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The basic stats are still the same
Just more stuff added
You can see if z has something more recent
Why 6?
But we dont know if the beasts are working before the stats of troops start. So the maths have to be changed
I am telling you this because at 1v1 the beasts look alike they start the battle
Roughly 3 months apart so about 12 weeks
No, beasts are seperate
Most times i have seen my troops doing a critical at 1 sec of battle cuz of beasts to be honest
But maybe you are right
Troops don't crit, only beasts have crit
Are you sure?
unfortunately, IGG isn't transparent on how the final damage output numbers are derived from the individual damage variables. and it's a bit tough to back into the numbers and see how the damage variables impact the final numbers bc IGG doesn't give us testing dummies nor a sandbox for us to isolate the variables for testing purposes
z did as close a job to that in a YT video as anyone could to figuring out how damage is calculated
i personally don't trust any YT content creator with low reading comp and math skills to give me recommendations. imagine saving frags, hones, chips, stele, squad equipment etc etc for months just to find out your theoretical build doesnt do the damage you expected
I meant 6 from moment new inf finish.
Shots Fired!
Even if he made the video. How we know that igg use this math for damage? Maybe the just oooga booga “atk better than def”
when you've spent what i've spent in the game, it's like taking financial advice from a financial advisor at this point
it's a bunch of investment decisions that can't be rolled back
Investment means you win something. Putting game in a mobile game isnt investing except you have shares of igg..Right?

that's my point. Z at least attempted to logically back into the numbers to give some level understanding on how the individual damage attributes work with each other and contribute to the overall damage number. it's the best educational guess i've seen so far
Lol i am totaly lost in all new addons, i think i give up leveling and just play for free, there is no end to spending .
ain't that the truth 😂
Still dont understand whats the diff between deff, counter, block and reduction.
there are YT vids on that which go into the detail
The problem is that IGG dont confirm those are correct. They are fan based
7 then
they will to some extent, but most of the time, IGG is vague and ambiguous in their descriptions, even if you reach out to their customer service for clarification
When megawhales max something igg releases the next thing
They aren't just fan based. From a Technical Engineering, and Technical / Data Analyst background, it's very easy to take behavior that is operating, understand the variables that drive it, and reverse engineer the full picture.
I respect the job and the effort plus the knowledge of the video and the video maker but still IGG have to confirm
The numbers of damage you see are lines of code, the components you use like Base Stats, Atk, Lethality, Firepower and such are just variables, but coding operates and excutes all the same. The only thing that changes from game to game or platform to platform is the order in which it does or the variables.
Isnt order everything?
No, that's just ignorance.
yea, i think the problem is that experimenting to figure out how it works is rather expensive. you have to actually build out the heroes, isolate damage/defense, and then analyze the battle reports. i would prefer to do that for free, rather than save up resources for months just to see how it works for my specific build/setup
"You can't tell me the sky is blue until Jesus Christ himself gives me a signed letter that it is"
You have the variables but not the order. Its like i give you ingredients and i say you make me Acropolis
That's why I've been doing it ever since the early days of my account. Documenting it for 3 years now.
No, but I can chagne the variable numbers like increase lethality, firepower and such to measure the level of impact it has on the final value, then gauge where that impact resides.
It's also not hard to figure out what are multiplicative values of the final value and multiplicative values of the base value because it literally shows it to you in the game
Yeah you can. But you dont know how the game counts it
I absolutely do.
Without that being certified?
Certainly.
like i said, IGG doesn't explicitly give you the damage/defense formulas
gotta test and back into the numbers to confirm/adjust
If you increase a certain value by X % and the final combat outcome is a linear line, you found where it multiplies at. If it multiplies at a lesser amount, you also know where it lies at in the equation.
It's really not hard to do, I promise.
You must be Asian
Bro if its about just money why you begging for math formulas and sheet to get an advantage? Contradictory much
Half Pinoy, yes.
Legit
Why not
That's also a hint of racist, but we'll bypass it.
IGG celebrates racism
Found their prime customer then.
Because a free to play account if know how it works, it can focus on one thijg
Actually u guys are great on maths
Absolutely, very easy to communicate as well.
F2p just die mostly

Thats why i told it
Not helping your stance.
yea that is true. i wouldnt play this game as f2p. that's just me
You can survive with correct focus
Incorrect.
your focus would be on your hospital
You can trade even while they're hitting someone else
But you'll never win a 1v1
Still i am saying that Asians are great into maths
stop that 🤨
True
Correct focus is to leach off whales
Join the big whales rally and garrison for points
Depends
the power gap between f2p and everyone else just continues to widen with each patch
That's racist though
That's wonderful. Any messages of actual sentiment or value you feel like providing? or can I go back to gambling on purple hone chips?
You'll get 1 useful hone per 500
Yeah. My mum is from Nepal
my friend is black im not racist
is honing worse for everyone recently? I can't even get purple useful attributes lately 💀
Also, @olive turtle I appreciate your comment and feedback earlier of my approach and how I put it out on YouTube. I'll NEVER make a claim about something on this game without data to back it up, so I appreciate you supporting that.,
Did she tell you to stop being racist?
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT THIS EVENT/.
Is racism to call asians great mathematics?
RIGHTT
None of my guaranteed reds were useful💀
Same 🥹
viva nepal
Yes, stereotypes are racist
Got 2 red 2 garrison atk 
Yes!
I got wrong troops type, rally and garrison
For my field set
saving 150 purple chips feels like a summoning circle for golden gathering speed 🥹
Calling someone great isnt racism but lets bypass it bro
Did 550, barely 2 good gold, 1 wrong red.
I mean, it is when you involve their race or nationality. But who's keeping track.
If you felt like it i am sorry.
stereotypes aren't racist? a small cat is a kitten. come at me bro.
coulda just called him great without saying he must be asian smfh
Anyway i meant you are good at maths
Bon, you're great.
no you are!
He cant be racist guys his mom is from Nepal
"I'm not racist I got a black friend"
And there is not nepali flag here
🇳🇵
🤣
next up, Slim will have a new idea for the dating app plan
I am writting nepal but nothing comes out

At least its not the roblox dating plan
That just sounds wrong.
That has to be illegal.
Ceo wants it to be 17+ iirc
Probably just wants to say that. They have no business model if it's not children stealing their parents' credit cards.
They tangled with odds in honning for sure. This now is just pure criminal.
Wait, so Genesis is gonna randomly be Tuesdays now? 🤔
☕
I got nothing with 300 hones
550 nothing. I swear, highest was lethality 43 or something.
Bunch of rally/garrison ones tho.
i get more useful, gold hones with blue chips these days 🫠
We got a new event
So gw is 1 day tuesday like pompei and off limit
No idea how they're changing it though
i'm going to be so discombobulated in january...
I got several on my Isabella set with 1k
Probably why its over Christmas/new years
Since people will skip for holiday stuff
I did for leader set also. Goal was to get 5 usable attributes for 550 tries. Nooope.
my isabella set is particularly stubborn on the honing. suspicious
I mean...wtf
Used over 100 on that purple attack, and stil left with it, because it was best from everything.
At least they're kind enough to sell a few chips for a lot of money.
or you can get 20 chips for 600 gem each
||at vip 18||
Who?
Wait how much does it even cost to max out your VIP..
Im at 570k/600k right now
ugh purple. what the hell is that on there??? 🤣
I have some purple squad dmg
That's a bot, do less ping
oh man. that's a blight to my eyes. lol. i can barely look at my equipment with yellow on it. red is much more pleasing
Anyways yes it is hes been long gone I havent seen him on DLS since 2023..Z told me xoranti gave his acc away but it has been inactive and not even in an alliance
Gimme 10k chips, I'll make mine all red
i feel you, but i'm starting to think 10k hones may not get them all red and in the types you want
Not gonna lie I always wonder how people leave this game with such accounts , I have a friend who left this game with white ranged parts and an transcended Bard
@south ember whys this?whats the common reason?
the cost for upgrades has gone up this past year. if you were a g1 whale before, it's extremely costly to maintain that status now compared to the time before beasts
Impressing people how much you spent on this game isnt worth a damn lump of coal..the real flex is how many girls you picked up, how many numbers you got, how many ladies you strung up
End of the day a man's real purpose in life is to get wealthy so we can become a provider and flex on other guys based on how hot his chick is
Nothing else matters in life but babes, that's the law of social media that's the rule of life
Selling is hard, a lot of scams on both ends
Im just saying dude was fully red and had white parts on vanguard rifle and helmet..around 200m might and 800M kills then he went static out of nowhere and was offline for 3 weeks then ever since hes been offline with no alliance nothing his shelter has been untouched
You cant sell either if you get mass reported you might get fully zeroed or even have your account deleted isnt that right?
Sometimes people get bored and just uninstall and walk away
he probably went to prison.
They can still sell it during trial
Had an alliance member sell his account after getting arrested
Yes but with stuff like that?Like dude has white parts and transcended ranged heroes, at least from my alliance one of our whales retired and he gave a 150m t6 farm entrusted to one of our loyal members and its an infantry garrison now
DAMN
dayum that's crazy if true lol
yeah not everyone is generous enough to pass along boosted accounts
Parts aren't that important
Its all arms beasts and vehicles
the korean alliances keep it in the alliance so they dont fall into enemy hands
I had a rider t6 account with golden parts and I gave it away to my friend, this was during the Bella Sven era
In my old region in 193 I see people considering 170m might accounts with full red equipment and purple/golden parts "Aoki_Farm2" 💀
yea that's true. you can get the same part stats elsewhere in the game, for much cheaper
Infantry / Rider T5 with Adut,Catherine,Miyamoto,Elena,Cynthia,Tom,Raigoro awakened
crazy
Bored from the same preset so also managed to focus on Louis and awaken him since I also want to start ranged
Ohh interesting. i ~obtained my second acct from reddit and made it ranged
Dude, you try to impress girls by spending in this game.
Im getting my knife red after that im going for the rifle to get it red im more of an offense / damager Im not that good with defense
they just gave it to you?
me too, just a field menace
yep. figured what was the harm in asking if anyone was bored and done and bam
After finishing the knife I'm doing the rifle
that's nice of them. at least you're doing something with the account
yeah i hope that person is doing well wherever they are, super cool

I want a complete damage dealer preset instead of defense since im not a garrison player I usually roam with Adut Peterson + Miyamoto Bodala in fields and try to do as much damage or kill troops
This account went from 10m kills to 33m kills in the span of 1 month and a half
Peterson 💀
LIKE
I DONT P2W ANYMORE
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
IVE SPENT OVER 3K ON THIS GAME MEANWHILE LAST WEEK I BOUGHT A PC FOR 1.5K WITH AN RTX 3080
Guys does anyone host the upcoming monopoly event and got a spot ?
But we just had heroic legacy
1.5k with 3080?
Did you buy ram?
You tell that to my friend who had this account which I told to focus on Eileen and Bodala instead of spending 100$ on Catherine and awakening Louis..
RAM-less PCs are all the rage now
32gb ram ddr4
Oh ddr4
Ddr5 is like $400 for that
i got a 5070 and spent a little less than you did. AMD chip
I went from an low profile GT 1030 to an RTX 3080 I can't complain
Kind of dangerous though if you don't know what you're doing
A
RTX 3080 12GB
I9 14900K
32gb RAM (2x16gb HyperX fury ddr4)
1TB SSD
I could get a 5070 for my 64gb ram
This PC feels heavenly i went from struggling to reach 100 fps on killing floor 2 on a low preset to being at a stable 300-400 on 1920x1080 at 2K
i'm curious what they go for now. i got mine about 6 months ago
also pretty good for designing i have no issues so far
how good are your waifus?
I'll drop a few
it was a joke, but ok
@olive turtle
You say that, but you know those are the ones that sell well
Usually comes around up to 50€ per plugin including a whole SMAA of Cvars,codes,resources,sounds
whats that?
2 copywrited symbols i see?
@south ember can I post videos here from other games
Probably not
Maybe in off topic
Ask the mods @wind yew @sage current
32gb ddr5 6000mhz cl30 is $700 here lol
What to use the x2 voucher on?
I was banking on IGG putting up a new pack up today.
Should have just used on the black market
What ever gives you workshop metal imo
julia?
That's fairly close. 700 Canada Money is around 500 USD right now.
Wouldn't know haven't looked at rates lol
I dont see her shop anymore. Playing on PC
exchange rates are a fun thing to look at and speculate on the health of the global economy
It's a two day thing, Wednesday and Thursday of TC week
who deal more damage chasey/felix or felix/janet in field battle
Felix Janet should
Saying that as a non-rider and from memory
Oh, 
Can Multiple alliance technology buffs be used simultaneously?
No
1v1 Chasey Felix
1v2+ Felix Janet
i see so can janet still good if i partner her with elena or daryl?
Janet best goes with Felix, Rubina or Rick
Im trying to plan ahead for Off-limits. I usually do 3 UT, but may not be able. Does anyone know what are the other options. I appreciate your help.
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👀 why am i tagged in that lol
Probably because of Slim. We can all blame him?
Asking for Bonbon
😭

i just appear and shitpost, i'm no one important.. lmao
This is too many heart emojis for social media!
Did you see his latest? lmfao I died
I was about to respond "Who hurt you in the game?"
i saw some earlier did i miss some gold
I'll leave this here for some Tindering
#☕┊en-general-chat message
Tinder...ing, get it? Tin... I'll see my bum out
😂😂😂
I think i'm personally less impressed by huge spenders so this is pretty funny

I'd be impressed if the bots are reading him...
weird situation in g190 tonight, we can take the whole map but waiting on r5, watching everyone else kill each other 🫠
why tag me
If you want to talk to igg you need to contact them directly
Are you a human person or a bot?
do you think the AI even responds to him
Winning 1v3? What a whale
Check off-topic lmao
Are you? Are you not impressed by this sheer magnitude of gpt talk?
it tagging zawbi is even funnier
I am not even that active on Discord.
Just pop in every now and then
I'm not even sure. I was just curious about the though process behind the names professionalgamer0199 and Social Media Expert, because they certainly don't seem to be related to a specific youtube channel 
But I'm guessing it's just bot considering it hasn't responded.
"Professionally Made gpt randomly selected targets members"
i thought it was a Slim alt when i got the notification tbh lol
Slim doesn't know how to spell professional
💀
Please don't DM me about this game. I don't know anyone here and don't particularly want to know anyone. I only joined because I thought it would help me in the actual game.
ok will ask everyone not do it thank you for your attention to the matter
Tag all
In the Doomsday Vault what does the treasure suitcase contain?
Or should i choose the armament box?
@ancient crystal read carefully
it's the same stuff just more, like the armament box instead of 2, the gift got 3
Your first sentence and the very last sentence are oxymoronic 😏
Bonjour
Thanks buddy. Will keep this in mind.
why even have a choice of preferred troops if these weapons aren't even in the drop?
IGG stupid logic as usual
Guys how can i get more arrows in the great hunter event by playing and completing stuff.. without spending cash
Do all the tasks where you get arrows. And save arrows for a few months
Finished all the tasks... It really sucks to wait
Well there's nothing else you can do. This is one of the reasons I don't do TC anymore.
is there a cool down on presidental regional buffs. I've done them many times but never actually looked to see so. I know you can only run 1 at a time but if anyone knows the limitations I'd appreciate the insight. planning some Christmas time regional buffs schedule
and god damn what my daughter change my profile picture to now 
Hi

hi
🇮🇳 
alright good, just need the allaince to vote on the gold usage for it to support the regional during the holidays. Always nice to give back.
appreciate your insight every time.
@sage current whats the difference between Miyamoto being the leader and Bodala assistant then the other way around
Idk why people always say bodala should lead..
the 7.5% skill damage bonus from talents is the biggest difference. It triggers at the skill attack so it only applies to assistant's damage. Bodala as lead will do more overall damage due to this.
see i learn something everyday. i would of assumed not much difference if any, yet here you are educating the people lol
It's enough though. Also beneficial are having the shield from the start, so potential to block both opponents' skills rather than just the second and the fact people are more likely to target Miyamotor than Bodala
And what should I do if i have 0 fragments for bodala meanwhile im awakening moto next tc..

Unless you're really whaling out, focus on one troop type, I guess. Armaments will be the biggest stopper really. Even the best heroes aren't any good if they have bad armaments.
The TC one looks pretty good. The roulette one isn't perfect without skill tree but still probably helpful in places.
Currently focusing on infantry
The new leader Julian?
24h between the 2 activations
Oh yeah, I read it wrong and it is 24h
My bad. I thought you were asking about people giving themselves buffs because I don't know how to read right after waking up
waste 2 hone slots on every piece of armament with speed
Thanks
Legendary leader heros are awesom
I'm 3 frags short of getting Isabella
hi
Fyntik in our alliance plays his account, she's the one that brought him to the alliance. But he hasn't been playing in quite some time, and i think she just focuses and plays her account now because she's really busy herself.
I remember her from 193 from VhL she gave me tips for infantry back when I was a t4
@storm sapphire was your alliance NbD?
@storm sapphire I have a few questions if youd mind me asking in DMs
Does anyone know what this new jungle crisis event is? Is it PvP like IR etc or more like the monopoly event 🤣
Sounds like monopoly but with wounded troops?
The rules were visible before in the season event page but it looks like they took that out
Fib not nbd
I feel like this is the strongest build to ensure good individual points in wars? as long as you are not the rally or garrison lead
Depends on your playstyle.
If you are just playing alone and picking and choosing your fights, speed is ideal
i mean speed allows you control battles, so regardless while in the field you have more opportunity to farm points
If you're in a big group and trying to make the biggest overall difference, you want combat stats
focus 1 squad, the rest are for filling rallies/garrison 
i think i will go for 1 set of movement speed for the point farming, and let my superb be for combat stats 😂
Hello guys does anyone have a full guidelines for a new player could someone please send me one I really need it as a new player please
OH
@wind yew @sage current dont yall think GW needs more individual rewards?
Hello
To trick people until they realize they're being scammed
After playing for almost 6 months, my luck was great during the honing event. I got 5 legendary hones( the hones that i actually wanted) and one deep red hone in like just 14 or 15 hones.

I got red lethality for my inf leader
mine's full of garrison. Im gonna be a garrison leader now with 3m hero might
Dont want to jinx anyone. Hope everyone here gets what they wants
We will hold hands and spread the goodluck
Are you an t6
I want ur acc, ty
T5. I just unlocked 3 t5. Still small
Heroes awakened?
Mornign folks!
High what are your thoughts on the new infantry leader?
Mfs added salt bae as an infantry hero
I wish it was night
🤣
He looks like he sucks
But Sakura is definitely a charm
I'm gonna get her just because
Im focusing on my infantry equipment at the moment
Her damage is like woah
Im doing ranged right after that
Ethan and Sophie laughing in the background
Close to being one awakened. 5/5/5/4. I made some mistakes focusing on many heroes.
Did you see his debuff
Which hero
Daryl
Tell me what it is
I'm starting to hate him
Today i paired Daryl with Isabella and damn the combination hit hard and was fast too.
Big debuff to the 3 base stats
That's interesting
I really want to test him and see how he does. Is he a primarily field hero?
Yea
U thinking we put him as partner to Sakura or..
@south ember I have a question
Pair him with Elena
Which one was leader
Tbh daryl is amazing with right partner
Emo asss keyboard
Daryl. Because i dont have proper leader armament set. Imagine with a proper leader set and full cooperation skill tree the damage will be insanely high
Will check later on.
True
Upgrading my Claude made me rank higher in AOD and beasts
Only two skill sets lol
SaltBae, unfortunately, looks amazing. So does Sakura
I actually hate Claude and Bodala we gotta buff Johnny Kerry again and bring that anti-heal prime back...
its a nice addition to Infantry Needs
The stats seem pretty nice I like them but they still get ran over by Cedric Ethan
Boyd/Sakura will be an interesting wall to run into.
and Stella/Sakura will hit like a truck
@rich nexus Hey i want to know the current best field range pair preferably non S category hero. Is it still Sophie and Julia because of the meta or Sophie and Spectra?
That was my thoughts
This might give infantry garrison a chance to shine in garrison while Stella Sakura will hit like a truck
Was literally about to say that..
I'm like fuc do I pair Sakura with Boyd or salt
Boyd. SaltBae wont be in garrison like at all
Or stella
Boyd is stil the main garrison character so I don/t think he will lose that spot anytime soon
I wish we had a ranged hero that debuffs riders and counteracts
I almost seem like a real player when I use Boyd. I still lose but I don't feel as helpless in garrison
Sophie/Ethan
🥺🥺
I've been doing pretty well with Sophie/Spectra lately. But we're not in the top warzones 🙃
Imma try that but Ethan is damage so of course he'll win
I am a low spend player. So i probably wont unlock Ethan. Will try to pair two non S category heroes in field. I was thinking like Sophie and Julia. Spectra and a leader. Two squads.
Sophie/Lynne, Sophie/Spectra both decent choices.
Sophie/Lynne is alright as well, but I tend to get better trades with Spectra. My Ethan is 5531 so I can't speak much on his usefulness in the field
And actually I was thinking about something, don't Ethan and Sakura both say 40% augmentation
You absolutely can unlock Ethan if you don't spend, I never gave a cent to IGG 🙃 You'll just need to save up for a few months for Top Commander
Same here but I'm just saving 5k stele like baby shark told me to
i was just going to say this. and its pretty acceptable for a F2P player to transcend 2 skills on a superweapon hero.
Also, I'd recommend to sticking to one squad in the field. As a low spender, I assume you don't have 2 sets of good armaments just yet
Okay
He said never compete without 5k stele and I saw paddy won from just some speedups and vehicle
Okay i will aim for this
My old man Bard with 2 transcended skills still puts in work in Fearless. I don't know whether I should keep transcending him or focus on a new hero now, since he's kinda outdated by now
yeah new heros are WAY better
It goes past 7m
Bard is like so outdated
Cedric bard is still good
And double aoe is useful for hitting into field
So bards still used a lot
Interesting
IMO i would stil probably run Cedric/Ethan over Cedric/Bard if i had a choice.
Ethan Bard / Cedric Bard says something else
That's because Ethan and Cedric are beautiful
I run ranged rallies for my alliance (we're definitely more on the casual side :D), Sophie/Bard is my go-to. Don't have Cedric unlocked. Tends to do alright, but, again, just Fearless
Can't even see Cedric's face.
Keep Sophie and Louis on the field you should try Bard Isabella
Well I guess on the outside he's beautiful but outside his outside
Don't have Isabella either, didn't get any luck in the roulette spins. I wish it was possible to use diamonds for the leader roulette, too
Fearless still runs into big players so thats pretty good!
Sophie will always be a cool hero to me
There can be such crazy difference from day to day. Yesterday we dominated Genesis, today we got our butt handed to us. Needless to say, yesterday my rallies did a lot better than today 😅 But, we were able to get first capture rewards on science hub, so that was pretty cool
The 900 rage requirement 👌
I didn't notice that
No wonder I killed that thing so fast
I got her on the free spin on my farm
And I had half troops haha
I think I'm up to 6 frags by now, give it a few more months... 
Maybe even a month if you get lucky and get her by free spins
I was really hoping to unlock her before the heroic legacy event ended. Alas, I had to make a 5531 Johnny Kerry instead ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I wish Johnny gets buffed we need an anti healer against Claude and Bodala..
That's how I got Claude and now I have some Isabella frags
Would be pretty fun if he came back from irrelevance. But seeing how IGG decided to give skins to Rubina and Ethan instead of Bella and Bard, who make thematically much more sense and actually need the buffs... I won't be holding my breath
Bard doesn't actually need buffing. If they were going based on need it would be all first gen heroes.
I mean, fair enough. But he looks the part for Sky Father Zeus
Maybe they just like chesty bearded men and thought they needed more.
As long as it's not a chesty bearded woman, I guess I'll take it 
@sage current@round creek imagine an ranged garrison that can finally debuff and counteract riders
As a ranger main, give me all the buffs! No I'm not biased at all what are you talking about
Who dosnt want more rewards lol, but it dosnt matter what we want
Thats evil
just buy packages to play that new "Luckiest Player" game and get nothing
That might be happening 
When using a crap ton of troop speeds for TC. Day 1 make t5 and day 3 keep 1/4 the speeds you spent to make them to upgrade to t6? Seems like its 1/4 the time to upgrade to make.
You still get the thing you pay for though. That's too much, in my opinion.
t3 on day 1 and t3 to t6 on troop day is the most effective, according to somebody who did the math once and I never checked.
There's a few older 499 gold packages that gives you almost nothing
I was looking for a good pack to 2x, and there sure are some crap ones out there
I saw that a while back to but wasn't sure if it was still best or if t5 was easier. This next tc will be ridiculous so gotta get all points we can ha
Oh yeah, just about every one of the "default" packs that aren't in some sort of scheduled event are an absolute joke.
Skynet posted the math, I believe, somewhere in the hero channel. It might be pinned
Why?
Its a bad odds event
Just do it with normal spending if you're a whale
Mr Bagner wanted no rewards, I mentioned it as a good place not to get anything
(apologies for presuming gender!)
The best rewards in the game are the ones you unlock with your credit card.
My account has a bug, where should I report it?
🥹 👍
So I'm told if you click on the president's shelter even as not-a-president you can do your buffs during events. Does anyone want to check on this accuracy?
yes they just added that feature in the last update. auto buffs
Yes but as far as I knew it was only by clicking on the metropolis and couldn't be done during events
I was told u have to be in the region for it to work
Yes but you can also click on your president's shelter to access the menu without leaving the island. One of my members showed me today.
I appreciate this group being supportive of myself. I just don't like talking to strangers in dms
Pretty much any DMs you get from here are just scammers. Being a publicly joinable and larger server, it's difficult to keep up with them.
Ty for the warning, but I kind of already had that feeling when they Dmed me. I closed the DMs
I've had people try to do it before on here to me. I'm not dumb
yea works for me
My account has a bug, where should I report it?
thes support desk
it's not a support desk. it's a support simulator.
anyone have problems by signing in with fb? cant connect at all
Wow that's harsh..discord is a community based platform where members gather to share common interests and topics..so it is by default you need to talk to others, engage with others and get to know others..coming here saying you don't want to get to know anyone is sus
It's not harsh it's just the goddamn truth. I come here to enjoy the game not socialize like a energy viper. Leave me tf alone
How many times has a random stranger DMed you and got you as far as sending them money?
ProFFeSional want to connect too much... don't worry block the invit from this server and you will be ok
/rank
There are higher reward tiers for elite and apex in GW?
Yes
So... does it still justify the rss spent up there?
depends. Red Merit Chests, Superb Armaments, and DLS coins
and the red merit chests give you the Special Devices that are super strong, so for some its worth it. for the average player, probably not
The cool thing to do for merit chests now is merge to apex and farm to give just your friends the chests. I guess.
All I hope for is GW will be more time zone friendly
Slims a weirdo dont worry
I bet it could still work fine if they had timeslots like Pompeii.
How much the chariot cost in gold ? 
if you're lucky..? xD
Average 
10-20k?
how much have you spent?
7K without the last pass
well remember average is only 50%, theres alot of people with worse luck too 😄
Why did they make the pass every 15 day instead of every week 
that's more than me lol
You got it ?
👀
I will spend 5k more 
I hope I get it ,I stayed without a good car for too long 
maybe that's not a priority
That's the only thing that bothers me
call me crazy
you want to lose with a fancy car ?
I almost traded Louis 
for ?
Sophie 
you can't awake her ?
555somthi 
Is the chariot better than the domain 
that is better that any vehicules
I believe this event is the cheapest way to get an ambiance if lucky
Bodala 2da habilidad bug
Eileen+ bodala
218.4% defenza y 138.7% PS
Eileen sin heroe de apoyo mismas estadísticas
218.4% defenza y 138.7% PS
conditional skills wont show in stats but it's there
Eileen + eddy
248.4% defenza y 168.7% PS
if it's just "infantry attack is increased by 40%" it'll show but if there's a "when" or "if" it won't
It's easy from 0 to 8 then it becomes something else 
Bodala 2da habilidad de 32% defenza y 11% de PS no suma
Si tu dices que no se muestra por que la del heroe eddy si se muestra?
about 6 it was alredy hard for me
it's straightforward
no ifs or buts
Buying the divine mandate $5 and $20 for both weeks should give you enough to get up to the 9th relevation
compared to this, it's just igg trying to make sht look complicated
have u gotten 10-12?
No but I plan to stop at the 10th- I have the skin, vehicle and ambiance left. Really hoping I get the ambiance or vehicle.
the ambience would be nice cuz fck riders 
I bought the 2nd one thinking I'd snag a chariot or ethan :<
Did you finish all the sky father trials yet too?
The emblems are opening in 2 days for some more free spins too
Debería ser asi
218.4% +32%= 250.7% defenza
138.7% +11% PS= 149.7% PS
yeah, plannign to get like 5 roulette spin to get the 65 spins mission
sure sure
I missed the first week
Lo que tu dices no tiene sentido, bodala se encuentra bug y caso cerrado
yes, it's a bug. you're right!

Linked device can change?
Is this done the right way?
I've had a few saying they would make my account super strong.. I wonder how lol
Those ones just have you install malware, is my guess.
Lol probably
i finished it all, yet still missing the 3 last items
Not that I was going to try anyway 🤣
But it's a one time thing. Gotta whale em all
Anyone else lagging in genesis, or is my internet terrible
gw is lag with a bit of gameplay
I also have these guys in my tc ranking.
Genesis always lags the worst out of all events
Atleast your troops didnt vanish straightaway.
Cooperation tree should always be like a complete d ick shaped. When you complete the shape its done well
Yes it was lagging. As soon as i was marching towards science hub boom lag started.
I'm guessing it's partly because all of the fights everywhere are at the same exact time
So, no free golden dice for DS for using 1k gold?
They haven't changed that as far as I know
18 is like close to 2 years old now isnt it? Not that crazy
Nah, 18 is like just yesterday
If u quit earlier 18 feels like newbies so thats true
18K??HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THIS MF HAVE
WHAAT
When r we not lagging during war events?
Claude is usually an assistant
It's safeguy. He is most known for spending all the money in thegame.
@sage current thoughts on Eileen Isabella on field?
I don't know what any of isabella's skills are so I couldn't really say
I wouldn't do eileen claude. You want claude to be alive longer, and Eileen is the first targeted infantry
Im glad we finally got a hero that can counter Claudes defense
Back when I started playing dooms. You had a 10k gold buy in to join his alliance.. everyone was lining up
I dont think thats true lol
So youre saying you had to buy 10k gold to be a member of DHX
🤣 thats guys spent over $1 million usd
Had to donate to his alliance
They also have a lot of f2p just dont be a puzzy if it makes sense
Or else he might be an investor in IGG's stock and just gets free stuff
Heard of it, I don't think people actually spent gold to join though
@south ember @mossy schooner what do I say to this
No, Russian cryptobro
Definitely have some spenders in that alliance
Obviously
I saw a video of him calling people F slurs and blacks
Panda?
Yup
@wind yew what do u say to this
pretty sure it's just mistranslation from when his alliance notice mentioned 10k gold vault to join. should mean that recruitment was open for people who had spent enough to have 10k donated in vault somewhere
Yea that's probably from the old region 1 invasion
Back when TC was good
How do you get so mad at someone weaker and you just call people F slurs and blacks😭 😭
Its so funny when we need to relive those dramas
Yea that's probably it, I know r3 have asked me to join a few times and there was no gold cost
He called me a black back when we met in AR lol
Back when I'd get top 3-5 because our president told f2ps go first
LMFOAOA
I heard that’s happened several times in chats. But he’s big 🐳, big money donor to IGG
Racism is legal in Russia
HAHAHAHA
MJ ?
Iirc he said its normal to call blacks racial slurs in russia
Death is killing me
Michelle Jackson
No gold involved anymore. This is back when alliance gold was first introduced
Panda give me your 2nd account I wanna run rallies like you and help my alliance
Nothing beats it when him and panda continues to argue everytime in this channel lmaooo
Did you hear about the black lady that went to Russia because they're not racist
Then 6 months later gets beaten up by racist neighbors
Im smol man with one account 
Which ones 2nd?
He's got like 10
ME WHEN I LIE
Unfortunately, no i didnt heard of it 😭🤣

The one with red equipment
He wants noble acc
Only news I know was that basketball player who got arrested or something
Im the only t5 in my alliance
36k is wild, that's so much money
That's old, illegal drug stuff
The worst part is going there because she's worried about racism in America lol
Money laundering
Our leader has all 3 parts white on his infantry equipment
Parts really doesnt matter anymore
I've never had issues with it though maybe thats because im pretty caramel
Doesn't even improve his gathering speeed either, tsk tsk
FUKIN MUTANTS AND CARS ISNT IT
HSHAHAHHA
how much is 36k in dollars
Ban dyno
Ngl i want that Porsche from the workshop I need some gold
someone math it, im lazy
How much does $100 give
@south ember give me gold youre rich
U should know ure a whale
True
Want to join us? We need a token t5 player
🐳🐳🐳
death is one of the whales of a lifetime
@brittle hound donate 10k gold then you can join ys
Shy and cap tony level
Some would say rrz level
Crut actually didnt come back?
Around 30k assuming 2 points per ball
His prefrontal cortex is developing i see
I'd probably get smacked im weak
big money fr
30 grand for a 3% buff is insane
Thats 1.7m in peso already 😭🤣
I feel like panda is matching pfps
OH WOW
that's what I'm sayin
HE HAS A GIRL?! NO WONDER HE STOPPED PLAYING HSHAHAHAHA
She cosplayed herself as Riven
Can't let your gf be seeing you play doomsday
No lol I just liked this and never changed it
smh crut
Crut is probably one of the OG leaders i know
I dont know because I should've been satisfying all his needs
Panda is the only one remaining when r u gonna retire bruh
look at my hamster collection
men.
🤣
You cant take this panda out the game
fish out here actually touching grass @final gale
Finally!! HAHAHA
tf, get back on doomsday
panda give me that t6 account
he got out of the matrix
unplugged
Ure probably the one whos gonna close that game
T6 really isnt that crazy armaments and stuff are what make a beast
And safeme
and beasts
My legs I dont want to walk they were killing me yesterday and I still had to workout on then
How the t6 250m whale stares at my t5 infantry squad going to my R5's shelter for a rally
I couldnt even finish my ab workouts because it required my legs :c
Dont do ab compounds unless youre strengthening your core they depend on your nutrition and if you train them train them like every other muscle burn them to failure
not a real whale if he didn't just swarm you
Did you skip leg day too much
HE DID HE PULLED OUT 5 SQUADS ON MY PETITE AZZ T5 INFANTRY
1000/1000 zombies
Nono it was unrelated I had to workout with my legs and my abs came next
good, proper whale tactics
Me
Mew with feet be like
Now give me a t6 account so I can do the same ill just terrorize petite T5s with Sophie Louis
Say that to my weak ahh
go spend money then
15id with t5 still?
This used to be a farm account I gave to my friend while I had a ranged 200m might account which I entrusted after I quit..so I came back 
I literally bought a new car and a new pc just a week ago im not willing to see my total transactions on DLS around 4500€ again😭
T5 can still whoop a T6 with better workshop gear and allat
I need 23 more blueprints to get my first t3 workshop bench
Get all vehicles to level 15 while t5
Then beatup the f2p
I only have the 2 free ones..
I wish I had the Porsche at least
You mean 25
Donate me gold so I can get 25 like you
@light edge everyone know u love them
She’s got legs and knows how to use them!!!
What if she just fails a squat and dies
... 
i got medusa 😍 she has no legs tho
question: how big can alliances eventually grow to be in terms of mamber cap?
180
nice, that's good to know to look forward to. We have some neighboring alliances that hopefully can combine together in the future
Morning Evveryone!
How do I get more festive snow globes? After killing 1000 zombies, I bought a 7000 gem pack and 10 euros, and I have 3700 points. There are people with more than 10000 points, qualifying for Dracula's Refuge.
they drop money in that
thanks
Who has 1 pack monopoly
no idea, but GrOp is hosting a 2 pack monopoly
Thats like being in a job with no pay
In my opinion 1 pack is better value until you do like 4 packs where you can get top 1
I guess you can get more metal with 2 packs but if you already use all the gold dice with 1 pack...
Typa stuff I'd do for a t6 account with red ranged equipment🥹
Range troops are wankers
Id rather buy all the gold dice than more 2000 gold packs
Sponser me highguy i watched all your vids
This one dude from the alliance beyond the wall whooped the range like its nobody's business
Whats up with equipments obsession they barely give any lmao
Idk i just want an account with Ethan where I can walk over inf garrison
If an alliance captures and holds a village, but after that, a watch tower in the middle is lost disconnecting the village and the alliance fort, does the alliance lose all benefits from the village? or worse, does the alliance lose control of the fort?
Or, does the village now functions as a separate fort?
2 packs is a good start, we plan to host more packs later but this is our first time hosting so we are having to stumble through the process LOL ALSO its christmas time so we didnt want to exclude a bunch of people around the holidays
Mine completely disconnected a few minutes ago
No
Yes in first ques
Buy me gold
got it, tahnks
U wont lose control of ur fort. Its ur fort
Connection is all based off forts
Anything disconnected from Fort doesn't help
oops I meant the village lol
Disconnected village gives no buff
Got it.
I work 2 jobs and doesnt spend in here, highly reco
Theres a way in there to find which village is giving u buffs or which villages u own. I think ure able to see it if ur r4 /r5
my alliance has kind of a late start, we are just starting to get to the point of tryihg to take on a village for the first time (-:
in terms of difficulty, how does a village compared to Lv2 hivemind?
Villages r easy. Cities r the tough ones if everyone in there r newbies
Do you have an 2nd acc you dont use or you can entrust by any chance?
my alliance has ppl who played similar genre games before, but otherwise we are all new to this specific game
Coaches doesnt play
Wdym by coaches doesnt play
Everything is in pandas youtube
that cat has a very swollen chin
Just don't ever stress yourself here
There's a lot of strong people who spend a lot
New people come everyday so no worries, just play at your pace have fun
yeah we might at most try capture a single city and probalby won't expand beyond that.
If other alliances don't cap the city first
Get it on your farm too. See if it has legs or not.
does attacking villages/cities count as Seige for the purposes of Hero Talents? (first attack, so PvE not PvP)
Pretty sure it's only against shelters but I never thought to test it
and towers
I forgot about this already 🤣 just use ur range and riders rally leaders
ok
Really? Maybe I just assumed it was shelters because the siege tree has some shelter specific talents
Idk i believe its for towers too back then
Villages shouldnt be so hard nowadays esp with armaments and stuff
is Town harder than Lv2 Hivemind?
Dont worry about how many troops you put in your rally worry about the skills on your heroes and what heroes youre using for a newbie I'd recommend you Cynthia Catherine or Lee Louis
You seem new and if you have money spend do Catherine Cynthia, even if you have a smaller amount the sustain and damage from your skills should help out.
thanks for the tip
going with catherine cynthia means riders only, don't mix troop types right?
You can mix troops but having riders only will give higher damage and buffs,you can make a restriction but you need a certain level for your Battle Center to unlock this option.
for an alliance rally, do squads sent by other members also use my heroes' talents? does that mean the hero they pick for their squads don't matter in battle?
It doesnt matter,the rally only uses the skills your hero has
Your leader is based on your skill tree and your assistant is based on your skills
That is... very interesting. I was mislad by the campaign memory mode
What heroes do you have?
Watch pandas youtube u can see all the starting of the game vids in there. Saves u time and thinking lol
running low on battle manuals at the moment
Headquarters Lv 16 upgrading ot 17 right now, running low on speed ups at the moment
GrOp is hosting a 2 merchant pack District Showdown during the NEXT DS! Want to ring in the New Year rolling dice with the highest alliance in the game? Reach out to save your spot TODAY!!!
That's what killing zombies is for
@wary pumice this dude helps u get xp when u kill zombies
Bro laughed at his own gif
runnon low on stamina to kill zombies with lol
With back alley and the Christmas event, everyone gonna be broke on stamina
Anyone's game lagging like crazy?
Or just buy em in alliance store
Usually does during war events or updates
Tho pc runs better
Dude's just swimming looking at himself in the mirror?
Hahahaha
I am usually fine but the game is unplayable right now its so laggy
Maybe because new update
See if reinstalling helps, goodluck
Don't forget Claude
Bro has Lynne awakaned before Sophie
He should have been raided 100 times 
Didn't I tell you? I am the only person in this game history who got 100% of their investment refunded back at quitting
Most people get 10%, 20% if lucky..100% is legendary
how much did you sell for?
I thought you weren't gonna quit until you get a date
@ancient crystal
how much troop might you got? looking pretty inflated there
the event just started, and I've already accumulated three quarters of a 0 out of 0
What the heck I haven't seen thag
under "Regualr Events", Bonus Troop Day
It's a new region thing, I'm pretty sure
3000$
I got the best built account for what I spent in what you get in this games history.. as such it got 100% value..why? Because as I said i am one of the best informed players, who spent months and days on this discord asking every content creator and high end player for tips and tricks playing devils advocate to properly build
So for 18 months I essentially was paid to flirt
Came out like a champion
You bought the same packs everybody else did. However, I understand you trying to justify to yourself the spending of thousands of dollars.
Nah i didn't buy the same packs
And you're still really confused. You weren't paid. You paid.
Like when 2x coupon came out and we had 3 chances NO one knew for example where to max it but I did
Its small things like that that add up over time
Yeah, I know, you didn't buy the same packs that the imaginary people you compare yourself did. I get it. I understand what you are doing, I think more than you might.
Being smarter than people knowing what maximizes value - not a single time had i had a farm
I asked people in region to spot me weekly for oil or wood so I didn't need a farm so my hours were saved
Delusional
For gold I was r4 I controlled the gold flux in and out maximizing returns
YESSIRRRRR
Throe a party
Throw*
For every advantage possible I made sure to be lean
Incredible maneuvering let this be an example of a true star
Fallen star
Bruh its xmas that's cold
I am looking for warmth and comfort
I bet if I ask Weston_88 what they paid, it's far less than 3k.
At some point why not give applause and say great job man I cant belive you did it
Ain't nobody giving it to you here
lol
Why would anyone congratulate you lol
Cause i did things in this game others wouldn't or couldn't
People spend a bunch of money and sell at a loss in this game all the time. People also harass anyone they think is a woman regularly.
As I said i never got a loss and got tons of girls play so ultimately came out with girls and with money back all while having fun for 18 months that's salt Bae territory of legend
I know you never said you sold at a loss. I did, and you know I'm right.
You just cant believe what I pulled off like i said I know it pains you to hear it but its true
You're an incel bro
Wow eh I support incels but I am the complete opposite of such
Incels hate women and see them as the enemy
I just got the chariot BEFORE Ethan skin or HQ skin. I only bought the discounted weekly pack and the $5+$20 packs...now I need to decide to drop some money to try and get the skins.
One of our guys got it before that too
they spent 2970 too much
Still has ethan skin, the like profile thing, and the ambiance
I legit feel bad because my best friend IRL spent $500 and no chariot.
Its like buying Micheal Jackson's piano bro
He got that doomsday luck
Some people are legends their accounts are worth a ton for the infamy
No it's like buying a homeless person's poop
One man's poop is another man's poop
I didn't feel too bad because the first thing I did was send him a screen shot and a GIF of Big Bird riding a wagon.
more like buying his piano and it just ends up being a random used piano
Menace lmao
Don't take it at face value. Dude clearly picked the number because it's what he was called out as having spent several months ago.
Yeah anyone stupid enough to spend 3k on an acc that bad clearly deserves to go bankrupt 🤣
Can get an acc 20x better for a smaller price
I want to ask the guy what he actually paid but I don't want the auto-mute thing to give me a mute in game for saying the wrong words 🙁
Let's just hope humanity hasn't regressed so far that the guy would've paid over 1k for an acc of that value
Jfc my brain cells just died
Him comparing his account to Michael jacksons piano gives me the thought of someone using a Mc Donald's resume to show their account is more valuable
Inspirational individual in the chat
How is that absolute dumb mf even allowed to speak in discord considering he circumvented his ban?
admins gave him a second chance if he didn't do whatever the thing that originally got him "banned" was.
Legit, and hes admitting to selling prob should slap him with a ban so he can quit in peace lmao
Yup, and he won't ever get what he wants either lol
Technically, it's just advertising buying/selling that's against the server rules. 
Yes but this servers for the game, breaking tos and admitting it here is why he got banned before
Tos was broken, therefore you mods have an obligation as community moderators to inform the admins.
it costed me about 600 or 700 odd dollars to max out the sky father stuff over the past 60 days or something
Just incase people need proof
All I know is I spent nearly 30k in 2 years and it was worth the time I spent on this pooo
Got to meet lots of chill people's, but unfortunately met slim also.
10/10 would dropped 30k right now if he gets banned immediately.
tell him he is about 200 or 300$ away from chariot 
I got the chariot in about $100 ($25x2 and weekly packs). I'm wondering if I shoot for more.
I spend, but that wasn't mine lol
Booo
but yea, "technically" the sky father event the divine seal is supposed to be "random". the % of getting a divine seal drops like shet though
Your new account needs a taste of the whale life, you whale.
0.13% for the 12th seal
so all in all, i think unlucky people might spend about 1k on this event
or more (yikes)
The luckiest spend 0
update. I lied, I just checked my purchase history, I spent about 500 in the 100$ packs + weeklies so around 600odd dollars for the total event
$0 here
you've won
Enough of these cookie cutter "events" with 50 skin tags in the shop and I should have the Miyamotor skin for free by this time next year
Can someone explain why in beast base explore I have to restart area 24 after completing area 27 a week ago
True
Its new region event where they get some extra troops from training
Looks like it's time I purposely train a lot
Doesnt exist you get muted for mass reports
It did for a minute there
Though I guess I haven't heard of it happening in a while
Everyone got muted after being reported many times it was abusable
12k still didn't get any 😭
People were getting muted automatically from keywords.
And from what I understand, it is still in place to an extent, just not as out of control as it was before.
12k what
Gold obviously 
I need that 
every week it resets
we all have to restart from 1
Doesn’t make sense, yes we restart at 1, press suppress and it should pickup at the last area cleared, but instead is starts lower
Okay, but I can still defeat hostiles until latest area cleared
Yea just fight them
When will collab release 👀👀
did anyone noticed , there was dr ally event there at reset but now its no more
/rank
It's still up for me
Does any1 else wanna build a snowman
Nd yes this is princess Debbie frm doomsday
This is I Lil Debbie snacks
Nice work
No clue who that is, wait actually I recognize the name
Not mines. But yeah u got the idea