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heady goblet
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That would be cool

wide oyster
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(along with stun)

icy stump
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I can't tell if I like hypers more or less than anomalies tbh

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Like on one hand, hypers can be real pains in the ass, but at the same time you don't have to do nearly as much grinding to get what you want out of them

heady goblet
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Not to mention they've got a much lower grind in general

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You do a questline in LR/HR and bam

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You got them

icy stump
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Tbh idk why people don't appreciate GUs endgame more, that shit is so open ended it kicks ass tbh

You got big bad superbosses, deviants, hypers, bullshit insane events, it rocks

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Also
I'm pissed we never got a event quest with all 5 risens back to back

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Instead we got a souped up mal/magna and a souped up version of both their rare(?) Species

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I don't want that shit, I want a gauntlet of shit, that's way cooler

icy stump
heady goblet
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No it is

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You just get to do Hypers after that point

icy stump
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Which BTW, R armor is fucking goated

heady goblet
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Fr

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Imagine we had R series in Rise

icy stump
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Ye fr fr

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Rise only doing 1 set per monster is still kinda wierd tbh

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Like I get that it's to presumably to streamline things, but like whyyy?

heady goblet
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Streamlining things

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Also

icy stump
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I'd love to have a alt set that's that's same statwise, but different aesthetically

heady goblet
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The armor sets in Rise are just

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Way better

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Than a lot of the series

icy stump
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True

heady goblet
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Especially with Qurious crafting

icy stump
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Man, remeber when getting 4 maxed out skills was good?

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Now that's just lr armor

heady goblet
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Fr

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Getting 6 skills required a god charm

icy stump
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Literally a deviant set from GU maxed out is nowhere near as good as a set in the modern Era

heady goblet
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Mixed sets were always mad good at least

icy stump
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Like my dreadking set got atk L, Wex, Earplugs, wind resist, adrenaline 1, and crit boost on a good day, at the end of G rank

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My end of G rank set now got waaaaay more shit on it

heady goblet
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My best set got Challenger 2, Crit Eye 2, Wex, Crit Boost, Razor Sharp

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And also

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Jho Cena

icy stump
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Tbh I feel like we should go back moreso to the old system

Make every skill have 5+levels and make it so you only really get the good effects towards the end few upgrades

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Tbh WeX is way too fucken good to just be a lvl 3 skill

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Maybe make QoL skills 3 levels to make gemming them in easier

heady goblet
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The Crit Boost in my back pocket

heady goblet
icy stump
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Well crit boost at least needs other skills to be really good tho

heady goblet
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I think QoL skills should be like shock absorber

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Where it's one point for the whole effect

icy stump
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Wrong reply lol

heady goblet
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Even then

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Earplugs is just such a niche skill

icy stump
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Like just go back to the old metric of +1/+2 for QoL skills, but they're way easier to get

heady goblet
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Especially in a system like Rise's

icy stump
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Tbh earplugs are slept on

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Like yeah in rise you can just counter everything

heady goblet
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In a system where every weapon has at least one counter?

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No, it's not

icy stump
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But it's nice to just beat the shit out of the monster as it's yelling

heady goblet
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Not to mention, roar rolling exists

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Wich granted

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is a lot harder in Rise without evade window

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love me frame perfect rolls

icy stump
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When you look at it on paper it's not great, but in execution it's nice

Like think about this
You're Playing GS, you just strongarmed a monsters attack
You go for TCS
Oh no, the monster enraged and roared, stuffing your TCS

Stuff like that is entirely mitigated by earplugs

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Which tbf, is less useful in rise cause you have counters an stuff, but there's gonna be times you can't counter

wide oyster
icy stump
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So you've seen it

The unmatched swagger of sacred sheathe

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Exquisite

wide oyster
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it's just too fun

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I don't think that I can go back to iai sheath

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after this

icy stump
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This is the fun way

knotty ledge
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20 years. 229 monsters. Which monster reigns supreme? Hunters, it's your time to vote for your all-time top monster in this special 20th anniversary poll!

Voting runs from November 20, 2023 to December 20, 2023. Vote now!

👉 http://Monsterhunter.com/20th/en/vote-monster/

#MH20Choice #MonsterHunter

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@wide oyster @icy stump @heady goblet

wide oyster
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vote Volvidon, Aurora Somnacanth, or Basarios

wide oyster
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they're the best monsters in the game

knotty ledge
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I voted for the actual best InoPlan

wide oyster
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and definitely not the most annoying ones

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Mizutsune is great

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it gets a really neat variant in Sunbreak as well

knotty ledge
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Daily reminder I should play Sunbreak

wide oyster
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it's a good time

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I've been going through it again

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on another hunter

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with switch axe

knotty ledge
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I might be a weirdo

wide oyster
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Auroracanth is infuriating

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Somnacanth is okay

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but it has some annoying attacks

knotty ledge
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What changed

wide oyster
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nothing too bad though

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they made Somnacanth do actual damage

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and all of its attacks are massive and hit multiple times

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so counter weapons suffer

knotty ledge
wide oyster
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unless they play around it

knotty ledge
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Oh rip

wide oyster
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it's not exactly a super hard boss or anything

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just annoying

knotty ledge
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I don’t play around anything I just hit harder

wide oyster
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maybe you'll like it though

wide oyster
knotty ledge
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Lance

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That’s it mostly

wide oyster
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I see

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that's a good selection

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of weapons

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do you play spread bow?

heady goblet
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Indeed

knotty ledge
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Charge blade is peak

wide oyster
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agreed

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it looks so fun

heady goblet
wide oyster
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SAED is awesome

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I'm planning to try it next

knotty ledge
wide oyster
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once I get decent at swaxe

knotty ledge
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Swaxe is the one weapon I always want to try

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And end up never touching

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It’s a curse or something

heady goblet
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Swaxe is the one weapon I don't really nice with

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Unless it's GU

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Then it's my favorite

wide oyster
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swaxe is amazing

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it's so bad when you're starting out

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but

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once you get the hang of morphing and using the sidestep

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it becomes peak

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I can't wait until I get the counter switch skill

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swaxe is the unga bunga weapon of mh

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no defense

heady goblet
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Hammer:

wide oyster
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only offense

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hammer has water strike

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at least

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swaxe's counter is purely predictive

heady goblet
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Not a base moveset move

wide oyster
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it can't be used on reaction

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true

heady goblet
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And slow af

wide oyster
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charge blade

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I hear that charge blade uses its morphs very differently

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though

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with swaxe, you constantly want to be going back and forth between sword and axe

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apparently, cb doesn't do the same

heady goblet
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Really depends on the style of CB you like playing

icy stump
wide oyster
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Basarios is on that list

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but you're right

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I should've put him twice

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that's how annoying he is

icy stump
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I meant plesioth lol

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But true

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I have been running around trying to entertain a 6 yr old for the past 10 hours I am beat

heady goblet
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I had to DripEddie

icy stump
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Based pick tbh

heady goblet
icy stump
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I didn't

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I can't choose

heady goblet
icy stump
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Like genuinely

heady goblet
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Just choose the one you find the most fun to fight

icy stump
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But like I cant

heady goblet
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How

icy stump
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It's like picking my favorite kid

heady goblet
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Every parent has a favorite kid

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Just because they deny it don't mean it can't be seen

icy stump
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But like

You shouldn't

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Idk I like alot of monsters for a lot of different reasons

heady goblet
heady goblet
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How y'all feeling at the prospect of a new MH game?

icy stump
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If we get it in over the moon

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IF nah
Ah well

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I just hope we get some more GU/Rise isms in it

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I have school when that starts so rip

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But I'm prolly gonna pull the stream up on my phone for the sevagoth drop

heady goblet
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Same, I hope we get a new weapon if/when we get a new MH title

rose bison
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the warframe?

icy stump
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Yes

rose bison
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are they releasing sevagoth prime or smth

icy stump
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Just sevagoth, but you get him for free

topaz quartz
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Por la mierda tiren algo del nuevo monster hunter o me muero

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VAMO!!!!!!

rose bison
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we are literally winning

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so hard

heady goblet
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Fr fr

rose bison
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i was totally expecting elden ring news but no monster hunter news

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but i got the opposite

heady goblet
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Gonna lose another 1000 hours off my life

rose bison
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still sad cause no elden ring

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but MAN

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it looks like open world monste rhunter

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which is like an amazing idea

heady goblet
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Fr

rose bison
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i feel like its one of the few games that isnt open world but lends really well to it

heady goblet
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Seamless open world would go so hard

icy stump
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True

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I hope that let's us sequence break a bit

rose bison
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that would be cool

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i cant wait

icy stump
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Lemme get right to stabbing rathalos in his big dumb face

rose bison
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like even if nothing else

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NEW MONSTER

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s

heady goblet
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Can't wait to run off to a late game area and completely break the progression

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Three times

rose bison
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i absolutely love seeing new monsters

icy stump
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I just hope and pray we get moveset customization

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Please

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Styles, switch skills, something

heady goblet
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I'd like to see some new endgame additions

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And at least one new weapon

icy stump
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It a even number gen

It's coming

heady goblet
icy stump
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Please let there be styles

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I need my movest customization

heady goblet
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God I hope so

icy stump
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I wonder if they're gonna do a weapon revamp like they did for world

heady goblet
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I doubt it

icy stump
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Yknow, shakeup the weapons a bit

heady goblet
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Seems a bit soon for another rework

icy stump
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I mean maybe not a flat out rework rework

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Buuuut more things like switchskills would be cool

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And they already have a shitton to work with

rose bison
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man i want wirebugs still tho

topaz quartz
heady goblet
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We making it outta LR with this one

icy stump
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Please I want to be able to boot up the game, and gun immediately over to a rathalos to hunt it

heady goblet
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I like being right in my predictions

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It feels good

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It's so cool

icy stump
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Ok so

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I'm predicting those are gonna be two giant ass snake wyvern skeleton elder dragons we fight in the game

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Prolly as like the final bosses

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Prolly not dalamafur big

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But big

heady goblet
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I'm hoping so

icy stump
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The one that's like the Greyish color looks almost robotic interms of the design on it

heady goblet
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What are you fucking talking about Unga there's no grey in the image

icy stump
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So I'm wondering if that possibly means this is like a metallic version, or possibly a indicator we might see something akin to the EDW

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The one that's not black then

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It's orange at the bottom/like a wierd green at the top

heady goblet
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Yeah

icy stump
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That and the rings look connected to that one specifically

heady goblet
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At least two are connected to the other

icy stump
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And if you look where the black dragon intersects it, the bottom portion of the logo looks like a six lol

heady goblet
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I think that's intentional

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There's 6 dragon heads on it too

icy stump
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Yeah

heady goblet
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That's actually really interesting

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It's like

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The serpent's are being lifted by the smaller ones

icy stump
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Yeah the rings are actually like, little dragons doing loops

heady goblet
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I thought it was like a ballooning thing

icy stump
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Nah I think it's more them doing loops cause like if it was them ballooning the inside of the rings would be filled

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We might be getting some oroboros ass symbolism here

heady goblet
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What do you think the stuff going on inside the rings is?

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Looks like some weird dualism thing

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Between the future and the past

icy stump
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Honestly

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If we get a pseudo retool of the equal dragon weapon that'd be a neat idea

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Like maybe have us fight both a ancient civilization enhanced monster and a non civ enhanced monster

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Either we fight the unenhanced version 1st, then fight the mech versio after, or more interestingly maybe we have a narkarkos situation, round 1 is a mechanical monster that is strong, but almost limited by its metal form, but after we beat it we don't actually Kill it, we just bash his armor off

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Meaning after we fight a harder base version of the monster

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Like primalzeno

heady goblet
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Could be interesting

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Hopefully it means a new more advanced weapon

icy stump
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Tonfas?

heady goblet
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I was thinking Magnet Spike

icy stump
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Tbh tonfas seem like the easiest to slot in

heady goblet
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Hardest to rework

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But could be so cool

icy stump
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Tho at the same time
Acceleration axe could also work well

heady goblet
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Honestly

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Just the slash version would be enough

icy stump
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Having a straigh up axe would be nice

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Prowler mode would be a funny thing to bring back

heady goblet
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Imo

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All you need to rework Magnet Spike

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Is tone down the MVs

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And remove the I frames

icy stump
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What about the whole "locking down the monster for several seconds thing?"

heady goblet
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That was blunt only iirc

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And they could make it like a slowness debuff or smtn

icy stump
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Honestly I'd keep the I frames somewhat, make the MV reasonable, and just make it primarily do exhaust

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And when the monster is exhausted you get to do the knockdown magnet thing

heady goblet
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I think the I-frames for a weapon that moves as much as it does is absurd

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Just make it godly for microspacing

icy stump
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I mean yeah, but toning it down to be reasonable isn't unreasonable

heady goblet
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Imo that's way more interesting

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Especially if the weapon is a true disjoint

icy stump
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Honestly smth I'd love to see maybe?

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Dual weapons

heady goblet
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What

icy stump
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Like you carry a set of DBs and a GS together

heady goblet
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Yeah, that'd be cool

icy stump
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And you can change between both

heady goblet
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If you did that

icy stump
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But like you have to sheathe to switch

heady goblet
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You could even split the magnet Spike into two separate weapons

icy stump
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It's prolly be a nightmare to balance gunner/melee weapons tho

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Cause how'd that work?

heady goblet
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Imagine a Bow GS combo

icy stump
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That's what I was thinking lol

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Get sns/bow and play some fucken LoZ

heady goblet
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GS with that much mobility and additional damage output

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Absurd

icy stump
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Gs would prolly become everyone's 2nd pick

heady goblet
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Definitely

icy stump
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Cause GS is a straigh damage upgrade alot of the time when a monster is knocked flat on its ass

heady goblet
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Wake up hits too

icy stump
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And alot of the pain of aiming is removed when the target can't move

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They'd prolly have to balance it tho

heady goblet
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Actually

icy stump
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Like I could see them doing a thing where if you bring one weapon you get special combos or smth

heady goblet
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It's really hard to build for two weapons simultaneously

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Especially when those weapons have different needs

icy stump
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Like if you run GS solo you get a dash strike or smth

heady goblet
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Think about bow

icy stump
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Bow and hammer prolly could work together well

heady goblet
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It needs Mighty Bow, Shot type empowerment, stamina skills, along with elemental damage buffs, and evasion skills

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GS needs raw damage, focus, and in Rise specifically needs offensive guard as well

icy stump
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If they bring back dual skills that dprolly alleviate things

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That or lean more in on skills being more unique in terms of effects, like frostcraft n shit like dat

heady goblet
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They'd have to load up a lot of dual skills to make it truly viable

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Could be a neat G Rank addition, I guess

icy stump
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I mean I think that's the interesting conundrum

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Do you lean in on one weapon, or do you spend yourself out for more versatility

heady goblet
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Because if it's added in from the get go Monsters would not only have to be appropriately adjusted for the absolutely sky high skill economy the game would have

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And it could also just lead to the game being naturally decisive

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And really hard for newer players to get into

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But at the same time

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It would be a really cool addition

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This is

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Quite the conundrum

knotty ledge
topaz quartz
heady goblet
icy stump
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Me omw to dunk on velkhana

topaz quartz
icy stump
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Better palico incoming?

icy stump
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Poor doggies

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I will miss them

topaz quartz
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Mine is a living image of my dog.

icy stump
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Mine is a facsimile of my ideal dog if I had a dog

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God I want a dog

heady goblet
icy stump
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I FUCKING KNEW IT

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So that means there's at least a 5 yr or so gap between 4U/rise

heady goblet
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Yeah

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Not like there's a very large gap between the MHs

icy stump
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GU presumably takes place very shortly after 4U cause non of the returning characters aged up at all

heady goblet
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Rise probably takes place only a year after World

icy stump
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Ok so I tried to look up some lore stuff to see if I could give my theory on that one random rookie in velocidrome armor in elgado (I don't wanna look up his name lol) being the pubmaster from GUs kid thanks to the knowledge of the pretty sizeable timeskip between 4U/GU and risebreak, and TiL the pub master from GU is wyverian

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Ngl, I never noticed

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I now feel silly

heady goblet
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She had giant ears mf how did you not notice

icy stump
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I always looked at her big poofy hair

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I somehow never noticed the ears

heady goblet
icy stump
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Bruh I feel dumb

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Over 2000 hours in GU

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Never noticed

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I'm a fucking fool

heady goblet
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Bruh I noticed literally the first time I saw her

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Blud is blind

icy stump
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I was blinded by my overwhelming desire to kill all the things

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But this now begs a new question

rose bison
rose bison
heady goblet
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Yeah

topaz quartz
heady goblet
rose bison
topaz quartz
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the ears made it difficult for me to recreate

rose bison
rose bison
heady goblet
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She also got rid of the giant hammer she had

rose bison
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idk im thinking its not the same person just like a reference

heady goblet
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The book literally says it's the same person bro

rose bison
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oh

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i cant speak japanese

heady goblet
topaz quartz
wide oyster
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out of curiosity, for people who have played both World and Rise, which one do you prefer? (and why)

heady goblet
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Rise

wide oyster
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out of curiosity, why?

heady goblet
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I prefer the faster paced gameplay, if we're including Iceborne there's no clutch claw, Wex wasn't nerfed, Element is actually meaningful, it wasn't powerscaled to hell, Switch skills are an amazing idea, and the new skills they added to play off it were great

wide oyster
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I see

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I agree with almost all of that

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I hope that they bring switch skills back in Wilds

heady goblet
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I doubt they will, but if they do I'll be very happy

wide oyster
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at the very least, I hope that they make some moveset adjustments that reflect the influence of switch skills

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for example, I hope that they change the switch axe's draw attack to the switch skill version rather than the default

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considering the former is genuinely a straight upgrade

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that makes the weapon feel better as a whole

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that's just one example, though

rose bison
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its just more focused on gameplay than immersion i think

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though i do enjoy the world of world more

wide oyster
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I see

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in that case, do you agree with Axalu's points?

rose bison
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i dont have iceborne so cant talk about any of that, but hte other stuff yes

icy stump
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Out of Gen 5, rise

wide oyster
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why?

icy stump
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Alot of Worlds design decisions feel kind of half assed imo

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Like clutchclaw/dps checks, etc

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Instead of making fights harder in IB by playing around the hunters strengths gained in Gen5, they effectively nerf the hunters dps by making hitzones worse/upping hp by a shiton

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(Comparitively ib HR->MR scaling is about a three times hp multiplier, while normally it's around 2 times)

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And in order to get good dps you need to wrangle with the clutch claw, which is a inherently janky ass mechanic

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Meaning fights that are relatively unchanged from their older versions (like rathalos, glavenus, zinogre, and most returning monsters tbh) feel strictly worse than their gen 4 versions of the fight, because in Gen 5 they drag on

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Or you try and use the clutch claw and get annoyed by that

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Whereas in risbreak, they manage their MR really well, because instead of explicitly nerfing the player to make the new threats harder/take longer to make them feel harder. They went out of their way to build the monsters around our expanded movesets

rose bison
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i love risebreak

icy stump
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Monsters like diablos/anjanath get attacks with abnormally long windup to bait counters

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Other monsters get moves that have much faster startup than usual to keep you on your toes

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And monsters have way better tracking to keep up with the player

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The monsters in sb are built around what we can do in such a way where it's fun yet challenging, in a similar way that GU is

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That and monsters (generally) have really fair kill times, meaning fighting a monster isn't a 20+ minute ordeal

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The two main gripes I have with risebreak are that
-the roll nerf sucks
-the anomaly grind takes longer than it realistically needs

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And like, one of those gripes is mitigated by decorations, and the other is a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things

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TLDR, risebreak is designed in a way that's fundamentally fun, whereas alot of things in world are designed moreso to make the game more "difficult" as opposed to fun

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But that's my opinion of it all

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God I hope wilds MR update goes the SB route and not the IB ond

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Bruh I think I put more thought in this than in most of my school essays wtf SOLKEKW

rose bison
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because its more interesting than anything you'd be learning

icy stump
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Factual!

rose bison
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im currently ranting about the ecology in someones dms

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its just so fun

icy stump
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MH ecology?

rose bison
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yeah

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i gotta rant about monster hunter at least once whenever i meet a new person

icy stump
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Hell yeah

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Did you tell them about the valstrax?

rose bison
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i dont know much about valstrax tbh

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been talking about nergigante and zorah magdoros and their symbiosis of sorts

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i think it counts as symbiosis

icy stump
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Valstrax is neat with his whole chest basically working like a turbine engine on a plane

heady goblet
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I think Wilds will take place Old World

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Either that

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Or it's some secret more sinister third option

wide oyster
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it could be in the undiscovered portion of the new world

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as some have theorized

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as well

heady goblet
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That seems very unlikely to me given how the map for the New World was laid out

icy stump
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Honestly I could see it taking place near somewhere else that we've been to in the older games, if I had to guess, given the environment we see in the trailer I'm guessing it's near valharbor

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Possibly out somewhere in the sand sea

heady goblet
icy stump
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What are zoids?

heady goblet
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Mech animals

icy stump
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Huh

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Imagine if its the Edw SOLKEKW

heady goblet
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Unga

icy stump
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I know

heady goblet
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The Equal Dragon Weapon as it was originally conceptualized will never be real

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And on top of that

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It's lame as fuck

icy stump
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Maybe. But it'd be a fun throwback reference for the 20th anniversary

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Also I vaguely remeber capcom licensing a EDW model design or smth like last year or smth

topaz quartz
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bro

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My PS4 gaming controller broke today, and playing Monster Hunter with a keyboard makes me uncomfortable

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I passed the year but it seems that life wants to screw me one more time before the end of the year

heady goblet
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M&K MH is awful fr

topaz quartz
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SI!!!

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Today was a bad day for the punching bag that I am.

heady goblet
topaz quartz
#

the type that likes the heat

topaz quartz
#

arregle el control

heady goblet
#

Huh

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Nice

heady goblet
#

I'm getting my hands on Frontier tonight

icy stump
#

Hell yeah

heady goblet
icy stump
#

What da heeeeell??

#

It died in like, 20 second

topaz quartz
#

chancho muerte

#

To play the old titles there were community servers for online, right?

heady goblet
#

Yeah, we're playing on a community server

topaz quartz
topaz quartz
#

honestly I would like to play the old ones (less freedom unite)

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Lao is in frontier?

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Huh

heady goblet
#

Yeah

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Boring af but he's needed for an important item

icy stump
#

Fucking classic Lao lmao

icy stump
#

What da heeell

heady goblet
#

You've never seen that image before?

icy stump
#

No

heady goblet
#

It's the time where Alatreon released for World

wide oyster
#

isn't Iceborne still at Mixed?

heady goblet
#

Yeah

icy stump
#

Fucking lmao

#

Honestly fight wise, worldborne alatreon is pretty fun

It's just a damn shame eschaton judgement kinda shits on it

heady goblet
#

It was people who had like just beaten Shara and we're malding that the endgame content was difficult

#

I don't think they even could get to Escaton in some cases

icy stump
#

Yeah the fact alatreon and fatty are MR23 locked in ib, but ruiner nergi is Mr100 locked is the dumbest thing everything

heady goblet
#

Yeah

icy stump
#

Thank God SB isn't nearly as stingy with Mr requirements as IB was

heady goblet
#

I mean

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In some cases it was way more stingy

icy stump
#

The only thing that's close to that is the anomaly levels

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In SB as long as you've hit MR you can literally fight any postgame MR monster

heady goblet
#

Risens are all locked to MR 100+

icy stump
#

And even then, you can if they show up in a harvest tour

icy stump
heady goblet
#

I don't think that makes it better

icy stump
#

It makes playing MR multiplayer less restrictive

#

Whereas in IB they are hyper restrictive with that sort of stuff

heady goblet
#

No they aren't

icy stump
#

Yeah, you literally have to be MR 100 to even go on a ruiner hunt

heady goblet
#

IB you just go from Urgent to Urgent as soon as you beat Shara and get your skull pounded into the dirt by content you're not meant to be fighting

icy stump
#

IB is absolutely goofy in its mr requirements

#

All DLC fights are MR 23 locked, when really like, half should be at least MR 50

#

But then for something like base MR the game is super stingy with letting you fight stuff ahead

#

Like base glavenus and acidic glavenus are realistically about as hard as each other right?

Yeah acidic is move fluid in movement, but it's not out of the question to be able to throw hands with it early if you've got the glavenus fight down.

The acidic Glavenus quest is MR 14 locked and MR glavenus is mr 7 locked

heady goblet
#

Well yeah, Acidic and Glav are both story fights

icy stump
#

Then theres shit like yian Garuga/zinogre being MR23 locked cause they're "post-game content" despite having armor/gear that is literally the same rarity as shit like rathalos

icy stump
#

Which is why I hope come wilds the dev team keeps the story kinda like how it is in SB and try not to shoehorn it in your face as much

heady goblet
#

They've had a lot of time to improve on the design of mainline, so hopefully

icy stump
#

Honestly MH plots are at their best when they pose a interesting idea that you can mostly ignore if you don't really give a shit about it

#

Worldbornes plot is not only boring, but they also jam it in your face, literally disallowing multiplayer until you engage with it (not being able to start a quest with your full group is so stupid)

heady goblet
#

Yeah

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You also gotta watch the cringe ass cutscenes

rose bison
#

boris is another favorite of mine

icy stump
heady goblet
#

Rathalos?

icy stump
#

Yep

#

Im boring bitch

heady goblet
#

I don't really have a favorite, just a cluster of Monsters I really enjoy

icy stump
#

There's a few monsters like that

rose bison
heady goblet
#

But he's not awesome

rose bison
#

unless you can tell what monster that is just by the name

heady goblet
#

No

rose bison
#

sad

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spiky buff man who beats up his peers

#

also kinda the devil

heady goblet
#

I'm gonna be honest, only one that comes to mind is Rajang or Nergi

rose bison
#

its nergigante

#

how is rajang spiky or the devil

heady goblet
#

Cool

#

I don't remember anything in the lore about Nergis beating each other up

rose bison
#

they dont beat eachother up they beat up other elder dragosn

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iirc they just hunt them for sport

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not even food

heady goblet
#

Peers had me trippin

heady goblet
#

So that way they can reproduce

rose bison
#

ah

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rajang just beat up horses as a rite of passage

#

which is fair

#

horses are scary

heady goblet
#

They also do it for food

#

Since that's what they've evolved to eat

rose bison
#

they eat the horns

#

and thats how they get the lightning powers

heady goblet
#

Yeah

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I think that might be why Oroshi kirin came into being

rose bison
#

that reminds me i still need to finish the monster hunter rise ecology video

heady goblet
#

So that way they could circumvent their only natural predator aside from Nergi

rose bison
#

maybe

#

it would make sense

#

goes with the rest of the ecology

heady goblet
#

Indeed

rose bison
#

one of my favorite things is how astalos leave their children at birth to protect them from themselves

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cause astalos have bad eyesight and are very aggressive

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and accidentally kill their children

heady goblet
#

That is a cool detail

rose bison
#

its weirdly wholesome

heady goblet
#

I think Frontier actually has the progenitor of Astalos

rose bison
#

hmm what other details do i like

heady goblet
#

Berukyurosu

rose bison
#

oh i think its funny that frostfang barioth isnt a variant for a special reason, its simply a barioth that got old

#

and black diablos is just a female diablos

heady goblet
#

Yeah

rose bison
#

i watched a video with a tierlist of every single monster in the entire franchise, including frontier, so i guess i at least know about them, just dont remember them

heady goblet
#

He's basically Astalos but he uses Dragon lightning, and he has a lot more tails

rose bison
#

yeah that is a lot of tails

#

and dragon lightning is awesome i wish there was a variant of astalos that used it

#

i want to see a dragon lightning light saber

#

ill have to make do with boltreaver

heady goblet
#

SB Astalos has the lightsaber too

#

Don't forget that

rose bison
#

yeah but not dragon lightning

#

boltreaver doesnt have it either but its a closer color

#

wait

#

for some reason i made myself think it was purple for a second

#

no its red

#

neither of them are closer they're like the same distance away

heady goblet
#

Yeah

#

You wanna give Frontier a shot, Sloth?

rose bison
#

not really

heady goblet
#

It's so good Sloth

heady goblet
hasty hearth
#

But like every other frontier monster, grew to like him once I got used to the fight

#

But I’ll never forget

heady goblet
hasty hearth
#

I think it was the key quest for G rank

#

So bloody difficult, evasion +2 legit carried me that fight

heady goblet
#

Yeah, it's a G Rank key

topaz quartz
#

Does anyone have any long sword builds cooked up there?v

heady goblet
#

For which game?

topaz quartz
#

rise

#

I'm falling very short with my build, which in theory is to farm the first anomalies.

heady goblet
#

I can give you the set search so you can put together a set that would work for what you have

topaz quartz
#

I just finished the main story, and killed silver rathalos and golden ratian

heady goblet
icy stump
#

Are you playing hammer or Switch axe in this one? SOLKEKW

#

Can't believe they gave hammer SA's continuous swing without the stamina depletion lil

topaz quartz
#

mmmmmh

#

hammer

#

pobre weon le dieron como caja

heady goblet
warped hawk
#

Actually this would portray that better

Does it mean I would get an bonus attack on my weapon with Fire element even if my weapon doesn't have one?

heady goblet
#

It just improves what's already there

warped hawk
#

Got it, ty

#

Also another question, perhaps a bit stupid but

#

How to read these values? Is it the resistance or something else?

heady goblet
#

Bigger number = more damage

heady goblet
#

@dire bison and @night ledge this is where we talk hunts (mostly)

dire bison
#

the other channel is more fun

night ledge
#

@heady goblet 192371169

#

steam id

dire bison
icy stump
#

I love that early game tetranadon quest that has a sam raimi spiderman reference in it

heady goblet
#

@native urchin @toxic brook @golden aurora

dire bison
#

now thats an hp bar

night ledge
#

not eating before mr quest. worst mistake of my life

wide oyster
night ledge
#

whoops

wide oyster
#

the game doesn't really communicate that to you, so it's fine

#

at least you know in case this happens again

dire bison
#

is there any greater pleasure in the world than using a hammer against that bone monster and fly through the air while front flipping with your hammer and breaking like 20 spikes in a single jump

icy stump
#

Gunning down either a plesioth/gravios in cold blood by abusing valor HBG in GU

#

Doubly so if youre doing that one G4 key quest in GU to help people progress that has you fight a glavenus and a gravios, but you with the hbg are able to solo the gravios fast enough to be able to kill the sonnuva bitch faster than the other 3 people can kill the Glavenus with their powers combined

#

That is a special kind of power trip

dire bison
#

been playing a bit of rise and watching some streamers i like play world for the first time

#

and as much as i dont enjoy world damn, the game looks really good

icy stump
#

World looks nice graphically, but tbh I'm not a fan of how the monsters don't pop as much off the scenery

#

Like genuinely there have been times where I've been running around the ancient forest looking for a rathian, only to realise I ran by it earlier while entirely missing it somehow

dire bison
#

that just means his camouflage is working

icy stump
#

True!

rose bison
dire bison
#

wait is the green female and the red male?

icy stump
#

Was wondering if when someone was gonna point that out

rose bison
#

the rath family has pretty big sexual dimorphism, and rathians are just female versions of rathalos

dire bison
#

i thought they were totally different

rose bison
#

they're the same species just female and male

icy stump
#

Ye rathians are just female rathalos lol

dire bison
#

i dont like that

icy stump
#

Like lunastra are female toasters

dire bison
#

the green should be bigger than

#

then

rose bison
#

why

icy stump
#

And how black diablos are just really horny (heh) female diablos

rose bison
#

yeah

#

a lot of monsters in this game have dimoprhism like that

dire bison
#

because it makes sense in my head

#

and spiders

rose bison
#

some of them you cant tell as much but others are rathian and rathalos

icy stump
rose bison
#

and also the behaviors are pretty realistic

#

world is really good at making a realistic ecosystem with fantasy creatures

icy stump
#

Rathian is literally hard coded in game to hunt you down if you steal eggs

rose bison
#

rise does a pretty good job too but its not the main focus like world

icy stump
#

I'm pretty sure that was even in the older games

dire bison
#

wait isnt there a azure rath?

icy stump
#

Tbh I'm of the firm opion that I'd rather have my fun fights first and foremost, and my funny ecology aspects second

rose bison
icy stump
rose bison
#

azure rathalos and pink rathian

#

actually is it a variant or a subspecies

#

i dont remember

icy stump
#

Subspecies

rose bison
#

yeah its a subspecies, which is an offshoot that adapted to a slightly different environment

icy stump
#

Variants are monster that started normal, but smth happened to make them not normal

rose bison
#

yeah and variants are specifically individual monsters

icy stump
#

Ie, angry monke losing his tail and ascending to super monke 2, or deviljho going apeshit from cannibalism

rose bison
#

subspecies is an entire offshoot of the species

icy stump
#

Ye

#

Tho the overlap between deviant and variant is odd

rose bison
#

deviant is individuals that adapted to EXTREME environments

#

its basically just a more intense variant

icy stump
#

Afaik, variant is thing that can happen naturally, deviant changes come from explicitly the monsters having fought hunters before

#

Like deadeye yian garuga and bloodbath diablos come to mind

#

Which also kinda tracks given rise apexes are made because of ibushi/narwa fucking around and everything around them had to adapt or die basically

rose bison
#

deviants are

#

quote

icy stump
#

Deviants

rose bison
#

are special monster individuals that have survived harsh conditions and have changed to overcome said extremes they've faced.

icy stump
#

Yeah

rose bison
#

those harsh conditions could be hunters

#

and its not very unlikely that it would be hunters

icy stump
#

In the cases of deadeye/bloodbath it was explicitly hunters

#

I wonder what made dreadking evolve even further beyond tho?

rose bison
#

maybe it lived in a volcano or smth idk

#

ill look it up

#

okay it doesnt say

icy stump
#

Also smth I don't see people mention alot is how in rise alot of base monsters get their old deviant moves (astalos headsaber/zinogre super uppercut/silverlos and goldian getting dreadking/queen nukes)

rose bison
#

it talks about it being an "evolved king of kings"

icy stump
#

That implies the deviant behavior is becoming less deviant

rose bison
#

or maybe they just wanted the cool moves in the game without adding deviants

#

thats more likely i think

icy stump
#

And that's simultaneously cool conceptually, but also shitty cause it just drops the odds of me getting deviants back anytime soon

rose bison
#

i wish they'd admit to themselves that apexes are just deviants though

icy stump
icy stump
rose bison
#

so apexes are really good and the OG ones are lame and bad?

#

doesnt sound right

icy stump
#

You and I come from different households

#

My family Mac in cheese is really good

rose bison
#

you should use more objective of analogies

icy stump
#

Prolly

#

It's like comparing a work of art made by a person, to a ai art piece that was trained off someone's art

rose bison
#

thats a pretty good one

icy stump
#

The main components of the composition are there

#

But the soul

rose bison
#

it was like rise copying the homework of the other game with bad handwriting

icy stump
#

The soul badguy is missing

rose bison
#

exactly

icy stump
#

Like don't get me wrong, having basically bloodbath diablos in rise is fun

#

But at the same time it's just not him

#

Because bloodbath carries a certain oh fuck factor to the fight apex just kind lacks

#

Mainly because bloodbath proper gets 2 unique boss themes and proper phases and stuff but still

#

Crazy how capcom took one of the most painfully average monsters in the whole series, and made their deviant arguably one of the coolest fights in the series

rose bison
#

diablos is pretty boring by itself yeah

icy stump
#

Diablos run good

#

That's it

rose bison
#

i think he's pretty fun looking

icy stump
#

Look him run
Loom him go
Loom him trample all his foe

#

Them there's bloodbath who was explicitly designed to hard counter you getting cocky with your stronger styles like adept or valor, with moves that explicitly hard counter those styles (multihiting spin, moves designed to bait counters, roar->charge)

#

Considering that no other monster in GU was really balanced like that really made bloodbath really fucking cool

rose bison
#

makes sense

icy stump
#

In rise apex feels behind the curve on that one

#

Because he was designed to be a equal to the GU movesets, which were inherently more limited than the rise ones

night ledge
#

I just wish there were more skeletons in world

#

It feels like there's 3

distant storm
knotty ledge
#

Going through some HR quests in MHR, ping me if you want to help 👌

icy stump
#

PC or switch?

knotty ledge
#

I got it on PC now finally 😅

night ledge
#

Whooo!

night ledge
knotty ledge
night ledge
#

Rn?

#

I'll prolly be home in like 30min

icy stump
#

Im Switch gamer

#

Sadness

knotty ledge
wide oyster
#

would it be ok if I joined as well?

night ledge
#

@wide oyster @knotty ledge am home

knotty ledge
wide oyster
#

I'll join in 20 minutes or so

knotty ledge
#

Also @wide oyster

wide oyster
#

something came up

knotty ledge
#

Ok!

wide oyster
#

you go to the cat next to the item box in the hub

#

where you claimed your dlc

knotty ledge
#

Ok! On it

wide oyster
#

and start a lobby

#

make sure to put a password as well

knotty ledge
#

Ok, code is 2424

night ledge
#

@knotty ledge add me on steam

#

192371169

#

whoo!

knotty ledge
#

Sent it!

night ledge
#

and if you just wanna send me an invite i can join

#

from friends list at the cat

knotty ledge
#

Ok one sec

#

It’s not working 💀

night ledge
#

💀

#

perhaps

knotty ledge
wide oyster
#

password is 1234

knotty ledge
#

Maybe let’s just join Seri’s SOLKEKW

#

Idk how to change the online thing AnjiPain

wide oyster
#

disband your lobby

#

go to your friends list

#

click on my name

#

and go to lobby info

knotty ledge
#

It says it couldn’t find the lobby InoPlan

wide oyster
#

try checking your lobby invitations

knotty ledge
#

👌

#

Nice, not sure why it didn’t work for me before

#

Might be steam saying I’m offline when I’m not MayPopcorn

#

Ok I just need to beat 3 quests to get HR4

night ledge
#

lets get em

dire bison
#

if someone was to do fatalis blind how long would you think it takes them to solo

night ledge
#

sorry about the sleeping hit MaySad

knotty ledge
#

I did it too on the first one 😭

wide oyster
#

I have to do something for a bit

#

feel free to go w/o me

#

sorry

knotty ledge
#

Ok 👌

#

Jyuratodos 😞

#

Gotta be the lamest monster ever

rose bison
#

youve obviously never seen congalala

icy stump
#

You leave the fart monke alone, he funny

wide oyster
#

I hope that there are no fish monsters in wilds

#

or, if there is one, that the fight is actually enjoyable

icy stump
#

Too bad, they're bringing plesioth bacj

#

Welcome to hell

dire bison
#

as long as they dont go back in time and do under water fights

knotty ledge
#

Charge blade is peak

night ledge
#

hardest quest

wide oyster
#

join

rose bison
#

he's just lame

wide oyster
#

lol

knotty ledge
#

The sonic quest ain’t no way 😭

night ledge
knotty ledge
#

That is now my favorite quest 🥰

#

I can’t join this one

night ledge
#

can zak join?

wide oyster
#

rip

night ledge
#

sadge

night ledge
#

lmao

knotty ledge
#

It’s fine, I’ll sit one out while I do some stuff 😎

night ledge
#

i too was going to grab that one

wide oyster
#

we can continue the HR grind

night ledge
#

ye

#

i got time for 1 more anyway

knotty ledge
night ledge
#

alr that was p fast

wide oyster
#

this monster rocks

night ledge
#

1 more?

wide oyster
#

sure

knotty ledge
#

Can I post it 😳

rose bison
wide oyster
#

you can post one

wide oyster
rose bison
#

I KNEW IT

knotty ledge
#

New charge blade skill acquired 👌

wide oyster
#

congrats

knotty ledge
#

Thanks for helping me out Zyx!

#

Seri do you want to keep playing or are you bouncing too?

wide oyster
#

I'm probably going to head off as well

#

thanks for the hunts

knotty ledge
#

Ok! Thank you too then!

#

Y’all are great ElpheltMetal

night ledge
#

ty for having me!

dire bison
#

trying to decided if i wanna stick with gunlance cuz thats all ive played since world or try something new and spicy like the switch axe

wide oyster
#

try swaxe

#

rise has the most fun iteration of the weapon

#

by far

rose bison
#

i use hammer personally

#

its so fun

dire bison
#

been watching a streamer solo fatalis blind with i think a hammer

dire bison
# wide oyster try swaxe

i was thinking of that too but i dont even pay attention to resources in fighting games, my main genre, doing it in rise seems like i wont either

wide oyster
#

could be fun to pick up a new skill

#

but it's up to you

#

all of the weapons are pretty fun

dire bison
#

oh im dumb

#

you did say switch axe

#

i thought you meant charged blade or some dumb reason

knotty ledge
# night ledge

I’ve figured out how to go online… only took 444 days SOLKEKW

night ledge
#

killed ||chameleos||

wide oyster
#

nice

icy stump
rose bison
#

ha true

dire bison
#

what is this meat stick weapon

heady goblet
#

Hammer

dire bison
#

yeah i know the type

#

but what is it

heady goblet
#

"Juicy Well-Done Hammer"

dire bison
#

i see ty

heady goblet
knotty ledge
#

Continuing the HR grind. If anyone wants to join hit me up!

dire bison
dire bison
#

you guys ever mod the game

heady goblet
#

Yes

#

I have a lot of really cool weapon mods you can't download anymore

topaz quartz
#

mandatorio usarlo

#

mods are the best

knotty ledge
#

I need to kill the wind serpent in PC Rise. I’ll save the quest for later because I don’t want to do the rampage solo so if anyone wants to help… InoPlan

heady goblet
knotty ledge
#

I have no idea what’s happening in that clip SOLKEKW

#

Is that GU?

golden aurora
#

Frontier

knotty ledge
heady goblet
heady goblet
#

@azure fox You started playing Monster Hunter?

azure fox
#

Mhm

#

My boyfriend wanted to try it and I got $50 bucks on steam and it was on sale

#

So I bought world with iceborne for both of us

heady goblet
#

Cool

#

How have y'all been enjoying it?

azure fox
#

It’s pretty fun

#

I’m not new to mh so it’s going as I expected it

#

Bf is being an insect glaive main and getting his shit pushed in

#

I decided to go the cool way and bonk my way through the game

rose bison
#

HAMMER BRO

heady goblet
#

Nice, Hammer is always a good time

rose bison
#

YOU'RE MY FRIEND NOW

dire bison
#

theres 2 bonk weapons and you guys just assumed hammer

rose bison
#

WE'RE HAVING SOFT TACOS LATER

dire bison
#

smh

heady goblet
rose bison
azure fox
heady goblet
#

There is only one bonk weapon

#

The other one is doot

azure fox
rose bison
#

theres a bonk weapon and theres a bard weapon

heady goblet
azure fox
#

Idk actually remember if it was 3 but I know it had generations in the title

#

Long ago

#

But my friend also has like

heady goblet
#

Generations?

#

That's a different game than 3G

azure fox
#

6000+ hours in world so I’m familiar with world from watching

heady goblet
#

Generations was the ten year anniversarry title

azure fox
dire bison
#

i remember buying the first mh on the switch and was having an alright time online but then nintendo announced online was no longer going to be free and the game died for me at that moment

heady goblet
azure fox
#

I forgored which one it was bc I was little

icy stump
#

GU was and still is peak MH

heady goblet
#

Frontier imo is better but then again you gotta use dubious means to obtain it

azure fox
#

Okay yeah it wasn’t the one on the Wii U lmao

heady goblet
azure fox
#

Wait

#

I may be a stupid fucking baby

#

Wait

#

Oh god that WAS ON THE 3DS

heady goblet
#

Yes

azure fox
#

That’s why I thought of it

#

Oml I forgot I played on there

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I was thinking of the one on like the ps2 or whichever one it was

heady goblet
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Dos?

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One?

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Freedom?

azure fox
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Gimme a sec I’m trying to find it

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At work

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Connection is shit

heady goblet
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It's cool

azure fox
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Yeah it was dos

heady goblet
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Cool

azure fox
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I barely played that one but I remember the cover art

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That and the one on the 3DS

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I played those two a bit but not too much

heady goblet
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My first was Generations

rose bison
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my first was rise

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crazy to think some people's first will be wilds

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whatever that game is like

icy stump
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My first was 4U

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3U/4U/base gen were on the 3ds

azure fox
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With some fixes here and there

rose bison
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hopefully not like world

azure fox
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(The cutscene shit is awful)

rose bison
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hopefully like rise but more like world

azure fox
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Unga when reactions moment

icy stump
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Give me customizable movesets and alternate weapon playstyles, that's all I need