Prolly the best sub(?)species
#Monster Hunter
icy stump
rose bison
though his design and everything is also sick
analog osprey
It's one of those monsters that just say "It's always my turn"
rose bison
i just think that fight is designed so well
analog osprey
Prolly the best sub(?)species
What does he count as
He is technically the original species
heady goblet
Prolly the best sub(?)species
I thought the title was origin species or smtn like that
rose bison
It's one of those monsters that just say "It's always my turn"
yeah you really gotta weave your attacks into his combos and stuff like that
i think hes kinda just a rare species?
analog osprey
I thought the title was origin species or smtn like that
I think in-game it counted as a variant tho
Don't quote me on that
rose bison
in-game you unlock him similarly to other variants
like lucent nargacuga, scorned magnamalo
i still need to fight scorned magnamalo
icy stump
I thought the title was origin species or smtn like that
Gonna call him a subspecies cause it's easier
Scorned magna ripped a line of crack
Several actually
analog osprey
i still need to fight scorned magnamalo
He kicks ass too highkey
Scorned Magnamalo is basically a deviant
icy stump
Ngl don't like scorned nearly as much as I like primalz
icy stump
He feels kinda aoe heavy
rose bison
its similar to like bloodbath diablos
icy stump
But at least those apes aren't on a delay making your punish windows non existent
analog osprey
Ngl don't like scorned nearly as much as I like primalz
He does control the area a lot more
With his speed and just launching projectiles
icy stump
Looking at you crimson glow valstrax and pretty much all the ATs in wilds minus Arkveld
Low-key I think CG is worse than base valstrax
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Low-key I think CG is worse than base valstrax
icy stump
The aoes ruin it
We had peak
heady goblet
Low-key I think CG is worse than base valstrax
He kinda is ngl
icy stump
But then weirdly Risen fixes it?
icy stump
But then ex risen ruins it harder
icy stump
Does normal Valstrax have a final flash
Narkarkos reference btw
But valid point
I feel like I'd dislike CG way less if normal valstrax was also in the game
Cause it's like "oh ok he's the harder end game version kinda makes sense"
rose bison
i didnt actually know crimson glow wasnt normal
icy stump
And the Aoes are delayed enough you have time to react
icy stump
i didnt actually know crimson glow wasnt normal
Yeah normal valstrax doesn't leave dragon fart clouds around
rose bison
like i know crimson glow is a prefix and he is a variant but i thought the fight was the same
analog osprey
i didnt actually know crimson glow wasnt normal
He's basically normal Val but with a few new moves and some adjustments to Rise's combat
icy stump
He just adds the final flash and delayed AoE on wing stabs when enraged
analog osprey
It's unlikely but I REALLY hope he returns in Wilds
icy stump
Guardian valstrax
analog osprey
The open world would be SO cool for his whole thing
icy stump
What'll it be Mr bond?
Peak cinema?
Or unfettered aoe slop?
analog osprey
He uses Wylk instead of Dragon element
icy stump
He uses Wylk instead of Dragon element
Nah he uses both
icy stump
I mean do you want him to be using wylk jets?
night ledge
Hopefully we get more elders in master rank
icy stump
Honestly I hope we get guardians in the dlc that have more fucked up elements
night ledge
Stygian zinogre be hype though
analog osprey
I mean do you want him to be using wylk jets?
Yes, Valstrax (regular one at least) doesn't have that many attacks he uses that have dragon element
night ledge
I hope we don't get more guardians tbh
icy stump
Yes, Valstrax (regular one at least) doesn't have that many attacks he uses that...
I mean he has like enough
night ledge
I hate the glow added to the armor
icy stump
He has all he needs
analog osprey
I mean he has like enough
As far as im aware he only had the balls he shoots
rose bison
Hopefully we get more elders in master rank
is the elder trio not in wilds yet?
analog osprey
is the elder trio not in wilds yet?
No
rose bison
what the heck
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Gog is the only elder in wilds
icy stump
Nah honestly crazy take
The guardian rathalos armor rocks
rose bison
why do people like this game
icy stump
As far as im aware he only had the balls he shoots
He has balls, the thrusters when he takes off, the big aoe explosion flip, the close range kaboom, and the big wing slam at the edges of em
Its enough imo
Tho giving him the beam would be fun
analog osprey
He has balls, the thrusters when he takes off, the big aoe explosion flip, the c...
All of that you can do with Wylk
I want a Valstrax literally only running on Wylk
icy stump
I mean
Ig but at the same time guardians are predicated on having elements to detonate the wylk
The only one who can't is dogoshuma
And he's the tutorial for the gimmicks
analog osprey
And instead of having his own internal generator he has to recharge because Guardians don't eat
night ledge
Gog is the only elder in wilds
๐ค um I believe zoh is an elder as well
icy stump
Imagine you knock him out of charging up and it's just a big ole wylk explosion everywhere
analog osprey
He isn't classified as one technically speaking
night ledge
Guardian is a sub class though
icy stump
Demi elder is lame as fuck
night ledge
Guardian bird wyvern is a thing
icy stump
Guardian is a sub class though
Guardians are listed as constructs in the hunter notes
night ledge
Yes they are interchangeable
icy stump
Its a weird classification
night ledge
Guardian is what the people of wyveria call them because they were made to guard them
icy stump
Low-key I kinda hope we get to see whatever monster inspired zohs angel form in a update
icy stump
The idea of zoh in the aftermath of him dying and reboring himself causes his shell form and his fatalis form to split would be super cool
We sift out the fatalis bits
Then boom, white fatalis happens because he absorbed enough wylk to bleach himself
Or maybe we get a version of fatalis that cycles the forms
rose bison
wow i need to stop reading this channel it is just spoiler after spoiler
icy stump
Base>crimson>white
icy stump
wow i need to stop reading this channel it is just spoiler after spoiler
The game has been out for an entire year 
night ledge
and truth be told
icy stump
I'm like 90% sure you were in here when we were discussing this before
night ledge
its the monster hunter story
icy stump
Nono I'll give sloth that one
night ledge
lets not pretend that its good or even interesting
rose bison
The game has been out for an entire year <:SOLKEKW:917214151217131530>
im not saying you shouldnt say spoilers im saying i should get outta here
rose bison
lets not pretend that its good or even interesting
i will play it eventually and i dont want spoilers
i like monster hunter stories sometimes
icy stump
||the twist of zoh being a EDW made FROM fatalis bits is the best bit of story telling in this game cause it's purely subtext and based on prior knowledge||
wide oyster
its the monster hunter story
peak?
night ledge
just because i havent seen him since FU
icy stump
Like I'll rag on wilds till the cows come home for the bullshit plot that literally takes up more of your time than ACTUALLY HUNTING THE FUCKING MONSTERS going through low rank, but I'll give credit where credit is due
night ledge
peak?
quick! i need to know what game this is from
The monster are acting strange
and there is some ecological disturbance
oops!
actually
icy stump
The last like 10% of the LR story is super interesting conceptually
Damn shame it's undermined by the rest of it and it's bullshit
night ledge
that disturbance was caused by another anomoly!
night ledge
go kill it
icy stump
The monster are acting strange
I mean the plots the same but the lore is different
night ledge
!remind me 4 months
icy stump
Im annoyed with wilds plot cause it wasted my time in exposition crawls and all dat in shit I've already seen time and time again
BUT the shit with ||wyveria and the guardians, especially zoh was cool cause it did something no other game really did, that being the monsters being synthetic||
Athal ka aside but it's not it's mech, it's a big piloting a mech
Copper athal ka in oilwell when
night ledge
well get athal vs gog vs awakened zoh
and itll be a big kaiju battle
and! the best part
you get to experience it in 10fps
(if you have a 5000 series)
icy stump
Lmao
Those dipshits on the mainline team would use way to many vertexes on the mech model and that alone would tank the frame rate
If the dlc is water combat themed I'm unironically not buying it lmao
I don't wanna have to fight my frame rate from water simulation graphics bullshit, my thelassophobia, AND the monster
rough aurora
i beat the base game of world :D
analog osprey
It's so cheeks that you don't get the nameplate for beating proof of a hero if you join the quest
Only the host gets it
Which I find ass honestly
sharp cedar
Which I find ass honestly
no its pretty much you have to be there when the quest starts
analog osprey
no its pretty much you have to be there when the quest starts
Well I didn't get it when I beat it with a friend
And I've been in the quest before departing
sharp cedar
did you start at the same time or did they start it before you
analog osprey
Either my shi was bugged or I am just obscenely blind
sharp cedar
Either my shi was bugged or I am just obscenely blind
did you both leave and start at the same time or did they get there first and then you got there like a minute after
analog osprey
did you both leave and start at the same time or did they get there first and th...
We started at the same time
sharp cedar
then its bugged
analog osprey
Like departed together if that's what you mean
sharp cedar
yeah thats what i mean
analog osprey
Doesn't really matter, I plan to solo the quest regardless
sharp cedar
cause I got it with seri and zyx when we all left together
icy stump
Ill solo proof of a hero when I get enough patience to play wilds again
analog osprey
cause I got it with seri and zyx when we all left together
I'll check again when I play, just to be sure
analog osprey
Ill solo proof of a hero when I get enough patience to play wilds again
Which is next year
icy stump
Lmao
analog osprey
Honestly I was surprised your HR was even that high Unga
With how often you complain about Wilds, I wouldn't have expected you to play that much
No front, of couse
icy stump
Nah I get it lol
It pisses me off but I still play it cause it's the popular MH rn
Also at the end of the day it is MH and is actually fun when the game comes together well
Its just I feel like this game self sabotages way harder than any other mh game does for no good reason
analog osprey
Its just I feel like this game self sabotages way harder than any other mh game ...
It is pretty "heavy"
In the coding department
And all
icy stump
Right but at the same time I feel like it's them kinda reinventing the wheel
analog osprey
Right but at the same time I feel like it's them kinda reinventing the wheel
They're kinda trying to break the MH formula in a way
Which I enjoy and hate
icy stump
Which I'm not a fan of personally
Its weird to go "here's a MH game, we made it LESS MH like"
analog osprey
For one, I am all in on the story aspect-
Like hell yea
Give me liberty, give me fire, give obscure lore to uncover or I retire
icy stump
Its like if I go to a food place, order chicken, and get half chicken, half tofu tasting chicked
I'm gonna be annoyed
analog osprey
Its like if I go to a food place, order chicken, and get half chicken, half tofu...
You sound like you're speaking from experience
analog osprey
Its like if I go to a food place, order chicken, and get half chicken, half tofu...
I get it, in some points it just completely loses track of being a MH game for the sake of the story
Here's hoping the expansion will do it better
icy stump
For one, I am all in on the story aspect-
Like hell yea
Give me liberty, give m...
See I agree actually
I just hate that the cool lore dumps are buried under piles of cutscenes and slow glorified exposition dumps that both impede on multiplayer
Y'know, THE REASON MH WAS EVEN MADE TO BEGIN WITH
The like 10% of the game that's about guardians? Super cool
analog osprey
See I agree actually
I just hate that the cool lore dumps are buried under pil...
I've never really viewed MH as a strictly multiplayer game honestly
icy stump
||zoh relying on your personal MH experience to see fatalis moves and go "oh fuck THATS what they put into him?!?"|| Spectacular
analog osprey
Might js be cause I generally play solo
icy stump
I've never really viewed MH as a strictly multiplayer game honestly
I mean yeah, but at the same time it is a big selling point of the game
analog osprey
Then again
icy stump
Feels stupid to ham fist you into annoying work around to play it cooperative
analog osprey
Didn't Iceborne do the same
icy stump
"here's a cutscene before the hunt starts, everyone watches it, if y'all don't wanna, you can skip it"
Flawless fucking execution
Easy as FUCK
icy stump
Rise genuinely is my fav MH
Rise is tied with GU for me
icy stump
Then again I'm a psycho who plays that game so much I'm bringing alchemy style to EX deviants
icy stump
Honestly I'm the opposite
heady goblet
NOT a fan of World
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heady goblet
Iceborne (post TU) is fine
icy stump
IB with clutch claw scaling is aaaaaaaasss
Frankly I'm impressed they turned the whole weaken gimmick into wounds without fucking it up
analog osprey
IB with clutch claw scaling is aaaaaaaasss
Again, I'm probably speaking out of personal bias because I barely used the CC
icy stump
Right, same
analog osprey
Only if Monster hitzones pmo
heady goblet
Again, I'm probably speaking out of personal bias because I barely used the CC
I used it regularly, and the time difference it made in hunts pissed me off ngl
analog osprey
I used it regularly, and the time difference it made in hunts pissed me off ngl
Genuinely
Like what do you do against Monsters like Furious Rajang
icy stump
But it's annoying having a damn near flawless run take way longer then my sloppy runs in GU (cause let's be real 95% of worlds returning monsters just had their 4U/GU movesets) purely cause the HP bloat is THAT drastic
analog osprey
Who just punish you for hitting their bad hitzones Once
"oops looks like you hit a bad hitzone"
icy stump
Its kinda like how I'm not a fan of 10/9* quests basically always taking you at least 15-20 minutes even in a fullstack
analog osprey
Its kinda like how I'm not a fan of 10/9* quests basically always taking you at ...
I mean it's okay
icy stump
It just kinda drags on
analog osprey
At the end of the day we are playing Monster HUNTER not Monster SPEEDRUNNER
I am NOT built like speedrunners
icy stump
I get that but I think like 10 minutes for a average kill is like the ideal timeframe (for a endgame hunt)
analog osprey
Crazy people
icy stump
Shave a few off if youre good
Add a few off you're having a off day
heady goblet
I get that but I think like 10 minutes for a average kill is like the ideal time...
That's kinda real ngl
icy stump
Also
Not a fan of multiplayer scaling
Its weird how my times in a squad always feel about equal to if I'm playing by myself and I'm not a fan of it
Like imo it should be 1x, 1.25x, 1.5x, 2x
The current scaling feels like it doesn't reward you enough for going in multiplayer, cause if your times are the same then the only benefit to it is the lessened aggro (palico already can and does do that) and maybe more openings
But if you get someone who does easily then you effectively gain nothing and lose a lot more
With old scaling as long as they can put out enough damage they can entirely mitigate or negate the potential time loss from them getting bodied
Cause no matter what even if they only hit the monster one time that'd still be hypothetically a net DPS benefit, even if it's incredibly minute
Also unrelated
Fuck the radial dial, being unable to turn that off-off and being unable to set run and guard as the same input is ass for my muscle memory
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dire bison
i dont think in my entire life ive ever heard of mh double cross
dire bison
that is weird it would be named in english then
rose bison
localization stuff idk
plenty of games have japanese names that are different from the english names even tho its easily translated into english
analog osprey
It is GU
XX is literally the same thing as GU
๐ญ
Just localized name
Like 4U wasn't a thing in Japan
It was 4G
Generations was just X
heady goblet
XX is literally the same thing as GU
XX is technically the 3ds version of GU
heady goblet
Yeah, but it started as the Japanese/3ds version of GU
It also has a few quests GU doesn't
heady goblet
Considering they have 0 actual footage, and the take is stupid af, I gotta go with 10
analog osprey
https://vxtwitter.com/de3dsoul/status/2033755206672957521?s=20
Typical gen 1 glazer ๐
10/10 larp
"everything was better in Gen 1"
FUCK no
Gen 1 was HORRID
icy stump
https://fxtwitter.com/usadapekora/status/2034166825576239501
This vtuber knows ball
icy stump
https://vxtwitter.com/rei003793064075/status/2034136948605161575?s=20
All the aura
Kicking a monster to death will always be the greatest bit of comedy in a MH game
You gotta love HP gating to prevent monsters from dying but leaving them at 1 hp
sharp cedar
rose bison
the loading screen in between is the best part
hushed kelp
Bullfangos really aren't that different from real world boars lol
analog osprey
I did it w GL
analog osprey
Is there even any difference to it aside of just being "ranked"
icy stump
How is the free challenge scaled?
Is it always 4p scaled or what?
Or do support hunters screw with scaling
analog osprey
How is the free challenge scaled?
Well i did it Solo, so just 1p
icy stump
I got my A rank in a 4 man squad
icy stump
Well i did it Solo, so just 1p
With no support hunters?
icy stump
Yeah I think support hunters scale the thing right?
analog osprey
I did so much damage in the first 5 minutes I made it enter its 2nd phase before he even switched areas
icy stump
Yeah that happened on the a rank run I did
I think if you don't do enough damage to make him go back to the nest after he goes up to the area by the xu nest you just domt have enough time to win
Or at least get the A
analog osprey
Yeah I think support hunters scale the thing right?
I would assume so, they do scale every other monster so
icy stump
Free challenge quests sound fun I'm just annoyed they're locked to a certain time frame and don't come back
analog osprey
I think if you don't do enough damage to make him go back to the nest after he g...
Nono you do, it happened on my SnS run
Granted I did it in barely 21 Minutes
icy stump
Huh
analog osprey
But it's possible
analog osprey
Free challenge quests sound fun I'm just annoyed they're locked to a certain ti...
Well otherwise the pendants you get wouldn't be special
icy stump
Yeah I think I got sabotaged cause I left Support hunters on for my free challenge attempt
icy stump
Well otherwise the pendants you get wouldn't be special
I mean yeah but like that'd be a fun event quest reward drop
analog osprey
Well yeaa but at the same time the quests aren't really that special
Aside of being timed
So it's really whatever
dire bison
heard they semi announced a expansion for this game?
icy stump
Sometime in the summer ?
Iirc
Is when they'll announce it I think
Might get a teaser sooner rather than later
sharp cedar
wide oyster
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Fellas
I'm bored
Gimme suggestions for weapons I should learn in Wilds
I alr play Lance and GL
dire bison
combine them both and play super lance lance is the only weapons worth playing
rough aurora
Gimme suggestions for weapons I should learn in Wilds
charge blade
rose bison
swaxe has always had more than 2 moves
analog osprey
Okay okay
I semi know CB cause I used to play pre TU2 with Savage Axe
SwAxe will be a new experience
rose bison
might be a bit of a hot take but i think its more complicated than CB
man i gotta get back into rise and GU
analog osprey
might be a bit of a hot take but i think its more complicated than CB
From what I saw it seems like a more fluid weapon
Which utilizes it's morphs way more than CB
rose bison
that part is definitely true
CB it feels more like you're either playing mostly sword, with axe as a big finisher, or you're playing mostly axe with sword as a means to get into axe mode
rose bison
swaxe you're weaving inbetween the different modes much more often
like its honestly awesome how it works
analog osprey
Like I said I did play CB a few times with Savage Axe and sword mode really was just the means to an end
rose bison
im glad sword mode drains as fast as it does, cause it means you gotta actually use axe mode
and its like
also good for damage
you could play with just axe pretty easily if you wanted to for some reason
which i guess is true for CB too, but it would be more lame
i mean it would be lame with swaxe too cause you're missing out on half the moveset
analog osprey
i mean it would be lame with swaxe too cause you're missing out on half the move...
Yea but
icy stump
Gimme suggestions for weapons I should learn in Wilds
Embrace CLANG
On the note of CB I tried that in wilds the other day for the rathian arena quest cause I needed that coin for smth and playing it was weird
Having my X+A attack in axe mode not immediately go into big kaboom feels weird
Also I think they tied savage axe to wounds/power clashes??
analog osprey
https://tenor.com/view/sword-bonk-kids-fighting-gif-23618917
No Unga I will not play GS, I played it a bunch and while I see the appeal, its not for me
๐
analog osprey
You try wilds bow?
Yes
icy stump
I tried wilds bow for like a second and immediately put it down lol
analog osprey
Offsetting is cool and so is power clashing with a huge slab of iron
icy stump
The resource meter confused and scared me
analog osprey
But I'm not a fan of GS's general playloop
Yes I main arguably the most braindead weapon in the game
But there needs to be balance
I can't play 2 braindead weapons (skill floor wise)
icy stump
I still wish GS had valor styles dash swing instead of tackle ngl
Next portable team game hopefully ig
analog osprey
Next portable team game hopefully ig
Unga youve been coping w that for like a year now
icy stump
Year?
icy stump
Nah nah nah
You LOW BALLING that shit!
I was hoping for the valor dash swing as a switch skill back when they announced that was a gimmick is base rise
In that regard I'm 90% sure guard tackle was like the beta switch skill they made as a "proof of concept"
I feel like switch skills really took off later on in development in terms of moveset variability
Which is why I hope portable team keeps em for the next go around cause if they can expand on the idea and make em more varied that'd be sick
analog osprey
I think nothing will peak Hunter styles
wide oyster
(I don't have any good charms for SwAxe or CB)
all you need for swaxe is latent power 3
which is craftable
icy stump
Latent power 3? Is that like better on Swag axe or smth?
I got latent power 4 on my set rn between the two bale pieces I use
wide oyster
Latent power 3? Is that like better on Swag axe or smth?
yeah it's amazing
icy stump
why tho
Does the damage you negate off the counter proc it faster or smth?
wide oyster
you already fit every other meta skill on your build
and it adds some extra dps when it activates
if you have 2p at rey it gets even better
but I personally prefer 2p at nu
because of resentment
which procs on counter
icy stump
I see
analog osprey
which is craftable
Ik but I'm trying to roll for a Latent Power 3 and Burst 1 charm
With hopefully a 1 slot
rough aurora
i beat the main story of iceborne :D
wide oyster
congrats!
the postgame is amazing
hope you enjoy it
lot of really fun and challenging monsters
sharp cedar
topaz quartz
i beat the main story of iceborne :D
rough aurora
stygian zinogre was AWESOME
analog osprey
@lyric ravine
Still working on getting Dark Knight and Lord's Soul
(and on getting a better charm)
icy stump
Np lol
topaz quartz
Which Monster Hunter game are you playing now guys?
icy stump
<@434849685409234944> any specific tips for GS gameplay in Wilds
Uh lemme think
You can roll out of offsets charge
Uh tackling at the last second maintains your charge level
So if you hit level 2/tackle right before you get hit you can immediately let a lvl 2 rip
If you land a offset and don't get the offset to launch the monster tapping guard or rolling is the fastest way to go for another offset
Counterattack procs off tackles and offsets done successfully
Against endgame monsters I find that going for leaping wide slash after a focus strike is more safe than tryna do TCS unless you pop a tempered wound or smth like that, same thing goes for those weird attacks that repel your offset swing, if you do TCS they add a whole extra bit of windup to TCS, but leaping wide doesn't care
Guard up is nice to have at at least a level of
(ideally you have Smth like a guard 3, guard up 1 or vice a versa, really depends on if you want less chip damage or less stamina cost/knockback on non perfects)
Offensive guard is nice because the window is super generous for some reason
And it's hard to argue with a free 15%
Burst can be nice if you like doubling up on bale/shatterseal
Low-key, evade window is super nice cause that can let you be more greedy with attacks, but hit boxes in this game tend to linger so you can't get too overzealous
Don't try to focus mode block, just hold a direction and block, I find if you try focus mode blocking that screws you up more often that not, especially when trying to immediately guard on wakeup
Solo ghillie mantle sneak attacks are pretty good, dunno how they are for non GS weapons
wide oyster
Like "techs"
I'm not unga
but a piece of hidden gs tech
which has been kept in the game
so it might be intentional
is to buffer a direction after inputting any move
like forward
it lets you guard MUCH sooner
after it
so it can be great for when you swing and need to disengage as soon as possible
icy stump
Id imagine that's prolly like the same code that they have for roll canceling
wide oyster
yeah, you basically get put into a forward walk instantly
and you can instantly cancel forward walk into guard
analog osprey
Counterattack procs off tackles and offsets done successfully
This one I knew, I try to go somewhat fish for offsets with the build, as I also run Doshaguma might
analog osprey
Are there any valid uses for wide slash
And leaping wide slash
I don't see why I shouldn't just go TCS every time
rose bison
he did give you advice about that when you asked him for tips
analog osprey
^
Oop yea, sorry I just skimmed through the text as I viewed at like 12 my time and I was tired
https://tenor.com/view/metal-sonic-bootleg-bootleg-metal-sonic-dansen-sonic-gif-12414568145089366106
Do I prioritize crit boost
Or should I slot in something like guard/guard up
Rn i have Crit boost 5, I'd be a able to run lvl 3 and then some guard skills
Alternatively is one level of burst worth it
I have it because I had an empty slot
I'm thinking of taking it out for evade window
(yes I do have dark arts)
rose bison
has anyone else seen this in sunbreak
im not playing rn i was just going through my steam recordings and saw it
icy stump
Alternatively is one level of burst worth it
One level of burst is technically a attack boost, but unless you're running both the extra attacks on hit skill it's kinda not worth it
Even then it's kinda gimmicky
icy stump
Or should I slot in something like guard/guard up
If you're using a gog sword I think the ideal would be CB 3, some guard deco (ideally guard up/guard mixed) then Smth like offensive guard, then have your talisman make up the difference for Crit boost
But you could totally drop the offensive guard for more CB
Oh also focus
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Okay I'll have to find some way to get Agitator up then as I am using the Agitator charm rn
icy stump
Im used to using the shatterseal cause that has maxed focus and 3x 3tier slots
Guard is unnecessary but I like guard up cause it gives you a better out to the unblockables
Ideally I'd personally like a guard 3/Guard up 1 talisman cause that'd enable unblockables and reduces stamina /knockback on blocking, but ideally you shouldn't need guard cause you hypothetically perfect guard everything
Also speaking of, don't try to repeatedly perfect guard, no matter how hype it sounds, it's way more finnicky than you think
Generally the idea is you perfect block the second to last attack in a combo, start charging, perfect tackle the last one, and then hit the monster very hard
icy stump
Okay I'll have to find some way to get Agitator up then as I am using the Agitat...
As for agitator Jin dahaad gamma waist gives you alot
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Okay I'll see what I can do
I was thinking of getting Guard/Offensive Guard
As a deco
I'm def keeping focus
icy stump
Off the top of my head my set is head/arms gamma ark, chest legs bale, waist gamma dahaad
icy stump
I was thinking of getting Guard/Offensive Guard
I think guard up offensive guard is the best but the odds of that aren't great id imagine
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Off the top of my head my set is head/arms gamma ark, chest legs bale, waist gam...
I'm running Dosha waist and Gog alpha legs for Dosha Might
Powerclash and offsets for more damage
icy stump
Yeah
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I think guard up offensive guard is the best but the odds of that aren't great i...
Not Talisman, a deco
For Talisman I'll have to see
icy stump
Ah I see
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It's just that I have zero defensive utility aside of "git gud"
And locking in
(rolled through 2 AT Rey nukes)
icy stump
If you run mostly endgame sets you can basically face tank anything once
Except zoh shia super inferno he does as a phase shift I think cause it combos into itself for some reason
I wanna use dogoshumas might cause that sounds like a really fun set bonus but id have to drop either guts tenacity or the bale bonus
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Also idk if sent this yet but the fact that I can't get Dark Knight and Lord's Soul is pmo
icy stump
And the consistent 5% raw buff on guts tenacity is hella worth it
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And the consistent 5% raw buff on guts tenacity is hella worth it
Ik that's why I'm rolling for it
icy stump
Ah so this is the hell that is gog weapons
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Yep
icy stump
Yeah nah, I'll stick to my shatterseal methinks lmao
icy stump
I forget if guardian dogoshuma gets dogoshuma might
You could be very ballsy and run a heroics set lmao
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I forget if guardian dogoshuma gets dogoshuma might
I think he has fortifying pelt
icy stump
Nah I think fortifying pelt is the alpha/gamma set bonus for mixed sets, I think he gets the guardian equivalent to that
Cause guardian rath gets scorcher
Best part of the MR update is definitely gonna be seeing the guardian rathalos X armor ngl
icy stump
You can pull a
Just, never give up and try not to get eviscerated
(ignoring the fact heroics is a 2 slot skill so it's way easier to gem in than other skills)
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Okay I got cheat sheet in my head now for GS
Buffer movement inputs for attacks=faster guard
Roll out of offset is possible
After and offset/guard clash or wound pop preferably wide slash
Those are the 3 most important I'll be working in integrating into playing now
And generally working on my build
icy stump
The leaping wide is more of an option select thing more than anything
The hierarchy goes:
If big knock back happens, do the running cross slash, if not then you either have to decide between going for TCS or leaping wide
Generally you can't go wrong with leaping wide* but TCS is more lucrative
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Generally you can't go wrong with leaping wide* but TCS is more lucrative
Well yea more damsge
It's just GS has always been a one button wonder to me
No offense
icy stump
If fighting either dogoshuma roll after a wound pop and immediately charge offset unless you throw him down, he WILL counter attack you
Low-key kinda hope we get more fights like that in MR that's have specific patterns or quirks that shits cool
icy stump
"Sir, 20 bloodbaths have hit the desert environment"
"I'm gonna kneecap those rider fucks"
sharp cedar
wide oyster
it's a shame that the coolest weapon in the game is so underrepresented
sharp cedar
do they have a swaxe one
Thatโs a good one
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it's a shame that the coolest weapon in the game is so underrepresented
Idk
Beating giant monsters to death with an oversized bagpipe on a stick seems pretty cool to me
rose bison
it's a shame that the coolest weapon in the game is so underrepresented
i think its charge blade, but its close
icy stump
Rey Dao when grandpa starts arking
Nu uzi
icy stump
Jin dagat
hushed kelp
Doshotguma
When the Arkveld starts set tripping so the Zoh Shoota has to put him in his place
icy stump
Ak-veld
hushed kelp
Gatacabra
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Lala Baretta
icy stump
Gat magunla
rose bison
every time hellfire explodes it goes "ping!"
rose bison
bazelgeuse
hushed kelp
Tec9-adon
rose bison
RPGthalos
icy stump
True but I feel like the bluntness of just saying Cannon is too funny to pass up
icy stump
Khezip-22
rose bison
for some reason i cant think of a monster that starts with W
i know they exist
if im bored and not on my phone sometimes ill go through the alphabet and name a monster for every letter, and i can usually get all the way through
maybe i used a variant like white monoblos or smth
ahtal 74-ka
hushed kelp
Lavasawed-off
rose bison
planetarymissilesioth
icy stump
Average hip check hitbox
rose bison
yeah he had to have a pretty powerful weapon
theres a reason they made a move for him called subspace tackle in mhst
or was it hyperspace tackle?
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Decided not to continue w GS
It's just not my playstyle
I'm not enjoying myself playing it
It's a cool weapon
Just not for me
icy stump
Dang
rough aurora
i beat alatreon :)
icy stump
We need akantor back soon
Two games so far that had buffed minds eye with no good bludgeoneer weapon is a crime
neon pecan
rising is so good and then u get a rampage quest
rose bison
theres only like 3 in the whole game tho
and they're easy
and you dont ever need to do them again
i mean 3 required ones
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I need 3 tickets and I am SO not in the mood to hunt that chore of a monster
icy stump
Honestly yeah
Its crazy how normal dahaad is pretty fun, it's just AT feels way less fun
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Its crazy how normal dahaad is pretty fun, it's just AT feels way less fun
7000 aoe explosions
rose bison
https://tenor.com/view/dog-snow-dog-snow-snow-dog-dogsnow-gif-165589842650189437...
this is actually a really good gif
rose bison
curse of demeter
icy stump
curse of demeter
Someone's gotta get grannies angry snake dog under control, someone get me the industrial grade power washer
topaz quartz
icy stump
Alatreon
rose bison
good.
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If Tigrex is in the DLC I will personally skin the Dev team
I do not need more of Tigrex
topaz quartz
this fight is so fun
Alatreon fight >>>>> fatalis fight
sharp cedar
icy stump
Ballin
rough aurora
finally
fighting fatalis with charge blade suuucks
rough aurora
Girlfriend is goated
im kinda tempted to get a switch 2 as well
topaz quartz
Girlfriend is goated
I remember when I had a girlfriend
topaz quartz
finally
fighting fatalis with charge blade suuucks
fighting fatalis sucks
rose bison
i got the peakest armor in mhr
also i unlocked risen elders
had to fight scorned magnamalo for it and that fight is sick dude
way easier than most of the monsters ive been grinding but still very cool
and very fun
icy stump
Yeah scorned feels kinda big standard by the time you hit mr 100 cause he's base roster
So he didn't get any power creep
hushed kelp
Oh right, Malzeno armor
I had been waiting to get primordial armor. I should get back into Rise, but there's so many games I wanna be playing
rose bison
I had been waiting to get primordial armor. I should get back into Rise, but the...
it took me a very long time
wheat nova
I had been waiting to get primordial armor. I should get back into Rise, but the...
Primo Mal scares me
hushed kelp
It's a pretty intimidating guy
rose bison
he's the hardest fight in the game not counting anomaly stuff
very fun tho i love him
hushed kelp
Sadly don't have it, Namielle is so cool
lilac thunder
When the monster is hunted
icy stump
Hunting hunting hunting
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Man y'know what'd be really fucken awesome not that I'm thinking about it
If styles came back imagine if GS kept offset rising slash and if you do the parry you get to do the adept dash off that or a normal evade
That'd be so fucken cool
topaz quartz
heady goblet
south tapir
sharp cedar
hushed kelp
Isn't that supposed to be glavenous just to the left of Rathalos?
dire bison
acoustic walrusBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/nokotan/s/3iTKg4F1c0
topaz quartz
icy stump
https://vxreddit.com/r/nokotan/s/3iTKg4F1c0
The MH devs had to know what they were doing making that armor set and making the monster you get it from the biggest Piece of shit to fight
They had to
sharp cedar
hushed kelp
acoustic walrusBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1ttz0ky/happy_pride_month_from_m...
sharp cedar
acoustic walrusBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1tu19xm/potential_spoilers_for_w...
sharp cedar
namielle?
icy stump
Nah nami has a weird 4th pinky toe
I almost wanna say lao
4 digits including the thumb on the hand
Would prolly be good subterfuge too
Cause like lao inherently is a wumbo monster
But the imprint there is smaller
Lao with the modern tech of being able to run on the monsters could be interesting even tho that tech has existed since at least GU
But I feel like lao could be a good fit
He's just big enough to be comparable to say jin
I feel like they could totally bring back the sand whales in the normal desert map
Maybe do a Lagi and add a extra area beyond the dunes or smth
Did nervi have three fingers and a thumb?
rose bison
Nah nami has a weird 4th pinky toe
you can literally see the head, its nami
and the comb jelly antennae
its just very obviously namielle
i would be more excited if i cared about wilds but im a little bit excited regardless
namielle is just such a peak design
hushed kelp
I guess the assumption is that Nami's tiny pinky wouldn't have left an imprint
heady goblet
I will be killing myself over Kushala inclusion
dire bison
chat was saying the big bad was someone with lou in their name
heady goblet
Lao Shan Lung
sharp cedar
dire bison
looks slow and fat
heady goblet
That's because he is
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https://vxtwitter.com/VGNWnet/status/2063023744499478780?s=20
Launching 2027
It's okay
icy stump
OH FUCK YEAH LMAO
I FUCKING CALLED IT!
Noooo
Nope I bought into the hype with base wilds
I must maintain my rational
And reason
SO THATS WHERE THE DMC DEVS WENT
Mainline team better not fuck this up
wheat nova
https://tenor.com/view/nero-gif-13536606
Hand rev slingshot
night ledge
https://vxtwitter.com/VGNWnet/status/2063023744499478780?s=20
elders.
wheat nova
Thanks Capcom for giving me another year to finish all the things I want to finish in baeegame
sharp cedar
<:MaySad:909908482990428200> elders.
you like the new mechanics shown
icy stump
Hand rev slingshot
Ok hear me out
It looks like you have to rev it up
Like red queen
So
Potentially
Max act
Max act could be in
If it is I'm gonna be over the moon
I kinda doubt it
But like
Offsets inherently are kind of based on dmc1>onwards parring specifically (needing to swing your attack into their to parry it) so maybe
Maybe mainline team does the coolest shit
night ledge
you like the new mechanics shown
i have no frame of reference for them so idk
sharp cedar
its an install state
doesn't last forever
they plan to add more attacks along side it
its also called boost bracer
hushed kelp
Hunter of Monster: Skyward Lore
heady goblet
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wide open spaces
high up
we all know whos coming back
my goat
wait
guardian Val
icy stump
its an install state
So it's valor mode two point o
You get a crackhead version of your moveset for a short time frame for the cost of...?
hushed kelp
Giving more money to Capcom
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You get a crackhead version of your moveset for a short time frame for the cost ...
Probably nothing
Id assume it's a resource like Wire bugs
icy stump
From what it sounds like it's a hunting tool
Which if so is gonna suck ngl
Because that fundamentally ties you're ability to do cool shit to a timer you can only reduce with one skill
Also if it has to compete with other hunting tools in your ONE mantle slot all the other things are either gonna have to be buffed, OR they're gonna get power crept to hell
Cause why use a mantle when you can amp your moveset
Easiest way to deal with that is let us actually switch off the guillie mantle (seriously Capcom, TF were you thinking on that one)
Unless it gets its own slot?
But then that's still gonna lead to the annoyance of having your cool shit moveset tied to a factor beyond your control
Like something like valor style works at its best when youre ability to play well is the main limiting factor to how often you get to pop off with it
I mean hell that's like half the reason alchemy style isn't as good as it realistically should be, because it needs time to be good, because your meter gain rate isn't a ton even if you play well
Or more specifically you don't get a good meter gain rate until you get a alchemy booster which is a tier 3 item
I think the idea of a boost brace is neat tho I just dunno how well implemented it's gonna be
Considering ib's clutch claw implementation
Best case scenario boost brace here functions like diet/streamlined valor style, wherein it acts like a specialized tool like a mantle with a very long passive cooldown (maybe 15 minutes to put it far in aways ahead of all other passive recoveries on the mantles) but in exchange the cool down can be reduced with damage
So like 15 minutes by 60 seconds is 900 seconds overall, so maybe make it so each 50 damage you deal shaves off a second or something (so you'd need to deal 45,000 damage to get the cooldown back)
This combined with the passive cooldown inherently to well, it being a passive cooldown makes it so you'd be able to get it online a few times within a hunt assuming you played well, while also Massively rewarding tool specialist users with a even shorter-er cool down
I hope we get some other bracers it seems like a fun idea
I could see the boost bracer being a balance of mobility/offense, then getting one that leans into one half of that gimmick harder (one that increases the moveset even more and one that increases your mobility even more)
The more they lean into moveset variety the better imo
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From what it sounds like it's a hunting tool
a hunting tool with charges
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Because that fundamentally ties you're ability to do cool shit to a timer you ca...
i mean ts was basically wirebugs
icy stump
Oh they confirmed that?
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Oh they confirmed that?
no, im guessing
icy stump
Oh lmao
Charges would be cool ngl
Like if you have say, 5 and each has a cooldown of 200 seconds lets say that'd be a interesting thing to play around
Cause like you wanna use em so you constantly have some that could be refilled or something
But also you might wanna save one or two for a certain situation
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if they do charges, which i feel is most likely they'd do like 3
similar with wirebugs
maybe expandable with skills
icy stump
Personally I think it'd be cool if (going back to the DMC reference I made when I saw it) if it acted like red queen from DMC somewhat
So like you have to manually charge it while not attacking* but upon doing so you get a amped moveset for a short time
Doubly so if they add new moves that let you charge it mid combo, like max acting in DMC as Nero
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another idea id be a fan of would be that it goes off of your slinger ammo
i always thought the slinger + ammo should see more viability and usage generally
icy stump
(for him for reference you Max act by hitting the rev button as your sword normal connects basically which automatically either maxxed the exceed gauge or gives you one pip depending on the timing)
icy stump
i always thought the slinger + ammo should see more viability and usage generall...
Honestly I could see it but I feel like that's gonna be cheesable
Like the zoh shia arena gives you like, 10 piles
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Doubly so if they add new moves that let you charge it mid combo, like max actin...
i could see them doing it with offsets/counters
icy stump
Yeah exactly
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Like the zoh shia arena gives you like, 10 piles
well eh
fair
hypotheticals aside, i am REALLY excited for Ascendance
icy stump
i could see them doing it with offsets/counters
I mean offsets are already kinda built on DMCs day one parry system (swinging into a attack to parry it) so expanding on that parallel isn't unreasonable
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also something i noticed
seikret got bigger
like in the trailer it has a bigger wingspan and quite longer legs
icy stump
hypotheticals aside, i am REALLY excited for Ascendance
Im mixed on it cause on one hand
It looks cool as hell
On the other IB really kinda sucked as a mr expansion balancing wise, and wilds already was kinda eh
Maybe they lock in and make peak? Idk
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Im mixed on it cause on one hand
It looks cool as hell
On the other IB really ...
id think its gonna be peak
icy stump
like in the trailer it has a bigger wingspan and quite longer legs
I could see them having our seikrets get older to account for the extra gliding
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bias because i enjoyed wilds but they really got their bearings
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I could see them having our seikrets get older to account for the extra gliding
definitely
icy stump
Launch Wilds really left a bad taste in my mouth tbh
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like i might be tweaking but look at the seikret in the trailer and tell me it doesnt look older/more mature
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Launch Wilds really left a bad taste in my mouth tbh
that is honestly fair
icy stump
I feel like the feathers are more blue ha the default one
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i didnt have those issues cause well ocnsole
icy stump
God they're making a switch 2 version of this game lmao
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I feel like the feathers are more blue ha the default one
the legs and wings genuinely seem longer to me
icy stump
That shits gonna blow up
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Me chucking my Switch 2 at the intruders after Wilds release
i really got the motivation to play Wilds again ngl
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https://tenor.com/view/invincible-rex-splode-gif-10919275010047558016
perfect reference, how didnt i think of Rex
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That shit gonna be a genuine bomb
i get the feeling the release is either gonna be fried af or they're gonna delay the release
regardless, i hope Ascendance releases in Q1 of 2027
icy stump
Genuinely once they get that online tho they should retroactively let everyone else download that version so it can run better lmao
icy stump
regardless, i hope Ascendance releases in Q1 of 2027
I'm betting on a January release
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WE, yes WE will blackmail Capcom if they dont release it in January
icy stump
Cause like what, wilds was March 2025?
And they started working on the dlc while dlc was being added to wilds
So that's over a year and a half
Closer to two really
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well im looking forward to reveals for the game honestly
CAPCOM
GIVE ME GUARDIAN VALSTRAX AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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i want a blue flame Val
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As a fellow old head, how do you feel about lao
its either a humongous flop or the most fun fight in wilds thus far
no inbetween
icy stump
i want a blue flame Val
Valstrax with both the blue guardian and red dragon energy would be hype
Also it'd be funny cause that'd mean valstrax would be 3-3 on appearing in a game but not in his normal version
icy stump
its either a humongous flop or the most fun fight in wilds thus far
Honestly fair
Please
My biggest hope is we can actually offset him
You can't offset hog and that pisses me off so much
It's be so hype and aura
icy stump
Real
I admittedly am one of those weirdos who actually liked the lao fight in gu but also that's probably because I enjoy partaking in alchemy style
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well the last phase where he actually decided to take a little break on his jog to fight you for real was cool
icy stump
Tbf is he really even fighting you?
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i mean
icy stump
I feel like he's moreso fighting the barrier
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he isnt running anymore
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I feel like he's moreso fighting the barrier
well he still attacks YOU directly
alongside the barrier
icy stump
Genuinely I kinda feel bad for him
Everytime we kick the shit out of him it's cause he's running from something else
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on the topic of that
icy stump
In the early games it was fatty, in gu it was atal
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I hope if they bring back Zoh they go more indepth into its shapeshifting/DNA-Morph ability
icy stump
That or the inevitable new threat of a final boss
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like let Zoh go full Ben 10 on us
icy stump
A zoh that pulls a arkveld and becomes its own independent species sounds rad as hell
I could see that being a post release tu like safi
Ok wait
Fantastic idea
Convergent evolution
So zoh is (presumably) made of at least fatty and possibly some other Ed parts right?
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imagine Zoh, who actually succeeds in absorbing the dragon torch and basically "downloads" the "blueprints" for the other guardians we've encountered and using their abilities
icy stump
This update elder dragons actually start showing up in the forbidden lands
As they exist there and die, they inadvertently power up the wyrm way or some shit and zoh gets their bio energy
Like what happens in the new world with xeno
So we get a xeno shia
icy stump
imagine Zoh, who actually succeeds in absorbing the dragon torch and basically "...
We're on the same wavelength
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yk what i thought about
icy stump
One being naturally made while the other is a unintended artificial recreation is a cool idea
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Zoh looks a lot like a Thrown together arts and crafts project
icy stump
And it'd live up to the concept of a alien looking dragon that safi jiva absolutely shit on
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it looks unnatural
icy stump
Ye
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which honestly
obvious take
cause that was the intention
but consider i play most games like this
i just go monkey mode
icy stump
Him getting a form that he grows into that's like safi jiva that makes it look more fully realised could be cool too tbh
Personally I think it'd be neat if at some point they mention that the fatalis bit of his DNA splits off and reforms on its own (explaining a potential final boss fatty), leaving behind the shell of the zoh frame which in turn self actualizes itself like arkveld did (thanks to its proximity and connection to the dragon torch) could be a really fun idea
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Personally I think it'd be neat if at some point they mention that the fatalis b...
honestly unga
thats such a crazy cool idea
like the mythos of Fatty armor forming into new Fatty
icy stump
Turning it into like a mini alatreon where it has mastery over every element (ala all the other guardian data) could be cool, and a fun expansion of his inherent wylk crystal generation mechanic
And you could explain it away as the fatty DNA was so overpowering it mostly relied on his elements
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yk that sukuna takes over Megumi's body?
icy stump
Emme guess