#Tekken General
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@stark salmon when we playing S2 lol
Same as it ever was
You're actually playing ranked in this madness?
It was an accident
I played QP then stopped the que to test someshit
then i picked ranked by an accident
F
Emergency patch later this month nerfing Jack and Paul
@delicate merlin abuse Jack's new string while you can lol
Thank you for sharing friend ❤️
i've had to take a hiatus from gaming, but i plan to come back. is there a tl;dr on season 2?
Tldr is EVERYONE is busted
Except Lee, Feng and Zafina allegedly
what happened to my boy feng??
I actually have no idea. Haven't really played S2 much aside from testing out Leroy and Anna
oh right, anna is out!
when are they not?
even more so than usual? haha
Short story is Everyone expected defense to get buffed in S2. Which would lead to less 50/50 casino guessing. And they did buff sidestepping by letting you buffer it and being able to sidestep left after blocking an attack that would leave you in crouch
In the same patch with the new sidestep mechanics. They added new moves that specifically helped out character weaknesses.
They gave Hwo a tracking low attack because he had difficulty tracking sidesteps
Jun has a +6 on block mid attack that forces you to guess the mixup because "she had trouble initiating offense"
Jack has his new move
Leroy has a +5 on block mid mid sting that leaves him point blank in hermit and has a new CH launch from Hermit
Point is devs doubled down on offense when they were on record saying they'd focus on defense
Oh and they redid ranked and reset everyone's ranks
Jack-8 is that braindead that I can win ranked games while blindfolded with someone directing me in call... what happened to the game i love... 🥲
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Too tack onto what snake said, they also gave Jack nearly uncounterable nonsense and gave Paul an unintended unblockable
That was literally my next sentence
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As soon as the round starts, if Eddy inputs d/f, he will teleport a short distance.
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here's a wiki page for Law
https://wavu.wiki/t/Law
I can personally teach you hwoarang if you wish
Law is a close range, poking-based, slide archetype character with strong neutral tools and strong block punishment. A legacy character with traditionally challenging execution, he is very accessible this time around and is suitable for anyone looking to live out their Bruce Lee fantasy.
Law has an extensive moveset that allows for flexibility i...
Oh, thanks 
I've found a Hwoarang guide too
So now I need to decide
Law is better but Hwoarang has better flow, better whiff punish and rewards off hard reads. (I am biased towards rang)
Both are very cool. I'm shit at Tekken so I'm at the level of which one is cooler
And it's hard to decide for me right now. Hwoarang was one of my favourites back in the day. But he seems pretty difficult now
He is mechanically difficult in terms of restraint and hit confirms, he also has a wavedash just frame, meanwhile law has pretty much little to no execution required
Otherwise he is one of the least interactable characters in the game with explosive mixups (for both fighters)
I dunno i don't play law
Hwoarang?
Kwiss or Speedkicks
I meant were you talking about Hwoarang here?
I actually have watched a bit of k wiss
What do you mean by "for both fighters"?
You die if you get blocked.
yes
this is the tekken community right now
He "plays" hwoarang
What does that mean?
1500 hours
Rogue face rolls his flowchart and when you ask him what move he did he does a completely different move
It makes learning from him very easy and not in any way frustrating
me when someone asks what i just did in a fighting game ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I pressed some buttons
Yeah see there's a difference between "i dunno" and "this one?... this one?... "x4
While the person is also going "I know exactly what move my character is doing because that's the move I want to use in that position"
me when some one asks me to tell me properties of a singular move in a 16 hit string
Then why didn't you do that 16hit string again rogue
clairvoyance
OK I think I'll go play something else
im mashing X
Are you playing tekken right now rogue
Sure buddy
@cloud yoke I might hit you up for some Hwoarang advice in the near future if that's cool?
Sure man message me whenever you want
Which region are you? For some reason I thought you were UK
Poland
Ah. EU at least. Half way there lol
@cloud yoke sorry, one more thing. Is there something like Dustloop/Supercombo etc for Tekken? I can't seem to find anything
that's the wavu wiki

Thank you
My local scene is very Tekken-centric. I've decided to try and hold my own against them
But it feels so weird and different
But I'm beginning to enjoy it
"Stop blocking low. Stop blocking low. Stop blocking low."
@winged karma one of the best crashouts ive seen. spent months unlearning T7 steve and finally got to a point where he felt confident with steve. spent 2 days in rank not winning cuz he was trying to play tekken. found the answer was just getting into heat and mashing, no thought
You playing Eddy?
@cloud yoke what are Hwoarangs neutral pokes?
I'm seeing a lot of the uppercut?
And jab
@plucky sky @cloud yoke or anyone else really lol.
Anyone playing right now? Can't find a match and wanna see how my Anna does
In long/medium range neutral you wanna cycle between cd1,4 cd3 d3+4 ff3/wr3 df4
Oh I don't know tekken terminology. What is cd?
It's short for crouch dash
You can crouch dash?
Some characters have a way to dash foward using a specific input

Mishimas mostly
Forward, neutral, down, down Forward?
Ah I see
x to doubt meme
Some other characters have a classic quater circle foward notation
Which is commonly called
sway (for most characters)
Sneak (for dragunov)
and others
Oh also. I've heard that during heat, characters have unique abilities. What does Hwoarang gain?
Oh also. Is there a way to stance cancel?
Because sometimes I find myself in stance and I want to return to neutral
First of all, all of his moves deal chip damage. In contrast to other characters in the roaster, Hwoarang deals more of it due to how many moves he does (a lot)
Second, he gains critical natural extensions for his launcher ( where it normally wouldn't combo, now he gains new ways to launch you on a counterhit, and it hurts a lot)
Third of all, he gains the ability to perform a knockdown with his hellsweep in Right flamingo (the last hit of right flamingo d4,3,4 isn't a combo outside of heat/counter)
So in short, his pressure becomes a lot more pressuring?
Unlike other character (ex. Victor) Hworang cannot exit his stance without performing an attack or waiting for it to fizzle out.
His pressure remains the same but reward for it is generally better. He does not get more frame advantage for having heat.
Damn. That's quite different to most other stance characters I've played
Gotcha!
That is correct. Note that you can allways cancel his stance with a corresponding flamingo jab that has 13 frames of startup and not a whole lot of recovery
Is 13 frames low in tekken? Because that sounds like a lot to me
It in theory is. As the golden standard is 10 frame highs (jabs) 13 frame mids and 16 lows
10 frames is universal fastest
10? 
Yoshimitsu, Raven and Lili have character specific quicker options
Yoshi has a 6f in flash
Raven and Lili have 8f back turn jabs iirc
Flash is yoshi in heat?
It’s tiny though
However, Hworang has ways to be faster than his opponent, like:
- Simply being plus (he just is on a lot of his moves)
- Performing a powercrush (Hworang the only character in the game with a power crush attack that is cancelable and hit confirmable)
- Right Flamingo f4,4 (it's a counter hit launcher that starts of from frame 8)
Normally in his game plan you don't have to worry about being mashed out of his stance due to his transisions being naturally plus:
- 3,3,4 is a high mid high string that's +8 on block
- d3,4 is a natural low high that's 14+ on hit
- ff3 is a mid that's +6 on block

Yoshimitsu's flash properties change according to his sword position.
- He can either have it in his hand (where it is a 6 frame startup mid that get's you a heat engager)
- Or have it sheathed (It is now a 8 frame startup mid launcher)
I'm getting overloaded to be honest
** Yoshimitsu's flash will allways behave like it is sheathed as long as he is in heat**
That's a lot to take in as Hwoarang is not a simple character (he is, in lack of better terms, a rushdown generalist)
and Yoshimitsu's sword gimmick is one of the things that make him powerfull.
All great information, and thank you
I'll take as much in as I can
But I'm still a beginner
Feel free to ask anytime.

It's not easy in any FG. But to me, Tekken is so different
3D platform
Different rules
Tekken performs mixup and neutral differently than other fighting games (Strive, street fighter)
The list goes on, honestly. When it comes to 2D FGs, they all follow a general rule set. Based on SF
Tekken does not
In strive for example, pressure mostly begins from a singular move (cS, kick moves, throws) where you have branching choices of 50/50 and pressure resets
In tekken, your character not only has 50/50 stances, but also can have around 150-300 string moves which you have to recognize the start of to not fail at simple counterplay
In tekken you both have reaction checks and branching mixups resulting in a lot of mental stack
Well yeah, and this goes deeper into what I said about 2D FGs. Because most, if not all, follow this rule. Basically
You do also have this in 2D games though by the way
Don't use Strive as your base marker. Use Street Fighter
Anime games are a whole different ball game
Correct, same goes for defense.
In 2d fighting games it's all about character matchup spacing, frame advantage/disadvantage for mashes and risky invincible reversals
In tekken you also have an entire 3rd dimension that you can use your **frame advantage/disadvantage to ** evade rather than mash
Yeah but there's no beating around the bush that the resident tekken 8 grappler has
197 moves
and you better know most of them
Here's a proper term.
I'm sorry. But are you trying to teach me what abare is?
I think you might be under the impression that I'm new to FGs
I'm not. I'm new to Tekken
I just like to infodump about tekken 8
Abare is a SF term. Not a Tekken term
It is important to use proper terminology in neutral setting as a way to show respect
It generally has been adopted to wide use in many fighting game communities
I'm sorry. I might have come across in a bad way there
But, you were talking about mashing in kind of a derogatory way. So I thought you saw mashing as a scrubby technique
Mashing works way better than it should. Especially in tracken 8
It is what it is and I'm not opinionated on abare's in neutral setting
Well abare is not a technique you'd use in a neutral setting
It's something you'd use on wake up
Neutral setting, as in, while talking about abare's in fighting games in general
not, as in, neutral setting in a fighting game
we can talk about abare's in tekken 8
Well that's something I don't know about
Abare to me, would be mashing a fast button on wake up. Or while in a block string etc
Usually it would be on wake up
Those are specific examples that fall under the umbrella of pressing a button while under a frame disadvantage
In tekken you also do that
sometimes on the ground
other times you do that with your fastest button
in other times you do so with a move that might not be the fastest, but is naturally evasive
and when push comes to shove, you might want to press a button that simply doesn't get you too punished on hit

I generalise in this situation because charcters in tekken have a lot of moves and it usually depends on what you want to do
so the best thing right now is to focus on your character
whatever that may be
Hwoarang
You might not know your opponent but knowing your character is more than half the battle
When it comes to Hworang you wanna break down your character research by goals you can set in a match, like:
- what low should i hit my stand blocking opponent with
- what move should i punish somebody with when they simply wildly whiff buttons in neutral
- what is a string that usually doesn't get me killed
- what combo should i do in this situation
- what moves are plus on block to check mashing people
- what move should i use to check crouching people with
so on and so on
Mind you hwoarang is a button intensive character and there will be a lot of back to back questions
Specifically regarding frame advantage, frame trapping and 50/50 mid/low pressure.
Yeah this is usually how I like to play FGs
Frame traps, high/lows
Strike/throw
Good for you that Hworang has a full 33/33/33 throw mixup
where a lot of characters get 50/50
Chip damage for guessing right and breaking a throw
Get a drink, watch a show, and forget about FGs
That's a X factor reserved for cosmic interference
yee hee ass victor spacing
You're torturing me lol.My Xbox is out for repairs and I can't play Tag 2 for a while
install an emulator on your computer and set it up
Only computer i have is my work laptop
I do have T7 installed though
download t5 and tag 2 😂
T7 is on my PS5 lol. My work laptop can barely run the built in Solitude game
I was reading through Leroy's patch notes again and I knew they made the cane 16f but what didn't click immediately is that he's +16 after b3 which means guaranteed launcher anytime it hits (once per match at least). There's probably a better combo.
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This is absoluletly hilarious as Hwoarang can be 23+ on a counterhit and still not have a 13 frame followup
sounds like a skill issue
Ok Clive from Final fantasy
can you delete this? I do not want to @wintry dagger see this
im sure they already know
Already saw and used in an actual match

Idk the optimal route off this but I like the Ss 3+4 then hermit 4 just for oki plus frames
Which i did not use in this clip lol
straight jacking it,
and by it, let's say
my 8
Guys
I landed the Paul unblockable ws32
Devious and diabolical
real
is this from tekken or poe2?
tekken
The answer is both
Amazed both Tekken and poe2 had ass backwards, Season 2 esque, updates during the same week
Poe 2 though looks to be undoing some changes
Sticking to their guns on big things though
@stark salmon finally tried Jun
They never should have gave these characters money tailspins
We didn't know how to appreciate shit
What am I gonna do with all these old combos now, Harada??

Mf get's a guarranteed move out of any of his 4 stances with +32 frames and he still bitches about not having a follow up on a
- 17 dmg
- -14f on block
- High crushing
- Foward advancing, far reaching
- +6 on hit
low that shifts into a stance where you have a 14f mid or a 16f low
Yeah and the next fucking thing for hwoarang in the patch notes is a mid-mid string that is
- uninterruptable (no meaningful gap between the first and second hit)
- 4+ on block
- natural string on counter hit ( or in heat)
- foward advancing
- 14 frames of fucking startup for some reason
Oh and btw this mid string is right next to his hellsweep that deals 39 dmg in heat
There's no fucking mixup now, you just eat the mid
Oh and it tornadoes for some reason
if you had the SLIGHTEST idea to low crush it for some reason
they yassified my fucking mixups with a 50/50
can't play my rushdown character anymore
also
TLDR: Hwo got his own version of Scurge (Jin's D2)
I'm incredibly tempted to play T7 and troll with this abomination
She's gonna be tossing hands instead of coins to a Witcher
Salvatore Gannuci saw the Tekken community response when she got released before Eddy in T7 and said "hold my stage name"
Chloe?
Yeah, it was like first arcade release of the game
Sorry for the late response, mass effect and SF got me
me1??
Yeah, legendary edition though
thats fine, they made one pain in the ass encounter better in it
Yeah, and the button layout is more intuitive this time around
Minus having A/x do everything
oh i havnt played it using a controller since it first released
but ive beaten it prob 8 times
Yeah, my roommate said it was the type of game to just suck you in
Mass Effect goated
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Quoting Dustiel (@DustyEel)
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This is the most fun I've had with S2 to be quite honest
Foolish Anna, I've stolen your swagger!
Yoshi steals Anna's rage art
Quoting RiF SCHIZOPHRENIC69 (@kunii_tv)
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@PhiDXGames it's so much worse AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is my opinion about S2
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︀︀I would be happy if this helpful to them.
︀︀Honestly, I think the developer's idea should be different from the player. However, I think it would be nice to accept some feedback.
︀︀but I don't care if they don't listen. Tekken8 is already a negative
Big ass post
When Anna is hit/blocks a projectile, she will do a random move and if that random move goes into stance she can moveset swap.
watching tekken streamer play sf6 has been fun
Huh
Anna and everyone else simultaneously butt slammed your video memory card
Gotta delete all those nsfw mods
Now I want a PC
An emergency patch will be deployed to address the issues occurring in #TEKKEN8 (v2.00.01).
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Everyone about to get more health
the buff health in strive did bugger all lol
What is more cost effective measure for dealing with combo damage increased by 20-30 points per character ?
A: Actually changing combo properties of certain problematic moves, their proration, scaling, ect. so your opponent doesn't die by 1 launch and 3 pokes due to bullshit extensions (like Lidia's ff4,3 or 300 tailspins you have added)
B: Give EVERYONE extra health so now you need to tweak EVERY poke move in the cast so "small tekken" doesn't get butchered (Like the lows due to extra health)
somebody outta be fired for this
8 FUCKING GAMES AND THEY CAN'T GET THEIR SHIT STRAIGHT
lmao
7 games and then they decided to "modernize" and have been shitting themselves with the consequences
It could be Tekken 4
I don't think we're at the level of that yet
Cool vibe and story but ass cheek otherwise
Asuka is too good and head empty for any of the cast
been gone all day whats the verdict
They nerfed Ki charge
Default health is now 200
Heat engagers now +9
tekken +9
All wall staggers that were +10 or more have been removed
but what do people think
I personally have just skimmed the notes. I'll look more in the morning
RIP Anna B2 glitch
Right steps, but will take the long route
Steve top 1
In Tek tek tek 8 ? You must be tripping

My live reaction after doing this for the first time

I just saw a Tag 2 clip of someone losing 50% health in a single combo
Bryan gets tagged in
Taunt b4 into mach punch
Takes the other 50%
Literally 2 touched
Must've a fluke in someone's judgement
KTG: LOL I'm so edgy isn't it funny to make fun of minorities?
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@wintry dagger
People really don't re against Jack huh
People don't rematch in general ever since S2
Ironically enough I get more rematches when I play Eddy than Leroy or Nina
It's okay he's launchable on block in this matchup ( I promise)
blud forgot to block when he was +9
When Lili's losing and then she remembers her Dad just made a million disappearing union organizers
207 and you only need one
I got 99 207 problems but a King ain't is one all of them
aww, that's just a system mechanic c'mon now
I found something
good for you
"Sir, another infinite has hit Tekken 8 april patch."
heat engaging power crush fyi
I've officially retired from Ranked/Quick Match until the next major balance patch
@Madara521Twitch @wagboy919 It doesnt work like that. Ram is also broken but there are like 2 top level players around on her. Leo is a character that defies any logic and concept of balance. He is turbo broken and we would ban him from official competition if as a community we cared more for fairness
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the reply to this is extremely funny
Happy EISENSTURM noises*???
They HAD the CAT in the BAG
with season 1
few outliers
yoshi
nina
jimbo
but nah
throw that shit into the river
2 cinderblocks attached
@plucky sky @wintry dagger@winged karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-4bjo4OmI
Clip credit to
https://x.com/hoshio20200923 and
@Head_Pie
Legit no one about to pick Zafina for Evo
Also words that will scare @stark salmon
Leroy Infinite

crouch cancel
What are you trying to learn or what did you see?
was watching a vod thing and the guy said the answqer to kings sprint into flying kick is cc b3 as jack
Do you have a link to this?
Cause I can't think of anything Jack has him forced crouching
And b3 is a high
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It's ass man
Jin alone is reason enough
This shit is evil
Not mentioning the wall mechanics
It's cool looking, cool sounding and cool story
But man
It's not a good game lmao
Unbalanced as all hell
there are still counter plays for it. But he was strong yes. Therefore, they made him weak af in 5 and DR.
The counterplay is so fucking inconsistent
It's side walk right, which gets caught by Laser Scraper
And laser scraper is -8 on hit, so only 8f jab characters can punish
Like there's literally only 1 way to counterplay bf21:df2
And it loses to bf21df2
Also
21 is +11 on hit, so they're forced to eat the true 50/50 (which some characters can't even step)
Also 124 splats and gives guaranteed d4
Simple domain: hurtbox expansion
https://fxtwitter.com/pbeef2spicy/status/1918807157048218102?s=46
@wintry dagger therefore we must kill Leroy
cant wait to see what happens at evo japan in 5 days
Nah fuck Clive
Kill Clive instead
To anyone saying homing is fucked, I think it's just because Clive is that big lmao
His hurtbox goes through leroy when he tried to punish and it hit him
This is, by all accounts, player's fault for pressing into an active string.
And this is a problem not only because tekken team is lazy as fuck with hurtboxes but also because the recovery for a lot of strings is a all over the place so a lot of punishes might not work if you wait long enough
In conclusion, we should consider nerfing Devil Jin about it and buffing Lars
they should just not do that and instead kill tekken 8 and revive tekken 5
or tag 2
T5 is not the good one
T5:DR is
Super Battle Opera or Tougeki 2004. The tournament was hosted by Arcadia magazine and was also known as Arcadia Cup, the 2nd SBO brought the best player to compete in Tekken 4 Arcade version. This video contains the whole tournament.
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#tekken4match
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I am looking foward to whatever the fuck is going to happen at EVO
I’ve been watching the set so far up to like 2 and a half minutes
There’s been like 3 laser scrapers and 2 laser annihilators
1 scraper was blocked
And no annihilators have been stepped so far
This proves my point
Watching the second Jin set now
Will also record laser scraper mix
4 annihilators, 1 stepped with an evasive move by Capo (might actually be due to the sloped stage)
2 scraper, 1 blocked
3rd Jin set
0 annihilator, 0 stepped
1, scraper, 1 blocked
4th set
0 annihilator, 0 stepped
1 scraper, 1 blocked
5th set
1 annihilator, 0 stepped
0 scraper, 0 blocked
6th set
0 annihilator, 0 stepped
1 scraper, 1 blocked (though I think it was a failed jf)
1 annihilator was stepped in all 6 of these sets
@plucky sky bf 2,1 is Jin’s classic check to side step and parries.
You shared the charged one Furthermore, you call the game broken but i want you to watch the entire tournament. Where is the broken shit?
1,2,4 on hit gives jin a free d1 or oki.
Like you said Laser Scrapper is a mix but mix in 4,5,6,Tag 2,7,8 as well. Like there is a difference between a strong move vs a broken one.
Jin was strong but not broken
Problem is charge.
tekken4 problem was stages not balance of the cast
No, unblockable laser annihilator was also an issue
1, 4 was an issue
1, 2, 4 was an issue
I can’t think of any other character who has an uninterruptible unblockable in a string, let alone launching
Like one massive issue with Jin isn’t bf2,1
It’s the same as usual
It’s the fact that he has annihilator
Jin has so many tools in 4 that puts him above the rest
-11 on block hellsweep
2,1 is plus on block
Parry is actionable immediately on whiff
Also like the full laser scraper string is -8 on block
Mid mid mid
Im not saying Jin was weak. However, he was not broken. What made T4 competitively broken is stages. Anyone who competed in that game would say the same.
But he was literally broken though, most people agree with it
He was competitively dominant
Looked through liquidpedia, and while there’s only 3 results
All three tourneys, were won by Jins
I've been watching a lot of Esports matches since 1999. Most of esports regulation has articles about players who abuse bugs to be disciplined. The same goes for the bugs with Asuka and Paul's charging move. From Friday, EVO Japan starts, and I think @BNEesports has to announce if those moves are bugs or just intented strong moves.
i cant wait for friday @cloud yoke
Goddamit
700 hours ago i had people bitching about me being a hard stuck fujin
1 tekken emperor later fucking rank deflation hits and ** I AM BACK TO SQUARE ONE**
is this fucking purgatory
Something something samsara
All I want is ability to parry mid air moves. Then I wanna challenge every single hworang i can find.
You better watch what you're asking for, because that is not going to vibe with lars
or his dragon lash
of the 50/50 after the dragon lash
that 50/50 which had to be changed multiple times so people couldn't option select
or worse yet, you gonna wake up like lee and law players
with
"balance changes"
patch comes out and both hworangs legs are broken, he now fights in a wheel chair
Leroy says hi
i could parry his bs in 7 and 6. Same for Hworang.
i dont want buff or nerfs. Just the ability to parry mid air moves.
"Chicken!"
get that shit back too!!!!
It was satisfying to land that though
Being able to parry moves that are currently considered unparryable is a buff and Leroy doesn't need it considering he can fuck with my character more than anybody else
It was a core tech of entire franchise. Removing the ability of that is the buff.
Your character’s half of the moves are armoured. Some are homing mid safe. Let us parry it.
Same goes for can can. Let us parry can can!
I think most of his "jumping moves" are actually grounded now
I've been parrying hwo's moves with Hei's b1+2
Good
Changing parry status was a core design decision in the making of Tekken 8 and its ramifications were accounted for during the development. Giving that shit raw now after season 2 to Leroy would only make the game worse.
Me having armored moves has nothing to add to the discussion, as all of them have drawbacks or counterplay while being parryable.
I have exactly one airborne homing heat engager,
But it is pretty slow, requires a stance transition and is only +1 on block on a character with absolutely no safe tracking in that situation.
You already counter most of the frame traps I do by showing your parry up my ass, I deserve to call out your parry with a move that is airborne that you can definitely sidestep
The most promising change for airborne status on hwo in season 2 was removing it from two of his 6 power crushes
No idea why they gave a power crush airborne property
Also they should just add extra recovery+block stun to can cans so you can punish them more easily when whiffed
The what
Moves with the whiff property have different recovery depending on if they hit or not
Example, Heihachi's b4
If it whiffs he gets like an extra 30f of recovery on it
I did not say it for Leroy. Personally, I do not even play Leroy. It is a universal tech.
Nina has reversal, Paul Has reversal, Asuka has kick parries, Jin’s Parry etc.
It is a “Defence Option” they removed for Tekken 8.
i’m not able to parry Hwo like I was in 7 and 5. Also, did you mention Side Step? In this game?!
All I want is to see old “universal” defence options to be back in 8
Yeah, you're playing a 3d game, every character has a sidestep, not everyone has a reversal or a parry
yeah, I love a 3D Game with movement and defence focused game. Not Guilty Gear Strive Tekken edition.
rogue I've seen you break down hwo rps and it's so fucking ass for the defender 90% of the time
i forgot that part. Hwo is a RPS character like Jun!
There's also no shot you're complaining about parries when you told me off for complaining that you could parry H&E 2
Zyx I've heard you claim that hwoarang has good neutral, which is straight up false
What?!
@cloud yoke Which platform do you play?
i feel like the half screen kick that's + means you have a decent neutral tool
YOU HAVE, AN, UNBLOCKABLE, IN, YOUR, STANCE.
YOU HAVE WAYS TO BEAT PARRY
@woeful zealot who do you play?
Zyx who do you play?!
I liked Lidia and jun
Yeah, like airborne moves
I like to play on my Samsung smart fridge hooked up to my steam deck
Lidia is full gamble but you can parry her options on read
Good you play emulate old games. Lets run DR, 6,Tag2 1v1 then 7
you learn the history of the game
"Just bait the parry"
@cloud yoke
5 DR: Jin
6 : Can Play Jin/Asuka/DJ
Tag 2: Jun and DJ can play asuka too
7: DJ/Kazuya/Asuka/Noctis/Kuni. Fuck it i will refresh my memory on Jin
lets run some games
👀 kuni
Man I've got no time nor money to entertain your ego in a older fighting game
Im entertaining my ego? I’m pointing your error.
Yeah, it's called an rps, we have those in fighting games
Brother
and wish to see the old defensive options. How is this about ego?
i played her to understand her cheese
WE
ARE
TALKING
ABOUT
TEKKEN
8
not 4
not 7
not 5 dr
8
No shade, I really liked how kuni looked
I heard her gameplay was unfun though
I DON'T WANT TO PLAY A BACKDASH COMPETITION ON ENDLESS AZURE AGAINST ZAFINA IN TEKKEN 7
WE WANT DEFENSIVE OPTIONS THAT EXISTED FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS
YOU HAVE DEFENSIVE OPTIONS YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPTION SELECT WITH THEM
Song be fire though
Also if you like defensive options, why is T4 one of the best then?
Parrying in Tekken pre 8 was a knowledge check
Rogue, I know Tekken 8 is your first tekken game. And I will not start an argue as one of moderators of this server but i will tell you that you are acting you know everything.
I do not know everything and I respect different perspectives from all levels. If you want to share your opinion do it with facts.
Betas were more stable than the full launch
?
I KNOW
(mostly)
EVERYTHING
ABOUT
TEKKEN
8
I TALK ABOUT
TEKKEN
8
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT PREVIOUS TITLES
Hence cause the downfall of Tekken Franchise.
man i give up
Go to your locals if you are so good
Pls
There's no locals in Europe
You didn't know the last move you did
Parrying was ass in T7
im certain a community can be found. Or at least monthlies
or online tournaments
Sure hopkicks and shit could be parried
But why wouldn't you just buffer chicken behind your shit
man this is purgatory
The parry changes is a healthier one for the game imo
if only Knee would see this 😂😂😂 since he is coming after players like you
?
what does knee have to do with all of this ?
i disagree. The game is unfortunately one sided even with heat changes
It would be more one sided with chickens
Disagree
chicken is a hard read. I respect that. It should be in the game
Defensive mechanics often promote better offensive mechanics
Do you know what chicken does?
dont you know? He is coming after players holding similar opinions as yours on twitter.
T H A N K Y O U
Its the "parry" os you showed me once
There’s not much stopping you from buffering it
Should i call the police or smth then ? Tf are you adding him to this discussion
Right?
Yeah and it deals damage to the defender
You will call the police after I find you in ranked thats certain
Could you repost the video again ? Or link me to it
I successfully use a defensive option and oh? what's that, the opponent doesn't take damage but I do?
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dont you buffer a move if you read a certain move is coming to counter it?
You won't. We are on the different sides of the globe.
Don't take my opinion as gospel but that exactly what happened in strive and sf
god it's chip damage on broken grab again.
There's not much stopping you from attempting to buffer it after most moves in a matchup against like Asuka
Seriously though, parrying is strong af in this game against like Hwo
all good. One way or another you and I will play.
S2 made a bunch of "jumping moves" grounded
You can parry them now
He has to actively call it out now
Asuka has strong bugs
They completely changed her to be a walking juggernaut
also f2 is crushing mids in certain situations
I mean in T7
Oh in 7, you must turtle her. And you would be fine.
DF2 into Parry
UF3 into Parry
B4 into Parry.
this ability of hers was scarry
Yeah but nothing is stopping the opponent from attempting chickens
Also, what's stopping you from doing that in T8?
exactly. Defender calls out a certain move while attacker calls out the parry.
Great mindset it was
good thing I've never done that
no they did not remove that yes. However, chicken was an option for the attacker to “reverse” the parry.
I would argue but i see your point. I would suggest a tech to defend yourself against parries
Not mashing buttons be considered a tech now ?
brother, do not speak about games you did not play. Please. Thank you
Btw how does Julia play in t7
Yeah but is Knee coming after you ? You never know
nah, he is coming after Garyu of Destructions but open for a discussion
Not mashing buttons be considered a tech now ?
welsh not you too brother
Nuh uh, Tekken 6 player here
You did not tell me you play 6. Noice 🙌
Yeah, I used to play Kuma against my uncle
He's been playing Paul since 3
I should get him 8 as a christmas present one year
nah we should go back to good tekken like T4 where i can jab string into unlockable launcher, you sidestep, i fuck up the unlockable launcher, and you get launcherd
I may be a temporary Xiaoyu main
these combos are too long man
Mf nearly timed himself out
he could've raged art'ed for another 10 seconds off the clock
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anyone have the plugin to see the dislikes?
They fired the balancing team who worked on this game since T7 S3. According to harada, they are bringing OG Team.
Prob 5,6
8 was challenging in some aspects with a new team for battle & tuning, but we have returned the team structure to the members of the past.
︀︀In addition, the director, Nakatsu, who we all know and love, is now able to check and approve all tuning in detail (he was short on time as general manager, but now he gives final approval for every detail of battles and tuning).
︀︀As you all know, he originally comes from the fan community and was a writer for game magazines and strategy articles, and was also in charge of battles and tuning for TAG 2 and 7.
︀︀ So I don't think there is anything to worry about in the future.
Quoting Alesito (@BlondeBombCLP)
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@Harada_TEKKEN Harada, honestly, does the team even know what they want with Tekken 8? Every new patch seems like a new experiment. The disconnect between the player base and the development team is worrying.

Damn it took them an entire month to state "ight we are turning the car around"
one of these arent the same
is that fucking tifa in a bomber jacket?
Nah, that's Kuma
Dealer meets the house.
Who would win ?
Steve Lionheart (God's strongest pachinko soldier)
OR
Parry
I swear hitting that thing mid match multiple times is such a dopamine rush
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"We decided this before we pissed everyone off"
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Bruce is never coming back
safe to say armor king is confirmed now
I'd say so
Can't believe they are adding Hwoarang 2 to mashing 8
Chat room can somebody explain to me how the graffiti covered wall from brazil is a dissapointing choice for a character reveal ? ( I have not played 7)
Am I delusonal or how do you play a fighting game without mixups or knowledge checks ???
the game footsies
Explain to me what "neutral" is
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I love him immediately but my (VERY LIMITED) understanding is that he's basically tekken's equivalent to slayer
wildly polarizing big damage character with ass defense that's relatively popular for pickrate but also one of the most loudly hated characters as well
OP as Leroy when launched in T7,
had Lili's sidestep and Zafina's backdash,
stupid range,
smaller hurtbox,
Multiple. Delayable. Guardbreaks
ridiculous damage and easy to play
OP as Launch Leroy? It was worse than Launch Leroy 😔😔😔
True lol. I don't think Leroy was ever banned in Pakistan
get this
I will be
Tried normal vf5 for a little while but couldn't find an online match
Oh hey, Fahk
let me know. We will play
Any idea for the release date?
they did not announce the date for Revo on console but download ultimate showdown if you have it
I am suspicious
tekken 7 also had 'rollback netcode'
after how long VF has stubbornly insisted they don't need netcode worth a god damn I won't believe it's good until I see it in action with my own eyes
PC version and its players speak for itself.
IIRC VF 5 got rollback when it was rereleased in like 2021
but then the game faild for having dog shit netocde and being VF 5 again
no that version did not come with rollback. That’s Ultimate Showdown for ps4.
PC release introduced Rollback and it is considered the best version right now
@stark salmon I downloaded vf5. No idea when I'll get around to playing it
being a pessimistic doomer im going to say my take that tekken proved. dlc fighting passes should be shown all at once instead of drip fed. imagine playing tekken for this long and all the characters so far except maybe one has been a snooze. people would know if they can quit the game early
I choose optimism
What about Eddy, Heihachi, Anna and Lidia?
Like 4 extremely popular characters]
how do you doom about a game you dont play lamo
I think you are over selling the word extremely
Anna and Heihachi alone account for 7.54% of the playerbase
compound, im sorry, you arent in the community like that
I did say except maybe one and you can't include Anna since she's new everyone's trying her
this is like me saying dizzy is a sleep dlc for strive
I think using Tekken as an example of outdated marketing is fine even if you aren't playing the game
i dont think you can use that example if you dont know how the marketing has actually effected the community, as opposed to how twitter feels this week
YASSSS
I'm beginning to believe
Panda ? In S+ tier ? How queer ! I must inquire this with tekken balancing team at once !
Lidia so bad still she's not even on there 
What's the verdict on Lidia ? S or A ?
with lee
Bruh idk i play this game at my local and that's it
I was today year's old when I found out that Dragunov can empty cancel with snake edge without having to do the grab
@plucky sky@woeful zealot@stark salmon@wintry dagger
Guys I know you hate me but you gotta see this
LMFAOOOOOO
we had a good df 1 2 for a month lol
I saw a down arrow for King's heat smash and got excited
Only to realize it does like 3 less chip damage on block
Hate is a strong word but yeah this was a thing
finally we can side step charge like we could in 7,6,5
Now what makes you think that? Also this video is accurate
https://x.com/raccoonhill/status/1922230560925086084?s=46
@wintry dagger i really might play Nina
you got ten years to side step it now
and the level 2 charge is only +5 on block now
which was the case since 5. That move is a troll move but some players were able to make it useful. It did not have a proper counter play but armor it
Seriously do it. She's fun af
If Leroy wasn't in T8 I'd probably main Nina full time
true
Complaining about nerfs in this Tekken climate is the greed they spoke of in the Bible
Quoting Pulsar | evil46 (@seppaevil46)
︀
We deserved S2, a compilation
it's not even that big of a nerf, he's still solid. only people who are gonna complain about the mishima nerfs are the ones who skipped fundies and relied on gimmicks
whats RFS mean in notations
right flamingo stance
has there ever been a tekken stage that like in a public or private building then you blast through the wall and you are like in the street kicking ass?
The waffle House stage has yet to be made, sadly (not that I'm aware of)
There's a Mall stage in T4 and a fight pit in T5. No blasting through walls though
I think the tomato festival stage in 6 has a wallbreak?
Might be confusing it with another stage
Real actually.
This move has no fucking merit
0
It is only natural in heat (which wallsplats granted)
Without it
It puts you into an unforgiveable RPS if your opponent tries to option select you with a sidestep, sidestep jab, sidestep duck (even if he is +4, he gets put in Left Flamingo in which he is extremely linear and his fastest move is a 13f high that doesn't even give any reward)
Compared to his other moves 4,3 without heat just gets him killed for little to no reward
For example, RFS 3~4 is a 16f -3 on block mid-mid airborne string that wallspats and knockdowns.
At -3 you can still sidestep a lot of characters pointblank and continue your pressure with a CH launcher sidestep 3,3 or CH launcher sidestep 4, jab strings or newly added high crushing dark halberd.
RFS DF4 is a mid that counter hit launches and is +1 on block (spaced out so that Hwoarangs first jab whiffs if you don't mash into him)
Both of these moves put you into your neutral stance (LFF) so that you can start playing small tekken
In contrast I do not see the reason to let hwoarang have that move other than a cheap knowledge check and a terrible implication that if you duck his LFS 3,4 (mid,high) you have to be very quick about punishing him so that you don't eat RFS 4,3.
In conclusion it's a stupid move that makes an stupidly absurd exercise on the knowledge exam of the character
Also the 125 dmg 8f counterhit is right there.
sheesh
I AM BACK TO TEKKEN
And a Lars main now
holy shit
most unga marisa returns
wrong luna nvm


My reaction to the first sentence. And my reaction to the second sentence
Sowwy
Lars is too cool and fun
Don't be lol. Play whoever you find cool, fun, cute etc.
Yeah, I'm liking stance into stance into stance a bit too much
Wavu into wavu into free heat
Tekken 4 Streets - Mall
@stark salmon first set of the week for me and I get these black fucking dots again
time to clean your ps
I cleaned it the end of April
That's not good
clean caches. Turn the power off and hold the power button for 30 sec
I did that and it worked. Hasn't happened in quite a while
I am tired of trying to find tekken info in character discords, on youtube, and resorting to reddit and even tumblr and being met with a smattering of useful information in a flood of negativity that has been ongoing for more than a decade now.
I cannot comprehend why the tekken community by and large is like this. it makes me sad.
unironicly, some people dont want to share tech
like, there was a korean streamer who got flamed for telling westerners counter play
Disappointing.
Well starting off the state balance for the latest instalment of the franchise was fine, with few outliers that were to be considered. People were mostly ok before the balance team decided to shit on their plate just to appease the casuals. This backfired horribly. They were already complaining about the nature of mixups, the "defensive" patch that ended up being unga bunga 50/50 gg ez didn't help at all.
Other than that very predatory anticonsumer practices
"Yes I did put in the microtransaction shop 6 months after launch so the game sells"
"No, you see that one map isn't free, you have to buy it"
"Here's a sticker you can only use once, here's 400 of them"
"Yes, you will have to pay for imported clothing from previous games"
"No, you can't pay in real money, you have to buy our tekken coins first"
"No you can't collect tekken coins on normal basis, only from the battlepass, which by itself has a normal and a premium version filled with slop"
Personally I've played Hwoarang, Victor and Dragunov so feel free to ask about any of those.
I would never defend the microtransaction stuff but the negativity has been going since well before that began and extends well past it is the main thing to me,
and I think like, yeah, no, this current patch kinda sucks overall for sure, and I'm not defending it, but you wouldn't be able to tell a difference in if a guide was made this patch vs last patch vs in tekken 7 sight unseen with how pervasive the overwhelmingly negative attitude seems to be in the community at large
to be clear I'm not saying you're the problem, Rogue. It's that after going to a ton of different servers and they're all basically saying the exact same things, and then looking up older stuff to confirm my suspicion (that they've just always been like this) and easily doing so, and comparing resources from last season, vs tekken 7, it's just so damned draining
I appreciate the offer! I've got the quasi-plan to eventually at least get an understanding of the whole cast but for the time being a friend of mine whipped out asuka and whupped my ass, and I wanna learn her because worst case I learn how to beat her, yaknow? before them I hadn't to my memory fought an asuka that knows how to play the game or really the character because lol I'm in green ranks and haven't found any asuka players from a matchmaking ping etc.
Understanding the whole cast is gonna take a while
Understanding how to fight them or as them?
Personally I play most of the Mishima’s, Jack, Paul and Dragunov
Snake is a Leroy player iirc
Near is a Kazama player iirc
Deebo is also a Mishima player I think?
for resources, check pins. I have included resources links.
As for Koreans, that is a thing for god knows how long. To have an advantage in tournaments, they train hard and share info only to themselves. However, some do share them on twitter.
Last but not least, make tekken replay a good use. Find people’s Tekken ID, Wavu Rank, follow them in game and watch their games. Thats how I learn Jun
I do play mostly Jun/Jin but have Asuka experience. Furthermore, I also can play Reina,Kazuya. You can ask me or us if you need help
thank you!!
I want to learn the very basic ground floor concepts behind their gameplan, and that will then let me narrow down an actual main or 2 lmao
i.e. "Xiaoyu wants to be dodging your shit, has a bunch of ways to do that"
I can read a list all I want but it's better IMO to feel it
as far as the time investment that doesn't put me off; once the slew of patches slows down I'll be jumping in with the goal of "know how to be pretty alright at this game when tekken 9 releases"
Actually that’s only half of Xiaoyu’s plan
She has extremely strong mixups and oki
Though her weakness is she might be the single most stubby character in the game
We can make it bros
GETTING THERE
Rn?
I can do some matches, I think
I just got home so I'm free
OK!
It's been way too long man
I missed fighting you
If you've got time tight now sure. If not. We'll play some other time
I'm a lot stronger now
Been getting coaching
LMAO
Looks like you're stronger than before.
@reef geyser ggs
GGs!
I was at the Matchmaking chat
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@stark salmon gotta be nice to Leroy today /s
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I would say this one.
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Is wr4 df2 an alternate for b2, 4 for two hit tornadoes?
yeah, in that situation the b2, 4 would've dropped
wr4 df2 gives the same oki though
I will tell you a better idea.
f4, db4 df3,2.
If they stay on the ground ff4 instead of df3,2 charge
but beautiful pressure and play.
I will play you @obtuse nexus sometime. I need to check Kaz in s2
noted, good looking out bro
and I'm down man, usually play on the weekends
They ran t7 at my local today. Was a fun time
W
Bamboozling people with Xiaoyu is quickly becoming my favorite thing in T8 right now
Now I just gotta learn to play her in general
I lowkey wanna learn a waifu
thinking jun or ass sucka
Asuka sucks but jun is fun.
I'd legit wait until this early June balance patch
Jun gonna get kneecapped
get this of MIA 1+2's homing properties and reduce Install's capabilities.
and she will be fine
Add Ss4 not being +6 ob too
If Leroy can't have a Ss mid that's +5 on block in forced stance Jun can't have a +6 ob Ss mid that leaves her point blank in neutral
nah, she needs one pressure move. She needs it.
you have better tools in neutral. I have reversals.
Then make it a high. Idc
Are you counting B3 and can cans as reversals?
no im counting GEN, Sabaki and Normal Parries are reversals
and I cannot "HOLD" them unlike Asuka
Are we comparing Jun to Leroy or Asuka?
Yes, I'm comparing their movesets and archetypes.
Omw to the top
I thought she was pretty strong rn
I hate Moonsault with a passion but Knee disagrees lol
https://x.com/VolSkimmer/status/1925118062023569865?t=doaBoarsK4roQxLDP4spzA&s=19
Alisa and Asuka are boring to play. I would also say Clive as well but community does not like these 3 characters
Boring doesn’t equal bad though
GOAT #2 has spoken
🎵 You about to get this (validation of your character) 🎵
I AM DOING GOOD!!!!!!
This is totally random and like, a week late, but why were people thinking Bruce might have been the next dlc character? It seemed pretty certain that Josie had taken his spot in 7, and she's already been hinted at in the NY stage
Not to shit on them for trying to manifest, just surprised he was brought up
ss electric getting better
people love to press after blocking ff3 so a quick back dash electric or ss electric are great options
That screenshot goes hard holy fuck
HachiMania running wild, brother
Honorary Leroy T7 theme for that one
That type of pride ain't good for your health
wait ws 1+2 does not give you a knockdown anymore?!
I always thought it was ch knockdown
They haven’t changed it, knocks down on ch
maybe I remember wrong. 😔
I now am the proud owner of t7
if you are on Pc, set emulators
idk what that means
Probably meant get emulators
I’m assuming he’s gonna encourage you to play 5:DR and TTT2
yes
Was that shown at combo breaker
My favorite mishima is finally back
I'm gonna learn Fahk just to Fahk with people
same, looks fun
this wave of dlc looks promising
only one I was interested in last season was hei
what happened to claudio in the last few patches? i swear on release he was bottom tier but now i see him in top 8 all the time
ARMOR KING
nah we need marduk
First character for S3
Can't start off S3 with hype
Gotta recreate this for S3
Silence Season 1 Tekken King!
A Garyu has spoken!
Although to his credit, I did hit this absolutely ridiculous combo
Was hiding one and a third devil Jin/Jack pokes away, deserved
If only Leroy had a gun
Name it Spice
Also I forgot, devil jin has long as pokes, right? Or I'm I just misremembering him fucking flying at you from full screen
You're right. UF1 Mourning Crow
Okay, cool
Been forever since I've seen a Devil Jin in tourney's or the vids I watch lol
Old heads started fighting outside of Popeyes and broke out some crackhead karate 😂
Motherfucker went into AOP there lol
My man was doing Lei stances into AOP
Jack wanted that power crush something fierce
Is that fucking Bobobobo
Probably
LMAO
I just realized there's a balance update less than 48 hours from now
At launch, I did a Baiken Jun.
Pretty sure I have a May costume for Asuka too

no play tekken



