#Monster Hunter

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heady goblet
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What's the weapon skill

wide oyster
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getting an extra 50 damage on hits is nice, but, since GS is a relatively slow weapon, idk how usefull it'll be

sharp cedar
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White flame torrent

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A chance to deal extra damage

heady goblet
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I see

wide oyster
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I think it's better on weapons like dual blades

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than GS

sharp cedar
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It’s like blast

wide oyster
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because 50 is too low

icy stump
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It allegedly stacks with scorcher somewhat

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Which is good for me

night ledge
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Its good with weapons that hit alot and deal damage that way

icy stump
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Mah GS gets shat on yet again

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I'm sad flayer kinda sucks cause I think a flayer/partbreaker build could be fun

wide oyster
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at least the Artian GS looks cool

night ledge
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I use flayer pb on ls

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Its noticeablely less dps but makes farming/just surviving much easier

wide oyster
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the Zoh Shia set seems really good for that

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good skills + comfort set bonus

icy stump
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Might retool my set to use flayer at the least

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I don't like how WeX encourages me to Not pop wounds instantly

night ledge
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You shouldn't be poping wounds instantly anyways

icy stump
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Nuh uh

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I see dat shit I'm popping it posthaste

icy stump
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That's a free tvs right there!

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The fuck Imma do not go for it?!?

night ledge
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A wound is a free stagger

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A wound also deals more damage when you hit it

icy stump
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Don't worry I time it to right before a attack happens anyway cause I suck at aiming the focus strikes lol

night ledge
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If i see you poping a wound when the monster is down I'm beating sol with the nerf stick again

icy stump
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Just fucking kill me at that point

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THE WOUNDS POP ANYWAYS WHEN I HITTEM, MIGHT AS WELL GET A FREE TCS OFF

dire bison
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so much talking about blood pops i thjought i was in the nago channel

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dire bison
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you havnt played monster hunter till you fucked up someones explody barrel plans by accident

icy stump
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Alchemy fireball my beloved

night ledge
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i think there'll be a torrent of people using this skill

0:00 Introduction to Whiteflame Torrent / Zoh Shia Weapons
2:21 How Whiteflame Torrent Works
4:02 Whiteflame Torrent and Scorcher
6:14 Estimating Whiteflame Torrent Damage
9:14 So is it good??! / Summary and Conclusions

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▶ Play video
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Little click baity but good info on how the skill works

icy stump
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Yo wait

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Hollup

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15%?

dire bison
icy stump
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Ngl

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The zoh HR fight sucks

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The fucken Toaster roaster blast into charged fireball is a checkmate and a half

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Cause both do like 50%

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And you can't really evade either

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I think I realized why this game feels so weird

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Monsters don't hit you with hard knockdowns anymore and you really feel it in zohs hr fight

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If I could just sit down a sec and dodge the charge fireball it'd be less annoying

wide oyster
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I don't feel that way

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I though that Zoh had a good amount of hkds

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and I dodged a bunch of his attacks by just staying on the ground

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like the lightning and charged fireballs

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I thought the fight was pretty fair

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but also hard

sharp cedar
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It feels good

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Way easier than fatalis

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But it’s like the fatalis one but more fair

icy stump
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It's weird

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Also I swapped my build for flayer 4 instead of WeX, id rather get more wounds and pop em more than to not pop em asap

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I feel like this game has a lot of visual noise that makes shit hard to tell

analog osprey
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First time HR Zoh Shia experience:

night ledge
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maybe the ranged zoh weapons are good...

icy stump
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I've decided to run a bludgeoneer flayer build with adrenaline rush and EW

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And a itty bit of part breaker

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As a treat

toxic brook
azure fox
hushed kelp
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I mean, tbf the only other fight where the stuff that drops down isn't to protect you is Alatreon

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All the other times in MH barriers are for your protection (ie: Fatalis, Behemoth, Geismagorm, safijiva, etc)

icy stump
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That shits evil game design

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I think I've come around on zoh fight wise again

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I just had to lock tf in

toxic brook
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And i was wrongful to disagree

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sharp cedar
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holy shit

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the zoh shia hunting horn is really cool

toxic brook
night ledge
icy stump
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HR or LR

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LR isn't too bad, but HR can be a bit of a bastard

night ledge
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MR

icy stump
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Dawg how tf?

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Your dad works at Capcom?!?

icy stump
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Is it still zoh shia or did they pull a Worldborne and drop zoh shia for a upgraded form?

night ledge
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Its actually a just really small zoh shia that runs around really fast

icy stump
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Honestly

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Prolly would fix my main issue with that fight of all the moves having humungo hitboxes

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I swear the wilds monsters were designed like rise monsters SOLKEKW

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Like for fucks sake
||Gore has the power wave move from chaotic!||

night ledge
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No like ankle height

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But the fireballs are bigger

icy stump
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What about that rear up directly down flamethrower move

Like the toaster roaster 9000

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That into charged fireballs is prolly one of the most nasty combos I've ever seen from a monster

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Cause both do about 50%

eternal gale
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wilds chapter one

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did these devs play half life

heady goblet
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Probably not idk

hushed kelp
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Too much floof

icy stump
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I got a whole part of lobby to prance in MHwilds

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High art

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It was even funnier cause for a bit people were just watching me prance and all one by one were like "eh why not"

dire bison
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this chat would be cooler if you guys posted yourself doing stuff like this

icy stump
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Can't I'm too busy tryna figure out a way to smuggle pipe bombs out of the bowling area in the hub

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Also ngl

The dude armor for zoh shia legs looks kinda goofy

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Goofy aaaaaah zebra print

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Also gotta say Mizu is great in wilds

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Just straight up porting the Gen Fight and adding soulseer shit in was definitely the play

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I do hope if we get a arc tempered they go the extra mile and make the gamma set the actual soul seer set

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Offsetting the tempered bubble drop/stinger he does is pay back for all the times that shit team wiped my squad in GU during the fucken EX fight

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Also I love how a genuine strat for GS offsets is to turn away from the monster if you start it too early, cause that lets you offset doing the animation of the sword coming back down

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Which is genuine peak

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The only thing I don't like about offsets are how they vary

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Sometimes you send the monster rolling

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Other times not

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And sometimes you actually take damage while other times nah

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Etc

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If I had to guess I think they programmed it so theres the actual hit on the attack itself, and then there's the "offset hitbox" which is there purely to determine whether or not you offset a incoming attack or not

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(cause I've had time where the rising slash hits, does damage, but then the monster swings into the sword at the higher part of its arc and then gets parried)

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From there I gotta figure out what cause the full knockback or the non existent knockback

dire bison
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toxic brook
icy stump
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Bubble drop be like

analog osprey
icy stump
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Ngl

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Arkveld makes me irrationally annoyed

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I stg that MFer has weird moves

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Like the hooked wing swipe I stg is a crossup, cause when I try to directly block it I get hit

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Fuck monsters with baked in crossups

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That shit evil

topaz quartz
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A friend told me that Mizutsune can kill you with one hit.

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true?

icy stump
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Tempered yes

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And normal if your gear isn't up to snuff

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Unfortunately for the bubbly bastard I've developed a sixth sense to foresee bubble drop and bubble stinger

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He cannot hurt me, and Instead eat a offset for his sins

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Oh how the turns tabled

night ledge
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T. Mizu is very scary if you're under 350def and/or using a ranged weapon

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T. Mizu is regular scary if youre +350 def and using a melee weapon

wide oyster
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5* T.Mizu is terrifying

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especially with a slow weapon

night ledge
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Ikr

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Ls is so slow

wide oyster
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exactly

icy stump
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All that fucking time on GU

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Paying dividends rn

wide oyster
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I just pick swaxe and spam the same move 30 times

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as the weapon does

icy stump
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Man

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That sucks to hear

wide oyster
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swaxe is super fun until you build amp

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it then becomes a one-move simulator

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after that point

icy stump
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I hope it gets the GS treatment next Gen and uncentralizes it

wide oyster
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it's funny, because that's exactly what rise did

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but they went back on those changes for wilds

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anyways, at least GS is fun

icy stump
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Wilds GS is prolly the most fun Ive had with the Baseline GS moveset in a while

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Like I still think I like valor/surge slash more

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But it's up there

heady goblet
toxic brook
toxic brook
rare knot
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I'm really glad musashi came back for wilds

icy stump
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@craggy dust did you just hunt a arkveld with a guy named John or nah?

craggy dust
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Must’ve been some other thedoc

icy stump
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I thought you got it lmao

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My bad G

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Also unrelated

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I fucking get it now

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They should NOT have given me a parry

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Biggest mistake possibly ever

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The poor fucking rathalos stand no chance!

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Their survival percentage was already in the single digits

Now they're in the hundredth place of percentages SOLKEKW

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Prolly the best iteration of the GS parry if I'll be honest

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I was helping someone with HR keys and was RIPPING through the 4 area apexes

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They had no shot!

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None!
Cause I smacked that shit aside with my big fuck off sword!

icy stump
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Man I hope akantor and ukanlos show up and Akantor weapons all have Bludgeoneer/ minds eye 3 baked in

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I feel like Akantor weapons with bludgeoneer and new Minds eye could go hard as hell tbh

toxic brook
icy stump
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Partbreaker vs the cephalopods sounds awesome ngl

icy stump
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Yeah nah I miss the old smaller lobbies

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I miss having genuine interaction

desert geyser
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I'm honestly too afraid to even be in the bigger lobbies cause I feel like my laptop will blow up, so I just don't join them

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So I can't really say on that matter, but I would assume 4 person lobbies are more fun

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Or maybe like 8 person lobbies idk

icy stump
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The best part of big lobbies is getting a whole group of like 20 or so to do the prance emote

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By doing it yourself and waiting

icy stump
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Bruh I was aura farming on zoh shia ass today

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On the attack we're it throws up da rocks and does the turbo toaster roasted amped by those I played hella foozies with the fire sitting just outta range bonking him

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But the most disrespectful thing was me rolling into the normal toaster roaster at just perfect timing to iframe the last bit of the move to proc adrenaline rush while simultaneously getting a extra bit of opening to wail on him

feral jackal
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I got four perfect blocks in a row against Zoh Shia explosions and I’m standing here like

“Try again bitch”

clear frigate
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Would yall say Monster hunter world would be a good starter game?

sharp cedar
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yeah

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wilds is probably better

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but if you want to get into the series as a whole world would be better

clear frigate
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Yeah cuz rn I don't have enough money for Wilds but I do have enough for world

sharp cedar
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then world is fine

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rise is also fine

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they both have expansions you can get

icy stump
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Personally I'm in the rise camp

sharp cedar
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which is like an entire games worth of content

icy stump
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But you do what you want

sharp cedar
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i think i like fighting zoh shia more than arkveld

sharp cedar
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it feels more satisfying

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still hard or maybe harder but it feels better than arkveld

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arkveld feels frustrating but not hard

rancid grove
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zoh shia has insane damage (which is a given considering it was made to stop fatalis) but doesn't feel cheap
arkveld looks like it defies the universal rules lol

sharp cedar
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insane reach that doesn't seem like it should reach, good attacks thats got weird timing to it while also hitting multiple times, a actually good grab

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its a solid design but it feels like it was made to be frustrating

icy stump
icy stump
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Like moves that feel like they should hit earlier dont

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Or moves that need to be blocked weird

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Like the hook swing he does I think needs to be blocked backwards case the hitbox goes around your hunter

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Unless of course you're far enough back, in which case you gotta block it foward

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Honestly I've given up blocking it and just throw my sword into it now

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Much better really

feral jackal
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I’d argue Rise is better to start because the combat can be a little more engaging and the game can be more “get up and go”

icy stump
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True

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Rise is faster than world

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Wilds is also surprisingly fast, (moreso on quest completion time than actual in game speed) but it's still pretty fast

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It's kinda funny cause id argue some things the monsters do in wilds feel like rise-isms

heady goblet
rare knot
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So what's y'all's takes on wilds now that the games been out for a bit?

heady goblet
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It's sick

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But has issues

icy stump
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Good game that's marred by inconsistency

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The peaks are peak

rare knot
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Cool, but also damn

icy stump
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The lows
Are pretty low

rare knot
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I still need to pick it up

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I'd feel bad cheating on GU tho

heady goblet
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GU my beloved

icy stump
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Low rank kinda sucks if you wanna play with friends cause of the dogshit plot they make you sit through

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(seriously the cutscene/ride bird dog whilst getting monologued at shit should not be there what the hell)

rare knot
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Yeah I still can't believe they did that shit

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I haven't played but I would have a hard time sticking around for that shit

icy stump
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And I'm really mad like 95% of the plot is mid shit I couldn't give a damn about, while the last like 5% is actually really fucken cool world building

rare knot
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How's the late game tho?

icy stump
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That and the big lobbies are a double edged sword

heady goblet
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Late game is like all base HR titles

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Half baked, but enjoyable

icy stump
rare knot
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I gotcha lol

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I hope the g rank really lays it down. I also hope they make HBG fun again

icy stump
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The big lobbies let you bang out quests fast

rare knot
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Though I doubt that'll happen

heady goblet
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HBG is kinda wack I won't lie

rare knot
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HBG looks unbelievably boring

heady goblet
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But then again Pierce is on top so we're so back

icy stump
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But you don't have much social interaction, it's all basically just hunts

rare knot
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I'm sure it's still good. But like, no siege mode?

heady goblet
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Not yet

icy stump
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Yeah I never got that

rare knot
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Also the ammo reworks, like having infinite default ammo types, really bothers me.

heady goblet
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I hope we get Gogmazios as the big siege

icy stump
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Why would they remove the thing that differentiates HBG and LBG

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Oh that reminds me

rare knot
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Call me a gatekeeper, but to me, the tradeoff of gunner weapons being good was having to spend all the time and money building for the right ammo types, and then crafting and buying those ammo types

heady goblet
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Yep

icy stump
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Being unable to bind run and guard to the same input or not being able to turn off radial menus sucks ass

rare knot
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Having all ur important ammo by default is kinda dumb

heady goblet
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Along with lower defenses

rare knot
icy stump
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It'd be so fucking simple to make run and guard the same input and then just make RT focus strikes

rare knot
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Rise at least kinda brought seiging back

heady goblet
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Which HBG having natural shield kinda blasts to shreds

rare knot
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Yeah that's kinda dumb too

icy stump
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Also lowkey

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I feel like these monsters were designed by the portable team with how big their attacks can be

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Which admittedly can be kind of annoying if you got a normal evade cause this stuff does not feel designed for this

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Granted I grabbed the rath set which got retooled into a evasion based set which makes it more my speed but still

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i want a apology from all the mainline team fans who said rise was too anime, fucken both raths got deviant ass moves in wilds

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And it's not just them!

heady goblet
icy stump
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Doesn't frontier kinda expect you to have evade skills ?

heady goblet
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Which makes it even more PEAK RAAAAAAAAH

heady goblet
icy stump
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Oh also skills

icy stump
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I feel like the roll in rise/wilds is too stubby

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Like rise at least you have the bugs at default but still

icy stump
# icy stump Oh also skills

Splitting armor and weapon skills i don't think is a bad idea conceptually, I just think the execution is kinda meh in wilds

heady goblet
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Yeah

icy stump
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Cause the way I saw it initially was weapons got flat buffs

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Armors got conditionals or QoL skills

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Which honestly

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Not a bad idea

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Why the fuck are literally all the guard skills on weapons

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Both guard and guard up are QoL skills

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And offensive guard is a conditional

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Why the hell isn't bludgeoneer/minds eye armor skills? They're conditional effects

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I could go on through and point out weird outliers

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It just doesn't feel like consistent logic

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Also personally I feel like bringing 2 of the same weapon type should give you some kind of buff

heady goblet
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Would be interesting

icy stump
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I think a fun idea is making it so whatever skills are innate to the weapons themselves (not decos) get applied to both weapons no matter what

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Granted

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That'd prolly just become artisans bringing extra weapons as a stat stick

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But still

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You'd have some extra build variety, but not so much it's op

heady goblet
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I'm gonna be real I think weapon decos and skills should apply to both because I want to have more skills on my build

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Just because I think it would be really broken

icy stump
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Also

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Entirely personal gripe here

heady goblet
icy stump
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I'm made we don't have a weapon that can use bludgeoneer really well yet

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Cause this is arguably the best game for it

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Best I can get rn is the G.Dogoshuma GS with Minds eye3 bludgeoneer 3 and a lvl of Crit eye to offset (heh) the -20% affinity

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Is it too much to ask to get a weapon with 270-80 raw and innate green? Without needing to spend like half the fight grinding off my blue sharness

heady goblet
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Apparently

icy stump
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Please

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Please say someone leaked Akantor

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I need my like 250 raw, innate green, 45% affinity slab of scales

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Honestly for later updates to this game I hope we get armor skills that give flat buffs, that come with downsides

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Like a skill that buffs raw by like 10% at max rank, but doubles sharpness consumption etc

desert geyser
dire bison
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Does the kid really say some shit

desert geyser
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You will never not see me crap on Wilds story. Like that genuinely made me think "Yeah I'd rather do hw" on the 2nd day of release. High rank saves it, but it still feels incomplete

icy stump
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||I don't care you relate to the monster being chained to fate or whatever. IT. MURDERED. YOUR. FAMILY. YOU. DUMB. CHILD!!!||

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||AND ITS GOING INSANE, OF FUCKING COURSE IM GONNA KILL IT||

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||# ITS MY FUCKING JOB NAME, DESCRIPTION, AND TITLE!!!||

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The coolest parts of this game are the lore expansions/implications

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Hence the cool 5% of the plot

sharp cedar
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its just a line he repeats when you get near him

dire bison
icy stump
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Like genuinely the plot is like 90% random shit that's a throwaway line in any other good MH, but here its extrapolated to several minutes of exposition

Then you have the The end of the plot starting with the revelation ||oh shit! Artificial monster made by the ancient civilization! Neat!||

||IS THAT THE EQUAL DRAGON WEAPON?!?||

||AND ITS PART FATALIS?!? THE FUCK?!?||

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And then it's over

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The plot is cool for the last like 5 minutes

dire bison
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ok but what about the chill little guy

icy stump
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And of course the cool part isn't explicitly rammed down your throat via 20 minutes of exposition it's shown in gameplay

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||guardians don't eat or sleep or nothing, they recharge at those wylk pools||

||And the EDW being part fatalis thing is shown entirely through gameplay||

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And thats cool!

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Unfortunately every thing else in the plot is just there to annoy you and artificially expand the games LR length

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My favorite characters are the wud wuds because they have a certain "head empty" energy I respect

sharp cedar
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you seem like a hype moments and aura kind of a guy

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i respect it

icy stump
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Pog thanks

night ledge
icy stump
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Fair

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But at least if I'm not using a guide there I'm wasting time hunting monsters

eternal gale
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Ot took me 20 minutes to say out loud 'did these devs play half life'

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I understand you want to idiot proof your game and show off your world but that's what a set peice is for not pokemon snap for the 15 minutes it takes to get to a monster

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Palamutes were better than sekiret fuck spelling that right

rare knot
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seikret is so boring

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I hated the autopilot in the beta

sharp cedar
rancid grove
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the only thing I like about nergi is that breaking its bone spikes is damn satisfying

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especially the ruiner variant

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other than that, it didn't grow on me much

icy stump
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Heh

azure fox
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It’s true he’s so fucking cool

heady goblet
heady goblet
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They put Mezeporta in Wilds we're so back

icy stump
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Oh grand hub?

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It really kinda is isn't it?

heady goblet
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Zoh Shia is kinda an asshole eh?

icy stump
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EE helps a shitton

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I said it once I'll say it again

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These fights are designed like rise fights and as such feel like you kinda should have move schmovement options for em

heady goblet
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I won't lie I'm tempted to drop some Wex in order to get EE

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Granted

icy stump
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So real

heady goblet
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I think I can do that and keep my Wex

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But I'm tempted

icy stump
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(literally not running WeX personally lmao)

heady goblet
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I'm at like

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90~ affinity after Wex with my current build

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Got CB 5 too

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It's actually insane how big a damage boost it is

icy stump
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I got adrenaline rush/counterstrike/EW/EE/Constitution on my build all maxed with attack boost and focus on a artisan GS

heady goblet
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This is gonna sound weird

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But I felt like I was getting more out of Focus 1 than Focus 3

icy stump
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And the fact I can kill most everything in 5 minutes ish with that unoptimal ass build I think says a lot about this game

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Honestly I can see it

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Well tbf

heady goblet
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Granted

icy stump
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Focus 1 is a whole 10% iirc and 3 is only 20%

heady goblet
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The skill could just be broken

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But still

icy stump
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So its deminishing returns

heady goblet
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No like

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It was better

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Not just per point but it just felt faster

icy stump
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Huh

heady goblet
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Which is insane

icy stump
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Well

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I could see it

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Gonna take that into consideration

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And try it

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How do you hit 90% affinity? Just stack WeX/MM/Foray(?)

heady goblet
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Wex Agi Gore

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Got Burst too

icy stump
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Right I forgot

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Affinity comes from frenzy

heady goblet
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Antivirus increases the amount too

icy stump
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Ngl I think AT Reys set might be really good

icy stump
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Really?!?

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Pog

heady goblet
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Gives it an additional 15%

icy stump
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So that's a free 30%

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Semi consistently

heady goblet
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It's really consistent

icy stump
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Nice

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You use the 2 or the 4 set bonus?

heady goblet
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2

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I'm pairing it with the Zoh set bonus

icy stump
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Ah

heady goblet
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Negates the dot and even out heals it

icy stump
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Honestly though I can kinda see Rey Daus gamma set being really good if it has good slottage

heady goblet
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I'm looking forward to seeing the drip

icy stump
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Cause I feel like that 50% from latent power could be really strong in this game

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Cause it's now the arguable best overall Crit skill on paper

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Cause you get 2 really nice benefits at the cost of a bit of a annoying activation

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Actually

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I just realized latent power reduces stamina depletion by 50% at max

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Idk how it stacks with Constitution

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But if they're additive to each other that's infinite stamina

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Which there fore means max might is always procced

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And even if it isnt

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Cutting stamina consumption by 1/4th is great for the leeway the skill gives you in maintaining it

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Meaning that'd be 80% CC

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From there you either gem in agitator or Foray or Smth and get to go nuts

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Hell if you're willing to take a hit to latent powers duration and run the reydau 2 piece bonus you can get Gores for easy 100% crit

icy stump
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i think dmc music makes me play this game better lmao

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Subhuman and DT got me popping tf off

sharp cedar
icy stump
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Y'know ngl

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Arkveld is the perfect embodiment of this game

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Inconsistent

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The lows kinda suck

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But the highs are crack

heady goblet
icy stump
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He has an attack you have to block backwards if you're too close to him

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We haven't had Smth like that since like Kush

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And a lot of his moves feel weird to interact with

heady goblet
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Which attack is that, the one where he does the flip while dragging the chains on the ground?

icy stump
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Nah the one where he hooks it back

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Then swings it like a scythe

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If you're too close he crosses yo shit

heady goblet
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Can't say I've ever had that happen

icy stump
#

Then there's the wide drag which has weird timing on when the hitbox comes out

icy stump
heady goblet
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In the like, 50~60 hunts I've done I can't say I've had that move hit me from behind

icy stump
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Idk maybe I'm just unlucky

dire bison
#

Monster Hunter gamers have one thing on their mind

heady goblet
#

Abysmal dogshit

dire bison
#

The fashion hunter Reddit is clearly the best monster hunter one

eternal gale
sharp cedar
toxic brook
sharp cedar
sharp cedar
heady goblet
sharp cedar
heady goblet
#

This is true

hushed kelp
#

Except in wilds they show them run off after a certain amount of time

icy stump
#

Man wilds gotta be one of those few games where I simultaneously love it but it also pisses me off lmao

#

I swear sometimes I'll fight something and just absolutely railroad the fucker

#

Like

#

No holds barred I just keep swinging and the dummy I'm fighting keeps eating shit

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Like it feels like a fucking DMC game but I never drop past SSS

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Then there's the next time where I just can't get the flow going and I never get past the Metaphorical D rank

#

It's weird cause I swear the other games aren't like this when first learning them

#

Also unrelated but I swear the artisan GS kinda looks like the DSD and the Nu Krake looks Like the DSS from DMC

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Idk if its my DMC brainrot kicking in

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But like

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They look similar

sharp cedar
#

I will also write it here
︀︀
︀︀This time, I checked the waist size of all the armor pieces with the skin exposed. They were almost all the same, but there was one piece that was unusually thin. That was Chatamail, and it was incredibly thin.
︀︀
︀︀#モンハンワイルズ
︀︀#MHWilds

**💬 7 🔁 275 ❤️ 3.4K 👁️ 132.6K **

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the gooning

icy stump
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I dont see anything

sharp cedar
#

i see it but pointing it out is definitely gonna single me out

icy stump
#

Anyways

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Wilds annoys me sometimes

heady goblet
#

Woah really

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I never would've guessed

icy stump
#

I got like 10 ish offsets vs tempered arkveld

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(idk if the game counts the parries without knockback as a offset or nah)

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I'm guessing nah cause it felt like way more than 10

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Like I was parrying fucken everything

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Feeling fucken great

#

Try to roll in cause it was attacking a teammate

It did its nuke and died cause I tried to block it

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I couldn't roll it again cause if I rolled back or sideways the chain explosion followup would get me, I roll forward I don't think (?) Id've had enough time to dodge the initial kaboom

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And I don't think I had enough time to put my weapons away and superman

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So I got checkmated

sharp cedar
#

maybe you needed guard up

icy stump
#

Nah like I blocked it

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But the just sheer chipp damage murdered me

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I was at like full HP too

#

Also I think the explosions are like the final bosses super double arm slam, where it's in essence a unblockable cause if you block it fowards the follow up explosion crosses you up

#

Speaking of that dickhead

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The toaster roaster into double charged fireball is evil ass work

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The two of them doing about 50% each is devious cause if you overextend you have to worry about not getting comboed

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Cause I don't think the roaster gives you HKD invuln

#

I swear this game has like a loop to it

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I start playing, style on everything, feels peak

#

Get railroaded by some wack ass shit right before I get off

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Get pissed

#

It's scarily consistent at this point

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Like yesterday it was 2 crashes into server maintenance

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I think I should like just quit earlier tbh

heady goblet
#

The cugas

icy stump
#

The babies in the back look so goofy

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They small and fluffy

heady goblet
icy stump
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Cool as fuck monster

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Genuinely the best part of the main story

sharp cedar
heady goblet
#

WARHAMMER 40K X MONSTER HUNTER Can you identify all the monsters that these Space Marines hunted? What is your favourite weapon? And what other crossover would you like to see in the future? I read you in the comments! Happy Monster Hunter Wilds release day! ___________________________ Puedes identificar todos los monstruos cazados por estos Mar...

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icy stump
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Goated

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Lagi rath centaur shaggy zin?

heady goblet
#

Seems so

icy stump
#

Seems like the rust razor bow

dire bison
#

Wait did you guys once have peak? Wtf happened which community ruined it

wide oyster
#

we'll probably get one eventually

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they were in world and rise

#

the bigger injustice is a lot of weapons not even having certain elements

#

for example, there's no blast LS

sharp cedar
#

i don't know if they were actual weapons at some point though

heady goblet
#

Nope

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Just a stylization of certain Long Swords

icy stump
#

No inmate blast GS

heady goblet
hushed kelp
#

Nata: "wow, I wonder how that got there! Well, you're obviously gonna need help taking care of it so let me just have it..."

icy stump
#

Love how no one's mentioning the fulgur

hushed kelp
#

He's just over for some snacks and the trampoline

icy stump
#

Also love how babeh arkveld is a floofball

icy stump
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I need more stupid babeh arkvelds

heady goblet
hushed kelp
#

I haven't even watched the video yet and I know it's helldivers

heady goblet
#

What else would it be

hushed kelp
#

For a moment I thought NCR, just cause my brain went Fallout NV for a second

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Or some joke about trying to register doshaguma to vote

#

Which actually sounds like a very funny premise

sharp cedar
toxic brook
rare knot
heady goblet
hushed kelp
#

SHAH

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AHDIAL

sharp cedar
#

My monster hunter twitter is wild

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||Don’t||

dire bison
#

is it all porn

sharp cedar
#

No but I keep seeing monster hunter ships

dire bison
#

ships like giant boats rights?

heady goblet
#

Yeah sure

#

What else would it refer to fr fr

icy stump
#

I ship dahren moran

#

As in

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Ram it

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With my dragonator ship

icy stump
#

Back on my GU shiiii

#

God valor GS is still the best iteration of it

#

Wilds and surge slash gets close

#

But there's no better feeling than smashing the shit out of a monster while running circles around it with ease

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And out footsing EVERYTHING

#

I was running circles around EX Crimson fatty earlier today

#

Like genuinely I feel like valor compliments old MH really well

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Cause like

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It encourages you to play aggressive
But you have to be used to playing old MH to play it well

#

And that's on pretty much any weapon

sharp cedar
floral flume
#

am I supposed to be getting cooked

heady goblet
#

Yeah

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What style you playing with?

icy stump
floral flume
#

adept gs for now

icy stump
floral flume
#

games were on sell so I said fuck it

icy stump
#

Ah yeah GU is gonna kick your ass to start then

#

You get used to it

floral flume
#

I played a little bit of rise though, just finished the village quests

heady goblet
#

GU is a different beast

icy stump
#

Yeah rise is easier cause it has more QoL

floral flume
#

yeah i'm already missing my car

heady goblet
#

You can still have a Palico

#

You just gotta go adopt one from the Palico Ranch

floral flume
#

Bet

icy stump
#

It's like the difference of driving stick and automatic

Automatic is easier
But when you get used to it manual feels fucken awesome

floral flume
#

rise just gave me the car off the rip i'm spoiled

heady goblet
#

Older games are just like that

#

You want something? Go get it

floral flume
#

i'm gonna invest, feel like I'll have a good time down the road

#

lot to learn

heady goblet
#

GU is peak

icy stump
#

Definitely check out other weapons and styles

heady goblet
#

Most content rich MH game

floral flume
heady goblet
#

Hammer is a lot of fun

#

Valor hammer especially

icy stump
#

72 different ways to body monsters with styles/weapons (not even including arts)

#

High art

floral flume
icy stump
#

It really is

icy stump
#

Valor admittedly has a steeper learning curve

#

But it's super worth it

floral flume
#

i'm digging the mh gameplay loop so far tho

#

kill big monster, make badass weapon

#

repeat

icy stump
#

Yeeeeeeeep

#

Gu still has the most variety I think

#

Nearly 100

#

Boss monsters

floral flume
#

good lord

#

heard it's like the smash ultimate of mh

icy stump
#

Yep

#

Genuinely you can count the amount of large monsters they didn't bring back on like 2 hands

#

(not counting subspecies)

heady goblet
#

Like

#

Sure there's more stuff in Valor movesets

#

But Adept requires more in depth monster knowledge

icy stump
#

Nah id beg to differ

#

Cause like

#

Adept you just kinda got a know when to roll

#

Valor you gotta understand monster patterns better to optimize valor mode upkeep the most efficiently

#

Also going back to GU and I saw a surprising amount of alchemy users online

#

Others have woken up to justice

heady goblet
#

Sure you might only need to know the roll timing to play Adept but then you just end up trading down something with 40 times your health and you aren't even able to access like 40% of your damage in the follow ups

floral flume
heady goblet
#

Factual

icy stump
#

Yeah that's a risism

#

Peak

#

Not as peak as GU tho

#

Valor GS got that SCHMOVEMENT

#

Peak GS STILL

heady goblet
#

I'm sorry Unga but offsets are just too good

floral flume
#

damn bruh this game is just giving me free platinum eggs

#

i just saved myself 150 bucks

heady goblet
#

Ah, the dlcs?

floral flume
#

yeah I didn't even know this was a thing

#

I gotta slow down

icy stump
#

It's cool

heady goblet
# floral flume I gotta slow down

Yeah, I'd recommend not over relying on what they gave you, a lot of people tend to neglect item collection once they see everything they get

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Naaaaaah

floral flume
icy stump
#

Offsets are too inconsistent imo

#

Valor style is incredibly consistent

#

There are times where you land like 5 offsets back to back and it's goated

heady goblet
icy stump
#

But then there are times where the offset just ends up getting you hit cause you didn't get the HKD or you barely missed the hurtbox or Smth like that

heady goblet
#

Unga

#

That's a skill issue

#

You mistimed that shit if you got hit

icy stump
#

The missing thing maybe

#

But the inconsistent results from the parry?

heady goblet
#

GS' covers like 200 degrees

floral flume
#

i will learn

icy stump
heady goblet
#

Also hitting offset gives a TCS if you're doing it at the right times but don't get the topple

icy stump
#

I mean yeah but then you get nailed by a followup

heady goblet
#

Unga, do you really think "the right times," includes when you're gonna get nailed by a follow up?

icy stump
#

I mean yeah but it's way more multi leveled than MH normally is

#

It feels more complicated than nessesary

heady goblet
#

Idk, I feel like that just makes it better

icy stump
#

Frankly I would rather have just a parry that's consistent in what it gets you

heady goblet
#

There are only two outcomes for an offset Unga

#

And sure

#

1 outcome would be better

#

But I feel like the fact that there is two outcomes makes offsets more engaging and interesting all in all

icy stump
#

I mean not really

#

There's the knockback

heady goblet
#

Fuck you mean not really

#

There's topple and no topple

#

And fucking up but we don't count those

icy stump
#

The freebie TCS (cause you have a opening) and a non freebie TCS scenario (no opening)

#

That plus the Big knockback is 3 different scenarios

#

Honestly I think it'd be cool if we could go right back into another upswing on offset tbh

heady goblet
#

You kinda can

icy stump
#

Can you?

#

I mean

heady goblet
#

Just gotta hit a roll or block cancel

icy stump
#

You could roll cancel yeah

heady goblet
#

But I get what you mean

icy stump
#

Or hell

#

Lemme do the dash followup even if I don't get the knockback

#

That'd be awesome

#

Especially if you get to control where you go

#

That'd enable some valor GS Esque snipage via evasive swings

sharp cedar
sharp cedar
icy stump
#

When da festival start

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Thats funny

heady goblet
#

Can't wait for Mt. St. Helens in the MH universe

icy stump
#

Ah fuck yeah

#

I love that map!

desert geyser
#

Mh rise and sunbreak are on sale for a grand total of 15 dollars

icy stump
#

On PC?

#

It is

#

I do a might bit of trolling

floral flume
#

I now know why I was warned about the monkey

#

monkey got hands

sharp cedar
jagged osprey
#

which one do i play if i wanna know all the fun monsters

#

and dont wanna buy the newest one, because

#

le money

icy stump
#

GU is old mhs Greatest hits but it's kind of clunky to start (and it's on switch)

#

World has a good roster (at least including Iceborne) and is a safe bet gameplay wise but the MR expansion (iceborne) has a kind of wack balance to it (monsters aren't really that much harder than base game, it's just they have a shitton more HP and your two main ways of offsetting that is a war or attrition or using the wackass clutch claw mechanic to weaken monster parts to get faster kills, the thing is annoyingly jank tho)

#

Rise has a better base roster and it only gets better in SB, and is notably faster than both of the other games I mentioned, but that speed is kind of a double edged sword for some

#

Oh also rise and GU have moveset customizations on a per weapon basis for more replay value

#

GU has 6 styles per weapon (each style having a hyper specific focus) with each weapon getting 4 unique hunter arts to use (not all at once cause amount of usable arts depends on style)(arts being supers basically) and there being a bunch of universal hunter arts aside from the weapon exclusive ones, and rise gets 3 (5 in SB) switch skill slots, which essentially let you fine tune your moveset

desert geyser
#

Also after playing rise for a bit last night, I got that feeling of "dam, it's 2AM already?" So I'm glad I got that joy from it

#

I really wish I could say the same for wilds, but I just can't

icy stump
#

Wilds/world are fun but it's just not as fun as the portable team games

#

I feel like the mainline team sacrificed some fun factor for mass appeal too much in their last 2 outings but that's just my opinion

desert geyser
#

Agreed

desert geyser
#

Is it just me or did the entire chat above get deleted?

heady goblet
#

It's just you

icy stump
#

Yeah its still there for me

desert geyser
#

Huh, that's odd

icy stump
#

I had my awakening to justice moment today in GU

#

Moonbreaker 1+both absolute evades makes alchemy goated

#

Cause moonbreaker 1 essentially has a S cool down when set as a sp art, but since it's classed as a M cool down art you get the longer SP mode

#

That and the two evades give you plenty of room to work

#

That and the full bloodbath load out with a evade dist +6 000 really makes it goated

#

Cause bloodbath in a ironic twist is actually obscenely good for alchemy

#

Between the arts boost on dev weapon and the set naturally getting composed

#

And the evade/attack skills really help pick up in the damage department (what alchemy mostly lacks)

rancid grove
#

I'm glad you somehow made it work

#

I haven't even made it to g-rank yet

heady goblet
floral flume
icy stump
#

Those are the best kind of GS moments

toxic brook
#

real main character hours

#

it's cool that this series makes you feel like one from time to time, no matter the weapon you use

#

maybe excluding the hunting horn

heady goblet
#

Hunting Horn in Rise is literally the king of aura farming

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Eeeeeeevil floofball

icy stump
#

Y'know the more I think about it the more I like GU styles conceptually

#

Particularly valor and Alchemy, cause they have a really interesting dichotomy

#

Valor lets you rip the monster several new ones with excessive violence when you lock in with the gauge and everything, but it holds your head down in the dirt if you don't and you flounder about

Meanwhile alchemy is content letting you faf about and play passively, but when you lock in you turn essentially all of that singular can of whoop ass you'd have with valor into team support that's incredibly potent if it can be properly maintained and utilized

#

Its a very interesting dichotomy

topaz quartz
#

I never played any Monster Hunter before World.

#

but I really want to try GU

#

and portable 3rd

icy stump
#

HI is kinda hard to learn but once you do it's hella fun

analog osprey
#

Damn arch tempered Rey Dau isn't really allat

heady goblet
#

Fr

analog osprey
#

He carted me once but only cause I didn't know his Big Boom left after explosions

heady goblet
#

Cool looking armor though

#

Wanna farm the set together?

analog osprey
heady goblet
#

Damn

analog osprey
#

I js fought him once this morning

icy stump
#

Why the fuck did AT Rey drop mid festival?

#

I thought it was after

heady goblet
#

It dropped yesterday I think

icy stump
#

I was so ready to go gettem at the start of the event and was thoroughly disappointed

#

Now I'm just kinda in a perpetual state of "eh" when it comes to wilds

#

I'll prolly go smack him around to get the armor set (cause event quests suck and are time limited for some reason) and then I'll go back to GU

#

Been on a GU kick

#

Man that shits so peak

#

We need to go back

#

Reject modernity

#

Return to monké

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Helped someone get G astalos armor yesterday cause they were running LR armor they upgraded the crap out of in G rank

#

History repeats but I am on the other side of the circle

desert geyser
#

Meanwhile the 2nd rise playthrough has been a blast and helped resparked my love for mh

floral flume
#

rise being my first mh game got me feeling blessed ngl

#

hard to believe it gets any better than this

desert geyser
#

Might not have all the same freedom of movement as rise does, but that's part of the charm with the old mh games

icy stump
#

Man I knew wilds was inherently DMC coded

#

Wilds straight up fucken just took DMCs parry system

#

And I ain't talking no royal guard, I'm talking dat weapon on weapon hitboxes colliding shit

#

Thusly I've come to the conclusion wilds has potential to become the most fucking goated monster Hunter in the G rank update assuming they:
-give every weapon a offset
-give the weapons that have them already more
-give more varied options off a successful parry
-and make the monsters more aggressive but also let them be readable

#

Like MFers should get explicit offset reaction counter attacks I can then learn to counter attack in varied ways

#

I came to this conclusion watching this video

https://youtu.be/MnRaOAKX3Ec?feature=shared

Join me as I talk at you for far too long about a seminal boss in the history of action games. You should play DMC1.

I know it's called Helm Breaker but I've always called it Helm Splitter. "Breaker" makes me think of blunt force whereas "Splitter" makes me think of cutting....like what a sword would do. I also think it sounds cooler.

Nelo Alt...

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Like GS should have a reverse beat offset sorta system

#

Any charge attack can offset, but the amount of charge you need to offset varies on the weapon charge

#

Like for example a normie swing needs lvl3

#

Strong needs 2
TCS only needs one

#

With the rising effectively having it at lvl 0

#

Genuinely Wilds MR has potential to be the best MH game if they lock in

desert geyser
sharp cedar
night ledge
#

La cuga

icy stump
#

Nargacuga basically just being a cat with knives strapped to its arm and a spear club on its tail is really funny conceptually

topaz quartz
#

nargacuba

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Man it's a crime tempest axe with valor style steps isnt the default axe mode in any recent game

#

That stuff is the apex of swag axe

night ledge
#

i kinda dont like AT RD

icy stump
#

Right he exists

dire bison
#

who were you not happy with like 2 hours ago?

night ledge
#

AT RD

icy stump
#

I should go fight him before the event quest goes away

#

That system still baffles me

desert geyser
#

Wait, the event quest will go away?

icy stump
#

Weekly cycling events

#

Unless it's a special festival

heady goblet
#

Like World

desert geyser
#

Yucky

heady goblet
#

Which is DOGSHIT

icy stump
rare knot
#

Is anyone playing wilds on series s? If so, how's it run?

#

I played the beta but haven't touched the full game yet, and I'm getting that MH itch again

hushed kelp
#

I ran the beta on series s, I wouldn't recommend

rare knot
#

Yeah same. It ran okay but was really rough looking

#

I think that bothered me more than the frame rate. All the browns and greys really mesh together and make the game unreadable

#

I'm just hoping the full release is a liiiittle better, cuz I have no other next gen options

wheat nova
#

Barrel bowling is fun

#

The blossomdance meal at the grand hub looks so delicious

golden aurora
#

Wich you can play for the low price of NOTHING!

icy stump
#

Yeah. It that's like 90% sword mode

#

I'm saying for like axe mode

heady goblet
heady goblet
icy stump
#

Bruh I'm too far gone

#

I hit a glavenus with a taunt mid fight

#

Like, doing moves n shit, hit the flaunt emote before the big beyblade spin, then adepted the spin

#

I'm actually evil

hushed kelp
#

Aura farming again, Mr Unga?

icy stump
#

I'm always aura farming

eternal gale
#

I'm going to beat rise at work it seems

icy stump
heady goblet
rare knot
rare knot
#

Booted up GU for the first time in a while and I'm trying to take on G4 Shaggy

#

Turns out GS doesn't like Shaggy much

wheat nova
wheat nova
acoustic walrusBOT
icy stump
#

Me but GU

#

Frankly I don't think I'm gonna even

rare knot
#

I played GU again too, and man new MH just doesn't hit the same

toxic brook
#

@autumn jewel
lightning dragon

icy stump
#

Raw dogged G4/5 silver wind with no evade skills alchemy GS

#

That FUCKING CAT THAT I HATE

hushed kelp
#

No dodge, just boofed the murder drugs

#

Also I got back into rise with SnS to spice it up, and boy do I suck at trying to perfect rush lol

floral flume
#

adept and valor gs are carrying me so far

desert geyser
toxic brook
floral flume
#

holy shit that's cold

rare knot
floral flume
#

no doubt about it

#

built in temu royal guard

analog osprey
#

AT Rey Dau is literally just a more annoying Rey Dau

#

Which is sad to say

#

Cause he's the first of the bunch

icy stump
heady goblet
toxic brook
hushed kelp
#

So spikeless they even removed the giant's teeth

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Big angy doge lmao

rare knot
#

Wait is narga sposed to be a dog? I always thought he was a bat

icy stump
#

I always read it as a big cat

hushed kelp
#

Beaked Jaguar to me

rare knot
#

It's a bat cat

#

Also fuck silverlos. That is all

hushed kelp
rare knot
#

If I could kill them!

wheat nova
rare knot
#

Mhgu

wheat nova
#

ahh, i see

rare knot
#

Im Trying to learn cb again and this thing does not work against stupid dumb fucker silverlos

#

I hope him and his family explodes

desert geyser
hushed kelp
analog osprey
#

I can't see the Artian anymore
CAPCOM please drop the layered weapons already

rare knot
rare knot
desert geyser
# rare knot Gu

Yeah silverlos is rough in gu. I usually just try to run around him rather than head on since he loves to back up all the time and stun you with wind pressure and roars

rare knot
#

The fireballs are my main issue. He constantly flies around and nukes me. I can dodge perfectly fine but that also means never getting a hit in

#

And sometimes flash bombs knock him down, but sometimes he stays in the air. It seems random

icy stump
#

15 flashbangs and pray

desert geyser
#

Have you tried adept or valor style

desert geyser
rare knot
#

I play valor GS, but I mostly tried to take him down with Strike CB to get some practice in

desert geyser
#

I think you can get more with provisions

icy stump
#

You wanna aim the flashes where he's looking currently cause he usually flys 90° left or right but then turns to face the same direction

rare knot
#

Yeah ik

icy stump
#

It also covers him diving back

#

Adept GS is good cause of the upswing

rare knot
#

Like sometimes I'll throw it while he's in air, and it'll rattle him a bit, but he'll stay in the air and just be blinded for a while

desert geyser
rare knot
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It's weird, it doesn't seem like it's determined by wing damage or resistance to flash bombs. It's just a coin toss.

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Idk I'll try again later. He's just a fucker tho

icy stump
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I want his armor so bad

icy stump
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Yah

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Good sharpness skills

icy stump
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Sharpness?

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Nah not in this game I don't think

rare knot
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Yah in this game I think

icy stump
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Crit and Crit accessories

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Iirc it's like challenger/WeX/CB?

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Which don't get me wrong

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Absolutely fucks

rare knot
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Hold on I'm tryna look it up

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Maybe I mixed it up in my head

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Oh yeah it's just tendie and crit up, whoops

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I do want that too tho

icy stump
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G rank also gets Challenger

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Oh ok

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Since you're using charge blade, you could also try blocking some attacks as it tries to approach. I can't remember how much that helps since it has been a while though

icy stump
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Honestly a rock solid set

rare knot
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You really want some guard + though

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If it's a melee attack it does damage him, but blocking fire balls does nothing except it blocks the fire balls SOLKEKW

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Yeah definitely not the fireballs

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I'm running full ceanataur rn and it's fine for CB but I need more