SNK Matchmaking

[bitter elk]

I'm happy to hear that.

About the rules that is

[covert torrent]

You'll get use to tyler

It took me awhile to get consistent with Iori's

[simple axle]

I do it as Rock but somehow that's the only character I can kind of do it with

[covert torrent]

and I still flub up the input on occasion

[river lichen]

I still get accidental DPs with Rock

[sand furnace]

We made sure it’s in the rules when we created this server

[covert torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/munsonated-gif-26549638

Me who tea bagged months ago because I was buffering a hyper hop

[bitter elk]

Thank goodness. I've seen so many matches just degenerate into absurdity because of that stuff.

[simple axle]

Most toxic thing I think I do is play the game. Like run up overhead with Yamazki

Even if they do something? Like in SF?

[sand furnace]

Yep it’s a sign of disrespect imo

[simple axle]

I see, don't play SG

[covert torrent]

Wait a minute I just remembered that someone tea bagged me when they got me stunned when I was learning K'

I forgot their @

[simple axle]

I like taunts a lot though. They flex the character traits

[sand furnace]

Was it cherry?

[covert torrent]

No it wasn't them

They were playing Ash funny enough

Since I know cherry uses him from time to time

They're team was benimaru kula ash

I remember they tea bagged me once they got the stun with Kula

And then I proceeded to ocv them Elisabeth

[sand furnace]

Not sure. Next time if you see it, you can let the mods know if you think it was disrespectful, they will get a strike

[muted elm]

<@&1057859264267436092>

[elfin ice]

<----

[covert torrent]

I can probably look for the interaction I had with them but I'm not that bothered by it

[sand furnace]

That’s up to you

[muted elm]

Ain no way

[bitter elk]

Lol some dude in casuals just started teabagging me. I have no idea why.

[covert torrent]

I beat them pretty convincingly and I found that a good enough punishment

If it happens again though I probably will contact a mod

[bitter elk]

This game. Mmm mm mmm

[covert torrent]

Casual matches can get toxic for no reason lmao

[bitter elk]

It sure can.

[muted elm]

I still ain’t played ranked or casual

[bitter elk]

Casuals is good for the most part but you get the odd peach here and there.

[elfin ice]

If anyone is wondering, I don't teabag I'm desperately trying to buffer something 😅

[bitter elk]

It's obvious when someone is teabagging.

Buffering has a bit of frwd movement to it.

[muted elm]

Yeah

[sand furnace]

Anyways don’t be toxic

[simple axle]

o7

Never on purpose

[bitter elk]

I'll play a bunch of sets with someone if they want.

[sand furnace]

I think @muted elm was looking

[bitter elk]

It's really tough to land jump ins consistently.

[muted elm]

yeah im down

[bitter elk]

Ok I'm in a match right now. I'll finish real quick.

[autumn ibex]

A couple nights ago I had a DJ teabag me and then drop 😭 I was laughing so hard at him

[sand furnace]

It’s why I prefer single player games

[autumn ibex]

I messed up a safe jump during La Gema a couple weeks back and it looked like I bagged. Pro player too 😭

[covert torrent]

Shit that must of looked bad LMAO

[muted elm]

Me who can’t focus on singleplayer games 😔

[autumn ibex]

It’s a hyper hop setup off a super. I was so shocked I landed it (and was one interaction from winning) I double pumped the down input lol

[bitter elk]

I just got ripped by a yuri.

[autumn ibex]

I lost

[bitter elk]

Unreal

Brutal. That was like playing smoke.

[muted elm]

Think imma have to pick up Sylvie fr

[bitter elk]

@muted elm I'm going to try and make a room.

[muted elm]

Aight

Wow my spelling immaculate

[bitter elk]

Ugh it doesnt like when i switch modes

Have to restart my game.

That yuri was something .

Is anyone else having troubles with kof and getting into online modes.

It keeps failing on me. Never had this problem before.

Ok finally made a room.

899822 @muted elm

[muted elm]

On my waaay

Oof I just cannot beat king easily

[bitter elk]

Ash does well against her imo

[muted elm]

Yeah but he just outzones her

[bitter elk]

Agreed

[muted elm]

Idk how to actually get to her

[drowsy silo]

Every Ramon, Dino, ESPECIALLY SHERMIE main getting banned

[bitter elk]

Nice

[muted elm]

I still got screen tearing ugh

[drowsy silo]

[muted elm]

Less go Shermie supremacy

[drowsy silo]

Hold up

[muted elm]

I dp too much 😂

[bitter elk]

You dont do it a lot.

[muted elm]

I- dayum…

[river rock]

<@&1057859264267436092>

[muted elm]

That eats projectiles?!

[bitter elk]

The stare downs

[muted elm]

Hell nah I’m not pressing buttons lmao

[bitter elk]

Lol

[muted elm]

Dropped Nessa combo lol

[bitter elk]

Lol it happens

Is this your main team?

[muted elm]

Yeah for now

How’d I manage to drop again at critical point

[timid dawn]

I'll play some m8

if u still on there

[river rock]

@timid dawn I can get on

Gimme a sec

@timid dawn 165748

[muted elm]

I finally landed Iori command grab and drop fuuu

[bitter elk]

Nice

Damn.

Flew too close to the sun there. Well played

[muted elm]

Gotta be careful it’ll nuke one of us once it comes out

[bitter elk]

Lol pretty much

[muted elm]

It missed freest combo

Why that saaafe

[bitter elk]

What safe?

[muted elm]

King slide lol

[bitter elk]

Its isnt up close

But I can space it to make it plus lol

Well played

Shermie is a menace

[muted elm]

Shermie carrying

[bitter elk]

Yep

Namely the cross up

[muted elm]

Since beginning of playing kof

[sharp yew]

@muted elm fight me bro

[muted elm]

Kept you waiting huh?

[sharp yew]

Nah, I've just been playing mc for the last 4 hours and thought to myself "I bet fizz is on rn"

[elfin ice]

is it....

[sharp yew]

And lo and behold

[elfin ice]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-night-fire-fight-battle-crypt-tv-gif-13233003

[sharp yew]

W pfp

[muted elm]

Well I’m down to rumble ofc

[sharp yew]

I'm down to.. boogie

[elfin ice]

I just got Blue Mary reverse OCVed in ranked 7? times in a row

[sharp yew]

Oh what's that? The spongebob?

764284
@elfin ice @muted elm

[bitter elk]

Lol messed up so many times

Gg

[muted elm]

Couldn’t get my way in

After this set ima fight Dyl and Rait

[elfin ice]

if I win vs anyone I'm running 🤣

[sharp yew]

New objective: keep raitguy playing as long as possible

[muted elm]

Rait more scared of us than Gonutz

Damn that killed?

I heard the sound of the command grab 😂

[bitter elk]

I keep messing up my combos. Gg

[muted elm]

You neutraling the hell out of me

[sharp yew]

Heads up, my game hella laggy so fight me at risk

[elfin ice]

100% off of one whiffed tornado kick smh

[sharp yew]

Terry

Best anchor

Uncontested

[elfin ice]

anti-Dyl Team

[bitter elk]

Ggs

[muted elm]

Ggs @bitter elk

[elfin ice]

I had meter for climax

[bitter elk]

You too. That's a solid team you have.

[muted elm]

Yeah your team a wall

[bitter elk]

Lol

[elfin ice]

LFG!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[muted elm]

👁️👁️

[sharp yew]

Excuse me game, where tf my climax go??

Swallowed my inputs lmao

[elfin ice]

I see what I did wrong, my new aggressive King should not be rushing down Terry with 5 bars

sit back and spam venom strikes instead lol

[muted elm]

Time to sweat off some pounds

[sharp yew]

Concert stage on wifi

Get ready for a PowerPoint lmao

[bitter elk]

Lol

If anyone wants to run some sets my room is open.

899822

[elfin ice]

uhhh I just got kicked out

[sharp yew]

Game just crashed??

[muted elm]

That’s all folks 😂

[bitter elk]

I'm looking at you @timid dawn

[sharp yew]

Concert stage on wifi took everything the game had. After round one, it just died😅

[elfin ice]

Simply
Not
Konnecting

[timid dawn]

sup

[sharp yew]

SNK L smh

818234

Take 2 everybody

[muted elm]

Nessa my beloved

[sharp yew]

Mary my beloved

[muted elm]

Ayyy

[sharp yew]

NOOO

[elfin ice]

There it is! 😂😂😂😂

[sharp yew]

HE STILL HAS IT

[muted elm]

Terry look a lil different from last time we fought 👀

[sharp yew]

Wait til I catch ya with my fancy new corner combo

[muted elm]

Wait til I drop my combo

The PowerPoint can’t stop me

[sharp yew]

I am also immune to the PowerPoint

[muted elm]

Lag picking favorites

[elfin ice]

gotta use the rubber room stage

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-this-is-such-a-happy-place-padded-cell-clap-gif-16606549

[sharp yew]

You merely adopted the lag
I was born in it

[drowsy silo]

Bouta be banned for it

||not really||

Violent Kain

[muted elm]

Can I grab just once

Lag ate my backdash earlier!

[elfin ice]

she's not broken, just hop™

[muted elm]

Now I gotta play an “honest” game w shermie

[sharp yew]

Booo

[muted elm]

Taco

[sharp yew]

Damn..

[muted elm]

That was enough huh…

[sharp yew]

All it takes is just a touch

[muted elm]

Fr

Sylvie so fun

[elfin ice]

Sometimes you just gotta out-broken your opponent lol

[muted elm]

Using my head

[elfin ice]

Sylvie Broken Broken > Broken Mary

[sharp yew]

Oh cool😅

[river rock]

@timid dawn ggs

[muted elm]

Ah wanted level 3 was looking at wrong meter

[timid dawn]

ggs

[sharp yew]

It ain't me

[muted elm]

Was earlier lol

You were teleporting all around lol

[timid dawn]

@bitter elk 943999

[sharp yew]

Sylvie ate all my moves

[muted elm]

Nom

[elfin ice]

point Shermie oh snap

[muted elm]

She can’t do too much

[elfin ice]

and he's bringing out the cracked Ash lol

it's getting serious in here 😂

[bitter elk]

Unable to find room

[muted elm]

My Ash ain’t good-

[timid dawn]

my bad I joined 818234

just spectating, but we can play if you want to

[bitter elk]

You bet your ass I do.

[timid dawn]

563045

[muted elm]

That was a missinput-

BUSTA WOLF

[elfin ice]

EX fireballs let's see em lol

fizz wtf 🤣🤣🤣

[muted elm]

Ash lvl 1 decides when to and when not to work okay

[elfin ice]

I was getting excited seeing ash with all that meter and it wasn't even me 🤣🤣

[muted elm]

I got touched twice and had like 20% Hp left I can’t make that comeback w Ash 🤣

[elfin ice]

It's been a while since I let off 10 EX fireballs in a row 🤣

[muted elm]

I did bad cause I didn’t pick my fav Ash color

[bitter elk]

Hmmmm I see

What should undo against ash as king?

[elfin ice]

if you see Ash is loading up the strong fireball, use that time to shoot some venom strikes in there

if you're fast enough it never comes out 😅

[sharp yew]

Damn

[muted elm]

Nothing personal Mr. Bogard

[bitter elk]

Hmm perhaps I'm not being fast enough

[timid dawn]

King has way better normals imo, but you also have air fireball he doesn't

[bitter elk]

It seems ash's heavy eats kings pretty hard

[timid dawn]

if he has meter lead close in on him

run down on him

same way you would any other zoner

[bitter elk]

I'll have to work on that with king

Ash robs me of my gameplan as king

[timid dawn]

yeah definitely, cause he has setplay and a heavy fireball that eats the normal ones

I get it, but King is just as deadly

[bitter elk]

As you can tell Iike to control the screen with king or try to at least.

[elfin ice]

you can't get in a fireball war with Ash

you toss a few but make sure some are double strikes lol

[timid dawn]

yep

[elfin ice]

fizz try the kick super too 😅

[muted elm]

Idk what that one is-

[elfin ice]

it's 236 236 k

[bitter elk]

Yup ash is the one character that does not let me play king the way I want to play king

[sharp yew]

Terry

[muted elm]

I swung and was teleported into a command grab-

[elfin ice]

round start that sometimes catches Dyl 🤣🤣

[bitter elk]

Lol how did that climax not kill

[timid dawn]

I kinda figured it wouldn't

[bitter elk]

I put my controller down and everything

[muted elm]

I don’t like that super wow it can beat a jump in but like so can projectile

[sharp yew]

Toe check

[elfin ice]

I use it to get out of corner pressure lol

oh you wanna jump in do ya?

[muted elm]

Ex dp in that situation lol

[sharp yew]

Yall are forcing me to play grounded footsies

[bitter elk]

Yeesh that sucked

[timid dawn]

With King you almost had it though tbh

you did close the gap

but

[bitter elk]

Yeah kind of

I see what you mean

[timid dawn]

I was still able to move about and zone again

[bitter elk]

Yep

I saw that too

Once that heavy starts up

[timid dawn]

What's worse though, Athena or Ash

[elfin ice]

I love Ash 😂

[timid dawn]

I'd rather fight Ash tbh

[bitter elk]

Ash for me tbh. I'd rather fight athena

[timid dawn]

I see

[muted elm]

I’m dead

[timid dawn]

Both of them are obnoxious

[bitter elk]

But I need to learn to deal with ash

[sharp yew]

Aight one more for me

[bitter elk]

True but at least I can play king the way I want.

[timid dawn]

Maybe

[muted elm]

I’m surprised we still go even

[bitter elk]

I'm not worried about reflect. I have my ways to deal with that.....kind of

But ash's heavy

[sharp yew]

The lag restrains our true strength lmao

[muted elm]

Nah enhances

I’m playing better than I usually do

X

[elfin ice]

a 5 bar Terry anchor is a ticking timebomb

[muted elm]

YEP

[bitter elk]

The one time I needed a counter hit lol

Dang it

Well played good sir

[timid dawn]

no u

you're the well played

you played well

[muted elm]

B A M

[elfin ice]

that was for the style

[sharp yew]

I..

Damn..

[muted elm]

Femboy hooters

[sharp yew]

I tried to punish both those dps but game said power wave smh

[muted elm]

Came out on top

[sharp yew]

Time to retire and play minecraft and dark souls til I die😅

Ggs

[muted elm]

Ggs

[elfin ice]

ggs

[muted elm]

Play sf6

[sharp yew]

Never

[elfin ice]

Dyl we're not putting up with you anymore

[muted elm]

Tf you mean ggs 🫵

[sharp yew]

Wdym😭

[muted elm]

I need my rival Dyl

[elfin ice]

you can get as sweaty as you want, we're coming for you Dyl

it'll never stop

[sharp yew]

Oh I see

But fr tho, I need to see what tf is up with my internet cuz its never this bad

[bitter elk]

I liked that trap into dp on my wakeup

[timid dawn]

stole it from @surreal zodiac

[muted elm]

I might pick up Sylvie

[bitter elk]

I've seen it before but it's still sweet

[elfin ice]

I might pick up Ash again

I just like letting the EX fireballs fly 😂

[muted elm]

Sylvie has EVERYTHING I like in a character

[bitter elk]

Lol

[timid dawn]

wow

[sharp yew]

Except those nasty ass clothes😂

[bitter elk]

Triggered my cl d with that jump

Unfortunate

[timid dawn]

yeah it gets rough with characters like this have to b extra careful

[muted elm]

She kills it

[sharp yew]

Not with her 14 outfit

15 outfit works though

[muted elm]

I like her 14 outfit more than her 15 one I think

[sharp yew]

[bitter elk]

Nice

My execution is failing me right now.

[muted elm]

Let her cook

[timid dawn]

just sip some water and relax your muscles

breathe in, then breathe out

[bitter elk]

Lol

[timid dawn]

take a moment and stand if need be

Remember the basics of Kyokugen

[elfin ice]

New Daru arc

[bitter elk]

Thank you kibdly

Nice read

[timid dawn]

tbh I assume all Ryos are gonna do it

just by default

[bitter elk]

This is a great stage song

[timid dawn]

Yeah it was

This my theme song fr

[bitter elk]

Lol

[timid dawn]

lol ok

I get it

[bitter elk]

Sorry

[timid dawn]

I understand

[bitter elk]

I was scared

[timid dawn]

The woman is deadly

[bitter elk]

That vanessa was brutal

Beat me senseless

[timid dawn]

I've taken some of my worst L's to Vanessa tbh

I think I can say

[sharp yew]

@ me whenever you're on🫵
Just not for then entirety of next week cuz im gonna be out of town and away from le ps5 smh

[elfin ice]

ducking me Dyl. I wanted to FT10 you next week

[timid dawn]

nice Ryo reset

that caught me off guard entirely

[bitter elk]

Lol thanks

[timid dawn]

And the supers

that was funny

[bitter elk]

Agreed

[sharp yew]

says the guy who fought two matches and dipped after winning one

[bitter elk]

Nice

No

Damn it

[timid dawn]

No

what happn

[bitter elk]

I picked the wrong team

Kukri.....

[timid dawn]

Kukri seems fun

what don't you like about him?

[bitter elk]

I dont like how fast you have to play as him

[timid dawn]

def not for everyone

Idk how those supers did not connect

that was so ugly

[bitter elk]

He sure isnt. Hes fun but its just too high octane for me

Yeah that was odd

I guess I should start cancelling those parrries

[timid dawn]

might as well

you hit a lot of them

can be kinda tight timing tho

I already know how it is

[bitter elk]

I keep thinking I can get a big punish and go for CL c but then I get dummied

Nice

I couldn't get anything going there

[timid dawn]

I would like to see you get more aggressive with RYO

[bitter elk]

Hmmmmm

[timid dawn]

[bitter elk]

I'm pretty much at my max with him.

That's maximum ryp

Ryo

[timid dawn]

hmmmm

[bitter elk]

I agree

I need to be more rush down.

[timid dawn]

this game rewards that playstyle

[bitter elk]

It does

[timid dawn]

so you're a chipp player

[bitter elk]

Lol i know. The irony is not lost on me.

[timid dawn]

it be like that

you'll never guess my main in strive

[bitter elk]

I actually played chipp slower than most

[timid dawn]

shoto chipp

[bitter elk]

But I was pretty good when I played it regularly

Nah I played it slow until I scored the knockdown then it was chipp things

[timid dawn]

nice

I literally haven't played strive in a millennia

[bitter elk]

Same

Terrible

[timid dawn]

I have a weapon

[bitter elk]

Indeed

[timid dawn]

unfair battle

brought a sword to a fistfight

[bitter elk]

Damn.

I could not beat that character

Unreal

[timid dawn]

need to be careful of whiffing attacks against those ones

that's the one thing they excel at is whiff punish

[bitter elk]

I see

[timid dawn]

obviously the drawback is weapon hurtbox

and other janky stuff

[bitter elk]

That parry lasts forever

[timid dawn]

super active

[bitter elk]

I can make a sandwich in that time

[timid dawn]

lol

[bitter elk]

One

Doh

Well played

[timid dawn]

Same to you

I wanted you to not lose to Billy

[bitter elk]

Lol

[timid dawn]

I tried with him but he just an L

[bitter elk]

Is that why you didnt block at all with him?

[timid dawn]

I got hit out my stick

[bitter elk]

Haha I see

That grab has some range

[timid dawn]

these grapplers aren't a joke

[bitter elk]

Uh huh

Lame

Lame

Lol

[timid dawn]

U dont like chris ?

He's so evil

[bitter elk]

He sure is.

No I dont mind him.

I couldn't get anything going.

It was another shut down round.

Ugh

[timid dawn]

I'm a Kula main

[bitter elk]

Somebody get the license plate on that truck?

I got one more then I think I should call it

[timid dawn]

ok cool

[bitter elk]

I'll finish this set and that will be it.

My mind is going to mush.

[timid dawn]

it be like that

been playing for a hot min anyways

so yeah good call

[bitter elk]

Yup

How do you hit those jump ins so consistently?

[timid dawn]

have to hit them deep

and a bit late

rather than early

[bitter elk]

I miss mine 9 times out of 10

Well that was terrible.

I have no idea how you hit those so consistently.

[timid dawn]

I wish there was a visual cue I could give, but its really more of hitting the attack buttons like after you've landed a bit further down on their character

[bitter elk]

I've been practicing jump ins since release and it always goes like that. Then is see all these players land them like it's nothing. Unreal.

[timid dawn]

Keep at it though, you did manage to get a lot in the time we did play. Consistency is the most rewarding though

[bitter elk]

I understand that it needs to be deep but I dunno

[timid dawn]

And yeah it's literally that

the light ones have less hitstun

heavy ones should be easier

[bitter elk]

Nah I missed 99 percent of .y jump ins. Ryo is the only one I can get conversions with.

[timid dawn]

Ryo confirms were pretty good from the jumps

Rock you had the combo after the EX shoulder but yeah I didn't see much jump in confirms

[bitter elk]

Yeah that's about it. Rock and king are complete crap shoots

Yeah I confirm off of far c with rock

[timid dawn]

Have to make the most of those jump in attacks though

[bitter elk]

Jump ins are non existent with rock

[timid dawn]

cause you caught quite a few

can be something you practice over time

shouldn't take you long once you catch the rhythm for this

Especially when its universal

[bitter elk]

I've been playing this game off and on since release and jump in timing is still a massive problem for me.

[timid dawn]

Is it an issue with your controller or no?

[bitter elk]

I practice it daily but something needs to start clicking because I'm missing a ton of dmg right now.

Not sure. I think it's just. Y in match timing.

My

[timid dawn]

so how often are you able to do it in training

[bitter elk]

I can do it pretty much 100 percent of the time on a random blocking dummy

[timid dawn]

its a mindset thing

[bitter elk]

It must be.

[timid dawn]

tryna think what I heard someone say..

[bitter elk]

I'll watch the tapes.

[timid dawn]

like below the neck or something like that

for jump ins

[bitter elk]

I'm clearly hitting too shallow

[timid dawn]

yea

[bitter elk]

It feels like it has to be lower than just below the neck. It feels like it should be right in the waist.

[timid dawn]

depends on the button

[bitter elk]

Hmmmmm true

[timid dawn]

some characters it literally seems to carry you into the jump ins

Like you'd be a lot higher than normal and it will still combo

[bitter elk]

Rock and king must be really hard to land jump ins the because it's like 90 percent miss after the initial hit from the jump in.

Ryo is about 60 percent when I get the confirm

[timid dawn]

Nah, shouldn't be that hard to hit. Just need to mind how high you jump probably

[bitter elk]

I think you're right

[timid dawn]

Cause a lot of the times I did notice you'd jump attack super high and attack very early

and thats a no go

[bitter elk]

Hmmmm so I'm just getting jumping pokes. I see.

[timid dawn]

Mind the jump arc to where you're falling down

[bitter elk]

I'm okay with that using king but that has to stop with rock. I need those jump ins for rock

[timid dawn]

Indeed

[bitter elk]

King can manage with just pokes imo but rock is no king when it comes to screen control. I need the jump ins to combo.

Alrighty, well daru, you have yourself a kick ass night. Thank you very much for the sets.

[timid dawn]

Like I said b4, this is generally universal so once you get it down with someone, should be able to gauge the timing for a lot of other jump attacks

You can do it

[timid dawn]

And same to you

[simple axle]

Alright I'm bored as hell <@&1057859264267436092>

[autumn ibex]

Still looking?

[simple axle]

Yeah

[autumn ibex]

356662

[simple axle]

Omw

God I hate trying 2C and it doesn't

It's got to be the worst feeling

I'll go once more

Then I'll reflect for like an hour

[autumn ibex]

Ggs

[simple axle]

GGs

I suppose I should ask before I let my thoughts get to me. How am I supposed to take that loss?

Since I took it as I still don't know how to adapt

[unreal wadi]

Hello Everyone!

[autumn ibex]

As a learning opportunity. Everyone loses in these games

[simple axle]

I didn't feel I learned anything from those 10 games. All I understood was "I'm doing something wrong but I have NO idea what" So I just felt like an idiot trying so hard to figure out what to do differently

I know there's something to actually be learned but I can't figure it out, which is why I'm so annoyed

[autumn ibex]

I noticed in the very first game you still really like to go for your A2A. Ask yourself what you’re getting out of that. It’s really unsafe against players who can trip guard or otherwise know to look for it

You also challenged a lot of HKD

Best to assume you’re getting safe jumped after you take one

[bitter elk]

Especially against shunei. That guy has them for days

[simple axle]

So as Joe and Ramon. I don't have any like comfortable anti airs right? Since it's real easy to just jump and land in front of Joe's DP. And I've tried throwing out the Joe 5C and 5D but you just kinda hit so I gave up on that.

And HKDs is just rough because as you saw I got guard broken like 3 times there so at that point isn't blocking just a death sentence for me

I mean I ain't that good at defense in the first place at all. Since I would try to block but I would just get opened up anyways or just have no idea for how to get out. So I just die pretty much

[bitter elk]

Pretty good blocking if you get guard broken 3 times. That's pretty impressive defense.

[autumn ibex]

I’ve told you this before but if you’re getting guard break it’s because you’re not taking your turn back after pressure

Use fast buttons to do this

It’s not about getting a huge combo, just reseting neutral

AA is about spacing and it’s done on reaction not anticipation

You would full jump and throw out an attack at the peak of your jump. After I got hit by a few I realized that was part of your game plan and adjusted

You did successfully use GCR to escape the corner and create some damage. Also don’t forget about GCBB

[simple axle]

I can't react to about anything in this game, since I gotta attempt to measure everything out first. Like I see you jump I tried a number or times to trip guard with both Yamazki and Joe but it just wasn't worth it since I just got hit in the face anyways.

[autumn ibex]

Can’t trip guard hops

[simple axle]

Also on the use light buttons, you blocked ar the end of your turn I can't like do anything to open that up I feel. As with shun you end with red hand which pushes you out of light range so I need to just run directly to you

[simple axle]

I stopped in the middle of my walk. WHAT?

[calm ember]

Yeah you can

[simple axle]

I want to scream

[autumn ibex]

Let’s see you do it Cien

[simple axle]

So it's only full jumps and super jumps

[autumn ibex]

To be clear I’m talking about meaty hops

Still sure about that?

[calm ember]

Then say that

[simple axle]

What the hell is a meaty hop

[calm ember]

If its meaty, that's a whole different situation

On their wakeup

[simple axle]

So it's just a jump in?

[autumn ibex]

You’re knocked down and my button is in active frames while yours is starting up

[calm ember]

But if it's a raw hop for distance or whatever you def can trip guard it

[autumn ibex]

Like I said you challenged a lot of HKD’s

[calm ember]

All jumps have a 1f recovery

[autumn ibex]

I still feel like it would trade if I have a button out. Ask @drowsy silo about trying to trip guard my hops with Luong

Unless my attack completely whiffs in which case it’s more about me screwing up than the skill of my opponent

[simple axle]

Oh on some of them. I tried to DP or roll. And just got like a button. But I guess everyone has safe jumps so I guess I'll just attempt to block

[autumn ibex]

Only full and super jumps where the attack is done too high. Time it low enough and it will hit

[simple axle]

This is obviously a broad statement but so it's useless against like good players

Since I absolutely felt like it was not gonna work on you. Or someone like Poli or Zero

People who know how to like plan their jump ins and such

[autumn ibex]

You can move your character to make them whiff

Everything has a counter

[simple axle]

But then I gotta move in to try and get the punish but by that point you have jumped again.

I was legit astonished by how fast you jumped after just landing

That's wild to me

[autumn ibex]

That’s KOF

Watch high level players, they use movement to deceive and hide their intentions

[drowsy silo]

I’d try to 2C Hkd or try the fastest button and it wouldn’t work! Smoke is a cheater

[simple axle]

I've mentioned this before to people but I don't know how to watch high level players. I do it pretty normally just watching them with the intent to learn something but I just can't see what they're doing better than I am other than "Being good" since I can't see nuance

[autumn ibex]

[simple axle]

Or just like slight things

Just not a skill I have

[autumn ibex]

Just start by watching what they do at round start

[simple axle]

The back dash

[autumn ibex]

What they do when cornered or cornering someone

[autumn ibex]

Nope

That’s not all anyway

Watch how they spend meter

[simple axle]

I might just be to stupid to figure this out

[autumn ibex]

How and when they block and when they challenge

[autumn ibex]

Stop it

Please

[simple axle]

Since I swear, it's SO rare for anyone to use meter to get out of blocking

[autumn ibex]

It takes time to know what to look for, it’s like watching football. The more you know the more interested it is

[simple axle]

It's generally for either fireball or like just regular damage

[autumn ibex]

If you watched replays you’d see defensive meter spending

[simple axle]

I'll tell you though why I feel stupid, since it sounds really easy to pick up or do the things that I'm not doing m and I feel just bad

Since it feels out off the 200 hours I've been playing I should've spent 150 of them studying exclusively how the game works and all that inner workings of every single interaction that can happen

[autumn ibex]

It wasn’t my intention to cause bad feelings, only trying to point you in a helpful direction

These things take time and at 200 hours you’re playing better than a lot of people, myself included

I don’t know what you do in the lab but try this. Take one situation I put you in and recreate it

Then just play around with your characters options and see what you think

It’s for way more than combo practice

[simple axle]

It's fine, it definitely ain't your fault for trying to help. That's on me for just being bad at taking advice I don't fully grasp yet

[covert torrent]

I've definitely been preaching this Tyler it's a good skill to have

[simple axle]

Alright, how do I word this well. I don't know, what I don't know. Even in our game, and I was there for it. I can't exactly list any "situation" I was in. Like I was in the corner against Shun, that borders into what are Shun's block strings and where's the gap. So I'd be studying all of Shun's frame data, or like just Yuri jumping over me, if I could react to it, the answer is cross cut DP or like roll forward but I couldn't react to it. I'm really bad at figuring out why I lost

I understand the concept of what you're telling me, I just can't like take the situation if I don't exactly understand the situation that happened in the first place

[calm ember]

What I do is look at the surrounding factors, in order of a priority system. For example:

1. Space
   Where you are on the stage? Are you/the opponent in the corner or not? What's the distance between you two?

2. Time
   What was the action prior before the one you're struggling with? So say you have a hard time dealing with........ idk, let's say it's Yashiro cross up jumb C. What was he doing beforehand? Was it after his dash punch, a raw jump, anything else? Refer to space in this too, close/far, in the corner and so on. Try and find a trend, if you see consistency it my be a set up or that's their tick/pattern and you can use that against them.
   BE CAREFUL since this is how conditioning is set up, too. It'll be up to your experience and judgment to determine whether you're being baited or not.

3. Misc take note of the time, how much health is there on either side, number of remaining characters and other factors you learn to look out for. This is not as important as the first two in my personal opinion but you'll be all the better player for it.

[bitter elk]

Point 2 is pretty interesting @calm ember

I'll remember that.

[half hill]

KOF feels impossible, then after enough time things just happen and youll be able to do it

[drowsy silo]

Like short hopping and hit confirms

[half hill]

i think light confirms is the main confidence builder

when i started i thought, how in the hell will i ever get close enough to get multiple crouching lights in?

then remember to combo?

shit just takes time

[drowsy silo]

Facts

[bitter elk]

@timid dawn I need more whoopings. Let me know if you want to run some sets.

[bitter elk]

How ppl play this game so fast and hit every jump in is crazy to me. I'm getting old.

[unreal wadi]

Hello Everyone!

[bitter elk]

Gday

[surreal zodiac]

<@&1057859264267436092>

[bitter elk]

I'll play ya!

[bitter elk]

<@&1057859264267436092> I require more macaroni pictures!

Tough crowd.

[river lichen]

<@&1057859264267436092>

[simple axle]

You still looking?

[river lichen]

Yea, the room code is 473188

[simple axle]

Alright I didn't get a notification for that omw

[unreal wadi]

I could entertain you if you still looking @river lichen

[simple axle]

I gotta stop typing the codes here

[simple axle]

I got one more in me before I take a break

This summer heat is garbage

Snow, I'm sorry but that has to go on Twitter

[river lichen]

PRESERVED INPUTS

[simple axle]

GGs Snow

[river lichen]

Ggs Tyler

I can't react to anything today lmao

[simple axle]

Unrelated note, I hate Joe's DP the more I use it since it's not Ryu's

Which is weird, but that's how I've been trying to use and it's just not worth

[simple axle]

Man, if I gotta pick a slightly different shoto like I'm going to not him

I probably would just go to Robert and cry about my damage being sad

[covert torrent]

Ryo is mad simple and does the same amount of damage Iori can

what is their not to like

[simple axle]

What's there not to like. He doesn't have a full screen fireball

It's that's weird puff of fire out in front him that his sister does right?

[covert torrent]

You do not want ryo with a fullscreen fireball

[river lichen]

Ryo does not need a fullscreen fireball lol

[covert torrent]

His fireballs have a different use than most with the exception of ex fireball

Maybe I should learn Ryo since King sees something in him

[simple axle]

All I'm saying is I need Yuri's DP on Joe for anit fireball things

"Jump ins"

[covert torrent]

You probably need to use his dp in a different spot then

[river lichen]

You can probably just neutral jump CD

[bitter elk]

@timid dawn let's run some sets when you have a moment.

[timid dawn]

sure. gimmie like 20/30 mins if u still around

[bitter elk]

Oh I'll be around......I'll be around.....forever. heh....heh. lol jk but yeah that works for me.

[bitter elk]

Mmmmmhmmmmm

[timid dawn]

@bitter elk

[bitter elk]

M'yes

[timid dawn]

im back at home now

So if you want to play I can play

[bitter elk]

Let's do it up. I've got something in the kitchen for you this time.

417305

Slushy road baby!

[timid dawn]

slushy road

[bitter elk]

Well played. Well played

What on earth happened there. Ma combuuu

[timid dawn]

Take a chance

Carve your path

Don't wonder

[bitter elk]

Noice.

I still cant handle the corner pressure

Neutral is a little better. But the corner gets me

[timid dawn]

Don't forget about the defensive meter spending

blowback and gc roll

[half hill]

runs? <@&1057859264267436092>

[bitter elk]

I'm aware but I need the first block. I keep guessing wrong and eating the first attack

[timid dawn]

if you had've kicked me away we'd be back in neutral and you out of corner

yeah definitely

[bitter elk]

Its getting the first block that is tricky for me and once i do get it I'm sure you'll start baiting lol

Poor ryo

[timid dawn]

It's good when you turn up the way you do at times

[bitter elk]

Yeah when I get going I've got some stuff

Damn.

I felt good there.

I need better corner defense.

But also I need to avoid putting myself I the corner.

Wakeup dp was off

I think that would have worked

Lol why did I back dash there?

There was no need for that. Lol

[timid dawn]

fr

it be like that sometimes

[bitter elk]

Yup

I really like your pressure. Ita really hard to get a bead on.

You change things up very well also

Bad read there

I feel like I was conditioned there pretty hard

Run up grab was the indicator to me.

[timid dawn]

Won't know until you go

[bitter elk]

Nice. That went better for me .

I liked my defense there.

Again that back dash. I need to stop doing that

Ita obviously not faking anyone out lol

I'm trying to mix up my movement. But I dont have a plan yet.

Shingo kick is tough to deal with.

That seems to be a big neutral tool for him.

[timid dawn]

Helps against fireballs and ppl jumping out of range definitely

[bitter elk]

The high one is the toughest to deal will.

Hmm.

[timid dawn]

and its just me jumping and doing it, he can do it while jumping and backdashing

[bitter elk]

Lol

That time I did want to back dash

And I cant beleive I couldn't punish dino with a cl c

Dino was on a roll there. Well played

[timid dawn]

Dino is so fun

And I'm not crazy about grapplers

[bitter elk]

Rock needs to put in some work.

[timid dawn]

yeah

[bitter elk]

Hes falling behind

Lol

I tried to parry it

[timid dawn]

I've seen someone try to do this recently

he parried like a few of them

Tiago did

[bitter elk]

Yeah that was herman

[timid dawn]

gotta watch that jump height

[bitter elk]

Hmmm?

On what sorry?

[timid dawn]

I immediately can punish if you land after jumping too high

That's also why you were struggling with the jump ins thing too

I see it happening often

[bitter elk]

Oh yeah yes you're right

[timid dawn]

esp with King

[bitter elk]

It was. I watched a bunch of replays and it was obvious

I'm not too concerned with king but rock needs the jump ins.

[timid dawn]

they both can use it, if you catch them its big dmg

[bitter elk]

The punishable jump ins are something I obviously want to avoid

[timid dawn]

but

[bitter elk]

But a poke from king is fine I i

I think Phoenix arrow is fake.

Should have taken my turn back there

I was pressing 5a every time. The block stun is difficult with that move

[timid dawn]

you can grab light one (sometimes), heavy is super punishable, and EX is safe

so really u cant punish light one with jab I've never seen it at least

[bitter elk]

I'm going to lab that.

[timid dawn]

yeah grab maybe if shes super close

[bitter elk]

I think cross ups should be universally difficult.

The characters that can just run up and do them are not very fun to play against.

[timid dawn]

I agree

[bitter elk]

Oh congrats you got me with that sweet cross up

Are you mashing jab when you see roll or when my jump sails over your head?

I just want to know if that's what I'm supposed to do when that situation arises.

[timid dawn]

I see roll, I'm going for a punish immediately esp when you do it right when I'm watching you

[bitter elk]

Ok how about jumps that are miss aimed?

[timid dawn]

same thing

this is like free punish at that point

well not free

[bitter elk]

Really?

[timid dawn]

but you are vulnerable

[bitter elk]

That seems crazy to men

[timid dawn]

so this is where i can get more dmg

just chill out for a moment and we can stop if you want

[bitter elk]

That was supposed to be ex tatsu

[timid dawn]

unless you're still going

[bitter elk]

I'm still going. I'll take beating after beating.

[timid dawn]

wow

[bitter elk]

I'm impressed at how well you play.

[timid dawn]

Yeah but I don't want this to just be a "me" showcase I would like for it to be somewhat beneficial to you as well

[bitter elk]

Like how stopped short of that dp. I couldn't beleive that

[timid dawn]

well maybe it is idk

[bitter elk]

In think I'm getting better tbh.

Rock just needs more work

I have some tricks with rock but I'm not at that point where I can use them.

[timid dawn]

Some tricks u say

[bitter elk]

Need to get his basics down first

[timid dawn]

have to fight within his range

[bitter elk]

Yeah nothing special but they're kind of cool

[timid dawn]

The king is pretty good spacing

[bitter elk]

I have an idea what I want to do with rock.

It's the jump ins with rock. I definitely am doing them way too high

I think ita going to be a tough ha it to break.

Habit

That reflect was luck. Admit it.

That was so close.

[timid dawn]

I was waiting on that lol

[bitter elk]

That's not where I throw my ex though.

[timid dawn]

Wym

[bitter elk]

That was a lot closer tha normal.

I usually do them raw from a point where I can confirm into super

That was a lot closer for me. I cant beleive you read that lol

lolThat's crazy

[timid dawn]

[bitter elk]

Counter hit far c into ex tatsu failed.

That sucked

Now that really sucked

[unreal wadi]

Hello Everyone!

[timid dawn]

hop in combo

[bitter elk]

Yeah that was my first one I got on you.

[timid dawn]

lets keep getting more of those

[bitter elk]

Its not for a lack of trying.

You just block all my hops. Even the rehops

[timid dawn]

ok I'll stop blocking them

Lets see

[bitter elk]

How you block the re hops is beyond me. I'm too predictable

Lol no dont do that

Jumps were too high

[timid dawn]

yep

[bitter elk]

Hmmmm

I'm dropping supers pretty hard

[timid dawn]

pick them up before they fall

[bitter elk]

I think they already have

[timid dawn]

well lets pick them back up

I'll help

[bitter elk]

The super drops after light zanretsuken is troubling

[timid dawn]

I bet

[bitter elk]

That's like the easiest confirm lol

[timid dawn]

you ever do them pre-emptively?

and hold the input

[bitter elk]

I do sometimes

[timid dawn]

Just making sure, they give us leeway

[bitter elk]

Depends on the combo

[timid dawn]

I do sometimes as well

yep

[bitter elk]

I think I'm coming to an end now.

That drop was so dumb

And that's it for me. That drop was too much.

I'm dropping everything now.

Too much kof I think.

[timid dawn]

ok ggs, any questions or concerns please contact me on discord at @timid dawn

[bitter elk]

Nah im good. Ggs

[timid dawn]

@bitter elk Don't be too hard on yourself, you can literally grow incrementally as I'm sure we've both seen happen

And whatever bs happens can be ironed out

[bitter elk]

I'm not being hard on myself though. I started dropping everything in the end. That's time for me to call it quits

[timid dawn]

maybe

What if we had've played one more and you didn't drop at all that game

not saying that we have to

but still

[bitter elk]

Its counter productive to continue playing when combos are dropping that much. Its your body telling you to take a break.

[timid dawn]

hmm I see what you mean

if its something you can physically tell

[bitter elk]

I feel like I've made more ground today. I know what I need to work on and there are a couple things i need to think about.

King is doing pretty good. Ryo is damn solid imo
Rock is a liability that needs work.

If I get rock to ryos level then I may start taking games off your weaker characters

[timid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-your-attitude-brett-watkins-younger-i-like-your-thinking-good-attitude-to-have-gif-21452297

[bitter elk]

Jump ins are still an issue that I'll keep looking at. I at least now know the problem for sure. Pressing too early.

I think I have this feeling that I'm just too vulnerable in the air if I dont have an attack out.

[timid dawn]

Well yeah, there is no air block

but this game has hop so its not as damaging to jump as maybe SF

can make it a bit more ambiguous when jumping as there are many jump speeds etc

[bitter elk]

Yep. And I still think you were lucky as all hell when you reflected my ex fireball with ryo.

Lol

[timid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world-gif-25176453

[bitter elk]

Lol surrrrre

Anyway. Ggs good sir @timid dawn You're a scholar and a gentleman.

[timid dawn]

wow thank you so much for being open minded and a good sport

[surreal zodiac]

Anyone down to ham

<@&1057859264267436092>

[simple axle]

<@&1057859264267436092> I do not have a lot of time

[surreal zodiac]

<@&1057859264267436092> anyone down

[bitter elk]

@surreal zodiac I'll play ya.

[surreal zodiac]

Bet!!

[bitter elk]

Did you want to make the room?

[surreal zodiac]

489866

[bitter elk]

Alrighty.

[drowsy silo]

Play GAHTOE

[surreal zodiac]

I will if you join

[bitter elk]

Well played

[surreal zodiac]

An-hel

I was like kg this isn't fair

[bitter elk]

Uhhh

Lol

[surreal zodiac]

Tfw your button gets stuck

OMG

[bitter elk]

Lol

I was wondering

[surreal zodiac]

Ash is ass today I guess

Can't even do the simple shit

[bitter elk]

You're doing hard combos imo

[surreal zodiac]

That's all Ash

[bitter elk]

Lol I see

Heiden is another tough character

[smoky comet]

<@&1057859264267436092> let's try this again

[bitter elk]

Nice

[covert torrent]

You still looking Lou?

[smoky comet]

I am

[covert torrent]

I can boot up then

I wanna try out some new characters I've been messing around with in training mode

[smoky comet]

Worth a shot.

I'm rusty rn, but I can still be a decent guinea pig

[bitter elk]

Well done.

[smoky comet]

975945

[covert torrent]

it's fine

[bitter elk]

Greasy. Good set.

Wait how many is this.

Lol

Whew

Lol

[surreal zodiac]

Wanna keep going?

[bitter elk]

Wish I could use kukri like that.

Sure I can play some more.

[surreal zodiac]

I swore I did ft7

Bruh

[bitter elk]

I liked your kukri the most.

[surreal zodiac]

Thanks haha

[bitter elk]

Heidern was a close second

[surreal zodiac]

I really enjoy your Ryo

Interesting too see

[bitter elk]

Lol thx

[smoky comet]

I love getting full punishes for dropping my 70%+ damage confirms

[unreal wadi]

Henlo!

[bitter elk]

@surreal zodiac who is your main team?

[covert torrent]

I think it's heidern angel and someone else

[surreal zodiac]

I don't really have mian teams just characters tbh

I just between, Angel, Kuk, Heid, King, Ash, Dino, Nako

[bitter elk]

I liked the king fireballs. That's hard to do.

[smoky comet]

I feel a lot more loosened up after a drink

[bitter elk]

Whew

[surreal zodiac]

You seem hesitant to approach

[bitter elk]

Sometimes.

I'm trying to get better at it.

And when I try to approach I lose to these scrambles.

So you can see why I'm hesitant to aporoach

I like control

Problem is I let ppl approach for free and then i get run over lol

[surreal zodiac]

Ggs Hun!!

[bitter elk]

Lol ggs. Thx for the marches.

@timid dawn let's run some more sets when you have time. I require.....more macaroni pictures.

[smoky comet]

You can understand why it's difficult for me to be positive after that set, right?

Ggs

[covert torrent]

No I can't

Ggs Lou

[smoky comet]

Well, I'm not going to get into it

But I will say if I end a match getting OCV'd and play generally more poorly after a team switch, that says a lot about my lack of mental fortitude.

Lack of adaptability

It's fine

[covert torrent]

I played sloppy as shit myself Lou

[smoky comet]

Oh, cool. So you playing sloppy as shit still completely kicks my ass?

[bitter elk]

Lol oh boy

[covert torrent]

Sheesh you didn't have to take it like that

Point I was trying to make was neither us were on top of our A game

[smoky comet]

You won 5 straight with the last match being an OCV

If that's you playing "sloppy as shit" then I have a lot of work to do

Meanwhile I've still lost every set I've played since June

[bitter elk]

Same here!

[smoky comet]

I thought I was making progress, but if you weren't playing 100% I guess I haven't

[unreal wadi]

Everyone gets ocv once in a while. Learning fighting games is about forgetting about the losses and getting back in the horse. Try to learn from mistakes.

[bitter elk]

I think daru beat me 50 times straight last night

[smoky comet]

Daru beats everyone

If you want an ego boost we can play a ft5 rn

[bitter elk]

But even still there were a couple things I was able to do in a match that I was working on. So theres a win there

[covert torrent]

come on you didn't have to say that lmao

[smoky comet]

I have lost every set I've played here this month. Even the newer players

Idk what's wrong with me rn

It's like I forgot how to win or something

I'm just pissed off rn, don't mind me. I'll get over it. It's just always SOMETHING with me.

[unreal wadi]

You haven't lost to me. That's a plus. 😂

[smoky comet]

Because we haven't played

I know you'll win

[unreal wadi]

If we don't play you will never lose.

[smoky comet]

Oliver literally told me to take notes on how you play

[unreal wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[smoky comet]

So you're so confident you'll win, you don't want to play

I see