From Software

[willow valley]

This like

The most confusing way to make a point like that Condla

[viscid cedar]

its like 3 am okay

[vital schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej6NzeqetOo

[willow valley]

It's Corin' time

[rigid dune]

Fees..you played the yelden reeng?

Why was I not informed? I would have shown up to...

[willow valley]

I feel like I got my fucking training weights took off after Gen 1 Armored Core

[rigid dune]

hey yo AC 6 waiting room here

[willow valley]

Yes

@slow cobalt We Core post here

[rigid dune]

very ready for it

[willow valley]

Same

I will no longer have to aim with the fucking triggers, or move with the bumpers

[slow cobalt]

Ye it’s wild

PS1/2 controls are wacky lmao

[willow valley]

Fr fr

[vital schooner]

i wish there was a digital armor core somewhere

[willow valley]

I am streaming it right now

[vital schooner]

ok but i wanna play it lol

[willow valley]

Emulation

[slow cobalt]

How are you sposed to get credits besides missions any arena?

In 3, I mean

[willow valley]

That's it as far as I know

[slow cobalt]

Damn

[willow valley]

I didn't play 3 though

[slow cobalt]

Oh rip

I’m getting to the point where my ass is gettin whooped hard

[willow valley]

Hit the garage

[slow cobalt]

No money doe

Like 20k credits. That’s barely anything lmao

[willow valley]

Damn

ACIV got me swimming in creds

[slow cobalt]

I’ve bought some parts already, but shits expensive

[vital schooner]

emu for any gen from playstation and onwards is the most pain in the ass thing ever

minus nintendo

[slow cobalt]

Is ps2 emulation still bad?

[vital schooner]

i could never get it working

[willow valley]

They got a pack for the first generation that makes it a breeze

Okay so

Losing cost me nothing

Wtf

Dropped in
Killed 4 people
Made 130K in 10 seconds
Left

[slow cobalt]

[willow valley]

I kinda wish the music in mission was louder

Because it's fucking amazing

[slow cobalt]

Oh, it sets you back to your last save when you die

And there’s no auto save

Uhhhhhhhhhh

[willow valley]

Yeah

[slow cobalt]

Oppsie daisies

[willow valley]

Should've saved more

Me personally

I save

[slow cobalt]

I didn’t save at all lmao

I didn’t know I had to manually save

[willow valley]

After every single mission

And edit to my Armored core

[slow cobalt]

I gotta restart lmao

Oh well, I think I made some questionable purchases anyways

[willow valley]

At least you can make better ones now

[slow cobalt]

I got no clue what I’m doing with my upgrades tbh

I’m tryna sus it out, but after a handful of missions I started getting my shit rocked lmao

[slow cobalt]

Yeah for sure

[willow valley]

They made upgrading a lot more clear and concise in IV

[slow cobalt]

Yeah in this one they don’t tell you shit

What should I upgrade first?

[willow valley]

I dunno, your FS?

You could also upgrade your legs

Weapons are always a solid choice

[slow cobalt]

Gotcha, ok

I did my legs first last time. I got a new rifle too, but it didn’t seem to help much lol

Maybe I can try a diff weapon type this time

[willow valley]

For sure

I recommend replacing your melee with a gun

Personally I opted for a shotgun, but a rifle also works well

[slow cobalt]

I’ll give that a shot

The base sword does a ton of damage, but it’s hard as hell to land a hit with

The controls are a bit too stiff for melee lol

[willow valley]

Yeah, that's why you replace it

[slow cobalt]

I’m stupid. I have the manual for AC3

[willow valley]

Have you not read it

[slow cobalt]

Nah i forgot I had it till now

I should tho

[willow valley]

Also, I would like to remark

My dopamine receptors are firing on all fucking cylinders after playing ACIV

Primarily over the mech building lmao

[vital schooner]

youre making me wanna hit up my used game store this week

and pick up an AC if they have it

[willow valley]

You should

It's great

If not jank

[vital schooner]

this is the one right

[willow valley]

Project phantasma is the prequel to AC 1

But yeah, that looks correct

[vital schooner]

how do you know that name

or was it in the failed embed lol

[willow valley]

Yep

[slow cobalt]

Brooooo ps1 armored core looks cursed as hell lmao

[willow valley]

It is cursed as hell

Holding R1/L1 while using the DPad/left analog stick to keep the lock on, on the enemy is cursed as hell

[vital schooner]

no more cursed than having your roll button and dash button as the same

or the shit ass kick button they have

[willow valley]

I mean

Your "jump" and your "dash" and your "flight" are all bound to the same button

[slow cobalt]

That’s how AC3 plays lmao

The only upside is you have the option of using analog stick, but that’s even more jank

[willow valley]

Yeah, they didn't change it until IV

[slow cobalt]

That’s rough lmao

[willow valley]

IV is fucking dope

Looking up and down being bound to the trigger buttons

[slow cobalt]

Bro any defense mission is just impossible

[willow valley]

I legit don't think you have enough ammo in your clips at any give time to kill everything

[slow cobalt]

I need to take a break, I failed 3 mission in a row cuz the things I gotta defend are made of paper

[willow valley]

This kind of stuff makes me legitimately kind of sad

[vital schooner]

i havnt look at anything from ac aside from the announcement trailer

im going to try and go in 100% blind

[willow valley]

You're in for a treat

[slow cobalt]

Idk, just seems like a dumb joke to me

Going thru the subreddit, it seems a ton of AC fans are just super salty that souls games got more popular

[willow valley]

I can kind of see why, though I think that does the potential design decisions and lessons From Software got a disservice

[slow cobalt]

I get it too, but it seems more like “thing bad because popular” than anything else

I mean I guarantee all 3 king’s field fans are throwing a fit that armored core is getting a sequel lmao

[willow valley]

Eh, King's Field has Lunacid

[slow cobalt]

True, but that’s it

Or, god, shadow tower fans lmao

[willow valley]

[slow cobalt]

Where’s eternal ring 2, fromsoft? I’ve been waiting 22 years.

[willow valley]

[vital schooner]

thats just a typo of elden ring

[slow cobalt]

Incorrect

[willow valley]

Dark Souls II: 2

[slow cobalt]

Fake FromSoft fan smh

[willow valley]

Elden Ring

[slow cobalt]

I have eternal ring lmao. It’s kinda ass

Yknow, I wonder if you can play AC3 with stick

[willow valley]

It's probably not a great idea

But go for ut

Lemme know how it goes

[slow cobalt]

My only ps2 stick is in storage, so I ain’t gonna be trying it any time soon

But I mean, you only need one analog stick

and with an 8 button layout set up right, I feel like you could make it work

[willow valley]

Yeah, it could probably work

[bitter sundial]

Gamers when a game as a block button

[slow cobalt]

Gee I can’t believe FromSoft would rip off metal wolf chaos like that

[ebon bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY-HlgpsuOY

I want Bloodborne on PC so much

[viscid cedar]

welcome to the club

[viscid cedar]

also you might wanna avoid this thread for now, we talk about spoilers for all games fairly often here

[bitter sundial]

tbf at this point, BB spoilers are pretty much like ff7's

the worst kept secret on the internet

[willow valley]

Fr fr

[bitter sundial]

I've never touched a final fantasy and even I know who dies in that game

[willow valley]

Who doesn't?

[ebon bay]

dw, I came here just to post that video and complain about lack of Bloodborne

~~ I still haven't caved in to get DS, where sale ~~

[bitter sundial]

||Your mother||
||No, seriously, I don't think our parents' generation knows anything about FF ||

[willow valley]

Y'know what

I can see that

[willow valley]

I love that Selling shit allows me to revamp the entirety of my mech

Anyways

I'm now dual wielding mini-guns

[willow valley]

Armored Core the goat fr fr

[slow cobalt]

“Based on the concept of the armored core series”??

[willow valley]

Clearly they mean Armored Core for the Game Boy

[slow cobalt]

Damn gameboy has better graphics than I remember

[willow valley]

Yeah, honestly kind of impressive

[vital schooner]

Armoured core is over a 100 dollars

[slow cobalt]

Which one?

[vital schooner]

I didn't look at all of them but the ps3 versions

Think it was 4 and 5

[slow cobalt]

Holy shit they all expensive

[willow valley]

Yeah, I can see it

[slow cobalt]

Wacky as hell

[willow valley]

Quick question

Do y'all think this would be better as an emote or a sticker?

[upper bane]

another day where Im wanting a fcking PC port or 60 FPS P A T C H

[wise ingot]

Sticker

[willow valley]

Y'all took too long

[willow valley]

Ngl

It's kind of disheartening to see Armored Core fans shit on Souls games/fans

[trail oxide]

Why can't we all get along

[vital schooner]

thats just fantasy nerd vs sci fi nerds

a tale as old as time

[bitter sundial]

The first mistake was going on subreddits or forums on the first place lol

There's nothing to gain there except wasted lifetime

[willow valley]

Harissa

This is a forum

[bitter sundial]

Yep

(and the only one I'm using)

[bitter sundial]

are those tiny eyes above the mouth

it's cute af

[willow valley]

Nope

[bitter sundial]

too late

[willow valley]

They're all eyes

Technically

[bitter sundial]

This is like zenyatta all over again

[willow valley]

What are you talking about

[bitter sundial]

there are two dots above the red mouth thing

once you've seen it you can't unsee it

[willow valley]

Those are screws

And the red is clearly the eyes

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-spiderman-bully-maguire-gif-22308246

anyway

[willow valley]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-25720883

[bitter sundial]

social media bad

bottom text

[willow valley]

Where image

[bitter sundial]

who said there needs to be an image

[willow valley]

I dunno, I'm kinda just waiting for the other shoe to drop

[bitter sundial]

aight, here goes

social media bad

https://tenor.com/view/siaymin-siayyeon-gif-23989801

bottom text

[willow valley]

Brilliant

[bitter sundial]

Splendid

[willow valley]

Stupendous

[rigid dune]

@willow valley Did you play AC4? If yes, how you emulating it in PC?

[willow valley]

Yes, and here https://youtu.be/FvaTZklnL-8

[vital schooner]

skip all the cut scenes?!

no thank YOU

[willow valley]

There's like 5 in the whole story

[vital schooner]

im just going to go play xenogears

[viscid cedar]

I uninstalled ER

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-fire-giant-hoarah-loux-godfrey-first-elden-lord-gif-25729644

[viscid cedar]

they don't make it like they used to

I can't believe they fired Miyazaki and replaced him with some dude named Micheal

[bitter sundial]

he got zaki'd

[trail oxide]

Do loading screens also take 8 billion years to finish for everyone else in ER?

Every time I die or fast travel I am greeted with a 5 minute loading screen

[willow valley]

Nah, they're typically not too long in my experience

[trail oxide]

They were fine before

But all the sudden it's been abysmal

And it's killing my will to play this atm

Because long loading screens suck

[willow valley]

I dunno, google it, see if there's a way to fix it

[viscid cedar]

you were playing on Xbox right

[trail oxide]

I did but I only got solutions for PC despite mentioning Xbox

[trail oxide]

Ye

[trail oxide]

THE LOADING SCREENS ARE NORMAL NOW?!?!

This game truly works in mysterious ways

[trail oxide]

The Prelates Inferno Crozier is funny

[slow cobalt]

The hammer?

[trail oxide]

Yeah

[summer valley]

R8 my stat allocation

[willow valley]

6/10

[vital schooner]

5.8

[summer valley]

what's wroing with it

[viscid cedar]

too much dex

[vital schooner]

too much dex or too much faith

[summer valley]

I've got a keen swordspear rn

[viscid cedar]

bros

I forgot what mind did

[summer valley]

Also I need 42 faith for greater erdtree heal or whatever it is

[viscid cedar]

what are you using the faith for

[summer valley]

healing + dragon spells + blackflame

My incantations all do a metric fuckton of damage

[viscid cedar]

did you finish the game

[summer valley]

I'm in NG+3 rn

or

ig journey 3 is NG+2

[vital schooner]

that seems hella low hp for ng+2

[summer valley]

I have been getting hit a lot 💀

managing tho

Mostly die to when there are too many enemies for me to keep track of

[viscid cedar]

yeah its generally a good idea to sacrifice certain stats to specialise as well

I don't think the spear you got requires strength right

[summer valley]

I've been using defensive incantations to boost my survivability

[summer valley]

I dual stance with dragon halberd

Don't ask me why the swordspear is an halberd

it just is

[viscid cedar]

🤓 well it actually has only 10 dex so you can just respec to get more health

I fucking hate fextra bro

[summer valley]

yee but then my swordspear no worky

[viscid cedar]

don't play a stream when I want to look up a item

[summer valley]

I wish I didn't have to spend a larval tear to try respeccing

Not even doing it, just looking at the different values

does str affect anything besides weapons?

[viscid cedar]

wait

don't quote me on it but I think it consumes one after you accept it

not when you bring up the menu

[viscid cedar]

nothing major

[summer valley]

is there any way to upgrade my health flask more btw

I've got it at +12 but it doesn't heal enough

[viscid cedar]

there is 12 on the whole game

so one more

[viscid cedar]

wait I'm dumb it doesn't say +1 after upgrading once does it

[summer valley]

i gotta go grab my food i'll be back in just a sec

[summer valley]

idk

[viscid cedar]

nvm it does rip

+12 is the max

[trail oxide]

Rykard more like AAAAAAAAA WHAT THE FUCK

Grabbed me 4 times in a row

[summer valley]

Rykard more like whykard

His music is pretty banging ngl

[willow valley]

Too generalized, it's typically better to hyper focus on one maybe two damage stats

[trail oxide]

He's dead

[trail oxide]

Do you wanna see mine 😳

[summer valley]

[summer valley]

pure melee mfers be like

[trail oxide]

It fun

[viscid cedar]

based

[trail oxide]

I like whacking people with a stick and seeing them turn into red mist

Especially with the (insert percentage) damage increase the Commanders Standard aow gives me

(15% maybe???)

Do I go for Rykards Great Rune? It seems funnier compared to Goddicks

[summer valley]

i only use godrick's tbh

[trail oxide]

It's really good but like

Life steal funny

That is my only reason

I never use Rune Arcs anyways

I think I used one once

[rigid dune]

Fees. You playing a Paladin? What weapon?

You are kinda spread thin like Axalu said.

But it is fees.

So, I will give 8/10.

[rigid dune]

This is some dedication.

[willow valley]

Here's my current character Imma use for the DLC

[summer valley]

idk exactly what paladin is

I'm using dragon halberd and guardian swordspear (also a halberd) rn tho

[willow valley]

Str/Fai

[summer valley]

evil magic user

[rigid dune]

Moon magic is good magic tho

Ranni approves.

Fai is evil magic

[summer valley]

WHAT????

[rigid dune]

Ye,

[summer valley]

evil sherlock tbh

[rigid dune]

Fai spells are spells made up by the greater will, the meddlesome outer god.

We don't need no outer goods in this land.

This land is muh land.

[summer valley]

I use dragon faith spells

[rigid dune]

And that's why I am gonna vote Ranni in the upcoming leection.

Dragons are ok. Dragons are cool

Maybe fees is not evil.

[willow valley]

Cope

[rigid dune]

[summer valley]

i am now dumb rock man

[rigid dune]

Is that Malenia's slam dunk in there?

[summer valley]

yee

that boss was a bitch

[rigid dune]

Good ole Malenia.

Tilting ppl left right and center.

[summer valley]

Mimic dunked on her while I interrupted waterfowl with bloodflies and gurranq bolder

[rigid dune]

I set Tiche on her.

[summer valley]

The boy

[rigid dune]

And then backed him up with moonlight great sword.

His head looks like someone melted a pot on his face.

Like in that one GoT episode.

[summer valley]

I've never seen GoT

[rigid dune]

But swordspear seems legit.

[summer valley]

It's the mimic tear faceplate or something

[rigid dune]

You are not missing much.

[summer valley]

"Silver Tear Mask"

It gives +8 to arcane

[rigid dune]

You enjoying the NG+ modes?

I have never played any of fromsoft games more than once.

[summer valley]

wdym?

Oh

I'm pretty much just doing quests and stuff that I missed before

[trail oxide]

This is what my guy looks like

[summer valley]

So far I've got stars ending and deathbed ending

[trail oxide]

I'm trying to do the deathbed ending rn because it's the only one I haven't been spoiled for

[summer valley]

ensha 🫵

[summer valley]

mario drops down from the ceiling, says ligma, and then you die on a minecraft bed

get spoiled

[rigid dune]

Let me see if I can pull up my character screenshot.

It was in this channel somewhere.

Nope, that channel got nuked.

[trail oxide]

[rigid dune]

But just know that my character looked very cool.

[trail oxide]

I believe you

[rigid dune]

I was doing a wing of astel, bastard stars, moonveil build.

[trail oxide]

I just like big sticks

[summer valley]

I'm not really doing a particular build but I'm leaning into frost rn

[willow valley]

This is the only screenshot I have from my current playthrough lmao

[trail oxide]

I don't like magic because that's for nerds

[summer valley]

Swapped swordspear from keen to cold and dragon halberd causes lightning and frost w/its aow

[trail oxide]

(I have a second run using magic)

(it isn't too bad but I still prefer big stick)

[summer valley]

[willow valley]

That just makes you a nerd too

[trail oxide]

Nuh uh

I have less than 5 hours in it

[summer valley]

idk how to level up anymore

I have to beat like 4 bosses to get two levels worth of exp

[trail oxide]

What level are you?

I'm only 101 rn

[summer valley]

202 atm

[trail oxide]

Ah

[summer valley]

it takes 300k for me to level up once now

[trail oxide]

It only takes 62K for me to level up

[summer valley]

zamn

cheating asuka

[trail oxide]

Fr

[summer valley]

what are some fun bosses I should do

I don't want to do rykard cause he takes so much effort to get to

[willow valley]

This why you typically don't go over 165 if you can

[trail oxide]

I just killed him

[trail oxide]

Why not? If you have the runes might as well get beefier.

Or am I not understanding

[rigid dune]

Fees

Did you play dark souls 3?

Or is Elden ring your first souls game?

[willow valley]

It's mainly a PVP thing, but also it just gets insanely expensive

[trail oxide]

Ah

PvP isn't very fun to me anyways

[summer valley]

first

[willow valley]

I enjoy it quite a lot personally

[trail oxide]

I see

[summer valley]

what's your favorite boss to do

I'm really bored and need to commit kill

[willow valley]

Radagon

[rigid dune]

@willow valley Did you try Ace combat at any point?

I think you would enjoy it of all the ppl in this discord.

[willow valley]

I own it, never really got into it though

[rigid dune]

Ah. I am appreciating the gameplay. There is something satisfying about the execution aspect of bombing runs and trying to hit to fast moving targets,

[vital schooner]

sherlock the war criminal?

[rigid dune]

I don't think participating in a war automatically makes you a criminal.

You need to break the geneva convention or something.

[willow valley]

Yeah

[vital schooner]

You sound way to excited to be doing carpet bomb runs

[bitter sundial]

Listen to Sherlockkat, Axalu
Play Ace Combat 7

https://tenor.com/view/spare8-ace-combat-ace-combat7-gif-21001816

[vital schooner]

how long have the storymodes been in armored core games

[willow valley]

Not terribly

[vital schooner]

no shot the new one is going to be short like the old ones right

[willow valley]

I doubt it, since they're changing the forumla

[trail oxide]

They're gonna add a fucking crab

[willow valley]

They got radiation to play with again, the most we're getting is quadrapeds

[slow cobalt]

What if from made mech dark souls like all the jokes about ac6? That would actually be pretty rad

Like it has souls-like combat but with the customization of ac

That would be fun I think

[willow valley]

I dunno, I really want AC6 to retain a lot more of it's identity

[slow cobalt]

Yeah I don’t want them to make AC6 a souls game

Like I’m talking about a new IP

[summer valley]

lobster ptsd flashback

[trail oxide]

Why is the Rykard great rune doodoo ass

There's a talisman that does the same thing

But better since I don't have to use a rune arc for it

[trail oxide]

Why are most of them doodoo ass actually

[summer valley]

wear both at the sxame time + blasphemous blade

[trail oxide]

I don't have enough stats to use the blasphemous blade effectively

[summer valley]

2hand it

[trail oxide]

No

[summer valley]

[trail oxide]

I mean the aow

I have 53 strength, that is not an issue for me

I don't have to two hand shit if I don't wanna

I also like my halberd and hammer too much

[summer valley]

BASED ASUKA

halberd brother 🤝

[trail oxide]

Commanders Standard funny

I have a bunch of attack boosting talismans and the aow so I do a shit ton of damage

[summer valley]

I return to the worst place in the entire game

[willow valley]

Elphael pretty dope though

[bitter sundial]

it could be dope if the entirety of the roster wasn't reused ennemies

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-dies-malenia-elden-ring-scarlett-rot-gif-25102563

[summer valley]

I DID IT

I BEAT MELANIA LEGIT

HAHAHAHA

FUCK THIS BOSS

All it took was a juiced mimic, Borealis' breath and rot flower

[bitter sundial]

fish

you get rot flower after defeating her

[summer valley]

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-serious-stare-suspicious-gif-5319823

[summer valley]

yeah I cheesed her the first time

I beat her honestly this time tho

™️

:3

Honestly most of the fight was mimic and I taking turns doing borealis' breath while the other staggered her to fuck with powerstance halberds

There was so much frost damage

I think the rot flower resets frost somehow which made it so we could proc for frost damage more frequently

And now I get to level up two times

[bitter sundial]

oh lol mb

nice!

[summer valley]

[bitter sundial]

now do it without mimic and staggers

(it's a chore)

[summer valley]

I'm not let me solo her 💀

I don't think I'll ever do that tbh

Waterfowl single handedly makes this boss unfun

[bitter sundial]

I mean the dude is lvl 1, no need to handicap yourself like that

[summer valley]

If she didn't have it I would be tempted to try something like that

[bitter sundial]

fr fr

[summer valley]

Legit had about 5 tries tonight where everything was good until she did waterfowl and then it was an instant loss

[bitter sundial]

tho with enough HP and armor + boiled crab, you can facetank a shitload of hits from her

[summer valley]

Yeah I was using shrimpies until I forgot to do them

I did start spamming buffs tho

lord's blessing + flame buff

and greyroll's roar if I found time

[bitter sundial]

anything is good against malenia

cheating bitch doesn't deserve sympathy

[summer valley]

true!

[bitter sundial]

[summer valley]

Also does she legit not know that Mohg stole Miquella

Like does she think he's still in the tree

[bitter sundial]

idk the plot told her to attack us, she didn't look past that

[summer valley]

zamn

Time to finish Millicent's quest

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/la-tour-montparnasse-infernale-dont-die-too-hard-eric-judor-scream-scared-gif-17730785

the most anticlimactic quest

"guess I'll die"

[summer valley]

I wish there was a way to save her

[bitter sundial]

I usually just let her at altus

it's something I guess?

[summer valley]

I'm doing frenzied flame into commit needle this run so I needed to finish her quest

But yeah I'd prefer to leave her alive

Not in the church tho

cause fuck gowry

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-nanomachines-son-punch-gif-25478224

me approaching gowry in every run

(his dog gets it too)

[summer valley]

SAME

I've literally been doing that every time I had to talk to him or saw him

Kill the dog, run up and do his dialogue, kill

[bitter sundial]

[summer valley]

Anything I should do before frenzied flame + burning tree?

[bitter sundial]

not really

[summer valley]

so uhhh

Fought Gideon

He did scarlet aeonia once

My mimic immediately did it in retaliation

And that was the rest of the fight

Literally like 12 rot flowers

I couldn't see shit

Fighting Radagon, hopefully first try 🫡

The first try did not go well

I got trolled by hitboxes

Second try again

Booyah

[viscid cedar]

||kid named two phased boss fight||

[bitter sundial]

isn't it like 6 am for you guys

[summer valley]

yeah

oh look a delicious lake of rot

It feels like a lot of incantations are insanely good

[viscid cedar]

would you all say that faith is much better now in ER

[summer valley]

I have no perspective on other games but it feels very strong to me

I have breath spells that do upwards of 3k

And that's without whatever status condition they cause

[viscid cedar]

people say DS3 faith was underwhelming but I never did a one in that game

[willow valley]

Definitely

[viscid cedar]

and ds1 faith didn't have much spells

like it was reasonably strong but it was barren spellwise

[willow valley]

It was pretty good before the lightning nerf

[viscid cedar]

DS2?

[willow valley]

Yes

[viscid cedar]

I tried one faith build there

and tbh they really overcorrected it imo

[willow valley]

They really want you playing a mixed build

[summer valley]

Also just did 5k with two buffs into halberd jl1

[viscid cedar]

pure faith was super outclassed by other spellcaster builds

ok I need to use the bathroom I'm gonna die

[summer valley]

I don't think pure faith is viable in ER

The spells are strong but they're slow

Unless you get mad poise like me

Tanked a hit from Radagon and it didn't knock me out of borealis' breath

[willow valley]

There's some insanely strong spells that make it extremely viable

[summer valley]

Do you have some examples?

[willow valley]

Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike, Frozen Lightning Spear, all the Buff/Healing ones, Scouring Black Flame, Pest Threads, and probably some others I missed

[summer valley]

Pest threads seems okay

You have to use it point blank for it to be truly effective

Which is tough against anything but EB

I stg the hitbox on scouring black flame disappears halfway through the animation too

It refuses to hit enemies for me sometimes

[willow valley]

I have never had that happen

[summer valley]

I tried to use it in the ocean cave boss fight area and it refused to hit half of the demihumans

I don't think it's actually broken, it was just really weird

What's your guys' favorite place on the map?

Mine is probably Chapel of Anticipation

[willow valley]

Tough Question, let me think

[summer valley]

Also, I really like that Gurranq/Maliketh's line changes if you give him all the death root

[willow valley]

Yeah, it's a cool detail

[viscid cedar]

hot take

if my character hurls fucking lightning at people

but can only use them 4 times per sitting at a bonfire,

it should hit harder than my regular melee hits

[willow valley]

DS2?

[viscid cedar]

yeah

[willow valley]

Mixed build gaming

[vital schooner]

Sounds like you need to play 1.0 dark souls

Oranstien and smoug? More like lol 4spells and your dead

[willow valley]

Chaos Firestorm gaming

[viscid cedar]

I should do a pyro build

I always got carried away and did a strength or a quality build in that game

[summer valley]

Using Godrick's rune barely moves my bars now

[vital schooner]

I remember for my second playthrough I did a glass canon build in ds1. In that fight it was literally 8 casts of homing soul mass or w/e it was called and both bosses died

[willow valley]

Yeah, because you're way beyond the soft caps now

[summer valley]

Vigor endurance dex and faith are

Mind is pretty close too ig

Takes 450k exp to level up now

Favorite place in game, followed by really cool place that I wish had more content

[willow valley]

Use Radahns rune I guess

[summer valley]

nah fuck radahns rune

I'm not going through that tower again

also holy shit the dungeon version of astel was so much harder than the regular

I was getting vigor checked with 55 vigor

[willow valley]

Fish

You just gotta do the outside bit to get Radahns

[summer valley]

true

i forgor about that part

but still fuck it

Godrick's is my favorite and I refuse to change

Even if it does effectively nothing for me

I've kind of locked myself into normal ending I think

Cause I can't get perfect order

And I don't want to do Ranni's again

And I already purged the frenzy

[willow valley]

Alright, my two favorite spots in Elden Ring, this specific ledge in Elphael, and Placidusax arena

[summer valley]

Arena is a very sick spot

[viscid cedar]

what about dung eater

[summer valley]

I like it more when Placidusax is still there tbh

[summer valley]

don't wanna do that ending tbh

Half because I don't want to do it, half because I don't want to look for seedbed curses again

Chilling with the boi

[viscid cedar]

I'm super proud of these screenshots

[summer valley]

Those are in Raya Lucaria I assume?

[viscid cedar]

top of one tower

you get there by the tunnel

[summer valley]

Tunnel?

[willow valley]

How you get Terra Magica

[viscid cedar]

the tunnel under Raya Lucaria

[summer valley]

where perchance might this tunnel be

[viscid cedar]

close to the the magic dragons lair in the magic area

I forgor the name

[willow valley]

Just look in the west cliff side at Raya Lucaria, you'll probably find it

[summer valley]

I did

Damn I didn't realize crystalians lost all their defense when their stance is broken

[summer valley]

Do I have to kill Alexander?

For his questline I mean

[willow valley]

If you want the talisman, yes

And it's required to complete it

[summer valley]

damn

why are there no happy endings

And journey 4 has begun

[summer valley]

150 hours

I got this on the 22nd

13 days

[bitter sundial]

I just had a funny thought

what if the final boss of the DLC takes place in an area where you can't summon

From casually trolling 90% of their players

Honestly I kinda want it to happen just for the outrage it would spark

[willow valley]

Why they gotta hit me with this https://vxtwitter.com/armoredcore/status/1654523970165538819?s=46&t=gxYrIsBM6L0l4E66Kz83iA

[bitter sundial]

I swear that female voice at the end reminds me of someone

i know, Echo from Overwatch

I'd bet it's the same voice actress

[summer valley]

Game just starts breaking if you don't talk to melina ig

[willow valley]

No it doesn't

You can beat the game without talking to Melina

[summer valley]

Idk why my stuff isn't loading then

Just tried to challenge godrick and I'm stuck in a black void

[willow valley]

Your system is simping for Melina

I guess

[summer valley]

zamn

Had to force quit out but everything's working now

[willow valley]

Cool

[summer valley]

I'm using only bolt of gransax skill + incantations rn

[willow valley]

I basically did that my first run

[summer valley]

Well I have unfortunately run out of mana pots

So I have to attack now

ohhhhhh

I realized why things weren't working properly

My antivirus is scanning my game drive rn and everything is taking super long to load in

[summer valley]

I just fell through an unloaded part of the floor and died

ebic

[summer valley]

It was under the water too so I couldn't even see

[willow valley]

Change of plans

In honor of today

I'm speedrunning a Guts build

[trail oxide]

What's today?

[willow valley]

Second anniversary of Kentaro Miura's death

[trail oxide]

Ohhhhhhh

Ok

I'll make a Griffith build to rival your Guts build then

I was meaning to make one anyways

[willow valley]

Alright

[slow cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-screaming-griffith-berserk-guts-screaming-gif-26478309

[trail oxide]

Idk what a Griffith build would look like entirely since I haven't finished it. I now must finish it all today

[slow cobalt]

Dex build for sure

[willow valley]

Curved sword

[slow cobalt]

Which game you playin?

[willow valley]

Elden Ring

[slow cobalt]

Ah

Is there a curved 1h sword that looks like Griffith’s tho?

[willow valley]

Uuuuh

Scimitar, is the closest

[slow cobalt]

I think estoc might work too

More of a pokey sword, but it’s close in shape and size

[willow valley]

True

[slow cobalt]

(If there’s an estoc in ER, I forgor 💀)

[willow valley]

Yes, iirc

[slow cobalt]

Rad

[trail oxide]

I see a lot of people using Rogiers Rapier or the Great Epee

[slow cobalt]

Ooooo yeah good point

[willow valley]

Yeah, those are pretty good choices

[slow cobalt]

Idk if there’s an armor set that looks like his tho

||besides prisoner ||

[trail oxide]

||I was gonna use that as my starting class and take all the armor off but the helmet||

[willow valley]

I think my final goal for Armor is Blaidd's set

[trail oxide]

I see people using Loretta's armor but it doesn't look right to me

[trail oxide]

Wouldn't the Nights Calvary work better?

It's all black

[trail oxide]

Why did I spoil mark that

[slow cobalt]

I mean, it’s close 🤷‍♂️

It does look a bit stupid doe

[trail oxide]

Ik

I just don't like the look of the armor

[willow valley]

I suppose, but I like Blaidd's more, so I'm going with that

[slow cobalt]

Like what’s up with the crotch window

[trail oxide]

He do have drip doe

Wait does this mean that I have to be naked until Loretta

[slow cobalt]

Canon

[trail oxide]

[willow valley]

Just make a mixed set

[bitter sundial]

i mean how else are you gonna assert dominance

[slow cobalt]

We all know Griffith has a small pp, so he wouldn’t want to show it off like that

Even Miura didn’t want to draw it cuz it was so small

[bitter sundial]

Not many fans know this, but in a cut chapter, Griffith's first wish to the godhands was actually to make it bigger
Their answer ? "Nah bro be more realistic"
And the rest is History

[slow cobalt]

True. Actually in the non canon chapter 83, when Griffith meets the idea of evil he says “I want a fat cock n balls”. But he was told by Young Animal that it would be inappropriate to young readers, so he begrudgingly changed it to “I want wings”.

[willow valley]

Okay

So what Spirit Ash would be most similar to Serpico?

I got everything else planned

But I really think this could be an interesting idea

[slow cobalt]

That’s a good question

[bitter sundial]

Indeed. A former employee who worked at the publishing house (who wish to remain anonymous), even revealed that Miura once barged into the building, screaming "IF I CANT SHOW GRIFFITH'S DICK I'LL MAKE THIS FUCKING MANGA THE BLOODIEST EVER CREATED OUT OF SPITE"

[slow cobalt]

They got him to calm down a bit, but Miura still held firm to his beliefs. “Let me show Griffith’s huge 16 inch pecker or I’ll kill everyone”. They thought he was bluffing at the time.

[bitter sundial]

In fact, rumors say that Griffith's "Behelit", wasn't supposed to be an egg, initially...

[bitter sundial]

Either a birb or the knight who attacks with wind I guess

[slow cobalt]

Maybe it had something to do with the 4 volume long guts x griffith sex scene that got scrapped after Miura’s passing

[willow valley]

Oleg?

[bitter sundial]

Probably. And what about the puppet who shoots St-Trina arrows ?

she's rocking a pretty similar style

[trail oxide]

Time to pull up a video of how to make Griffith

[willow valley]

Sword acquired

[slow cobalt]

Guts Required Ahead

Therefor, sacrifice

[bitter sundial]

DIY Griffith character :

• Do the ugliest abomination you can do
• Put prisonner helmet
• Say it's Griffith's face after being tortured
• Big brain moment

[bitter sundial]

Therefore, time for Grass

[slow cobalt]

Tongue but hole

[bitter sundial]

me whenever I see this for the 3844th time in a Souls game :

[trail oxide]

[trail oxide]

I followed it, what do you guys think?

Wrong reply oopsie

[slow cobalt]

Dude made JP

[trail oxide]

[willow valley]

[trail oxide]

Guys how do I beat soldier of Godrick

I'm stuck

[willow valley]

This is how long it took for me to kill Greyoll

I didn't have the stats for flail

So it took over an hour

[slow cobalt]

The free souls dragon?

[willow valley]

Yeah

[slow cobalt]

Lmao at that point I’d rather grind out the souls for flail’s stats and then optimize ur points later

An hour is too much

[willow valley]

Worth it though

[slow cobalt]

STRENGTH

[willow valley]

It's a Guts build, I gotta have Strength

[slow cobalt]

Jesus lmao

[willow valley]

Actually

Does anyone know if Dragoncrest Talismans Stack

[trail oxide]

I tried doing it without the stats and gave up 10 minutes in

On my second run

[willow valley]

Simply built different I suppose

[slow cobalt]

Y’all are insane

[willow valley]

I should put Barbaric Roar on the Greatsword, right?

Or at least

Some sort of attack buff

If I can

[slow cobalt]

Yes

Gutsmaxxing

[willow valley]

To the Lift of Dectus I go

Oh, that gives me an idea

[slow cobalt]

Shoot

[willow valley]

It's pretty basic

Altus before bosses

[wise ingot]

cavalry armor is like that i think
if you don't have that you do bad things to your saddle, and also it's very uncomfortable

[slow cobalt]

Yeah but when ur off the horse it looks a bit goofy

[wise ingot]

true
don't get off the horse

[willow valley]

Loretta was basically never off the horse

[slow cobalt]

Elden Ring oops all torrent run when

[willow valley]

When there's a mod for it I guess

[vagrant flint]

Anyone played the Daughters of Ash mod for DS1?

[willow valley]

It has been done

Now I just have to get up to Altus

[willow valley]

Got me some temporary drip

[willow valley]

Damn, the Mimic Tear keeps getting harder

[willow valley]

Astel beaten at RL 57

I'm fucking sick with it

The stats

[trail oxide]

I got to level 33 and tried Margit three times before leaving

I had to go to work

[trail oxide]

I don't even know how to make a Dex build I just through points into that and Vigor

Dex makes you attack faster right?

... probably should've looked this up before making this build...

[willow valley]

No, just increases the weapons damage via scaling

However

Dex has an extremely minimal effect on spell casting speed

[trail oxide]

I assumed that

[willow valley]

It's like .01 seconds or some miniscule shit like that

[trail oxide]

Am I supposed to be doing a Dex/Int build for Griffith????? I only just finished the Conviction Arc this mf uses magic??

Or am I an idiot

[upper bane]

I need help on Black Kindred boss outside Guranq

arse is hard lmao

[willow valley]

Nah, I would go maybe a Dex/Fai though Pure Dex would also work

[trail oxide]

Just dodge smh

[trail oxide]

FUCK I NEEDED TO LEVEL FAITH?!??

[willow valley]

You can always respec

[trail oxide]

Ik but I'm not to Rennala (renalla?) yet

I actually have never respeced before (because I'm just that good fr)

(I totally didn't have Totsu help me design my build before playing)

[willow valley]

Just use a build calculator bro

[trail oxide]

Real

I literally asked her "how do I make a Vanguapo build"

My original plan was to make him but I went with an old guy instead because that's funnier

[willow valley]

Anyways, time to kill Blaidd

[trail oxide]

Idk why but I struggled so hard on his shadow originally

Like

All I had to do was bait out his jumping attack and punish it

Ez

But I couldn't handle that apparently

[willow valley]

Unfortunate

[trail oxide]

What incantations should I be getting for the Griffith build?

[willow valley]

It is done

[willow valley]

[trail oxide]

[willow valley]

Probably a bunch of defensive stuff

[trail oxide]

[willow valley]

Griffith isn't really shown using his Miracles for anything offensive

[trail oxide]

I see

||idk even know what his miracles are, he just showed back up for me||

[willow valley]

You'll see

[trail oxide]

||I'll read more tomorrow if I have time||

[willow valley]

Oh, AoE healing too

[trail oxide]

[vital schooner]

the souls memes from the coronation have been great

cant wait for when he kicks the bucket and we get more

[willow valley]

I personally enjoy Dex/Int more, but Str/Fai is definitely fun

[upper bane]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-red-easy-button-red-button-gif-4642542

[viscid cedar]

can we all agree that the decade old "haha dark souls is hard guys you're gonna die a lot" joke is extremely tired, not funny and its mostly a myth and/or its misleading

[bitter sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-we-can-obama-interview-gif-14597095

It's more : "The first few hours are tough, but once you get it, it's not harder than most game"

~~except ER with its bullshit difficulty spike after Morgott ~~

[willow valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ryuugs-gif-22383696

[viscid cedar]

soulsborne games have high skill floors with relatively low skill ceilings

[bitter sundial]

I mean, you're the only one deciding your own skill ceiling

it can get very high depending on the weapon you're using

[viscid cedar]

you can claim that for every game though

[willow valley]

I feel like Elden Ring has a high skill ceiling, definitely in comparison to other games

[viscid cedar]

every RPG is tougher or easier with certain builds

its not unique to souls games

[bitter sundial]

then why say souls game have a low skill ceiling

[viscid cedar]

if you play the game in "proper" manner its almost never that hard after a while

like you can use almost every weapon class and you'll be fine

[willow valley]

There's a proper way to play Souls games?

[viscid cedar]

I use the quotation for a reason though

when I say that I mean somewhat optimal

obviously there is no one or two way to play the games

you can just do soul level one or go shield only

[bitter sundial]

tbh I feel like skill floors/ceilings are sort of umbrella terms that can mean too many things

You'd say Super Mario have low skill ceiling, but then speedruns exist

[viscid cedar]

if you include challenge you can't really use these terms

[bitter sundial]

Any game can have high skill ceiling, even fucking tetris

[willow valley]

Tetris actually goes insane

[viscid cedar]

skill ceiling/floor refer to when the game is played on a way that is """"intended to be played""""

let me ask you a question

[bitter sundial]

but that's the thing, where's the "objective" limit

[viscid cedar]

do you agree with pokemon devs when they say that the mainline games don't need a difficulty select because the players can determine the difficulty of their own games?

[bitter sundial]

I mean yeah, the story in pokemon games is baby level

but then there's the post story content like the Combat tower that's a whole other can of worms

so there is (was) a high skill ceiling

[viscid cedar]

let me describe what I think

self imposed rules like nuzlockes or not summoning in bosses are valid ways for players that are good at the games to increase the challenge factor of the game

but taking those things that were created by the player base and claiming that the games or the devs created a system that allows you make your own difficulty doesn't make much sense imo

only catching the first pokemon you see is not intended and you can't give credit the devs for the idea that you can do this

similarly not rekindling bonfires is not "devs letting you determine the difficulty of the area", they wanted to create dilemma where you debate whether you want to spend your humanities or not

[bitter sundial]

I guess yeah

But even if the methods aren't intended by the devs, it's still a way for the players to express their skills through the game, so does it really matter ?

[viscid cedar]

it is valid to enjoy those experiences yeah

[bitter sundial]

And in the case of Souls games, the devs definitely intended to make the game still possible by using only a naked fuck with a stick

source : trust me bro

[viscid cedar]

stick is not a bad weapon though

[willow valley]

You can definitely tell not every way was intended though

[viscid cedar]

if you believe all games can be outlets to express your skills that's fine and a valid opinion to have

but a lot of people act like this only applies to souls games

[bitter sundial]

Mario fucking Kart Wii is harder than all souls game

I'll die on this hill

[viscid cedar]

tbh

[bitter sundial]

the AI is a cheating fuck

[viscid cedar]

there a lot of games that are harder than souls games

[willow valley]

Definitely

[bitter sundial]

Indeed

[willow valley]

But I think they're harder in different ways, which is partly why From Software titles in general have risen to prominence for their difficulty

[viscid cedar]

most of the time its hard just the right amount

so its fun to engage in combat and its level design

[bitter sundial]

It's also because the base mecanics are baby simple

one button to dodge

and it builds up from there

meanwhile just undersanding fighting games feel like learning a degree or something

[willow valley]

What is this person talking about

[bitter sundial]

"underwater" they're obviously referencing the age of the deep axalu smh my head

[willow valley]

Real

[vital schooner]

you ever wish you could go back in time when you were innocent and playing dark souls 1 for the first time

discovering dak soul lore youtube channels

[bitter sundial]

idk I don't watch lore youtubers

they annoy me

[summer valley]

"And if you look at the comments on Vyke's toes.jpg, you'll actually be able to find out that Godwyn fucking died"

• Average lore youtuber

[bitter sundial]

Average lore youtuber : makes a 4 hours long video about the crucible, its location and its appearance
Books about mythology : "Crucible can be an allegory for the primordial state of the world where everything is intertwined"

[willow valley]

Indeed, that's what the Crucible was, and Omens are primeval man

[bitter sundial]

And Godfrey is literally the "Sacred King"

[vital schooner]

max just called elden ring a 3d zelda game and i dont know how i feel about it

[slow cobalt]

People will say that calling Dark Souls a new take on zelda is wrong, but it literally has OOT Z Targeting

And I think Miyazaki himself said that he was inspired by zelda

[vital schooner]

zelda is just a crappy metroidvania

[slow cobalt]

Zelda came first

Get owned, nerd. Check ur gamer knowledge

Internet arguments won today: 1

[vital schooner]

did it really

[slow cobalt]

Yeah

[vital schooner]

i thought zelda came out in 86 and metroid in 85

how far off am i?

[slow cobalt]

Both were 1986, but zelda was Feb and Metroid was Aug

[trail oxide]

I beat the fire giant earlier today

The camera was the true boss fuck that shit

Got him on the 5th or 6th try though

He was easy when the camera decided to work

[slow cobalt]

Fire giant can suck my nuts one at a time

I can beat the guy EZ now, but I still hate him