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#Monster Hunter
rose bison
icy stump
heady goblet
Indeed
rose bison
heck i still have a bit to go and ive beaten sunbreak
icy stump
Malzeno is sick as fuck
wide oyster
his teleportation gimmick was fun
heady goblet
Primal Malzeno is really dope too
wide oyster
and he had clear openings
icy stump
When malzeno first teleported against me I was shooketh
rose bison
Primal Malzeno is really dope too
my arch nemesis
icy stump
Rocket dragons I can contend with
rose bison
last time i played i was grinding for silver rath armor so i can beat him
wide oyster
Primal Malzeno looks pretty cool
icy stump
TELEPORTS?!?
wide oyster
he also drops one of the best LSs in the game
heady goblet
my arch nemesis
We still gotta help you get up to snuff on PC
rose bison
yeah ehhh
heady goblet
His LS is solid but it's not the best
icy stump
Teleports be spooky
wide oyster
?
icy stump
The triple 4 slots are fucking goated tho
wide oyster
are you using a switch pro controller?
right click on the game
go to controller setup
there should be a community-made one
heady goblet
pc has entirely different controls even if i use a controller
It has different interaction stuff but combat should be the same
wide oyster
that sets it to the switch inputs
icy stump
TBF primal malzeno weapons are like the final boss of base SB gear
Great for start of MR endgame
wide oyster
I see
icy stump
Like priMalzeno gear can work, there's just slightly better options
It is sick tho if you're using the full set for him tho
heady goblet
It's the best Pierce Dragon bow at least
wide oyster
I've just been trying to fit all of the skills I need
icy stump
The extra heals on bloodrite procs are nice
wide oyster
so my armor set has 0 visual synergy at all
heady goblet
The extra heals on bloodrite procs are nice
True
icy stump
Layered armor my beloved
heady goblet
so my armor set has 0 visual synergy at all
God bless layer armor
icy stump
One thing I gotta say about SB tho
It's a fucking crime Steve weapons can't self sharpen anymore, it's fucking bullshit
They gave other monsters weapon gimmicks
wide oyster
is Steve Seregios?
icy stump
Where auto sharpen on roll
heady goblet
Yeah
icy stump
Also yes
wide oyster
ah
icy stump
Steve is seregios
heady goblet
Who though putting projectiles on a divekick was a good idea
heady goblet
I know Unga
icy stump
He needed it before cause he was piss easy
wide oyster
his bleed mechanic is pretty annoying
heady goblet
At least you can still crouch to clear it
wide oyster
he applies some sort of debuff
icy stump
Before, it was poison you cured by crouching/fish/meat
wide oyster
but I have no idea what it does
wide oyster
no
I mean
when Malzeno attacks you
the hunter
he applies some sort of purple debuff
iirc
icy stump
Dragon?
heady goblet
You mean Magnamalo?
wide oyster
Magnamalo applies a debuff?
icy stump
Yeah the fart clouds
icy stump
Blastblight. But useful!
If you wiredash with it on you it leaves a little fart mine that the monsters can hit to deal damage to themselves
1st time they hit it you get a knockdown
heady goblet
You wiredash and it creates an orb that gives a knockdown when he hits it
icy stump
Hellfire cloak let's you use it against any monster
But they have to enrage
SB has alotta interesting skill additions
heady goblet
I hope we get more cool skills like what we have
rose bison
are you using a switch pro controller?
yeah i am
the inputs are the opposite of what they are on switch so its confusing
wide oyster
you can fix that
by right clicking on the game
and adjusting your controller settings
I think that it's in properties
rose bison
i already have my steam controller settings set for it though
i play all my games with this controller
heady goblet
I started using that recently, and yeah it's kinda confusing but I just swapped the X and Y and it's worked for me
wide oyster
you can adjust it on a per-game basis iirc
so you can keep your normal settings
for every other game
and switch them
for MHR
rose bison
would be so much easier if the game just had button remapping
wide oyster
it would be
rose bison
why do games not add button remapping
heady goblet
They're cringe
wide oyster
I don't get why the switch controller even has this issue
in the first place
it works perfectly for every other game
but MH swaps its buttons
for some inexplicable reason
heady goblet
Hell yeah, what platform you on?
topaz quartz
PC
heady goblet
Then yeah I'd be down to hunt sometime
heady goblet
RM?
heady goblet
Anyone want to do some hunts in like 45 minutes?
heady goblet
Indeed
wide oyster
sorry for the stupid question, but what do you do after finishing the final boss
I unlocked quite a few TU monsters and anomaly stuff
but I have no idea where to start
the only things I've done are Flaming Espinas and Anomaly Arzuros
heady goblet
Grind to perfect your sets
wide oyster
what monsters should I be fighting?
I noticed that Flaming Espinas was a massive difficulty jump
compared to M5 and M6
heady goblet
Okay, so you should focus on getting your damage and defense up via the monsters prior to and including Giasmagorm
heady goblet
Focus on getting the necessary skills like Wex, Crit Boost, and damage bonuses focusing around whether or not you're focusing raw or element
wide oyster
ah
I did that already
I think that I have CE6 now
since I swapped some decos around after taking this screenshot
heady goblet
Honestly, pretty good set
I can give you a set searcher to help you get an idea on what to shoot for if you'd like
wide oyster
sure, that'd be great
I'm interested in risen Kushala and teostra stuff
but I'm nowhere close to being there rn
my armor is only level 7
should I be grinding additional levels?
I noticed that the cap skyrocketed after Gaismagorm
to around 30 or so
heady goblet
wide oyster
thank you
heady goblet
This is the holy grail of set searches
wide oyster
I think that I'm more so in the market for a weapon upgrade
I'm currently using the rarity 9 mizutsune ls
which is okay
for raw
but a rarity 10 sword would be nice
Lucent Narga's looks great
but I don't know if I'm capable of doing that boss
I also don't have buildup boost
or Chameleos' blessing
I just don't know what to start with
should I be prioritizing the TU monsters
or anomaly stuff
heady goblet
Lucent Narga's looks great
Yeah, it's goated
heady goblet
should I be prioritizing the TU monsters
Prioritize getting up to snuff and then worry about everything else
wide oyster
what would getting up to snuff constitute?
I'm pretty satisfied with my decos and armor skills
heady goblet
Well like you mentioned you wanted a better Raw LS so go for the Tigrex LS iirc
Also, Agitator is a good skill
wide oyster
I see
I'll take a look at those then
thank you
would it be wise to spend armor spheres on upgrading my armor?
or should I save them for later
since I'll probably end up replacing what I have right now eventually
heady goblet
or should I save them for later
Save them for better armor
wide oyster
so I should stay at armor level 7 on all my gear
then
right?
got it
thanks for the advice
heady goblet
Ah
icy stump
The best timeline version of the ||amatsu|| fight
icy stump
wide oyster
out of curiosity, how difficult are Velkhana/Amatsu?
icy stump
Velk is like flaming espinas tier and amatstsu is a step further than that
Amatsu is hard in the same way gaismagotm is hard tho
Big hitboxes/damage
Readable as hell
wide oyster
ah
I'm able to beat flaming espinas pretty consistently
so I guess Velk would be fairly doable
I hated Gaismagorm
so I'm not excited for Amatsu
all of Rise's "final bosses" have been awful imo
||Narwa, Ibushi, and Gaismagorm||
hunting them is just tedious
and uninteresting
wide oyster
that's good
icy stump
He certainly puts up the biggest fight of the 4
wide oyster
the 3 I mentioned are just so repetitive
icy stump
The only thing about amatsu that kind sucks is his fight is hella dependent on weapon choice, cause some weapons just suvk against him
icy stump
Cause he does the narwabushi thing of floating
But he floats a little higher off the ground
icy stump
The ballista only binds him tho
And you can't bind him until he's mid attack cause wind aura
In my experience tryna bring LS to fight him is alright because the up swings and all that tend to hit him decently well
Unfortunately in my experience using counters to build meter is a bad idea, cause you'll parry a attack, but whiff the body, meaning you don't get the gauge lvl up
That's negated by just using tempered spirit blade on everything but that's a band aid fix really, cause you're effectively losing out on damage if you build for that playstyle
wide oyster
I see
yeah
tempered spirit blade was my savior against Gaismagorm and Ibushi
but it does no damage at all
interesting
so Amatsu is one of those fights
but a bit tougher
thanks for the advice
huh
what in the world
I had no idea Velkhana's armor was that good
icy stump
Frost craft is simultaneously sick as fuck for special sheathe builds because of frostcraft, but it's also kinda a pain in the ass
wide oyster
yeah
the QS3 and Deco slots
seem really nice
and Frostcraft is a good added bonus
I probably won't be building around it
though
icy stump
Yeah, one parry basically depletes the bar as is
wide oyster
I usually swap to sacred sheath when the monster is knocked down
icy stump
So going for 3 levels of it to get the bigger bar anyways is kinda ehhh
icy stump
That like, 40% at max is nuts
wide oyster
Special is the omae WA mou parry
I see
then yeah
I swap to sacred
when the monster is knocked down
icy stump
Yeah that's the general strategy
If you're a sicko like me who runs evade skills+evade proc skills+some quicksheathe you can do some silly shit abusing the nature of the sacred sheathe stance evades
icy stump
Personally I like it cause you have options off of it
icy stump
I use it with the reckoning combo, so you can either follow up with the finisher->X->spirit combo 3->finisher to get some extra distance, or even do foresight slash iirc
Oh
The automatic one
wide oyster
yep
icy stump
That let's you go right back into a combo iirc
wide oyster
I see
icy stump
You burn a bar but ah well
icy stump
Modern LS can gain and lose bars at will rn
icy stump
Back in 4U you built up to red and couldn't refresh it
Once it runs our you're back to ZERO
wide oyster
huh
icy stump
They fixed that shit in GU thank god
icy stump
Yeah
If the gauge ran out, you lost it all
Tbf back in I wanna say Freedom unite, you dint even have levels, just the spirit combo
heady goblet
Thankfully in GU they changed it to dropping a single level
icy stump
More damage
wide oyster
ah
icy stump
Built in minds eye
icy stump
Old mh was nuts
Gen 1 GS?
Could not charge at all
You swung that bitch like a maniac
wide oyster
lol
icy stump
Funnily enough surge slash GS is weirdly a return to form for the weapon lol
Reject charge attacks
Embrace G1
icy stump
Nuh uh
Surge slash based as fuck
Tbf I like it cause I reminds me of my starting days in 4U, where I swung the GS around like a maniac to start
But it's still fun, and TBH it feels more in tune with how Old GS felt to play
Namely, about a quarter of the time i want to shot myself
The other 75% of the time I feel like a genius. Namely because it doesn't have a get out of jail free card like Charge GS has in tackle
heady goblet
I wouldn't consider tackle a get out of jail free card
Like sure, you don't have to reposition, but you're still getting absolutely smoked by the move that hits you
icy stump
I mean it isn't exactly, but gen 5 gs kinda feels icky to me
Mostly due to tackle and what feels like a overreliance on TCS to get a reaction out of the monster
Tackle in my eyes mainly sucks because it takes alot of nuance out of playing GS normally (its way easier to brute force things)
Whereas something like the dash strike from valor GS added a extra level of nuance (you are rewarded for knowing a monsters attack patterns with a greater ability to whiff punish)
Literally if I had dash strike, as a option to use instead of Tackle, Gen 5 GS would prolly the the best version of GS imo
heady goblet
You don't need to use dash strike if you know a monster that well
icy stump
I mean yeah, but it still offers more opportunities to do so
heady goblet
Does it?
icy stump
Yeah
heady goblet
I'd argue quickstep does more than dash strike
icy stump
Tailspins become way easier to whiff punish with dash strike
Big aoe moves like tremors?
heady goblet
Headsniping:
icy stump
Way easier to punish
heady goblet
I wouldn't even say that punishing is the be all end all of Greatsword
icy stump
It's not just whiff punishing tho
You can use it for preemptive snipes too
heady goblet
Like, it's an important cornerstone, but good positioning and timing is way more important
I'm boutta lose signal, we gonna have to continue this tomorrow
icy stump
Ok
But yeah imo valor GS is still the most fun version of GS, closely followed by surge slash
heady goblet
I agree that Valor GS is the most fun version of GS, however I disagree with the statement that Surge Slash is anywhere near it, I much prefer the slower and weightier charge version of Greatsword
icy stump
Imo surge slash feels more in line with older GS than the normal charge method does in SB in a wierd roundabout sorta way
Namely with stuff like strongarm/tackle GS is able to brute force things alot harder than they could before, and in fact being rewarded for doing so (tackle Lvls you up to the next charge stage/strongarm let's you Lvl 3 immediately, and if you do it mid charge you get a free TCS)
Surge slash on the other hand has way less room for error, if you get greedy and go for a extra attack, you get decked out of whatever move you were doing and knocked flat on your face because the moves are still fairly slow, the only move it has with super armor is the lvl 3 A roundabout swing, which has armor, but also basically zero damage reduction, so if you use it absentmindedly you get obliterated by multihits.
Surge slash feels more in line with old GS because in a way, it kind of sucks to play (at least initially), because your big damage moves take time to work up to and one mistake puts you flat on your ass/back to square 1. However once you really get good at it and learn the monster, you can really put on the hurt with consecutive well placed attacks while being able to weave in and out of the monsters attacks, effectively never missing a opening. Whereas "normal" charge GS in Gen 5 feels way easier to brute force. Start a charge too early, or setup in a bad spot? Tackle and get to maintain ground, and fire off a stronger charged attack. That and Strongarm make the weapon (particularly in SB) feel very flowcharty, since all you need is two wirebugs to eat, sleep, and shit out damage. (kind of like what happened in Base rise with LS parries)
Like undoubtedly if you like to see the big numbers go brr the latter GS method is far in a way better, but in terms of feeling like how old GS did in terms of how it sucks to learn initially, vs the feeling of being unstoppable upon mastering it against particularly hard monsters. It's basically 1-1 with old GS
Tl:Dr, surge slash feels more in line with Classic GS, cause both can be a pain in the ass to use, but when you get good at them you feel damn near unbeatable
heady goblet
I mean sure, but it's proximity to the original concept of Greatsword has very little to do with my enjoyment of the style, in fact I would make the assertion that it overall negatively effects my overall enjoyment of it. Simply due to how fast the styles animations generally are in comparison to the charge styles
Also I dunno why but this conversation just reminded me that Focus not only speeds up GS' charge times, it speeds up the animations themselves
icy stump
Really?
heady goblet
Yeah
icy stump
...does it speed up surge slash ?
heady goblet
I dunno
It was World spaghetti probably, but it's worthwhile to see if it applies to Rise
icy stump
Neat
wide oyster
Velk is like flaming espinas tier and amatstsu is a step further than that
yeah, this was about right
having fought both of them now
Amatsu was incredibly difficult
I was probably underleveled
but Velk was fine
Violet Mizutsune was much harder than it
icy stump
Violet mizu is hard purely cause aimbot bubbles
icy stump
All its moves are spoofs of either normal mizu/soulseer (it's gu deviant)
wide oyster
yep
I don't get what Mizutsune's deal is
it's trivial in low rank
incredibly difficult in high rank
trivial in master rank
incredibly difficult variant
icy stump
He's the mixup monster
"He's the bubble dragon, surely he isn't hard"
gets obliterated
The flame puddles and aimbot bubbles are what make violet way harder imo
wide oyster
yep
those were obnoxious
also the fact that you have to fight him in an arena
so you don't really get any downtime
to collect yourself
icy stump
You could bring farcastees if you want
wide oyster
oh
you're right
I could've.
that would have been smart
ah well
at least I got what I wanted from him
I have no use for violet mizutsune anymore
how's world compared to rise?
heady goblet
It's a Monster Hunter game
It does some interesting stuff, but a portion of it is pretty annoying
heady goblet
I have no use for violet mizutsune anymore
It's armor actually is pretty decent, it comes up a surprising amount in the set search
heady goblet
They're definitely good for Bow at least
wide oyster
not yet, but I'm planning to
I also want to unlock qurious melding
I'm halfway there
now that I've beaten Amatsu
Chaotic Gore is the only one left
heady goblet
It gets pretty crazy depending on your rolls
wide oyster
I got really lucky with my talismans early on
so I've been using the same one
for a while
wirebug whisperer 3 2/2/1
heady goblet
Yeah, that's pretty solid
wide oyster
for sure
rose bison
Violet Mizutsune was much harder than it
I LOVE VIOLET MIZU
heady goblet
My best is pretty crazy
Constitution 5
And I think Stamina Surge 3
4/1/1
I think
It's basically the best a bow user can hope for
icy stump
My best tailisman rn is a evade window 5/earplugs 4/2-2-2
Earplugs 4 is basically the best version of it, cause 5 barely does anything, and evade window 5 is basically Olde evade window 1 (why da hell did they nerf rolls to have terrible I frames in rise)
wide oyster
Earplugs 4 is basically the best version of it, cause 5 barely does anything, an...
because every weapon has a counter
earplugs seems useful
can you still counter roars with it?
heady goblet
Earplugs 4 is basically the best version of it, cause 5 barely does anything, an...
Because people complained about the buff in World
Yes, but it's generally not advised to take it on anything besides Greatsword
rose bison
i thought you could always counter roars
heady goblet
Yes
wide oyster
does earplugs remove that functionality?
heady goblet
No
wide oyster
since you're not really getting hit by the roar
ah
interesting
thanks for letting me know
the skill seems pretty useful
heady goblet
No problem
wide oyster
especially against monsters like Khezu
rose bison
I mean using something like foresight slash or strongarm stance
i was misinterpreting what you were saying
i thought you were saying like "earplugs used to let you counter roars, does it still do that"
heady goblet
~~especially against monsters like Khezu~~
Yeah it's really only a select few Monsters to weapon matchups that benefit from the skill unfortunately
heady goblet
It basically is
wide oyster
I have the max level of it thanks to one of my armor pieces
but I don't think that I've ever seen it come into play
rose bison
theres really only a very small amount of monsters that actually use wind pressure
i dont even know which ones
wide oyster
I thought that it'd be good against Kushala
rose bison
kushala daora?
wide oyster
but it doesn't really do anything
rose bison
it might use it
heady goblet
Kush
heady goblet
Anything with wings can proc it
wide oyster
what does it even do
icy stump
You have to max wind resist to reduce the blowback
rose bison
Anything with wings can proc it
oh that kinda makes sense
icy stump
Chammys set bonus negates all wind, his included
rose bison
like when they fly up into the air
rose bison
and it makes you stunned for a second
icy stump
Yeah it's a Lil pushback
heady goblet
what does it even do
Stops you from getting stuck in an animation if you come into contact with a tiny wind box from monsters taking off
wide oyster
that's not the most useful thing out there
but it's nice
much better than I thought it was
at least
icy stump
All those "negate x" skills are nice cause they negate the effect, but also still let you parry them
The way it works is there's like a windbox/tremorbox/roarbox on certain moves, and afaik having those skills (earplugs/tremor resist/wind resist) don't remove the hitboxes, they simply turn off the effects if you were to get hit by it
The weapon counters/evade skills, whatnot, don't care wether or not you would be affected by something, only if you managed to parry/evade the hitbox on the effects
icy stump
Defiance is prolly the best version of that skill tho, cause it's basically all three, plus a boost in defense, albeit only when the monster is pissed
heady goblet
i like just rolling through roars
Me too
wide oyster
I don't think that I've ever rolled through a roar
icy stump
Same, but I got the earplugs free with my tailisman, sooooooo
icy stump
The base I frames suck ass
icy stump
It's literally a nerfed version of the old roll
rose bison
i like the idea of not being able to rely on iframes
and just using the roll for positioning mostly
icy stump
You need evade window 3 to get the old roll
rose bison
but i also cant live without my iframes
wide oyster
and just using the roll for positioning mostly
yep
I really like this
evade extender is one of my favorite skills
for that reason
heady goblet
Same, but the old roll already only allowed for a 2 frame window of error
wide oyster
it allows you to reposition so well
icy stump
The rise roll just feels really stubby in general
rose bison
You need evade window 3 to get the old roll
and thats what i use
wide oyster
is evade window worth it?
heady goblet
Yes
icy stump
Prolly cause they balanced the game around the bugs
wide oyster
I've never tried the skill
rose bison
evade extender is one of my favorite skills
i also love evade extender cause it makes your wirebug jumps go farther
you can get across the map really fast
icy stump
Evade window kicks ass with evade based skills like adrenaline rush/bladescale/stat trigger
heady goblet
Bow is dependent on Evade Window because the slide dodge it has counts as a roll
icy stump
Stat trigger+buildup boost=free 20% damage buff+30 extra damage for 12 seconds
heady goblet
So it gets Adrenaline Procs
icy stump
And the 30 Raw lasts for 30 seconds
heady goblet
Evade Window is solid
icy stump
Yeah that's the issue
heady goblet
Because it effects some of the counters
rose bison
i love how ls has like 5 counters
wide oyster
I don't think that it affects LS' counters
heady goblet
Foresight in particular
wide oyster
i love how ls has like 5 counters
:)
rose bison
its so funny to me
heady goblet
Yeah
wide oyster
the base timing is really forgiving already
heady goblet
It gets ridiculous
heady goblet
Deadass fully mistime it and still get it
icy stump
I use evade window in my BB/Stat trigger/flame mantle build
I use it with sacred sheathe/full johnny gettup
wide oyster
ah
icy stump
I am johnny guilty gear
wide oyster
it's probably good for sacred sheath
icy stump
Hehe, funny birb
rose bison
well its awesome in general i love looking like an owl man
icy stump
Man I miss malfestio
Funni big birb
heady goblet
I should try making a cowboy some day
rose bison
now
heady goblet
When you feel you're ready
rose bison
ive fought him like 6 times but never beat him
heady goblet
I beat him second try personally
icy stump
Yeaaaah
Spirit birds caller at lvl 4 with hopping dango skewers let's you max hp fast
You're gonna need it
rose bison
last time i played i was on a journey of self improvement
wide oyster
from his pokes
icy stump
PriMalzeno is hard, but certainly doable
wide oyster
his weapon is pretty nice
rose bison
i think i straight up get oneshot by some attacks with my current armor
icy stump
last time i played i was on a journey of self improvement
PC or switch?
heady goblet
His weapons are really good elemental weapons
rose bison
ive gotta get better armor first
icy stump
We can booly rath too
rose bison
4 silver rath cortexes is all i need iirc
heady goblet
on the pc ive barely done anything
You want a hand to blitz past LR/HR?
rose bison
You want a hand to blitz past LR/HR?
nah i can blitz past it on my own
heady goblet
Aight
rose bison
i cant play at the moment
heady goblet
I gotta farm Lucent Narg stuff
icy stump
Bruh
rose bison
but soon
heady goblet
Just for raw weapons
rose bison
ive got some school i have to do cause i didnt do it in the week
icy stump
Lucent narga weapons started off ok but got busted as the dlc came out
rose bison
just a test
heady goblet
Yeah
icy stump
BB3+Stat trigger easily really does numbers
heady goblet
It's a shame Lucent Narga bow is useless
wide oyster
ah
I've just been using the flaming espinas sword for now
since it's pretty decent raw
and has good deco slots
heady goblet
but elemental is still better, right?
For certain weapons and setups, yes
rose bison
i dont like using raw
icy stump
Flaming espinas rocks cause it double dips in pouson
wide oyster
I'm planning to go back to ele builds once I get velk pants
heady goblet
Like
rose bison
id assume raw is really good on hammer though
icy stump
Elem makes a big difference on surge slash GS surprisingly
heady goblet
GS, LS, Hammer are all practically defacto raw
icy stump
LS?
heady goblet
Yeah
wide oyster
LS has pretty decent elemental sets
icy stump
I've seen people speedrun with elem LS Builds tho
heady goblet
You can run element with it but generally raw is slightly better
icy stump
Namely using the aurorcanth LS vs monke
rose bison
GS, LS, Hammer are all practically defacto raw
would it make you have pain if i told you ive never used a raw hammer since i had access to elemental ones
icy stump
You can run element with it but generally raw is slightly better
We talking raw raw, or BB raw?
heady goblet
I've seen people speedrun with elem LS Builds tho
Speedrunners use specially tailored sets I'm talking in a general sense
heady goblet
would it make you have pain if i told you ive never used a raw hammer since i ha...
Nah
Play however you want
rose bison
honestly i just thought it was bad
heady goblet
We talking raw raw, or BB raw?
For Lucent you're just losing free damage without BB ngl
rose bison
i still dont really get how it could be better than elemental but idk
heady goblet
Elem doesn't suck in SB surprisingly
They have made a very good effort to make it strong
heady goblet
And they didn't take it out back and kill it with the final Monsters gear either like with World
rose bison
except a little more easy to figure out most of the time
heady goblet
Like
rose bison
DBs rock with ailments too
icy stump
Charge GS is ehhh with it
heady goblet
Fatalis gear made Raw the meta unquestionably
icy stump
Status is similar
icy stump
Fatalis gear made Raw the meta unquestionably
But they had a bit of dragon to say lol nah to non elemental boost
heady goblet
Status is similar
For Status it doesn't matter as much because generally you get the same amount of Procs regardless
icy stump
Does it tho?
rose bison
i like to think that sleep hammers dont actually have an ailment at all, they just hit harder so they knock monsters out
icy stump
I feel like DBs proc that stuff way more
heady goblet
Does it tho?
Yeah
heady goblet
I feel like DBs proc that stuff way more
It Procs faster
icy stump
i like to think that sleep hammers dont actually have an ailment at all, they ju...
Knock em out cold
heady goblet
But like
Poison DBs and Poison GS are both gonna proc poison ~3-4 times a hunt if you're being efficient
icy stump
That reminds me
I wanna make a Stat trigger/BB Para GS build
heady goblet
Have fun with that
I know Safi sleep GS was really good for speesruns in World because of how sleep works
Especially on Kulve
That shit was busted on Kulve
rose bison
Poison DBs and Poison GS are both gonna proc poison ~3-4 times a hunt if you're ...
huh interesting
heady goblet
Poison does a lot of damage
icy stump
@rose bison you around to knock some heads?
heady goblet
rose bison
let me go get my switch
icy stump
I getvto test my Para GS build lol
rose bison
i just went into the living room to get my switch and completely forgot about getting it and came back
why does my brain work this way
icy stump
Happens to us all ngl
rose bison
im ready now though
icy stump
Made a lobby
ID: RDGG10
rose bison
gotcha
icy stump
Pass 1357
rose bison
ill be there soon
rose bison
i havent played this game in forever
icy stump
Same lul
rose bison
completely forgot i had to actually join the quest
im used to being the one posting it
icy stump
rose bison
easy
icy stump
Cooked his ass
icy stump
Classic MH
rose bison
and 2 cortexes
icy stump
rose bison
which means i think i need either 2 or 3 more
rose bison
capture said 32% for cortex and carve said like 26%
i checked in the middle of the fight
icy stump
Yeah but it's 26% three times
rose bison
and capture is 32% like 4 times
icy stump
Idk I have better luck with that stuff on kills
rose bison
the best chances for cortex are from breaking parts
the back is 74%
how do you break the back though thats always such a hard one
rose bison
yup
icy stump
Good ole hunting edge
rose bison
i am out of mega potions
yippee
why do i not have honey
i must have made my submarines do something else
wait you can do that?
i had no idea that was a feature
icy stump
Lol
rose bison
guess i just was forgetting to check them
icy stump
You know you can get stuff from your subs without needing to go to the buddy plaza right?
Of you talk to the cat to the left of the mail cat when you enter egads you can talk to him to manage all your subs n shit
rose bison
well that would be nice to remember next time
ive definitely used him for meowcenaries before i just forgot about the sub part
no cortexes from carving
thats not a good sign
icy stump
I got 2
rose bison
the other person always gets the thing you need
icy stump
I snapped his spine tho
icy stump
See I reverse psyched the game
That's how you get what you want
You say you don't need it
heady goblet
Fr?
rose bison
fr
heady goblet
On god?
rose bison
months of inactivity and occasionally doing one hunt
heady goblet
Damn
icy stump
Now we keel vlad tepes
rose bison
no nargacuga X armor has natural level 5 evade window and level 3 evade extender
so i didnt really need it
i need to get them now though
icy stump
Razor sharp is also goated
rose bison
should probably get some sort of charging thing cause ive got hammer
icy stump
Bladescale Rocks with evade skills
wide oyster
according to my friend
icy stump
Ye
rose bison
okay so jumping and evasion are the extender and window jewels
icy stump
Yes
wide oyster
this doesn't look too bad
at all
actually
the mats are fairly straightforward
it's a shame that you have to fight one of the worst monsters in the game
to get it
though
rose bison
ill need 2 fey wyvern gems and 3 bishaten glidefeathers
wide oyster
ah
rose bison
the smaller slots will be for just added on charging stuff
maybe slugger if i can find some
icy stump
There's a ko 4 jewel
rose bison
why would it be bad
icy stump
We need afflicted shells/basarios mantle for dat
rose bison
i always wanna stun
wide oyster
it's much harder to get KOs down the line
the more you do
trying to rush all of them at the start
rose bison
We need afflicted shells/basarios mantle for dat
yeah but all my 4 slots are gonna be taken up by evade extender and window
icy stump
But more KO dmg=more kos
rose bison
but wouldnt you get the same amount of damage anyways
icy stump
Stack on some paralysis
rose bison
it doesnt matter when it happens as long as it does
icy stump
HO BOY
rose bison
charge master looks good
icy stump
Para BB/stat trigger hammer goes nuts
Charge master is especially for you
You wanna get crit as high as possible with the silverlos set
rose bison
i dont even have any charge master jewels unlocked nevermind
probably uses afflicted parts
rose bison
i dont need the level 4
i only have 3 level 4 slots and thats what the evade jewels are going in
icy stump
Ok charge master lvl 2 deco uses seething bagel parts
rose bison
oh thats easy
rose bison
bazelgeuse but still too easy
icy stump
Bagel but more boom
rose bison
much more cinematic though
rose bison
okay turns out i still need a weapon for the fight
icy stump
Bagel is balanced around having the ability to basically make the arena a mind field
rose bison
i remember going for malzeno hammer
icy stump
Ice?
icy stump
Seething bagel is weak to that
rose bison
no not for bagel grease
icy stump
Base Mal hammer/shaggy hammer can work
icy stump
Shaggy hammer might be the best option
rose bison
Base Mal hammer/shaggy hammer can work
i need just 1 more material no matter which one i do
icy stump
Cause high dragon+high affinity
heady goblet
Seri do you want to do some hunts in like an hour or two
rose bison
either a shagaru cortex or a malzeno hardhorn
icy stump
On a silverlos set
wide oyster
sorry, I don't think that I'll be able to
rose bison
horns are a little bit harder to get and you say shagaru is probably better
heady goblet
Damn
heady goblet
Yeah I'm down
rose bison
so we could fight a single shagaru
icy stump
either a shagaru cortex or a malzeno hardhorn
Would you be willing to turn it up a couple notches in difficulty for shaggy
rose bison
thats probably all we need for one cortex
rose bison
Would you be willing to turn it up a couple notches in difficulty for shaggy
what do you mean by that
heady goblet
what do you mean by that
Risen
rose bison
no i want to actually win the quest
icy stump
Fair
heady goblet
I would advise against it if you don't have the gear for Primal
rose bison
im not surviving against risen shagaru
heady goblet
I just realized
icy stump
Risen shaggy is mental
heady goblet
You can shorten Primal Malzeno to PriMalz
icy stump
Him and risen val/primalzeno go off
icy stump
You can shorten Primal Malzeno to PriMalz
Get this man a 
If you don't got a dragon weapon here a fire one can also work
icy stump
Welcome to the endgame
Wait till you see primalz armor
You're gonna keel over with the amount of slots that joker has
You upgrade the silverlos set with armor spheres ?
rose bison
this looks like a 1st grader randomly picked a bunch of decorations
oh i forgot to do that
icy stump
OH WAIT SILVERLOS HAS REDIRECTION ON IT
heady goblet
I am going to max the slots on my armors
rose bison
it already has almost more defense than narga, and narga is at level 14
icy stump
YOU WANNA LEARN SOME COOL SHIT
rose bison
whats up
icy stump
Allow me to introduce you to the most slept on armor skill in MH history
I'll be in the training area
rose bison
i got all my armor to level 8 cause i dont really have the money or armor spheres to do much more
icy stump
That should be fine fro primalz when we get there
Aight
So silverlos has a skill on it called redirection
You know switch skill swap?
rose bison
yeah
rose bison
huh thats sick
icy stump
But this let's you dodge alotta shit
Espicynas nuke?
No more
Pro tip, if you wanna approach with it
Face away from the monster when you do it
rose bison
its kinda hard to time
icy stump
You gotta learn it
But once you do its so fucking cool
Treat it like a roll replacement, cause you don't have as much evade window anymore
Now that that's cleared up
Let's go knock shaggy around
icy stump
Try and use redirection against shaggy to learn it, I'll try and keep your Hp up with lifepowders
It's so underrated
But so badass
rose bison
i forgot to check, can i use it if im charging my hammer
icy stump
Sadly no
rose bison
aw so its still the same kind of thing as the normal hammer parry
icy stump
But you know how you can roll cancel endlag on moves with rolls?
rose bison
yeah
icy stump
Scroll swap works the same way
icy stump
Once we get you the evade skills you can do both
rose bison
it fills the wirebug gauge a bit too
rose bison
pretty dang good
i think i noticed that when i first started going for silverath armor
and just forgot about it
got a cortex
2 actually but i only needed 1
icy stump
Nice
rose bison
i will always skip the quest complete cinematic
icy stump
You wanna grab the evade decos now, or after primalz
icy stump
Fey wyvern gem is from G rank bird wyverns
icy stump
Beast gem can be ripped from blood orange bishantien fairly easily
rose bison
i already have some anyways
icy stump
The key is multi monster quests
rose bison
for now im just gonna get evade extender cause its easier
we can get evade window later
for this i just need a bishaten glidefeather
icy stump
Two birds one stone
rose bison
it would be nice to have level 3 so maybe i should get the jumping 2 one too
which would mean zinogre shocker
rose bison
Two birds one stone
wdym
icy stump
If you get lucky on bishantien you can get the beast gem
rose bison
i already have one
icy stump
Wait what do you need for the evade window deco then?
rose bison
a glidefeather
i mean
thats for extender
for evade window i need a fey wyvern gem
icy stump
Oh I got bamboozled
Glidefeather+beast gem is leaping
Tobi fur+fey wyvern gem is evade window
rose bison
yeah i already have the fur though
icy stump
There's a quest for a izuchi/baggi/wrong in the arena we could blast through for the gem
Hbu after this we take a swing at that one
If we get the thing, hooray, if not, at worst it's a 5 minute ordeal
rose bison
i just dont want to
okay so turns out ive never fought a bishaten in master rank
i have no idea the best way to get the feather
icy stump
Wing