#Tekken General

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golden kettle
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I'm actually so sad

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I guess balance patch is what is gonna keep me interested

finite bridge
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I’m perfectly happy w/ Reina tbh

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Love the character

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lot of awesome characters in the base roster too that I’m interested in too

golden kettle
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I mean yeah? But I suppose I'm simply not interested in ranked anymore

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Steve is just a feels bad atm

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Especially for the amount of effort I've put towards him

finite bridge
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Ranked in Tekken is just ass

golden kettle
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Claudio is honestly fine, I'm just a bit bored of him

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And Lars is fun. But that's it really, I'm not motivated to play him much either

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I could get him to purple ranks I suppose but... Eh

finite bridge
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I’m stoked to see the game develop

golden kettle
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Yeah, the future is definitely good because the game is fun at the end of the day

finite bridge
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Evo Japan next week let’s go!

golden kettle
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Same with SF. I just wish to see some changes soon

finite bridge
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SF I don’t have a character that makes me want to play the game really

golden kettle
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Yeah that's fair. That's kind of this game for me really

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I was more motivated to hit purple than to play a character

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Aside from Steve

finite bridge
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I’m hitting purple (picking Reina on the character select screen)

golden kettle
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Lol

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Bro Miguel would have been so cool in this gameeeeee

golden kettle
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So many dead characters in this game that are wasting slots

finite bridge
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One of the first tekken characters to love her father

plucky sky
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I hate she took my mains slot

finite bridge
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It’s Kazuya’s fault

golden kettle
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I hate that Asuka and Jun are separate characters

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Panda and Kuma are separate characters

finite bridge
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I wish Asuka was not in the game 😈

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I want them to add like a Shaolin type fighter

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Kinda like Lei Fei from VF

plucky sky
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I don't think it would go over well

golden kettle
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Yeah but we've got Jun

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Better Asuka

plucky sky
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Jun isn't a traditional Kazama anymore

golden kettle
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She certainly keeps a lot of the trademark stuff

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But now with jesus powers

plucky sky
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It'd be like removing Kazuya and just going

golden kettle
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I only believe Asuka in this game because Lily needs a companion

plucky sky
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"Oh Reina's in the game, she's just dodges too"

golden kettle
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Kind of like how goten is a thing because kid trunks needed a buddy

finite bridge
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🤡

golden kettle
finite bridge
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My son who art in heaven will always do rage art and be advantageous

plucky sky
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Yeah, neither do Asuka or Jun

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They both use the same martial art

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But they have different gameplans

golden kettle
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Jun just has more stuff

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Asuka's gimmick is whatever

plucky sky
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Asuka doesn't really have a gimmick outside her install thing

golden kettle
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Exactly

plucky sky
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Her moveset is just Jun's old one

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Before TTT2

golden kettle
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Exactlyyy

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Why is she here then

plucky sky
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Because they're different movesets

golden kettle
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Jun does what Asuka does anyway but more

plucky sky
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It's like T2 Kazuya and Heihachi

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Loads of similar moves

finite bridge
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when does Robo heihachi drop

golden kettle
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B3, the low spinny kick thing, parries, the high crush launcher, etc etc

plucky sky
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But they have completely different properties and gameplans

golden kettle
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I know Asuka is on the defensive side because her frame data is kinda wack. While Jun has significantly better moves and frame data to work with

plucky sky
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Asuka's really good at defensive and when she's up in your face

golden kettle
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Jun's good everywhere

finite bridge
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They should add Luke from streets

plucky sky
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But they both have different niche's

golden kettle
plucky sky
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Actually it's more like Kazuya and Devil Jin

golden kettle
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Sandblast

plucky sky
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Cause Devil Jin is a Kazuya clone

golden kettle
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Tbh, I'm not a fan of that either

plucky sky
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I mean

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They're both completely different characters now

golden kettle
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But Devil Jin does do a lot of Devil Jin stuff

plucky sky
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They have been since 5

golden kettle
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So I'll allow it

finite bridge
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I wouldn’t say this is a good comparison

golden kettle
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Asuka's place when Jun wasn't around made sense to me. Especially with her whole lily story arc going on

plucky sky
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But originally, Jin (AKA now Devil Jin) had Kazuya's T2 moveset with some unique stuff

finite bridge
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Even T3 Jin is diff to what Kazuya became in other games

golden kettle
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But with Jun back, it feels like Asuka is only here because lily is

plucky sky
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T3 Jin is just Kazuya with some unique stuff tbf

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Same how Asuka in 5 is Jun with some unique stuff

finite bridge
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He’s Kaz and Jun

plucky sky
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He only has like

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2 Kazama moves

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ss2 and 1+3

finite bridge
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They’re a big part of his whole thing tho

golden kettle
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My point is, why are we having such similar characters in base roster

finite bridge
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I wouldn’t say he’s just Kazuya

plucky sky
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He's really damn close

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ss2 is probably the biggest difference imo

golden kettle
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Panda especially annoys me because they used to be the same no matter what but now we have Kuma who's actually just straight up better than panda in every way

finite bridge
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I wouldn’t even reference tekken 2 or 1 tbh

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Compared to T3 and on those games like really don’t have that much to do w/ what tekken became

plucky sky
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But 112, 122, 22, EWGF, TGF, uf4444, db4, b2 and ws12 are all iconic Kazuya mvoes and Jin had them all in 3

finite bridge
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The shells of a lot of the characters are there, but the game is not played the game it’s not even a really uniquely 3D game like how 3D fighters developed

plucky sky
finite bridge
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Sure yeah

plucky sky
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But like Kazuya hasn't really changed much over the years

finite bridge
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T8 prolly one of the bigger changes to the character

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but he’s not remarkably that incredibly different in gameplan or identity

plucky sky
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Eh it doesn't add too much

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New ff2, install that changes some properties, new cancel from 31, new b2 string, new df3+4 2, db12

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Can't think of too much newer things

finite bridge
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Devil fist is huge for him imo

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But it’s not like

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OH MY GOD THEY CHANGED KAZUYA

golden kettle
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You can't really fuck around with legacy legacy characters in Tekken

plucky sky
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Kazuya is pretty much the only legacy legacy character

golden kettle
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Tekken sorta prides itself on being a legacy game. If you know how to play Kaz in T5, you'll have a good idea how to play him in 8

golden kettle
plucky sky
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They both changed a lot

golden kettle
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And Kuma

plucky sky
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Kuma is a completely different character to old Kuma

golden kettle
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I guess he's technically not the same Kuma

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He's Kuma jr

plucky sky
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Like hunting stance didn't become a thing in mainline games until 4

finite bridge
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King is the same way

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I think reg Jin has developed greatly over the years compared to how he started in T4

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there’s not that much legacy tied to him tho, he was a break in legacy

plucky sky
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He's probably gonna be more legacy in 9 though lmao

finite bridge
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I honestly how they just change him back to how the T7 variant worked

golden kettle
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Bruh I'm gonna be old as shit when 9 comes out

finite bridge
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T7 jin was the coolest

golden kettle
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I might get to play Miguel by that point

finite bridge
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T8 jin is okay but I like T7 Jin way way way way more

golden kettle
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T7 Jin was an advanced level character

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That is not the case in this game

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I do think T8 Jin looks really damn cool tho. His animations and new moves look fantastic

finite bridge
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he’s easier but idk if he’s as good at all really

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T7 Jin had better drip

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Wish they let us put the hood up on T8 Jin

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I’d buy that on tekken shop

golden kettle
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T8 Jin is really good tho

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Maybe not obnoxiously good but still very good

finite bridge
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Def not as good as T7 Jin

plucky sky
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This outfit sucks ass

golden kettle
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Isn't the hood an outfit already?

finite bridge
finite bridge
plucky sky
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Like why is he wearing leather trousters with a leather hoodie and armoured arms???

golden kettle
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Nah I'm inclined to side with Welsh on this one. The hood is dorky

plucky sky
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This shit goes mild af

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It's trying way too hard to be cool

finite bridge
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Nah he looks raw

plucky sky
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Also definitely trying too hard to envoke Tekken 4 vibes

golden kettle
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I wanna see the sasuke hair

finite bridge
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T4 fit looks so shitty in T8 imo, idk what it is

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That’s a like top 5 Jin outfit

plucky sky
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Tekken 8 Jin is actually wearing clothes someone would wear

golden kettle
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Rocky Balboa Jin

finite bridge
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I don’t think there’s that much difference just in the type of clothes, the proportions of the outfit are very similar

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That being said

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Let me put the hood up

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They gave it to Reina

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Give it to Jin

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They even drew it on the character portrait

golden kettle
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T8 customisation in general is an L

plucky sky
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Also I really love the Oni trousers

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Fire is a classic but the Oni looks really good

finite bridge
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the Oni is GODLIKE

golden kettle
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Reina is the best newcomer

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Victor would be cool without the goofy ass sword

plucky sky
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I think this is a top 2-3 Jin outfit

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Surprised they didn't add that tbh

plucky sky
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Guy raged on me, had streaming in his title

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Checked and yeah

obtuse nexus
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Good shit dawg lmao

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“Fucking mishima’s man” while playing alisa is crazy

cloud yoke
finite bridge
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@plucky sky at the barber shop

finite bridge
golden kettle
wintry dagger
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Because Panda has more story relevancy than Miguel in T8

golden kettle
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Panda is looking for Jin I suppose

wintry dagger
golden kettle
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Bro has a shaved head and likes meditation

wintry dagger
golden kettle
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Yeah but it's range is huge and it rips his hurt box out of thin air

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And it fucking hurts

obtuse nexus
golden kettle
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And in heat it does 63 damage lmao. That's deadass Steve B1 damage

wintry dagger
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<@&1003661073049722891> who wants to play while I relearn Lili

golden kettle
solid stirrup
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Turns into Spanish Walter White

golden kettle
wintry dagger
golden kettle
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Man, to think I'll have to wait over a year to get him at least

solid stirrup
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His grand plan is to get Jin hooked on Crystal Meth and get him to od

wintry dagger
golden kettle
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Poor Helios waited for like nearly 3-4 years for Elphelt

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Idk if I have that kind of patience tho lmao. If Miguel doesn't come soon I'm likely gonna stop playing

wintry dagger
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I'm still waiting for Dizzy

golden kettle
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Yeah I lucked out with Strive

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Sin and Baiken came out immediately. I didn't care about anyone else

wintry dagger
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I lucked out with Nago being so badass

golden kettle
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Hell I lucked out with SF too! Ed was S1

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So I guess my luck was bound to run out

wintry dagger
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Manon was love at first sight

obtuse nexus
golden kettle
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Tbh, I did have characters I enjoyed in all those games to keep me afloat

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I'm not certain I have someone like that in this game

wintry dagger
solid stirrup
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Main character mains when they get in the game

golden kettle
wintry dagger
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I never seriously played SF before 6 but Cammy and Vega were always my favorites.

I knew Cammy was practically guaranteed

golden kettle
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However... Tekken doesn't quite work like that

wintry dagger
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I'm just happy Leroy was launch in T8

obtuse nexus
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There will always be a mishima in tekken so I can never complain

golden kettle
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Between Claudio and Miguel I could have bet the house Miguel would have made it over him

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I've literally picked up Lars so I can avoid disappointment in future series lmao

obtuse nexus
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Been seeing a lot of lars in purple ranks

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That buff must be why

golden kettle
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Ignorant ass buff

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Now don't get me wrong, I don't think this exactly buffs Lars into OP territory. It's just an ignorant change

obtuse nexus
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I actually don’t mind lars tbh

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This buff just wasn’t needed

golden kettle
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I don't either

obtuse nexus
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He was solid

golden kettle
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But we play him so...

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Lmao

obtuse nexus
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Lmao yeah man

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Would be hate to be on the receiving end

golden kettle
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Yeah, going up against a character you main so easy

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Like my win rate against Steve is like 90% regardless the character

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Same for Claudio. Although it's 100% because I've only faced like 4

obtuse nexus
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Playing a kaz or a devil jin feels like fighting my ghosts lmao

golden kettle
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I suppose it's different for Kaz especially because you may know what Kaz does but 50/50 is a 50/50

obtuse nexus
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I just ask myself when I get knocked down “what would I do”

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Works 90% of the time

golden kettle
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I just want Miguel back so I can poke people to death again

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That's what I'm good at. The slow game

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Claudio kind of does that but he's got no good lows to use

obtuse nexus
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People with slow play styles always smoke me because I’m impatient as fuck

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Good strategy

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I get poked, get frustrated and do something reckless

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Gg

golden kettle
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Funnily enough, fighting someone overly aggressive is the end for me

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Because getting stuck in a DVJ Oki loop is hell for me

obtuse nexus
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Guess wrong and eat a 15 second combo

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You should see the messages I have received while playing dj on ranked

golden kettle
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I don't have it on but I must have forgot to turn it off

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But I did once get a "why you spam WR2" when I was playing Claudio

cloud yoke
obtuse nexus
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Happiest tekken player

wintry dagger
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I got more hate mail playing Kaz than the rest of my characters

cloud yoke
cerulean turtle
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No way a leroy player

wintry dagger
finite bridge
finite bridge
winged karma
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steve top 4 we chilling i promise trust

golden kettle
real field
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instead watched a video and decided to try out steve online.

after several pretty brutal losses which I expected, I achieved the most galaxy-brain victory ever by simply identifying what my opponent was doing that kept beating the options I was picking, and doing what beat that choice.

It was. an effective strategy, culminating in this final round where they still didn't adjust!

https://youtu.be/hpScIYyC1qc

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(they kicked on assist mode after I beat them in the third round)

golden kettle
golden kettle
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Ehhhhh sure lmao

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However, if you want any Steve help. I'll gladly do it for you

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Also @winged karma is a resident Steve main

real field
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I'm currently working on steve and reina :D

I've heard a lot of people say steve is bad or not as good as before or w/e but let me tell you as someone who played mikoto in blazblue CF and (briefly) akihiko in p5a, steve is VERY COOL and fun and I adore how it feels to pilot him

golden kettle
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He's a lot of hard work tho, so be prepared for a lot of notes

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This sheet should get you started

real field
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much appreciated!

golden kettle
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Truly the WR character

golden kettle
stark salmon
golden kettle
stark salmon
obtuse nexus
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He has the big boss vibes I loved
So I was sad when I heard he died in 7
STILL
We got Reina instead
And so I am super happy with it

solid stirrup
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Main character fans stay winning

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Even when they lose

rigid mortar
golden kettle
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These players have mastered the true Tekken way

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And now T8 has thrown a wrench in their gameplans so the OGs are struggling

finite bridge
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T8 literally made the way it was because Knee and Arslan play so defensively in T7

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Harada and Murray have said this (w/o naming Knee and Arslan directly)

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Makes sense the guy whose playstyle the game was built to be the opposite of isn’t that much of a fan at the moment

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that isn’t to say the game is perfect rn… it definitely isnt 😂😂😂😂😂😂

ember portal
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Defensive play is boring

rigid mortar
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forced 50/50 is boring

finite bridge
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Bob rizzing up Julia

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He can be in Tekken 8 now, go off goat

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Charming ass white boy

rigid mortar
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julia is already spoken for

plucky sky
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Isn't this like

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SFxT or something

finite bridge
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They should make Julia and Armor King tag team canon

rigid mortar
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by my goat ganryu

finite bridge
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Like in Tag 2 intro

finite bridge
rigid mortar
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shes just tsundere

finite bridge
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he’s just ass bro 😂😂😂😂

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Doesn’t have half the charisma and soul this boy bob does

rigid mortar
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ganryu would be good with the toxic heat nature of tekken 8

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they should bring him back

plucky sky
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Bring him back for all 3 players to play him

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Ganryu is probably one of the lamest characters tbh

obtuse nexus
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Fax

golden kettle
rigid mortar
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i think ganryu is the coolest looking character in 7

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his outfit is god like

plucky sky
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Also I don't think most characters get a forced 50/50

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Not a good one anyway

plucky sky
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King gets one because he's a bit overtuned

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Uhh

rigid mortar
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some of you guys have no appreciation for the monk aesthetic and it shows

plucky sky
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Kazuya gets one off of heat dash, but it's Kazuya

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Him breathing is a 50/50

golden kettle
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Lars has one

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After DE3

plucky sky
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Oh no

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20 damage low

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Into Lars pressure

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Oh no

golden kettle
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Tbf it's a CH launcher

plucky sky
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No one's mashing after DE3 anymore

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I hope not anyway

golden kettle
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That is a lie and a half

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I'm halfway through red ranks with Lars and mfs stay mashing

plucky sky
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Teach me the ways of Lars

golden kettle
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I just do the mid and it always works

plucky sky
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Haircut aside

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He seems sick

golden kettle
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He is sick

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I've changed his haircut anyway

plucky sky
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Damn

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Already got to the corner before actually fucking getting the screw

golden kettle
golden kettle
plucky sky
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The Lee still doesn't break lmao

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Like that throw was fucking scheduled

golden kettle
plucky sky
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In his calendar and everything

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And he still misses it

golden kettle
plucky sky
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Yeah

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You can still tech

golden kettle
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No one expects tbf, it's a bit of cheese but it never fails me

plucky sky
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You can't tech during recovery, but during active and startup frames, you can

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Got any Lars guides though?

golden kettle
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Um, yeah actually. Depending on how long you want it

plucky sky
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Any length

golden kettle
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I don't actually like these hour long guides because they give me a headache

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@plucky sky

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This is the best one by far

golden kettle
wintry dagger
wintry dagger
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My one unofficial obligatory WiFi match is done

obtuse nexus
wintry dagger
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Or Nina

obtuse nexus
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Fuck Eddy
Omfg

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What an annoying character

wintry dagger
obtuse nexus
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Tired of bro being on my main menu

wintry dagger
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I miss main menu Kaz

obtuse nexus
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Me too tbh

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We should choose who stays there

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I'd love shirtless Hwoarang there

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How tf is NOONE under red ranks?

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Besides Eddy ofc.
Lots of Beginner Eddies

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I can't deny, this shit is making me get pissed at Tekken
I can't find anyone online that is less than red rank or playing Eddy

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Now a Purple King

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Idek how I stole a round

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Ok
I am at the very bottom of Yellow ranks
Can't even lose points anymore

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And I haven't had a single honestly good match today
Only got completely washed by people with way higher ranks than me or fucked by Eddy's weird ass strings

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Oh shit
You CAN get demoted back to Green

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I just did

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At least now I can't lose points anymore
Lmao

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Finally
An opponent my rank
A Green Lars who got promoted to yellow 2-0ing me
I'm very salty rn

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Will be back later

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LMAO

wintry dagger
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@obtuse nexus you playing Reina or Alisa when you fight Eddy? Or both

obtuse nexus
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I am not playing anyone other than Reina these days

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I think I'll just watch again the Tekken 101 tutorials and go over the basics
I must be doing some shit

wintry dagger
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What Eddy strings are giving you trouble? Handstand strings? Sitting strings? Or neutral

obtuse nexus
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I'll be honest
I don't even know
I just know that everytime he hits anything, I feel like I have to guess between lows and mids and lose half my health if I guess wrong

wintry dagger
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@obtuse nexus i just did Eddy's punishment training as Reina and... damn

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TIL reina has an 11 frame punisher

obtuse nexus
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Ok
I'm thinking seriously about taking a break from Reina and going for Alisa or Hwoarang, cuz I've seen people say those two can carry you far while Mishimas are for people who already know basic Tekken
Which I don't

wintry dagger
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You can play Alisa Unga

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Hwo can be played unga too, but not immediately

cloud yoke
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Yeah you need to lab strings

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With that being said you need to do that with every other character

wintry dagger
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You have to make your own unique flowchart with Hwo

cloud yoke
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There ain't no "unique" flowchart

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You mash buttons in order like everybody does

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Hwoarang just has more flowcharts

cerulean turtle
obtuse nexus
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I'm too stubborn to just give up on Reina tho
I do love Alisa and Hwo, but Reina is first in my heart

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I do want those as secondaries tho

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Sticking with reina is worth it

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You’ll go far with her just takes a little time

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Thxxxxx
It does
Prob would be faster if SF6 and FF7 weren't on the way
Lol

wintry dagger
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Ended a wifi King's 11 win streak

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There was no rematch

obtuse nexus
stark salmon
wintry dagger
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@stark salmon idk about you but the amount of blue rank and higher players with absolutely no defense is starting to annoy me

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That wifi Lars had like 50 defense too

cloud yoke
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Sounds like easy pickings then, what's the annoyance ?

stark salmon
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you ll see the difference

wintry dagger
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And I've had mixed results with PC players

stark salmon
wintry dagger
obtuse nexus
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I don’t think blocking stops you from running into them

wintry dagger
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It does

obtuse nexus
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Oh wow

wintry dagger
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Auto declines when in matchmaking training accord to one of those tekken talks

obtuse nexus
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Thought it just stopped them from being able to communicate with you

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Crazy

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Fought a fujin drag with like 40 defense

fickle fulcrum
golden kettle
cloud yoke
obtuse nexus
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Still got tears in my eyes

rigid mortar
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i actually saw the context of that like 3 days ago

wintry dagger
golden kettle
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Good ol' heat smash tracking

stark salmon
obtuse nexus
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Just double perfected a tekken god supreme

wintry dagger
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@stark salmon you playing right now?

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Or anyone playing?

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<@&1003661073049722891>

austere stump
wintry dagger
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@austere stump you on Playstation or PC?

austere stump
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PS

wintry dagger
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@austere stump what's your PSN?

stark salmon
wintry dagger
stark salmon
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@wintry dagger almost in my games im dealing these incidents

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and the moment i find an one good decent fcking game

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One and Done

cloud yoke
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Can we get a local Kazyua main to shed some light on this case ?

wintry dagger
obtuse nexus
cloud yoke
# obtuse nexus How tf do I avoid this reset

I have a feeling that steve mashed on 0:12 when the slide hit him and reset, with that being said you can probably tech roll that or just get hit on the ground and then get up

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Also I think that heatsmash pickup was fraudulent as fuck

stark salmon
finite bridge
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Lebron can’t do SHIT

obtuse nexus
wintry dagger
obtuse nexus
obtuse nexus
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Idk if that is true or not
But today, I only faced people in green and yellow
Just fought one Orange Jin
But that is all
I have not fought any red ranks today, and I find that GREAT tbh

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It's good to have your ass kicked bad from time to time
But only fighting reds and purples in ranked when you're yellow is a bit demotivating

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I'd rather keep those royal ass beatings to casuals
Lol

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But it's my opinion
Have y'all felt anything different today?

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First Eddy today...

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Fuck you Eddy...
Fuck you...

cloud yoke
obtuse nexus
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Makes sense
I'll try doing it instead of just trying to block everything

obtuse nexus
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Back to Assailant
I am happy

obtuse nexus
# obtuse nexus https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/doLgql9qtD

I don't really know what to think of this, cuz Idk how things are for y'all up there
But really, things are MUCH MUCH better in low ranks

The game is so much more fun now
Facing lots of different characters I had never faced before
Lee, Victor, Leo and even Azucena

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And I just wasn't forced to face any Red or Purple Ranks yet, which makes the fights I'm having MUCH closer and more fun
I feel like I improved a lot today
And I'm feeling happy

wintry dagger
real field
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making an eddie player ragequit because he ate too many lows is my favorite tekken experience so far

cloud yoke
wintry dagger
solid stirrup
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I didn't even see him lol

wintry dagger
wintry dagger
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This was the last straw for me

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Fuck quick match im going back to ranked only

finite bridge
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Ranked only is crazy

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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But playing against this Brian reinforced my theory that Leroy fundamentally screws with your opponents muscle memory

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@stark salmon any idea why Victor's WR2 isn't mentioned in the same category as Azucena's WR23?

A +5 on block mid that chips is cracked

solid stirrup
finite bridge
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Anybody tryna run some in tekken ?????

wintry dagger
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@finite bridge I'm free

finite bridge
wintry dagger
finite bridge
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Wanna go in the other bracket part thing or the room

wintry dagger
finite bridge
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One of the only really cool parts abt the lobby system tbh

wintry dagger
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@finite bridge i am amazed that killed

finite bridge
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I was like goddamn

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The DAMAGE

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wanna do one more set?

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I gotta lab Leroy on my days off this week haha

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Gg’s dude!

wintry dagger
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@finite bridge ggs

finite bridge
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I need to learn a new combo idk why that one kept dropping on Leroy

wintry dagger
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@finite bridge if you're free tomorrow I'm picking up my stepson around lunch time

finite bridge
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I won’t be home til around like 5:30 ish cst but I’m game for the rematch

real field
stark salmon
brittle python
# finite bridge Ranked only is crazy

ngl bro I literally said this today, like might as well play ranked man cause you'll run into the same shenanigans on quick match.. lag, rage quitters, trolls, etc. At least I can get some points or whatever

ember portal
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alisa kinda fun ngl

plucky sky
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Azu’s issue was it tracked really well, and even if you did somehow manage to step it, she was unpunishable as she went really far on whiff

wintry dagger
# plucky sky It’s steppable though isn’t it?

In theory it should be but I'm not home to check right now. Kept getting clipped when I tried to sidestep last night though

Not sure if it was because 120 ping and 3 rollback frames. Or if its just hard to step in general

finite bridge
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All Moves having more range really makes the increased range on side step like not even matter

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Doesn’t make sense to me

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Like for the game seems like you should really pick one or the other

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I’d choose side steps being better tbh, and moves losing range

wintry dagger
stark salmon
# wintry dagger Yeah.

because Azu is hella hard to deal with. She can keep doing that next to wall and bring your HP to 1 with chip for free

plucky sky
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You can pretty consistently side walk it

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Either direction

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Assuming you're playing like Leroy or Lili or something

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And not Jack

wintry dagger
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So I go to pick up my stepson and when I get there he told me he convinced his dad to get Tekken 8 on Xbox. And I learned one thing today, I can't play Tekken on the Xbox controller. At all

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I did like two matches against his dad while waiting and the amount of accidental crouches I did while trying to simply sidestep/walk was way too high

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I only won just because I know Law's incredibly basic flow chart that revolves around jab string into d23 and the high kick strings

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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Bruh these queue times for ranked are ridiculous

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2 minutes and nothing

stark salmon
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6th lars game in a row

stark salmon
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lars or king

wintry dagger
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@stark salmon you wanna play? At least it won't be a lars or King lol

wintry dagger
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@stark salmon give me a minute gotta trash talk an Eddy that just plugged on me

stark salmon
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if he plugged he plugged he is a piece of shit

wintry dagger
# stark salmon nah dont

Bruh i waited 2 and a half minutes just to fight an Eddy who mashed 3 and plugged when i was about to win.

stark salmon
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i fought a King that does not know combos and backdash etc

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in Kishin

wintry dagger
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He's at least getting an "Lol yoy plugged" message

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Ohhh shit

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I matched with him again

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This time he didn't plug

stark salmon
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did you beat him

wintry dagger
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@stark salmon still want to play

wintry dagger
stark salmon
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Good

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otherwise you would have failed me

wintry dagger
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3-1

stark salmon
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Meanwhile Im beatint another Lars and he one and doned me

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Beat a Raven and answered every single bullshit he may pulloff

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One and Done lmao

wintry dagger
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And that first round i was pressing Leroy buttons with Lili and very confused

stark salmon
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Gonna make PS Tekken King and stop rank

wintry dagger
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I did get 1000 ranked points though

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Oh shit a Lars

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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Reminds me of that Xiaoyu with like a 40% rate

stark salmon
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@wintry dagger WTF was that Matterhorn?!

wintry dagger
wintry dagger
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@stark salmon last few games for me

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Gotta start making dinner soon

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@stark salmon ggs as always

stark salmon
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ggs

wintry dagger
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Wanna play my stepson?

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He'd probably quit after like one game

stark salmon
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sure i ll play

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send me an invite again

wintry dagger
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Will be amazed if he plays the whole set

stark salmon
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He is playing

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he did play lol

wintry dagger
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The whole set?

obtuse nexus
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My kid brother quits after one round lol

wintry dagger
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@stark salmon he said ggs and put my controller down

stark salmon
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Ggs

wintry dagger
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How'd he do lol

stark salmon
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But @wintry dagger talk to him. He is playing Azu

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It is heresy

wintry dagger
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Step

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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But then again he's 14...

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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Two are obvious

#3 is jiggle physics

And #4 is bikini outfit

stark salmon
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Man of Culture

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he needs to play the game on PC

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for mods

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@wintry dagger

wintry dagger
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He keeps asking for a PC ngl. Can easily go buy him one but nope. Momma said no

wintry dagger
woeful zealot
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@stark salmon would you be down to play the mirror sometime?

stark salmon
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Jun?

woeful zealot
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Yeah!

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I feel like I struggle with conversions, so watching you, playing you, should help

woeful zealot
stark salmon
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I just took a shower

woeful zealot
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ye

stark salmon
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booting my PC

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you are on PC right ?

woeful zealot
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yeah

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want me to send a steam code?

stark salmon
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put this on your web browser and you ll be in my lobby

wintry dagger
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Ran into him again and smoked him

winged karma
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love me some steve

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been playing him for 7 years

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balrog, ed

stark salmon
wintry dagger
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Remember when I kept jabbing you out of youre DVJ heat smash followup? I figured that out by jabbing Eddy out of some of his jumping strings

normal heart
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Hey all, i'm currently waiting for tekken 8 to finish downloading, any tips on choosing a character for someone that has never interacted with a tekken game?

rigid mortar
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play who you think looks cool

normal heart
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that was my only plan

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XD

rigid mortar
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yeah the game doesnt have archetypes that are traditional to 2d fighting games. best way to pick your main is first looking through who you think looks cool then deciding on out of those which buttons you like the best

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if you are a fighting nerd the characters have real life fighting styles so that makes some people pick certain characters too

normal heart
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ok, i was curious if archetypes existed in tekken cause i was curious how they'd implement it

rigid mortar
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they do but its different and not as big as a difference

normal heart
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gotcha

rigid mortar
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ill let someone else explain but the way i always looked at it are some character excel at 50-50, some at evasion and or whiff punishing, some characters are controlling the mid space, and then theres flying through the air with random bullshit

normal heart
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XD i see

rigid mortar
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then one character who is the coolest who defense is their offense but is bottom tier

normal heart
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damn

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i'm just here for some fun, i don't plan on trying to get very high level

normal heart
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is there a tutorial?

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i can't find it ;-;

rigid mortar
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sorry i know there is one but i dont know where it is

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might be arcade related or something

normal heart
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all i see is the arcade quest but i don't want to watch story to learn the game ;-;

wintry dagger
normal heart
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damn

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i'm gonna skip all the cutscenes

wintry dagger
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Its honestly not as bad as I thought it'd be

normal heart
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i just want to learn the game

wintry dagger
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@normal heart quick tekken 101 tips.

  1. Stand block is the preferred way to block. Mids hit crouch block.

  2. The fastest moves are 10 frame jabs.

  3. If you're looking for a specific archetype, King and Nina (imo) are the two best grapplers for example.

  4. Some characters like Paul, Nina, Mishimas (Kaz, Reina Jin and Devil Jin) have a special crouching dash that has a hadoken input. Paul and Nina even have a tatsu input special back sway. Each attack button does something different

  5. Watch your replays, even the ones you lose. If you block a punishable move and don't punish, the game will show you one one string to punish it. Or if you land a launcher but don't follow up, the game will show you a basic combo

normal heart
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i still don't even know who i'm gonna play XD

wintry dagger
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Pick whoever strikes you fancy.

normal heart
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that was my plan

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so is the entre arcade quest a tutorial?

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like should i play through it all since i know 0 about this game?

wintry dagger
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It wouldn't hurt

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And I don't know if the entire story is the tutorial. Only played enough to unlock ghost battles

normal heart
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ok, i'll keep at it then

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i thought there would be more battle system mechanics other than heat ngl

wintry dagger
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Nope. Just heat and Rage

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And rage is much more simple

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You get below like... 20% health and your life bar flashes red. You do slightly more damage (for example, a regular throw does 35 damage. Rage regular throw does 38 damage) you can also do a rage art, which is Kinda like a SF super. You lose rage for the rest of the round after a rage art, hit or miss

normal heart
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i'm doing that tutorial rn XD

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is there any reason not to do the easy inputs for rage and heat?

rigid mortar
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the important thing to learn is how blocking and attacks work cuz its different from 2d...and reading notations

normal heart
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also is d-pad a good way to play?

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or is stick better?

rigid mortar
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w/e your pref is

normal heart
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ok cool

normal heart
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what's asuka's playstyle?

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cause the one thing i played her in i liked her

rigid mortar
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i pretended she was tifa cuz her moves are tifa like. but shes a strong whiff punish character

normal heart
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i'm liking her even tho i have no idea what's happening XD

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man the combat in this game feels awesome

golden kettle
golden kettle
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Crazy

stark salmon
stark salmon
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or you can look at PhiDX's tutorial videos

plucky sky
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It basically teaches you

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You can heat burst and heat smash

wintry dagger
golden kettle
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B3 with a fury

cloud yoke
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Memes about tekken are allowed here, right ?

finite bridge
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I should play Hwoarang

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I love being +

cloud yoke
wintry dagger
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<@&1003661073049722891> anyone playing

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I've played 5 ranked matches so far

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3 kings and Alisa and a Shaheen

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I'm contemplating uninstalling the game ngl

cloud yoke
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When it comes to Alisa you gotta pull up your gimmicks game, they can barely play their own character

wintry dagger
cloud yoke
winged karma
winged karma
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kings just duck launch df2,1

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f2,1

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duck launch

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alisa ssl if i remember correct

cloud yoke
winged karma
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im in the middle ;--;

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not west

cloud yoke
winged karma
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theses no midwest opts

cloud yoke
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sad

finite bridge
finite bridge
obtuse nexus
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I’ve fought so many kings he’s no longer a problem

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The mu was beat into my skull

wintry dagger
finite bridge
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LOL

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Yeah like what’s the counterplay when Alisa gets u on block stun w/ Chainsaws out

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You gotta guess

cloud yoke
winged karma
obtuse nexus
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Alisa the tax collector

winged karma
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fujin

cloud yoke
finite bridge
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Money match

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😈

winged karma
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i dont complain on twitter

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i love t8

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ive been really enjoying the game and having tons of fun

dusk oar
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@olive siren

winged karma
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i also comentate the game

obtuse nexus
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As a casual I can say I love the game but if I played this shit for a living I’d be mad too lol

winged karma
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its really not that bad, its vaniilla so we just gotta give it time for them to cook

winged karma
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high level tekken knows the counter play to the moves

obtuse nexus
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Mmm

winged karma
cyan trout
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is he ducking??

obtuse nexus
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Shi he might be

cyan trout
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truly

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to be fair we're like an hour late to the matchmake ping

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10 minutes since he was here though

winged karma
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hes gone

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;--;

cyan trout
winged karma
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@dusk jolt

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@sudden sigil

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i just wanted games

cloud yoke
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Saaame

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But I pulled up to 2 new hate messages on my steam steam account and I thought that's enough spam for today

stark salmon
cloud yoke
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"Surely he wouldn't do an armored wavedash"
The cocaine induced input stream:

stark salmon
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Tbh rank means shit

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As for Alisa and King good fucking luck against them.

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When Alisa starts pressuring you with Chainsaw, you gotta pray that you ll read their high chainsaw so you can duck and launch

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or interrupt with something so they ll go back to neutral

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King on the otherwise, GOOD FUCKING LUCK

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Made him hella busted and he is a hella problem

winged karma
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king is good but hes got counter play. just the same as drag, both are issues for sure and i agree with ya with him being super overtuned

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df2,1 is busted af

stark salmon
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King is not good. He is fucking Busted. His low check move's range is bigger than Jin's ff 2

stark salmon
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You can be TK with King with just Throws and you ll be good

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Same with Azu and Same with Drag

stark salmon
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This game is not a 3D but Guilty Gear right now. One will pressure and the other person will block till he sees an opening so "learning the matchup" does not do that much 100%

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did not say you did say otherwise.

cloud yoke
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Oh boy...

winged karma
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well knowing when to duck in strings, along with the low parry vs low block scenario type stuff if we get into the nitty gritty

winged karma
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clown car casino

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but he always been that way

cerulean turtle
winged karma
cerulean turtle
stark salmon
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I saw Kishin Kings does not know backdash or combos

cloud yoke
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Throws are just stupidly busted in tekken 8

stark salmon
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then be clear please. Thought we were having a conversation.

winged karma
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my fault

winged karma
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like the only kings i really respect out in these streets are Jesandy and dr. TheJakeman

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plus lil majin but i havnt seen him compete yet

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saw riddum win paragonline with king and Shaheen last week

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Shaheen gotta be talked more about imo

stark salmon
winged karma
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^^^^

stark salmon
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Sending KiraKira to Losers

winged karma
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dude is next level

stark salmon
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Almost beating KingRey

winged karma
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dude kingrey

stark salmon
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remained Top 8

winged karma
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kids godlike

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on the oscar

stark salmon
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I know. I played with him a lot of times in Asuka mirror and always forcing him to final final round

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he does a bullshit move and kills me

winged karma
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the RA kingrey special dawg

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gets them everytime

stark salmon
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did you watch Electric Clash ?

winged karma
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ight i gotta get ready to cast i will catch yall around

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and yeah a lil bit imma watch top 8 tomorrow

stark salmon
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it was a great tournament. I could not do much because of my right wrist but did my best to help Canadians to be on the board

winged karma
#

you canada ?

stark salmon
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Yeap. Watch KiraKira vs TrippleAAA match. Before the third game, TrippleAAA got a coaching session. I was on the stage helping him to beat KiraKira

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Same for KingReyJr

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He almost beat him but KingRey did something I did not think too much. He took so many risks with d 1+2 which i did not count on.

normal heart
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my god i'm loving asuka

wintry dagger
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Well damn I missed some stuff. Looking back, yeah inadvertently ducked. Within minutes of my last message, got called back to work less than two hours after leaving due to idiots fighting and 911 being called

@winged karma I'll be down to play at some point this week. Likely won't be until at least Wednesday . I'll let you know

obtuse nexus
normal heart
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my first online match ever i won against a 51k power jin while i had 100 XD

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he then proceeded to 3-0 me two times

obtuse nexus
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Bro took it personal lol

normal heart
#

he did

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i just don't know enough to hold my own rn XD

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is 51k a lot for tekken?

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idk the top

obtuse nexus
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It’s up there

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Not too high

normal heart
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i figured they weren't the top level but idk the scale

obtuse nexus
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200k is the highest I’ve seen so far

normal heart
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so i'm like, almost there at 100 then

obtuse nexus
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Pretty much

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It racks up quick

normal heart
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man, i'm a god already

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i refuse to do any ranked right now

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i'll stay 100 for a while till i feel comfortable

obtuse nexus
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Ranked might be your best bet if you wanna play people your level

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Quick match is usually full of gods taking a break from ranked

wintry dagger
obtuse nexus
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My goat

normal heart
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i just wanted to try it out, i just want experience

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i'm still at the point where every time i press a button it feels different than the last time i pressed it

obtuse nexus
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That’s what happens when you have 1 million attacks at your disposal

wintry dagger
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@normal heart if you're playing right now I'm down to be like a training dummy lol

normal heart
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i am but genuinely i'm just button mashing with a few inputs i actually know

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i just need to learn some inputs

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i also need to work on a japanese project so i'll be a min

wintry dagger
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If not I'm perfectly fine with watching the Knicks

normal heart
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i just don't really know what i'm doing cause i don't know more than like 3 of my moves

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and that's cause i started yesterday XD

wintry dagger
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Who you using?

normal heart
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asuka, as soon as i played her i fell in love

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i tried a few characters and she clicked instantly

wintry dagger
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Have you pressed B3 yet?

normal heart
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yes

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quite a lot

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i was using it against that jin cause zyx told me about it

wintry dagger
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B3 is the closest thing to an EX DP tekken has

normal heart
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i see lol

obtuse nexus
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I’ve been smoked by it many times lmao

normal heart
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i also randomly hit these like, command grabs? in my spamming

wintry dagger
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We all have

normal heart
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and idk what they are or how to consistently do them

wintry dagger
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Every character has a universal tap_uf button_12 throw in addition to the two generic throws

normal heart
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it was a back input where she went like low and then grabbed the person and twisted their leg or something

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again idek how i inputted it so that's all i got XD

wintry dagger
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It sounds like B1 on counter hit ngl

normal heart
#

i wish i could tell you if it was

wintry dagger
normal heart
#

yes that

cloud yoke
stark salmon
stark salmon
normal heart
#

i'm a total beginner so i'm pretty lost

wintry dagger
normal heart
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i do have a question, in the one match i played there were times where my character would just walk backwards and i couldn't get her to move forward

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why does that happen?

stark salmon
normal heart
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i would do a big move and then my character would start walking backwards while i was holding forwards

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it might have just been because of the screen positioning or something but my character wouldn't move in the direction i was holding

wintry dagger
stark salmon
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this game has a lot of bugs unfortunately

normal heart
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it felt like my character got scared and was running away ngl XD

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so, what are some tips for a beginner? other than learn the inputs

normal heart
#

also is back 1 always a grab on asuka?

rigid mortar
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isnt that parry

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grab should be 2+4 and 1+3

normal heart
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wait that's not 1

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sorry my buttons act like an xbox controller but i have a switch controller so the buttons don't line up correctly

rigid mortar
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no that only grabs on counter hit

normal heart
#

oooohhh

rigid mortar
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she has a couple of those

normal heart
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yeah i forgot i had the opponent be in the counter hit state last night

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thank you, that makes a lot more sense

rigid mortar
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U2 i think is a counter hit grab

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it was my favourite round starter

normal heart
#

what's U2 mean?

rigid mortar
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up 2

normal heart
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oh yeah i like that move too

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i'm just in training spamming all the normals trying to get them down better rn

rigid mortar
#

let me look at my notes to give you some of her important buttons

normal heart
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i know of B3

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that's about it

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i'm also still learning the notation so

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also how come holding a direction while grabbing makes me just hug them and then let go?

rigid mortar
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so her 15 frame is down forward2 (DF2), and her best whiff punish button is F2( forward 2) and is 17 frames
her 10 frame is 1,3
1+2 is really strong against people who crouch
down back 1,2 is a high crush (DB1,2)
down 3+4(D3+4) is her can can or upkicks
f1+2(forward 1+2) is a armored reversal and i think its a heat engager
side step 2 (SS2) is an amazing side step whiff punish button
her snake edge is down forward 3+4(DF3+4)
F4 (forward 4) is tracking for people who side step

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hope these are all right i cant double check

normal heart
#

i just need to make sure i'm pressing all the right numbers XD

normal heart
#

how do i defend against devil jin's laser?

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it hit me every time

plucky sky
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1 is left arm, 2 is right arm, 3 is left leg, 4 is right leg

normal heart
#

yeah, my controller keeps confusing me ;-;

plucky sky
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Also

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1+3 and 2+4 grabs suck ass

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Don't use them

normal heart
#

ok

plucky sky
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You can tech them with 1 or 2

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Making them not really a mix up

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Instead just use f1+3 or f2+4 for the plus frames

normal heart
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ok, so the hug is better than doing the whole grab

plucky sky
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Which kinda has a mid/low mixup with 2 or 4 inputted afterwards

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If you want to throw people with Asuka

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df2+3 and uf1+2

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df2+3 is a 2 break, uf1+2 is a 1+2 break

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You can also do FC(full crouch)db1+2 for another 1+2 break

normal heart
#

ok

plucky sky
#

It’s kinda weird that Asuka doesn’t know who Jin is despite it’s heavily implied that Asuka’s Dad is Jun’s brother

stark salmon
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and threw that story into garbage

normal heart
#

oh, i never got my answer on how to block devil jin's laser. do i have to block low or something?

#

the cpu hit me with it 3 times in a row ;-;

stark salmon
#

you must duck it

normal heart
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so if i get hit i'm SOL

plucky sky
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It’s unblockable

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As soon as you see it

normal heart
#

ok, that makes so much more sense

plucky sky
#

Sidestep it or duck it

normal heart
#

gotcha gotcha

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i thought i was blocking it wrong

plucky sky
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But still

#

Someone that closely related to Jun should also have and use her powers too

stark salmon
rigid mortar
#

i just saw the weirdest cope on the long ass wait time and fighting the same person over and over again

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"the people who were complaining about no more infinite rematches are the ones who are now complaining about queueing up against the same person 3 times in a row "

plucky sky
#

The only canon ending in T5 is Jin’s

stark salmon
finite bridge
#

In the same ending Jin accidentally motorboats Asuka so that’s canon now too I guess

golden kettle
#

Mannnn Miguel would hit so good right now

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I might boot up 7 just to play my boy

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plushies lol

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i want a funny bryan one

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Lars would prolly be more beneficial but I wouldn’t say Asuka would be a bad choice to learn either

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Just torn between the two

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I don’t know how it is for you in Europe but I say it’s beneficial mostly just because I see Lars more so learning the matchup and character on a more intimate level is prolly better for him