From Software

[willow valley]

I legit just don't lock on for first phase

[vital schooner]

you didnt lock on during that fight did you?

cuz if so you are a braver man that i am

[trail oxide]

First phase wasn't bad, it was the second

I couldn't see shit

[trail oxide]

I might have...

[slow cobalt]

you guys didn’t lock on?

whoops

[willow valley]

[vital schooner]

as a rule of thumb i dont lock on any boss thats 3 times taller than i am

[slow cobalt]

It didn’t cross my mind

[vital schooner]

thats been a thing since dark souls 1 for me

[trail oxide]

I tried to not lock on but I didn't like it

[slow cobalt]

Literally the only souls boss I will not lock on for is nameless king first phase

I’ll take off lock sometimes for others, but storm king is actually impossible to fight with the lock on

[trail oxide]

Is that a challenge?

[vital schooner]

locking on and not locking on is really only a thing in bloodborne

[slow cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-dont-try-it-ewan-mc-gregor-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-7971802

[vital schooner]

since it changes the way you dodge

[trail oxide]

I will when I play it

[slow cobalt]

I didn’t learn that until after I had already gotten the plat

And put like 200+ hours in

[vital schooner]

lol

[trail oxide]

How do people prefer fighting the fire giant on horseback that seems awful

[slow cobalt]

I mean I beat defiled amygdala locked on for most the fight, so 🤷‍♂️

[slow cobalt]

Hit n run

[trail oxide]

Although I just despise fighting on torrent so that could just be me

[slow cobalt]

It is awful, but doing it on foot is even worse

[trail oxide]

Cowards fr

[slow cobalt]

Did you beat him with a bleed weapon?

[trail oxide]

/s

[vital schooner]

you guys seen any rando runs ?

[trail oxide]

Nope

[slow cobalt]

Based

[trail oxide]

With the commanders standard

It doesn't proc anything

[slow cobalt]

Bleed weapons are so broken in ER

[trail oxide]

I stay away from bleed weapons

[slow cobalt]

even more broken than in DS1

[vital schooner]

seeing the fire giant in rennala phase 1 room is the funniest thing ever

[trail oxide]

Mostly because the cool ones don't use bleed

[slow cobalt]

My first run I tried using only big str weapons

But then I got to Godskin duo and rage-reset

And went dex bleed build

[trail oxide]

That's what I'm going rn

[slow cobalt]

Then went back and did a dual cgs build and beat the game again like that

[trail oxide]

Well, was? Commanders Standard isn't a big str weapon, just a str weapon.

[slow cobalt]

What is commanders standard?

The flag?

[trail oxide]

Although I do use the big fire hammer ever once in a while

[trail oxide]

Yeah

[slow cobalt]

Oh yeah

Nah I tried to beat fire giant for the first time with the Smough Lava Hammer

It woulda been more efficient to nibble on his ankles

[trail oxide]

Despite how good the aow is on it I always forget about it

I never really use aows

[slow cobalt]

Big hammer smash is all you need

Until you get to Godskin duo

[trail oxide]

Outside of the flip move on the great sword when I feel like being a devious little creature

[slow cobalt]

Dual Ruin Colossal GS is where it’s at tbh

[trail oxide]

I thank God every day for me wanting to complete more shit before going to Farum Azula so I can prolong this fight

[slow cobalt]

Good

Godskin and everything after is what stops me from every replaying ER

[trail oxide]

I haven't even gotten past Margit on my other runs

I just get bored and go back to my main one

Because strength is funnier

I'll continue my Griffith build eventually, though

One day

[slow cobalt]

Str is so fun in ER

[trail oxide]

Real

[slow cobalt]

tho it’s really hard to play with imo

Like I struggled so much on my first run

[trail oxide]

Some fights really suck with it yeah

Or lacking range

Like the fire giant rolled away every time I got close

[slow cobalt]

All the enemies fight like Bloodborne hunters

[trail oxide]

Or that Caria Study Hall bullshit

Anyways, Imma pass out now

Cya gamers later

[slow cobalt]

Later

[summer valley]

I leveled up endurance like fuck just so I could spend most of the fight chasing my opponent 🥲

[trail oxide]

[trail oxide]

The fucking town to get to the halig tree is fucking stupid and I fucking hate it

Fuck this stupid fucking area

[vital schooner]

fuck the last 25% of the entire game tbh

[summer valley]

literally mindnumbing

I am fully convinced that they didn't balance that area at all

all the black knives have SO much health and damage

not to mention the fucking archers

[trail oxide]

I actually refuse to do this fuck Mohg and Malenia

[summer valley]

Mohg isn't there

You get to him via a different place in consecrated snowfield

Do you want tips for the town?

[trail oxide]

Oh

[trail oxide]

Sure

I only did it twice then hopped on Sea of Thieves so zero progress was made

[summer valley]

Firstly you'll want to get the sentry torch, which reveals invisible enemies

Secondly, grab a bow/crossbow

Your first step should be drawing the aggro of the two archers nearest the spawn towards the east facing stairs behind the spawn

That way they won't bother you anymore

After that it's pretty much just avoiding the assassins and lighting towers

The trick is not fighting

Also the towers stay lit if you die

So you can get 2/4, die, and still have 2/4 lit

[willow valley]

I legit just planned out a route I run for the town, it's made it much easier

[slow cobalt]

100% agree

[slow cobalt]

Also true

[trail oxide]

Thanks

[bitter sundial]

Literally the reason why ER isn't my favorite game yet, the endgame is so rushed it's unreal

[vital schooner]

i dont think its rushed, the areas are still cool and fun to explore

just they turned up the difficulty to absolute unfun levels

[bitter sundial]

True fr fr. Tho it's not just the difficulty, the events happening in the game also suffer from it. You beat Morgott, then the old lady at the Hold is is like : "Bro you need Destined Death, you know, this vague thing that we teased at the start of the game and in an obscure sidequest than most players have missed" , "Wait what , Why would I need..." "STFU and just go grab it okay". Then 10 minutes later you have the most anticlimactic sacrifice ever, followed by a nonsensical warp to Farum. You get the two worst bosses in the game back to back (Fire Giant + GS duo). Beast Clergyman is there, but still in Caelid after you kill him, and I'm still waiting for a good reason behind that lol. Another pointless and unexplained warp, then Gideon betrays you... for some reason ??? His logic makes no sense at all : "You will never succeed in killing god, so I need to kill you first myself." ? Yeah flawless logic there Gideon. Then freaking Godfrey just shows up out of nowhere without any foreshadowing whatsoever. Then there's the weird and awkward Hoarah Loux "reveal"... Yeah who is this dude again ?

idk it just feels like they ran out of time and crammed everything together hastily, the rythm is awful

[vital schooner]

i have never been able to follow any lore in any souls games

so ill take your word for it. i just explore and kill boss

i followed bloodborne though !

[bitter sundial]

Based and Bloodpilled

[vital schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-whats-that-smell-sniff-smile-plague-of-gripes-gif-17858074

[bitter sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQdb0fQozg&list=LL&index=1

https://tenor.com/view/vince-vince-mcmahon-gif-20562072

[summer valley]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-fish-fish-mouth-open-gif-17487624

[vital schooner]

so unno how much you guys know about from soft streamers but i thought it was funny that one of them called lil aggy knows he wont get views streaming totk and competing with the top streamers so hes playing an elden ring mod that gives weapon durability like in zelda and calling it his zelda playthrough

[willow valley]

Personally I prefer Altus Plateau theme

[trail oxide]

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-serious-gif-15710427

[willow valley]

He just like that cat fr

[trail oxide]

[bitter sundial]

"Excuse me, he said no spirit summons"

[summer valley]

Well guess what

Too bad

[vital schooner]

so there is a rumour

that next week state of play for sony they are going to reveal a sekiro anime

[trail oxide]

It's true actually my dad works for Mojang

He told me so

[vital schooner]

https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1660129358235996161?t=Z1a-vLrM5_5P3nafdm5yEw&s=19

Lance McDonald (@manfightdragon)

Bloodborne: The Old Hunters Edition running on PC spotted.

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[willow valley]

Wow

[ebon bay]

Don't do that to me

Don't give me hope

[willow valley]

Heop

[willow valley]

I think I follow that guy on TikTok

[vital schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw_Lskv6ZjQ

does this count

[willow valley]

No

[vital schooner]

are you sure though

this is lords of the fallen

not the lords of the fallen

so its much closer in design

[willow valley]

Maybe so, but it's not made by From Software

[vital schooner]

think we are seeing bloodborne or armoured core 6 in 45 minutes?

[bitter sundial]

what happun in 45 minutes

[vital schooner]

sony state of play

they havnt done one like this since 2021

[willow valley]

Oh, cool

[bitter sundial]

Y'all be hoping for AC(6), meanwhile i'm thirsty for some AC(8) news

[vital schooner]

🤢

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-combat-gif-23964397

[vital schooner]

oh

ace combat

i thought you were talking about assassins creed

[willow valley]

You say that like I should want AC6 news

[bitter sundial]

of course

how could you understand it for AC and not AC

it makes perfect sense

[willow valley]

It's so obvious

[viscid cedar]

another year, another playstation showcase where we hope for Bloodborne

[bitter sundial]

ayo anyone got a link to a stream

cant find shit on youtube

[vital schooner]

im watching a restream react

[willow valley]

https://www.twitch.tv/playstation

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/epico-cat-epico-cat-epic-cat-meme-epic-cat-epico-meme-gif-20299736

[willow valley]

Saw someone say "Let's go Justin," in the chat

[bitter sundial]

why do all these games so far look the same

[willow valley]

I dunno

Sci-fi shooter blowing up apparently

Now Ghostrunner pog

[bitter sundial]

holy shit

a different looking game

[willow valley]

Insane

[bitter sundial]

bruh

pirates of the purribean

[willow valley]

Yeah

[bitter sundial]

are you fucking kidding me

[willow valley]

They aren't

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-26280065

[willow valley]

My sister is really into those games, and that's one of their tamer jokes apparently

Splatoon with bubbles

[bitter sundial]

literally

they just copied splatoon and fortnite and called it a day

[willow valley]

Fr

[bitter sundial]

2k23 gaming be like

[willow valley]

Real

Oh god

I really hope that's just a remaster of 3

Oh cool

[bitter sundial]

MGS chonky bird edition

[willow valley]

What is this? Final Fantasy shit?

It is

I think you've fallen behind, Harissa

[bitter sundial]

yeah

I'm watching Alien 2 simultaneously

[willow valley]

Damn

New Assassin's Creed

[vital schooner]

heres your ac8

[willow valley]

Can't wait for it to be exactly the same as the previous ones

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/siaymin-siayyeon-gif-23989801

[vital schooner]

how do i respond to that

[bitter sundial]

good question

[willow valley]

Le fishe

I seen this dev before methinks

What the fuck is this, anime Monster Hunter?

[bitter sundial]

genshin hunter

monster impact

[willow valley]

Real

[bitter sundial]

holy shit

armored core anime

[willow valley]

Damn, this trailer was pretty cool until the anime showed up

This actually looks like dogshit though

[bitter sundial]

BRIGHT COLOURS

BRIGHT COLOURS

YOUNG PPL LOVE NEONS COLORS

[willow valley]

Yooooooo

Dragons Dogma 2

[bitter sundial]

damn

there was an alien in the ship

ripley and bill paxton are fucked

[willow valley]

Damn

Why is there another fucking FNAF game

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[willow valley]

Real

[bitter sundial]

what the fuck

[willow valley]

Weird ass commercial

[bitter sundial]

inb4 it's just a mirror's edge reskin

[willow valley]

Real

Oh boy, more Destiny 2 slop

[vital schooner]

lol marathon was a bungie game before they got the halo IP

[bitter sundial]

TIL

[willow valley]

Same

[vital schooner]

lol sony is launching a wii u

what a joke

who the fuck wants that

[willow valley]

Oh cool, new spider man

[willow valley]

Well that was

Okay

[vital schooner]

thats polite way of putting it

[willow valley]

What else would you have me call it?

[vital schooner]

boring as heck

[willow valley]

Eh, I thought there was some interesting stuff in there

[summer valley]

[vital schooner]

what is from softs greatest boss theme

and why is it adjubicator

[bitter sundial]

idk i'm a Radagon's theme gigasimp

[willow valley]

Same

[slow cobalt]

Ludwig’s theme solos all

[solemn shell]

YEAHHHHH I BEAT ||OWL FATHER|| (spoilers for a secret sekiro boss that is very close to the end)

i wouldnt normally spoiler tag a game from like 4 years ago but sekiro is a great game to play blind

[wise ingot]

Congrats!

that boss is quite hard

[solemn shell]

since this time, ive completely finished the playthrough, started another one, and ive beaten geni without dying yet in the second playthrough

btw this is my third and fourth playthrough actually

[willow valley]

[solemn shell]

my first one was on a seperate save and i just did normal ending

this one i did shura, then return, and im gonna do purification on ng+2

also ive gotta get 4 more lapis so i can finish the prosthetics

and then i gotta farm levels for finishing the skill trees

theres a lot to do for 100%

[willow valley]

Man am I glad every few games From realizes those types of achievements are shit and doesn't make them

[solemn shell]

i actually like them in sekiro

they arent too bad

the other games suck though

ds3 you gotta farm lots of covenants

[willow valley]

They don't exist in Bloodborne and Elden Ring

[solemn shell]

so far the only one ive 100%'d is elden ring

[willow valley]

Which is why they're the best ones ||/j||

[solemn shell]

but im kinda tentatively planning on doing it with all of them

[willow valley]

Imma be real

Save edit

[solemn shell]

ds3's my favorite soulsborne but idk do i really wanna get 100%

[solemn shell]

not nearly as satisfying

[willow valley]

50 hours is not worth the achievement

I saw some poor soul saying the covenant where you kill the Silver Knights took them 80 hours, it's fucking terrible

[solemn shell]

im willing to get a friend and just kill them over and over again

for whatever covenant i need

its better than farming enemies

but i dont wanna do save editing

[willow valley]

Alright then

[bitter sundial]

Meanwhile I'm over here with 500hrs on ER and still no platinum, because i'm too fucking lazy to collect one last spell lmao

[willow valley]

Is it the one in Godwyn's place?

[bitter sundial]

Guess what

i don't even know

[willow valley]

Fair lmao

[bitter sundial]

i'm so lazy about it I didn't even check lol

[willow valley]

Eh, I'm sure you'll get it eventually lmao

[bitter sundial]

that's what I thought a few hundred hours earlier

[willow valley]

[solemn shell]

i mean i got almost 500 hours

kinda

418

got 100% at like 200 or something though

[willow valley]

I hit it at like 100 something range

[solemn shell]

i got it in maybe like 1 hour after i decided to get it

before that i didnt really consider getting it

[sterile forge]

w

[viscid cedar]

DS3 players when they get a katana from that one guy in the tutorial

[solemn shell]

i did a ds3 katana only run

had to beat up that guy with just my fists

[willow valley]

Just riposte him off the cliff lmao

[bitter sundial]

fuck me

[vital schooner]

thats me and skyrim a decade ago

but with stealth

[willow valley]

[bitter sundial]

k real question

are you gonna pick up a finished save for the dlc

or start a new one and see what changed

[willow valley]

I'm probably gonna start with a save I already have made

[trail oxide]

Imma use my main runs save

[bitter sundial]

tfw when your main save is in ng+4 limbo

💀

[trail oxide]

I haven't finished the game yet

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1glasses-gif-20099941

[trail oxide]

I just need to go to Farum Azula but I wanna fight Mohg and Malenia before that

[bitter sundial]

dang

sorry bro we basically throwing spoilers here like jesus threw bread

[trail oxide]

I've been spoiled for everything

Already

But Fias ending

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/flushed-gif-22491838

[upper bane]

dont give me hope

please

[willow valley]

Noctem, that post's from a week ago

[upper bane]

I know but stilll T_T

[solemn shell]

ugh finally

i was farming skill points for like 3 hours today

[vital schooner]

ztarg

[trail oxide]

[bitter sundial]

This is what 500 hours of Elden Ring look like

[viscid cedar]

why did you spent so much time on this crappy game

[willow valley]

Me when a game is fun

[bitter sundial]

and that's not even counting all the documentation I'm going through

remember when i said i'd find the story myself

I meant it

and besides it's not like I really wanna play anything else lol

[upper bane]

https://twitter.com/shitpostgate/status/1666113075416629248?s=46&t=hfHSALsOlMhLd0A-9QYENA

ShitpostGateway (@ShitpostGate)

https://t.co/sMeRPsoclq

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[bitter sundial]

miyazaki

miyazaki

i'm at my fucking limit

where's the dlc

come on

please

yknow what

fuck this, i don't need your dlc

...

wait i was joking

pls

[viscid cedar]

bro is going through it

[bitter sundial]

condla

where is it

[viscid cedar]

its in my cellar

Miyazaki said that he will force me to play Iron Keep for the rest of my life if I give it up

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/jubal-cat-orange-cat-sleepy-tired-gif-25718322

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-insane-cat-help-my-cat-is-insane-help-my-cat-cat-gif-21688581

[cloud arch]

Fate worse then death

[vital schooner]

bloodborne pc port and armored core gameplay tomorrow right?

[solemn shell]

for sure yeah

(no)

[bitter sundial]

what happens tomorrow ?

i'm about to sniff dlc hopium again

[vital schooner]

Summer game fest is in an hour I think

It's the new e3

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-insane-cat-help-my-cat-is-insane-help-my-cat-cat-gif-21688581

[vital schooner]

happening right now

new prince of persia and mk1 gameplay shown so far

[bitter sundial]

YOOOOOOOOOOO

JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AND NICOLAS CAGE

[bitter sundial]

FUCK

[vital schooner]

womp womp

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-dies-malenia-elden-ring-scarlett-rot-gif-25102563

[vital schooner]

microsofts thing is this weekend

surely they show something fromsoft then right

[bitter sundial]

get ready for Yarnham Flight Simulator

[bitter sundial]

Lads

I now have Elden Ring on PC

[bitter sundial]

can't wait to finally play at more than 30fps

and with less input delay

[willow valley]

We gonna be able to play together sometime Harissa

[solemn shell]

very cool hope you have fun

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-halloween-skeleton-gif-20204038

[willow valley]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/729075231775391865/926489341553954916/IMG_0595.gif

[solemn shell]

who knows maybe i could join too

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/gentlemen-blaze-museum-grubhub-woopers-gif-19531837

we gonna be woopin'

[solemn shell]

darsus the inquisitor will have friends once again

[willow valley]

We can swing big swords together

[solemn shell]

actually darsus enjoys swinging the severed claws of dragons

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/claymore-my-beloved-claymore-my-beloved-dark-souls-gif-24997332

[willow valley]

Greatspears my beloved

[bitter sundial]

altho, I gotta say, Caestus have been really fun too

brawling it out with hoarah is so fun

[solemn shell]

darsus has a vyke cosplay with dual vyke war spears

[willow valley]

Who the fuck is Darsus

[bitter sundial]

but did darsus burn the whole world into chaos

[solemn shell]

darsus is my character

[solemn shell]

yes

[willow valley]

Ah

[bitter sundial]

but did you burn melina beforehand

the true Gamer move

[solemn shell]

nope i did that in a different save

[bitter sundial]

she toast

[solemn shell]

i have 5 different saves i think

3 or 4 ive completed at least one NG cycle

[bitter sundial]

same

[willow valley]

I got at least 6 completed characters, and only like 2 incomplete ones

[solemn shell]

on darsus ive done 3 ng cycles

iirc

but the rest only one

[bitter sundial]

omfg the semi-humans spirit ashes are so much fun

Tactical Chimp Gank Squad

[willow valley]

Kristoff my goat

[bitter sundial]

Reject mimic

return to monke

and i'm using the great club with beast incantations so it fits perfectly

[willow valley]

Counterpoint: this shit is funny

[bitter sundial]

if it for le funny, then it is perfectly valid

Destined Destined Death Death

[vital schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTPLucLU5I

[upper bane]

It is a dream came true

Bloodborne on a Portable device

[vital schooner]

i know not a fromsoft game but most likely to get the most discussion here. anyone checked out lies of p demo?

[solemn shell]

yea

i beat the first boss but not much else

pretty good, differentiates from fromsoft enough

the combat's a little hard to get used to for me though

[vital schooner]

yeah i played like 10 or 20 minutes and i was like this is pretty much my jam ill wait for a release to see what reviews say about the later game

[solemn shell]

ill eventually finish the demo

[cloud arch]

No fuckin way

[upper bane]

Through Cloud (PS Now)

but works hella well

[cloud arch]

W

[bitter sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8bauzXPPw

Roderika

😳

[willow valley]

Very nice

[upper bane]

Have an Internet Outage. Speedrunning It RN

[willow valley]

Cool

[vital schooner]

dude heck that speedrun

i put so much time into learning it

and i get cucked by the shadows of yharnam

[willow valley]

I don't think they're doing an actual Speedrun, Compound

That Speedrun is pain though

[vital schooner]

it would be better on pc, setting up practice saves was so annoying

main reason i quit cuz having to reload a thumbdrive everytime sucked

[upper bane]

i always cucked by Vicar hate her so much

after shadows, pretty much the game gets easier as hell

[willow valley]

Definitely

Unless you suck at Rom

Like me

Then after Rom it gets easier

[vital schooner]

vicar speedrun strats is my favourite souls boss

you feel like an absolute god

[cloud arch]

based

[upper bane]

speedrun failed but still gonna beat this vicar somehow

came to close 3 times

[slow cobalt]

Juri fans invading AC

[wise ingot]

no it's an old dark souls meme

[willow valley]

Yeah

All the way back in the days of Demon Souls

[slow cobalt]

I get that

It was a joke

[solemn shell]

how would i, say, obtain armored core 4A

[willow valley]

Go to the Armored Core Discord, head to the 4th Gen chat, and hit the pins, there you'll find videos on how to setup the emulator for both 4 and FA

[solemn shell]

well im gonna have to join the armored core discord then

ill do that tomorrow probably

[rigid dune]

ok ok. I am now officially looking fwd to ac 6

[willow valley]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core6-armored-core-mecha-mech-gif-27220299

[plucky gate]

i just started playing elden ring

lost 21k runes falling into a hole i couldn't see

went back to grab it, fell into the same hole again

[willow valley]

Did you at least save the Runes?

[plucky gate]

no

i fucked up

LMAO

[plucky gate]

ok i'm so used to games where my defensive options are instant like parry or dodge

there's an animation to this

which i'm not used to

any tips or is this just a "get good" type of deal

[willow valley]

Jump has lower body invincibility, so you can use it dodge a good portion of AoEs

[plucky gate]

wha

no way

[willow valley]

Yeah

Aside from that, it can be a good idea to try and walk around moves, rather than dodge through them to give you a better punish window

[plucky gate]

can you show me a clip of that happening

because i imagine it's hard to judge the range of their attack

to whiff punish

[willow valley]

Yeah, lemme find an example

[wise ingot]

It doesn't work much anymore, compared to old DS
But side strafing is really really strong

[willow valley]

This one's pretty advanced, but it showcases the idea https://youtu.be/bowObu6m_Lk

[rigid dune]

I know that hole. We have all fell into that hole. Near Limgrave I take it?

[rigid dune]

You playing without shield? Who you fitin?

[willow valley]

I don't think I've fallen in it

[willow valley]

Sherlock, most people play without a shield

[rigid dune]

I usually play with shield early on until I get something I want to commit to...I don't like using weird weapons early on with no stats.

Though when I did commit, I committed to moonveil and MLGS like a very basic peasent.

[willow valley]

I don't think I've ever equiped a shield outside of drip purposes

[rigid dune]

100% physical damage block shields is a pretty lazy defensive option that works for like most of the game.

If you mix it in with rolling.

It's a great "oh shit" option.

[willow valley]

And even then, that's only if I'm not running a mixed build, which I've only done for one run

[rigid dune]

I unno, shields are pretty low commit and good value I feel.

[willow valley]

I just don't like them

Ever since playing Bloodborne

[rigid dune]

That I can understand.

[willow valley]

I either 2 hand a big weapon, or dual weild a catalyst and some other weapon

[rigid dune]

Yeah, that's the route I go down eventually. Big sword or some kind of dex caster.

[willow valley]

You should try a Serpent Hunter run

I really liked mine

[rigid dune]

Is that the one found in that boss room?

[willow valley]

Yeah

[rigid dune]

I actually upgraded to max level in my first run just for lulz.

[plucky gate]

dude yes

[rigid dune]

And used it for a while..

[willow valley]

I did a run with only that, and it was really fun

[rigid dune]

That is like one of its kind. There is no other drop like that in the game.

[willow valley]

I have no clue which hole y'all are talking about

[rigid dune]

It is in limgrave, kinda near the area where there is a bunch of harpies iirc.

It looks like it shouldn't kill you. But it does.

[willow valley]

Sherlock, there's like 5 places in Limgrave with a bunch of harpies

[rigid dune]

But only of them has a hole near it that will kill you.

It leads to the area where there is the coast and shit.

[willow valley]

That doesn't help me if I don't know the hole

[rigid dune]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t94kxf/weird_screaming_hole_they_all_fell_in/

that one

[willow valley]

Yeah, I've never fallen in that one

[rigid dune]

It is the angle at which you approach that makes you fall into it. It is hard to see it from the rock above and you just assume there is ground below and before you know it "YOU DIED".

[rigid dune]

Are you even an elden ring player if you haven't fallen into that hole?

May wonders...

[willow valley]

Yes

[vital schooner]

Which hole

[willow valley]

See

[vital schooner]

I didn't fall down no dirty holes

[rigid dune]

Neither of you are true elden ring enjoyers?

That hole is a crucial part of the elden ring experience.

[willow valley]

Nah

[rigid dune]

It foreshadows the ||Radagon is Marika reveal|| via the deceptive nature of the elden ring's terrain.

Miyazaki thought of everything.

Nothing is what it seems.

[willow valley]

It's a shame you had that skill issue Sherlock, but I don't think it's that deep

[vital schooner]

honestly im not an elden lord enjoyer, i never finished. game sucks near the end and i couldnt be bothered

[rigid dune]

That's what we all thought when we jumped. But the hole was in fact quite deep.

I rest my case.

[willow valley]

No one here but you and Lys have fallen in it, Sherlock

[rigid dune]

Dude, there is only like 3 of us here.

[willow valley]

There's at least 5

[rigid dune]

They might have fallen into the hole and forgetten about it. Miyazaki moves in mysterious ways.

[willow valley]

[rigid dune]

But yea, that hole is stupid.

[vital schooner]

should have used the rainbow stones

thats what i do

smh

[rigid dune]

But you have to ask yourself "Is that what Miyazaki wanted me to do?"

AC6 gonna be great.

[vital schooner]

guys clueless

cant even fill in the blanks for his story

[willow valley]

Fr, can't wait to hear the next rendition of Fall/Memories

[rigid dune]

I am already loving the gameplay reveal so far.

[vital schooner]

i havnt seen anything

going to attempt to go in full blind

[rigid dune]

Nice. That's what I did for E ring.

They didn't reveal all that much.

[willow valley]

Yeah

[rigid dune]

But I will avoid further gameplay footage if they release it.

[willow valley]

Considering how deep AC games can get, they didn't really reveal anything

[vital schooner]

the only thing ill be looking up is how long the campaign is

if its like other acs ill wait for a sale

if its more than 15-20 hours i think i can justify the purchase

[plucky gate]

what does a blue vs red mean on attribute scaling?

[vital schooner]

blue is better scaling then what you currently have red is worse

iirc

so your current weapon should have E in str and C or better in dex

[bitter sundial]

Oh

I see which hole you're talking about

I almost fell into it my first time

Good thing I have an habit of jumping from clifs for the lulz, it saved my skin that one time

sorry @willow valley but that makes 3 out of 5 people who know "The Hole"

[willow valley]

It wasn't about knowing about it, it was about falling in it

[bitter sundial]

aight then, 3 out of 5 people here fell or almost fell intoThe Hole

[willow valley]

Also

I don't get why you wouldn't think any hole you can't see the bottom of would be a death pit

[upper bane]

https://twitter.com/weirdmp4s/status/1672951664536440834?s=46&t=hfHSALsOlMhLd0A-9QYENA

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https://t.co/k6MYcp55Xh

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[willow valley]

I remember when that first came out

[plucky gate]

@pure valley this is not a problem surely

[pure valley]

of course not

i had 32 hours in the game, 48 after the game released

[plucky gate]

rookie numbers, got it

[pure valley]

nah nah

[willow valley]

Definitely

[pure valley]

we're in the same boat

where you be at tho?

[willow valley]

My first playthrough definitely looked similar

I'm much faster now, but my first go definitely took it's time

[wise ingot]

I have not been playing elden ring enough
I can only handle 2 games at once and the one other than strive rn is Sunless Sea

[pure valley]

i couldnt get into sunless

[plucky gate]

i have no idea what is considered main missions or side missions tbh

i'm just kinda running around and doing shit people tell me to do

[pure valley]

yeah basically since theres not really a quest log or marker

but the little yellow trails will generally give you an idea of where to go

[plucky gate]

yeah not trynna rush it

[wise ingot]

There's this one part in early stormveil where an npc asks you why you're here
And the options are "say nothing" and "tell him you're here to kill godrick"
And i was like ah, so that's what im here for
Average fromsoft plot

[willow valley]

I dunno, I felt like the goal of Elden Ring was pretty clear

[vital schooner]

kill shit and dont uninstall from tilt

[plucky gate]

bro how come the ambient noise in this game is just a racetrack

can i respec if i decide i wanna do magic instead?

[willow valley]

Yeah

[wise ingot]

I knew i had to kill the big dudes to open a big door because it's a souls game
But i didn't know what i was doing in stormveil

[willow valley]

Ah, okay

[plucky gate]

if i'm seeing cutscenes, i know i'm progressing

[rigid dune]

Being mentioned by name in the opening cutscene is the fromsoft equivalent of a death sentence. I basically treat it like the to-do list.

[willow valley]

Yeah

[plucky gate]

what is retained during ng+, and what do I lose?

[willow valley]

You get to keep all your weapons, armor, and levels, but you lose your great runes and map fragments

I think you also keep your sites of grace? I'm probably not remembering that correctly

[plucky gate]

does the progress i make in giving sellen scrolls stay? or do i need to grab the scrolls again and then give it to her?

or do i lose incantations?

/consumables?

[willow valley]

You do lose NPC questline progress, and no you keep all that other stuff

[trail oxide]

Im 80 hours in and I still refuse to go to Farum Azula

(I still need to beat Mohg and Malenia)

(I've just been taking a break from the game so I don't get burnt out)

[random goblet]

Dark souls!!!

[willow valley]

Armored Core

[wise ingot]

Dark Souls!

[plucky gate]

Going to be on vacation for 3 months so I won't be able to play this game

[vital schooner]

thats not a vacation, thats a temporary state of mind

[viscid cedar]

3 months is a long ass vacation

[plucky gate]

i fucking suck at platforming in these kinda games

so divine tower of caelid is super nerve wracking

holy shit

every time the platforms break it's giving me a heart attack

[plucky gate]

nokron is so pretty

oh hey i hit my first crash

[willow valley]

That's surprising

I haven't crashed since the day 1 crash fix

[plucky gate]

damn why'd they have to do a full cutscene for me raising a bridge

that was so unexpected

[willow valley]

So that way you can't die while the bridge is being raised

[plucky gate]

could've given me that courtsey any other time game

choosing beggar i suppose

i'll take what i can get

[willow valley]

You get invincibility while opening doors

Just not a lot of doors to open

[plucky gate]

dude

cmon now

i need to see the telltale stats of what percentage picked what

it's gotta be above 90% at least

[willow valley]

Probably

Because it leads to a boss

[plucky gate]

well considering i have no idea that it leads to the boss

[willow valley]

With the single best OST track in the game

[plucky gate]

i am fueled by the desire to be held

[willow valley]

Okay

[pure valley]

Eyyy you found the best area

[plucky gate]

would there be anything stopping me or is it a bad idea to do full dex/arcane build this time with the stuff i have and then next run i commit to magic?

[willow valley]

Actually, Dex/Arc is one of the strongest builds in the game, if you want to do it, give it a shot

Personally what I do is make a new character every time I want to try out a new build

[plucky gate]

Oh it's just cuz I notice the weapons I like have dex arc lol

[willow valley]

[plucky gate]

Because committing to magic means I have to do quests and stuff that I don't need to right now because I don't need it for my build

And even if I did, I wouldn't have the stats to help it

[willow valley]

There's only like, one spell I can think of that's directly linked to a quest

[plucky gate]

So I guess I'll just do it on new game plus

I also meant going around and finding out what spells I like from what vendors and from what locations

[willow valley]

Fair

And I was wrong, there's at least 2, and they're both really good

[plucky gate]

The oracle envoy moveset is adorable

[pure valley]

Depending on where you are, you can also unlock respecing to try out stuff.

[plucky gate]

yep, got it a bit ago, but it's more the acquisition of items/incantations of the stuff i'm too lazy to do this playthrough

[rigid dune]

How far into the game are you?

[plucky gate]

i just got the frenzied flame from blind girl

love feeding her grapes

did not know this makes melina hate me 😦

she just threatened to kill my ass lol

[willow valley]

Yeah

And she's gonna do it too

[plucky gate]

wha

surely not, how could someone who gave me a horse be a bad person

or maybe

i'm the baddy

[willow valley]

You'll be the baddy if you follow that path to completion

[plucky gate]

i was debating going with dung eater

honestly he seems like a swell lad

except for what he did to crab bro

that's pretty fucked

[willow valley]

[vital schooner]

i think dungeaters ending is by far the coolest lore wise

[plucky gate]

does this game have a photo mode

[willow valley]

Closest thing is telescope

[plucky gate]

wait i can get a better screenshot

[willow valley]

I have a screenshot of that exact place, hold on a sec

[plucky gate]

it's so pretty

[willow valley]

Fr

[plucky gate]

FUCK the weather got snowy

:(((

[plucky gate]

i wish there was some way i can crank up the graphics settings

i have everything on max and i feel like it could look a lot better

[willow valley]

Turn down the brightness

[plucky gate]

the anti aliasing in this game is just not it

[plucky gate]

so it says that "Bell Bearings" do not transfer over to ng+

what if i already turned in the bell bearings into the lady

she still keeps the shops right

[willow valley]

Nope

[plucky gate]

or does that also reset

fuck

[vital schooner]

you buy all limited stock from the shops before going into ng+

at least i do

[plucky gate]

looks like that's the plan

[pure valley]

...are you already done with the game?

[plucky gate]

no this is planning for the future

i don't know if i'm close

[pure valley]

i was gonna say

you mustve been playing it nonstop

[plucky gate]

i mean

i have

lol

[pure valley]

fair

[plucky gate]

but yknow

at least i'm expecting to die a lot at bosses

but what's not fun

is getting skill issue'd at platforming sections

[pure valley]

💀 ik it's bad

Just know they used to be worse

[plucky gate]

nakagiba, dung eater summon, bull goat's talisman, dragoncrest shield talisman, viridian amber medallion, claw talisman

@pure valley

lowkey dung eater summon kinda carrying my ass

we take those

what's the point of making new characters instead of just doing new game+? just faster "respeccing"?

[pure valley]

ye pretty much. or if you want to start over with a new playstyle

[plucky gate]

ok i'm at ordina

this shit sucks lmao

what's the counterplay to the stabby homies

[willow valley]

Don't get grabbed

That's it

They deal too much damage and are invisible, so the best strat is just to plan a route that gets you in and out fast, along with avoiding the Black Knife Assassin's

[pure valley]

yeah, im just glad progress saves

[willow valley]

Same, it's such a small but nice thing

[plucky gate]

ok i found the strat is just to fucking book it and outheal lmao

[willow valley]

Yeah

[plucky gate]

god i hate searching for the marker that i place in the map

wish there was a clear marker option

[plucky gate]

lol the albinaurics at mohgwyn that summon skeletons keep killing themselves with the skellies

[plucky gate]

ok mohg's triple bloodloss thing is pretty bs

can i i frame through it?

[willow valley]

No, you need a Crystal Tear

[plucky gate]

wait

i think i know what you're talking about

[willow valley]

Alright

[plucky gate]

oh shit i do have it

[willow valley]

Cool

[plucky gate]

it's pretty fucked up how millena has lifesteal

[pure valley]

through shields too

[plucky gate]

i don't think i touched a shield since starting

but that's gotta be rough

[pure valley]

smart

but yeah lots complained

[plucky gate]

holy shit that's the first boss that actually killed dung eater

[willow valley]

Malenia?

[plucky gate]

bro we're gaming

man it feels weird going back to fight fire giant after this

[vital schooner]

how many hours have you played?

it feels like you just started

but you are hella far already

[plucky gate]

i don't think you understand how addicted i am

it's literally been wake up, play until 8AM the next day, sleep for 5 hours (i set an alarm), play again

i obviously eat and shit and shower but like

this has consumed me

[pure valley]

nice

[summer valley]

The through shields part is the real kicker

[willow valley]

My least favorite part of fighting Malenia is when you get her health to 0 via reposte in phase 1 and she gains immortality

[vital schooner]

hows your fashion souls looking like though

[plucky gate]

i helped her out for this

are you kidding

thanks rya

i'd love to run something i'd like but uh white mask kinda fucks it

and i lowkey need it

[wise ingot]

Damn it's the calamity ring

[plucky gate]

holy fuck this looks so cool

holy shit he just smited me

[pure valley]

lmao

one of the better bosses

[plucky gate]

the only bosses i've hated so far are the duo ones

i love that before he nukes me the music cuts out

[pure valley]

godskin

[plucky gate]

yeah that was the one i was thinking about

ngl it was so annoying

[pure valley]

hate that boss

only one i summon for rn

[plucky gate]

triple crystallinans was annoying too

[pure valley]

oh yeah

i had unnerfed moonveil for that fight

made it easy

[vital schooner]

i wish i played the game with the broken builds before they got nerfed

cuz man

i hated my build by the time i quit the game

[pure valley]

they didnt even change its damage

they just changed its poise damage

[plucky gate]

idk if it's just the build i'm running it but idk seems broken so far

character strength seems pretty high in this game

if you want it to be

[willow valley]

It still does a shit ton

[plucky gate]

what with all the summons, incantations, jump attack/heavy attack stuff

[willow valley]

Not to mention it chunks health bars

[plucky gate]

you don't have to play demon souls fundies anymore

from what i understand

[pure valley]

it went from 3 to 4 WA

[pure valley]

p much, the summons are the games difficulty levels essentially

[rigid dune]

Did you see his cool laser attack?

[plucky gate]

the multiple yellow hyperbeams?

[rigid dune]

The firebreath into hyper intense lazer godzilla beams ya

[plucky gate]

yeah i kinda let them do their shit

it's so beautiful

[plucky gate]

he's so cool

got the getsuga tenshou moveset

[plucky gate]

final look at the map before i finish

[vital schooner]

damn ggs

[plucky gate]

Ok so like I'm not sure about the endings

But the one I went with was the perfect order one

Seems pretty happy to me

What's the catch

[rigid dune]

No catch really. Ranni is canonically the best ending and flame is the worst one. Everything else is various shades of middling.

How you beat the game in 3 days?

[plucky gate]

it's been like a week

started friday last week i think

100 hours

wait how long does it usually take

for first playthrus

[rigid dune]

About 120 fo rme.

I spread it out over 2 months I think

[plucky gate]

imagine

having a life

LMAO

i get to be degen now

cuz i won't be in a few days

[rigid dune]

Well, at least you can now uninstall in peace now.

[plucky gate]

with all this "sightseeing", "enjoying nature", "backpacking"

ugh 🙄

[plucky gate]

nope

[rigid dune]

I always feel guilt about unfinished fromsoft games.

[plucky gate]

NG+

and i missed out on the entirety of ranni's quest

cuz i did frenzied flame

[rigid dune]

It took me 6 months to beat sekiro. I got to the final boss in like a month and just didnt touch for 5 months.

[plucky gate]

and i need to try different builds

i pretty much stuck with the same one for 100 hours

[rigid dune]

Rannis' quest is great.

[plucky gate]

making minor improvements here and there

it was just that good

[rigid dune]

What build did you run?

Dex/Arc right?

bleed is great.

[plucky gate]

yeah

[rigid dune]

I did like 5 different builds in a single playthrough

[plucky gate]

every time i died it was a skill issue, i never thought "i should grind more" or "my build sucks"

[rigid dune]

What weapon?

and any spellz?

Dex/Arc doesn't let you cast spells right?

[plucky gate]

nah

i just did bloodflame blade

white mask, shard of alex, great jar arsenal, dragoncrest greatshield talisman

[rigid dune]

What weapon though?

The dog greatsword?

[plucky gate]

nagakiba with unsheathe

[rigid dune]

Ah. I don't think I even found that thing.

I ran a lot of weapons.

moonveil, wing of astel, bastard's stars, MLGS, death's poker and claymore.

wing of astel is a pretty neat weapon. Stayed relevant throughout the game.

[plucky gate]

since i didn't use a single spell that entire run i'm thinking i full send magic next run

[rigid dune]

And also the sword of night and falme.

[plucky gate]

helps lean into the ranni thing

[rigid dune]

Magic is pretty cool

Grayswon did a faith/int glass cannon.

Dex/Int is really strong.

But faith has some cool weapons.

[plucky gate]

dex seems to just be good all around

[vital schooner]

i still havnt finished elden ring

im at the end too

i got annoyed with the game design after fire giant

[plucky gate]

what did you not like about it?

[vital schooner]

it felt like the difficulty curve they stopped giving a shit about and just cranked that to a 21. i like a challenge but when stuff one combos you its not fun. i never thought double bosses was a good design and i didnt want to play using summons of any kind so when you get to the last bosses it felt like they balanced the difficulty with summons in mind and i felt cheated and ripped off. and theres a boss design that was in a couple bosses in dark souls 3 where the boss would have the same animation for the start up of 2 different attacks which required different responses from the player and i thought it was horrible boss design. they not only double down on that in elden ring but they put that in almost every single achievement boss fight

plus that town with the invisible hunter who you cant kill can suck my entire ass

[plucky gate]

i don't think that designing bosses with summons in mind is bad

it's in the game

you can choose to use it or not

if you don't want to make it as hard, just use it

if you don't, there's really no complaint

the startup thing is annoying

but the worst part are the double bosses holy shit

just the worst

the single bosses felt fair because i can place the entirety of my death on them

the others are just "you were stuck in the animation to respond to this boss, get hit with the other one"

and stuff one shotting you is fine imo, game is meant to be punishing, I don't mind my mistakes being severe and having to learn from it

because eventually I got there, and it felt super rewarding

knowing i can do this boss with ease when i used to die every single attack it threw at me

[vital schooner]

so for the summons i dont think they should have been considered for any difficulty. dark souls has always had player summons and they were fine none of the bosses felt like oh shit i gotta summon to make this doable. summons in elden ring should have just been a way for people who want a solo experience to have a companion. but when i have a theme of a play style i want to do i should be able to do it on a normal ass play through. it shouldnt be a challenge run to just play a normal ass build. so when i got to these boss fights that allow no room to breath, constant aggro, and still take a long ass time to do im just sitting there thinking "are the devs just forcing me to use a play style i really dont want to do?" and once i felt that i stopped having fun and just turned it off

[plucky gate]

they're def not forcing. Majority of this (I mean this in the most friendly terms) seems to be a skill issue. The reason I've been so addicted to this game is because of a sense of discovery and seeing what the game has to offer. along with mastery of an encounter/boss. So when I realize certain bosses were too easy with summons, I just alt f4'd and reloaded it and tried it without the summons, because it's a lot more fun that way. From what I gather, you don't like the difficulty of the bosses, which is fair, it might just not be your type of game. So you'll have to chose to play by what the developers intended you to do or limit your own runs like you said by actively not participating with an intended game mechanic to force a challenge that you say you don't like onto you.

[vital schooner]

yea it is a skill issue, but its just my opinion on why i didnt finish it and why i stopped liking it. the difficulty of the game was fine till melinia and god skin duo. most of everything felt pretty fair. but ill also say ive beaten every fromsoft game starting with demons souls on ps3 and some of them multiple times, even speedran bloodborne for a little bit. never had a real issue with any of them other than ds3 with the bugs i ran into on 2 bosses

oh i guess i never played ds3 dlc either

so i cant comment on those bosses

[plucky gate]

i could be wrong but didn't they say they wanted to make later bosses in this game especially difficult because they've seen a lot of people just destroy their previous bosses with like no gear, no dodging/shielding/jumping

[vital schooner]

uhh no idea but thats silly if they did. stuff like that is challenge runs and a regular player is never going to practice that. fuck the happy hob plays through every single fromsoft game without taking damage

[plucky gate]

so is elden ring the hardest souls game to you?

[vital schooner]

if you were to take the avg difficulty of everyboss, not including dungeon bosses and repeating bosses only counting once, i think bloodborne is harder. end game bosses, so the final lets say 3-5 main story bosses i think elden ring is leaps and bounds harder

and this is only assuming ng difficulty ive never done max difficulty souls game which is ng+7

[plucky gate]

bloodborne looks so cool

do i give up hope on pc port

[vital schooner]

lol thats on you, a life on copium isnt so bad if i do say so myself

will say though i do have hopes cuz with the fighting against microsoft for domination and releasing previous exclusive games on steam and them making good money from it, they would be stupid not to do it

unless theres some legal crap with fromsoft when they originally made it but who knows

[plucky gate]

bloodborne

REMASTERED

[willow valley]

It's basically the best stat in the gamw

[pure valley]

I think bloodborne's dlc is harder than alot of souls content

Plus the chalice dungeons

Tho some made the game too easy

[willow valley]

Me when infinite souls

[pure valley]

Oh but midir does exist

Fuck that boss

[willow valley]

Nah, Midir is cool

And you will literally always be able to beat fim first try after beating him the first time

[wise ingot]

If you count it, then the hardest souls game is easily sekiro

[willow valley]

I don't

Since it's so fundamentally different from every other Souls title

[wise ingot]

Yeah

[willow valley]

@pure valley Fuck you mean 🧢

[pure valley]

fuck you mean beat him first try afterwards

he still kicks my ass

[willow valley]

I legit haven't lost to Midir since I beat him the first time

Don't matter the NG level, don't matter the weapon, I got him down pat

[pure valley]

dam alr

im just skill issue

[vital schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmO2orfpHfo

havnt and not going to watch it but this popped up

[rigid dune]

It is the same gameplay reveal as before.

From playing footsies with us.

[willow valley]

They're trying to whiff punish our hype

[willow valley]

[bitter sundial]

iirc, the only characters aware of that duality are Goldmask and his simp

the others are just scared shitless of Marika herself lol

[willow valley]

Yeah

[upper bane]

taking the train to Montreal. Gonna SpeedRun it

[willow valley]

Good luck

[plucky gate]

Ay nice

Ok so I decided to buy this game

Because mods are so finicky

Specifically the boss rematch/gauntlet one