Tekken General

[reef geyser]

MY GIRL GOT GOD OF DESTRUCTION!!!!!!!!
I AM SO SO SO HAPPY FOR HER!!!!!!

(I'll get my Tekken God soon)

[wintry dagger]

I'm not ready to be traumatized again

So this is what protagonist privilege feels like...

[real field]

I know it's a petty thing but the fact one of his bnbs includes a move that intentionally whiffs irritates me every time

such a stupid pet peeve I know

what is with the two different times

I'm so ready

I'm so fucking ready

come on bamco be cool drop her tuesday

I know they won't but plz

[wintry dagger]

Id he okay with her dropping Tuesday because it means another patch drops with her

But damn im not looking forward to dealing with Kuni again

[real field]

I got great news for you

I'm either gonna go fucking feral learning her or I'm gonna only play for like a day or two and go back to hibernation

which means you either get to fight the version of me that actually learns a character for once

or you don't have to fight my kuni at all : )

[low summit]

how should i approach fighting alisa and victor ?

[wintry dagger]

Alisa players of all ranks love pressing and refuse to use her sidestep, which is a top 3 sidestep iirc.

SWL general if her chainsaws are out.

SWR in general to avoid almost all her neutral

[solid stirrup]

Fight their player irl/s

[wintry dagger]

Find some of Lee's moves that will float her out of the air too

[low summit]

aight bet

[wintry dagger]

@low summit two Alisa string every Alisa player will throw put like there's no tomorrow. 3,2 and B3+4, 3+4

3,2 is a mid, high heat engager. She has a mid option too but it's like -12ob. Duck and launch

[wintry dagger]

2nd string is B3+4, 3+4

Low crushing, launching mid thats +6ob

Gotta sw to either side then be ready to whiff punish

F3 kicks were the most consistent option i found but if you want style points...

Speedo not included

@low summit you'll have to figure out optimal routes from here and figure out how Lee deals with her Chainsaws

Oh and if Alisa doesn't do the 2nd hit of B3+4 she's -17

[low summit]

perfect thanks a bunch homie

[rigid mortar]

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[zinc condor]

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[solid stirrup]

Linkfix why'd you post it 3 times?

[rigid mortar]

first time showing off tekken stuff without harada, whats this going to be like

[winged karma]

im bout to diie

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[rigid mortar]

how can you boo? we learned new lore about her

[winged karma]

hyper mid

like soo mid that she herself will only bring shame to the manji clan

[real field]

lookin' fun lookin' cool

[solid stirrup]

https://youtu.be/ao8PakwFP5E

Idk why she's in an anime student council or why she has the evil version of Yoshitora's kit

[wintry dagger]

@stark salmon For real?? Kuni's a Phantom Thief?

[wintry dagger]

#1021482093072629861 message

I was close enough on the release date

[wintry dagger]

Nice to see the last character get revealed before Kuni drops ngl

[plucky sky]

Yoshitora??

If you're talking about Yoshimitsu, her mum was a Yoshi clone in Tekken 1

[solid stirrup]

Her rage art is her swinging a big ass sword with like 4 others next to her

So it was more "she has as many swords as Yoshitora"

[plucky sky]

No clue

OH SAMSHO GUY#

I used to own the new Samsho but never played it because there were 3 players online total

[solid stirrup]

Yeeeaaaah

Yeah Samsho has advanced Snk player base disease, I only really only know about it from looking if up for fun

Shouldn't have just assumed that he was a well know and beloved character because he had 7 swords

[plucky sky]

I think she has 9

[plucky sky]

When is a fighting game gonna get a benkei style character

Where it's 7 different weapons

Besides Sohei from For Honor

Though that's not really a fighting game? Kinda

[solid stirrup]

Wouldn't Noctis technically count?

[plucky sky]

He only has 5

Like 3 of them are swords too

[solid stirrup]

Ah damn

we need more arsenal bloat/s

[rigid mortar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/s/g2ChZlHsSY

[zinc condor]

https://vxreddit.com/r/Fighters/s/g2ChZlHsSY

[real field]

Makes me even more sad I had to drop my combo breaker plans ngl

[wintry dagger]

I gotta make CB plans lol. It's the start of my back to back mini vacations so I'll have time

[wintry dagger]

Launch Centurion turned For Honor into a fighting game

OP on launch, with Punches, kicks, cutscene combos and memes

[real field]

IIIIINCREDDIIIBILIS

[stark salmon]

no way, that’s real?!

https://tenor.com/view/persona-5-gif-9531669005278926942

[wintry dagger]

It's from her bio

Guess she's replacing Yusuke

[plucky sky]

Outside of Dominion, I don't think he was so bad to fight

Though his infinites were annoying

Actually self reflecting he's probably the strongest character to drop in the game

Though I think launch Conq is still stronger

I thought "He wasn't that bad" googled some clips and remembered, he truly was that bad

[wintry dagger]

Cent punched the Meta out the window when he launched so I'm personally leaning towards him

He was For Honor's launch Leroy

[plucky sky]

Imo, Conq was For Honor's T5 Steve

[real field]

How I do??

[real field]

Wdym evil version

[wintry dagger]

Type grid hubs tekken characters in to a search bar

Should pop up

[real field]

are you uh, sure

[wintry dagger]

Here's the link I used.

https://grids.fun/t/about-me-tekken-characters-sqyiu?list=tekken-8-characters-z8pej

You may have to remove all my choices

[real field]

ayyy thanks!

for "wish I could main" it could also have been reina, heihachi, eddie, hwoarang, king, raven, feng, steve, anna, leroy, fahkumram, jun, or multiple tekken 7 characters

[wintry dagger]

Whats stopping you from maining the non dlc characters?

[real field]

oh I own all the DLC

what's stopping me is that I'd have to put the time into them and not other characters.

Can't main 'em all, but can main armor king and try out new characters as they drop to see if I like any of them more than AK.

If I had infinite time, I'd learn most of the cast. Like 60% or so. But I don't.

.............also, making flowcharts has been HELLA useful for learning RPS points, pressure sequences, variations on how to do things and what to do into what else if it works, and it's hard to make those without direct help that is not Easy to get, as it were.

making a flowchart =/= flowcharting, if that makes any sense.

It just REALLY helps me to visualize for instance what AK's options are out of BAD.

the visual reminder makes it much easier to remember than just rote-drilling the options.

if I had a gun to my head and had to pick a different character I'd probably go Feng just because he seems like the highest fun-to-time-invested character on the list, on the lower-end of execution difficulty for me personally.

he's also second place for "fav character casually"

we do mid string frame trap chicken, shoulders, dumbass kick mix and play backsway roulette here

[solid stirrup]

They have the purple demon aura to them

[wintry dagger]

Classic main downplay

[reef geyser]

Nah
Lars sucks frfr

[wintry dagger]

Bottom 5

[reef geyser]

Mhm!

Exactly

I think so

[wintry dagger]

How... exactly would you better design Kaz?

[reef geyser]

Idk man, but I really hate how his whole gameplan is getting one knockdown into wavu wavu Hellsweep/50% dmg mid launcher

It feels too much like I'm just guessing most of the time
And like
He is one of the MUs I know the most, cuz my girl plays him as secondary
So he is prob one of the chars I play the most
And even knowing the MU, it just feels like pure guessing most of the time

The other Mishimas don't really feel like that
Ofc you gotta guess when they wavedash towards you, but that isn't the WHOLE gameplan yk?

Not to say it's EVERYTHING Kaz does, I have fought some who just fished REALLY hard for that Electric whiff punish

I just...
Idk, I don't like how it feels fighting Kaz compared to Reina and Heihachi
Maybe I would give Kaz better buttons instead of it just being 11 into the tracking launcher

[wintry dagger]

Welcome to non Tekken 8 Tekken lol

[wintry dagger]

About to call her 2nimitsu again

[stark salmon]

That’s Kazuya’s character design. Keep out with good pokes. A Kazuya player must use movement to align his moves. Pre-Tekken 7 Season 3 Kaz was Linear. Hellsweep did not track. He is strong but requires execution and game awareness

In the Stand-Slop 8, even though he has strong tracking and homing moves, Kazuya must not rush and time himself well.

[reef geyser]

I mean, that's cool
But I hate it
LMAO

I just don't think a fundamental character like him should feel like a cassino as much as he does
Guessing against Alisa is fine because she is supposed to be like that, I don't think Kaz should yk?

[reef geyser]

See, I agree with that
But it's not what happens
What happens is that they try to go in with Patricide Fist or smt, force a guess
Take a knockdown, force another guess
And that's the whole gameplan
And ofc there is counterplay to that, but it's just what happens 90% of the time
Specially in ranked

It's honestly more annoying than Reina forcing FF2 or the double mid Heihachi likes spamming

[stark salmon]

fuck Alisa. That's another day's topic.

[stark salmon]

you say "guess" a lot, but Tekken was never a guess game but movement and defense game. If you like, make some comparison between old Tekkens and 8. You would see my point.

I do not consider Tekken 8 as a Tekken game, but Guilty Gear. I was even joking in season 1 how this game feels quite similar to Strive.

[reef geyser]

Oh yeah for sure
I never played older Tekkens, T8 is my first

That said, this is how Kaz is nowadays and I don't like it
I wish he was like you described

[low summit]

alisa is corny

and carried

[stark salmon]

well, I practiced hard, and play against fundamentally better players than me to learn from them. In 7, I picked Asuka because i barely played her in the previous titles and she reminded me of Jun. I learned Ki charge setups, wall setups etc.

All patched and gone. They washed down the creativity and made every match in 8 almost same.

In Season 1 of tekken 8, I had Heat Dash Ki-Charge Setups. Unfortunately, it was patched....

[reef geyser]

Yup
That's so fucking sad tbh

[stark salmon]

The more I stare this game, the more i lose my passion to fighting games. I hope Sega and KT would hurt Tekken so hard.

[wintry dagger]

I hope DOA7 and VF6 at least make Tekken get their shit together

Because I have zero faith in DOA6 LR

[low summit]

i can’t wait to main rachel in DOA

[wintry dagger]

I mained Bayman and Rig so everyone catching these holds and kicks

Assuming they're both launch characters

[solid stirrup]

For the game series that's associated primarily with curvy anime women, I don't think they'd make the men most casuals forget about dlc

Although it is funny recognizing that almost all big name fighting games have caught up with DAO shy of customizable jiggle physics

[real field]

Hype to give doa a try NGL

Never played one

[wintry dagger]

Buy DOA5 Last Round. It's better than Doa6

[low summit]

i might look up some anna combos and learn her

[real field]

does it have, uh, netcode?

I don't really have much in the way of locals to play 🪦

wait

it's free?

what

JESUS WHAT

[wintry dagger]

There are A LOT of costume dlc

[wintry dagger]

Free version is core fighters. It gives you the full game but with only Hayabusa, Kasumi, Hayate and Ayane

[real field]

intriguing

maybe I'll fuck around in arcade mode or something

[wintry dagger]

That's not very Marvelous! of you

[low summit]

she will be a fun secondary

[wintry dagger]

At least it isn't Alisa

[low summit]

i would rather drown

[wintry dagger]

In chainsaws?

[low summit]

no i would rather drown in the potomac than play alisa

[plucky sky]

Tracking EWGF, one of the best 50/50 in the game, wallsplatting 112, 70% health on his 50/50s, laser cannon tracks and 2nd hit is safe

Tekken was never a guessing game except when Devil Jin was top tier in 5, Bob was top tier in 6, Akuma was top tier in 7 and so on

[plucky sky]

Look, I know you don't like T8 in the slighest

But stop being disingenuous about Tekken

There's always been a strong element of mixups

Heat mixups are overtuned as hell, yeah

But they've been getting nerfed

Reward on heat dash got nerfed massively and most heat mixup tools spend the entire bar from neutral activation heat

Characters pre 7 used to do upwards of 50% on a low mixup, and that's been nerfed a lot going into 8

Devil Jin does some of the lowest damage he's over done off of a low, hitting about 25% off of his lows

Sure, there's more big lows than there were in the past, but the big lows have generally gotten smaller

[low summit]

alright i’m ready to learn Anna

[stark salmon]

there is a DLC Unlocker for 6.

[real field]

a what

[stark salmon]

Heihachi and DJ were tops.

Koreans used DJ while Japanese players used Hei.

Some used Steve.

50/50s are president in any video game but “Not dominant”. Furthermore, mixes were “earned” and not free.

Those players were using movement to align their 50/50s with wavedash or movement.

Everything had a weakness that anyone could have expose.

In 8, Lidia, Alisa, Jun(Mia 1+2 + Sniper), Reina, Heihachi are all stand characters with strong MixUps and they do not have to “earn” because the mixes are free for them.

[stark salmon]

I never am. In fact, I support and will support anyone who wishes to play 8. However, I will criticize the game’s flaws with the most courteous words I can use.

[plucky sky]

What do you mean “they’re earned”

I’ll concede that heat dash gives you a good mixup with the plus frames, but outside of that?

You still gotta condition people to not press on your mixups

[plucky sky]

Stance, you mean?

Cause Reina and Heihachi stance mixups are OS’able most of the time

I think the only time Heihachi gets a true stance mixup is after a heat smash on block, a landed ss2 and a full charge b2

Actually you can OS a bunch of Lidia’s kit as well

[real field]

yeah, I haven't fully absorbed her changes this season but at least before the season patch the RPS was not really skewed in her favor if she's pressuring you, broadly speaking

[plucky sky]

And Lidia’s heaven and earth mix is fake unless she parries you, hits you with fff1 or 1+2

You can throw it or generic low it

[plucky sky]

The reason she was top tier recently (unsure this season) was the chip damage

[real field]

I was told (can't confirm) they weakened her overall but strengthened her mix a ton, which is like, the opposite of what I'd have wanted tbh

I REALLY liked having to make huge reads

[plucky sky]

Also all options in HAE can be beaten with SSR duck

[real field]

it's the only change this patch I can think of I wasn't a fan of

[plucky sky]

Unless she intentionally waits out your sidestep

[real field]

I'm so insanely hype for the kunimitsu patch

[plucky sky]

I mean a lot of her strong mix options cost HAE stocks now

So there’s some decision making in whether to spend it and lose some strong tools or such

[real field]

that's true!

I really want a true resource character I think that'd be really fun

like you start a round with 0 and have to build and spend from there, and have actual stocks. not single-charge stuff

i.e. asuka is not a resource character imo

[wintry dagger]

Biggest thing imo is they didn't nerf her heat at all in the last patch.

Shes still putting you on the 12 or however many seconds it is blender every round just by popping heat and doing any plus ob move into stance

[real field]

that's assuming she starts with HAE stacks, though, if you aren't falling for a hyper-specific string she can't get more than 2 stacks in a round and if she's at 0 it's REALLY not easy to get more than 1

[wintry dagger]

DVJ, Kaz and 90% of the cast now only get one, maybe two heat mixups. Lidia gets like 6

[real field]

like I probably come from an incredibly skewed perspective because I think strive ABA needs to be much more unstable a character, much more like +R aba

"I can activate the most hilariously, absurdly powerful install state in the series, but if I fuck up, it's an IK from almost the entire cast including characters who USUALLY can't get an IK"

I want extremely polarized designs like that to exist. not all the characters. not most the characters. 1 or 2 out of the cast.

the variety is something I adore about tekken and I know that's less extreme than in previous games, but I want them to tone it up.

I love that there is no equivalent to "get a hit into drive rush into two normals into a special into drive rush into the same two normals into the same special into drive rush into the same two normals into level 3"

there are flowcharty options, absolutely. there are none that work on every single character.

and if you get thrown a lot in tekken that is a massive skill issue

landing giant swing is satisfying because it is really hard to get it on people who are ready for it

and the fact crouching-only throws SEEM to be universally fuzzyable (I could be wrong) makes me really happy every time I land one

it is good for there to be friction in executing

the risk of failure makes the reward of success all the sweeter.

sorry I'm off on a wild tangent rn, sleep deprived lmao

[stark salmon]

Earned mixups are offensive situations created through superior positioning, frame advantages (plus frames), or successful, risky, and deliberate setup moves, forcing the opponent to guess between blocking low, mid, or standing

[stark salmon]

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FxTwitter · May 7, 2026, 12:08 PM

This is a tournament match, or i can share some of Farzeen’s matches

[plucky sky]

This is also 2-1, Lidia’s had plenty of time to condition

[stark salmon]

This is not conditioning but a pure guess. Fahk has a punch parry but Lidia has a guard break. There is no clear "weakness"

This is what I mean by "free mix"

[plucky sky]

You can step most of her options from this stance

Its RPS but thats just how all fighting games work

It’s how old Tekken work when you boil it down as well

[stark salmon]

Hold up.

Old tekkens do not work like that.

[plucky sky]

It does

Every interaction in a fighting game is RPS

[stark salmon]

https://fxtwitter.com/pbeef2spicy/status/2039708164862423494 - A Tekken 5 Match

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[plucky sky]

A very simple example of RPS in old Tekken for example, I’ll use T3

You can backdash to create space

[stark salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSULdPTokKs - A tekken tag 2 match.

[plucky sky]

Jin can do WR3

And Jin can do laser cannon

And you can sidestep

Backdashing beats cannon, but loses to WR3

[stark salmon]

I'm not talking about mindgames.

[plucky sky]

Sidestep beats WR3 but loses to cannon

That’s not mind games that’s RPS

That’s how fighting games work as a whole

[stark salmon]

you are describing Mindgames. I'm talking about stances.

[plucky sky]

Sure but stances are also RPS

[stark salmon]

and it creates "free mixes"

[plucky sky]

Except you can OS Lidia’s stances

There’s interaction

You can step then duck them and she has to call that option out

You can’t show me game 3 and go “look at what Lidia does for free”

I can do the same with I-No in guilty gear

They’re both characters that have to condition the opponent

[stark salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os-BvW6VJp4

I can list 30 games of Farzeen with Lidia.

[stark salmon]

you cannot compare a 3d fighting game with a 2.5D

[plucky sky]

Guilty Gear is not 2.5D

[stark salmon]

You said RPS a lot. Virtua Fighter is RPS.

[plucky sky]

It’s 2D

JoJo ASBR is a 2.5D fighting game

[stark salmon]

Ok mb, but it is not a 3D game.

[plucky sky]

So what?

They’re both conditioning based characters

[stark salmon]

So comparing Tekken with GG should not be done.

[plucky sky]

You can compare fighting games

[stark salmon]

Tekken with other 3D games like Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, and DoA.

[plucky sky]

Except non of those player similar besides being 3D, the majority of fighting game don’t

[stark salmon]

but they are 3D games but lets stay in the topic.

[plucky sky]

I’m talking about conditioning

[stark salmon]

In every freaking FG has conditioning mate. Again, it is part of "mindgame."

[plucky sky]

Lidia has to call out sidesteps with specific options, and if she doesn’t threaten the homing options, realistically she can’t go for the big mix

Yes

This isn’t free mix, you can step it

The risk reward is generally not very favourable

[stark salmon]

it is a guess by the end of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_2Jg0iop0&list=PLfC_E4xM80IAWWfmTmCnaF53olK8gNrBs&index=6

Watch this please.

[plucky sky]

Okay that’s T7? A game notorious for nerfing sidestep after the snoozefest that was TTT2 competitively

[stark salmon]

and in 8, Bandai Namco escalated this situation. Launch Leroy and Fahk were the teasers of this situation. Even kunimitsu.

[plucky sky]

They buffed sidestep and allowed you to buffer it in T8

[stark salmon]

but moves' tracking properties are also buffed. Leroy, for instance, is a menace despite of him being a weak character.

[plucky sky]

You can step most (if not all?) stance jabs when you’re -4

[stark salmon]

Leroy's?

[plucky sky]

Don’t know off of the top of my head

I don’t think Hermit 2 tracks though

[stark salmon]

His machine gun punches is a great example.

Victor has great tracking moves as well that even Lili cannot step.

Nina too

[plucky sky]

Which one?

[stark salmon]

https://youtu.be/mAGIbf5yKtQ?si=LbDDBsrt4-FLVgMB

[plucky sky]

Okay yeah, that’s fair the second hit does realign itself really fucking weird

But also

You can just punish him before the second hit with a second walk launch

[plucky sky]

This got fixed with the sidestep buffer

[stark salmon]

unfortunately not. Moves like Victor's still track. Another example, King's df2,1

[plucky sky]

You can sidestep kings fd2, 1 to the right

[stark salmon]

it tracks hard. Unlike in 7

[plucky sky]

I’m pretty sure it tracked left in 7 as well

[stark salmon]

no, it never did in the previous titles. Snake and I checked it.

[plucky sky]

Point blank it has some tracking to the left

Also you can step both directions from a further out df2 in T8

Ehh

I can't check, so I'll take your word that it has no tracking in 7 then

Uninstalled T7

[stark salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBll-DOR7hg

[plucky sky]

I don't see where he talks about df2

Oh wait never mind

Yeah it got nerfed tracking he's complaining about that and then adding tracking to df3

So yeah

df2 tracking got nerfed this patch and this video even says that

Apparently df3 tracked right already but they made it more consistent this patch (though Lili can still step it)

Anyway, anyone know if we're getting a balance patch with Kuni drop?

[stark salmon]

we are

[plucky sky]

Hope we get more heat nerfs with it

Imo, only things that should regen heat are Lee's taunt and Azu's dance

That's one complaint I have about this

[wintry dagger]

Leroy's parries too

[plucky sky]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-cat-gif-3515289516142338077

[wintry dagger]

[plucky sky]

Leroy's heat effect is perfect parries on non perfect parries yeah?

[wintry dagger]

Auto perfect parries in heat? I wish lol

[plucky sky]

What does it do then?

Cause wavu says they get powered up

Is it just like

Extra damage on both versions?

[wintry dagger]

I think its just the punches after a B2 parry do chip ob

[plucky sky]

Leroy is one of the characters I'm least familiar with

[wintry dagger]

I'm loading the game now to check

[wintry dagger]

Heat B2 machine gun punches do 11 chip damage ob and 3 extra damage on normal hit

[plucky sky]

Ah okay

[wintry dagger]

Biggest threat Leroy has in heat is B1+2

[plucky sky]

Parry and engager, yeah?

[wintry dagger]

The parries don't change in heat and he lost two of his heat launchers but they had terrible scaling so it isn't that big a hit imo

[real field]

I like that ak crouch throw regens it

Feels extremely earned

And ak doesn't get ten million buffs from heat

Crouch throw is a fuck to land ngl feels like the most accidental fuzzy of all time

Feels bad whiffing that through someone's crouching face

Does mean when I land it I earned it

[wintry dagger]

As long as Lars losing his heat regen just by fucking spinning I'll be happy

[low summit]

agreed

fuck lars

[real field]

the undefeatable tech

[stark salmon]

stop accepting wifi

[wintry dagger]

Got tired of waiting lol. Also that clips a perfect example of Leroy's tracking

[stark salmon]

let me add another one then

[wintry dagger]

360 heat engager is clearly Murray's vision

[real field]

what's asuka's best while standing punish?

in a set can't look it up no time

[wintry dagger]

1,4 into that guaranteed mid kick that gives the instal

[wintry dagger]

@real field try this next time you fight Xiaoyu

[real field]

God I want Eliza in this game

[real field]

LMFAOOOO

[real field]

every time I study reina again I feel like I break through more and more walls

I bounced off i-no 6 times before she stuck, y'know, at this rate I'm under par if it only takes me one more with reina

[real field]

From Lidia I learned how fake mix can be and how to do a ff input

From Victor (both of these with rogue's guidance 100% ftr) I finally truly understood how to begin factoring rps off of repetitive offensive situations

Both helpful with reina!

[real field]

Why didn't I remember that Reina has a 2 break command throw

I'm gonna make a chart of how Reina mix works off each stance

[real field]

@plucky sky if you can offer any insights into wtf is going on with sentai stance and whether or not I'm completely off base with my conclusions about her other stances and, her general gameplan, their options, etc., I'd greatly appreciate it.

also if you have advice on getting into HAE consistently that'd be sick, uf1 seems like the closest to a reliable option but people keep backdashing me :(

[plucky sky]

HAE?

Oh WRA

When I’m on my PC I’ll check it

[real field]

much appreciated! It's a lot but any amount of overview is helpful

I'm struggling real bad to wrap my head around sentai at this point

why does it seem like SOMETIMES you can act immediately out of a transition into sentai but SOMETIMES there's a delay to it?

[real field]

I forgot it's HAE on heihachi oops

lmfaoooooooo

making another pass at it, will reupload when done

[plucky sky]

RAI

HAE is Lidia

[real field]

TRUE!

I'm so good at remembering things, I'm SO good

[plucky sky]

Sentai more of a pressure stance than mixups iirc

[real field]

HAE or WRA?

[plucky sky]

Sentai

The mixups aren't very rewaring iirc

[real field]

O

[plucky sky]

It's 20 damage max for a low/throw

22 damage*

[wintry dagger]

@real field pretty sure Reina's like F23 or df42 string can also be canceled into Heavens Wrath

[plucky sky]

No

df4,2 does

But f2,3 goes into sentai if you hold forward

[wintry dagger]

Knew it was one of them lol

[real field]

oh another question! with how easily this character breaks walls, what's my best "uhhh shit they're wallsplatted, PRESS THIS!" option?

[real field]

HYPE TYTY

[plucky sky]

b4 usually

I think anyway

There's probably a resplat on low recovery splats

[wintry dagger]

WR4 does too

[real field]

wait does what

[plucky sky]

Transitions to WRA

[real field]

OH WHILE RISING LMFAO

I sat here scratching my head over how to transition WRA4 I misread LMAO

[plucky sky]

While running

WS is while standing

[real field]

oh

well!

WS 4, 4 (down) also does!

[plucky sky]

I don't think Reina really has a mixup stance

[real field]

huh!

[plucky sky]

They're all pressure stances

[real field]

My ignorance is showing, then

what's the difference?

[plucky sky]

In heat she gets the pseudo heat smash in WRA

Generally the options from WRA are potentially stronger

[real field]

no like what's the difference between a mixup stance and a pressure stance

like is it not pressure to threaten mix?

is it not mix to force them to try to press out with ambiguous gaps?

Just beat a Kishin Kazuya on Reina

Holy shit

[wintry dagger]

@real field you still playing? I'm free if you are

[real field]

I only got like 15 more min 😭

[wintry dagger]

No worries. Just finished up cleaning up around the apartment lol

[real field]

good set to end off on for now; sent a Kijin heihachi back down to fujin

I lied I did one more and beat a leo so bad they turned on special inputs and lost worse

raijin heihachi, rather

[wintry dagger]

These Ghosts learn too fast

[real field]

https://youtu.be/t6cSiwbhKvg

[real field]

the more I think about reina the more I think it's like she's "dial-a-string": the character

the options out of sentai are so fast that they're essentially a variable string extension off anything that goes into sentai

which means practicing chunks of moves and then practicing how they flow together, rather than rigid, rote lists

I'm seeing why so many reinas I've fought have dogshit defense

it's a lot to think about, playing this character

[real field]

https://youtu.be/vO89Hw1uk78

[real field]

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

I have discovered, in trying a ton of the cast, some things about myself and my tastes

• I like having strong options for dealing with irritating lows and highs
• I like having an effective, easy-to-access tracking move
• I LOVE PARRIES, but more than anything I LOOOOVE sabakis. Interrupting pressure strings is SO fucking fun.
• I REALLY like backsway.
• I like playing spacing
• I LOVE throw mix
• I like jab pressure
• I like SOME stance-based stuff and MIGHT really like getting heavy into stances but it requires a huge commitment for me to learn. (Big fan of Lidia's, less-big-but-still-decently-big fan of Raven's. Reina's is A LOT. Hwoarang's is WAY too much for me.)
• Character movement speed doesn't matter, but obviously it's nicer to have more of it than less
• I need big flashy moves.
• Combo structure is a slight preference for patterns that "feel" fun (things like a 3, 2 -> 2, 3 please my autism)
• I need to like the character visually as a design/personality.
• I am particular about voice lines/"barks" that irritate me, which seemingly have no consistent trend to them.
• I really, really like low-crushing, especially with a stance. I cannot stress this enough. That's why it's basically both the first and last point on this list.

• I don't have a preference for what buttons get used, punch vs. kick etc., but much prefer when there aren't "dead" buttons (like how steve /basically/ doesn't use kick compared to his punching)
• with regards to inputs I much prefer sequential difficulty to rhythm difficulty (i.e. I much prefer the feel of doing king's RDC chain throw to the finicky-feeling timing of Steve combos)
• LOVE frame trapping with delayed strings that let me force a guess on whether to press or not and playing mind games around that.

[real field]

also @plucky sky I forgot if I told you but you were 1000% correct I knew fuck-all about asuka

my plan is that when Kunimitsu drops I'm giving everything I have to try to make sure I have a comprehensive knowledge of whether or not I like playing her and if I do I'm solo maining for the next several months at least and if I don't I'm picking ONE character. haven't uh. decided WHICH one. hoping I won't have to.

[plucky sky]

Huh?

No I said I know fuck all about Asuka

I want to learn her

[real field]

I swear it was you like 8 months ago who when I was saying "I don't wanna play asuka because she doesn't have X" you went "What?"

and then proceeded to explain she did in fact have X, what am I talking about

[plucky sky]

Ohhh

Yeah

[real field]

I forgot to acknowledge you were right but you absolutely were!

also why didn't I know you can do up-input moves during while standing frames

victor u1, 1 goes so fucking hard as a "how fucking dare you try to hit me with a low you asshole"

also going to post this screenshot with @cloud yoke here to save effort and get back to skyrim modding faster

[plucky sky]

Was it about the sabaki I think?

[real field]

It was me complaining she has no cool way to cash out and you went "what are you talking about" and did one of the sicker combos I've ever seen in my life

which was probably not terribly mechanically complex but wowed me in the moment

Asuka flings people around like slayer. my god

[plucky sky]

Ohhh yeah

She lost it a bit with the heat nerfs

She’s still got cool options

[real field]

that mid where she flings herself at you like her fist was flung out of a trebuchet but on whiff she's minus ten billion and almost falls over is such a sick move

I adore it so much

I have what might be a stupid question

why does it feel sometimes like a 13f move is a challenge to land but I have a really high success rate with like, 15f or 16f moves

reina uf1 feels impossible to land for me and I don't know why that is when I can do victor u1 with massive success, or go into raw SEN3 on reina and have massive success

it feels like 10f is (naturally) easy to get out, and slowass moves are easy to hit with, but moves in the middle ground tend to eat shit and die for me

[plucky sky]

Conditioning

Generally you want to be doing Reina’s df1 as your 13f instead

It’s a mid with a beefier hitbox

[real field]

you know, I bet the hitbox is part of it, too

[wintry dagger]

Leroy checks like over half of these bullet points

@real field

[real field]

it's true! I REALLY like Leroy. He's on the short list for sure if Kunimitsu is a flop for me.

right now it's Leroy, Reina (my "coward" choice for a mishima), Heihachi (my "I am okay with losing for 300 hours" choice for a mishima), Victor, or Jun/Asuka once I decide if not being able to hold parry is worth auto-parrying throws from a stance

I like so much of this cast so much I have to like get REALLY hair-splitty or I'll talk myself in circles and never get anywhere lmao

also Leroy has some of my favorite voice barks in the game

DEFENSE!

heihachi intimidates me. I can now hit electrics about 15% of the time, which is nice, but I can't even consistently wavedash left-facing. fingers HATE it. need to practice it but it's physically draining on my hand.

[wintry dagger]

Goated at smacking Xiaoyu, Zafina and others out of low profiling moves,
low evasive db3
Has dog
parries for days
drip
jab pressure with a 12 frame ch mid
Has dog
One stance that's easy to learn
B3 and B4 for easy homing

[real field]

I KNOW it won't be so bad once I have it down, I went through the exact same thing doing right-facing wavedash, but ughhhh

[real field]

and his combo structure is REALLY fun

ending in uh. What's it, the cutscene kick

is really cool

b4?

b3+4?

[wintry dagger]

B3+4

[real field]

yes!

[wintry dagger]

His steel pedal

That isn't even the optimal ender either.

[real field]

I also LOVE how his parries feel, and that sabaki that lets you tell people to fuck themselves on their heat engage is SO GAS

I like his movement, I like the machine gun punch stuff

there's basically nothing about the character I don't like

the thing is just like

do I like other characters even more? maybe! this game is packed with characters I am enamored with tbh

it has been an important journey of self discovery to realize I love king and AK both but do not want to main them because their combo structure feels miserable to me

dropping them from the list was incredibly hard.

😭

the saddest part is I hit blue spark on giant swing like 80% consistent now LMFAO

like I got REALLY GOOD at it

[wintry dagger]

You can always rotate your characters too. Like right now I'm on a Steve binge

But I whipped out Leroy against a shit talking Xiaoyu in lounge the other day

[real field]

I want to learn how to actually play this game and stop "touristing" (for lack of a better work) before I do that

when I have a character I feel like I REALLY know, when I REALLY feel like I ACTUALLY fully understand everything I'm doing, when shit is down to muscle memory and not erratic guesses and I'm not struggling to keep everything straight, then I will branch out again

because as funny as it is to be told this I need actual, uh, gameplay,

LMFAO

[wintry dagger]

Any character will teach you some basics of Tekken.

Focus on one aspect you want to learn and pick the right character.

Like if you want to learn how game changing sidestepping and walking is, play Lili

If you want to learn anti strings learn Leroy and try B2 parry strings to find out what jails and what isnt

[wintry dagger]

That universal to the whole cast. Except Jack

[real field]

I did it with asuka's -1 jab

and it worked

I was getting my shit rocked by people because I was doing a real bad job of defending lows and even when I did I was getting shit-all out of it because I didn't know how to get any reward out of it

[plucky sky]

Jack doesn’t need it tbf

[real field]

then rogue showed me victor, taught me one combo, and I landed a wr1 on a Lee who was being a twat, did a shitton of damage off it and went "Oh. Oh THIS. THIS is what I COULD have been doing this entire time."

[plucky sky]

Wait +1 not 10f

Jack has both of those things

Jack jab is on his 2 not his 1

Sure it’s 11f but it’s also the longest jab the in game

[wintry dagger]

Jack also doesn't need db1 either imo

Personally hate that damn string

[plucky sky]

He needs it

[wintry dagger]

Should be a special low that can be stand blocked

[plucky sky]

It's his only good low

His other lows are either reactable or

[real field]

does that say

minus. SEVENTY?

[wintry dagger]

True but the Cossack Kicks are his most iconic low

[plucky sky]

Okay, okay

But

They're bad

[wintry dagger]

Some moves are bad, but you still do them to troll or knowledge check

[plucky sky]

I'm glad they haven't given Jack another good low

His 2 (3?) are enough

[wintry dagger]

TIL Jack has a 13 frame "shoulder" move that's called Dump Truck

[plucky sky]

I love df3+4

[real field]

the fact his s2 launch busted move was called Make Some Noise is so fucking funny

[spice jay]

started the session at mighty ruler

[wintry dagger]

https://x.com/i/status/2054217124894421224

[zinc condor]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2054217124894421224

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[solid stirrup]

All the pictures on the sites main page are of an empty office building lol

[real field]

worst timeline

literally worst possible company he could've ended up with

I'd have taken WB games over SNK

[solid stirrup]

Why didn't you just go to Virtua Fighter like you always wanted

Sonic money spends just as good as Saudi money

Better, I would argue

[real field]

it leaves less of a residue on your skin, for sure

[real field]

https://youtu.be/4IYZu1cvWNw

kishin kazuya btw

I started just doing f1+2 on every one of his wakeups because he only ever rolled linear on wakeup, so why not take free chip and plus frames

5 games he never did any other wakeup option. insanity

[solid stirrup]

Virtual Insanity

I could have sworn there was a gif of Kazuya doing the meme, rip

[real field]

trying to decide if I like jun more than asuka or not

[solid stirrup]

Either laser beams or giant fists

[spice jay]

ass sucka cooler

[real field]

is it normal to need a ton of different bespoke combos for various kinds of launches and victor is just ez mode or is it a jun thing where she needs like 4 different combos ready to go

df2/f2 =/= ch can cans/ws3 =/= sabaki =/= d1+2

I can FEEL my RPS balance as a player becoming dogshit when I can take 68 life with a mid but can't get reward off blocking a low to save my life LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-oNFeSaM0A

[wintry dagger]

Every single one if these moves launches slightly higher or lower than the other so yes. You need different routes based off which launcher.

Like off a F2 launch I tried B2,4 but it kept whiffing. Should have used F4 first

And it isn't a Jun exclusive thing either.

[stark salmon]

Add 4 if you like to be consistent.

However, I like to do x2 MIA1+2 because it fills the install hella fast.

[wintry dagger]

[stark salmon]

Instead of memorizing 4 routes, build a simple route and modify it for situations.

I have a favourite route but i cannot use it because it does not fit to all situations.

[wintry dagger]

Its also a good idea to have a McDonald's wifi combo route too.

Something simple that can still be done if the connection suddenly drops

[real field]

This shit complicated!

I was going between Asuka and jun a bit and managed to achieve that on Asuka tho

68-76 damage depending on launcher plus NWG stack

[real field]

@wintry dagger I remember when you were teaching me leroy you started showing me a combo and then made it MUCH simpler because I was taking forever trying to learn something simple so you gave me

uf+4, d3, 2 - hermit 2,3 - uf3+4, 1+2

which I can do consistently now!

is there a better cashout option that works on uf+4 and also a wr launcher?

my priority on every character right now is having a standing combo that also works off a WR if at all possible, because even if it's worse, the most infuriating feeling has been blocking a snake edge and then getting 25 damage

[real field]

b2, 4? on jun???

https://youtu.be/lBKgMz35OX4

[wintry dagger]

I got the input mixed up. B4,2

[wintry dagger]

The "optimal" Leroy route after an orbital or wr2 is qcf2> 2,2> F3,1+2,4 either ff3 or hrm 1,2 for a SAT then the route splits based off the wall, distance, and other factors

The 2,2 drops randomly if the opponent is even a hair off axis, so I've personally dropped that specific combo route

[real field]

fair! I'm more looking for consistency if there's something that does more than 62 damage and is still consistent

I'll get into fancier situational shit when I lock in on one character

I also figured out how to do sidestep moves finally and what I was doing wrong

I always did sidesteps as double-tap inputs but sidestep moves are a single tap

also apparently sidesteps are as well

go figure

jun sidestep 4 is ridic

casually plus with a slightly evasive heat engaging mid? thanks!

it's hard for me to pick asuka vs jun tbh

asuka I really like how it feels to hit people on her a whole lot, like a lot a lot, whereas Jun it is Great but not like phenomenal like it is to sling people around like a sack of potatoes on asuka

but asuka doesn't seem to have anything that feels quite as good to me as fighting someone who will not stop doing lows and simply pressing f3+4 and letting them kill themselves

asuka I found a way to get 68-80 damage (based on if I have naniwa) that works off EVERYTHING. can can counterhit. df2, f2, b4 counter, any crumple, any launcher.

I got there by pastiching a can can combo with a df2 combo, but I've been struggling to find an equivalent on jun

the one jun combo I have down is nice and all and 21 kazama coin is nice and all but it's not nearly as much damage and it's only off df2 or f2

her combo structure is more complex making her harder for me to improvise on

the stance things are wild

that said I fucking LOVE ending in that cutscene that's uh. I forget the stance name, the f3+4 one, into 2

that shit feels great

so really for me it just becomes "how can I get there in as roundabout way as possible" lmao

dollie sent me a video of season 3 combos but they're season 3-exclusive combos so they all use her new move and are very, uh. strange. and it seems like they're not great payout compared to the s2 combos I was practicing

also asuka u1+2 is one of my favorite moves in the game and that simple route uses it with NWG to get 80+ damage and a guaranteed f3+4 to repeat it

[real field]

I just realized I forgot to post it

basic combo:
off of: df+2 | f+2 | WS3 | CH d+3+4 | CH df+(1),4 | CH WS1+2

ff+2, 3 -> db 1,4 t! -> ff2, 1+2
with naniwagusto, after t!, do u1+2, f3+4 instead if not near wall or for floor break do it every time.

[prisma fjord]

yo anyone got any tips to do Lee's like mist steps cancel into WS 2 3 after B2 F?

[wintry dagger]

@low summit might be able to help.

[low summit]

like in a block string or combo ?

[prisma fjord]

Lỉke during combo after B2 into mist step

[prisma fjord]

like I can do Lee's b2 loop consistently 3 to 4 times

but couldnt get the hang of doing WS1 2 or WS2 3 after doing a B2 into mist steps

[low summit]

i think you back away first from the mist step into a small crouch before doing it

[plucky sky]

Basically do mist step forward, then cancel it into mist step back and let go

There's a small window where lee is considered crouching

So just press 2 3

I'll record my inputs later

[hidden ember]

Back to Assailiant

https://www.twitch.tv/emmiekatelyn

[hidden ember]

@wintry dagger @real field 👀👀

[hidden ember]

That match took 9mins and 12secs

https://youtu.be/O0KRsIK07Vw?si=ZK9KiT6vd1ILae9t

[real field]

HYPE

[hidden ember]

Currently @wintry dagger @real field 👀

[wintry dagger]

[prisma fjord]

bruh how did I manage to do that?

Highest and Lowest winrate against Bryan

[real field]

?????

Where are you even getting that from LMAO

[prisma fjord]

From a website I don't even remember what it call

If you search Tekken 8 stats report

It should be the first result of that search

[wintry dagger]

Probably ewgf.gg

ewgf.gg - TEKKEN 8 Statistics https://share.google/OKhNLpHxxfNLFam6G

[hidden ember]

Streaming T8 https://www.twitch.tv/emmiekatelyn

[real field]

10 days!

[hidden ember]

Streaming T8 https://www.twitch.tv/emmiekatelyn

[wintry dagger]

10 days until PTSD

Hold up its actually 8 days

[real field]

IS IT?!?!?

[real field]

Everyone said that about fahkumram

[wintry dagger]

They never kneecapped Kuni. Unlike Fahk and Leroy

[real field]

Yeah, and aren't both fahk and Leroy in this game actually well designed characters, is that not the consensus in as much as anyone allows themselves to give this game anything

Not kneecapped

[wintry dagger]

She drops in early access in 9 days

[real field]

I thought it was the 29th!

a whole day sooner than I thought :D

[wintry dagger]

They extended early access so maybe she drops on the 29th for non season pass

6/2 for non early access

[real field]

I'm on season pass

that's so hype

[wintry dagger]

5/28

Last character gets shown this weekend

[real field]

I am on the edge of my seat til sunday dude I HAVE to know this 4th character

[wintry dagger]

That's what I'm waiting for

[real field]

I need to know if I spent season pass money for 1 character plus 3 lab dummies or not LMAO

[wintry dagger]

That's why I haven't bought it yet lol

[real field]

if 4th character really interests me that's even better because that gives me like 8 months to get kuni down, plenty of time to 'earn' a secondary, no?

[wintry dagger]

You'd think since it's combo breaker the last character would be either a guest from a different fg or a brand new character

[real field]

I mean it said

• NEW CHARACTER

on the thing, yeah?

misremembered

that was last season for miary zo

it won't be eliza but man just let me play a vampire god damn

[wintry dagger]

Embrace the dandiness and play Slayer. Or Nago

[real field]

I did! For two years!

And now they've completely fucked up Strive

there's no longer any reason for me to play strive

I appreciate arcsys telling me it's okay to play other fighting games

it was very considerate of them

I just wish I'd waited to hear them say it before getting the pass. smh

at this point even if they add gabriel it'll be a struggle to give a shit

and I've been fiending for that dude for like 8 years now

ngl I thought the tekken 8 season 2 situation was worst case but it turns out the worst case is when that happens and your entire community loudly praises the devs for it, guaranteeing that good never returns to the world

big yikes

hell I'd take a soul calibur 6 over this because maybe in six years we'll get a new soul calibur and it could be good

with strive 2.0 being a massive leap in the wrong direction AND them getting overwhelming praise for it, it's over. This is a type of dead I never knew could happen.

so anyway

give me a vampire, tekken, pl0x

[plucky sky]

I think either a newcomer or a crossover would be neat

[real field]

I'd much prefer a newcomer to a crossover personally but I suspect it'll be a crossover

any series' with a new game coming out this year or early next year?

[wintry dagger]

I'm hoping for a DOA character

Hayabusa or Kasumi

Or Kazumi Mishima

[low summit]

hoping for terry or rock howard

[solid stirrup]

I was thinking they should probably get around to adding their first Pakistani character, and then thought it would be really funny if there was an alt skin for Nina where it was Arslan in Nina cosplay

Though don't get me wrong, a legit Pakistani character would be dope

[real field]

it'd be cool to add a silat character tbh

[hidden ember]

@real field @wintry dagger 👀

[wintry dagger]

[hidden ember]

https://www.twitch.tv/emmiekatelyn

[wintry dagger]

@stark salmon you see the new ||VF6 leak?||

Armor King isn't the only character copying moves from Will Ospreay

[prisma fjord]

yeah I guess I'm just stupid I simply cannot do it

[plucky sky]

Record you doing it

With inputs

We can point out if you’re too slow with the inputs or too quick

[hidden ember]

Welp i got demoted to destoyer.

Yesterday. Fun.

Im def at a skill wall when i started versing gyru players in ranked. They are waaay better than me in skill.

[wintry dagger]

https://youtu.be/nCyl-4CMFPw?si=2QQHIYIav_xxsi3c

@real field

[plucky sky]

Content

Ripped from the hands of Tekken creators

[wintry dagger]

They'll still make reaction videos

Hell, Moonsault's probably halfway through making a 12 minute "reaction" video while Phidx is doing a 45 minute legit analysis

[plucky sky]

I hate moonsault

[wintry dagger]

I played against him early in S3

Won 2-1 with Jun.

Just another Yoshi. Non adapting and flowchart only

No idea how to play when the opponent knew the match up

Bro was on wifi too

Okay. Rant over

[wintry dagger]

Time to expand your Tekken knowledge. Break any current habits and flow charts and replace them with easy to execute, semi optimal moves and combos

[plucky sky]

She still has QCF1

Neat

[wintry dagger]

Favorite part about that trailer is the fact Kuni is playing with the new 3.02 heat nerfs

[stark salmon]

He is ass. No adaptation, no strategy, nothing….

[real field]

I don't even have to wait for the weekend I'm so happy

Thank you

[real field]

whoa this is a FOR REAL video that's CRAZY

[real field]

oh my god she has a cutscene ender I LOOOOOOOOVE those...........

they gave her mai level 1 as an armored move LMAO

[wintry dagger]

Yes Ryuji, For real

[real field]

they haven't done anything on this scale before right??? this looks like something I'd see a fan make but with a very slightly higher production value

[wintry dagger]

IGN has some dlc character specific starter guides

[real field]

yeah but that's IGN, not like, the tekken youtube channel

I wonder if they're doing it specifically to try to get ahead of people who will inevitably play 30 seconds of the character and go "look how busted she is" like they did with fahk lmao

that shit was so funny

[wintry dagger]

I trust absolutely nothing Murray says about Balancing

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/x4mTLwbkVF

[zinc condor]

https://vxreddit.com/r/Tekken/s/x4mTLwbkVF

[real field]

"Fahkumram is a muay thai fighter and he's weak to sidestepping the correct direction. He's got cool tattoos, and is weak to sidestepping the correct direction. His long range and ability to keep the opponent out and fish for counterhits is very strong, but his best moves are VERY linear, and weak to sidestepping the correct direction. Also at close range his options aren't the best. Also, did you know if you sidestep correctly he's extremely open to being punished?"

"You should try sidestepping and then performing a launcher, when fighting Fahkumram,"

[real field]

I mean what I'm seeing in this video is damage that looks relatively tame, yeah

though that df2 in the video looks like its range is, as they say, bogus

not that it's insanely far for a df2 but that it REALLY looks like it whiffs when it hits reina there LMAO

[plucky sky]

I mean I'm fine with her space control

I just hope her mixups are generally bad like they were in 7, unless she was in FC or backturn

[plucky sky]

Learning Reina

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[real field]

looks like the idea with kunimitsu is to play at max range or point blank and minimize time spent between the two?

[real field]

how's it going?

[plucky sky]

Cable broke

[hidden ember]

@wintry dagger btw what rank do you think my potential is at? Some people are saying mighty ruler and higher. Even some said this yesterday lol (in the image im sending)

In ranked i can hardly do shit.

[wintry dagger]

What rank I personally think you'll play your best Tekken at doesn't really matter.

It's a you decision on what rank you want to achieve based on your current skill set to see how far that will initially take you and how much time you have to improve when you run into the inevitable brick wall.

For example If you're determined to hit Garyu than retire, you won't have to add much to your repertoire. Some more King throws, a Hopkick combo and basic whiff punishing and defense and you're set

But if you want to learn long term, surpass Garyu andplay non casual Tekken for years to come. And also not be screwed over whenever Tekken 9 drops without Heat (assuming)

You'd have to relearn the basics

[hidden ember]

True yea

[real field]

Damn that kazuya and his underhanded schemes!!!

[wintry dagger]

Any idea why you struggle in ranked? Have you watched your own replays? Or practiced against characters that you struggle against?

[real field]

Oh wise 100 dan master will you evaluate my kunimitsu a few days in and help me make sure I am correct and do in fact know the difference between thought and chart

[hidden ember]

From my knowledge wise its skill gap is the issue

[wintry dagger]

Why must you remind me Kuni drops next week lol

Im trying to enjoy what little time left she isn't in the game

[real field]

She'll be fine

[stark salmon]

Imma play her for fun 😭😂😂

[wintry dagger]

And do you plan on closing the skill gap? Or continue playing as you currently are

[stark salmon]

Terrorize ranked

[hidden ember]

Closing it

[wintry dagger]

Honesty Roger is my future rank terrorizing character

And by terrorizing I mean trolling

[stark salmon]

once the new generation understands how that fucker is worse than Marduk, they will want Marduk.

Roger is hella worse. Hella worse

[wintry dagger]

I still want Marduk though

And Julia. And Christie

Especially christie

[stark salmon]

Wavedash - Throw Mixes - Steve - A little bit Heihachi

[wintry dagger]

The first step in closing that gap is watching your losses and learning how to slowly improve. Don't worry too much about ducking high attacks right now or stepping. Block punishment is the easiest option imo

but for example if you block a hellsweep and don't launch it. Or block and don't punish a hopkick start with those.

[real field]

Oh he has throw mix you say

[wintry dagger]

HE HAS GIANT FUCKING SWING

@stark salmon Roger. Homing. Giant Swing ...

Mother of God

[wintry dagger]

But to answer your first questions sure. We'll play sometime when Kuni drops

[wintry dagger]

I wonder how many of Kuni's airborne move I can parry as Leroy...

[hidden ember]

Alright

[real field]

is the answer not going to be "all of them"?!

[real field]

okay maybe I'm more excited for roger than I thought I was

[real field]

as someone who is also fairly new, I just wanted to say, the most helpful realization I had came from switching between a couple characters to see what things are important on each.

learning how to actually punish a crumpled low is so fucking amazing

[wintry dagger]

It probably will be ngl

[real field]

the difference between "this motherfucker keeps doing snake edges and I keep getting launched" VS "I keep blocking snake edges and get nothing for it" is smaller than the difference between "I keep blocking snake edges and get nothing for it" and "I block the snake edge, I launch"

the majority of my growth to date with tekken came from giving up on trying to run whack-ass mix and instead look for ways to fuck with my opponent, and playing to keep them back instead of purely running at each other playing the 50/50 game. I intentionally spent about two weeks focusing entirely on basically only pressing if it was an incredibly low commitment move or was (an attempt at, sometimes you're slow to react, it happens) a guaranteed punish of some sort.

to this end, if they're -8, you can treat something that's like 15f or less but plus as a "guaranteed punish", I would do that into low commitment options or like, throw

over time, trying out different ways of playing will help you recognize what things you're weak at

there will be people who gimmick check and knowledge check their ways pretty high in rank and never learn how to deal with anything, and there is an invisible wall where those people stop progressing, because they will inevitably reach a point where the people they fight know how to shut them down, and they don't know the first thing of how to play in response.

for those people, tekken becomes the hardest fighting game anyone could ever play if they keep playing ranked, because now they have the knowledge of a 4 dan fighting at high rank. It becomes hard to even practice when every single mistake is absurd damage and/or awful situations to end up in.

for me, it was cool hitting a new peak in ranked, but never something that was my primary drive or focus. A lot of that mentality was driven out by making it to fujin in 2 days letting people kill themselves on me as asuka and doing basically nothing else.

[wintry dagger]

@real field recognize any of these moves?

[real field]

okay

thank you iroquois

I'm now hype for this dumbass character LMAO

[hidden ember]

My knowledge for T8 is non-existent, but i play decently for a newbie

[real field]

I'm on a brief break to give my wrists some rest but I'm coming back in a huge way the day kuni drops if you wanna play some then :D

[prisma fjord]

Is ss3 worth it I am tempted to buy the pass for Kuni but I feel like it gonna be ss2 all over again

bought it and barely play anyone from the pass

[wintry dagger]

I barely played anyone from S2 aside from AK. But it's nice to have full access to lab each pass character.

Im waiting to see who the last character is before buying S3

[prisma fjord]

guess I could wait when it on sale

cuz lowkey I dont wanna buy it at full price

[plucky sky]

Tomorrow.

[wintry dagger]

Curious to see if what im hearing from my buddy is true or not

[stark salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/kakashi-kaksakshi-gif-21944993

Parry Kunais bitch !

[stark salmon]

Oh now, you are learning Roger?

Why do you think I said that the moment you learn Roger, you will want Marduk back.

[wintry dagger]

I can parry Alisa's chainsaws. Kunai's ain't nothing

[real field]

Elaborate!

[wintry dagger]

I have a fgc buddy who likes data mining and he's in a few discords about it. He's a casual Tekken player who's only played 7 and 8, but asked me who X character is because a new folder was created/ renamed at the tail end of S2

He's wrong like 8 times out of 10 times but he did mention a new ||VF6 trailer and Cielo|| like two days before they legit leaked

[real field]

fascinating! which character is he thinking?

[wintry dagger]

Nice try

[real field]

wdym

[wintry dagger]

You know what I mean

[real field]

I genuinely have no idea

is it like, against server rules to discuss that or

_>

[plucky sky]

DM it to me, I’ve got the unreal unpacker and I’ll take a look

[wintry dagger]

@plucky sky dm sent.

[low summit]

almost to tekken king

[prisma fjord]

God I hate myself this is the 5th time I reach TE on King

I simply cannot go pass TE on King

[prisma fjord]

wow just as I said that

I'm back to Tekken King on King

[hidden ember]

First video: https://youtu.be/cSotOXZ_gn0?si=T83Nx72UX_nQoJ9V
Second video: https://youtu.be/ZFER1F5bNbM?si=it-PaAJzYz705eG_

[prisma fjord]

I see you have a habit of not using King 1+2 after hitting the B3

[plucky sky]

How are they assailant?

Wait no

I’m stupid

I’m assuming they’re not a King or Reina player, and that Tekken God is their minimum rank yeah?

[prisma fjord]

I was about to say the same about the King clip

he barely does any giant swing

nor setups to confirm the grabs

[plucky sky]

It’s just gimmicky knowledge checks on King

And real talk, any Mishima player trying to do WGF is still probably gonna input electrics sometimes at that speed

[prisma fjord]

but meh I barely have any rights to say anything I'm still just a Tekken God Lee player

[plucky sky]

Ki charge misinputs???

[hidden ember]

I have 0 idea. I just play the way i play atm

[plucky sky]

I'm not even Tekken God tbh

I don't have the patience to get like

Get 50 wins per rank

I'm at Bushin with Lee and I get roughly 500 points per win

And I need 12k points

So that's 24 wins

[wintry dagger]

What ranks are you fighting against to only get 500 points? I was getting 1000-1200 from Kishin all the way to GoD

I just checked my S3 stats and it took around 70 wins for me to go from Kishin to GoD

[plucky sky]

Same ranks

TG and above don't re

Lower ranks will re

And it's a 50/50 whether bushin re

[wintry dagger]

Bushin fighting blue ranks should still he 1000 points per win

[plucky sky]

Yeah but they don't really rematchs so I'm not getting them a majority of the time

[real field]

We finally found the way the European scene isn't better than NA ;)

[plucky sky]

Hm?

[plucky sky]

TOP 8 IN 30 SECONDS

40

SORRY

30 SECONDS

YUJIRO????

[wintry dagger]

Ngl I don't watch anime so I have no idea who this is

[plucky sky]

Uhhh

[real field]

I don't watch baki

[plucky sky]

Probably the most bullshit anime character

I watched a bit of Baki, probably one of the weirdest characters

[solid stirrup]

Inspiration for Akuma, super obvious with his design in SF6 yeah?

[low summit]

this is fucking fire

[wintry dagger]

Define bullshit lol

He ain't playing a 2D game in Tekken is he?

[plucky sky]

He uhhh

[rigid mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yujiro-hanma-baki-cooking-esquizofrenia-gif-10183314646088788512

[hidden ember]

Yoooo

[plucky sky]

It's really hard to explain how bullshit he is

[wintry dagger]

Would he be better off in MK with some mystical powers?

[plucky sky]

The narrator glazes him so hard though

No mystical powers

[wintry dagger]

So he's just OP like Heihachi, lore wise?

[plucky sky]

The anime tries to convince you his feats are well within human possibility but also like

He beat an elephant to death, a cavemen in a fight, he beat the US army which is why they lost in vietnam, he saw his son use a technique to look like a triceratops so he invented his own technique on the spot to imitate the strongest animal alive (himself) and this is like

There's more feats

[solid stirrup]

He's from a ridiculous anime of ridiculous nonsense

[plucky sky]

Also he's comically evil but also just in general way more evil

[wintry dagger]

@real field since its out now, the character my buddy swore it would be Soldier Boy

[plucky sky]

This isn't what people meant by they wanted Ogre in T8

[real field]

I prefer this

to that

I'll take an anime character over a live action one tbh

[plucky sky]

I hope the Yujiro pass has a wolf head piece similar to something like this

A beastars reference would be sick and make sense

[real field]

I just realized

the reason I know the name "baki" is because people were asking why fahkumram looks like a character from that

[plucky sky]

For context Beastars author is the daughter of Baki's author

[prisma fjord]

ahh I can finally take a break

[rigid mortar]

https://vxtwitter.com/SebboTK/status/2058681154694250560?s=20

Sebbo (@SebboTK)

Yujiro manifesting through the monitor to fucking kill me after I drop his winrate bellow 50%

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 24, 2026, 10:46 PM

[low summit]

tekken king mother fuckers

[real field]

I just had a really funny realization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8PakwFP5E

they show her off, in order, against

• yoshimitsu
• lidia
• eddy
• xiaoyu
• jin

(rest irrelevant to my point)

story-wise, the first three are the crew that lose to heihachi

but also for the purposes of a trailer to market to people to buy the character

"are YOU getting scrubbed on by KNOWLEDGE CHECKING YOSHIMITSU PLAYERS???? Are YOU losing to an Eddy player whose 3 button is a macro???? Did YOU lose 130 health because you made the worst possible decision in the worst possible circumstance against Lidia??? WE HAVE A CHARACTER FOR YOU!"

[prisma fjord]

dumb question when Lee is in Hitman stance does it register him as mid or high?

sometimes I'm trying to do a homing high on King when Lee sidesteps during hitman it keep whiffing

[real field]

I think he's crouching, no?

you can always check in the replay, if you turn on move properties it'll show if/when he's in crouching state

[plucky sky]

You also forget that the reason she fights Yoshi first is because of the whole, her mum betrayed the Manji clan and wants to steal Yoshimitsu (the sword)

Xiaoyu is probably there because she's usually the smallest character

Except Kunimitsu is even shorter

[wintry dagger]

Bruh even if you're playing Kuni you'll still get knowledge checked by Yoshi, lose to an Eddy, and get two tapped by Lidia

[low summit]

yeah i’m not sure what that point of that post even was

kuni can’t save you from any of those things

[wintry dagger]

Her hitbox Might cause a combo to drop off axis.

That's like, it

[real field]

I'm not saying it's true I'm making a vague joke about the marketing trying to target ignorant new players

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they can't all land ig

[wintry dagger]

https://x.com/i/status/2058799092453544149

[zinc condor]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2058799092453544149

LowTierJunko3 (@Steventhefirek2)

Realizing that I'll get a bunch of videos like 'Yujiro shows LowTierGod how to become a better father by taking whatever manhood he has left' on my YouTube feed when Yujiro drops.

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FxTwitter · May 25, 2026, 6:35 AM

[prisma fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/black-clover-emoticon-asta-lets-go-gif-21016541

[dusk oar]

Lfg

[stark salmon]

Ss4, DF3,2, qcf1, F3 (Set),3 and you are golden

[low summit]

new goal is to get from TK to TG

[cloud yoke]

This just looks so fucking surreal

[dusk oar]

it does

[plucky sky]

I genuinely love the characterisations in Tekken 8

I love all the small details like Reina won't insult Heihachi, Kazuya won't kick Jun after his rage art (and he'll always have the devil transformation outro without the smile) and so on

[dusk oar]

[plucky sky]

I wish some character matchups would have unique round transition animation

(Like Kazuya and Heihachi staring each other down T7 final battle style)

[dusk oar]

Doesn't Kaz have a unique throw animation in one of the old games too

I think it was his wile crouching one

[wintry dagger]

Feng laughing at Asuka after he parries her.

Anna and Nina banter mid fight

Leroy calling Kaz and only Kaz a degenerate

Bryan recovering health after he gets stomped on by Anna

[low summit]

how do i get from TK to TG? 👀 @wintry dagger

[wintry dagger]

Like... specifics on how to improve?

[plucky sky]

No, that was an item move

[low summit]

like what to look out for.

essential skills to speak

[plucky sky]

I knew all these besides the Feng one

But generally, if they have a "unique" looking move in the old games, it's probably an item move

[dusk oar]

Oh ok

[wintry dagger]

It may be worth while to start working on defense and situational awareness.

Take a look back on older replays you lost and make a note of how many unsafe strings you don't punish, how many high attacks you don't duck. And whether or not you fell for some OG tekken situations

Like did you eat a King/AK Giant Swing with their back to the wall? Did you fall for the Law 123 into D24 or whatever the string is?

[low summit]

yah i always get hit by those lol

[wintry dagger]

@low summit if you want I can play in like 20 minutes or whenever you're free.

Could give some direct pointers from that

[low summit]

hype

[wintry dagger]

@low summit hoping on now if you want to play

[low summit]

let’s run it

[real field]

Yeah that shit is awesome!

[stark salmon]

you reminded me Tag2 intros and outros. We need more of those.

[plucky sky]

Tag2 intros aren't as good tbh, the outros though? Great show of characters

Though it's really hard to show character interactions in outros when one is unconscious though

But still, unique character outros should be a thing

Like imagine if Kazuya beats Jin or Heihachi and then picks then and starts walking away with them

Or Kazuya picks up Jun Tag 1 style

https://tenor.com/view/devil-kazuya-mishima-%26-jun-kazama-ending---tekken-tag-tournament-gif-2015029720103660074

I love Kazuya and the ever so tiny shred of humanity he can't get rid off

I don't think most characters could get an intro like that

[wintry dagger]

https://x.com/i/status/2059546839997657326

[zinc condor]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2059546839997657326

TEKKEN (@TEKKEN)

A patch for #TEKKEN8 will drop on May. 28 at 0:00 CEST | May. 27 15:00 PDT | May. 28 7:00 JST.
︀︀
︀︀This patch intends to support Kunimitsu Early Access, correct unintended behavior and etc.
︀︀*Details of the update will be provided in the patch notes on the day of release.

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FxTwitter · May 27, 2026, 8:06 AM

[wintry dagger]

Patch drops at 6pm tonight. EST

[real field]

TONIGHT?!

I just have to survive not even twelve more hours

9 hours

I can make it

[real field]

I am incredibly excited to have no idea what I'm doing

You don't even know

[wintry dagger]

Officially decided that if Lidia dodges nerfs im gonna main her

[solid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-obi-wan-gif-10973435

[reef geyser]

Lidia has only one weakness and it makes her unplayable for me

8 dollars

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dusk oar]

[reef geyser]

The only char I'm willing to spend money on is Bob
Cuz he is the hottest guy in Tekken

Hot take of the day

[wintry dagger]

Was about to say.. Not enough of a muscle mommy compared to Marisa?

[wintry dagger]

Add Roger to that list just for the lolz

[reef geyser]

Also that
Not hot enough

[reef geyser]

Imma say
Roger's mom is not to be ignored

[wintry dagger]

And also no wedding dress costume

[wintry dagger]

Mama Roger got hands. And feet. And Giant Swings

[dusk oar]

i am waiting for yujiro

[low summit]

yujiro

[dusk oar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/baki-yujiro-2

"the rps"

[wintry dagger]

Updates out on PS5

[low summit]

lfg

[plucky sky]

She's not playable rn

[low summit]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[wintry dagger]

Usually takes an hour or so

Patch notes are down

Lars no longer regens heat by spinning

https://www.tekken-official.jp/tekken_news/?p=3225

RIP Heat regen across the board

Goddammit

[solid stirrup]

Phi will be in love I'm sure

[real field]

Feels slightly beyond necessary imo

I think it was good for specifically the really hard to land throws on king and armor king to refend enough that it's not like throwing the gauge away to use them

Throws that put people far away and sacrifice oki having that is not that bad a thing IMO

[low summit]

good fuck lars lmao

[wintry dagger]

He also lost the power crush on heat F3+4

[low summit]

even better

that was ignorant

[plucky sky]

Wait

Lee's taunt isn't mentioned

[real field]

SHE HAS A COMMAND THROW!!!!!!

any word on when the servers come back up?

oh!

11 pm central

[wintry dagger]

Stealth nerf that isn't in the patch notes according to Lee mains in a different server im in

[real field]

11 FRAME COMMAND THROW