
do we have a release date for shadow of the erdtree yet
vital schooner
๐
wise ingot
probably after AC6
tepid dome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BfXJiczjZw
34 more days ๐ฉ
willow valley
New schizophrenia dropped
willow valley
vital schooner
wise ingot
hollow flare
solemn shell
SAME
willow valley
Only things I've watched are the reveal and story trailers
vital schooner
just the reveal for me
rigid dune
Bg 3 and AC 6 next month.
solemn shell
ive watched the reveal and the first gameplay trailer
nothin else
ive seen a lot of memes about the story but they're super weird without context
willow valley
Bg 3 and AC 6 next month.
What the fuck is Bg 3
solemn shell
baldurs gate 3
i asked this same question to someone yesterday
well not the exact same, i said something like "background 3"
willow valley
Lmao
willow valley
Trust me, if you knew the context you'd find them hilarious
willow valley
Armored Core fans try not to be complete assholes challenge
willow valley
upper bane
https://vxtwitter.com/ign/status/1686042951825203201?s=46
@willow valley I have some ideas
willow valley
https://vxtwitter.com/ign/status/1686042951825203201?s=46
<@258762305821474836>...
What's the idea
Also
My mic is usable
So we can continue ER Seamless Co-Op whenever we want
upper bane
So we can continue ER Seamless Co-Op whenever we want
hmu let us do it
willow valley
hmu let us do it
willow valley
hmu let us do it
So uh
willow valley
Dope, lemme boot up
upper bane
VC ?
white plover
AC6 soon
vital schooner
who is ready for the armored core 6 poisonous swamp level
willow valley
Mmmm, kojima reactors
willow valley
Twitter
wise ingot
inventor of the video game????
*inventor of the hideo game
willow valley
I actually did a playthrough without using Torrent not too long ago
No one ever talks about how much a pain the mosquitoes are
plucky gate
We're there certain parts that took weird manouvering like the comic said
No spirit spring and such
vital schooner
tepid dome
4 more days
vital schooner
i thought it was the 25th
vital schooner
damn, cuz of my gamer adhd im going to have to beat my indie games before getting ac
tepid dome
Armored core will be the first $60 steam game I'm buying
vital schooner
which is good cuz then i can wait till my first pay cheque of sept
tepid dome
I get my pay check hopefully on the 26th but I'm hoping my physical tips will be enough to buy both season 3 pass and Armored core
willow valley
I'm going to be between armored core and learning Johnny
Which do I download first
Armored Core VI
Or the Strive patch
Actually
tepid dome
Strive patch comes out first
willow valley
The Strive patch probably won't be up until like 1 am for me
And if ACVI drops at midnight or some shit
Then I don't really get a choice
willow valley
Strive patch comes out first
Fr?
tepid dome
Yep
willow valley
Cool
vital schooner
lol ac will prob come out before then
willow valley
I thought Strive patches dropped 1 am PST since they dropped 2 am MST
tepid dome
They probably do drop at 1 since I misremeber time frequently especially at times when I'm tired
I just remember waiting at midnight
tepid dome
If I have enough to buy AC by the time it comes out I'm doing the same thing
willow valley
I pre-ordered, so ACVI has been sitting in my library for a while now
Making me excited
tepid dome
If it's really addicting like ER then it'll be easy for me to pull an allnighter for it
I might convince one of my siblings who haven't gotten me anything for my birthday yet to buy it for me lmao
willow valley
I don't think I'm gonna be able to stop myself from all nighting
willow valley
I might convince one of my siblings who haven't gotten me anything for my birthd...
Solid strat lmao
I might get a steam card for my birthday this week so that'll cover the cost of season 3 for me if I do
tepid dome
So happy I get Friday and Saturday off after I get off work on Thursday
white plover
AC6 looks like a lot of fun
willow valley
Definitely
rigid dune
Been playing project wingman and AC7 to get into the mechy mood.
solemn shell
armored core 7 is already out???? no way !!!
wise ingot
should play AC4A
willow valley
It's fun
willow valley
willow valley
I dunno, I just saw the trailer in my recommended
willow valley
tepid dome
which is 1 hour before I get off work tomorrow
Gonna schedule the download to finish right when I get home
wtf is that tax brother
willow valley
Pretty steep
tepid dome
This is why I don't normally buy $60 games on steam
but AC6 is worth preordering
I'm 100%ing that shit
willow valley
This game is too fucking cool
rigid dune
Not clicking on anything. I will play first mission after family goes to sleep.
willow valley
Boy am I glad I remembered to spoiler
rigid dune
rigid dune
They have put a lot of love into this game. The AC editor is phenom.
willow valley
One could say I've customized my Armored Core
tepid dome
@willow valley Are you using a controller or playing with keyboard?
I'm finding it kind of hard dealing with controller
solemn shell
that was me when if irst played elden ring
willow valley
I think my first ER session was 2 hours, but I put in 11 in the next one so that tracks
willow valley
This is where the fun begins continues
solemn shell
spoilers!!!!!! i dont want to know that the sword they put in every fromsoft game is in the new fromsoft game
willow valley
Crazy
I just spent the past 7 hours trying to beat the greatest boss I have ever fought, and the pure elation I feel at having succeeded is indescribable
If y'all wanna hear the pop off
solemn shell
i am very excited in that case
vital schooner
rigid dune
They have done it again. They have made a good game.
upper bane
rigid dune
The tutorial boss has been gatekeeping ppl it seems.
upper bane
I passed it once I understood the game mechanics and Im just building Mechas
inner knoll
i'm not even mad about the copter boss, i'm more mad about a certain AC
how the fuck do they expect a player to get through their level without any checkpoints and THEN fighting the fucker
i'm trying all sorta builds rn
upper bane
how the fuck do they expect a player to get through their level without any chec...
this is just a Tuesday for From Software players ๐
inner knoll
idk it just doesn't feel right here
cuz the souls games all center around the concept of death and rebirth
meanwhile i'm just getting cooked while continuously being told i let my handler down
also there's just so much shit you gotta pay attention to
and at times i don't feel like i have any control over my character
THERE'S ANOTHER BOSS?? fuck off
willow valley
Like during posture break?
willow valley
THERE'S ANOTHER BOSS?? fuck off
You on the plant, aren't you
willow valley
I actually feel like the movement in ACVI is fucking amazing
inner knoll
i want to keep some degree of defense but i also want to be more agile to evade things better
cuz rn this level is chewing up my repair kits
it feels like i gotta give up one for the other
inner knoll
be fast and die fast or die slowly and painfully while just dealing a bit more damage
willow valley
Or you a lightweight that can dodge everything but gets smoked by anything more damaging than the wind
inner knoll
yeah
willow valley
I personally went with the lightweight approach
inner knoll
there's no inbetween it feels like
i'm trying to go with the basic kit i was given, except with a machine gun, but now the game really wants me to get rid of the plasma blade after it was introduced
game design :)))
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
and the second boss moves around so much that it feels rare that i get a good few hits in
and i can't change my build unless i wanna redo the whole fucking level again :))))
this is beyond running to the fog gate in dark souls
this is hell
willow valley
and i can't change my build unless i wanna redo the whole fucking level again :)...
Nah, you can change it in the death screen
inner knoll
NOT HERE APPARENTLY :)))))))
willow valley
inner knoll
i could do it at the juggernaut, but i can't here
that good ol fromsoftware quality amiright
fuck me
am i the only one who had this experience??? is the game bugged
willow valley
I dunno
inner knoll
kill me
i'm actuallly fucking stupid
i need to wait for the actual death screen not in the pause menu
willow valley
willow valley
Bal?
inner knoll
the missile shooting boss at the top of the plant
inner knoll
i genuinely feel like i'm throwing everything i have at the motherfucker and it barely even makes a DENT even when i get rid of the shield
willow valley
Are you using melee to drop the shield quickly?
willow valley
Do you have the energy for the dash in?
inner knoll
either because they're already beginning another sequence or something else
i mostly travel on the ground so maybe i could
idk
vital schooner
is there pvp in this game and if so is it good or is it shitty souls netplay pvp
willow valley
There is PvP, dunno about the netcode though
inner knoll
Do you have the energy for the dash in?
nah, still doesn't seem to do much good
i dash in but still get a million missiles to my face, wasting precious repair kits
i just don't know what build to use
am i missing something???
willow valley
I dunno, maybe send a clip of what you're doing?
willow valley
Make sure to spoiler it
inner knoll
also, my right analog stick may be broken
leading me to miss some crucial shots
fun :)))))))
willow valley
Are you not using tracking cam?
inner knoll
i'm trying
but it seems like the tracking thing untracks itself sometimes and if i don't use it every so often, i won't be able to SEE the next attack cuz of my fatass robot
the former may have to do with the analog stick
if i look randomly straight up, that's not me
even if the problem is me like
can you really blame me??
many other games allowed you to look at your surroundings even while locking on
... yeah no, you're not gonna see shit from this
lemme just create a drive link
willow valley
Aight
inner knoll
Aight
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVQguLvuUoI4dmiAVhf3N5WS8oKUDpsp/view?usp=sharing (spoilers, obviously)
willow valley
Are you overcapping your weight?
willow valley
I can send a vid of what I'm doing to kinda give you an idea if you want
inner knoll
sure i guess
i wanted to believe there's no answer to this fight but it sure feels like it
i love having my builds invalidated :)
willow valley
Our mechs are really different, but it should still apply
inner knoll
i mean, if you see how much shit i'm tanking, you can see why i wanted the extra armor
what's your loadout like? like your units
willow valley
I'm a lightweight reverse joint
inner knoll
yeah, but what are your weapons
inner knoll
i'm killing myself, i swear
now i gotta get a controller so soon after the first one in months
can't even get past sulla now cuz of the analog stick removing the lock on from him
fuck this game
willow valley
What controller are you using?
inner knoll
a standard modern Xbox one
willow valley
Odd
inner knoll
how so?
willow valley
I've been using a Ps4 controller for 8 years and I've had 0 problems with it so far
inner knoll
idk what i did to make it just
drift randomly
and i really don't wanna buy a new one so soon after buying this one
literal money thrown out the window
i could try buying an adapter for my Nintendo Switch Pro Controller, but i don't think i'll get my hands on one of those any time soon
probably have to order one online
but it's really fucking whatever
i don't want to blame my setup for everything
i just wanna find an answer to a this godforsaken level
even Sulla kinda feels like luck
i don't know what people have been smoking to have never played an armored core game in the past and praising it like it's god's gift to the earth
what am i not seeing
i don't even care about my build being invalidated anymore, i just wanna finish this piece of shit mission
whoever made that level should be shot
willow valley
Here we go
inner knoll
maybe i should actually switch off once i'm done with sull
because sulla just dodges everything beam related
fuck him
willow valley
Also, you can do past missions for money
inner knoll
yeah i know
i just wanted to muscle through it cuz i'm just fucking done with this boss so much
and the whole level
i can only curse the devs so much, man
inner knoll
am i just stupid
it may just be that
i don't know anymore
i want to finish this shit
willow valley
I think it's just a lack of familiarity
inner knoll
i don't know how familiar they want me to be
do i have to marry Bal for this bullshit?
is that it???
i'm going insane
this shouldn't be this hard
i know i can do this
but nothing i do feels like it matters
willow valley
From Software is pretty renowned for their difficulty
And Imo Armored Core is way more difficult that any of their Souls titles
rigid dune
Got the jug.
inner knoll
there's a difference between difficulty and challenge
difficulty is just a thing being hard
challenging is a hard thing that you find joy in overcoming
but i didn't feel that with things like Sulla or the copter
those felt like they were just hard for the sake of being hard
and now Bal is here
willow valley
I dunno, I've definitely found joy in overcomming the bosses of ACVI
inner knoll
i don't feel glad that it's over and that it kicked my ass, i feel bad that it ever happened
i just feel bitter afterwards
juggernaut's rythm was pretty satisfying to understand
but i don't see any of that with Bal
and any time i just wanna switch builds, it feels like another language
half the time i don't know if i should blame the game or the build
vital schooner
yo you guys going to share what yall mechs look like or what
i wanna see some dank ass paint jobs
inner knoll
sure
willow valley
yo you guys going to share what yall mechs look like or what
I thought I had, but okay
rigid dune
Nice. I am looking to swap in reverse joint soon.
willow valley
Nice. I am looking to swap in reverse joint soon.
Reverse joints are actually so insanely good
rigid dune
willow valley
Funky
rigid dune
It's the hippie core.
willow valley
Clean
rigid dune
I picked parts to enable fashion core.
vital schooner
https://i.imgur.com/KPrjide.jpeg
frosty
willow valley
I really like how you can tell an AC's weight class by the parts
rigid dune
tbh, mine looks like a sundae special from baskin robbins.
inner knoll
mine's just kinda meh
this is just kinda temporary, otherwise i'd have reverse joints as well lol
needed it for the EN load
rigid dune
What's the gameplan for your builds? I just unload missiles, charge plasma shot and that + some stray shots break poise and then it's sword + unload missiles. Rinse repeat till they die.
inner knoll
unloading my right hand unit, missiles, sword when in melee range, that sorta thing
willow valley
Use speed to position into melee hits in order to get big damage and when unable to do that take pot shots with laser gun
inner knoll
usually using my missiles as a sort of extender for when i run out of bullets and need to reload
or if i'm about to run out
rigid dune
Use speed to position into melee hits in order to get big damage and when unable...
Interesting, do you have something that let's you melee constantly? Coz the plasma sword is on a huge cooldown.
So I only use it on big openings.
Or if they have high poise and I don't need it for stagger.
inner knoll
don't think there are any more swords for your left hand
maybe an OST chip could be there? idk
willow valley
Interesting, do you have something that let's you melee constantly? Coz the plas...
Nah, I just kinda keep track of when/if it's on cooldown and if it isn't when there's an opportunity to use it, I swing
rigid dune
Trying to S rank some of these missions is gonna be a pian.
willow valley
don't think there are any more swords for your left hand
There's like 7-8 melees
willow valley
Nah, you just kinda get them as you go along
inner knoll
uh huh
jesus fuck, it's almost 11 PM
and i played 8 hours on this bitch, so i can't even refund it
bastards
inner knoll
Trying to S rank some of these missions is gonna be a pian.
fuck the S ranks, i'm fighting for my life over here-
willow valley
So, Specter, I'm reviewing this footage and I've noticed some things after a couple watches
- You're approaching the boss with Assault Boost a lot and that's getting you caught out a lot due to not having the energy to dodge afterwards
- You're not using the focus targeting which allows the game to do a lot of the work for you and allows you focus on movement/dodging more
inner knoll
it's just muscle memory from past games with lock on functions
i personally find it stupid
they all function roughly the same
but nah
AC6 had to be special
willow valley
What like MH lockon?
inner knoll
oh yeah, it's such a good lock on that it is non existent lmao
or at least that's how it was in Rise, i think
willow valley
Nah, it's there in Rise
willow valley
Like, it's there, it's an option to use
inner knoll
even a friend confirmed this who has been playing MH for forever
oh my fucking god
WHY IS IT HIDDEN
dumbass devs
but i'm talking more about things like Zelda and some Souls titles afaik have it as well
but the analog stick is so close to the face buttons that i just can't help but brush against it seemingly instinctively
willow valley
No, Souls titles use the same lock on as the focus cam from ACVI
inner knoll
at least you got a better look at your opponent
meanwhile in AC it takes a moment for the cinematic angle to set up
which in a game with bosses this frantic could make or break a run
i just never trusted it
willow valley
It's pretty good in my experience
inner knoll
only time i found it useful was when i was on flat shallow water against Sulla and we just exchanged shots
that's it
that's my one positive experience
but even then
Sulla stll feels obnoxious
and now this stupid analog stick isDRIFTING
randomly upward
making me miss shots anyway
all these problems just soured the experience for me tonight
i'll admit, my usage of the energy bar was shit
but i dislike the lock on mechanic here
am i just bitter for no reason???
cuz everyone still praises this game around me
willow valley
inner knoll
i completed like
2 fromsoft games before this, both a few times
but i just end up feeling overwhelmed by the amount of things some bosses demand of me
AND I BARELY EVEN MADE IT PAST BAL
i don't even know how many bosses there are in total
willow valley
At least 3 really difficult ones
inner knoll
i was about to say if this is the metric that AC6 will work with, i'm not gonna complete it in 15-20 hours
i'm just
so tired
souls games did that to me too, but they were never this much of a pain in the rectum
y'all just out here make it sound like they're not noteworthy at all
or maybe i'm just a sore loser bitch like always
willow valley
souls games did that to me too, but they were never this much of a pain in the r...
?
inner knoll
like
making me feel tired after an encounter and must take a break
but this is the first time i felt this helpless
willow valley
Nah, I had to take multiple breaks during some of the later bosses, the game is hard as fuck
inner knoll
i guess i'm just the only one who's this vocal about it
i thought i could feel like a bit of a badass for once after countless encounters with fantastical beasts, but nah
it ain't even the fact that this game is not a soulslike, just the fact that it's so different and so difficult at the same time
and i just feel overwhelmed by the potential builds i could use to take on a particular mission or boss
because in any game with such build variety, there's bound to be some sort of meta
willow valley
Oh yeah, the cutomization in Armored Core titles is absolutely amazing
willow valley
because in any game with such build variety, there's bound to be some sort of me...
Well yeah, there's going to be different METAs for each weight class of each leg type at least
inner knoll
it happened with elden ring and the fact that magic was so OP and the meta was so tightly knit because of that is why i disliked elden ring as a whole
treating it like a souls game was a mistake, but i just realized i just don't like this direction for a game with a similar formula to dark souls
feels like a fantasy game with a soulslike coat of paint
and the thought of my build in AC6 being potentially bad against a certain enconter, forcing me to go into a completely different direction and learning a whole new kit feels daunting
and it's a shame i realized this so late, cuz now i can't refund the damn game
willow valley
I mean, I don't think your build is bad, I would just say it's underdeveloped at the moment
inner knoll
i'm still getting the hang of whatever shit i buy i just don't know what synergizes with what
and i don't wanna spend 90% of my playthrough in the fucking training room
i wanna go out and explore the lore and the relationships and whatever the fuck else is happening on Rubicon
but the game is just not built that way
but now i don't wanna put the damn game down that i forked over my hard earned money for
fucking hell
the weight cap is also a pretty big bottleneck
willow valley
Definitely
inner knoll
i'm trying my best to stay midweight but certain weapons just consume way too much of my overall load and EN load
willow valley
My own AC is currently riding the weight and energy caps
inner knoll
so i have to get rid of some heavier machinery but in turn sacrificing defense
and i don't know if that's good for the encounter i'm up against in the moment
the game gives vague hints about how your build mightbe holding you back but each time i feel like what i'm doing is just incorrect
juggernaut was the one time i thought i had found a pretty good stagger build for
cuz the fucker is slow
kind of
willow valley
I think the biggest thing holding you back is the shoulder cannon
inner knoll
i'm trying to see if i can get big damage but idk
shield i never use but without any sort of other appendage i feel naked
willow valley
I would honestly just equip another missile launcher
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
for some reason i kinda feel ashamed for asking for help
cuz i feel like the game is trying to give you the satisfaction by having you win with the build you like
but the builds i have been using up to this point ended up being shit against this one guy so like
fuck me i guess, fromsoft lol
willow valley
The boss is also just really difficult, especially the first time around
inner knoll
i really don't like the homing missiles on this one
i found myself poisebroken so many times before this
or the larger glowing rocket the game gives a warning sound for
SPEAKING OF
Sulla's rocket comes out so fast that you can barely even react to the damn thing
cuz by the time the warning sound goes off, his rocket has already made contact with your face
willow valley
You definitely gotta be on point
inner knoll
i just
fuck these two bosses man
i can't even imagine what other bullshit fromsoft thought up
willow valley
It gets really crazy
inner knoll
cool 
i just hope they'll be clearer with their visuals and actually look sick instead of
whatever the fuck Bal was
a weird gundam man with rings that can dispense missiles
okay the concept is cool but fuck the boss battle itself
||and fuck the shield||
willow valley
Oh yeah, how well you can deal with it basically determines how hard the fight is
inner knoll
yeah
i had times where i could rush his ass down and remove the shield but then completely lose my flow afterwards
best i did was half health on my latest attempt
white plover
Stuck on Balteus
willow valley
Spoiler
solemn shell
does anyone know how to apply custom decals to your ac
willow valley
Should be the second option in the assembly thing
solemn shell
oh
willow valley
You just gotta go to the Custom 1 group
solemn shell
you can go farther than presets 1 2 and 3
for some reason i assumed it stopped at 3
willow valley
willow valley
solemn shell
the name is too big for the game so i just did missing-mobile
rigid dune
it looks so good
This will scramble even the most sophisticated FCS.
rigid dune
Sulla is pretty cool.
willow valley
You boutta hit a really good fight
rigid dune
Need to retune my loadout now. I have been kinda brute forcing so far, but I think time to build something good.
Sulla killed me.
willow valley
rigid dune
Need to ditch these rocket launchers.
willow valley
Shoulder or primary?
solemn shell
why is this such an annoying fight
willow valley
What is
solemn shell
i am not enjoying ||balteus||
i have no idea how to dodge like 80% of the attacks
and i havent even gotten to a second phase yet
willow valley
It seems that they're generally pretty decisive, you either love them or hate them
solemn shell
maybe it depends on your loadout
willow valley
Maybe
solemn shell
if so, my loadout is not up to par
i just tried a different one and it has more fast of damage output but it runs out of ammo too fast
willow valley
Are you making use of your melee?
solemn shell
im not using one for the fight cause he's so fast you cant really use it
willow valley
You need to use one
rigid dune
Aight, I am at what I am presuming the chapter 1 gatekeeper.
Cool fight.
Yeah, I need different shoulder launchers.
solemn shell
my shoulders are my only actually good weapons
rigid dune
i have no idea how to dodge like 80% of the attacks
You can assault boost when it does the massive missile surge.
solemn shell
and its just what you start with
willow valley
Yeah, I need different shoulder launchers.
You on the watchtower mission?
solemn shell
You can assault boost when it does the massive missile surge.
oh thats super helpful actually, thats the attack i do the worst missing
dodging*
willow valley
I just kinda quick boost around and it works
rigid dune
The risk is that you might eat a couple of potshots when you are flying and might have to switch to quick boost evasion.
But in general, this seems to be like a fight where you just wanna stay in.
Sword does yuuuge damage.
And it's poise seems low.
willow valley
Yeah
rigid dune
It just has a looot of hp.
This is actually a difficult mission if you actually try to one shot it without dying.
Sulla eats up a lot of ammo. But you do get supply before the boss. 
willow valley
I've done it, takes like 8 minutes in one shot
rigid dune
Music is a bit meh. I liked the sulla boss fight theme.
willow valley
Extremely familiar with it
rigid dune
Is that the one that took 7 hours?
willow valley
Music is a bit meh. I liked the sulla boss fight theme.
I actually really like Bals theme
willow valley
Is that the one that took 7 hours?
Nope
vital schooner
any ac music i should add to my fighting game playlist
rigid dune
So far, it's been pretty nice, but nothing stands out.
solemn shell
oh thats super helpful actually, thats the attack i do the worst missing
that does not work actually
the homing is so aggressive that it just curves back around and hits you
rigid dune
You have to time it a bit. YOu have to wait for the missiles to kinda start curving. You can dodge the direct ones and then start assault boosting.
Have to shake of the souls instinct a little bit. I keeping hitting the roll button for quick boost.
willow valley
The best description for AC fights in ACVI is that they're "Dragon Ball fights," which is just absolutely amazing
solemn shell
i can see the resemblance
very cinematic for sure
all of them except this one have been fun too
willow valley
They were more referring to the speed
rigid dune
I like these gatekeepy boss fights. Otherwise I will never learn the mechanis.
willow valley
Oh yeah, the boss fights really help you improve and refine your skills
I just started NG+ and so far I've done it hitless
solemn shell
I like these gatekeepy boss fights. Otherwise I will never learn the mechanis.
yeah i think im just not clicking with the combat just yet
solemn shell
im getting the hang of the fight
switched my right hand weapon to one that does lots of shield damage
willow valley
Cool
willow valley
I don't get the comparison, do you mind elaborating?
solemn shell
oh uh
in sekiro when i first fought demon of hatred
it was absolutely miserable the entire time
and then i finally beat him, and that final fight was one of the best video game experiences of my life
everything just finally clicked and it felt amazing
solemn shell
btw im trying out some treads now with double miniguns and its really fun ngl
willow valley
I just be waiting to hear that someone is using Quads
vital schooner
i was miserable in sekiro till i found out you cant play the game like a dark souls
willow valley
Those look really interesting, but they don't particularly interest me, so I'm just kinda waiting for someone else to use them and let me know how it goes
solemn shell
i was miserable in sekiro till i found out you cant play the game like a dark so...
im kinda trying to play this game like sekiro and it aint working
its hard to get rid of habits though
willow valley
Oh yeah nah, you gotta play it like it's Gen 4 AC
solemn shell
especially when sekiro was what i last played
solemn shell
Oh yeah nah, you gotta play it like it's Gen 4 AC
yeah i never ended up actually playing that
willow valley
To quote RoR2 "Speed is war,"
vital schooner
imagine being able to play one of the older ACs
solemn shell
speed is indeed war
this is so much not souls
and i love that
i was afraid they were just gonna make souls but with mechs
solemn shell
yeah thats why i was afraid
willow valley
But instead we got a proper Armored Core title, and it's fucking amazing
tepid dome
I love going back between old time shinobi era katana wielding styled Japan and Titanfall 2 but with more explosions
willow valley
So I made the mistake of looking at the negative steam reviews
And holy shit the amount of dumbasses comparing the game to Souls titles in incredible
tepid dome
FromSoft title โ Souls-like
I understand why some people might think that but they're just doing their thing
willow valley
They just kinda throwing older titles around and saying it's bad because it's different
vital schooner
my friend wasnt originally going to get it cuz he was under the impression it was suppose to b a souls like and the video footage he saw wasnt. told him its its own game and the devs said straight up its not like their recent titles
now hes enjoying it
willow valley
Yeah, I don't get why ACVI being it's own thing is such a hard concept for people to grasp
solemn shell
the way tank treads drive is so satisfying
inner knoll
drifting tanks is not an everyday sight
solemn shell
it is when you live in rubicon
inner knoll
true
solemn shell
i think this is pretty good
only thing that keeps it from just being optimus is the treads
inner knoll
okay now i'm really starting to feel hopeless
i slept on it and i still don't know how to deal with Bal
i tried engaging them head on, i tried engaging them from a distance
nothing fucking works
i just get staggered to hell and back
dodge does fucking nothing
i have to tank a good amount of hits
using melee chews up a portion of my energy bar so i can't dodge afterwards
i'm just lost at this point
and there's a second fucking phase where he gets a blade of flame of his own
fucking kill me
inner knoll
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?????!!
most consistently i could only get the damn thing to half health is like
shotgun, double purple missile, plasma blade + double jointsลฑ
but by the time i get there i had wasted all of my repair kits
and i keep getting decked in the face by the larger missile, staggering me
there's no rythm to this thing
it's just bullshit to bullshit each turn
i never touch the analog stick and it still sometimes gets rid of the lock on
first people tell me not to use assault boost but if i don't i fucking tank a million missiles
inner knoll
y'all motherfuckers lied, the missiles just don't whiff
i still get cucked even while assault boosting
i swear to god i'm looking up a tutorial at this point
this boss is fucking aids
solemn shell
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?????!!
exactly what i was thinking
its just a gatekeeper boss
once you figure it out the rest of the game will be easier too
i cant really give specific advice though
you just kinda figure it out eventually
inner knoll
i'm looking up a tutorial, i just can't do anything
and my controller is still broken but i don't wanna disassemble the damn thing to potentially make it worse
solemn shell
i use kbm personally
inner knoll
what's kbm
solemn shell
keyboard and mouse
inner knoll
ah
solemn shell
its not bad
probably one of the best kbm implementations ive seen in a fromsoft game
inner knoll
idk, i've been so used to the shoulder and trigger buttons
it just works
it's good
but like
i don't know man
solemn shell
its just a hard boss you'll get it eventually
inner knoll
i really don't wanna look at a tutorial because then i'm fucking up the experience for myself
Sulla is now a cakewalk with double missile and reverse joints
but Balteus is still so fucking obnoxious
and i still have yet to learn the SECOND FUCKING PHASE
solemn shell
so uh
you should save your missiles for when the shield is down most of the time
and use your sword mostly to get the shield down
or you can do what i did and get the plasma gun thing, it takes down the shields pretty fast
inner knoll
you mean regular missile or purple one
cuz i'm using double purple missile
solemn shell
i dont know what purple missile is ive been doing normal missile
inner knoll
one that shoots into the sky and then comes down a few seconds later
it just shoots 5 ionstead of four
solemn shell
i cant give you advice on dodging attacks cause i just kinda spammed the dodge button and it more or less worked
for the missile that staggers you, theres a certain timing for dodging it
theres a beep sound that tells you its coming, and you dodge after that
inner knoll
and now i think i smashed it permanently cuz of how much i was smacking my hand against it and throwing it onto the bed
inner knoll
for the missile that staggers you, theres a certain timing for dodging it
i know that one but sometimes he uses it when i'm in sniffing distance
solemn shell
yeah for that all i can say is dont be that close when he isnt stunned
im still not entirely sure what his guaranteed openings are
but if you can find them you can also be that close during one of them
inner knoll
im still not entirely sure what his guaranteed openings are
SEE THAT'S THE THING
NOTHING IS CLEAR ABOUT THE BOSS
solemn shell
i think thats just armored core in general tbh
inner knoll
how do people enjoy this shit
solemn shell
idk i havent played the other games
i did enjoy balteus when i started figuring out the patterns though
solemn shell
theres definitely patterns
like 3 or 4, not very many
you'll figure them out eventually
inner knoll
and now i think i smashed it permanently cuz of how much i was smacking my hand ...
killing myself fr
i'm not doing those r-stick motions upwards
i just wanna be done with this thing already
this is one of the most consistently unenjoyable messes of videogames i've ever played
inner knoll
you'll figure them out eventually
no i really don't get it
i need answers
this is just not fun
it feels like anything i try gets invalidated
the gatling gun gets activated randomly and i gotta tank a few of the starting hits for that
he constantly moves around making it difficult to hit good plasma blade hits and if you miss you sometimes get PUNISHED for it
the missiles are my biggest issue tho
you can get combo'd by them sometimes, forcing you to retreat and rebuild your stance
otherwise you just get poise broken if you stubbornly approach
there's so many annoying little details about the boss that it just feels inconsistent and bullshit
it's either my playstyle or my build that's the problem, but the boss feels so inconsistent that i don't know which one!
you see what i mean???
i justz keep on second guessing myself
i'm genuinely going insane
nothing so simple in concept was this demanding and people keep downplaying it like it's nothing
inner knoll
i managed to find a thing that takes out specifically the shield but holy fuck that second phase
and i'm still wasting precious repair kits
inner knoll
I ALMOST COULD'VE ENDED IT
I GOT HIM TO LITERAL PIXEL HEALTH AND THEN HE GOT HIS SHIELD UP
i'm breaking something today i swear
inner knoll
FUCKING FINALLY
whoever designed this boss should be shot
i'm just mad that this thing exists
jesus fucking christ
9+ hours and it's not even a good boss
9 hours and two days i'm never getting back
fuck balteus
plucky gate
Y'all wish you could
willow valley
No actually, I don't think I do
inner knoll
scratch that, i found the actual worst boss
||Carla||
they're not even hard, just really tanky and have really small weak spots
i usually end up dying only after i ran out of ammo or purposefully killed myself cuz the build is subpar
vital schooner
I'm staying spoiler free so I don't want people to elaborate but holy shit ||my twitter for the last two days is people talking about how they are getting ass blasted by someone whose name is belteus or something like that ||
willow valley
The first wall, ||Balteus||
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
I'm staying spoiler free so I don't want people to elaborate but holy shit ||my ...
so it's not just me, thank god
when some of the first things i see when i look up a boss fight is how to beat them the easiest way, i can't say i'm hopeful
inner knoll
oh my god lmao
can't believe the ||Sea Spider|| is the gatekeeper to playing online lol
rigid dune
Yeah, balt puts up a fight against even the anti-balt build. Though that mgiht just be bad. Dual pulse rifles with plasma sword in the weapon bay + plasma missiles.
inner knoll
tank seems to do pretty well in most situations cuz of the gigantic load
rigid dune
Gonna throw myselves at balteus for an hour and then go sleep.
willow valley
Gonna throw myselves at balteus for an hour and then go sleep.
How'd it go?
eager gyro
double shotguns with double songbirds fucks
inner knoll
double songbirds is wacky
willow valley
Just cleared NG+
rigid dune
How'd it go?
Close, but no cigar. I am almost there with a bazooka + dual missiles + sword build. Keep losing to the last pulse shield phase. Like 20% HP left on Balt.
willow valley
Damn, sounds rough
rigid dune
The build is really good at staggering and damage when the bazooka lands. But it's really hard to get it to work.
willow valley
Are you using quad legs?
rigid dune
Nah, reverse joint. Need the mobility. It's a hit and run build. I find an opening to fire the bazooka and the arm launchers in the midst of chaos and then keep moving.
willow valley
I see
rigid dune
It does like a solid 20% everytime I stagger correctly. i.e sword off cool down and I am not too far off.
willow valley
Perhaps Quad legs would help, since you take no knockback from firing bigger weapons
rigid dune
Probably should try quads for funsies anyway.
But i am calling it a night. Think I can wrap this up tomorrow.
inner knoll
kind of decided to "cheese" the second wall of the game (if you know you know)
inner knoll
||sea spider||
willow valley
Oh
willow valley
You just dual wield guns and the fight basically does itself in my experience
inner knoll
tanktreads, dual gatling guns, dual songbirds
still required a handful of tries before i got its ass
cuz 1. never played with tank treads
2. knew pretty much nothing except that it's considered difficult
and the impact damage on these is wacky
inner knoll
the big lasers from when it takes off took me a few tries before i realized i gotta hop over a shockwave
solemn shell
like tank treads but for the air
its great being able to use stuff like gatling guns and keep aerial mobility at the same time
willow valley
Tank Treads but good cool
inner knoll
yea i should grind for em too
solemn shell
Tank Treads but ~~good~~ cool
they're both good imo
inner knoll
should've used it for ||the RaD Cleaner||
willow valley
they're both good imo
I feel like they just leave you too immobile for a lot of the harder challenges the game has, especially in comparison to Quads
solemn shell
i still need to try out reverse joint, havent used any
and theres lots of weapons i should try
inner knoll
that was a fun fight
meh, i'm not a fan of that one
it's most of my boss pet peeves in one package
solemn shell
and i need to figure out new shoulder launchers too cause all i have is the one you start with and two heavy ten-cell launchers
willow valley
Plasma Missile Launchers: 
inner knoll
weapon bay also allows you to swap weapons at the cost of shoulder weapons
solemn shell
might end up getting weapon bay and putting some alternate weapons on my shoulders
but ive done all my arena quests so i cant really get more chips until i finish the chapter
and that means i need to do like 3 more missions first
at least that many
probably more tbh
inner knoll
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i'm only at the beginning part of chapter 3, right after the last boss of 2
willow valley
The game actually ends up giving you an excessive amount of OST points in NG+
I have maxxed out everything important, and I have 17 points left over, it's insane
inner knoll
pretty cool that the game actually is a tiny bit different in NG+
solemn shell
i'm only at the beginning part of chapter 3, right after the last boss of 2
same
willow valley
I'm gonna go through NG++ tomorrow to see if there's anything different
And if there isn't
I'm gonna do PvP
inner knoll
oh yeah
inner knoll
kinda wack that you unlock online so late
well it feels late, cuz i was stuck on 2 of the bosses lmao
inner knoll
i mean, you do get more shit to buy as you go on
willow valley
kinda wack that you unlock online so late
well it feels late, cuz i was stuck o...
Its to let you gear up and refine your Mech before getting into it
inner knoll
ye
solemn shell
yeah having pvp with just turner and butta would be a bit weird
is there a coop of any kind in the game
inner knoll
thank god there are no emotes (yet)
inner knoll
is there a coop of any kind in the game
don't think so
willow valley
is there a coop of any kind in the game
Nope, unfortunately not
inner knoll
maybe in an update?
solemn shell
maybe
willow valley
I wouldn't be surprised if it was modded in at some point
inner knoll
we had seamless co-op for elden ring, idk how far the servers are allowed to be pushed
solemn shell
i mean
theres some missions where other ACs help you
so i could see them updating it
inner knoll
yeah, they're in-lore allies tho
solemn shell
feels like something fromsoft would like to add first though?
willow valley
Just doesn't seem like the type of game where co-op would work
solemn shell
well thats what i was saying, they proved that coop does work because of the ACs that help you
willow valley
Not to mention additional allies would probably be really busted for sequence breaking
solemn shell
how do you sequence break a mission-based game
willow valley
Doing multiple objectives at once
Standing near triggers and then doing the requirements
solemn shell
oh sequence breaking an individual mission, i was thinking of like going to missions that arent supposed to be available
solemn shell
who knows theres some crazy stuff in games
you can like literally code in ocarina of time
willow valley
Just choose different descision missions
inner knoll
was thinking maybe you could simply request backup with an item before a sortie
and those who are willing could wait in the garage until they connect to someone or smth idk
willow valley
Yeah, I could see a joint mission starting system working
inner knoll
kinda like the Hunter system from elden ring
solemn shell
which is like the blue system from other souls games
inner knoll
ye
solemn shell
its either way of blue or blue sentinels i dont rember which
maybe both
that seems like it would work with ac6
oh and invading
invading would honestly be pretty cool
you can have covenants be the different corps and stuff
willow valley
Invading would be really weird
solemn shell
if you're part of one corp you can only invade rival corps and stuff like that
i mean
theres some AC fights in levels
just normally
it would be like that except more unexpected
inner knoll
aren't you supposed to be independent-
solemn shell
well uhhh
crap
well maybe you can get jobs from certain corps to stop another corp from invading them with an AC
inner knoll
hence why you help one corporation in one mission and then destroy them the next
solemn shell
it wouldnt work nearly as well as souls
inner knoll
game's very linear in its storytellin, i don't know if that would work
solemn shell
you cant really do the invader thing of using the environment and stuff to your advantage
well you can but its harder
it probably wouldnt owrk
willow valley
I think just having arena PvP is enough to sate most players desire for combat
inner knoll
yep
inner knoll
yea
i think it would be best if they at least somewhat differentiated themselves from souls stuff
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
the only soulsbornekiro ring thing i can think of is the challenging boss encounters and the stance bar
inner knoll
yea is nice
willow valley
Not just in boss fights, but just moving around levels
inner knoll
you can drift the tank ๐
willow valley
Going from quick boosting in the air to landing on a platform into a quick turn to destroy an enemy back into quick boosting is a level of fluidity I didn't know I needed in my life
inner knoll
gotta invest in more system unlocks ngl
i got the kick and the weapon bay and that's kinda it
willow valley
Get damage reductions and damage boosts
inner knoll
reductions, as in resistance?
willow valley
Yeah
inner knoll
ahh ok
willow valley
There's an OS upgrade that gives you up to a 15% damage resistance
inner knoll
huh
wgy didn't i see that before-
oh well might as well
i got terminal armor and it did come in handy a total of
one time lmao
basically the sturdy ability from pokemon
willow valley
Honestly, the only core upgrade that seems worth the while is the explosion one
inner knoll
oh yeah, the one that deflects projectiles, right?
willow valley
Yeah, but it also just does a lot of damage
inner knoll
drip update
willow valley
Looking good
willow valley
Sounds interesting
inner knoll
i'm prolly gonna need more rockets in one of my slots cuz it only seemed to have performed exceptionally well against grounded foes or less agile ones
rose oracle
armored core is really fun
willow valley
Fr
rose oracle
its gundam, who doesn't want to play as a giant robot
willow valley
I'm on NG++ and still having an absolute blast with the game
I also decided to name my AC
rose oracle
theres only one difficulty right?
willow valley
Yeah
rose oracle
whats the best long range rifle
willow valley
Depends, do you want to use kinetic or energy weapons?
rose oracle
i got the laser shotgun, handgun and rockets
rose oracle
Depends, do you want to use kinetic or energy weapons?
kinetic
willow valley
Lemme check the arsenal rq
rose oracle
im using the burst assult rifle right now
but i wanna know if theres something better cause it feels alright
rose oracle
the linear rifle is a kinetic gun?
i thought it was energy since you could charge it
willow valley
Nope, it's kinetic