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i am looking at my screen there is no speceial event or pop up event for me
I think this cross region thing is to stop regions from fixing the rewards too
How do you get newer every day?
You are definitely on drugs... as someone who pays, I'm over 100m points on this phase and I have a ton of arrows and other goodies left lol
where is the spend event
this is not true lmao
All Star?
where in all star
Please refrain from talking if you got no idea what you're talking about
The thing. The whole thing.
rewards for p2w are also higher, arrows were 10800 now they are 15000 points. Similarly armory gives a shitton of points, it's 30M for finishing it
READ the phases!! secret armory PAID on day 1. julia's magic cards PAID day 2. roulette day 3! arrows ALL FOUR DAYS
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm serious. I want to smoke whatever you are smoking 🚬
"strengthen workshop" is also paid!! just buy metal!
Me too
You really don't.
armory 30M sure if u do it fully but no one does that people only do the red boxes
arrows at 1000 arrows 15k each is what 15M max?
oh and other f2p rewards got lower, hone chips are basically half
You talk about outdoing any whale then say people only red boxes lmao. Do you know what a whale is
f2p players get DOUBLE the boosts now from 120 to 250 on saved speedups
I really do. See if I say stupid sh!t like that
Sir... I maxed it cause I was saving them for months...
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whales play armory all the time it's the most consistent source of superb armaments, are you high. And it's an extremely easy source of points for them
thats u, saving is a mistake to just compete it once because doing it every event just the red boxes is the opimum strat tho
Whales can use speedups too
they can but they dont save them like f2p do they spend as they please
Yeah definitely a mistake to save for guaranteed superbs
WHALES PEOPLE TOO
They can and they do. What makes you think they wouldn't?
f2p got a boost because of the 100% MORE speedup bonus how is that debatable its a fact tho
250 per minute instead of 150
No, if you spend some money saving up for the superb armaments is much better. Opening reds is for f2p/low spenders.
Slim moment
This applies for all players, including whales. What are you not understanding?
You also got a 100% boost to your stupidity
Ok imma sleep instead of reading messages from this room temp IQ guy 💀
nope, it is Doomsday: Metal Warriors 
Is trolling…
Boycott
Doomsday: Mental* Warriors
what are you talking about ?building and research first day gave 150 points per minutes ,4th days 1 training min gave 200 points ,where is now the training troops event day?
Way too persistent and consistent
Boycott fuckingg DOOMSDAY
they actually changed the game name in play store
It's all rng now. Pray your all-star bucket is full of inactives🤔
Purple/blue chips were 44800/3000 and now they are 38000/1500, they have been reduced by a similar amount that the speedups have been increased. p2w arrows have increased by the same proportion, AND they added more pay only events
that guy is talking a lot of non-sense
Current TC is more friendly to spenders, this is not debatable
Yes they did add that but the proportion of whales DIDNT go up so nothing changed for the whales
but the regular people got a BOOST you see what i mean
I'm trying to lose my eye sight tbh
Only top commander was the event in which we could get heroes just to save resources but for now it's not possible due to o cross region
WHALES STILL USE SPEEDUPS
EVERYONE got boosts, and the whales got more than f2p
they dont have research or construction
Quit playing doomsday
In the form of diamonds🤭
I would like to thank developer for making top commander impossible now bec now I have to compete with multiple Wales instead of the 2 in my region I will never be able to get tc heroes now unless I save a year of speed up awesome 🙂
And like Dill says whales get a shitton more speedups as well so it's a moot point
you are gonna get clowned quite hard ,dude whales receive as much as f2p accellerators ,what is your point ?
Side note, how many are f2p in here? And how many got whales in their ranking?
Professional is slim right?
if you save up a year and get the TC heroes you still wont beat the whales
somehow.. no..
I'm f2p
I'm f2p and among at least several whales.
Bs
I might get 10 shards
As?
I call bs
That's all I want least I could compete for low ranks now multiple Wales in with multiple regions
And I am a priest
age of empires mobile can't come sooner
In my ranking , one whale increased to 200 million just now
Call it whatever you want. I call it hard work
yeah, just 10 fragments, those aint dragonballs, they not gonna make the whales disappear
I got at least 1 new big whale buying out shops. 4.4k points in stele event vs 800 second place
Now 1st place in TC too
--- Rip Top Commander ---
2023 - 2024.
You will be missed.
Gone from our sight but not from our Hearts.
Step softly, a dream lies buried here.
Forever my wife, my love, my life.
I can't even get 10 now since they adding it cross region
Hello father
The top 10 are already over 50m points so ggs
well lets see if someone here actually sees the good side of TC
the good thing is you can stilll land in a low whale bracket by RNG
That sucks, honestly I was hoping they'd have had f2p or low spenders away from all the big boys
Normaly the 1st and thirds ridiculously ahead but all the ranks are way ahead now it Wales vrs Wales lol
they will revamp it again when the pets come 
pets?
good luck for that 👍
everybody forgot they're adding pets 
There's nothing good about this tc... other than I'm in first, but now everyone has to compete with other biggies.
Just change tc to Wales verse Wales that the entire tc now since cross region
We leave that to the proffessional with a double "ff" like you
Regular players don't even exist anymore
In theory, superheroes were good but always behind a paywall... And poorly implemented... The cross-region TC is a load of crap but hey, igg has always done what it wants.... And they don't give a damn about their community....
I have a high fiber diet and am quite regular.
I mean in top commander
I'm still in 4th just because I wanted to finish one research.... for now.
Biochemical Beast
aka pets
They will definitely take all my money if the release a hamster 🐹
i want.. like.. a snail or something
Free to play is officially dead in this game
My top 10 are over 50 mil and thier all climbing lol number 1 like 90m already
Hamtaro collaboration
I'm still here
I want a cyberchinchilla
Time2leave
We'll have to wait 2 months before they change their minds about the TC 😆 keep complaining in the meantime
biobeaver activate!!
What do people consider whales? Is a 90M player a whale ?
90m points in 2 hrs of tc starting yeah
im 120m guess im a whale
Whales are people that spend more money on this game than I make.
Whales are only strong players with a short time for myself... Or max players
Yep, they fckd ftp yet again. 2 accounts for sale…but worth nothing now 😁🫣🤣🤣
In tc not might
DannWho knows how long
Tennis
But what's that's person might, armament, workshop?
120m might isn't a wale
It's not about the might, it's about the spending.
Wales are rich players basically dropn bands on the game lol

Bands to make her
im rich
my insanity is rich from playing this game
The players who complain are often those who play all the events at 50% instead of keeping and playing 1 or 2 events in the month at 200%... 😅
Mini wale 5gs
I saved for three months. 99 million first day
30 m might can be a whale if he started an hour ago …. Might shouldn’t define whale
It doesn't wale just a rich player imo mights whatever tbh
300m or higher I'd say a wale in might
Is any one in region 174? Can you burn a player for me ?
If was sort of management to compete against a few Wales but cross region Wales tc is pretty much dead now lol
Manageable
Players can have 300M and can't be whales... If they have just army and no armements 🤣
no
I have f2p around 100m
Same
i wonder if training will still give the most points here
Newbie here ?
My definition of Wales personally is just players with alot of money it realy don't matter what might they are imo but some do define Wales as 300m plus might players
no, its just a set amount pers speedup now
Some tips
wales is just the UK version of alabama.
What about players who have a lot of money but don't spend it on the game?
uninstall
🏴 Didn't know the welsh were so wealthy
@slim bluff very well
If your not spending then your not a wale Wales spend basically lol
The Prince of Wales is worth over 1.3 billion
money can buy everything
1.3 billion and he cant afford an H for whale?
if theres certain events going on, you'd need to wait for roulettes otherwise
I think Wales was named before whales were named whales.
does that mean yes?
on a scale 1 to 10, 1 being very easy, how hardly possible is it?
anyone knows where the "Wasteland Store" is located anymore?
Could you define a proper amount of points to define a whale competing or not? In mine the top right now has almost 40 million, but doesn't seem a whale (for now)
I'd say probably close to 100m+
Does anyone know how much points did training speed up give before?
damnn its 250 now
10 if f2p, 1 if you're willing to spend enough
hmmm... and how much is "spend enough".
what is the scale with the budget of 30$, and with a budget of 50$ tops!?
Probably, the epic and common get you close to 30
Do you buy every pack in the mall on Mondays? That's whale type of stuff
between the police station search and 1st tc you should be high 20s
Do you spend 20k per month. Did you invest over 200k in this game ?
So maybe 20-30 on daily boost
and how much are the legendaries? is it 5$ per one, like in other games?
if you're lucky, you need 10 to recruit but you might not get that many
Wow ...top commander started and first place was 40 million within an hour. Top heroes are gonna be really hard to get now.
A dirty game that made the events classification on a regional level and thus made players spend a lot of money
I face the same guy in every Supreme Leader event and he always gets 1st place.
Basically looking f2p is a thing of the past.
Not true - why don't they make the whales face each other they will harvest more and more
Looks like back to console gaming for me....
It's so frustrating that a company can be blinded by greed so much. It feels like they're trying their best to make me lose motivation. I'm not against spending a bit money from time to time. But it seems the main content of this "game" is becoming spending and gambling.
Yes, I prefer that to wasting money on a game that has no balance.
If I want to gamble I'll go to the casino or buy some lotto tickets. But I like to game...but there's got to be a sense of you can compete. This is out of control.
True, I agree with you
All they care about is who pays, so let them make a division between who pays and who doesn't.
Yes. Early indications are that TC is not an event for the common folk anymore. Just over 2 hours after the event has started and i can already see there is zero chance to obtain any form of hero. there are +100m points already on the leaderboard.
Imagine what the points will be by the end.
it's true ,same for my leaderboard
sigh....
I asked people in the region and most of them is the same
imagine what infantry will look like if they don't roll this back by the time it comes around
Did they honestly think this was a good idea?
Their give-us-money department did.
I'm scared to think about it.
Just shovel that money over to us and within a week we will make that hero obsolete....
But how long do you think it will take to roll it back? 6 months? By that time the damage will be done.
This new changes suck, eventually the small spender leave this game. You should think about it. This game use t be funny but now I don't think so
This is sh... T
I usually spend a few bucks on the game....but there's no use in it now. Would be like fighting a tank with a sling shot.
I just looked at mine....same here. Smdh.
yep.. That's the feedback coming in from the regions. These top spots also include big players farm accounts so sums up what is occurring. Surly it is not a surprise to the Devs, rather a success for their plan.
Ehh when are we getting infantry superhero?
What you "if" this is hear to stay
Gambling you can atleast win sometimes
When would you open training buff and research buff now ? Today 250 pts per min used tomorrow a certain amount of points for training a certain amounts of troops . Didn’t saw how many points for how many troops
Tried to make a suggestion...that's not working
They just want money. The predatory game design is way too blatant
Depends how many members are still doing research but I would still open research today and training tomorrow
Yeah I think I'm done
😖 I’m the only one not using research so I guess I’ll do like you said .
😂 tell them to whale up
🤣🤣🤣🤣 right !
Has any one asked in their alliance how TC ranking is like? Most of my players are saying that the top spots are currently held by accounts with 20M to 50M might
Sell your house to get top spot in top commander...
It seem like you really don't need to worry about the whales (only when there are new heros) but those farm accounts
Try 100 million might
only other farms so far on my farm account
Right now rank 1 is a 38m might
mostly t4 and t5 in ranking on my main, they're still low points tho

Usually whale wake up at training phase
Do you want to start a group where we migrate and burn these people? Will unify ROK, HNB, APEX, BOON, SSI. All for the good of the people 😂
Sounds like a wonderful idea 🤭
Speed up points are universal now. So they could start training now
I think this is training phase, tomorrow seems more like the day after in old tc.
I think train t5 today and upgrade tomorrow
Only problems I can't see tomorrows training points, just assuming its the same as before
Just whale up and use Julia cards tomorrow
But if I don’t want to be called a dictator today will be research phase since am the only one on my region not using research . Am I screw ? 🤦♂️
Just do research then? 10% fed buff isn't that big anyway
Either way you kinda are. No one voted for you😂
Hey I could argue that , I took region 11 on my own and they followed me …
why did you?
Just taking a 2nd metro buff after deathlock left?
Coz I was in Chinese region and am Europe , I was tired of Chinese timing agenda
Exact i ask him and he give me the key
Any idea how the algorithm for matching players in TC works? Is it based on specific criteria, or is it purely random?
Its the way igg thinks it can extract maximum
Anyways i dont like tc heroes , they sre garrison ones
I will stick to awakening roulette ones ,like adut miyamoto they are still beast and always relevant
probably random
Oh, okay. So it’s either you pay or you pray
Even saving up now won’t guarantee anything.
Its bit 50-50
My 22m farm got 110m rank1 in tc never spent penny there atm
While the majn has 50m as rank1
Did they removed training speedups?
Its all speeds
Healing is back too
Wish there was genesis going
I wouldn't mind being spanked by whales if i get tc points for it
They purposefully removed genesis i guess
Say less
No need to migrate 🥲
Can't. I have like 360M oil😂
Whales dont care
America is about to send some freedom my way
Wait a minute you have what
Sadly I'm not
360M oil
Rich 🤧🤧
Also are there no chassey frags now for ranks ?
Is chassey frags now for great hunter only
I only have that much after good looting
End of tc same as before
The devs finally succeeded in destroying top commander by offering their mom’s boooty holez as rewards
Mi lfs are cool
I disown them, I don’t wanna be their daddy no more
I note that the developers in their haste to switch over the TC format have neglected (yeah i said neglected) to incorporate the points balancing aspect for newer players for the daily Tiers (Phase Targets) now. The had balancing in the old TC to make allowances for the newer players who had not unlocked particular aspects of that days challenges. Phase targets are the same for players who for example do not have a LVL 24 shelter and as such cannot do the Secret Armory, Hone or track Armaments portion of todays TC. The final Tier target is still 3,300,000 for all now.
DLS devs mamas be layin on streets, filling their homes with everything they find
Still failing to understand why they had to offer their moms by making it a multi regional event and introducing so many gold digging schemes
I know it’s hard to understand hoes, but I’d want an explanation anyways
This could be an oversite however seems less likely based on the track record of "tweaking" events to appease the few.
Many things about tc needed fix but people are mad because they highly raised p2w components in this tc update
Julia cards , arms are whales fav
yep.. these were raised as soon as event was launched at reset today. Every phase has a Pay component now.
just play for minimum points and get all the phase rewards, game telling you not everyone needs a chasey, just go play felix
So are we not all enjoying the Top Paying Commander event then?
im dumb or we dont get frags anymore from tc?
For overall ranking check
i just see core frags for first event and hero frags on hunter event, but on tc only points for tc
Does having a helicopter have any inherent benifit compared to the normal cars in vehicle ? Or is it just cool ?
Ohhhh wait thanks to dev removing the frags from tc and reminding me ...dooms at this point is just a money grab
It's good if you are rider you can set the bonus in the top right in the garage
Better chose the tank in the roulette if your are infantry and want spend the price will be the same around 400usd
Avoid refrain from such comments in public forums 😇
Its bit cruel to go their families 😅
Better chose a bike irl
TC is Ruined.. only spenders can play this game now.. RIP to all
Tc dead .. it s only for cash players
Igg has officially killed dls with this new top commander
nope i dont wish to spend anymore on this game
No cause the tank is just rng it has a % chance to get it, you can get it on a 1st roll of 500th roll there is no set value on the tank
like I really would like to do something in game that wouldn't cost me 100s of dollars please
Spending 30 hone chips for 630k bonus points in TC is worth?
Any region that have regional Research buff activated?
Any region have activated research federation buff?
Before you got 1 fragment per day when finish rank, thats gone too now 🐵
Totally fked up TC... I was saving months for win... Everything is gone, the good game is gone. I play 2 years.. From today i will spend nothing anymore... NOTHING. I will better lose every troops then giving devs something. They only taking from us. We giving them so many and they doing NOTHING FOR US. I dont understand why people still supporting them.
If they wanted to find a new way to make even more players quit their game, good job, you did it with this new tc 👏
Agréé
When will Jupiter King march skin is going to be released ??
Thanks Igg for killing your own game,from mow on you will keep only wales keep spending like crazy to get all crap you gave them, for me it's the end of spending money here .maybe I'll keep playing litle more ti see wales fighting. Still have some shields to use in next events.
"IGG Help.. whales are invading our region and taking over TC and we can't compete, please do something about it"
"Sure no problem, now they can do it from the comfort of their own region"

When will Jupiter King march skin is going to be released ??
Wtf 1000 arrows to get a reward
Mines 100m+
Igg's greed is too much
180m for me
Guys I lost my discord account and igg s bind to it, I tried bind to this one but says "the account is linked to another discord account", does anyone know what I can do!?
this is a sign to uninstall this game
For TC it says 12k per 1 armory card. So open 1 box is 120k points?
Can't test it atm
you dont get frags from TC phases anymore?
You get, more than before
250 max
no i mean phase wise, they used to have 1 legendary frag per day if you got max points
Oh I see
also this mostly is the case, cause they only specified 1 card being 12k points. So 10 cards is 120k
But can you test it? I run out of boxes i want to open
Nope
im saving my gems for roulette or brandy sorry, i chucked a shitload of gems in secret armory in the past and got horrendous rewards
That's okay. Just searching for a person that checks this for me😄
What was added to the game in the new update? Can you send me a screenshot?
Dear developers, please tell me, why was it necessary to make the event Main Commander interregional? Everything in the game is already tailored for donations, and now this. Since this morning, farm accounts from the 500th regions have been in the Main Commander rating. They would have taken first place anyway, but in their region, and now they are simply interfering with other players in other regions. With all these innovations, every day there is a loss of desire not only to spend money on the game, but also to enter it at all
I will quit this game forever if DLS dont bring back OLD TC
It's funny, the whales cry and criticize igg about the participation of agricultural accounts and therefore it costs them a lot to maintain the competition. And moreover small players also cry and criticize igg on the fact that they cannot compete with whales in the top commander 😅
People like to cry.
do region buffs and server buffs add up? because if they do, the calculations are wrong!
Negativity always louder. So after every patch you usually always see mostly negative things to say from people.
Those that are happy usually dont talk so much about it. 🤣
Out of all the shittty changes, the new TC is just beyond greedy. It is basicly eliminating everyone, who saved for months in favor of big spenders. Regular players are out of the competition. Really crappy move.
yes i would say the same with more pay factor. still greedy will kill you
good luck for IGG
We removed kill event from top commander because it was uneven for players so we add pts from every p2w event so it is more even 🥹
the publisher of this game must be smoking a ton of crack when making decisions. Boycott this game and stop spending!!!
only revenue drop will make them change anything
True , I'm more relieved i won't have to compete against my own alliance members and steal heroes from each other , also most of the whales already have the TC heroes and competing against 2 or 3 isn't that big of a deal now.
because you are happy to pay fortunes for events. We would like to be able to compete while having fun and that is no longer the case
I have never seen a game with more unbalanced time than this one.
it's a total lack of respect for the player
This tc is bs
I’m convinced those supporting this tc are riders, And i mean different kind of riders
Keep spending on IGG so the devs make enough money to stop their illegitimate businesses
So many farm accs ranking high lmao
Rare opinion : I prefer new TC
10 hero frags at rank 30, rank 30 is chilling at 8m points at the moment
Watch your languange please
Try again without using swear words
i prefer 1 universal frag for completing daily tiers than 5 frags of TC hero at the end vs 2 I used to get before ...
Again, watch your language. 1st warning
before i could have spend universals from raider TC dailies into my main infantry
we prefer old TC cause it used to be to region locked
Why would I be happy about that ?
this one is just a bunch of bs
I can understand that, that is actually one of the reasons i prefer new TC now
nah thats a reason to not like it
Your region??
Not everyone is whales
Rather only some players are whales....most of them are normal peoplw
no fun allowed
is that word "fun" a new word that was just made? never heard of it before
All my accounts have a more friendly TC. As of now I dont see any whales except for a few low spenders
1st place in my group has 180m already
I have 220m as f2p
you are stuffed with money with the purchase of the packs but you continue to make events where only the big purses can win.. you go straight to the death of this game by continuing in this direction
Many f2p saved a lot and use it rn.
so we have to save for a year to win a few frags
Bom dia!! Vamos tomar café ☕☕
My 50m farm account did 150m after saving for couple months too and its just a farm 👀
No?
Even with 7.3 M points i am at 80th position
You guys talk about top tc place
Saving one cycle is enough to get 170-180m 😅
You now get more fragments in lower range too
Competing against the entire game
Yeah a whole 1 frag extra
If i hoard my stuff for 1 year and reach 1b points on one TC
Does that mean im a whale?
C’mon DLS dev, login with your real Id plz
Old tc was 10 frags at rank 15, now you get 10 frags at rank 30
how much bigger is that pool we are competing against?
Old tc was 10 frags at rank 15, now you get 10 frags at rank 30 with cross region competition*
10 frags at rank 15 in your own region
Now you get 10 frags at rank 30 across multiple regions
rank 30 where every single region is in the tc? yea sure
Can you suffer that much tho?
No?
What kinda senseless arguments are these
You get a lot more on same ranked as before
hey let's only count the numerator while ignoring the denominator
As for now rank 30 has less points than rank 15 used to have on day one
For my TC at least
Having 30 purple hone chips. Spending in TC is better or i wait for honing event
simple logic doesn't exist in here
perhaps for older players in more established regions
All my accounts the points on the TCs are less than on my old TC.
How many regions are competing??
And they are different regions
Its not regions
Wait
Still bro...in old TC we knew the players of the region very well...but in new TC every time the matching would change...and it will difficult to accomodate with it
Mine’s top 1 has 220m points uhmmm
You guys need to learn to read 🤣
Its not how many, its how many people
Not regions are matched. Players are matched.
Your chances of getting 10 frags at rank 15 is much higher in old TC, then your chances of getting rank 30 in this format
Yeah that too unknown people
still didn't get an answer of the pool size
brother its people from different regions thats the problem
Nope. Thats a subjective statement from you.
All my accounts have it easier rn than ever before
old tc was just people from your region
Yes
How? Top 15 used to be 50m minimum while top 30 is just 10-15m😭😭
how hard is it to understand
pointing to rank means nothing if ignoring number of ppl you're competing against
Exactly, so ?
The problem is that it has matched with newer regions...
mods must be the devs lol
How did you end up with 10-15m?
so you tell me its the same thing as if you were put in tc from people with ROK?
Well all you guys complain about you dont even know.
How many are matched ?
Hence it becomes more difficult
what are you on?
How much do you spend each event?
0
So many new spenders. Lol
For 30th rank 1st is 150m
All my farm accounts have it easier which is subjective
Thats just phase 1
Even on my main i havent spend in months🤣
still no response to number we are competing against
Because as of now nobody knows lol
yeah
but you point to rank and state it that it's better like it's fact
ignoring any changes to the number we compete against
Either you’re a dev, or a hacker, or you have private videos of some dev that you blackmail to get extra speedups n better rankings
Cuz there’s no way!!
Even spenders are crying at this format!!
Yes but it includes all speed ups 😅
Just imagine if you had 7.2 M points on first day at what position would you be ranked??
it's flawed justification that it's better
Yes, thats the point.
Spenders are crying because they match other spenders and cant get wasy TC in regions anymore.
With just 666k Vehicles might you can get 100m points in phase 4
Top 5
Rank30 is tbh easy no matter where
Yeah and rank 30 wouldnt allow you to unlock the hero before either
Exactly, but in new TC i am ranked 80
can you just tell the devs to limit the competition to 30 ppl and we good, k?
Aserias is the only one who knows how to play the game… I’ve been playing for over 2 years and apparently I don’t know enough
then you can boast rank 30 all you want
You are the one who started with rank 30 👀
Half the people complaining about whales in their TC who send me their screenshots have f2p at rank 1 who saved a lot 🤣🤣
Inside news - Aserias is DEV
i pointed out your flawed argument and you keep digging that same hole
Knowing igg
The next time they change TC
It will be the entire 10milion playerbase in a single TC
now you're just deflecting
There was no flaw and you didnt point anything out.
Nothing I said was factually wrong

Rank 1 gets an uninstall button
😛
you argued it was better but completedly ignored the added competition
Read what I said again.
rank 30 means nothing
Learn to read then talk.
Busted 🙂
I would rob multiple banks for that
keep deflecting
I said all my accounts have it easier than before.
Its enough tbh saving anything more is not worth it
so you must be right
I never save for tc despite being low medium spender it hinders growth to the next level
mods can't be wrong
How to get ban from this game ig i’m bit addicted to this
that's consistent lol
Name a single thing or link me any of my messages that was wrong.
You cant.
how to trigger the TC bonus tasks?
I know he is, he’s just trying to play smarty pants thinking he can fool everyone with his flawed arguments… none of which makes sense!
it's ok to be wrong
Good that I wasn't
Kill zombies
don't have to be so sensitive about it
Anything I have send was a factually cortect statement.
Speedies
Now stop with personal attacks or link me a message where I said something wrong.
what's personal
Anything Below Rank 2(new TC) in absolutely useless....
i said mods can't be wrong
Is*
You said I easy wrong and cant name anything.
I am waiting
You are deflecting.
If i said something wrong. Link it and prove it.
3am Discord is Spicy 🍿
Yeah 🤣
i said pointing to rank 30 in current TC being better now than rank 15 before is a flawed argument
without knowing the increased number of ppl in the competition
When did I say that. Dont make things up.
Again couldnt link anything I said that was wrong.
lol ok
F2p players saving lottt instead growing fast gettng max rewards each event always surpises me, even after getting rank1 200 frags of their favorite they aint becoming rally seige garrison leads of their alliance
Better to max out war meets war everytime each week
Yeah totally agree on that
I gotta wake up in a few hours for work, but my goodness, the passion in here from all sides is better than anything Netflix has put out in years 🤣 I love it. (I'm not bashing anyone)
Now people have reduced my dls merit supply 🤧🤧
Rank 3 getting 130 frags is useles
How to keep working on that gold augmenter
I said that here https://discordapp.com/channels/907212172554289152/907212173288288281/1283706171055800342, with the words "As for now" and "for my tc at least"
Yeah bro you would be able to max out 1 skill and upgrade 2nd skill to lvl 3 max
For 3 frags, i should play 2 TC. Lol
You can save and still max out war meets war 😅
Many dont
DeathStryker cant read..
We literally say our own experience currently and he argues in general statements nobody said. 😢
Then cant provide any proof.
20-30m players scoring 150m -180m score being f2p is the real motivation for many medium spenders to do extra swipe swipe at the gold mall today 🤧
No one read, except me
In last TC i saved a lot and came rank 1 with 160M points in a 7 days of old TC, but this time it is already 142M in 8 hours
This TC should give devs’ mamas as rewards… we don’t need frags when we can be m0f0 to fagz
TLDR: IGG Needs to put out that Feedback Survey ASAP and we'll see how they respond 
My old server score 400m for rank1 so i am probably happy 😅
Because research and training are on the same day
People will moan ofcourse as they should they added many new p2w components
Most of my accounts ( all f2p ) have 20-50m rank 1.
So personally its better
Look I'm just here for the free gems that come with the survey lol.
I got 300 gems. More surveys pls
Rating bags was giving 300gems too 😂
But still....i expect first player to score atleast 300M points by the end of this TC
I got 500 gem for linking my acc today I'm happy
That one i didn't understand. Y bag rating lol. Wtf
Does your Server have whale allaince??
🥲
300m is normal score for TC
Old server was too crowded ,300m for rank3 i score humble 220m for rank4
Im the only one that got anxiety and depression from today?
Then i think i am on a correct server

That's my secret Capt. I always have anxiety and depression.
After seeing no.1 tc rank, i got depressed
Rank 4 used to give 40 frag i suppose...again that not of much use..
Depends. A lot of regions have even below 100m rank 1
Many players are mad because they didn't like the sudden change with TC, The same happened with AoD look at it now everyone loves new AOD
It was surprise to me too going from dead region cause leadership suked everyone out ,having tc rank15 just from completing phases😅
For what i could get rank1 on my 2 back server gave me rank15 exactly on my last server 😅
Yeah thats correct.....not all servers would have 300M points
First complain before understanding.
Discord rule.
Some critics are true and make sense, but a lot of whats said here is either wrong or madeup which is wrong too. 👀
It definitely fluctuates on interest of hero. First hero release; easy 300mil+. Then after a few rotations, dips down into low 100-150. I'm sure this event will even out. Hard to blame players blowing their bags when a brand new feature comes out this TC w/ the Chasey weapon Cores.
Chasey needs to be nerfed
You think i like being tossed around in arena by 40-60m players as 33m might?
exactly - ia have not even looked at those bags - random answer to complete asap and get those 300 gems
But going into TC without having enough items to score 170-180M isn't a smart move as f2p
Ssshhhhh that's what we all do 😂
Why are you in monarch 🤣
Idk, where should i be?
If I've learned anything from this game and that cross region competition. If you want something that others are competing for. Wait til its been around a while if you don't want to pull out a 2nd mortgage to get it 😅
I doubt this...because everytime the matching of regions would change...
Even doing tc doesnt make sense as f2p you cant have those zexy 7m-6-5m heroes 😅
Go to ruler easy rewards
1m chasssey doesnt scare me
Cant stay in ruler forever
Its 7m chassey with energy cores that makes me sh1t my pants
arena is another beast - i score top10 in ruler, advance to monarch for next week ... then end up at 150 and get demoted back
I climb to second highest then they kick me ouy next week i climb again its series🥲
As does your matchmaking in spending your Arrows, Ammo, or Hammers for those Cross Region Competitions. As was competing for March Skin Vouchers before they were tied into that system. The idea has always been around in this game for cross region competition.
Fun
Matching is little cough cough ,my farm with no spending except visa going with me gets 150 rank1 while i spending 50$-100$ gets easier matching comparatively with lsst I checked score was 82m odd
Ohh wait i forgot
This game doesn't have fun
Adding secret armory on day 1 is day light robbery of points from normal people
Ranking for chasey not giving points in TC is great 
Game is getting crowded😅
Too much too doo
If i didnt had life , its perfect game to spend 12-15hours a day easily 😂
Aren't you supposed to have fun when playing games
Why does it feel like im being tortured while playing this?
You get trauma instead
Blame thunder
Justice for thunder
Julia has entered the chat
Yeah, just too much
Now people kinda miss 10 blue prints plus ones from chest each week and those arms and dls merits each week event was giving 😅
But AOD is ranked by unit strength and different leagues and there are still "core items" available to all players. And in the new TC system I see you being thrown with random people who might be donators or hoarders and you might get lucky and get grouped when you don't need it (if you are focused on one troop type and want a specific hero).
She gave thunder mommy issues after her release 😭
Chasey's Knockers has joined the Xbox Live Party Chat
Julia is there since long 😅
Chassey with her whip got her soughted
For all i see pairing for TC has been optimal
That is, to get the heroes you need, you either need to wait until the excitement dies down (which is impossible because the developers are adding new heroes).
Next infantry hero will be counter for chasey with some absurd superweapon that shitts on riders
God please let it be true.
Said by a true infantry main
You can't expect to have everything when you're a F2P and also if you're not competing in G1-G5 getting the newest hero to date isn't necessary
Both my accounts are ranked around 50 or 60....this is insane.
Z about to drop his entire life saving on that hero
i have 1m t5 infnatry , 600k all rest troops inclduing cars
Ratio is too skewed even as infnatry main that i now need new infnatry tc hero killing chassey or chassey nerfed🥲
Caught my ass 
The super weapon will allow him to teleport across the entire map or increase the number of troops in the garrison by 100000%
Twice. I need the weapon cores too.
How do you keep up with having 1m troop 🤣 I get there next event boom back to 900k
Oh god you'll fund the Christmas for igg alone 🤣
I spent portion of dls merits ofocurse
I have to train baby train
You said my life savings. I didn't say how much. They getting $5.73 and some belly lint for the new hero and cores from me.
Thats still $5.73 more than me 👀
Whale alert
I believe you meant Eddie/Bianca.
I don't mean getting new heroes, I mean getting old heroes, because the TC rating is the same for all heroes.
Call me Hansz Jr...Jr...Jr...Jr...Twice removed...Jr...Jr
Thats true. If new hero comes out, any hero in that type is harder to get
Which will only intensify the more heroes are out.
Skipping the 1st TC for that troop type worked most of the time for me
Lower basic attacks by 400%
I'm deeply offended as a rider main
Why not though? A change of Meta or "Norm" is healthy for any game.
My precious can do anything
They can garrison too now ,itts unfair, they can go farm killing , do bounty with ease
If you can't beat them you join them
Whats the point of staying crawling infantry main anyways
Because it's still the best for multi rally garrison? Unless you've whaled out and have a Leader Garrison set running Victor.
Better to get glass canons with no legs 
Riders made me bonkers they run asap i start getting good trades 🥲
And i can event catch them
Why can't i send gif
Chasey rankings being soo low on my main definitely changing my mind towards riders 🤣
Spend more.
Ok 😭
Teehee, jk jk (Don't ban me @mystic scaffold
Yeah discord isnt monetized yet , lets do it make it happen 😂
Around 300k members even if they manage to extract 1$ from 100m people its loooot of money
My clanmates and I have people in first place with 100-150m points. 9 hours have passed since the start of TC
I anyways never got rank1 earlier nor i will get now so its doesnt affect me , i care about phase rewards being less
Also without 5m arms i aint getting to rally even safer defense station 😂
I killed hive with level 10 stan as lead though
Did you got cores bro ?
I got 1 for 1k points
Whale
I have 250 cores can u tell me how much need for max ?
I got 1 for 600
How would i know
How lucky . I was 1 for 600 till final hour than someone push 800
706 was my top on that but I don;t play with riders so I got 0 points
Will wait for bard...
Oh ya cores we recieve on monday
That's why you should be the one aiming for the last minute
I was about to do 1 points difference with the top guy
Yes i did 1k on last 30
Mins than sleep
great hunter wont get any reward unless 1000 arrows spent ... you can be top1 with 800 ... and will get nothing
But i miss clicks extra 2-3
Bleh
Do last minute
Last last 0:30 second
That like that from the very starting of game
yup
Bro reset is 8 am for me
Screw sleeping
there is no point in spending arrows / hammers / bullets unless you have at least 1k of them
I always pass out 1-2 hour ago reset
That's what i fear for this new stele event
I seen your intro note to self - sleep
It will soon become like that
Thats why i took it on first round because soon everyone know about it and push wth lot money
haha i wake up at 6:55 to prepare my dautghter to school ... reset is at 2AM for me so its even worse than you
Its not even about money
Think about how much people is playing the game
Time to marry and get daughter
Now each one will be stacking their items until 2-3k +
Not even about whaling
Its impossible to win when people just saved up for a year of item
Aserias have 6 years speedup
its either save for a year or whale out
Then they take turns doing it, when will you ever be on top?
guess who has it easier?
might get lucky
Dont snitch to everyone
METALLEDGEND2024
I want to be you
🐳
In like very low chance of getting matchmaking
Master teach me
I am thinking about doing 300m first day to make people hesitate and then a tiny bit next day.
Do it when you match safeme
😂 make him spend more
Yeah and then he spends just enough to top me and all for nothing 😭
You mod think about how to make igg earn
i used like a year of speedups on last infantry TC (started at tower 24 ... ended up with lab25 and 8-10 + 8-9 on trinagle before t6)
800m
Your speedups
If IGG actually listened to mods we would be 1b might
🫣
Yeah i know 2 whales who did 1b tc points even tho 2nd place was 400 or something
If they want they top me too
So i got to safe longer haha
Yes
You get 120k from opening 1 box
would be funny to get just a bit over 1b last minute so all those spendings goes to 2nd place
thank you for confirming this ☺️
so 30m is you open the full 250
Cant you do more than 250?
When I used to spend i hit 250 and still could pull more
Same as bloody brandy, you can continue even after reward streak is done
Do as much as those packs give you pulls
I would not go above 250 though lol
Me neither thats why I stoped
I mean it takes me ages to collect 250 anyway
I only get the 7k gems and the 99 gold ones
Yeah I have only done the gem ones for half a year now too
Not gonna spend anymore. Spending used to feel good, now there are so many layers, Spending 100 means nothing
devices are the biggest bonus I guess still
true
now the chests in apex means there are things only those in the top alliences can have
I hoped that because i was one of the earliest players that if I just collect all purple skin shelters i will max out the bonuse limit from skins and dont need legendary stuff, but just more stats are added which dont do anything.
The epic skin from the event is nice..... BUT puzzle peices is whale land
Power gain fell and money needed to spend to maintain your rank rose.
😦
Tbh when you look at the fact that all speedups are combined for 1st day it doesn't sound soo bad like ppl including me making for someone score 80-100m for 1st in their bracket
Also points have increased 250 for 1 min i still hate this tc though
is there anyway to access the grand revival and ammo event store now ?
Training troops is the 2nd day so you can speedup to 1 day left on 22k per troop time
via arrows I think
hmmm or not
I was about to buy 50k expansion for tomorrow troops but can't find anywhere
Cant
so healing speedups work day one?
Yup
let's applaud IGG loudly for the new TC.🤢🤮🤮🤮 what a shame of them. When the small payers have disappeared, will they fight each other?
It is not that bad as it seems. the schedule fits much better with antpede and pompeii and you have more things you can stock up in your inventory.
and on top, you can get the hero with up to rank 30
My 3m might account is matched with other 3m might players.
Subjectivly I have it better than before
I have 19m less than million kill in my rank
And also 120m with helicopter and double kill of might

Grazie per aver rovinato il gioco e soprattutto il TC, già facevo fatica prima adesso gli eroi li prendo con il tram...
And im the 50m peep
Dont understand that line
🫣
19m might account with basically no kill
Ahh
I thought they match you with nearby regions of same number. Like 500 to 550 regions.
But my main has regions from 4 to 400 in there
So that cant be it either
Definitely not near region either
I got someone from 500+ region and also someone from region 2

It’s mess rn unless you got lucky with mostly inactive player in ranking then good for you
they are just killing the game. stop paying for a while has always been the way to get them to go back or change the way they do things
Yeah. Money makes people listen, sadly the f2p who complain the most have the least money
So they cant change anything

Bruuuuuuuuuuuh
Thats hurtful to f2ps like me
🤣
They only listening to the whales....and they don't want the average player to even come close to them. Well they got what they wanted...no middle ground. This game will fail over greed.
Does any one have a whale battle in their TC? Because all I see is small (Maybe farm accounts) in mine 😂
Instead of the upper echelon trying to help the lower tiers they want to be able to burn them even more. We got a motherhood of brother fukkers...
They're too busy reaping all the rewards....
what can an average player do with 1111 chasey other than assisting more deaths for your alliance?
How to get to secret whale chat with developers?
There is no such thing....but money talks and there's more than way for the devs to reach giant players
None in mine
Mine have 400m guy 🙂
Show ss
U gotta be kidding me? Carrying the devs water?
Sorry i'm lying
All they need are player who play in g1-5 to keep their bank numbers

I knew it . Kindly show me 100m guy in your 25m farm account ranking
Their goal is probably reduce server cost by making f2p quit and merge region to like 5 region later 
I'll show u 100m later 👀 im working now can't open game
@wind yew ey friend hello
Finally someone said it
Mods forward and complain about the vast increase in p2w everyday to admins, but they cant do anything either. Different department does decisions and they only listen to numbers their see in bank account. 😭
Until the ones that spend stop spending and IGG start seeing numbers go down.. They will keep doing what they do.. This game isn’t going anywhere.. Same thing happen in SOS and ROK.. Those games are still going
Yeah.
I have played many games like dooms. People always complain about p2w and say its dying.
Whales still pay and nothing changes
Just this Metal event alone.. Seen so many people get the tank.. Doesn’t look like this game is slowing down
Yes lol
Every event I see people spending like crazy
And people say this game is dying
Doomsayers will always be there. Pun intended
it's true, we all expect to see it but it never happens. The game is also developed for the whales, they are still the main donors. 🙂
these events suck balls once you've finished with all construction and research
especially with no pvp aspect to them
Because those people that spend are completely dumb
No insults towards a player group
If someone wants to spend they can
If you think its a waste of money. Thats fine too.
Train troops bro
that inflates power without real combat value increase
ok you can send 3 more squads vs this whale and have 'fun' for additional 10s ...
Too much might inflation already everywhere
100m beat 200m easily
el nuevo tc solo sirve para putas ballenas
If you don't like it, don't read it.
true, but without clear knowledge of matchmaking algorithm - power seems like main factor ... as meaningless of a stat it is now
Timed Out for 1h.
Insulting others and no remorse
Your other comments with insults got auto deleted too.
If you continue it will be longer.
Especially dont try to rephrase your direct insults so it gets past bot.
Means you know it's wrong.
Thanks for the toxic DMs.
Muted for 7 days.
Continue and ban.
🤣
In TC no1 already got 200m points. That too first day. Some Apex girl.
Is all future TC this new format?
Unless they change their minds, yes
Jesus
Hey all just asking is the mad racer z4 rewards permanent or limited for this event only?
It runs until the 16th.
We've had this event once before so far and weren't sure if it would return...it did, but when it'll next return after this, who knows..
Ah so it’s limited. The price is the same as the previous or it’s cheaper?
Seems the same
That’s crazy
not crazy, I saved for rider TC for months and I have 360 days in research and universal and 150d in training. I will have more than 200m in day one, with all the other stuff like tracker
and don't forget, this TC you get 250 points per minute for research, old TC was 150 per minute (that's an increase of 66%)
There is no way im losing over these farm accounts
I used 200days of speeds already..
But each day has a buy event. Which whales will win all the time. This is getting ridiculous. How are smaller non spenders suppose to go anywhere? They will just leave and people will hate the game. I have seen it happen before.
Hello guys my name is Nhấn vào một đoạn để dán vào hộp văn bản.
I will see at the end, if someone can beat 250m from day one with money. and I have saved for other phases too
Does anyone know if u migrated u will be unable to get tc ranking too?
Not sure, my farm I moved on Monday and I got no restrictions for stele
i think no restriction, you can check the event rules in the immigration rules
Regions have become obsolete.
That is the truth. Only thing about regions now is that you sit in one.
They're the antpede zone now.
This will be fun if 300 whales play together and no more average spenders
At that point they will get tired of the game and leave also. I won’t lie I spend money on the game. Not to that extent. I also have a lot of new players in my alliance who are already becoming frustrated with the game.
Just the last moment business how much extra they can earn from it and that's why they are opening new avenues to get the maximum before the game dies.
There is no way im losing over these farm accs.. i cant accept 😭
And the IGG moneygrabbing continues. New update 0.1/5
It is not business to extract money like this, but greed.
Corporate business is greed.
Aserias smells bad
Ban me from playing this game
Are you a spender ?
I've only bought Catherine and few arrows and one time t2 🙂
So ig no
Dev of DLS:
❌ Add toolboxes and victory badges to Exchange Loot
✅ Change Arena of Doom, change Top commanders although most players were still happy with the old versions
I like new arenas armanents rewards
Why you sniffing on him
Tho ?
🧏 something going between you two ?
Mine your own business 🗣️
My business is finding other business
my business is noble learning to use non cat emojis (because i cant use them so im jealous)
Then good. You can do the safeme and get baned permanently.
If you spend it wouldnt be possible 🫡🤣
get nitro for cat gifs
Yes me
No, is that the newest region
What clan?
Me
Kc2q
How bout u? What clan

Its new clan i created your heart named
Screenshotted this now ill send that to your gf
I am gf
Oof
He’s not here
I'm from TCOL btw
General
Are you going back to rok now that tc is cross region

No
Attack buff is my need .
Helps alot in wars and people think us as hacker because we have 30 scavs and 30 marshals
😂😂
Yes we are allies
lol no one threatening farm account anymore since the TC went multi region
Lol you see those even without cross region
Don't think they ever have that during arrows
I'm trying to still do it
Yeah its ridiculous to see how many of them this time lol
Mines fine, no ones done any crazy amount of points yet
Nobles been threatening the farm above him in points all day
That farm accounts is cool now. Only score like 70M. A new farm came into the picture and scored 190M😂
That's okay. I've always been a miss of fecal matter
Someone pushed me to 2nd
Good
What kind of bs is this TC . This bloodsucking developers are really sh1ting on us with this bs
You don't even get hero fragments anymore. It's not even worth it anymore for the rewards
Agree apsolutly
Im crying right now
I finally unlocked t6
I feel like a massive stone has been lifted from my chest
Ive been suffering as t5 for long enough
Congrats! 🍻
Click overall on the right side. There is still hero frags
Crying because of your new healing costs?
250 for first place now
I haven't even encountered them
Good ranks in the phases give you bonus points for event
Count your blessings now 🤣
We have the same bracket i think lol
Not points, frags lol
Adding secret armory and Julia’s magic cards to tc is just stupid
No way to win now without dropping dollars
Saving has been made irrelevant
CaptainTony with 260m in my tc 🥲
Why do players like this go so hard for frags?
Dont they have like 10k+ universal frags anyway?
Congratulations
His chasey awake i think
Ikr
My tc the top one has 120m
Atleast its not a fkn farm account
This new TC is shite how to compete against whale's who just dominate game
do they still offer the monolith skin?
Might just delete account fukk the game
i mean the troop skins. for infantry/riders/ranged
Probably not those ones
you trying to make me cry? first TC, now this.
Im already crying from finally unlocking t6, i just want a friend so we cry together
Might don’t mean nothing anymore.. Arena expose that
now to reach top spot u need spend healing boosts which lead to be less useful on the battlefield
🤦♀️
Just beat a dude with 10mil more power... Setups are more important 😂 Can't be using Jaden even with T6
Jaden is actually decent in arena because of buffs.. Especially for a f2p.. Same as Lee
lee is s tier
If Lee is S their
Then i am Jeffrey Epstein
Right but at 36m power In arena you probably have better options
I wouldn’t push it that far now lol Lee is good for a f2p
Believe it or not I was still using Jaden, Lee, and Martin at 40m lol Because I didn’t have many awaken hero’s and wasn’t spending much
I even used Charlie as well in arena
You guys are lucky because you have more hero’s now
Martin would be good if they just changed the healing factor. Should heal Heavily wounded
Probably because if you come 1st place you get a 12% boost in rewards from the other event
At one point healing hero was OP.. ESP Thunder and Tom
I suppose that's fair, I'm still fairly new to the game so I missed out on the early days
Tom is very underrated
First hero I awakened is Thunder now everyone says he's shite lol
When I first started heros was slim pickings lol There wasn’t Julia, Elana, Etc
Thunder is still good in higher G’s
Peter was good then?
Yeah until they nerfed Peter
Peter was suppose to be great but they change his skills
Unfortunate. I wish instead of releasing $400 skins they'd just rework the gd heroes instead
They messed up on Louis skin compare to the sisters.. I have a feeling they are gonna give Thunder a skin
Maybe Vitkor
Probably. But I don't think he'll be next, or he shouldn't be at the very leats
I wonder which infantry hero they will give a super weapon for?
I would love it if they have Eddie one lol
that blond with bear
Sara?
How can I change the commander
Sara has a bear in her belly
Probably some new hero. Though it would make sense if they gave one to Riven or Eddie. As this event hero is "infantry"
He's not infantry though. I'm thinking riven. The ranged and rider are both from newest set
Riven
my ride-or-die girl, adut, better get that superweapon
I wish they had left top commander on its own, really don't like the new set up! How do we get the hero frags now?
Yes she better
It wouldn't make sense to do a roulette hero for superweapon when the others are TC heroes and it's through TC stuff you get the weapons.
Give it to raigoro
Give him a counter to bella
Was going to say his weapon would be diabetes
Then all 5 people that awakened him will be very happy