KOF Tech

[finite coral]

Also it's most of the new Angels

[proper thunder]

Yea babies who want her to be the best lol

But for balancing reasons she’s built that way

I’m still coping that she may be bottom of the comp later but at least be a rung 😭

[finite coral]

She's more fun now

That's it lmao

Better and more combos I'm happy she is too her old self

I miss those links 💀

[proper thunder]

No I disagree with you completely lol

[finite coral]

What's your take instead of saying disagree 🤣

[proper thunder]

Sayings now gets a 2b 2a to lead to full combo compared to a very light minimal combo doesn’t do shit for her except make her more fun I’d just wrong lol

She’s an improved angel

100 percent

She’s still angel

What people wanted wasn’t angel lol

And you’re saying she’s just more fun I also disagree she’s buffed certainly

[finite coral]

No shit she's buffed I'm not staying she wasn't 💀

[proper thunder]

Yeah and I get that

But you say shit like

Nothing changed she’s just more fun

That’s it that’s all

[finite coral]

Aah

No no

[proper thunder]

When you say stuff like that, that’s what I’m disagreeing with lol

[finite coral]

She's definitely buffed a idiot can see that's she's buffed 💀 returning of her old combos in a new era is exciting as fuck

Idk why they'd didn't give her this in the first place 🤣 not gonna change how she places

Maybe more people will play her as mid instead of point because she already gets high damage without meter. Now you're giving her more meter opt combos

The new babies like you ware eating good asf 🤣

[finite coral]

You also gotta understand I'm not new I forget I've been playing Angel since 02 🙃 I'm like "oh ok that's cool I guess" because I've seen it already and they're just giving old stuff back to her. I deadass don't mean any harm 🤣 just ignore my old ass

So it's new and EXCITING YAAAAY to you guys happygolucky dances around

Not me

[proper thunder]

No lol I get that all love

But sure she may have 02 combos I can’t verify so I’ll just take you at your word

However in 02 she doesn’t have xv combos

Her main bnb doesn’t work in 02

So she’s not just oh now it’s 02 angel let’s go, nah now she’s a mash up of XV and 02 angel

Her only defensive option in normal viable

Her grab is still ass

But yeah she’s overall has the potential to be the very best version of ángel to date

But what some people want isn’t angel lol they want ash execution with rock neutral they’re dumb af

So I think we agree on almost everything @finite coral you just be wording in such a blanket statement or say it dismissively sometimes and that’s we’re we disagree lol

[finite coral]

Her combos were very wonky in 02 SO MUCH stuff that works now didn't work

[proper thunder]

I think it comes down to you said it in a bad way even though we’re saying the same thing lol

[proper thunder]

And vice versa

[finite coral]

But what she has now what what she had in 02UM

46K combo'd during MM among that she had 46K loops 💀

Shit was hard as hell to do 😭

Her 66a would loop in the corner also that's the Angel that I want back

[proper thunder]

Ooh talking about angel

I stole balas 66c combo

Just to find out I’m not bala so I can’t land a 66c

[finite coral]

What u mean? 🤔

[proper thunder]

Bala sometimes ends strings with 66c

[finite coral]

Yeah most of us do

[proper thunder]

Like not in corner, that corner 66c is for the most part the end

I’m talking about 66c in neutral

[finite coral]

It's HKD and gives you mix

Oh hell Howl 🤣🤣

You won't be able to do 66c anymore in neutral so her mix ups via range is more scarce so change your combos up 🤣

I prefer 66c to be a mid

Get more creative

[proper thunder]

No no I mean like bala is a cheeky fuck

He did 2b 2a 46b 2a 6b 66c instead of 236c

Lol

[finite coral]

Oh yeah lmao, he knows the sauce, you should start doing those imo

[proper thunder]

Bad convo but he gets away with it

I can’t you ruin this server

People here just roll out of whatever tf I do lol even when it’s not the right call

[finite coral]

That's a good combo

Angel doesn't have bad converts

Is it fake? Hell yeah 🤣

[proper thunder]

But yeah the one I was learning the notation was

Ángel fuckshit, 66c , 41236bd 8a 6ab 66a 46b 2b 41236b 8b 66b

Hard knockdown and you can side switch before the get up

Sooooo fun

[finite coral]

Yeah she has so many routes off of that one

Literally have 3-5 routes

[proper thunder]

I couldn’t never land 8a for the life of me

I didn’t know why

[finite coral]

You really just need to lab Angel

[proper thunder]

But I learned that 8a is activated at the end of the run

Which threw me off

[finite coral]

Like.... I'm tired of giving you shit

[proper thunder]

Sideswitch 6b you do instantly

Sideswitch 8b same

You cancel the run into unchain

That’s how she works

[finite coral]

Yeah you gotta be QUICK

[proper thunder]

But with 8a you do the whole run then at the end you do 8a

So I’m so used to be quick af or you drop

So 8a threw me the fuck off learning that you actually drop for being quick

[finite coral]

Mmmmm I understand what you mean

It's worse on smaller characters

So refrain from it on Yuri and Chris it'll will link but it's more wonky

[proper thunder]

Yup especially when you do an 8a 66c ender, omg. You have to be late af on both 8a and 66c

You do it too early neither connect

[finite coral]

I'm assuming your writing all this for yourself? 💀

[proper thunder]

You do it too late 66c goes off when they’re on the floor

Yeah just angel rants lol

Dumb ass fucking character

Give her a fireball already

[finite coral]

NRS character man

[proper thunder]

Angel should have the peoples eyebrow and throw the peoples microphone as a projectile

I’m still mad we don’t have 02 counter animation

That is the buff we need

[main wagon]

#snk-fighting-games @proper thunder

[hollow mason]

@stiff veldt we were talking about the change to DP a couple days ago. Check this out (ignore the first run up attempt where Yuri gets thrown)

So I was going for run up 3A > 3D and still got DP

Notice the stick was fully neutral for 8 frames, down for 2 frames, and diagonal for 3 before I hit the button. Still got DP. I know I know, skill issues but that seems…excessively generous. Wonder if that’s what’s getting changed

Iow we may still have to do 2369 for run up fireball etc and 6236 may still work for DP but we might not get as many not so happy accidents

[pastel isle]

It is well known that KOF XV is really forgiving with inputs, the buffer system in there is huge

This is to make it more beginner friendly

Actually XV got me so used to those windows that when playing 02 again I couldn't do proper combos, had to move my hands faster

[stiff veldt]

[hollow mason]

Yeah I know just saying that SNK stated they were changing the buffer for DP’s but that could mean a lot of things like what I said or what you said

I just think that if I let the stick go to neutral for nearly 1/6 of a second the input buffer should reset but just my opinion

[pastel isle]

Got it, yeah they could either expand or reduce that window

[hollow mason]

It said it would “make it harder for accidental 623 inputs” but yeah we will see at midnight PST

[pastel isle]

Will you stay awake for the patch?

[hollow mason]

I’m gonna try!

[proper thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-yor-yor-forger-loid-forger-a-mimir-gif-25631874

I’m in bed at 9pm sharp

[winged basalt]

Was I tagged here?

[hollow mason]

If you swipe right on a chat you can click the bell icon at the bottom of the screen to see where you’ve been tagged or what roles you have that got pinged

[winged basalt]

That's the thing

It doesn't show up

Prompting me to ask

[modest timber]

https://twitter.com/GenesisDC02/status/1615291859244294147?s=20&t=MJfIqwMY4rt-Y6VnId7MhA

❄️ GenesisDC ❄️ (@GenesisDC02)

Isla can hyper hop over standing characters now you motherfuckers are in trouble.

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Twitter · Jan 17, 2023, 10:16 AM

[modest timber]

https://twitter.com/AngelFreak_/status/1615266388440133641?s=20&t=gPD8_-is42L3jJHhjxfuUA

RIP Clark j.D

[pastel isle]

That's sad

[modest timber]

https://twitter.com/tappmk01/status/1615278068993789953?s=20&t=BTOhocjqOjNaHJ_eKcUrzw

Tapp @ DRAW SOMETHING PLEASE YOU GOD DAMN FUCK (@tappmk01)

He is finally free
#KOFXV_BILLY #KOFXV

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Twitter · Jan 17, 2023, 9:21 AM

Hope y’all had your fun while it lasted

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/frionel26/status/1615297206986194945?s=21

Sounds like a must learn @foggy mango @slow steeple

Leona 4bar almost tod combo @stiff veldt @foggy mango https://vxtwitter.com/kurinyankof/status/1615286817372229633?s=21

[stiff veldt]

"New" as in related to the patch??

[sage pulsar]

900 damage 4 bar Shingo combo. Looks very doable I’m gonna try to learn this https://vxtwitter.com/fighterscafe/status/1615338343495258114?s=21

[sage pulsar]

Yeah I think it’s mostly due to the max mode gaining meter

So it’s an old combo with additional super

[stiff veldt]

[foggy mango]

that link from 5A to Cr.C is tight af but that combo is so sick

(On Leona combo)

also GODDAMN THAT KYO OS

Kyo Army is eating

They said he was nerfed

NAH

[marble sluice]

Yeah Kyo is nice, his only nerfs were for mashing lol

[foggy mango]

Also this red color is so cute is this a mod????

[marble sluice]

why did they do Krohnen like this though? He's not even usable anymore

I wanted to keep using him nerfed

[sage pulsar]

He has new routes

https://vxtwitter.com/infernokong/status/1615383176636932097?s=21

900 damage using 2.5 bars for Antonov

Seems like for some characters, it’s worth learning to muscle memory MM after a blocked dp from safe jump

[foggy mango]

Yeah seems like Max Mode is way more useful rn

Antonov is so cool

Well everyone

We had our fun w/ Quick Max

But it’s Max Mode time

[sage pulsar]

That crumple from ex whale seems new. Should help him a lot

[foggy mango]

I wonder if Safe Jump into blocked reversal MM activation is gonna be the new swag

Would be deranged

But epic

[sage pulsar]

Yeah I think it definitely will be. And it will make tourneys hype

[foggy mango]

gigantic punishes in store

Every tourney on some Ash shit

[sage pulsar]

It will be super fun to watch

[foggy mango]

Crossing my fingers !!! 🤞

[astral basalt]

Yay!

[astral basalt]

I think I always been a antonov main

[sage pulsar]

Luong apparently has new routes from jC hit confirms

Also damage got buffed major

[sage pulsar]

Isla has the Iori taco now

[astral basalt]

Yup it’s cool

Luong has dp super now

[sage pulsar]

Your gonna be so OD now. Scary Luong and Isla now. Yuri too

Extra scary

Already scary before

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/papepo_arespida/status/1615354901651161090?s=21

Luong is a mix up monster now. I almost didn’t want to share this because I don’t want people using that dirty side switch on me

@astral basalt @proper thunder

If either of you learn this and do it against me. I’m never playing against you again

[proper thunder]

that’s going in the vault

[foggy mango]

Oh awesome…. Getting crossed up by Luong….

[sage pulsar]

Not only is it a side switch. It’s a side switch into a low. No way anyone is blocking that. It’s a double side switch too. It’s so dirty

[foggy mango]

Luong is my Clark

I hate fighting her

[sage pulsar]

Her buttons are so fast and now they’ve given her more mixup tools

[foggy mango]

I should be a tier whore / and real life whore and pick her up

[hollow mason]

Yo I was right about DP’s 🤘

[foggy mango]

Picking up Team Secret Agent would be cool tbh

[sage pulsar]

Yeah mm after blocked dp from safe jump seems like a very valid tech now

[sage pulsar]

You need to learn Mary as well

[hollow mason]

What’s MM?

[sage pulsar]

Max mode

[foggy mango]

She’s next up on my list after Geese at this point

[hollow mason]

Oh yeah nice! Is it faster now? I was talking up run up lows, with some characters it was really easy to get a DP so you basically couldn’t run up without stopping your run which kinda kills the element of surprise

[foggy mango]

List rn is
WORK ON:

1. K’
2. Vanessa
   LEARN:
3. Geese
4. Mary
5. Luong
6. B Jenet
   RE-EXAMINE
7. Gato
8. Krohnen

Shingo is also on there too

[sage pulsar]

No it’s not faster. You just gain meter on max mode which allows for new tod combos

[sage pulsar]

Have fun! I think learning and labbing is part of the enjoyment. You don’t have to play matches all the time

[hollow mason]

Ah gotcha saw that in the video but haven’t tried it yet

[astral basalt]

Damn

[hollow mason]

Love me some lab time. Is it just because I’m new, or is this a huge huge huge overhaul compared to other games

[sage pulsar]

It’s normal

Strive got whole system change in their last patch. Rev2 completely overhauled the gameplay from sign

[sage pulsar]

Don’t do this against me since I shared the tech with you

[astral basalt]

I can do the short hop 214 ex BD combo

But not consistently

😭🤫

||yet||

It’s a must know now

[sage pulsar]

Do it against howl or cherry but don’t do it against me please

https://vxtwitter.com/lgrinta/status/1615289321552220161?s=21

A doable yamazaki tod combo @main wagon

[foggy mango]

Holy shit

Yamazaki 😳

[hollow mason]

Ok dang! Can’t wait to get home in a couple hours to play till my fingers hurt lol

[astral basalt]

You know what? I won’t I got you king!😌

[sage pulsar]

Thank you!!!🙌🙌🙌

[proper thunder]

I’m doing it on everyone

[foggy mango]

Another reason to not accept games from Howl

[sage pulsar]

Not me. Cause I’m gonna dodge you

https://vxtwitter.com/frionel26/status/1615288555974057985?s=21 @foggy mango learn this

[proper thunder]

Nothing new tbh

Y’all hate me

[foggy mango]

Okay!

Comboing off of hitgrab so wild

For a second a few months ago I was tryna lab like CD OS hit grab into the Maiden Masher super but it’s so tight I gave up

a deranged thing to try and hit mid match

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/joels4s/status/1615280069852667904?s=21 new shun tech @hollow mason

[foggy mango]

I wonder if cancelling hit grab into that other super is easier

[sage pulsar]

Because I don’t hate you completely, here’s some mai tech https://vxtwitter.com/purifyws/status/1615294026223083520?s=21

[proper thunder]

Thanks oli

Blessed

[foggy mango]

Because I don’t hate you completely LMFAO

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/piyokei_0210/status/1615366005114699776?s=21 did Ryo just do 2 lvl 2 back to back using only a dp in between? Lol @pastel isle @main wagon

[foggy mango]

Ryo da goat

[sage pulsar]

I think that counter into 646p is new as well with this patch

[foggy mango]

Season 2 is awesome lol

[sage pulsar]

@pastel isle Please do this combo after the counter against @marble sluice

[marble sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-do-saturday-night-live-i-didnt-do-anything-what-happened-whats-wrong-gif-20220837

[pastel isle]

Whaaaaaaaaat

[sage pulsar]

It’s just Jack is your rival and he’s a Ryo player lol

[pastel isle]

Yes, usually you could only use 214BD or 623AC after the counter to properly interrupt, other moves used to get punished

[marble sluice]

Jack is also a Clark player so I don't play with him anymore 🤣

[pastel isle]

You're awesome bro

[foggy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-am-yes-i-am-gif-4799231

[pastel isle]

That's an OS if I ever seen one

[foggy mango]

I’ll play any Clark player I don’t care

[marble sluice]

KOF needs block lists, I'd block every single one of them. Even if he came up on random 😂

[pastel isle]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-pussy-scared-coward-gif-24350291

[sage pulsar]

@proper thunder @astral basalt Pako showing the same Luong corner combo. You can just end it with the super https://vxtwitter.com/tc_pak0/status/1615303966564442112?s=21

Why is this a tod lol @marble sluice https://vxtwitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/1615349640555290624?s=21

Maybe I should be a maxima main

[winged basalt]

THATS A TOD?!

[marble sluice]

I gotta admit SNK went way too far buffing Maxima

[sage pulsar]

4 hit tod combo

[winged basalt]

Oh they JUICED this man

Maxima anchor mirrors here we GOOOOOO

[sage pulsar]

Vapor canon into vapor canon into lvl 2 vapor canon into climax

[mossy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/maxima-kof-king-of-fighters-kofxv-gif-24373122

[marble sluice]

You can accidentally pull off (not TOD) combos with Maxima now

[sage pulsar]

This is potentially the new krohnen dp into dp into dp super combo. You can’t jump in against maxima with meter now

[sage pulsar]

No way you can be scared of Clark anymore after this

Maxima MIGHT really be meta and it’s no longer a joke

[marble sluice]

I'm not scared of Clark, even if I win it's not fun. He sucks the fun out of the game 🤣

[mossy acorn]

That toxic

[marble sluice]

I didn't want to make the comparison to Krohnen, but yeah Maxima is almost there with the braindead combos now

[sage pulsar]

Even without the climax, it’s 700 damage for 2 bars

[sage pulsar]

Yeah which is why I told Tripp and howl to never use it against me or I’m forever dodging them lol

[sage pulsar]

You picked the right guy and no one can accuse you of chasing meta since you picked him before the patch

[foggy mango]

SNK be like YOU GET A TOD YOU GET A TOD YOU GET A TOD

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/busterwolf_r/status/1615440228235239426?s=21 @languid holly

[sage pulsar]

Seems like a tod combo for terry is doable here after some workarounds

[languid holly]

NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE

that's huge

Maybe. Or like, 90%. 1.1 touch if you have 5 bars

[proper thunder]

Yeah

[languid holly]

I can already do that loop pretty steady so I'll definitely try it tonight

[proper thunder]

But no backwards hat

So it can’t be that cool

[languid holly]

loops + terry damage == backwards hat OS

[proper thunder]

I wish bala streamed

[sage pulsar]

It’ll be fun watching everyone here use the new tech.

[proper thunder]

Except howl

Because howl tech is sweaty apparently

[sage pulsar]

Luong got a lot of new sauce. Seems the choice is pretty clear in Luong vs chizuru

[proper thunder]

Did Chiz get sauce?

[sage pulsar]

Haven’t seen any vids

Her biggest buff is the timer thing with the seal super

[proper thunder]

[sage pulsar]

Plus her 2 big normals got nerfed

Oh she got the new OTG thing I guess lol

[proper thunder]

Ooh

I’ve always wanted an otg

[marble sluice]

or Buster Wolf

[hollow mason]

Dope! You could always do this but the whole move had to come out (so timing it was a guess) now we can cancel before the attack happens 🔥💎

[hollow mason]

So basically have max mode locked and loaded for him huh?

[sage pulsar]

He doesn’t even need max mode. Unless you meant max mode against him.

[hollow mason]

Yes against him

[sage pulsar]

Haha yeah

We’ll see. It’ll depend on how good it is against jump ins

[hollow mason]

I feel like it might be fun/worthwhile for us all to lab out some max mode stuff and then pair up in the lab so we can try it out in a lower stakes environment

Also get some reps in

[proper thunder]

@sage pulsar I stole tech

Angel corner reset

Into ex grab

You can’t roll out of it

Beats dp

[sage pulsar]

We all steal tech

[proper thunder]

Only way to stop it is by jumping, but jumping is usually the very very last thing anyone has in their mind against angel

[sage pulsar]

Sounds scary

[proper thunder]

Essentially it’s 66a ender in corner which is her launcher

Into Cl.d reset

[sage pulsar]

Are you home labbing already?

[proper thunder]

214a whiff 8a whiff

Ex grab

[proper thunder]

No sadly

At work so I’m looking up all the tech I can

Imma actually take this labbing stuff seriously

No more techless howl

I think it’s time I start incorporating more tech into my characters

Like have any of you guys noticed I have 1 mai combo? I don’t even change it up for corners

[foggy mango]

Damn I can’t do this shit

I can never get the cancel from DP into super to work after EX rekka in these combos

The cancel into Level 2 like fireball thing isn’t too bad tho

[sage pulsar]

Can you skip the dp and just go straight to super?

Less damage but easier execution

[foggy mango]

https://youtu.be/2z3dpYH0z1U

Yes you can!

You can even do this!!

[sage pulsar]

That makes it really easy now even if it’s not tod

[foggy mango]

And I mean… say you land this after a few hits in match…. Basically TOD

[sage pulsar]

Yep!

Only problem is you need 5 bars

[hollow mason]

This is actually ok imo, because the best combo is the one you hit a majority of the time. I only recently broke this because Yuri has an insane .5 corner route but now have to go back and learn ones for Shun and Liz

You’re killing it bro keep up the good work

[sage pulsar]

Very easy Dino tod combo off a shatterstrike https://vxtwitter.com/woozle1x/status/1615263987750547457?s=21

[proper thunder]

Thanks bro I appreciate it but not being able to do a simple alteration of my mains from day 1 corner combo is just lazy on my end

2023 No more Slacker Howl or Character Crisis Howl

[hollow mason]

Stop it. Also ouch lol. Consistency isn’t lazy but if you want to branch out, just do it! I think keeping things simple is good at the beginning

[proper thunder]

No I agree with you and it’s not a shot at anyone just me

I’m saying for someone who takes pride in learning new angel routes and has been playing mai since day 1

Not being able to add 2 more qcb specials in corner is just slacking on my end

It’s not consistency it’s it’s not me dropping them or comfortability I genuinely don’t even know how to do it because I’ve never cared to

That’s on me 100 percent

[hollow mason]

Fair enough dudely. I totally understand the feeling of wanting to level up

Let’s make our January 2023 selves look like scrubs by summertime. And then do it again by Christmas

[proper thunder]

Twip inspired this dude has a 3 week old yuri and hit the sick nastiest yuri corner on me

If I want to compete I can’t be slacking this hard by comparison

Twip my idol

[hollow mason]

Was it the 450 half meter one?

[proper thunder]

Felt like it lol

[hollow mason]

Cause that’s swagggggy

I hit it against my sensei the other night and about flew off the couch

[proper thunder]

It be like that

And then like look at Dunc bro man’s plays super casually and has hella swaggy combos

I grind a quarter as hard as they do in the lab with as much matches as I’m doing? I’ll level up soon

Don’t take these comparisons to other players as me bringing myself down or anything it’s just respect for the homies

[hollow mason]

Oh I get you bro everyone here is solid. Btw been meaning to ask, who tf do you play against when it’s not us?

[proper thunder]

Like us by this server?

[hollow mason]

Yeah who else are you playing

[proper thunder]

Nobody

When I’m on kof? I’m here asking for matches and chatting shit

[hollow mason]

Really? Not even random public room?

[proper thunder]

I don’t lab I barely have ever touched ranked

The only other server experience I have is occasionally asking questions in the angel channel for the kof server

And I probably have less than 20 messages sent on there

[hollow mason]

Huh wow because every time we play it feels like you’ve leveled up a lot

[proper thunder]

Oh thanks man I appreciate it

None of its been smart or strategic lol it’s been brute force

That’s why this year I want to see how far I can take myself if I take training seriously

[hollow mason]

Yeah it helps to have structure. Lately my flow has been, spend the beginning of labbing trying out completely new stuff or grinding new stuff (Yuri low confirms currently) and then ending by brushing up on stuff I know how to do. Then matches

If you have other ways please share so I can crib off your homework

[proper thunder]

Wym other ways lol

[hollow mason]

Like how you do

Your process so to speak

[proper thunder]

I like to pretend I don’t know my characters and try to gather general info

Bala, E.T, Dechimo are some of the top angel players

I watch them

And I just try to figure out why they do that

All my knowledge aside

I don’t go “oh why go for that combo when you can do this” and just try to learn what they do and why they do it

And then try to see how that can help me

Basically look at better players and put yourself aside for a bit ya know?

[hollow mason]

Yup I hear ya. I saw a Yurikov match on KOF XV replays about a month ago and it single-handedly convinced me to pick her up. I still watch it all the time

[proper thunder]

Yeah yuri is so fun

[hollow mason]

I need to do more of the answer seeking you’re talking about tho, like looking for the whys

Her damage is insane and yes she’s very fun to pilot. So mobile

[proper thunder]

My biggest issue has always been trying to build a team around angel lol

[hollow mason]

I see Yurikov do a demon flip > dive kick and looks cool but there has to be a reason he’s doing that

[hollow mason]

Lol some would call this a reverse engineering of sorts, that’s not a dig btw. Your payoff will be immense once the other pieces fall into place. Keep your eyes on that prize

[proper thunder]

Thanks man

The biggest thing I do for mental is I never consider myself better than any player and no matter the outcome my opponent probably has some piece of info that can help me improve

Unless I get 3 perfects and a OCV’s constantly against someone one, there’s still work to be done

[hollow mason]

Hmm. I really like that mentality. My career background has always kind of been dog eat dog so that’s shaped some of my thought processes. This seems like a good mix of confidence and keeping ego in check

Gonna try to keep this in mind. Also eljay I know you’re here, mental tech is still tech right?

[proper thunder]

Thanks man yeah I try not having an ego if I do I try keeping in check

So like when I ask for advice when I beat someone in ft10 I mean “look it wasn’t 10-0, clearly I need to work and you know how to deal with me at some level, any advice?” It’s not like a gloat or trying to poke fun at nor do I try to think “I won so I don’t need advice from the loser they need advice from me”

[hollow mason]

That makes a lot more sense in that context. Would be lying if I said keeping salt levels down is easy, so when my opponent does something that works or is frustrating it’s helpful to think about it like that. Also to realize I’m trying to do the same thing to my opponents 😹

[proper thunder]

Lol yeah when I asked bubs for advice after our matches some of y’all looked at me like 🤨

But yeah I suck too much to be salty that’s how I see it lol

[hollow mason]

It’s just an unconventional mindset and especially in todays day and age, could easily be viewed as something else. People are hella jaded now

[proper thunder]

I just try to do me tbh and be polite to people I understand the online community and I get people usually think the worse but I just try controlling what I can ya know?

Also check out #1021190333771558962

[sage pulsar]

You gotta understand the landscape though. There’s bound to be some salt after losing in a long set so it’s not a good idea to ask for advise as it comes off as gloating even if it’s not the intention

[proper thunder]

Yeah that makes sense I just figure most people here would be more understanding

[sage pulsar]

In general it’s better to not talk much after winning unless the losing opponent initiates

[sage pulsar]

They are but there’s likely to still be some heat or salt. You can’t control emotions

[proper thunder]

I’ll try to make it clear that I’m not trying to make anyone salty but bubs

[sage pulsar]

It’s better to wait the next day if you want to discuss unless the opponent asks

[proper thunder]

Ok oli thanks man

You know it’s not my intention but any way to help reduce salt is why we’re here to begin with

[sage pulsar]

No for sure. I know your intentions are pure

[marble sluice]

It's a rare condition in this day and age, to read any good news on the newspaper page

[hollow mason]

If it bleeds it reads

[hollow mason]

Max mode is insane!

SNK pls make Shuns climax have a longer animation in the next patch

[main wagon]

Fax, as the kids say. That and saying shit like, “My inputs suck today,” AFTER whooping ass. Way to piss on someone while they’re down, but trying hard. If I win, I try my best to let the other party talk first.

Anyways, back to tech.

[languid holly]

@sage pulsar that's solid af with the Terry loop. Just did it now.

[sage pulsar]

Nice! You’re gonna be extra scary now! Can you tod with 5 bars?

Like 2 power geysers into climax?

[languid holly]

I haven't checked that, nah hahah.

[sage pulsar]

Or 3 power geysers into lvl 2 Buster wolf??

Can you technically do 5 power geysers????

[languid holly]

@sage pulsar no TOD but geyser, buster, and climax do 909 off a jump in

So like... a touch n a half LMAO

Which is nuts

Straight 5 bars

[sage pulsar]

So scary! I better see that when you face bubbles or howl or Cien lol

[languid holly]

Also Rock's ex command grab is still generous, I think it's what it should* have been from the start

I think people were just used to the obscene range it had

[sage pulsar]

I’m glad you’re keeping him. People are dropping him hard lol

[languid holly]

Then I'll be the only Rocky woowoo

Also his install is kind of more worth to use. You get half a bar back.

[pastel isle]

How is your Andy coming up?

[proper thunder]

Hit me with it next time @languid holly

[pastel isle]

@proper thunder @foggy mango new Vanessa target combo does nothing lol, it cannot be followed by specials only supers

And cannot be comboed from anything, except a jump in

[proper thunder]

It makes her cooler!

You take that back

[foggy mango]

lol

Smfh

So u can’t dash cancel out

Still haven’t even labbed anything out w/ her

[sage pulsar]

Clark bros @main wagon @pastel isle Clark 2A is dead. Can’t mash it anymore

[main wagon]

How so? I didn’t know that was on the nerf list.

[sage pulsar]

Increased recovery frames on block and hit. It’s as slow as 2B. You cant link 2A 2A anymore

It has to be 2B 2A

Clark no longer a gorilla

Oh hey Athena has the tod mm combo too https://vxtwitter.com/SpiidiOnNoita/status/1615463476876419073?t=V_KQ8lxm-laUObxHxX4KTg&s=19

@proper thunder @vague hull

[proper thunder]

But better

[vague hull]

1k damage in corner jesus

[proper thunder]

Because she’s かんぺき

[vague hull]

真実

[sage pulsar]

https://youtu.be/zf93WzGUY3I

Ramon does 493 damage for 1 bar with this route. He can do 424 for 1/2 bar if you remove the EX dp kick. This will be his new BnB

[pastel isle]

@main wagon new possibilities opened:
2B 2B 5B 5D 236C/214C is a possibility now
5C 6A 41236 BD 236A 214236B/D is a good combo
My new QM with him is 5A 6A QM 5B 5D 214C xx 236B xx 214236CD

Since target combo now can be cancelled and it deals more damage than 5C 6A it's a good way to start s combo whenever possible

Also, I haven't labbed this yet but remember how you can A2A with j.D with Clark and catch them with 41236 AC? I think you can j.A 2D with Andy and then follow up with either 236C or 236AC, since you can fast fall now after j.A and j.B(?) You land faster than the opponent and might be able to do something

What I do know is you can j.A 2D and then Catch them with 2B, just that one hit though

[pastel isle]

That's looking really good Oli

Might actually bring out pocket Ramon

[pastel isle]

What's the max damage output that Ramon can do now with 5bar?

[sage pulsar]

I haven’t tested

https://vxtwitter.com/tawarazawa/status/1615662640176726018?s=21

@languid holly @foggy mango goose

[languid holly]

L O L

that

[pastel isle]

Wtf? Might as well make the entire screen his hitbox

[languid holly]

is absurd

full screen EX counter hoooooly

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/kurinyankof/status/1615490635116453895?s=21

Andy is now a strive character with his 6P (6A) @pastel isle @main wagon @last cipher

[pastel isle]

Yeah they expanded his upper body invulnerability for 6A, it is now a good anti air as well lol

[sage pulsar]

Yeah he is a strive character now lol. It’s just like 6p which is an anti air in strive

[pastel isle]

Didn't knew that

[proper thunder]

Demon (angel) is now plus on block for her dash grab

[last cipher]

They gave my guy that invincible torso combo starter.

[foggy mango]

The hit box on that ex counter from GEESE GODDAMN

[safe apex]

Raigou Reppukken actually hits now in air combo with no delays its amazing

[foggy mango]

It’s time to go geese mode

[safe apex]

Not me. It's time to go MAX MODE

https://tenor.com/view/maxima-kof-king-of-fighters-kofxv-gif-24373122

[foggy mango]

Maxima Army

[sage pulsar]

@proper thunder @foggy mango https://streamable.com/ktmmmr

[proper thunder]

I need to change my pants

Brb

[sage pulsar]

https://youtu.be/tY1osgrIpwc?t=691

Also watch this video for xiaohai Luong. His Luong is actually better than his Iori. So many ocvs

[foggy mango]

Why did they Yassify Xiaohai’s face for the thumbnail

[proper thunder]

Would you consider Xiahai the luong

Or still pako

[proper thunder]

Because man is a mob boss

[sage pulsar]

Oh forgot to tag @astral basalt

Maybe you all can convince khrism to pick up Luong again

[proper thunder]

Yeah “convince”
cocks 911

[sage pulsar]

Xiaohai is the best in whatever character he picks up. But he’s not a character loyalist. (Only character he identifies with is Iori)

[proper thunder]

So you’d still think pako is the guy but Xiao is the man

[sage pulsar]

Watch the xiaohai video though. It’s unlike anything you’ve seen before in how Luong is played

Tripp saw it and was flabbergasted

[proper thunder]

Yeah I saw a little dude is cracked

Oooh

I was watching a bit this morning lol while doing laundry wth

[proper thunder]

@sage pulsar @astral basalt @foggy mango

Luong low profiles with 2d

She can low profile a fireball, 2d and punish with 214bd for a full combo

Wth

[foggy mango]

It’s so over

[foggy mango]

Bro wtf when Xiaohai confirmed a QM combo into kill off a stray 5B

That was fucked up

[proper thunder]

214ac j.214ac 214a 236a j.214ac 214c

That seems like a good luong corner

Get there as you will off a jump in or 2b 2b or cl.d 6b

Don’t know the full numbers but looks like off a j.a 2b 2b which might be her weakest starters she gets around 40’percent

[pastel isle]

Do you need to hop for this or do jump and hop yield the same results?

[proper thunder]

That’s just her corner combo, get there as you will, so j.d j.c hop a hop b. Or low start it whatever you need to do

This specific scenario he did a hyper jump a to bait the nako dp

[pastel isle]

No bro

[proper thunder]

Ohhhh I’m dumb

You mean yeah

Got it

[pastel isle]

I meant the j.214ac

[proper thunder]

My mai brain processes stuff slower

I need to lab it I’ve never landed it

[pastel isle]

Got it

[proper thunder]

I believe it doesn’t matter but you have to j.214ac immediately

[pastel isle]

Ok

[proper thunder]

So I think by nature you would be hopping

Ya know?

[pastel isle]

Time to bring out the pocket luong

[proper thunder]

Luong eating this patch

Mai is on a diet

And ángel is bouncing off the dining room walls

[sage pulsar]

This is very old news

[proper thunder]

It’s news to me

But yeah lol not a new thing or anything I was just saying it was cool

[sage pulsar]

You’re cool

[proper thunder]

Especially if I can learn those corner swag

I need routes tonight

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/frionel26/status/1615738778928160769?s=21

Very doable Ryo almost tod 3 bar corner combo @pastel isle @main wagon

[pastel isle]

Hoooooooollllyyyyy

[sage pulsar]

Ryo will definitely be a meta pick. Expect lots of Ryo players tonite at tns lol

[pastel isle]

I like how we can use 646A/C now for a follow up

[sage pulsar]

Makes him very scary

[pastel isle]

One more bar and he would be able to cancel that final upper with the 236214a/c super

[sage pulsar]

Anti Heidern tech and pro Ryo tech https://vxtwitter.com/fgc_xframe/status/1615737684407754752?s=21

[sage pulsar]

He is a tod machine

[pastel isle]

That's a lot of recovery frames on that moon slash

[sage pulsar]

@finite coral @leaden nest

Here is a Heidern tod combo though https://vxtwitter.com/piyokei_0210/status/1615744151504707584?s=21

[astral basalt]

It’s j214 BD not AC if you talking about her ex legs in the air

[sage pulsar]

Can raw MM after the donut super

[proper thunder]

Yeah I knew that

That was a secret puzzle for the fake luong fans here

[proper thunder]

Wait does Heiden have mf red bottoms on? Lol

[foggy mango]

I can’t believe he’d do this to his own daughter

I can’t wait to implement the raw max mode tech

[sage pulsar]

The faster projectile buffs made this possible. But yeah that’s tough love.

[foggy mango]

did they buff his movement speed too? Or just projectile

[sage pulsar]

Just projectile recovery

Which allowed him to do projectile into super after the max mode

[foggy mango]

Wish he moved faster, but we have Leona for that

[sage pulsar]

Here is the same combo starter with more bars which allows him to tod https://vxtwitter.com/atryosakazaki/status/1615725374306152448?s=21

This combo is relatively not difficult for a tod combo

[pastel isle]

It is actually really easy, man, Ryo is now a menace in the corner

Thanks for sharing all this tech btw, you a real one

[sage pulsar]

I think I might be very scared when i face you next time. I was already scared of your anchor Ryo

Do it against rait though

[pastel isle]

Rait is ducking me

[sage pulsar]

Challenge him without Clark. Clark got nerfed hard anyways I feel

Hoping DS shadow x comes up with something nice for him tonite

Rome is dropping Clark

[pastel isle]

I didn't get a chance to lab him last night, was hoping to figure something out with his 623 A/C since it got buffed s bit

[sage pulsar]

These Ryo buffs should give you a fighting chance against @proper thunder as well

[pastel isle]

I always had a fighting chance Oli 😤

[proper thunder]

Nah angel has a a counter now

I’m unstoppable

[pastel isle]

Almost every match against howl got to anchor

And felt close

[proper thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/power-dragon-ball-gif-14144919

[pastel isle]

That's why I like fighting against him

[sage pulsar]

It’s just for extra damage as it becomes the optimal route in QM combos. It’s also the safe block stringer ender for his BnB (unless they GC roll). It didn’t frame trap like I thought it could but maybe I’m missing something

[proper thunder]

I dropped mai for iori luong got buffed angel got buffed

Ggs jack

It was fun while it lasted

[pastel isle]

Bro a meta head now

[pastel isle]

That's a shame, hopefully someone can figure something else you might've missed

[sage pulsar]

Ryo being able to kill with one touch should push you over the hump

[pastel isle]

I actually struggle a lot against iori

[proper thunder]

I struggle to get out of bed

[hollow mason]

Oh god. The range on that move was already messed up and they cranked it 😭

[hollow mason]

The slow mo predictaboooooooo got me 😹

[hollow mason]

He needs it

[proper thunder]

Fellas

@sage pulsar @pastel isle @wet rain @finite coral

https://youtu.be/QM7xHw86ZFA

[wet rain]

Howl I lub you

[proper thunder]

Luong
J.a cl.b 2b is a very fast overhead low starter than can quickly throw your opponent off

[sage pulsar]

Who’s your team now?

[wet rain]

Haven't had the chance to try out the new patch yet. But probably keeping Angel and Ramon and trying out Athena in the mid

I wanna play Team Idol when Sylvie Paula Paula comes out so that's my plan

Work on the Angel and Athena now, pick up SPP when she is out

[sage pulsar]

That means playing Kula right?

[wet rain]

And Ramon I just love

Maybe

Actually, new Setplay Kula sounds sick

[sage pulsar]

Cause that idol graphic is Kula, Sylvie, Angel. Athena is not there

[wet rain]

Ooh

Yeah, then Kula instead of Athena. Especially if she has setplay now

Ramon's restand now leaves him plus in their face, right? That seems nice

[sage pulsar]

She has guaranteed snowman after a hkd now

[wet rain]

Kula stocks going up

[proper thunder]

Huh

No way

[proper thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[wet rain]

If I can turn Kula into Millia maybe I'll enjoy this game

Looping oki

[proper thunder]

Funny enough

[sage pulsar]

Yes and he’s closer. This should be his main BnB now. But you can mess around with their head by doing stuff like rolling or doing the backflip in their face (they can block it of course but you can do another restand if they are unaware and it hits)

https://youtu.be/zf93WzGUY3I

[proper thunder]

Luong kinda plays like Milla

A lot of the side switch in the air

That’s luongs Schtick

[wet rain]

Ramon is so stylish. I love him

[sage pulsar]

It’s safe against wakeup dp now as she has enough recovery to block it and even hits non jumping DPs like krohnen and Meiten dp for damage Into combo I believed thanks to the hit stun

[proper thunder]

Wth Kula is so cool now

Pun intended

But

Ángel Kula SPP

[wet rain]

@proper thunder we're Kula players now

That's the team

[proper thunder]

I said we play Kula

[sage pulsar]

This is about 500 damage for 1 bar btw off a crossup jump in too

[proper thunder]

@wet rain angel mai luong for now but I am day one spp Kula angeling

[sage pulsar]

On the minus side, you can’t mindlessly spam ex tatsu anymore. You actually have to hit confirm it or you get punished

@wet rain Shingo also has a mini vortex after any hkd. He has an low special that leads to big combo damage and an OH that leads to another knockdown. And he can add another mix by doing a feint lunge into command grab for another big combo if opponent gets scared into blocking

[proper thunder]

I spammed ex and ended with 3d anyways

I was never safe lol

[sage pulsar]

I’m gonna test this vortex in lab

[proper thunder]

Are you a Shingo now

[sage pulsar]

Maybe

He doesn’t seem obviously strong. Just really basic and easy to use

Like an easy kyo

[proper thunder]

I mean he’s busted by design no?

Like roll the dice you have a ridiculous strong character

But also a super weak goofy one if no critical

Or how much of him is true rng

[sage pulsar]

It’s all rng and people don’t wanna rely on rng for the win

[proper thunder]

Yeah bad balancing competitively

Great for funsies

[sage pulsar]

You can’t follow up ex tatsu if it’s blocked. You gotta eat the punish

[proper thunder]

Oooh

Makes sense

[sage pulsar]

I don’t think we’ll see much Kula or rock or even yashiro anymore in tourneys

Jenet still seems viable

[proper thunder]

I’ll still play her as team idol down the line though

[sage pulsar]

And I think krohnen is reworked

[proper thunder]

He no longer has 360 dp

Making the angel kro matchup even more favorable in my side

[sage pulsar]

Yeah he’s no longer brain dead

[proper thunder]

I would argue he now has a worse dp because he’s otg

[sage pulsar]

But doesn’t mean he’s weak

[proper thunder]

A rising dp would stop angel j.c

His dp now makes him a sitting duck

[sage pulsar]

Play bubbles tonite and see how it goes

[proper thunder]

I’ll try

He still has Walf

Him and meit still have 360 right?

[sage pulsar]

Yep

Meit got all buffs

Faster normals, easier execution and cancel windows and damage increase

Better hitbox for jD. Whiff Cancellable far normal

[proper thunder]

Yeah we’ll see

He might tuck away the kro

Not for fear of angel lol just to play walf

We’ll see

[sage pulsar]

Yurikov will be eating tonite with Luong and Meiten.

[sage pulsar]

He might. I don’t know if he’s using krohnen against Daru right now

[proper thunder]

I’ve seen

We’ll see

When are we getting ps tournaments again lol

My pc can barely stream and run kof

Discord, start.gg, kof and stream make it want to unalive

[sage pulsar]

Maybe coach Steve will do ps tourney

[proper thunder]

I hope

[proper thunder]

Ángel 1.5 meter combo

J.C, Cl.B, Cl.D, 6B(1), 214C, 2B, 8a, 66c, 46D, 6D, 66a, 41236BD, 8D, 66D, 4626A/C

Corner needed, not sure how close though does have decent corner carry

52.9% Damage

If running angel at mid you can also advance cancel to lvl 2 for a total of 70.4% damage

Ángel Meterless Low Starter

2B, Cl.B, 46D(1), 6A(1), 66A, 46B, 2B, 66B

23.3% Damage, Hard Knockdown, Decent Corner Carry

[sage pulsar]

https://youtu.be/u3oCxV2Vu9s

Shingo took all of rock’s safe jumps! @foggy mango let’s learn Shingo together

[foggy mango]

Let’s do it bro haha I just cleared his trials

Working on Luong’s trials now then Geese

[sage pulsar]

Luong trial is not that helpful I believe

https://fxtwitter.com/psxkyle/status/1615784230465818624?s=46&t=usFiVJgsuXoc1pm-2MktjQ alternate Ramon combo route, mostly for me to learn

@wet rain

[proper thunder]

2B, 2B, 2B 214AC, J.214BD, 214B, J.214BD, 236A, J.214BD, J.C,

[foggy mango]

I’m just trial hunting , trying to get familiar w/ her specials, but yeah some of these trials r like not helpful at all

The Kyo trial is like the dumbest thing ever lol

Pisses me off so much

Those aren’t his combos!!!

[sage pulsar]

Yeah after several patches, a lot of the trials are kinda obsolete

[proper thunder]

Potential luong route might not be optimal since I see he did drop after j.c maybe 214c would be better not sure

However id you can land anything like this you have the fundamental skills to play luong optimally

[foggy mango]

There’s like zero canceling 3D into special which is one of his most important combo tools

[foggy mango]

Going to learn this

Luong just the qcb character ? Haha

[proper thunder]

I might actually replace the last j.214bd into j.c for, after 236A, 214C super cancel tbh

[proper thunder]

Yes lol

She can cross up with 214d 214bd combo lol

[foggy mango]

Believe me…. I know….

[proper thunder]

That combo looks like xiao messing with her

[foggy mango]

I’m getting wartime flashbacks from a year of getting crossed up while I’m in trial mode

[proper thunder]

However if I find one that looks optimal and has a clean finish I’ll ping ya

[sage pulsar]

I linked one earlier that’s clean

This one https://streamable.com/ktmmmr

[proper thunder]

Angel

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/LGrinta/status/1615572167244279808

Beni combos for @winged basalt

Almost 500 for half a bar

Unpractical Athena swag combo just to show off https://streamable.com/0sc080

https://vxtwitter.com/koukou_panda/status/1615287776525848577?s=21&t=emXdyy0QbI9l5cacclnSjA

Krohnen can still do dp juggles in the corner

[proper thunder]

yooooooooooooooo

wtf

pretty super you need to hyper hop

yup

you do

[astral basalt]

For which part?

[proper thunder]

214ac, j.214bd, 214b, 236a hyper hop j.214bd

during geki he holds down after for 4 frames

[astral basalt]

Oh yeah you do unless you’re in the corner

[proper thunder]

fuck me

oh well

[astral basalt]

And then you also gotta hop forward to connect JC

With 214BD

[proper thunder]

almost!!

except i held down for 19 frames

[wet rain]

That's so cool

[astral basalt]

I recommend try not too be technical about and find the timing for yourself not try to mimic it because then it’ll be that much more complicated

Imo

https://tenor.com/view/goku-son-gokuui-ultrainstinct-mui-gif-22712408

[proper thunder]

im not trying to do it like them

just as it landsthanks bro

[astral basalt]

Yeah I was trying to time it like that then im like naw

[proper thunder]

yeah nit it

[sage pulsar]

New broken gato tech https://vxtwitter.com/juniorcilmar/status/1616038930305978369?s=21

[proper thunder]

Lol why does he fling you like a Spider-Man npc wth

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/wangweili424/status/1616016145215279104?s=21

All the xiaohai Luong tech @proper thunder @astral basalt

[proper thunder]

Oli

You’re a saint

[sage pulsar]

If you don’t do these at frosty then I’m disowning you

[proper thunder]

Not again

[finite coral]

Xiao knew Luong was getting buffed dude I swear

He's been grinding Luong for the last 3 weeks now I knew Dino and Heidern were getting beefy buffs when ET was using them in a ft10 set and his opponent was on the K', Dino grind

They know what's up 🤣

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/kurinyankof/status/1615921199850180609?s=21

@proper thunder valid angel tech or not?

[proper thunder]

Extremely wth

That’s a very creative way to use it

[finite coral]

Burning meter is solid, Nessa uses er ex sway to be plus. 46 ex k jails which I s very valid

@sage pulsar

[hollow mason]

@safe apex yo when you go from a standing normal with Kyo to 3D how do your hands move? Like stick to neutral for the 5A and then 3D or something else

[foggy mango]

He plays analog I believe

[hollow mason]

Yeah he does

But just curious if he goes to neutral or has it held forward and slides to the diagonal. Or something else

[foggy mango]

I just do the down forward

[safe apex]

I do down forward as well

[finite coral]

^^^ that's 3D

[foggy mango]

Yeah it’s just a df

Easy because all his combos after require a cancel into QCF on the first frame of 3D I think

Some shit like that

Best command normal in the game

You can even raw 3D confirm QM off the second hit

[safe apex]

Well once you've done 2b into 5b for instance, you can relax and go into your 3D

[hollow mason]

Ok so you let the stick go to neutral and then do the diagonal, do I have that correct?

[safe apex]

Yes

BUT

There are many times as well where I 2b 2a

I think that is a bit easier because you are already crouching

and just need to move forward a bit

[hollow mason]

Yeah that’s one is easier with Yuri as well but the range on far B is so good so been trying to learn that one now

Appreciate the tips 🤘

[sage pulsar]

This is a must watch imo https://youtu.be/blXIfujGFxg

@proper thunder this has the new mai route that you know, a variant of the Luong j214BD combos and a new angel stun tod combo that seems doable

[proper thunder]

How much meter for the ángel? Also thank you very much h

[sage pulsar]

@last cipher @pastel isle wtf this shows that Andy can do climax after ex elbow????

[sage pulsar]

5 meter for the tod. Much less for just the stun

Also there is a super easy tod Antonov combo here. Wtf

[last cipher]

Yep, it's a bit of a delay, but grounded climax is active frame 3, so it catches after ex elbow

If Andy has a move, he can climax cancel off of it

[proper thunder]

Is ángel the only one not to receive a tod?

😭

[sage pulsar]

He seems to be saying that this is a post patch buff though. Like before you can’t do it

[last cipher]

Except ex dp lol, can't combo shit off ex dp

[sage pulsar]

@marble sluice you will like the tech for maxima here. It shows an anti Clark armor grab tech

[last cipher]

Nope, it was before patch too

They just made the timing a bit easier

[proper thunder]

@sage pulsar that luong route might be optimal tbh

I’m not sure if ex into ex bumps the scale up or if it matters at all idk have to test it out

[sage pulsar]

This super easy Antonov tod combo is inspiring me to learn Antonov lol

I learned this 900 damage 5bar corner combo for Meitenkun last night. It’s not even optimal as you can fit in an extra fk before the 4A and QM here. This is an old combo that can be done pre patch https://youtu.be/B9HbvkeTjCs

Adding the extra fk and throwing an extra pillow to run in and do the jump in should make it close to tod. I believe 980 or something close

A variant that only uses 4 1/2 bars but still does 890 damage https://youtu.be/63RppyPAzxo

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/busterwolf_r/status/1616380484824567809?s=21

@proper thunder what’s your Angel max damage meterless? This one says 440 https://vxtwitter.com/olafredland/status/1616311946692952065?s=21

[proper thunder]

Meterless?

I get 44.8 off .5

That’s my tops

[sage pulsar]

Well the above is 440 meterless

[proper thunder]

Damn

I think I do 38 or something

[marble sluice]

I'll take a look, I've figured some stuff out already

Yeah I found that one in the lab 😅
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiVRr2OWoNQ

[sage pulsar]

Is this a cpu opponent? Hopefully it’s not a human opponent lol

[marble sluice]

CPU for sure 😅

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/geos9104/status/1616219244965888001?s=21

Wonder if this is universal

[pastel isle]

Btw Oli, are you considering Iori?

[sage pulsar]

Im not. I can’t do rekka inputs and hops seems like an essential tool for him and I can’t hop

Rekkas I think I can learn if I put time into it

Im focusing on improving my main team

Meiten in particular right now as his combos are harder for me

[pastel isle]

Got it, idk why but I felt like he fitted your playstyle

[sage pulsar]

Hmm, how would you define my playstyle?

[marble sluice]

The timing on Krohnen's wakeup dp has been changed too. They just messed him up 🤣
The people that are pulling off the same things he did pre-patch are wizards. It's not as easy

[pastel isle]

The words "patient" and "punish" come to mind when thinking of your playstyle, you're really patient and wait for an opening to punish with a good combo as well as throwing fireballs from the distance to make your opponent approach you, being how iori can do that, and his combos are easy and with really good damage it fitted you imo

[sage pulsar]

That makes sense. Haha I feel like you know my playstyle more than I do!

[pastel isle]

Why? How would you define yours?

[sage pulsar]

No I think you define it well. I like having the fireball and I prefer to condition the opponent as well as wait for openings and look for reads

I’m not good with combos though so punish might not be a good description haha

Opponents that frame trap you is what I find most annoying to fight against. Which is why I hate fighting yashiro. Cause he messes up my understanding of looking for openings

I’m also not good with rushdown since it requires you to be good with hoping

I can do a basic rushdown with jumpins but that can be snuffed once the opponent gets past the beginner level

[pastel isle]

Tbh I feel like you're improving on that aspect, you would do some really good combos on our last matches, more so with Robert, he has a combo route really similar to ryo and you were doing it perfectly

Btw you on stick right? Might want to look into a "tougher" spring for your stick, that would help you with the hops, that is if you haven't already upgraded

[sage pulsar]

Yeah for sure! I’m just too lazy to do it haha. I’m not interested in tourneys which is Why I don’t have the motivation to adjust my stick.

[pastel isle]

Yeah you're casual like me

[sage pulsar]

The Robert combos I labbed for a few weeks a couple of months back and that allowed me to get it into muscle memory. They’re actually not difficult at all

[sage pulsar]

I would have retired from playing KoF months ago if not for this discord

[proper thunder]

@sage pulsar these seem to all be somewhat familiar strings I should be able to get it down relatively easy

Unlike her new mid screen on which is 2b 8a 66c

[sage pulsar]

I expect you to learn them haha

[proper thunder]

I landed the hyper hop 214bd lol with luong just to drop it after

[sage pulsar]

Robert also is privileged with a really easy crouch light confirm

[pastel isle]

Same, I was strictly playing locally with friends here, with this discord is easy to find matches with people around my level

[proper thunder]

Tbf I didn’t expect to land it sooo

[pastel isle]

So is hyper hop needed for the 214bd after all?

[proper thunder]

Yes

100%

[sage pulsar]

Rank should work this weekend. I found matches last nite

[pastel isle]

Shit

I can hop no problem, but hyper hops are something else

They were easier on the stick

Just a matter of practice, hitbox should be easy as well

[proper thunder]

Do 23629

So 236A for up geki and as soon as up geki input is done 2 immediately

[pastel isle]

Geki is the 2 kicks?

Oh no, it's the fast kick

Nvm

[pastel isle]

Have you pulled it off?

[proper thunder]

Geki is slash kick

[proper thunder]

Once yesterday on accident lol

Well not accident I tried to do it lol

But I dropped after lol

[pastel isle]

Good enough, howl a luong/hyper hop master

[proper thunder]

[mossy acorn]

Woah did not know maxima could do that

[sage pulsar]

https://youtu.be/zu-XjhhTg9g

Luong 2C punish tech @proper thunder @astral basalt

https://streamable.com/9eawce

Here’s a new variant of her combo @foggy mango

[foggy mango]

You could do this before I think maybe?

That’s OD tho

I ALMOST hit the one combo after the ex earring tonight

Been trying to hit that combo for months

[sage pulsar]

Here’s what I found on twitter. I don’t play Leona so I’m not sure https://vxtwitter.com/mustain_co/status/1616491080035487744?s=21

@stiff veldt might know more

[sage pulsar]

https://youtu.be/ENOOAJpAVY0

Extremely easy 900 damage combo using 4 1/2 bars from Antonov. Should I learn him?

You can also do the same combo off a shatter strike and it does 820 damage

[astral basalt]

Do it!

Grip ppl up

Then kick the shit outta them

[stiff veldt]

@foggy mango this one is good for mid screen. The other isn't optimal, the harder one you know is 😉

[modest timber]

I’m slowly finding Billy swag combos. His new routes are fun. And surprisingly he can get good meter damage by keeping it short n sweet.

[finite coral]

More hits mean more damage scaling. 2D world is mental all round xD

[proper thunder]

Howl’s Frosty Faustings Routes

ÁNGEL

(Low Starter)

2B,2B,2A >46B,6B,236C
2B, Cl.B >46D,6A,66A >46D,2D, 66D
(c) 2B,Cl.B >214A,6B,66A >(214A), 8B, 66D

(Close Normals)

J.D, Cl.D, 6B(1) >214C,2B,8A,6AB, 66A >63214B
(ss) J.D, Cl.D, 6B(1) >214C,2B,8A >41236B,8B,66C >63214B
(nc) J.D, Cl.D, 6B(1) >214C,2B,8A,66C >46D,6D,66A >63214B

[last cipher]

I swear, kof combos written out be lookin like coding for a supercomputer😂

And I'd know, I was in coding classes for 3 years

This stuff is damn near identical

[proper thunder]

There’s still way more I gotta add 😭

[marble sluice]

Assembly language 😅

[proper thunder]

It’s gonna have a sharp drop off do because ángel has all this and then mai is gonna have like 2 combos lol

[foggy mango]

We gotta start dropping the hieroglyphics for our combos

[proper thunder]

I’m sorry bro I tried making it as legible as I could

[finite coral]

This is why I prefer LK, HK and ect 🤣

Easier on the eyes

[pastel isle]

Dude I prefer this over the way the trials are shown in SFV

You know which way I mean?

[proper thunder]

Yeah lol

[mossy acorn]

Crazy

[proper thunder]

Nah I think abcd all the way just when it’s so many notations it starts looking crazy

5C, 6A > 236236A/C

That doesn’t look horrible

[pastel isle]

I've always preferred letters:
St.C f.A qcfqcf a/c

[proper thunder]

I’ll fix it, (space)>(space) doesn’t make a list

(space) does

I was scared it would’ve chopped up my combos so my stuff looks like 4B >63214B

I’ll fix it rn

Makes it easier to read

[pastel isle]

What's the > mean?

[proper thunder]

is cancel

[pastel isle]

Cancel into?

Ok

[proper thunder]

Lol see

Yeah

[pastel isle]

I prefer xx

[proper thunder]

You’re one away from nsfw

[finite coral]

True, it's all a preference

Tbh I'd be saying Mortal Kombat notations but only 2 people would understand 🤣

[proper thunder]

My brain is specific fighter orientated for notations.

That’s how I best interpret kof combos

[pastel isle]

Howl at his job: hey bro can you turn the wrench 23698?
Howl's bro: you fired

[proper thunder]

cr.mk xv s.mk(1) >qcf.mk,cr.mp > dp.hp

That’s how I read sf notations lol

[pastel isle]

I actually like those

[proper thunder]

Yeah agree

I just switch it up between games

[wet rain]

I can't do the letter notation. It's too much letter soup

[proper thunder]

cr.mk xx s.mk(1) > 236MK, cr.mp > 623HP

Just for you

That’s a sf6 juri drive rush combo off a low poke confirm 😉

[wet rain]

What is s.mk?

[proper thunder]

Stand Medium Kick

[wet rain]

Why not just say mk then

[proper thunder]

Because cr. Mk

Is crouching Mk

It helps differentiate

[wet rain]

But if Mk is neutral, and you clarify for crouch, you don't need to add more for the neutral one

[proper thunder]

Like in kof someone will say D not cl.d to specify proximity and I’ve tried to combo off a far d before lol

[wet rain]

That's messed up.

[proper thunder]

Lol on me for being slow tbf

[wet rain]

cD, fD, 2C, 2D

[proper thunder]

Also sometimes target combos won’t matter

[wet rain]

Yeah

I like how Skullgirls handles it. They use numpad notation with LMP P/K

[proper thunder]

Like it could be F.MK> Mk, and if you mash u.mk d.mk it doesn’t matter

So it helps say st.Mk if it’s stand specific

[finite coral]

It's better than saying cl.2 fwd3 QCB1, Down3, up1, 1+2 fwd, ff1

[proper thunder]

Also I love helping people with whatever little knowledge I have and if they’re coming to me for advice they’re probably newer

So spending 2 extra seconds to be extra specific is no bother to me

[wet rain]

Cherry stop

[finite coral]

That's a bitch to say 💀

Let me have my Tekken and MK notation

Keyboard is way more universal

Keyboard notation stumps all

[wet rain]

Except it only works if you share a language

I can pop over to Japanese sites and steal combos with numpad notation

[proper thunder]

It’s called numpad notation 🤓

[proper thunder]

If language ain’t shared I’ll learn their notations so they can understand better

ありがとございます

[finite coral]

Keyboard=Numpad 💀

I'm just extra

I hate saying numpad

[proper thunder]

Because it reminds you that you’re numb inside

[finite coral]

Low-key true 🤣

[foggy mango]

https://twitter.com/squish2364/status/1614003181054459906?s=46&t=UuQ6fKehic3rhwPh0LuIjw

Squish (@squish2364)

I'm laughing unbelievably hard at this. Someone dropped a bunch of sprites with no context in the Akatsuki channel for the Under Night discord, and come to find out the very next morning that he was actually posting these as a way to notate a combo LMFAO

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Just do it like this

[pastel isle]

Respect

[sage pulsar]

https://vxtwitter.com/fgc_wolfman/status/1616944157121183745?s=21

@proper thunder

https://vxtwitter.com/fgc_xframe/status/1616940433518776320?s=21

Lol

[astral basalt]

This is disgusting

[safe apex]

Where u get them combos from