#SNK Matchmaking
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I tell you Luna is much better player than I am I swear
Tyler Luna makes Angel look good
Billy is just annoying to fight
Annoying to fight doesn't equal good
She has better game sense and neutral than I do
Fuck Shingo.
Someone got hit by a couple of crits
I never felt so complimented in my life
I'd compliment you more if you didn't play shermie or billy 
She is my nightmare. She beats me in neutral often
Wake up Fire Spin ftw
Like how do you even get close to this monster?
Aw
You know how to punish that...
Sad
Knowledge check failed
Aw cmon
I wasn't in reach
Like he does everything except for a reversal
GGs!!!!!
I actually have to go now
GGs
You won now...
But I will be back.
Why do I feel like Billy is my best char now?
Even Shermie is disappointing me lately
Billy only has 2 downsides on the Dream cancel
This man seems incredible to me. With only bad hurt boxes and "funky execution"
He's still bad Tyler leona only has 2 downsides like Billy yet she's only like a tier above most of the time
Leona doesn't have massive range though
I feel like that would be enough, he also has a lot of damage to go with his massive range
She still sucks though
His problem is that he has an optimal range
If you're on the mid range, you're where he wants you to be
But full screen or close to him?
He SUCKS
He is a defensive char most of the time tho
Which is why Leona has to work to approach him, which might seem hard af
But pressure him and you'll see his only true defensive option is 5A mash
His staff is a hurtbox.
You can abuse that
yeah you can poke him out of his pokes
If you get in on him he doesn’t really have any means to make a comeback if you’re up in his face
You can literally bitch slap Billy from half screen
gotta watch out for the Luna special close b autocombo
If you have fireballs, you can easily zone too
Will catch you lacking
It's hilarous, Billy's Kane and Whip's whip can be hit 🤣
If/when Billy does the rising spin move, you can run under it and get a full punish in
Darli and Haoh’s … air can as well
SNK really crafted the worst character of all time w/ Billy
Hey Dyl do you want to try your internet connection again?
Real lifing
Bro is the cook
DuoLon disagrees
oh bro you’re spitting
I have yet to see DuoLon catch a single W
SNK really crafted the two worst characters of all time
And get this:
Paid dlc
I got one hit on an opponent behind me on a Baja Blast today. Weirdest thing I ever saw
You be watching KOF replays watching the DuoLon players take L’s too bro 😂
Frr
Poor chaps think it's 13
I paid money bro!!!!
They need to keep this up. Keep pay2win out of kof
if Shen Woo sucks ima be pissed
Snk really hates money if they puttin out pay-to-lose dlc
Raitguy will you try Shen Woo if/when he drops ?
They need to hit Cock Howard hard with the next nerf patch
Seems like your kind of guy
No American Sports Team, no buy
They need to break rocks other knee😂
He does big punches and big wake up / raw supers
what did he mean by this ⁉️
Rock is stupid rn
Take away EX reppuken buff
Take away Rock
Install can stay
Goofy ass mf
His hitboxes are ridiculous
boy do I have some bad news for you…..
Dollar store reppuken havin ass

give Rock back his Neo Deadly Rave in Garou
I spend all Rock rounds repeating "THAT hit?"
Real shit
Give me a Kain R Heinlein trailer
Rock out here fighting Casper the friendly ghost and I still get hit
Ngl kain would get me hype
Kain would be sick
<@&1057859264267436092>
LMFAO
The Luna special
Cl. B, Auto combo Climax
that close b feels FAST as fuck sihdhdhebebdb
the Luna day 1 Kim Kaphwan special: Brazilian Lag, Cl.D
You interested in playing a bit soon?
I got like 20-30 minutes
Whenever
LMFAOOOOOO
Kim can also do Cl. B, Auto combo
You got a code?
430721
Not a clue
Yeah those cross ups are very strong
Shit I can't block them
I can't DP super to save my life on Shingo
Feck man I’m mashing too much
Goddamnit i fucked up safe jump w Iori accidental pressed a button
This one is my last
Okay
My things are hurting from death gripping the charges
GGs brother
Ggs wow I got worse
Tyler a bully. That's my story and I'm sticking to it 🤣
Feels like a coin flip whether I get to play as Nessa or not
Man, a lot of people just have never seen a Leona.
I got robbed so many times
Yeah, that shit happens to me all the time. I mean it
I did the cleanest half circle motions no super, I use my anti air at correct time I get tapped even tho I should have air invincibility unless that’s only ex 
When I get beat by fizz's shermie, it's like okay I need to learn the knowledge checks
When I play Tyler's Leona I feel like I need to uninstall the game and sell my computer 🤣
Ugh some days I just wanna drop Nessa entirely it’s so much work feel like I’m still not playing her correctly
My Leona and Shingo feel like that consistently. I'm not bad with the characters but a lot of characters are a lot easier.
I fight real hard to do the things I do.
You jump against Nessa she’s pretty much fucked
And I still lose getting zoned out with her ugh when she’s fun she’s really fun but when she’s not working
@calm ember Would you like to fight me sometime to test some of the stuff out you've learn?
Still kinda figuring stuff out and getting experience
But soon maybe
Yeah no problem Cien I understand
ft3?
5
@wet coral you out?
for now yeah
Ok
Cien is streaming?
@autumn ibex @covert torrent @timid dawn lobby up. Tired of you motherfuckers.


Joining?
1v1?
Aight let’s go
I need one min. Plus waiting on zero
Okie
When it's us 3 we can do ft1
I'm getting on right now @grim talon
Me too
459884
I just downloaded that granblue beta. I might play KOF later prolly idk
LMK if you want to play
According to zero I'm the downplay champion
Nah I agree with him bruh lol
Bro I be getting waxed 70% of the time
Delete it
Waiting on you Bubs
How many times we gotta go thru this dude…
Loading

Y'all just in a room match

Who you gonna use in the beta


It’s too many characters to choose from so I will have a hard time.
I may not even play matches any time soon.
Random Daru
@autumn ibex please stick with those mains plz
You can actually set up which characters random cycles through in Granblue which is pretty cool
No clue if you could set it up in the beta
I will have to look into this then perfect
Does this look like GRANDBLUE_Mathmaking?!?!
This is an English stream motherfuckers
Steengur
Srash!
<@&1057859264267436092>
@drowsy silo ban this dude smoke from our lobby
I been dropping that super cancel with Heidern as of late
And you know what Luna isn't even in the lobby, but ban them too
Because smoke pulled a Luna
We're in a lobby but Yuri is on screen
So what happens next is up to you
No. Its probably full because we were gonna have a sweat set between us three to spice me up for a tournament
Smoke set it up
Gotta work on your pressure bubbles
You kind of just default to 2A sweep most of time
Nvm your switching it up
I'm still in the lobby
I got kicked too
@covert torrent all the swag was for nothing. Let's run back the last one
Wait on smoke
Fresh lobby cause I can’t get in
I sent invites
Aight ggs y’all I’m out
Did you rq?
What?
Zero hit you and the game died
No dude there was another error why would I rq when I was winning?
The game probably froze on smoke's end
We are all getting robbed today
We are both still in lobby btw smoke
Guess it's just me and you
Grease Howard
390997
It's 390897
Yeah I was confused when you did that
I can make the room
Ok let’s try
Bubbles I already made the lobby
You didn't post the #
Smoke is in here
Geesuh Howardo
I'll come to yours
I don't have you added on anything
316947
I just follow people and send them that way
I hate breaking in a new pad
I'm finally not dropping the heidern super so atleast theirs that
I swear every time I watch smoke play Yuri I wanna play her
Do it

Dudes one of you is lagging
I was starting to lag
I got kicked this time
Play a matxh I'll be bacl
I'm still in the lobby as usual
Last time it was smoke
He got the Torrents open
I’m good I can only take so much of this before I just go play a game that works
Me and Zero never had this issue tho
Same and same with you

Idk what it is prob just the netcode being ass
Yeah it's probably the game being wonky as usual
I’m sure it’ll be worse after Hinako drops as is tradition
Yeah whenever a new character drops everything dips lmao
Every single patch it’s worse lol
I thought I was crazy until i saw other people saying it
I'll never forget when Kim dropped and I was dumb founded as to why the game ran worse online
I'll be there in a min. You guys do a match
Yeah dude it’d be awesome to just play and not have to wonder if it’s all for nothing

I mean it was skipping so hard in my end I dropped the round closer against Leona twice lol
Yeah I saw it too
Me too
On some occasions
Trust me 
I'll do another set or 2 bubbles and that'll be it for me
Bereived

Lemme finish this lemonade
Still in the room?
Yeah
Ok
Sure
Last one for sure

I see you wanted to get my hopes up
By letting me win
@timid dawn now u
<@&1057859264267436092> king of fighters matchmaking
XV? is this a drill? lol
This is not a dril
Tryna run this pumpkin head?
get me a number i'm coming
731050
Don't let Rait win
nah, I'm on a bad losing streak
V E N O M S T R I K E
I would, but I just got off after playing a lot 
K’ CV
smh
I had to try the EX Tornado kick
I was about to bring out the killing machine 😂
ggs
Might as well go back to ranked since I'm warmed up lol
Go fight that rank 15 lag switcher I beat
Lowkey this worked wonders bro 😈
<@&1057859264267436092>
I need more practice let's go a few
Aight
<@&1057859264267436092> fuck it I'm in the mood
🤣🤣🤣
?
How was FoF?

Who did you play?
Not ChrisG don't worry. He was there tho
A what?
That sounds like a cult
Nah I saw him at EVO during KOF pools and said what’s up
We chatted for a few minutes he seemed pretty normal to me
Chris do be talking on stream
To say the least lmao
It's like when people have stories of meeting LTG
And he seems like a decent person
That I find hard to believe lol LTG seems like a bully or a wannabe one
(LTG supporter)
Oh for sure dude is a asshole
But I swear I've heard people say he's not all that bad irl which I find hard to believe
Yeah same here
I didn't speak to him. I don't want to approach him and act like I actively watch his streams and stuff, cuz I don't

I wouldn't have much to talk about.
I'm not a true fan
I just said hey man who’s your team and we chatted about KOF for like maybe 5 minutes tops
He played Heidern, Chris, Yashiro, Meitenkun,
Yeah what was your record bubs
@covert torrent my record?
I played only 4 SF games. Lost in winners to a JP that had all the setups.
And lost my second game in losers to a gief 
In Kof, smoked the first game, lost to somebody whose Ash I couldn't get past.
And went in losers and faced a sweatier Ralf
Sounds like a good day
JP is the season 1 Krohnen of 6
60+% off a reversal is ridiculous
Wasn’t there supposed to be a party tonight? Are you still there
Party?
And no I was with my friend we didn't stay
It’s a bar right? Just meant like people were hanging out after but I get it if you had to go
I was hanging out. Just with my real friend


You gotta pay to be on my friends list
<@&1057859264267436092> who is free in a few minutes
i can keep you warm till ur real friends arrive. 🙂
Everyone here is a snake

@grim talon
Yo
Man I was labbing ralf and I don't know how those bloke did that CD into Ralph punch mid screen
(with the greatest of ease)
ralf punch is what?
214 one?
That's what I'm calling it but I think it's Vulcan punch
236
Yeah
This time it is
241796 @timid dawn
@covert torrent if you want to join I'll make a new room
just dash and do the 236C
right after the CD
midscreen yes idk about anything else
Just buy a house lmao
I did itsa hardo
life is hard

@grim talon I'm in the kitchen rn gimmie like 2 mins
so u dont play Rugal ?
Since bubbles is playing Daru
You're a sqaure

@daeu
@timid dawn
DID YOU SEE THAT
her cl D hits high as shit
Live footage
Dokamitanda
@timid dawn I'ma eat after this one.
Also you picked ash. Now youre taunting me
I shouldn't have lost that

GGs for now
ggs
I'll @ you later

Was my approach a bit better?
you did some good stagger pressure
Clark meathead ass can do this with those big ass buttons
And Kornen with those Far normals
And Ralf
I see you have a type...

I was finnicky with Clark. That's why I picked him. Needs work
be like that. Might as well keep using him, you know how it goes with Clark
*She's
He can steamroll
(Leona)
:GuessBitch:
emote not showing
oh damn I didn't even notice

well I see now
there we go
I'm probably about to cancel my nitro
I keep forgetting to
That means you lost your angry K'
How are you going to react with fake :LeonaJudge :?
@timid dawn me earlier
He what?
I bet Howl had his audio muted when he deleted it

But whyyyyy
He hasn't responded to PSN messages
So weird
That's only way I can think of contacting him
Haha I meant it’s weird he didn’t respond you did your due diligence
I knew what you meant ROKESMODEO


Smoke. It's the classic Reesla image I've posted. You don't share tho, so get blocked bitch.
I know Bubs
But it’s in emote form therefore I need it
And I share hella stuff
Sharing is caring
Also
This is somebodies else private server and they uploaded for me

I’m gonna let you leave that post up but the period at the end was a bit much don’t you think
Which one?

@autumn ibex if you're talking about this, you didn't read it in LTG's voice.

Was I outta line?
Now you’re just flexing
"You said 'they're he goes?'
There he gets BLOCKED."
I saw someone in BH with the name but couldn’t tell if it was him or someone doing a bit
Maybe a troll
Kinda what I thought
Come beat up my Kamberly tmw I need the MU XP before more ranked
We should play KOF too
We are definitely running that back
(Is the Audio good for you?)
I couldn’t hear anything
It's bugged. It's LTG yelling BLOCKED
<@&1057859264267436092> 



@grim talon I can hop on for a bit if you still want games
I do.
Gonna get this bread?
Ok give me a min
People popped up once they saw the Boogie.
Nah y’all got it

Come œn
We can do ft1
I most likely won't be able to get on tomorrow.
You caught me at a good time because I wanted to lab some things but I'll do it tomorrow
I fought Daru last time and I had fun... I think it's because I did one thing different.
Oh?
LMAO
:hehgottemggs:
Not anymore.
Gottem, ggs.
YO WHY YOU PICKING KROHNEN YOU BITCHASS-
King?
Blocked.
@covert torrent lag?

You're giving me the opposite advice of Daru who said I blocked too much
It clearly was the right thing to do at times.
It's not advice just an observation I had
You clearly press a lot with iori mid screen too and it's very rewarding
I don't see the issue
Just means my frame traps aren't effective enough
That's how I felt every time I ate a shatter strike from Smoke
You're clearly getting annoyed because you started choosing throw away characters and t bagging.
So I'll take what you'd say with a grain of salt
The picks were
T bagging doesn't hurt my feelings I can just see your mindset
so are yall still playing?
I might can do like a few maybe like a half a game
maybe 1/3 a game.
Yes we're still playing

Quit after this match?
It feels fine for now
💀
Rage quit time
Your worst enemies don't deserve to fight her
@covert torrent
All that meter
Was a pixel too far
Start throwing more in offense you haven't done it once
For Namco
I haven't grasped that
No pun intended
That was not planned
@covert torrent I haven't really learned how to run up throw
When you run press back and heavy button
But you have to remember how throw invul works
Smoke said 10 frames
Yup
But like in that case they can just wake up throw tho?
I'm saying when I'm blocking
If I'm blocking worst thing that can happen is I mash
But iori mash = death
@covert torrent play geese
I'm just conditioned not to. Blame SF I guess
I don't blame you
People don't wanna get thrown in sf6 lmao
This is last one

GGs bubbles
@covert torrent and you can see I was attempting run up throw there
I was at least able to do it a couple times tho
Back and C are either not hitting on the same frame or your doing it too slow
Or I'm still throw invul
I think I was too slow plus it's a bit hard with ralf bc of his slow run speed. That's why I was more able to do it with krohnen since he's fast
It shouldn't matter with the run speed I'm able to do it with geese and ryo and they're run speeds are on the slower side
Ralf is slowwww tho

But yeah I was surprised I was able to do it. See I learn something every time I fight you.
<@&1057859264267436092> I know nothing but I want to play Hinako still
Count me in
Alright can you can make a room?
May I ask for a single vs or should we just do regular team vs
Gran blue done ruined me
AW CMON
Landed the route at least
She's cute tho
Man why's rock do so much damage to my guard bar
Rock is fun
It doesn't
Works too much
I keep getting told that not everyone I lose to 0-3 is godlike but it doesn't feel like that

I swear to everything that you are on another level compared to me at your floor
In all FGs I need to add
Nah
You're just getting back to Kof
Luna this always happens
Luna's on another level
Well it's going to feel that way when you aren't as experienced
Another level of boolsheet
LMFAOOOOO
I think Luna could touch any FG and become godlike in like a week
Nahhhhhh
She is just a superior gamer than I believe I will ever be
Shit she's significantly better than I am at one of my favorite characters
Leona is one of my favs too
Well guess I shouldn't play her. I'm nowhere near your level of offense I see
Nah
You need to play her
She's GREAT
Like as in, I'm not doing anything with my Leona comparatively
And you do well with her
Doesn't mean it always will
Geese is SO HYPE
Listen, there's some people who are really just way better than I will ever be I tell you.
I'm telling you, from playing MK and KOF you're certainly at tiers above me as an FG player
And I can promise you the statement still stands. I don't ever blame that character
The*
You've certainly demolished me like this on my main team
I stopped picking her the other day and I was having fun
I got 2 more sets because I gotta do adult paper work after that
Not without my main team
You beat my South Town
Less than you've beaten me
Normally a lot more one-sided when you win as well.
The double perfect has gotta prove my point
Nahhhhhh
I just got lucky there
I was super aggressive and you couldn't stop me
Auto combo ftw
Luna, I'll put my entire future on this statement.
Your Sylvie is better than any character I have ever played
You saying that limits yourself
They are better than you now, yes
But you can reach that level too with time
I disagre Cien.
I disagree
AngstyTyler over here 🤣
LMFAOOOOOOO
I'm still licking my wounds from the asskicking Tyler gave me in ranked the other day
I used to have a chance to steal one. I had ZERO hope 😅
GGs
GGs!!!!!
The more I lose in this game I'm telling you. The more confidence I get, that says I should not enter a beginner tournament until I put 300 more hours in this game.
Then again, Hinako is a new character
If I was facing Yama or Shingo, things would've been completely different
Absolutely would not have
The only thing that would've changed is the amount of damage I get from a confirm
Billy was the only one holding you from 3-0 ing me last time
Yeah and OCVd my team multiple times
Who ever said to just have confidence I need to talk to them
That’s the classiest way I’ve ever heard someone say “taking a poop” before well done
Yeah I know, I ain't too worried about it. It's just a paperwork and a lot of phone calls
Oh and if you’re having fun playing Leona then play her, and if not then don’t. I went through this with Beni back in the beginning. Really wanted to play him. Really didn’t enjoy it. Had to stop
Is what it is
If y'all know somewhere taking an unexperienced programmer from Brazil, plz tell me
LMFAO
Why? I hate Beni, but always thought it might be fun playing him
Someone told me I just lack confidence. Which is true because when I lose to characters I actually really like playing. All of the sudden I feel I can't play them correctly. After losing to them
Especially Sylvie and Whip
His fireball is weird and his 2C doesn’t work the way a lot of others do. Combo structure has tight links. Maybe I’ll give him another shot but he’s at the back of the line for now
I'd really love to tbh
But getting out of your country isn't exactly easy as well
But I will soon! Maybe Canada, maybe somewhere in EU, maybe Japan...
Depends on where tf accepts me first and is cheaper to actually go to
Makes sense tbh
Maybe because he is so different, I thought he might be fun
But ehhhhhh
I should probably focus on my main team for a while
There’s always gonna be someone better. That’s like everything in life. I’d rather focus on myself than that fact but that’s just me
I wanna get back to Kof
But SF6 and MK1 are eating my free time
I disagree
The earlier you can enter a tournament the better
That's the funny part. I do, I look to see what they're doing that I don't to try and incorporate it. but then I really don't understand it.
Like Sylvie's cross up and 214C into a button. I understand it but can not incorporate it. Or figure out a good way to use it.
Me too. I’ve been trying to understand and incorporate setplay into my strat since I started playing last year. Because I don’t understand how people can come up with these, “Hehehe I’m gonna put my opponent in this fucked up situation where there’s 6 wrong answers for every 1 good one”. I just don’t understand it, like how do they come up with this stuff
It’s one reason I’m learning Kimberly because she has a bunch of that shit. But still, I’m just copying I’m not able to generate my own bullshit
See I fail, I tend to stop it. The Leona crossup off of her super works on no one because everyone just either knows about it or they just roll
So I just assume if it didn't work on X player. It's not working on any player.
Personally, as I was trying to explain to Zero last week, I'd rather just copy and adapt some small stuff to make it easier for me even if less optimal
And then after I copy tech from a lot of people, I mix them up and try to make one go into the other
But yeah, trial and error
No lab
Just do it on the fly
If it works on 3 opponents in a row, it'll prob almost always work
That makes sense. The one difference is I tend I lab a fair bit up front and then as I play it’s less and less. Like I don’t lab KOF anymore it’s just straight to games, but I did a lot in the beginning
In SF6 when I learn a new character it’s like 2 sessions in the lab then just BH until I’m comfy (usually around 200 matches) then ranked
I'll probably play again in like an hour or 2. I have the habit of just waiting to get games under my belt as this character.
AH
SMOKE
Free today? I need some serious SF going
I will be later! Gotta do some work and errands but should be on this afternoon PST
Who you playing these days?
Still Marisa
Diamond 4 and I NEED to get to Master
You’ll get there
Ranked is kind of a shit show but on a long enough timeframe it happens
Yeah, I actually do think I can get there on the pace I'm going rn
Your tech of playing some games and then watching the replays work wonders
I'm just impatient
So am I lol. It’s just that slowing down and analyzing is (ironically) faster lmao
I wanna see if there is anything really notable I'm doing wrong or smt
Doesn’t mean I like it but that’s how it is, for me at least
Maybe the problem is that I'm playing 3 FGs seriously at the same time
Hmmm. Maybe? I’m about to see for myself when T8 drops
The trinity will be completed at that point
I wonder what gave it away 
See that generalizing isn't all too beneficial
Imo
Prob the anger attack I had yesterday when I noticed I played ranked for 3h and only got 20 more points
LMFAOOOOOO
LMAO
That's SF6 right?
I remember you get points at a snali's pace the higher rank you have
No you are correct Cien going with that logic just ruins most games for you
You have to be willing to try
If you don't try then yeah of course everything feels impossible
It's like how bubbles was scared that I would mash his throw attempts
It's a risk you have to take
Nothing in this game is gonna be free
Around 50 per win
And I'm losing like 40 too per loss
What kind of exchange rate is that 
I mean
I lose 50 as well if I lose to someone from a lower rank
Yeah but isn't the total amount of points to master something ridiculous?
It’s 50-60 per win if they are near the same rank. Up to 250 for beating a master. -40 for a loss
50 per win just means it favors people who stay up to play the game until like 3am or something
25000
It’s really not that bad
Helps to place in D1
Ahh ok that in my head it seemed like a lot more
I got Manon to Master in under 300 ranked matches, ended with like a 64% win rate or something
With Ken it took wayyy longer bc I placed G4
Platinum purgatory is a real thing lmao
Placed Kimberly in D1 soooo happy to skip that part of the grind
Oh I believe it my brother has been stuck in there for awhile lmao
You like gripping ppl?
Always knew manon was toxic
Grip Rodeo
Honestly plat players are easy to beat once you realize a few things:
They don’t AA
They don’t hold shit (so I block when they wake up)
They walk themselves to the corner and then try and steal it with a jump/DI
Stop those things and it’s EZ
So I too can get out of platinum smoke 🤔
I did it because @calm ember said I couldn’t lol
“Let me know when you hit diamond” he said
Yeah it’s not that bad
How’s hinako? I watched like 1 match of kof and she looks stubby she kofs first T. rex character is crazy💀
You said fuck kimborely and fuck Ken I’m a manon main after that🤣
Ken did get benched frfr lol. But tbh I learned a lot from playing a grappler so I owe him a thank you
Thanks Cien
But now I’m all in on Kamberly
Putting people in the Kamberlance
She's ok but I think people will stick with the other grapplers like Clark and O.yash
You play Juri right? Plus frame them to death and learn cross cut DP’s, or just do the reverse input like in KOF (that’s what I do so it’s the same)
EZ
Yeah I’m noticing the issues ||there’s just better gripplers||
I’m gonna learn her when The Onesie ™️ drops
I was afraid of this and got yelled at. “She’s sumo not a grappler” and I was ok I guess. Just hope it’s not another wasted character spot
They should’ve just made her kit broken 🙂
Give shermie a run for her her muny
I mean…yeah you’re right

I could give it a try next week, I have fun when playing sf6
Yeah unfortunately
I think it's another case of snk wanting to play it safe with the season 2 dlc
How's hinako so far?
They’re trying to beat the pay to win allegations
Yeah they don't want another gato situation lmao
Which like…I get but also, why should I buy characters if they aren’t at bare minimum good
Yeah...
cough (duo L-on) cough
Capcom trolled us with AKI, dude holy shit that character is not good
Duo Lon I feel like they didn't bother testing
Rashid is turning out to be a beast tho
Nah they know, he is busted in 13
I did a little research and it’s funny because when he dropped in 5 it was the same thing. “Ah he’s mid” and then nope. Just no fucking way lmao
Hell I still feel that way about Najd
She’s insane if she gets a touch
Yeah because of her snowball nature Najd seems really good
when you get the hit
But seems really bad when you play defensively or have to play neutral a bit
no the fuck i didnt
i never once said you couldnt do it
Yeah but that’s KOF at large. 60 seconds on the clock. The announcer doesn’t say “Fight” he says “Go!”. No big celebrations for perfects, get some health back on a dub. Like everything in that game screams “Attack”
So if you’re playing defense you’re already kinda not playing KOF
What was the implication supposed to be on, “Let me know when you get to Diamond” then? Because the lead up to all that was you telling me how bad the character was and how much help she needed
NOOOOO
Forget it
I take it back
Auto combo Rashomon is the way
yes, i wanted you to see what i meant
Luna you kill the damage of rashomoun when doing that
@quick aspen
Pœsonally
Nah
5C, 6A, 214A, Rashomon
@covert torrent I'm better than Smoke, huh?
I didn’t take it personally I took it as a challenge. Because you were saying she can’t she can’t AA right above her so of course I had to figure out if that was true or not
Hmm?
i said she had a whole host of things

yes you did
True, but just AAAB, Rashomon still does exactly 52% iirc
Ofc it's not optimal for 3 bars
But...
STYLE
Nah that ain't style, but the mental damage is insane
That's the best part
Ok so there’s this thing called subtext, it’s where people don’t actually have to say things plainly because they don’t want to get called out for it. Suffice to say you said what you said because you thought I would struggle. If your only defense is, “I didn’t say that exactly in those words” then whatever. We both know what you meant
you think you know what i meant
i wanted you to see it from the perspective of knowing manon
but no
you think i think less of you
toxic af if you ask me
Not really
you were saying all this stuff without even playing her
now that you had more experience, the conversation is now different
Yeah but I know people who play her, who got out of pools with her at EVO. She’s not bad. Any character is bad if we just unga cmd grabs
i couldve just as easily said ' go hit master'
thats different
why think i said diamond by accident?
I mean…that’s why I waited until I did
I don't think he's saying she is good I think Smoke is implying that she's useable than what other people would say
I mean, yeah
She is doable
Super congrats on getting to Master
But like...
I truly cannot believe any word you say if you claim she's not bad
Cmon bro, she needs buffs more than Aki imo
But no, she is viable it’s just like all characters it takes more work
and all i asked in my long ass rant that she could use a few things
Ofc, I don't think Manon is like Billy
But she is weaker than most of the cast
esp for medals
i didnt say this neither, funny enough
Nah
I am saying this
I think she is high risk high reward
i said that she has to play neutral more comaparative to the cast
Versus a Marisa who is low risk high reward
My typa character
also to this, subtext is only as important as the context its in
since i was saying stuff as a manon main and challenged me with your ideas, you only had previous fought against manon and not known how she was to play in detail
why would i challenge you out of spite when i just wanted us to have an informed discussion?
From my point of view, you were dooming the character and the challenge felt like another way of saying you didn’t think it could be done
It’s a pretty reasonable take
i literally had two over the text limits about the pros and cons of this character
what part of that was dooming?
The AA mostly. It’s seriously one of her main strengths
Yeah exactly and she has answers for that Also the stuff about playing neutral.
Like everyone has to play neutral
2c missies when its too close
All of the neutral skips have beeg holes
and 236k moves her forward
yeah but when ken jinrai is right, you lose 30%
Watch this video again and really pay attention to my input; specifically the motion after the whiffed throw
ok, taking this for knowledge
what about when the opponent has advantage?
from here you are AA after the hp tc
not what i asked or said
Jinrai is fake bro idk what to tell you
not what i said
Block low and DI the OH
not what i said
yes
that is what i said
notice that i said "when it is"
not that it's impossible to stop
There is no mixup when we can always just…block low
when it is
keyword when
and my point is, that manon's nuetral skips dont get you much reward for when they do land
comparative to the cast
Ok let me be crystal clear
You shouldn’t be trying to skip neutral
It won’t take anyone very far
should right?
Every single skip in that game is fake












