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[primal cloud]

perche non posso scrivere nelle altre chat?

per prendere le ricompense

[jolly pelican]

buenos dias busco cuanta con t6 para intercambio o alguien que esta por dejar el juego

[jovial viper]

When will the new infantry hero arrive?

[abstract sleet]

cuanto dinero tienes?

[sage current]

Insane. 4 people have paid 100 dollars for only 25 device fragments

[shy shoal]

Anyone can help me please where can I unlink my facebook from the game since I lost it

[slim bluff]

in 2025 prob

[sage current]

contact support in game

[shy shoal]

I tried it asks me bills of money I spent in 2023 😅

I don’t have anything left my phone was stolen

[sage current]

Tell them this and they may have alternate ways. They are the only ones who can unlink an account.

[shy shoal]

Thank you 🙏

[south ember]

I'd guess fall

[gaunt patrol]

That’s because that account isn’t in this server. You gotta search it as if you was adding a friend individually

[sage current]

Wrong server?

[sage current]

Why are people buying the helmet when they're free weekly?

[slim bluff]

I feel bad for 345 people that bought the 3x Beast frags

[sage current]

Oh ouch, I didn't even look at that.

[latent parcel]

299 why...mine is 499

Beast frags lol

[south ember]

Varies by might

[slim bluff]

I got in cheaper 'bracket' because i don't spend
You probably got expensive things because you spend probably

Idk

[slim bluff]

That doesn't make sense then as im high might and i get cheap stuff

[south ember]

Idk, this is what I get

[south ember]

You get 10 with the weekly mega armanent sale for same price. And it gives you a bunch of other stuff too

[sage current]

You get 5 every week for 0 dollars though

[ancient crystal]

POP QUIZ "winner gets prize" - Q: During Pompeii end screen a MVP is announced from the winning team. This player is shown with a particular squad as a final result, the question to you is how does the game determine what squad hero to show for the MVP? Go.

[ancient crystal]

15 purples pop corn is 49999 gold?

Wasn't there a give away of 3000 purple popcorn to special people? 3000 x 4999 is what 1.5M gold ? So igg giving away 1.5M gold worth of stuff to members now

[slim bluff]

4,999 not 49,999

[ancient crystal]

Yah you get 15 so 3000/15 x 4999

[slim bluff]

Also its not pop corn its called Polymer

[ancient crystal]

100,000 worth of gold for polymer

Here

[slim bluff]

100,000 worth of sanity gone after reading this

[south ember]

That's 3k gold

[subtle rune]

How come mine done look like that?

[slim bluff]

Because you spend more money probably

[subtle rune]

It’s different from Death too

[jovial viper]

The prices are too high... In our country, we need to work for a month to afford all these packages. ( Min price $500 )

[echo atlas]

all? I don't think I've ever bought all of them maybe I'm just broke

[jovial viper]

Yeah, not all of them... I can't even grab one of each

[south ember]

Thev limits 1 of each. Idk why you'd buy that though

[echo atlas]

I just try to grab the gem one if i can

although i miss them usually

[sage current]

Love the pompeii matches where it's normal people vs the people who sold their homes to buy gear 😦

[echo atlas]

I've played very few pompeiis historically. couldn't make the times that my alliance(s) has set

[sage current]

It's usually pretty fun but today was only fun for half our players while mr. lvl 20 everything workshop, full sets of maxed supreme armament worked his way to their shelters.

[echo atlas]

dang

maxed workshop is expensive fr fr tho

i aint even close

IGG released a bunch of stuff last year while i was gone

[sage current]

I saw this guy's ID started with a 10 and though maybe his parts were just from time. Nope, he is still spending.

[scarlet pewter]

I come next time we bully then

👀👀

[ancient crystal]

lets be real, no one has 20 everything, even whales have (1) ONE 20 workshop and the rest at 12-15

no one will have 20+ the $ required is beyond anyone with a brain to invest

The good thing is that IGG has made the whales focus on BEASTS and drain whales wallets on beasts but beasts do not impact 90% of the player base so its a perfect way to siphon money from the whales while not affecting the game for the majority of the players

because beasts only impact rally and garrison commanders who happen to be WHALES already

[latent parcel]

Yes. Discord avengers

[subtle rune]

You are smoking again lol all the megag whales are sitting 20+ each

[latent parcel]

You need to start a professional discordwood acting industry...you will get more girls

[wind yew]

You can literally check there are whales with 20+ across the board, are you drinking ?

You're probably on cracj right now

Wapple can't even save you now

[wind yew]

I love you

[ancient crystal]

There maybe "some, a few" like we shouldnt be using a tiny amount of players who are irrelevant as an example to follow

so what if there is a few people who have 20+ across the board, you wont see them they are all bundled in G1-G10 which no one of us are in or care for, for the average player who is dominating in the G50 these whales are a figment of the imagination

[wind yew]

no theres alot of them

[ancient crystal]

For those of us in the NON APEX/ELITE brackets we are absolutely dominating the competition

[wind yew]

look at plenty of the top whales in top brackets

[ancient crystal]

there cant be A LOT OF them man there isnt a lot of them because the cost to get 20+ on workshops are insane

[wind yew]

I fought a guy in genesis with all 20s across the board

last AR same thing

[wind yew]

there are in fact alot of them

[ancient crystal]

because its insane by definition means a lot of money and because so few people have money there cant be a lot of them

[wind yew]

the games got plenty of players

[ancient crystal]

saying alot of them means people have a lot of money, how can they haev money. i dont have that much money why should they

[wind yew]

so people are going to spend even if its one of a hundred thats still alot

[ancient crystal]

like i went to school i got good grades i worked hard how is they can spend that type of money on a game and i cant it doesnt make sense

[wind yew]

you're something else

[ancient crystal]

its frustrating to see and to hear, i wish more people spoke up about this

[wind yew]

can someone frame this

[bleak stream]

I don't have money so no one has money

[wind yew]

LOL

[scarlet pewter]

What i did

[sage current]

Stopped playing Pompeii with me 😦

[magic silo]

they are not huddled just up there, can confirm. There's whales with 20+ on multiple devices sprinkled everywhere.
In fact, i'd wager, if you're a whale who is still spending on workshop, you are far more likely to have multiple 20+ than not

[magic silo]

Slim just now learning there are Billions of people in the world with phones

[scarlet pewter]

Next pompie league lets make pompie win streak .

I come with your alliance

[vagrant island]

I always hear about people taking out loans for this game. They should have learned SOMETHING in good grades school to know that DLS is a hole they are throwing money into and lighting on fire.

[latent parcel]

Invite me. Let me test once.

[scarlet pewter]

Bcs you work 9-5 while they worked 24/365 to make you work 9-5

[scarlet pewter]

OK im just a visiotr dill is leader need his permission bro

[sage current]

Sounds good

[sage current]

we can probably do two. I'd have to ask the Pompeii person though

[scarlet pewter]

Okay

[latent parcel]

I might obstruct someone place in his team

[scarlet pewter]

Lemme know when next league come we make stresk

[latent parcel]

Alright, let me know. Same rating as you.

[tender grove]

What is a Pompeii❤️🌈 I have noticed people on discord saying the word “Pompeii”, but I am not sure if it is a “Game Slang” or anything like that or if it has to do with the game in anyway❤️🌈

[sage current]

It's a small pvp match that alliances register to participate in weekly on Tuesdays at set times.

[tender grove]

Thx for letting me know❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Taking loans for this game?

[sage current]

It wouldn't surprise me the way some people treat borrowing money.

[vagrant island]

I have a sad that no one has shared they enjoyed my “good grades school” joke. 😆

[lavish acorn]

A+ for theory, F for practical

[vagrant island]

Fair.

[wind yew]

What he said 🤣

[odd sapphire]

Where is this 2nd anniversary celebration store? Couldn’t find it since joining the game on the 29th

[magic silo]

Pretty sure is over now no?

[tender grove]

2nd anniversary expired 2 weeks ago ❤️🌈

[cedar cradle]

When I play a game focused on Infantry, which parts are suitable for me to upgrade first?
Walkie-talkie + Steel Plate + Magazine Pouch and Adamant Blade + Nano Grip + Leather Sheath
Or even if I'm only going Infantry, should I do the middle first?
Rope + Compass + Canteen
What is the best choice for me? Those parts that only add Infantry? Or the middle one?

[magic silo]

Backpack is highest value- dmg reduction>dmg>skill dmg
Then do the hp parts for infantry.
Attack and defense parts last.

You want the rarest stats prioritized for the best value.
Attack and defense are everywhere, low value.

Also don't go too crazy on parts- the power per cost is extremely low.

[south ember]

hansz almost has 4 maxed vehicle kits

[cedar cradle]

Great. Thanks for the helpful answer. 🙂 ♥️

[digital basin]

Yes that's how the pricing is in every chinese game. I am from India and the basic package is 449rupees which is a lot. That's 2 days worth of meal for me Plus that pack isn't even giving anything good

[reef warren]

Hello

Hello Att993

[lavish acorn]

Damage reduction highest value cause you survive longer rite? Meaning more damage dishes out?

[tired rose]

Did i smell new leader hero?

[scarlet pewter]

Yeah

[tacit marsh]

New hero??

[tranquil shale]

@excelsior97 accha

[olive fern]

😄 ouch

[native olive]

The "selling point" for Infantry should be it's Tankiness. So damage reduction, health points, counter attacks and defence are the main stats for us

So, yes. We survive for longer, dealing average/low damage

[verbal quail]

🎯

[tired rose]

But rider have the most damage reduction stuff
Also highest rage number and highest speed

[native olive]

Totally correct. To new F2P players we suggest riders exactly for those reasons

[hallow cipher]

I bay the frist one for passaport they dont

Give me how it’s possible

[native olive]

That one do not have VISA

The one with VISA starts from 0,99

[south ember]

Buy the one that has visa. It's towards the end should be 99 gold

[slim bluff]

If you can upgrade Squad dmg reduction it is very efficient than other buffs out there

It makes taking less dmg by % which is pretty significant considering you reduce all the damage you can receive (not only skill dmg, but basic dmg and counter dmg too) and will apply to all of your squads

[lavish acorn]

Yea, cause better 2% damage reduction compared to even 2% health boost

[slim bluff]

2% squad hp increases the base hp of the troop type
For example Infantry t6 has 247 base hp, a 2% hp will increase that to 251.9

It doesn't mean 2% reduction in damage

[indigo tusk]

Здравейте има ли някой българин

Hev something from Bulgaria

[gilded sorrel]

lol

[tender grove]

Which gear should I upgrade next because I am a “Rider” user, but I’ve heard people talking about we should upgrade backpack first for damage ❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Yeaa, but damage reduction is really really rare

[slim bluff]

Pants to red

[lavish acorn]

Oh, one question

Is it better to rank all to blue or one to red first?

[tender grove]

Thx sir❤️🌈

[slim bluff]

one to red

[soft roost]

In that white bear

[light edge]

Don't put parts in the range stuff hyper focus rider

I imagine you did it before chose

[tired rose]

Even new whale these day focus on 1 type

[tender grove]

Thx so much❤️🌈

[granite tree]

:emoji_05_weisuoxia:emoji_22_xiaochou:

[fathom raven]

This pay to play is getting ridiculous and starting to not be worth playing anymore.

[tacit marsh]

All games like this are the same way. Best off to just quit mobile gaming xD

[fathom raven]

Right at this point igg is taking advantage of spenders but then they don't care about the people who cant afford which is mind blowing

[native olive]

I'll do for sure, once I find the uninstall button for this game

[tacit marsh]

I found it and then got dragged back..

[versed palm]

👍

[native olive]

Oh no, not going to happen.
When it's over, it's over 😂

[sage current]

👎

No links.

[vagrant island]

They care. The whales want to eat all the plankton.

[nocturne hawk]

Hi everyone, do we have a new code for gifts? 🫶

[vagrant island]

Look here -> https://discord.com/channels/907212172554289152/1097369426879316119

[nocturne hawk]

thanks! u.u 🥰

[fathom raven]

Lmao 😂🤣😂

[light edge]

question...
if you miss 1 reward in the weekly gold pass the next day it's the next reward or you fck your whole week ?

[south spade]

Hello

[primal vapor]

Ngl but I'm missing the pacific rim event. Especially in bounty ground. 😫😫

The roulette spins are kinda boring now in bounty ground 😔

[south ember]

You get the next in order, so can't get the last one anymore

[tranquil shale]

Peggy gone, norah in

[native olive]

I was wondering why so many new players recently. Then, I understood 😂

[opaque otter]

No links please

[eternal nimbus]

Chiamali scemi 😂

[light edge]

i see ... they are smart

[magic silo]

Damage reduction is highest value for all troop types because few things improve your trades better.
My understanding is dmg boost on the other hand, applies to your dmg, then gets filtered by all the enemies defensive stats.
Dmg reduction on the other hand operates on the final dmg value from the enemy, and drops that by a %.
So in theory 1% dmg reduction helps trades a lot more than 1% dmg, no matter what

Oh my discord glitched again, didn't realize how far back that tag was 😆

[worldly elbow]

Hello

[slim bluff]

Your theory doesn't make sense

If 1% squad dmg reduction is valuable at having better trades then 1% squad dmg is exactly the same in terms of value

[nocturne hawk]

Hello, i have a question, does the movement speed vary depending on the number of troops the row or hero has?

[magic silo]

Okie dokie

[magic silo]

No, only the type

[slim bluff]

The trades should be exactly the same weather with 1% squad dmg or 1% squad dmg red

[sage current]

It depends on the difference between damage you're already doing and damage already being done to you. 1% of 200 is more than 1% of 150.

[south ember]

more like evil

[magic silo]

Whatever you say

[magic silo]

This is the thing
If 2 people are attacking you same time, what's doing more for you- dmg, or dmg reduction?
If it's identical in a 1v1 (i don't really think it is), cool. In a 1v2, 1vx it just gets better and better for dmg reduction

If i do 1% extra dmg and the enemy has 3k protection, 800 block, 400% defense- neato burrito.
If that same person is doing 1% less of 5985747474755 dmg to me, it's a much bigger deal

[thorny sandal]

first mistake was getting hit by a megawhale

second mistake is thinking 1% dmg reduction will make any difference if that happens 😂

[red plover]

guys can you tell me pls what i have to update for headquarters lvl 23?

[magic silo]

It's the extreme to illustrate the point- even if they're slightly stronger it still applies. Or even

[magic silo]

They recently changed all the requirements- it will be research lab, a barracks probably ranged or infantry i think (plus corresponding production building) and probably hospital, barricade, scout camp or something
Wish I had better answer, but won't for a couple days yet

[heavy ruin]

What kind of event is coming with the "Pioneer Exploration"??

[vagrant island]

soo, anyone know when the alliance points from constructing get added to the balance?

[vagrant island]

IIRC, it represents an underground facility you're looting for supplies and equipment. Do activities to gain hammers, then break the hammer while opening storage lockers.

*mental reminder to set aside time to do pioneer exploration and add data to heatmap

[hallow cipher]

Can someone tell my where I can bay rename card

[vagrant island]

In the alliance store. A r4 or r5 member will have to add them to stock if there are none. The store building should also have them but they are prohibitively gem expensive for what you get.

[magic silo]

When you return squad to hq right?

[vagrant island]

it looks like alliance points update every few minutes. and individual points update when the squad returns to the shelter

[slim bluff]

F2P in g1 issue

[vagrant island]

click on the the headquarters level up button and it should appear on that screen

[red plover]

@vagrant island man i know but i Need to know the next level so i can take advantage on that build

[magic silo]

It applies in every situation.
Even whales prefer the dmg reduction for this reason

[slim bluff]

Nah whales usually go for atk and skill dmg

[magic silo]

Okiedokeeeee

[vagrant island]

Draco's basic damage reduction would be better in your example... 😅

[magic silo]

Pango

[slim bluff]

They go atk and skill dmg bcs they want to deal more damage rather than take less

If they knew better they would go for Squad dmg as its better

[magic silo]

And as sky will always tell you, every whale always makes the best decisions and knows the game best

[mystic scaffold]

DMG Red > DMG
But I do see most whales going for DMG, because they wanna kill as much as possible.

[magic silo]

And they always choose the best stats because money=brains

[sage current]

I traded my damage for damage reduction last week and I don't regret it.

[slim bluff]

DMG Red = DMG*

[mystic scaffold]

DMG would technically increase 1 Skill damage and Basic + Counter.

DMG Red would be equal in 1vs1, but the moment another or more are added. With DMG Red you would reduce all their skills, not just one.

[slim bluff]

Same can be said for DMG when you hit something with many squad

[mystic scaffold]

In a 1vs2. Your DMG would increase your 1 Skill, while enemy use 2 Skills at full power.

DMG Red would do more

[magic silo]

Also, like am I crazy, or isn't multiplying your small numbers by a number worse than dividing their big numbers by the same number? 🙃
Is this not just math?

[sage current]

Except you're not hitting more than one squad nearly as much as getting hit by more than one squad

[slim bluff]

What if im doing more damage than those 2 combined?

[magic silo]

I AM assuming I'm usually working with smaller numbers here, because I don't spend.
Don't have to be in apex to be smaller than 99% of the players on the field

You go further down, there are LESS players out there, not necessarily weaker ones haha

[mystic scaffold]

Then DMG better, but I was going by equal strengths

[magic silo]

Then it literally doesn't matter
Take your arms off and have fun 😆

[sage current]

I'm not good at doing stuff with my toes 😦

[mystic scaffold]

Thata true.
Reducing 1% of DMG from whales is far superior than increasing your own by 1%.

Thats why Heroes in Infantry class with all their debuffs or buffs for allies or enemies are nice.

[vagrant island]

lay out the math for the 3 scenarios. 1 v 2 equal, 1 v 2 the 1 is stronger, and 1 v 2 the 2 are stronger

i wish teh game would let me log off

[slim bluff]

Why bring unfair scenarios like 1v2 just to prove that squad red is better
It doesn't make sense

[magic silo]

That's been my only point.
Most people getting this advice, are not stronger than most other people.
Most people should prioritize dmg reduction for the best trades.
If you're strong enough dmg is better, you probably didn't really have to choose. Just take both

[magic silo]

Because that's a common scenario.
There's only ONE then that dmg is EQUAL

You get tagged by aoe, etc in fights

[mystic scaffold]

Well, need to go by all scenarios, 1vs is extremely rare unless friendly.
1vs multiple is the norm.

I personally will always go for DMG, simply because I wanna kill as much as possible, but DMG Red, would have given me better trades.

[slim bluff]

Ohh i see 1v2 for dmg red is common scenario
But 2v1 for dmg isn't

Makes sense

[mystic scaffold]

I play Rider and take speed stats for the moments when I fight someone mich stronger and have to run haha

[vagrant island]

whenever i see fights everyone picks one other squad to fight mechwarrior clan style like in that documentary about batman and rising as the dark knight

[mystic scaffold]

Because in a 2vs1 you yourself having more % DMG does still only increase 1 Skill. While DMG Red would decrease multiple skills.

Your increased DMG doesnt increase the DMG of your ally directly.

[slim bluff]

Ally?

[mystic scaffold]

Hmm I think there might be a miss communication.

When I say 1vs1 I am talking about players, not squads.

If you do 5 squads vs 5 squads its still the same as 1 squad vs 1 squad

[slim bluff]

So how is red red better then squad dmg?

What if in 2v1 both you and your ally had dmg instead of dmg red

[mystic scaffold]

Essentially DMG will always only increase 2 Skills, 1 Basic, Multiple Counter if extra enemies hitting you.

While DMG Red will reduce 2 skills and more the more players hit you, reduce all their basic attacks and reduce 1 Counter.

Meaning DMG Red will reduce the DMG of more sources, then your DMG will increase sources.

In an equal power scenario.

Unequal if you are stronger always get DMG and if weaker always get DMG Red.

[slim bluff]

You think it reduces dmg of more source, but its doesn't, dmg increases the damage of the same sources

[mystic scaffold]

I am gonna write it out a bit more as an example.

[sage current]

Two people are twice as many as one person and I'm not sure how else that can be said.

[mystic scaffold]

1 vs 1 as mentioned before. What ylu pick matters more depending who is stronger.

1vs2 + 1% DMG
You have 1 squad, that Squad can use only 2 Skills, get 2 Counters on both enemies and have 1 Basic ATK.
Meaning your 1% DMG increases 5 Sources of DMG by 1% each.

1vs2 + 1% DMG Red
You have 1 Squad that takes 4 Skills, 2 Basic Attacks and 1 Counter.
Meaning your 1% DMG Red reduce 7 Sources of DMG by 1% each.

Making DMG Red more usefull anytime you fight multiple squads or players, if all are equal.

[vagrant island]

1 * 500 = 500. 2 * 500 = 1000. 1% of 500 is 5. 1% of 1000 is 10

[slim bluff]

Again with 1v2 argument
That doesn't make sense

Why not mention 2v1 then?

[vagrant island]

do it in reverse

[mystic scaffold]

Because 2v1 is quite literally mentally R

🤣

2vs1 DMG means multiple people with their 1%.

Ofc picking 1% 2 times is better than picking 1% one time.

But that doesnt help you or help him.

If both in a 2vs1 pick DMG Red they still better off.

1vs2 for your own stats
Or
2vs1 for 2 players stats, isnt a good argument for why you yourself should pick a stat.

But I gave my POV.
@magic silo you can have it again

Btw sky

I know what you mean

But its minimal affect.

Technically by pure math, everyone picking 1% DMG would allow enemy to die or reduce troops faster, reducing the DMG enemy does.

But it all depends on what moment you are in. Hunting someone who runs, always get DMG.

Running away, always DMG Red.

Swarming enemy, then DMG, getting swarmed DMG Red.

Then depends on how strong everyone is and so on

[slim bluff]

2vs1 + 1% DMG red
You have 2 squads, one Squad that takes 2 Skills, 2 that take Counter and 1 that takes Basic ATK.
Meaning your 1% DMG red wiĺl reduce 5 Sources of DMG by 1% each.

2vs1 + 1% DMG
You have 2 Squads that deal 4 Skills, 2 Basic Attacks and 1 Counter.
Meaning your 1% DMG increase 7 Sources of DMG by 1% each.

[mystic scaffold]

Thats a really good Point

[slim bluff]

The math is equal
I just don't know how you guys see more benefit in dmg red than dmg when its exact same thing but in reverse

[mystic scaffold]

Except dor the difference that the 2vs1 is not influenced by only you, so unless you only fight with allies, it will never happen.

While the 1vs2 might happen more often.
Or ?

[sage current]

Because each one of my squads is one squad, not two.

[vagrant island]

a little inclusion in that second example that should not be there fyi, sky

[mystic scaffold]

Essentially just going by what scenario's I encounter more often.

[vagrant island]

MUST LOGG OFF

[mystic scaffold]

But still I go mainly DMG.

[vagrant island]

it depends on how long the fight lasts as well.

[mystic scaffold]

As a Rider player who is able to run from stronger enemies and fight when its to my advantage

[vagrant island]

so to stir the pot before i log off and go do the things i should do...

[mystic scaffold]

It also depends on your heroes.

Usinf Raigoro and Bianca with DMG is less effective than Victor or Louis

[vagrant island]

which is better on an armament? + DEF%, Basic Attack Dmg Reduction, or Counter Damage Reduction? And Why.

[mystic scaffold]

I think both sides are right, depending on which situation we look at.

Only difference is, which situation is happening more often

[mystic scaffold]

Depends on your troop type.

Rider have high defense, so increasing it by 1% is nice, but Bodala True DMG ignores defense.

Counter Damage is bad imo, it always only reduces 1 source of DMG.

DEF or Basic Attack DMG Reduction always

[slim bluff]

I try to be very efficient when it comes to trades
I don't casually approach 2 squads or more with my 1 or few squads unless i know that ill win

Im confident to say that more than 70% of the fights i had are me 2v1 instead of 1v2

1v2 would be just suicide for me, especially against whales

[vagrant island]

Ok, my thought is that DEF will help vs Basic attacks and Skill damage. Whereas the others only reduce 1 type of damage.

[mystic scaffold]

DEF is universally good, unless they add more True DMG that ignores DEF.

[magic silo]

I still think that because there's an extra step when you're doing damage that pure math still puts them unequal.
Your dmg is multiplied THEN affected by their defenses.
Your dmg taken is calculated THEN affected by dmg reduction.
The order of operations means the effect is different as far as I can tell, strictly based off the perspective of who we are talking about.

[vagrant island]

there's also probably the diminishing returns thing to consider.

but to build a rally set for a vs chasey situation the answer would be clear

[magic silo]

The only complicated part is that they reduce those specific types of dmg by a much larger proportion, and of course you generally take all types of damage in any fight.

[mystic scaffold]

Do we have any proof that we have diminishing return for those stats ?

[mystic scaffold]

Imo that would be the same unless we can see how the math has been done

[magic silo]

Not strictly speaking, just implicitly by fact of your defense levels are already much higher than dmg reduction levels

[magic silo]

If their dmg is 1% higher and your dmg reduction is 1% higher they cancel out, but for your own trades, your 1% gets filtered by everything again

[mystic scaffold]

But would we be able to scale defense so high that enemy doesn't do any damage?

[magic silo]

Because it's a factor i don't think so.
You could scale it down close to 0 but never 0 in theory

[slim bluff]

Depends on troop type and play style

If you're a ranged squad you will get targeted most of the time
Counter damage and basic attack red should be valuable here

If you're an Infantry squad then those 2 wont see much value

[mystic scaffold]

Depends on the formular.

( Total DEF - Total ATK ) × any multillier, means that it can be 0

Or at least negative = 0

But thats not the case i am sure

[magic silo]

I guess I'd expect there to be some addition step at some point so that there is a floor

[mystic scaffold]

Because otherwise t1 troops wouldnt DMG me

[magic silo]

Like i kind of expect 400% attack vs 400% defense means you'd do close to some base value of damage

[vagrant island]

i think Z said he was able to do that

[mystic scaffold]

I remember before armaments and all that, I was really close to getting the right Combat Formular.

I tested non stop on different troop tiers and adjusted until I got extremely close, but there seemed to be something hidden.

Now with all of the stuff, i would take weeks or months 🤣

[mystic scaffold]

Can you DM me that

I know that DMG can be extremely low, but I havent ever seen anyone do no DMG

[magic silo]

The igg magic touch

[mystic scaffold]

Google told me that many devs add a random modifier in it, that varies.

Same as many games have skills say 14 to 18 DMG, but hidden.

So I think its that

[nocturne sand]

Hi everyone

[magic silo]

That would be disappointing and unsurprising

[mystic scaffold]

Problem I think is.

Since they dont make the math public, we will never know if some skills or things work as intended, maybe some skills are wrong etc.

I wish they listened

[vagrant island]

some transparency would be nice

[mystic scaffold]

You want me to time you out till tomorrow, so you can sleep ?

[vagrant island]

lol

[mystic scaffold]

Helping whenever I can

[magic silo]

At a bare minimum I wish they'd unify the skill descriptions more. Just clarify the wording, reduce ambiguity, and provide a little more detail on those dmg values

[vagrant island]

one more thing... what is the base number that these values are calculated from? the squad type and amount?

[magic silo]

Also side note, I actually HATE that stats are given as a % i don't know why. I've never played another game that did this.
They use numbers that are factors

[magic silo]

Yeah the troop stats in barracks

[vagrant island]

if i had more time id do some low level ID pvp but that would take more time. fudge! the time! later ons!

[mystic scaffold]

It took me entire weekend to tweak formular to get it right to like 1-2 margin and that was without all the added shenanigans and firepower and beasts etc.

I assume its impossible now, until you get close there is another layer added already.

[mystic scaffold]

Also to add. I was only able to calculated big amount of troops like 100k and more.

The moment you use low amounts, the game does some weird magic and no number makes sense anymore.

Like how a 1 t1 troop kills 7 of my t6 troops before it was defeated.

Meaning there is a base DMG, like Ari said

[blazing garden]

Ok

[blazing garden]

Cxz6- alliance ok

[errant pagoda]

Can you link your pc version of game to your mobile phone?

[clear mortar]

I'm new to the game, I join an alliance but it keeps saying join discord id att993 idk what this means I can't figure it out I'm in this discord so what's discord id att993

[sage current]

That's not a real alliance. Look in the region's alliance list. The top alliances will be real alliances with active players you can ask to join. Any alliance that has a leader who repeatedly sends mails about messaging them on discord or being kicked is just a scam.

[clear mortar]

Oh okay, I didn't know. I'm new, so I was confused as to what to do. Thank you for the help and info, I appreciate it.

[sage current]

All good. It's been a problem in new regions for a few months now. A good rule of thumb to save time is to only join alliances where you have to apply and be accepted, likely by talking to a leader -- not the ones that you can auto-join.

[clear mortar]

Okay, awesome I appreciate the help. I'll make sure to find one that I have to apply for from now on.

[lapis island]

Who is the best support for a chasey garrison?

I seen victor a few times. But some saying felix.

[lavish acorn]

The t1 troop just goated that’s all

[vagrant island]

Link the Steam/Epic/Google account with IGG account.

[slim bluff]

What happened to hero channel?

[burnt nova]

I think it is their account name, but it doesn't feel good to be forced to join their discord group when you don't need it

[slim bluff]

Wait nevermind.. i accidentally minimized all the read channel

[hoary mango]

how much would it cost to get to vip 9

[slim bluff]

Depends on the currency

[hoary mango]

wym

[slim bluff]

There are many ways to reach vip 9
That be with gems, buying packs, obtaining free vip points. ect

[hoary mango]

let’s say i download the game rn and i wanna get it withen a day

[magic silo]

Super inefficient, I couldn't even guess 🙃
You can do it in a week or so with minimal spending if it's in an alliance that spends decently

[magic silo]

Is scam

[hoary mango]

how much

in a week i mean

[burnt nova]

I vaguely remember seeing that scam warning notice in game news ages back, but I was puzzled about what they gain from this scam

[magic silo]

It would vary widely, in a big enough spending group very little
Would have to hear from someone who spends

[burnt nova]

make friends with someone in a whale alliance, you get a lot of gift boxes as a byproduct of them buying packs, which includes vip points

[burnt nova]

"decently" 😅

if you are in a normal alliance, and you are not using gems to increase it, just from packs, then roughly 10k for vip 9

[fast storm]

Can Cynthia be a garrison or. No ?

Lmao

[magic silo]

Absolutely not ever no

[magic silo]

That's fair, I go to 8 on farms a lot, but i didn't really pay close attention, and 9 must be where it gets really egregious

[fringe willow]

Mantap

[fast storm]

So having a rider legendary item that has a garrison plus 5.7% (red ) attribute is useless?

[elder rock]

Hey what's the protovirus fragments used for?

[magic silo]

Can use it for chasey

But usually it's better to just have general stats unless you're whaling out big time

[magic silo]

The who?

[elder rock]

@magic silo the protovirus frags from the beast thing running right now. I figured it out though

[south ember]

Only for ranking

[bitter gorge]

Hi I M new please help me

[tall hedge]

why are we having multiple rider top commanders they didn't do it when they released Ethan?

[muted zenith]

I just tried coming back to the game after a while, WHY THE F*** IS THERE A 2 GIG UPDATE?

[south ember]

Every release was 2 in a row

[south ember]

On pc?
They don't do patches for the official one

[tall hedge]

thanks

[exotic plover]

Guys any idea why I can't buy decoration roads on shelter it's like if they were missing or something

[dire yarrow]

Are they skipping infantry for the TC?they only did 1 time for infantry then once also for range then twice for riders since there are new commanders

What a let down for the next TC

[south ember]

No

[magic silo]

How many more times you think we answer this question this week?

[dire yarrow]

Appreciate your answer 😃😃😃

[gleaming summit]

how's everyone doing, is this game still alive?

[native olive]

Wanna come back already?
How long have you been away? 2 weeks?

[median sage]

I should probably log in too lol

[south ember]

Maybe a dozen times every time there's a new hero and we get the double tc

[timber imp]

Hey, can anyone tell me, how i can leave my alliance; im searching and cant find the button lol

[south ember]

Alliance>settings

[molten pendant]

if you are leader you cannot leave - disband alliance or make someone else a leader

[vagrant island]

The recent update on the Steam version was ~660 MB.

[native olive]

Any update on official PC client is in the magnitude of 1,5/2+ gigabytes.
Mobile app? Some megabytes.
🙃

[sage current]

The PC client does this efficient thing where it just downloads an entire updated copy of the game for updates instead of patching the existing files.

[south ember]

I think they use steam and epic to do the patching and don't know how to do a parch themselves

[sage current]

You would think they would want to save bandwidth.

[native olive]

That makes absolute sense, talking about IGG

[half dawn]

What is the IGG ID Soars feature?

[vagrant island]

IDK but if you search on the internet for "IGG Soars" (business news) people gave IGG insane amounts of money in 2024...

[south ember]

High spending whales get a whatsapp and discord contact

[molten pendant]

mods - maybe do not enforce 'no account trade rule here' but jsut provide screnehsots to devs so they can ban the acocunt for trying to be sold ?

let poor guy pay for hes new account, then ban it for RMT ;]

[thick plume]

my squads don't listen to me D:

[echo atlas]

idk what they did in the backend but my game be laggin thanks igg

[steady wave]

is there a group or is there action we are bored?

[mystic scaffold]

Problem is, we dont know if its really their account.

There have been scammers selling accounts they dont own or have access to and some "smart" people actually fall for it 🤣

[molten pendant]

lol

[mystic scaffold]

What kind of group are you looking for ?

[brisk pond]

why can't enhance it

[native olive]

You must kill more people

[brisk pond]

oh.. thanks dude

[atomic lotus]

Salve ragazzi il prossimo evento quando è??

Dovrebbe essere genesi

[delicate cypress]

Please use my Gold Shop ambassador code and claim exclusive rewards.
Code: F24191

[fading sierra]

what is the cycle for top commander hero types?

[magic silo]

Infantry ranged rider right?

[fading sierra]

im asking and you asking back? hhahaha

[south ember]

Next is rider than infantry then ranged

[fading sierra]

appreciated

[south ember]

Probably one of each until the next new hero.
Or back to 2 of each...who knows, igg doesn't really announce that stuff

[harsh hill]

Han

[tranquil shale]

💀

[steady wave]

look at the G8 we're bored :/

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/died-of-cringe-anime-cringe-dies-from-cringe-aharen-san-wa-hakarenai-gif-8233879981104552173

[mystic scaffold]

I quite literally have 0 kill points.

For the past 2 days, everytime I have time to get on, no fights happening. Walking 10-20 minutes over to the enemy is annoying so I didnt do that either.

😭

Friday is usually the day I can actually play AR. 🤣

[sage current]

No

[rich hamlet]

Walk over to oOo territory someone will fight you

[wind yew]

I saw a whale sitting on their towers yesterday nobody would come out to fight him lol it should be the other way

[rich hamlet]

People need to sleep Panda 😢

[mystic scaffold]

You mentioned the problem.
Walk

🤣

[magic silo]

Even in game, walking is hard when you are lazy
I am lazy too
Especially when it's the walk of doom, i just go play outside instead

lovely weather here right now

[sage current]

Set your squads to walk to just before the location you want them to go to so they've stopped by the time they are engaged, then go out and do something. Come back later to heal.

[magic silo]

ok mr beluga bazooka

[sage current]

I was just swarmed down, one squad vs 15, and traded on average 1:4 on all the reports 🙂

[magic silo]

apple changed you man

now you bully too 😭

🤣

[sage current]

Nah, I just found a small pocket of weak people by absolute luck.

Now I go back there and all of my legion is also there so they won't come out 😦

[echo atlas]

I wonder if it works in real life

[echo atlas]

no cardio fr

[pale wind]

Is Privileges Subscription worth it for a new player? I’m about 10 days old, 7.5M might. I have Radar subscription. Any other recommendations?

[tender grove]

Is 290 Catherine Fragments enough to max out all of her skills❤️🌈

[sage current]

680 to max a heroes skills

[tender grove]

Thx so much for letting me know❤️🌈

[magic silo]

If it were me, I wouldn't spend anything until I could buy the vehicle workshop passes, and maybe armament passes
But it depends on how much you're spending

[oblique arrow]

Does anyone know how long t5 research is? Like the research that unlocks t5 infantry

[magic silo]

in the #🌟┊new-player-help pins there is a spreadsheet from starcroft

info is in there

[weary eagle]

Hello

Omg I'm so new to this chat I'm so confused already

[sage current]

Channel categories on the left. Brief description of the channels at the top. "pinned" messages at the top right--a thumbtack symbol. This server does have a lot of channels but you'll find you only really want to read / chat in a couple.

[signal hull]

Where do I go for it it sent me here

[oblique arrow]

I can't find anything about research time, just buildings time 😶

[magic silo]

i'm sure there's a tab for tech

1 moment

[oblique arrow]

I found it, I was looking for messages by that person, it was a link from another person, thanks 🥰

[magic silo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D-flidqMrwMPPBOZrf6kKDysTlA9FAelsxxULBOV624/edit?gid=28248075#gid=28248075

[magic silo]

ah ok haha

[oblique arrow]

It's too bad IGG doesn't have a website with this information organized, lot of people are always looking for it

[oblique arrow]

Thank you for this, the pinned one only went up to T4:)

Btw this might be useful for those not onto using spreadsheets (or using their google account to see them). It's basically a TC calculator, (still need some improvement, but it's usable). https://dls-calculator.github.io/all-star-night/index.html
(Not sure if external links are allowed here?)

[vestal oracle]

6164EA - 25% offer 2/3

[vagrant island]

But then people might not spend money on the game…

[scarlet pewter]

5 chances left tell me which one 🥹

[wicked sun]

[keen ruin]

The one outside of it

[wind yew]

2nd row #3

Trust my future vision wapple I'll lead you to greatness (don't sue me if I'm wrong)

[scarlet pewter]

Duhhh you hacker man

[wind yew]

OH MY GOD IM THE GOAT

Dude

Dude

[south ember]

[scarlet pewter]

🤣🤣 WOW 🤩

[wind yew]

I literally looked and it was just hitting to me but my favorite number is 5 so I wanted to say 5 but I was like NAH IM FEELIN 3

[scarlet pewter]

Got 45 purple chips and 10 helmet all from 20 hammer

[south ember]

Panda is dev, he knows the pattern

[wind yew]

I get this like glowy feeling

I can't explain it

[scarlet pewter]

Still 4 left

[wind yew]

Then it's right when I second guess myself

[scarlet pewter]

Save for next hammer event

[wind yew]

After that I need a lottery ticket

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-pooping-face-constipated-lbm-poop-gif-16363634

[scarlet pewter]

After next AR done 5 star 😗

[slim bluff]

Not going for devices?

[magic silo]

I didnt want to be the one to ask

[south ember]

Whapple probably 5 starred them all already

[slim bluff]

I wouldn't go for superb unless i have 5 Otic Camo Net on 5 of my squads

[south ember]

maybe he does

[scarlet pewter]

I need to max superb once then i peacefully can max device

I have 5 star IE

[placid bridge]

Wow

[tacit marsh]

Whale... I only have 5 superbs maxed pfft

[scarlet pewter]

I have only free ie augment max

[tacit marsh]

I don't even have a max IE aug

[scarlet pewter]

You started recently i am grinding from 740 days

[tacit marsh]

Oh ya... so recently

[scarlet pewter]

Im old men waiting for his final breath

[tacit marsh]

Im 500 days in

[scarlet pewter]

And your workshop and heroes already surpasses me .

[tacit marsh]

Does not

I have zero hero skins you whale

[scarlet pewter]

I got it in gift

[calm zephyr]

Combo is basic attack for beast right? So it acts just like the normal basic attack?

[south ember]

If you consider active skill to be basic attack.
Counter and combo both trigger active skill which is the every 3s one

[calm zephyr]

What I want to know is what triggers combo or counter, I'm still trying to understand things about beast

[south ember]

Combo is triggered from each hit counter is triggered when beast is hit.
Rate depends on those special stats

[calm zephyr]

So if I'm running away being attacked from behind the combo won't trigger even with 100% combo chance right? I want to clarify things before I invest further into beast

[magic silo]

tbh i'd check a report when running away. I'm pretty certain, since you can see the animation of the beast attacking ever 3/6 seconds, you don't see that when running away

so presumably the beast does not retaliate when your squad is not actively attacking no

[calm zephyr]

Thanks for the infos. I understand it better now, it seems like there is no aoe beast skills so this clarifies a lot of things. All beast skills only activates on the target squad

[peak swift]

i'm a trippin or elena/felix are better than adut/miyamoto on the field

[south ember]

Probably right

[native olive]

It's very likely to be correct.
Also, as Infantry nowadays you would run either Doichi/Bodala or Doichi/Riven

[ancient crystal]

Please don't advertise that

People don't speak about that openly

[latent parcel]

Yes

[magic silo]

I'd do bodala miya, to make best use of the skill dmg boost to assistant

[south ember]

Why not

[magic silo]

He thinks he's an innovator
Dont nobody innovate like the sliminator

[native olive]

Uuuuh right, forgot about that

[cursive badge]

Hey as a new player, which duo should I focus on between the 3 roulette riders? Daryl Felix Elena

[latent parcel]

Felix

[umbral thistle]

Form a team of three to get 25% Gold Bonus Voucher, and use it to get in-game rewards! ▶My code: C978D2 ▶Event: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=C978D2

[agile quiver]

Does anyone know when the dickey z4 will be back?

[south ember]

No idea on the schedule, it just randomly comes back when you check your vehicle building.
I think at least monthly

[molten pendant]

its just vanity item at this point anyway. pack makes no difference

[tired rose]

Very expensive cosmetic

Since the other stiff are basically useless

[upbeat moat]

Forma un equipo de tres y consigue un vale de bonificación de oro del 25 % para ganar recompensas en el juego. ▶Mi código: AF362B Evento: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=AF362B un equipo dd 3

[tender grove]

How do we obtain tickets for squad skins❤️🌈

[south ember]

Don't think you can anymore

[tender grove]

Thx for letting me know❤️🌈

[wind yew]

Why do you send a heart and rainbow after every message

[tender grove]

That is how I type my messages❤️🌈

[copper tree]

Are bots banned in alliances?

[tender grove]

Someone said that alliance’s are not supposed to have them, but IGG bans bots in alliances when they find out which alliance is responsible for having them❤️🌈

[south ember]

Yes. It was unenforced for a long time but recently there was a ban wave on the bot accounts.

[uneven widget]

how much total gold is it for the "Ball Phantom" series for Cynthia outfit?

[mystic scaffold]

400 Dollar so 40k Gold ? I think

[uneven widget]

tyvm for the info

[marble siren]

E10617 code d’invitation équipe de 3 pour l’évent rejoignez 🙂

[livid tulip]

https://dls.igg.com/event/gold_invite/?code=AFE9C5

Forma un equipo de tres y consigue un vale de bonificación de oro del 25 % para ganar recompensas en el juego. ▶Mi código: 8423BF Evento: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=8423BF

[vast marsh]

Any team for 3?

[onyx trail]

Form a team of three to get 25% Gold Bonus Voucher, and use it to get in-game rewards! ▶My code: AEDFCC ▶Event: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=AEDFCC

Only need 1 more to join!

We each use our 25% coupon in the Gold Store and then receive 800+ gems bonus + other items

[exotic plover]

Guys any team that need 1 more for the gold bonus?

[slim bluff]

I do

[exotic plover]

te envié dm

[thick plume]

is there an indicator in report who attacks first?

[slim bluff]

i guess the first second of combat aka turn you can see who launched a basic attack first will mean that they attacked first

[sage current]

Usually. I noticed every once in a while the first tick appears blank and then the second shows both parties attacking so you can't tell. Not sure if that's a bug or just some weird happenstance occasionally.

[sage current]

No links

[magic silo]

i wondered if it's when they both click each other kind of last second

[sage current]

Best indicator though is when heroes have skills that trigger being flanked.

[bitter gorge]

Forma un equipo de tres y consigue un vale de bonificación de oro del 25 % para ganar recompensas en el juego. ▶Mi código: B4D380 Evento: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=B4D380

[tender grove]

I never understood what this was for❤️🌈

[sage current]

It discounts the resource costs while healing. It's not really noticeable if you aren't fighting in AR while it occurs.

[tender grove]

Thx so much for letting me know❤️🌈

[tired rose]

Not really noticeable until you unlock t5 troops

It disappeared so fast

Might as well seem like it didnt even there when i have t6

[tender grove]

Thx so much❤️🌈

[magic silo]

They just had to add another slot machine tho, couldn't help themselves haha

even though it always rolls the same amount

[west wraith]

ب

[thorny sandal]

early on wasn't the same % always

[magic silo]

yeah, and for obvious reasons they dropped that haha

i think it was like 2x it was actually random

[thorny sandal]

yea was stupid

[delicate cypress]

Forma un equipo de tres y consigue un vale de bonificación de oro del 25 % para ganar recompensas en el juego. ▶Mi código: 833E52 Evento: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=833E52

[echo atlas]

these shelter skin reruns are super nice if you're a whale (back when those skins were on the leaderboard type events, they cost way too much)

unfortunately I ain't buyin that shi

i think with this new "roulette" you end up buyin an advanced shelter skin for 'bout 500$ ish, more if you're unlucky

[echo atlas]

really? since when they changed that?

i kinda sat on my tickets waiting for a skin i actually want

[pulsar stratus]

Cant make clan it always says duplicated name or Tag but I know there is no duplicated names... why can't I create an alliance?

[echo atlas]

what's the name/tag of the clan

imma search it

[pulsar stratus]

I've been searching cant find any1 with the same clan Tag or name is there some other special way to search outside the alliance screen?

[echo atlas]

gimme the name

unless you're trying to create something that's TOS

[pulsar stratus]

Wanted to name it OmniKings couldn't careless about the tag

[echo atlas]

someone has it in #65 and holds the name hostage

find another name

[pulsar stratus]

Rip guess I didn't turn on cross region or expect that

[echo atlas]

ya, you gotta use cross region for an ALL search for every server

[pulsar stratus]

Thanks

[echo atlas]

it happens often, someone wants a name but someone else took it and quit the game

[pulsar stratus]

I don't even get that cross region option no wonder I didn't see it lol u play mobile?

[south ember]

The old event is gone so I don't see any way to get more

[pulsar stratus]

Of course that clan is 1 guy too rip he couldn't delete

[echo atlas]

oh rip

[echo atlas]

yep, like i said, someone creates an alliance because the tutorial said so, and then quit the game

[pulsar stratus]

Appreciate u showing me I'll figure something out

[lavish acorn]

Is there no way to get the black market lights?

[tender grove]

Click on the + button and it will assist u on how to obtain the “Black Market Lights”❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Yea, no ui or anything

[lavish acorn]

Yup, think mine is bugged out

I can’t press it, guess IGG wants me to spend more 😂

[tender grove]

Try to close game and then re-open❤️🌈

I believe it may be a glitch❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Since the other account i have had it. But everyone else in my alliance also complaining bout same thing

[lavish acorn]

Yup still bugged 😦

There shud be other items and the other account i logged onto has everything

[tender grove]

I understand ❤️🌈 Sorry this has happened to u❤️🌈

U may need to make a ticket❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Yup doing it now. Thank you for your help 😁

[tender grove]

Ur welcome❤️🌈

[lavish acorn]

Don’t worry, it’s just a sign from IGG to spend more

[vague kite]

Hey good evening. Why can't I log into my second account even when entered my password correctly three times

[tender grove]

Maybe give it sometime and it may be fixed soon❤️🌈

[sage current]

I had an issue the other day. I think I waited a little while after restarting and it worked okay. No clue if that will work for you or not.

[vague kite]

Thank you I'll wait and see if it works.

[swift shadow]

Is anyone interested in playing with a level 23 and t4 castle?

[south ember]

No

[shadow spear]

Form a team of three to get 25% Gold Bonus Voucher, and use it to get in-game rewards! ▶My code: B4D380 ▶Event: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=B4D380

[south ember]

I thought you quit

[tired rose]

T4 player as kill chaser? Sound like an easy point for opponents these day

[opaque otter]

Sorry @broken gale, your post breaks this server's rule number 1.
If you want to make a specific complaint about a player(s), please open a ticket in-game and provide screenshots.

[native olive]

It's probably from a newer region.
Poor people: they have no idea what are they going to go through

[native olive]

One thing for sure, old shelter skins bonuses were very good.
Recently they did a special promo for purple skins: there were some interesting ones

[swift shadow]

Of course new region not old one.

[high harness]

Does anyone also have an issue on bounty? I have changed nothing. Same troops and same heroes.. But it's extremely slow.. what happened there?

[echo atlas]

sadly im broke but i probably would have hashed money for some run speed

good thing im broke

[vagrant island]

Check for updates. Clear cache in settings > help.

[native olive]

And I would had spent money for that +3% Infantry hp +3% Infantry defence.
But, we are broke. Right? 🥹

[plucky mist]

tom and raigoro, which is best as leader?

And Bella + Elena?

[native olive]

I would say Raigoro for garrison duty.

Bella to lead Elena, because of Bella debuff increasing Elena damage

[rich hamlet]

You know IGG doesn’t read this right?

[echo bridge]

People really coming on discord to report, crazy times. 😆

[wind yew]

Even if they did it wouldn't really matter they'd only get banned in a wave tbh

[nocturne hawk]

Oh cmon , why you snitching like that omg 😂

[noble kite]

1 more needed

Form a team of three to get 25% Gold Bonus Voucher, and use it to get in-game rewards! ▶My code: 833E52 ▶Event: https://dls.igg.com/event/team_coupons/?code=833E52

[vagrant island]

Raigoro, his 4th skill is a damage bonus when a shield is activated so you want him lead if there is an assistant with damage factor on their rage skill.

[vagrant island]

I would suggest Elena / Bella due to the way Elena's damage over time works. 😉 It appears to skip damage on the turn it activates and does damage on the next 3 turns. (Caveat is that Bella / Elena will be better for short fights)

[slim bluff]

Scientists say that it doesn't matter which one you lead with
Elena 2/3 will always be increased weather she is a Leader or an Assistant
It will never be 3/3 of her damage

[vagrant island]

Ok, gonna argue with you on this...

ninja edit real quick tho...

[slim bluff]

Brain is there to think first then pick a side
However the society teaches us the pick a side first then think alike

[vagrant island]

😖 I am incorrect, you are correct.

[vagrant island]

I will not rest until I find uninstall button for you!

[south ember]

there is an alliance review discord they could use

[slim bluff]

Its to late, damage has already been done

[opaque otter]

Breaks several of their rules too 😂

[south ember]

💀

[storm sapphire]

Elena to lead bella because of the Skillful Firepower Talent in the skills talent tree. If bella leads she doesn't benefit from the bous skill damage, rather than if you have them the other way around. 👍

[rigid cradle]

honest question - did alliance journey use to be easier to get rewards ?

[sage current]

I don't remember it being any different

[rigid cradle]

so min. 2500 pts to get rewards ya ?

[sage current]

Maybe? I've never looked at the numbers

[mystic scaffold]

Do numbers scare you ?

[mystic scaffold]

But that way Elena doesnt benefit from it, since skill snapshots during release and elena dot damage wont have it either and she does more total.

Or?

[sage current]

Most numbers don't but I rarely enjoy looking at them in games.

[vagrant island]

Nov. 26 2024 was the last time I worked on an AL spreadsheet. It may have been 1000 pts for the first rewards then. They changed rewards and added a tier which led me to stop making spreadsheets for those types of things.

[storm sapphire]

PM'd you on discord with the screenshots to show the testing of it. Was a lightbulb moment for Brain and I when we realized Elena's damage is treated independently each second as opposed to Buff at Rage Cast = Bonus damage for full 3 seconds. It shows why Elena Lead works better in that pair 🙂

[thorny sandal]

how many tokens needed on value lotto to clear the board?

[quasi pulsar]

Idk exact number but you used to be able to buy all of the packs that cost gems and clear it... now it takes atleast $50 on top to clear it

[thorny sandal]

ye in old one I know, I mean the new one

[vagrant island]

Victor Timely: #🌟┊new-player-help message

[tranquil shale]

I ignore it coz i know i can't reach even 2500. Lol

[hushed nexus]

Z what’s your take on leth/blck vs atk/def stats - somehow maximizing leth/blck and also having decent workshop levels it feels a bit weaker compared to having that 10% extra def at expense of say 120 more lethality - hard to explain unless you see the setup but generally which stat do u value more

[silk zinc]

hi, how much does it cost to get that roulette shelter skin please ? and is it guaranteed ?

[native olive]

The only guarantee thing is IGG getting money

[final gale]

Probably around 600-1k$

If you really lucky maybe 400$?

Well idk but it's most likely what it is

[silk zinc]

well my luck is usually on the low end, 800$ is like 4 great weekends back to back; that Skin is really tempting but seems like a dumb financial decision

IGG give me a discount please

thanks for the answers by the way

[empty crypt]

friends , how much frags does one need to awaken a gold hero?

excluding super weapons

[subtle rune]

680

[empty crypt]

thanks bro

[plucky mist]

Once there was an alliance called "ice" if I remember correctly at region 54 that moved to help in another region a year ago.
Does anyone know about them \ alliance name nowadays and what region?

[cursive laurel]

Lookin for invite code

[subtle rune]

There is IC8 in region 116

[south ember]

Do you know the members? You could ask one

[storm sapphire]

I look at it like this.

How many different ways do you have to obtain Atk/Def currently?: Alliance Research, Base Research, Troop Talents/Active/Passive Skills, Armaments, Garage, Equipment, Parts, Shelter Skins, March Skins, Troop Skins, Toggleable Buffs, etc.

How many different ways do you have to obtain Lethality/Block?: Armaments.

For me, I went 1200 Block on my Armament set simply because there was no other way to obtain it. As IGG continues to bring out more content to the game, it's clear I will have more and more ways to obtain atk/def, which, as any other stat, we've seen can have a diminishing return the higher final stat number is. So the 1 avenue to obtain lethality/block, I took the opportunity to try and maximize how much I can obtain.

Both stats also operate within different parts of the mathematical equation for how damage is calculated. Atk/Def towards the start of the equation, Lethality/Block as a multiplier at the end.

Now take some numbers for example:

100 x 2 = 200
125 x 1.75 = 218.75
150 x 1.5 = 225
175 x 1.25 = 218.75
200 x 1 = 200

You can see from the math, that generally when you have a balance of increasing your baseline number and the multiplier impacting it, you'll expect your best returns, as opposed to going extremely heavy on one subset. I apply the same principles to Doomsday Stats for Baseline & Multipliers. Not going too heavy on multipliers, but certainly not neglecting my baseline (atk/def). However, since there's so many opportunities to get Atk/Def, I look to make up for that by chasing the multiplier where I can.

[vital basin]

Zombies

[vagrant island]

It IS a dumb financial decision to light money on fire.

[plucky mist]

Unfortunately no, was my first alliance so wanted to see how it goes

[south ember]

You could ask the other alliancesin region.
That's old region so they could've quit or left

[violet grove]

so any news on a new event to get superb armor ? since the other 2 events are dead now

[nocturne hawk]

hi, Does it make sense to remove weapons before genesis registration?

help with matchmaking?

[south ember]

No

[native olive]

If someone want to gift me anything, I know it's a scam

[coarse kettle]

what after it ?

[sage current]

Collect resources every 24 hours

[coarse kettle]

i mean about stages

how can i open lv 2

@sage current

[magic silo]

In your research tree, warfare tab

[magic silo]

There are no more

[coarse kettle]

thanks

[modern bison]

[vagrant island]

Has anyone looked into IGG’s “Frozen War”? It appears to be heavily inspired by frost punk.

[magic silo]

I love frostpunk

They'll tarnish the name!

😆

[sage current]

It looks like they re-cartoonified the model and made it snow.

[south ember]

Isn't there a winter something already?
Pretty sure I saw ads for a similar one

[magic silo]

Have seen the winter ads

[vagrant island]

Yep reskinned DLS. Makes me wonder if Daryl is supposed to be a gateway character.

It’s portrait mode locked. 🫣

[magic silo]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-oh-scared-cat-animal-gif-21828684

[native olive]

Good catch.
100% re-used assets

[sage current]

DLS is just Lords Mobile, is it not?

[vagrant island]

Snow-piercer train instead of police station…

[vagrant island]

I will start yet another game, Dill.

[native olive]

I can't agree. Lords is way simpler, compared to this game.
Almost childish.

[sage current]

I mean, it was a reskinned Lords Mobile. A lot of files refer to heroes as "Lords" is my only clue, since I never played Lords Mobile to know.

[vagrant island]

Oh that’s an IGG game too. I’m trying Time Princes: Dreamtopia after lords mobile.

[sullen harness]

@cunning wave Where would u put Rubina on the tier list

[vagrant island]

Uggffh! Lords mobile is dumb and I like it… 😥

[echo atlas]

I see Ace, Chungha/Jinzo in the wasteland exploration

[slim bluff]

How do you see them when event didn't actually start yet?

[south ember]

Are you on their team

[echo atlas]

i dont think so too weak for that

[bleak vapor]

If you want a wasteland exploration team to help you kill zombies and be active, join, code here: 97609

[hushed nexus]

Thank you very much for a super explanation - gives me more confidence in the leth/blck stats

[native olive]

Oh, I see. They took parts of Lords and re-used them here

[paper skiff]

Which one the best?

[frosty inlet]

infantry -> miyamoto, lynne -> range, felix -> rider
depends on your main troop type

[thick plume]

I go for the 10 arm frags below

[slim bluff]

Armament frags are best or carbon for workshop

[keen ruin]

Especially the vest

[dusty grail]

Did anyone here attend the 2024 World Championship in Thailand? How easy was it to obtain a spectator pass?

[fiery sigil]

Ayyye 🤗

[dark shore]

How to fix this? I can’t click on the button

[native olive]

I took you don't have connectors to use.
You need 2 connectors to press the button 1 time

[dark shore]

I know but I can’t get any of them

The + button doesn’t work

[native olive]

You have to do specific task to get them (gathering, radar missions etc).
Plus, you can acquire a fixed amount of connectors every day.

I suppose you reached already the max amount you can get

[dark shore]

I didn’t get any thing

[native olive]

Maybe it's a connection issue. Try to completely close the game and then start it again.

[sacred pendant]

😎

[civic badger]

Good morning, a questions, Genesis pairing, does it take into account the makes up of the alliance e.g How many T6 or is pairing just based on might?

[tacit marsh]

It's based on some random might bs

[west sedge]

can anyone explain?

[shy ether]

? The Steele event ranking has different players to your TC ranking. Guessing it’s possible to have someone in both events but very unlikely

[west sedge]

No, Same ranking.

[marsh axle]

Need help - I'm attempting to immagrate but get message "can only immigrate to outer zone". Question is my level to low or what do I have to do. I'm in zone 1 trying to move to central zone?? Stumped

[west sedge]

I see ALWAYS the Same Player in all Rankings there. Just not the super Mega whales. This sh1t is handpicked by DLS. Is not the only once I see this. Their apex league get low Rankings that they shine more in their also handpicked fake war Event

Who believe any Rankings are fair is sadly stupid

[tired rose]

Idk about you but for me it always different group of player tc and stele

Only great hunter and tc is the same group

[west sedge]

Then im stupid That I see always the Same Player in stele and tc except the Mega Money Spender. They are never there.

[south ember]

They were originally the same but have been separate groupings for a while now

[west sedge]

It would not making any sense to separate those Rankings. So it’s just a lie. Mega Spender get a low ranking and are the only one who are not in the Same ranking. And I Follow this since Long time ago….. just weird that I see always the farms and f2p low and midspender in all 3 rankings. But always one appear who is not and funny is, it’s always a big Spender.

Guys you all are blind. That’s a huge joke. This handpicked matchings make me sick. And all player believe it’s fair and they have a good System without look closer this "L" in DLS is for liar

[south ember]

What rank are they in tc then?
That much stele gives a good bit of points you should seem them in ranking

[south ember]

That's almost 30m points in files so that's top 4 if you're not lying

[west sedge]

I see all of them, just not this dhx guy. And I saw also all player in all the tc before

[west sedge]

Look

[south ember]

Stele is separate group that's why you don't see him

[west sedge]

No it’s Not

[tired rose]

Everyone else have different group and you are the only lucky one that have the same group then 🤔

[west sedge]

How many times I have to Tell you. I saw always everyone in stele what also was in my tc Rank and also arrow Event just not the mega Spender

IF EVERYONE have different rankings or like you say groups, then why i had the same 5 ppl last tc in all 3 rankings who fought with me for the rank, why I Had the same player in all 3 Events in Archer tc before who fought with me for rank….. why why why if everyone have different groups

[tired rose]

That’s why i said you are lucky

[west sedge]

Then I guess you are also a mega whale.

[tired rose]

Im borderline f2p who only buy shelter skin tho

[west sedge]

I watched the ranking on 5 different accounts now. On 2 accounts whales appear only in stele. But all 5 accounts have the same f2p low and mid spender in stele and tc. Look like just my rankings have always the same player

[tired rose]

What you should hope for is to not be in this kind of group

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/949143869210124318/1354610518748561468/IMG_5573.png?ex=67f5141b&is=67f3c29b&hm=088000c4649e11a10552d9e48e88e0cf2bda797dc7fc7e406c8c206126328557&

[west sedge]

Old picture of a ranking what is done Long time ago

[tired rose]

This’s from last tc

Not a single one of them in my tc rank tho

[vagrant swallow]

Is there any new hero for infantry '-'?

[west sedge]

For this you have to deliver a proof that they were not

[west sedge]

Open your eyes

[tired rose]

You can believe what you want then

[vagrant swallow]

? Im asking peacrfuly

[tired rose]

Should be this year but not next infantry tc

[west sedge]

You can answer this question by yourself. But if you ask if new Heroes coming….. then yes there coming always new Heroes, never ending Story

[tired rose]

If anything we might get new leader hero

[vagrant swallow]

Ah okay sadge

[west sedge]

I believe what I can see

[tired rose]

But you didnt believe what you currently see tho

[west sedge]

What it is?

[tired rose]

This

[thick plume]

hoping it stays this way

[west sedge]

And since a guy from hnb confirmed that matchings are handpicked and exist, yeah I believe this very

[tired rose]

Look like it gonna be the very same then with everyone waiting to push last minute

3k for top10 incoming

[west sedge]

It’s always like this, nothing new

[west sedge]

Don’t hope, I can promise you 4K Minimum with the new Rider

[thick plume]

my files

[west sedge]

But you can Share the result on thursday. Im sure a whale appear what made no points but all other in this stele ranking are also in your tc😏

[thick plume]

yepyep

[west sedge]

The Support beast give 50% of all his stats to your leader beast

Crit, combo, atk, def and all other stats

[vagrant swallow]

Owhh i see ,,its automaticly? Or do i need to do something after unlocking that?

I feel like nothing change lol ,that why i feel get scammed 🤣 1k blue thing is alot lol

[west sedge]

No, you have nothing to do

[vagrant swallow]

Okok thanks

[tacit marsh]

First in mine is 1k ish atm, they gonna cry when I dump 4k into it lol

[west sedge]

Bc the Support beast is very weak?

[vagrant swallow]

No i havent test the different before and after the unlock

Thx

[restive ingot]

PACIFICRIMJOBDSL25

[thick plume]

what might

[west sedge]

Good luck, i guess 4K is not enough. My wife spent 5,4K and won but not with a huge difference

[tacit marsh]

Mine or theirs?

[thick plume]

theirs

[tacit marsh]

138m with 20m kills 😂

[thick plume]

they need those cores

[tacit marsh]

When I did chasey I did like 6k, if needed I'll do it again.

[thick plume]

I did 600 each lmao

[tacit marsh]

Evidently lol

[thick plume]

f kin wasted those files

[tacit marsh]

I wasted files on Stella...

[west sedge]

It’s worth, rubina is overpowered

[tacit marsh]

Haven't seen anything about her yet to be honest. I'm trying to not get sucked back into this game but it's not working out..

[west sedge]

Her skill dmg Explosion is not from this world

[thick plume]

stella op op

[west sedge]

And it’s Even stronger bc both new Rider Heroes have increased skill dmg

[tacit marsh]

Stella doodoo

[thick plume]

take chasey first hit so others can do dmg xd

[tacit marsh]

Leave my girl chasey alone 😡

[thick plume]

needs to be burned

[tacit marsh]

No!

[thick plume]

next infa hero chasey killer!

[tired rose]

No we already have chasey killer

[tacit marsh]

Shoulda been Stella...

[tired rose]

Her name is chasey

[tacit marsh]

Truth

[thick plume]

infa chasey killer

[native olive]

But he is no peaceful lol.
Anyway, no new Infantry hero in sight, for now.
Maybe towards June? But that's hard to say

[sage current]

Chasey leading infantry but on bikes.

[thick plume]

would be funny

[tacit marsh]

Only need a couple more superbs and chasey will have all superbs finally... trying to get the skill hone on these suck

[thick plume]

non-rider chasey rally still doing better than stella one

[tacit marsh]

Dill that one alliance is doodoo, you need to train em better

[sage current]

Nah. Dark Seal isn't around any more so it's not my problem

[tired rose]

I feel lile ethan louis only work if your lead are clearly stronger than enemy’s lead

[tacit marsh]

Lmfao i should send you the reports from azure trying to take our checkpoint 5 lol

[west sedge]

You are Right, I’m Not with such questions

[sage current]

Please do

[tacit marsh]

I... cannot believe the trash people use in this game..

[tired rose]

Peter rally?

[thick plume]

I wanna play in low fearless to experience that

[west sedge]

No chance😂 everywhere are whales now😂

[sage current]

They were in Elite

If we're talking about the same thing

[tacit marsh]

Yes...

[thick plume]

1 or 2 is fine, some will still be stupid enough to do it hahaha

[thick plume]

:OO

[tacit marsh]

Peter, Jaden, Tom, raig rallies...

Was absolutely mind blowing seeing that in elite...

[south ember]

In elite? They should rally me

[tacit marsh]

Yeah g24?

[vagrant island]

8 months ago when my ID was a baby t3 and we had a couple of dolphin spenders very low buy a pack or two a month “goldfish” spenders at t5 we faced t6 mm manipulating zoom squads all the time.

[west sedge]

Elite it’s just a name😂

[sage current]

Oh boy, these reports make me want to play in Elite.

[tired rose]

One of the lead using stella raigoro and it doing better than expect

[tacit marsh]

Right?!?!

[south ember]

I was g21 and they used proper rallies and garrison

[tacit marsh]

Ill send you the potato reports lmao

[sage current]

Seriously, I think even f2p me could hold a garrison with those kinds of rallies

[west sedge]

What is a dolphin spender?

[south ember]

I'd probably do stella garrison so they don't just give up immediately

[thorny sandal]

When you spend obscene amounts of money but it's just a speck of dust compared to the real whales

[tacit marsh]

My maxine could have held them off..

[thick plume]

mine was during 1st dark seal, arms still new. We fought 2 80ms, 2 100ms XDD

[vagrant island]

A low $$ spender. Might buy a pack or two a month in this case.

[west sedge]

I see😂

[sage current]

Have Ichigo send you the reports. They don't look like they give up regardless of what they're killing their troops against.

[tacit marsh]

Me when you spend like 18-22k but the real whales are 100k

[thick plume]

we fought an alliance in their region during IR and they lost so they were mad

[vagrant island]

Appears my interpretation of dolphin is way off the mark.

[west sedge]

Then im also one😂

[thick plume]

goldfish maybe

[native olive]

Such elitism
Slim, you have a contender here xD

[west sedge]

I think that fits more

[tacit marsh]

Sent death the reports, dill I sent you the defeat report, look at the troops inside the tower...

[south ember]

peter martin

They kept rallying after that?

[tacit marsh]

The defeat report hurts.. like 600k of non riders in the garrison while there were squads of riders sitting by the checkpoint not refilling lol

[south ember]

I checked the 1:9.8 one they even had a t6 in there and that weak t5 is leading

[vagrant island]

It would be nice if all these events were at scheduled times so people could plan around the rest of their life.

[tacit marsh]

The first batch of reports death are from azure, the second batch i just sent was from jade lol

[south ember]

Both legions are doing it? That's not even a low g

[vagrant island]

I used to call behavior like this “too much go go go” and not enough think.

[south ember]

We have gw for that just 1h per day

[tacit marsh]

Yup lmfao

[tacit marsh]

It's a lot of wtf match did I roll...

[south ember]

It looks like new player setups.
Jacob jaden....who even has jacob

[vagrant island]

Other games have on demand matching. That would be more interesting than “oh you missed the battle because the euro people you play with woke up early on Saturday…

[tacit marsh]

I have no idea.. I don't even have Jacob lol

[coarse kettle]

this game will be the main for me

[vagrant island]

Jacob is great for low stamina spending aoe zombie grinds.

[sage current]

I have Jacob. Not leveled up though, and it was an accident.

[tacit marsh]

I don't even have chun 😅

[south ember]

You run out of stamina? I have so many in bag

[tacit marsh]

Me too... I have so much i can't even use it all for tc, not enough zombie killing days xD

Man... and ANCs 300m player took 1st in splendid at 1.6k :/

[tired rose]

I never run out of stamina and it dont seem like i can even use all of them

[sage current]

I always ran out of stamina before I finished lookout tower and battle center. After that it's infinite stamina.

[tired rose]

And marco

[tired rose]

I was running low on it when im still new

[thick plume]

I can use 10k stams max then I get sick of killing zombies

[tired rose]

Then i discovered aoe zombie hunting

I think i can kill 80-90 zombies for 1.5k stamina

5 squads hunting so not slow either

[thick plume]

I can do like 300 blue cans in ar

[tacit marsh]

I use above 50k stam for zombies and I get bored, I even use 5× cards the whole time.

[tired rose]

Im think of just attack any zombie to burn stamina fast too but it just will like a waste when i know i can just aoe them for efficiency

[thick plume]

don't like looking for clumped ones

[tired rose]

It’s easy to drag them close with jacob

[thick plume]

I use jacob alone xd

but yeah, jacob very useful

[tired rose]

I make 5 squads and just big enough to kill them after all use rage skill once

Just need one of them to have lv28+

Can probably make smaller squad so i can go with just lv27 but then i will have to avoid 30 instead

The real pain is when the jacob’s squad become red and i had to run back to refresh

[simple ibex]

What gives more points in TC - 1 min of training speed on monday or 1 t6 squad on weds?

[native olive]

You can see in these images the points.
The advantage of training troops is that you don't have a cap

[south ember]

Training 1st day is best for points

And your last training should be with expansion and have it end right at start of training day

[native olive]

I'll use research speed instead. I still have months of researches to do.

[tranquil shale]

My T6 will open next year 😭

[native olive]

Probably mine too 🤣

[slim bluff]

Same

[frozen bobcat]

Hello, does someone know how many biochemical drawings does it take to upgrade "Combat Support V" in the Development Center ?
I couldn't find the information anywhere and the in-game bot didn't have it either... :/

[forest linden]

It’s 250 points per minute and I think it works out (even with buffs) about 160 points per t6. So it’s not only better to use Monday but better to use at weekend too

Also I think it’s about 267 days speed ups to get the 100M ceiling

[simple ibex]

Ok... I seeeeee very helpful thank you... 🤗 I got a little way to get to 100 mill so I will go that far and then stop

Ok so did some simple math - 3 mill points for 20k t6 . Just over 5 mill for 2 weeks of training with speeds ups

[simple ibex]

What is a csp?

[sage current]

A typo of "cap," I'm pretty sure.

[simple ibex]

Ahhhhh thank you 🤭

[native olive]

Dill guessed right. Fixed the original message 😅

[south ember]

Don't think anyone knows yet.
Support 4 was 1k so I'd guess at least 2k

I wouldn't really worry about that though. It needs the survival 3s capped and level 9 is 1k drawings and level 10 is 1.9k drawings so not getting that any time soon

[delicate pelican]

Salut tout Monde

C'est quoi le projet

[ancient crystal]

You spend over 20k a year on this game ?

[dusk ravine]

salut

[frank kestrel]

Pretty lucky, huh?

[desert fjord]

Am I wrong, or rangers are weakest class atm? Rubina and Darel are perfectly counter for Ethan and Sophie, while Stella and Bodala can kill anybody in 1 on 1 with same might. Even old Adut + Bodala are perfect team. While Ethan have only situational team mates (Julia have no AOE, Jacob is garrison only, other rangers lack of defensive skills)

[ancient crystal]

Infantry are the weakest based on the how IGG been treating them, not giving them TC often and completely focusing on range and riders who both recieved multiple new heros

And despite infantry being the weakest class i still managed to get almost 500K points in war meets war in AR and came 2nd in overall standings with minimum spending

[south ember]

No, ethan is still the best multi rally garrison

Sophie's very strong in field and one of the best rally leads

Jacob isn't really used. You have sophie, ethan, julia, bard, lynne and jack idk why you'd use jacob

[south ember]

What's minimal? Can we get a number

[ancient crystal]

$120/month

There are people who spend less and perform fine, but if you want to be "THE BEST" like high top 3-5 in every event

imagine being one of the very best at that low spend, now that is truly impressive

[sage current]

Slim why did you run away in EC 6 when I said hi?

[ancient crystal]

so for every $1 i spend someone else has to spend $10 to keep up due to my play style and efficiency

[south ember]

Just drop to bottom of fearless and you can do that

[ancient crystal]

oh i logged off i didnt mean to i dont know your name there

in EC i came on and i said we need to make the chat more spicy cause my main focus is chatting with girls on the game

[south ember]

It's only 1 letter off