☕┊en-general-chat

[rich hamlet]

Just go away again SlimShady, reading your comments is just annoying

[sage current]

Yeah, and that can be incredibly annoying when somebody is, say, in rank 50, and then the people in 51, 52, etc pvp to put them a bracket lower.

If you're not at a place where you affect other peoples' rankings, I don't have a problem with pvp.

If you've already got 80m points though, just don't.

[wind yew]

Since this is either slim or slims diciple I don't know if it's even worth telling him he's just wrong about basically everything he said

[rich hamlet]

Just interrupt PVP

[sage current]

I was about to yesterday.

It would have required a relcator and a run across the rest of the map though

[wind yew]

Tbh idc about people pvping as long as they can fight when it actually is needed

Just don't use all your speeds and tokens before mids open 🌚

I get alot of smaller people gona have a harder time hitting 80m points anyways

[south ember]

Pvp in phase 1 is crazy, you're filling hospital before the main fight

[rich hamlet]

The issue arises when people only PVP and take rewards away from players that have worked hard during war. The people that work hard during war generally don’t have the ability to do PVP because they’re troops are expended

[wind yew]

For me it's much easier though I can field fight without a care unless I'm getting obliterated

[rich hamlet]

That’s why I just blanket hate all PVP

[wind yew]

That's true though most fighters aren't gona be behind someone running 1v1s unless that guys a professional 1v1er

We got one guy here who's a pro 1v1er but he never misses rallies so I don't complain lmao

[rich hamlet]

It depends there are also fighters that just fill rallies and garrisons and if you’re taking negative trades it’s easy to beat a player like that with PVP

[tacit marsh]

I use healing speeds, general speeds, gems, rapid heal, all of it.

[south ember]

F2p only have the healing speeds though

[nocturne hawk]

Guys, I'm afraid to start upgrading a commander and then a more powerful hero meta will come along I would be so mad

I would break my phone

Losing 1 years of my life

🤬

[south ember]

Just choose the top field ones. Even if new ones come out they'll still be good

[nocturne hawk]

Like adut and miya

?

[south ember]

Adut is still one of the best after miya released. Bella and elena are still good riders after felix and chasey

[tacit marsh]

They just need to spend than... it's easy, get a 2nd job and direct deposit to igg.

[modest tangle]

My Alliance did the antepede hunt, and at one point it said that a cave opened up to scout, but i could not find that cave, where would i look?

[nocturne hawk]

Is chasey op btw?

[scarlet pewter]

Thats my fav thing to do and the hate comments i get from both sides are do funny

[nocturne hawk]

Thank you for helping 🙏

[south ember]

It's on map near antpede, if you're all clustered around antpede it should be in closest open spots

[south ember]

And Louis has been one of the top ranged forever

[south ember]

Interrupting the enemy faction doing pvp by their 7?

[nocturne hawk]

Is chasey op?

[south ember]

Seems to be one of the best garrison atm. Not sure about on field

[olive turtle]

she's bouncy. and needs reduction surgery.

[nocturne hawk]

Her skill looks so op

[south ember]

I heard she's great against julia bard

[nocturne hawk]

Damn

[slim bluff]

Stop saying Eddie is only for rallies
When he is not.

Eddie is as good on rallies as he is on the field.

[deft cave]

I didn't say Eddie is only for rallies

he is good in field

[nocturne hawk]

Is Eddie as important as adut and miya for infantry mains for exemple or just for rally so not that important

[slim bluff]

"He is mainly for rallies" implies only for Rallies

[south ember]

Less important, I think adut miya and riven 1st

[deft cave]

"mainly for rallies and to get swarmed in the field"

was refering to both. If you are on the field flanking and hiding/running away, he is still decent, but there are better options

[nocturne hawk]

Thunder hater is mad today 🤬

[slim bluff]

Eddie giving 30hp 30def and huge counter damage is better than both Adut and Miya imo

[deft cave]

what

[nocturne hawk]

Tbh I don't see Eddie on field I always see adut ans miya

And*

[deft cave]

Adut gives 44% stats at turn 1 and goes up to 84%

[nocturne hawk]

Adut solos fr

[slim bluff]

Hp and def are the best stats on Infantry while atk is the lowest

[deft cave]

Miya gives 60% stats, 12% damage

[deft cave]

that's why you want to upgrade attack....

HP is great ngl, since it's so hard to upgrade

[slim bluff]

Especially HP since its harder to get therefore will be more efficient

[slim bluff]

???

[deft cave]

you want to cover the weaknesses of your troop type

DEF/HP is wayy more valuable on ranged for example

[slim bluff]

Having 120% atk in one squad is actually a bad thing

The higher the % is the less effective it will be

[deft cave]

moot point since you are covering for infantry low attack

[slim bluff]

Nope that applies for every stat on every troop

[deft cave]

both adut and miya give DEF though

[nocturne hawk]

Adut needs hp

[deft cave]

Overall this is not clear and having a strong opinion on it is weird

[slim bluff]

The reason why HP is good is because you dont have alot of HP buffs

[deft cave]

agree, though again infantry already have highest HP so they need it a bit less than others

I'll try to get someone with Eddie and run tests

want to bet something?

[slim bluff]

If you're not clear why sharing your opinions then?
Like how you say that Eddie is mainly for rallies.. and that he isn't better than Adut or Miya when he clearly is

[deft cave]

It's not clear that Eddie's stat boosts are better than Adut or Miya's stat boosts

But there are more to the heroes than stat boosts, and Eddie's extra stuff ON THE FIELD, WHILE NOT BEING ATTACKED offers less than adut and miyamoto

[slim bluff]

If you research and studies the game you would know

[deft cave]

And again, there was the conjunction "and" after the "mainly"... I think he shines in both things

so if you are a whale that gets swarmed often on the field he can probably give you a lot

if you are a tiny guy doing your best to get some trades from the side, he is clearly worse

[merry trail]

AR and last survivor both need adjustment as the very strong desamate the weaker

[scarlet pewter]

Yessss

[latent parcel]

Nah. If you can't get Eddie to be useful, you can't get myo to be useful too.
Many people looked down on riven just like Eddie..at the end both produce more results as they grow. I was happy I got riven when people ran after thunder in April. The assaulted that can counter range, rider and assaulted has to be better.

Best decision of this game, choosing riven over thunder. However I got thunder 1st skill completed later

[south ember]

Everyone says get riven though

Riven and eddie aren't as good in field as miya and adut. That's why people recommend them

[latent parcel]

Then ....no
I just loved her z virus stats because I was looking for how to remove Liam from my z virus lineup. I went for her for that reason then and was surprised how much I could use her to do.

[latent parcel]

I noticed pretty early that field was just a section of the game after I upgraded Cynthia too much. If I had done what I did with Cynthia to Louis, I would have him near awakened right now. So I prefer Eddie with any of them

When you are growing, you would notice pretty quickly how long it takes to be too useful in the field. So for growing players, let them pick based on their immediate need, all are good in what they can do.

[magic silo]

Sky watches one YouTube video and now has even less nuance to his povs

[deft cave]

the diminishing returns one?

I have similar intuitions, though it bothers me that no one knows wtf HP does

[magic silo]

They're also less accessible.
Literally any account can land adut or miya the first TC that ever comes, spender or not

[trim ether]

Esse evento retrata o quê?

[deft cave]

a growing player would have more of a chance of doing something with Adut/Miya than with Eddie tho

[magic silo]

Yes, and they're right in that few things give hp, making it by default the most efficient/valuable stat. I've always maintained (and even argued with him before) that boosting the lowest stat has the most effect just by default, it doesn't hardly matter what the base value is if you're operating on adding a couple % to a 150%+ bonus

I've never heard anyone say eddie is better than adut and miyamoto

Until now

[south ember]

Riven and lynne are great in z virus. I finished mine with them

[magic silo]

Even eddie- who do you siege with? Who do you pair him with on field??
Adut or Robert usually

[desert badge]

quiero ganar

[south ember]

In field or overall? Eddie is good in field and rally. Though miya eddie seems to be the popular rally squad

[magic silo]

That's the point- eddie has specific pairs to make him good- he pretty much needs adut or miya or robert.
By extension it's hard to say he's the main hero or better than them somehow.
He's good, reasonably versatile, but the 100% efficient field heroes are adut and miya.
And you need some kind of speed if you're a small player trying to do anything

[south ember]

Z's eddie jin seemed to do well too.

[slim bluff]

How is he doing something if he has less impactful heros???

[deft cave]

because they are more impactful for a growing player

who can't rally or tank damage

[slim bluff]

He is lol
Explain how he isn't
I wait

[magic silo]

If you're a small growing player 99% of your time on the field is spent running away from bigger players

[slim bluff]

A growing playing if they choose Adut and Miya they can rally?

[magic silo]

I don't care what armchair theory you want to say about it, you're going to get a lot better use out of adut miyamoto than eddie with anybody in that scenario

Half of eddies kit is shields and counter damage.
If you're small and growing you're trading damage for defense that's reliant on you being attacked.
If you're getting attacked you're playing field wrong as a small player

[magic silo]

Yes I've done quite well against stronger garrisons with adut miyamoto. I rarely do it because stronger players are priority obviously.
How many siege rallies do you run sky?

[slim bluff]

Wrong
Stat wise Eddie is better than Adut or Miya

The damage, shield, hp and def is already on pair with Adut or Miya

The counter damage and hp debuff makes him better

[magic silo]

No sorry you're just objectively incorrect friend.

[sage current]

Eddie has better stats than even Eddie?

[south ember]

Eddie's skills buff counter damage, you only get that if you're primary target. And the main reason you want it is that it's the only damage type used against secondary targets.

[slim bluff]

I dont do any rallies why would i lol? Im not a whale
What does rallying have to do with Eddie?

[magic silo]

Miya has far more damage from passive boost and skill damage. And they both have movespeed. Essential for small person on field.

[deft cave]

what damage?! Eddie has no extra damage on the field outside of counter damage

[magic silo]

Literally responding to your point on rallies but we can move past that.

[slim bluff]

Typo... was about Adut

[deft cave]

if HP is so important, why would you not consider Miyamoto's debuff here as well?!

[south ember]

That's also on counter so probably not too impactful on new players. They should avoid being primary target.

[deft cave]

what would a growing player even do with eddie?

[south ember]

Die mostly

[deft cave]

like I've been there with adut/miya, running around trying to flank t6s as t5 and praying I don't get targeted

[slim bluff]

Yes Eddie has 0 dmg
11300 skill damage isn't there and the counter damage
If he gets swarmed he does 5x more in that scenario than Adut Miya lol

[magic silo]

Like adut and miya both have rage skill damage higher than eddie, eddie has 0 boost to attack or damage. He is a defensive hero

[south ember]

Don't get swarmed if you're new

[deft cave]

if I had Eddie instead I would have died instantly as I would have had no mobility

[magic silo]

If you got swarmed you fd up as a new player. You aren't trading anything back you evaporate lol

This is probably your most unhinged take ever haha

[slim bluff]

Mobility doesn't effect the heros strength
Mobility is a cheesy stat

[magic silo]

I'm actually dying

I can't haha

[south ember]

A new player should attack while their stronger players are being focused

[deft cave]

I said -EXTRA- damage. He has no extra damage over adut or miya. His attack/dmg stats are vastly inferior, as he is more of a tank hero

[slim bluff]

If you're new player you shouldn't be fighting anyway

[slim bluff]

Its not everything about the damage

[magic silo]

So don't pick any heroes as a new player, sit in ilaw and do nothing instead

[south ember]

Chasing you down with my riders would be fun

[deft cave]

if a small player gets swarmed his trades are going to suck regardless. 10:1 vs 9:1, who cares

[south ember]

Sit in ilaw and complain in discord while they fight

[deft cave]

but if he gets targeted with adut/miya at least he can run. I mean this isn't theory, I have done this many times, I would have died so often without speed

[deft cave]

Stan best hero

easier to level up to 60 so you can fill with troops for rallies

[south ember]

Use Jaden ofc

[sage current]

Stan is my only hero with zero kills

[slim bluff]

To define a heros strength you look at whether or not a growing player can escape 10:1 trade fight?

[south ember]

Martin and Russell are the best because of their zombie exp buff

[magic silo]

The point is- a new player is taking a risk by going on the field. No matter what.
If you want to lower that risk- take as much speed as possible to get out of bad situations.
ONLY thing you can do in fights is try to carefully flank while your strong allies are the targets. You kite away when they turn on you.
If you're doing it right you don't get focused, and you only attack.
Defensive stats help your counter trades, but the focus should be get as much damage in as fast as you can and get out.

Adut miyamoto is just objectively the best at that. Balance of damage, defense, and speed.

[slim bluff]

Why are you even mentioning a new player

[magic silo]

Any player who is weaker

[slim bluff]

A new player shouldn't even attempt to fight
Pls stop

[south ember]

It's the topic for the last 10m

[wind yew]

I mean siege its arguable

[magic silo]

I still play this way since I don't spend

[wind yew]

field I'd say he matches them his biggest downside might be speed

[magic silo]

We have tons of newer players, fresh t5 who get a lot done on the field by playing smart

[south ember]

Usually it's adut or miya leading with eddie as secondary though

[wind yew]

anybody who garrisons with eddie deserves to be tortured though

[deft cave]

new player is perhaps too strong, but basically any player who is not a whale

[magic silo]

Even some t4 if you can pick your battles and use your speed.

[wind yew]

yeah I run adut eddie

I wouldnt lead with him because his tree

[magic silo]

Agree

[deft cave]

This started because I said "unless you are a big player, you'll get more on the field from adut/miya than eddie"

[wind yew]

anybody garrisoning with him I consider mad though since you almost never keep a garrison fully infantry

[south ember]

Agree, my better t5 go in battle while I'm being focused then run if they're targeted

[wind yew]

theres always people filling with range riders etc, too hard to just sit there kicking anything non inf out

[deft cave]

I've been testing this and it's actually gameable

the buff is applied on turn 1 and never re-checked

[south ember]

I think Albert said you only need start of battle to be infantry only

[hollow juniper]

join

[wind yew]

hm? counter damage dosnt kick you in the azz?

[slim bluff]

Your argument for how strong Eddie is vs Adut/Miya is how he isn't good for growing player bcs he cant escape whales xD

Your just talking nonsense, pls stop typing and close the discord.

[wind yew]

strange

[south ember]

Who's?

[wind yew]

I mean like eddies dosnt disappear

[deft cave]

I didn't see it in my tests

[south ember]

Apparently while leading only skills are only checked once

[wind yew]

thats one of the biggest issues I'd find with garrisoning if the infantry skill works all around the clock though then theres not a problem

[deft cave]

I tried it with Miyamoto, and it was just turn 1 that it was checked

[wind yew]

thats intresting though

[deft cave]

I asked people to add non-inf troops to a miya rally on a hivemind after it had started, and the game didn't care

it's applied on turn 1 and that's all. But that also means if someone screws up and sends as much as one t1 car before the rally reaches the garrisons, you are screwed

[south ember]

How do you tell it's not disabled

[deft cave]

the game tells you the turns a skill applies. It just shows up in turn 1 and says "DMG has been activated for the fight's duration"

it did not say anything on the turn after mixed arrived

mixed was 10 t1 cars, and I did not see a drop in damage

I'll try to check it more carefully when I can tho

[slim bluff]

"He is mainly for rallies"
"Not good if you're a growing player"

Some of the wildest armaments ive ever heard

[sage current]

Sky, what puts Eddie above others to you?

[magic silo]

Sky is still here

[south ember]

One of my favorite sky takes

[sage current]

Mobility doesn't come in to play in your shelter

[slim bluff]

Better stats, guarantee hp debuff and counter damage

[south ember]

Why counter

[slim bluff]

Why not counter?

[deft cave]

mainly for rallies AND being swarmed

[magic silo]

The passive stats are barely better, he's just hopped up on hp right now

[slim bluff]

How is he mainly for rallies if he is as good on field as he is on rallies ?

[sage current]

Yeah. He's got HP.

[magic silo]

And he's trading defensive stats for offensive ones thinking it's objectively better for everyone in every context

[deft cave]

mainly (rallies + being swarmed)

[sage current]

There is only one context.

[deft cave]

not (mainly rallies) + being swarmed

[magic silo]

In his mind yeah, the thing that makes it impossible to have a real conversation about anything here 🥹

[slim bluff]

Just because he has a tiny skill for rallies doesn't mean he is for rallies

[alpine knoll]

he is most definitely rally focused... inf + counter damage assumes that

inf is rarely targetted on the field

[slim bluff]

I guess it isn't for everyone that don't want better trades

[deft cave]

"HP is the most important stat" "reducing HP by 25% is tiny"

[deft cave]

a smaller player isn't getting any trades from counter damage

[alpine knoll]

this is no thunder vs everything, stop it

[slim bluff]

No his not.
90% of his skills work on the field

[alpine knoll]

miyamoto and adut are both really good heroes

[magic silo]

Alright I'm going to suffer in bounty ground it will be better for my mental health

[alpine knoll]

counter damage on 3rd skill, counter damage on half of 2nd skill, and half of 4th skill debuffs

[sage current]

I think the real reason sky prefers eddie over miya or adut is you have to spend gems on roulette to get them and it's 100% a waste of gems to spend them on anything other than vip 13.

[alpine knoll]

no it really wont...

unless you use cynth bella or the like

[deft cave]

yeah but they are guaranteed to work better in a rally. As a tank rally hero there is no one better. Counter-attack ensures the garrison eats it up + anyone trying to swarm it and counter rallies, good def and hp to keep it up, hp reduction in rallies, etc

[slim bluff]

Counter damage only works on rallies?

[alpine knoll]

no, but when do you ever see infantry being targetted first?

its ranged > rider > bianca > inf

[deft cave]

he shines during rallies and when being swarmed on field, but neither are happening if you are a smaller player. That's really the argument.

well you can get swarmed as a smaller player but then you die no matter what

[slim bluff]

Thats a sht argument

[deft cave]

ok enough for me too

[slim bluff]

Your basically saying that no body except whales should get Eddie

[deft cave]

no, just that eddie should be lower in the priority list than adut or miyamoto for non-big players

if you are infantry main, you most likely want him eventually even if you don't rally

[slim bluff]

They should choose Adut or Miya because somehow they are better and they will trade better they have dmg and speed

Again with the rally

Im done

[wind yew]

I mean I'd use him on the field although not sure if I'd use him over miya and adut, speed is massive his damage is good but being slow has too many drawbacks

[scarlet pewter]

Thats best thing in this game bounty ground

[wind yew]

still one of my fav inf heros though

[scarlet pewter]

Who

[south ember]

Eddie

[scarlet pewter]

Thunder?

[scarlet pewter]

Hes an animal

[south ember]

I still put adut miya and riven over eddie

[deft cave]

But mobility is a cheesy stat

[sage current]

Thunder is only good in rallies

[scarlet pewter]

Hes roaming slaughter house

[scarlet pewter]

We did thunder louis rally yesterday to remove people from near rallies

[wind yew]

mobility is everything if you're the slowest turtle then you're the first one eaten up lmao

[scarlet pewter]

7m thunder is good for rallies

[wind yew]

same goes the other way around

if you're too slow you miss out on plenty of kills chasing people down

my eddie isnt the one eating people up who are skidaddling

[sage current]

I accidentally joined a thunder rally over the weekend.

[wind yew]

still love eddie though get him over plenty of other inf heros if I need a field hero

[scarlet pewter]

Eddie is pretty good that counter damage is awesome . Many people
Think before swarming eddie rallies

[wind yew]

lmao yeah I love him when I got 0 field control

[south ember]

We're talking about what heroes new players should focus on

[slim bluff]

Who is we?

[south ember]

Who do you use? Riven eddie? Eddie robert?

[scarlet pewter]

Tbh i will like eddie

[south ember]

Several people for maybe 20m

[scarlet pewter]

You and i are we

[wind yew]

I'd just run miya adut eddie robert in a seperate march, some people like splitting miya adut but I want my main speed in one march for chase-downs

[magic silo]

fml i can't do it. I did one. It's like 10 people all hitting each other 3 times then escaping each other.
How is everyone faster than each other 😄
the combat/targeting is not suited for this type of game mode. It's too frustrating by design without buying the nets 😄

[wind yew]

rivens not terrible but far from my fav field hero

maybe my last resort in 3 marches

[slim bluff]

I wasn't mentioning new players
Someone bringed it up in one of their arguments

[magic silo]

new and or small-medium non whales really

[south ember]

That was the beginning of the discussion actually

[scarlet pewter]

I didnt buy bounty packs yet 😂 but it still fun i just chase down every with park and elena

[deft cave]

in AR some noob 60M player did a raigoro/liam rally against a 5M armament, T3 device T6. He sneaked it in between two proper rallies, preventing the third from touching. And then disconnected.

[olive turtle]

who are awesome field heroes?

[magic silo]

Eddie is great, but i cannot imagine someone taking him over adut and miya. Like not even a whale tbh

[south ember]

Same, I don't even have him awakened yet

[deft cave]

clueless people kept refilling, it ended up 1.5M losses on his side vs like 50k on the other

[south ember]

What why

[scarlet pewter]

Everywhale in g1 was using eddie

[wind yew]

im not usually the grammar police but bringed 😭

someone bringed it up 😭 nooooo

[magic silo]

I'm about to unlock him this TC and have 130M kills as a non-whale infantry main who doesn't hit tiles.
No regrets focusing on adut and miya lol

[slim bluff]

Stat wise hes better
If you don't agree then your just overrating on Adut Miya with their cheesy speed

[wind yew]

I love when people rally my towers like that

[scarlet pewter]

Finding aricei is still motive of my game

[deft cave]

I think he didn't know rally leader sets the stats for the rally? He was like noob noob. Later apologized though, said he didn't understand what he was doing.

[south ember]

Only noobs would have brought something up, pros like sky only bringed things up

[magic silo]

you're under valuing speed for exactly the players we are talking about and just generally.

You want to stand there being swarmed down and dying, great, i will eat that eddie for lunch tyvm

[deft cave]

He was 60M though, which should have taken him months. I have no idea how people go this far this clueless

[wind yew]

no joke its not like its just one player you got loads of them out there who do this, I've had it happen on my end but never actually launch the rally because im screaming in chat to cancel

[scarlet pewter]

People always want to lead rallies

[wind yew]

then theres the people actually filling the rally

and you're like eh?

[magic silo]

this is the true blunder haha

[slim bluff]

Speed doesn't determine strength

Just because Peter Hank can out run in Bounty Ground doesn't mean they are strong

[magic silo]

No doubt man, solid analysis

[wind yew]

but this isnt peter and hank

peter and hanks stats are dogsht

[scarlet pewter]

Some guy from specs rally 240m rok guy last island and spec guy was 80m trade is like 1m vs 13m
People actually refilled is cythina cath rally

[wind yew]

speed is an add-on which makes you stronger, its like people who say luck is a skill, speed is an addition to strength if used properly

I love eddie but man I aint gona act like lack of speed dosnt matter, it makes a major difference

[magic silo]

Speed means you get to pick your fights. And there is very little downside.
You're trading a difference of like 10% passive combat stats between miya and eddie, and just adding speed on top of that PLUS DAMAGE boost vs counter damage boost. and a much larger skill factor

[slim bluff]

I guess they are all bunch of noobs should have used more speed to run

[wind yew]

I'd be lacking tens of millions of kills if I were too slow

[deft cave]

we screamed so much, we pmed him, we screamed in chat not to fill rally... didn't matter. With 7 alliances per legion, there's bound to be enough clueless guys for anything

he said he didn't "check private messages during fights"

[wind yew]

welp he looking for a new alliance afterward if im his leader

[scarlet pewter]

I have 4 gold speed honed on my julia 🥹 can u believe i have 0 on my rider arms

Game is so much disappointing to me

[wind yew]

I try to but thats me, my excuse is all my accounts though

cordinating so many accounts I cant even check dms for a second or I might be idle on the field on another account after it finishes a fight

[south ember]

G1 whales don't choose which hero to get. They take everything

[deft cave]

the whole argument is that NON-WHALES get less use from him than adut/miya. Whales of course do.

[scarlet pewter]

Yes if non whale or spender guy he should
Go for adut miya combo it really goood

[slim bluff]

No they need speed, speed gives them strength

[scarlet pewter]

Good speed good damage less survival but damage is really good

[deft cave]

facts

like sky don't know how to tell you but I've done this dozens of times

[south ember]

True, best sky take👌

[deft cave]

when there's a big whale brawl I can manage to get some good trades against whales by flanking while they are targeting the mass of squads in front of them

[wind yew]

if im too slow they eat me alive because I cant get out in time lol

[deft cave]

and the moment I see the red icon of being targeted I run like a coward

[wind yew]

thanks eddie

[slim bluff]

Done what? Outrun a whale and avoid being slaughtered, congrats
Thats how you determine if a hero is good or not

[wind yew]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-boy-walk-away-cry-man-tears-gif-5637398

[magic silo]

and actually help your team in the process instead of throwing your hands in the air and saying don't go to field cause you're too weak

if all you're doing is using troops to fill rallies and garrisons, doesn't matter who you pick. dont waste your time on eddie, get stan to level 60 and call it a day

this is the most ridiculously juvenile way to argue

[nocturne hawk]

hello

[slim bluff]

Running circles around your enemy is how you help your alliance
Avoiding all the fights is the right move

[magic silo]

it literally can be.
Some fights all i do is kite in and they try to chase me. That whole time our whales are getting free trades

[deft cave]

can confirm, you can manage to get many free attacks from your whales by acting as bait

[magic silo]

and if they aren't smart enough to focus me, i can stand there unleashing skills on their backsides

[deft cave]

if they attack you, you run away and they get nothing. If they ignore you, you get some decent trades from flanks.

[slim bluff]

Surely they will be chasing you down all the time
Surely they wont focus on those whales

[magic silo]

sometimes i'm not even trading positive on the flank, but it''s still accomplishing something and getting me some points

[magic silo]

why is it absolutes? They can try to get me for 2s and skip 2 turns of damage on our team and it helps

you're being so ridiculous about this im sorry

this last AR on chainsaws i did this on one. I kite close and they turn on me, then i run, they turn back, repeat. They skipped half their turns trying to chase me while our whales just kept fighting 100%

[wind yew]

If you attack and they turn around to focus you and you just dip and keep doing drive by then yeah and if they give ip on focusing you you're dealing easy damage from behind

I've had it happen to me and done it to players... it's pretty effective

Very annoying too

[slim bluff]

You think i don't know that?

[wind yew]

You make it seem like you don't

[magic silo]

Your other options are-
A: waddle out with your eddie and get eaten while trading nothing back.
B: sit in your base doing nothing, come to discord to complain

[slim bluff]

C: think you know everything about the game and argue with Sky

[magic silo]

pretty much you're the only one who's never admitted to being wrong on something.
I usually maintain nobody is right or wrong it's just differences of opinion.
You're the one who deals in absolutes

this isn't about game knowledge so much as it is discussing play styles then trying to advise which one is best for which players

[slim bluff]

Yea like how Eddie is mainly for rallies and bad for growing players
Surely they are right

[scarlet pewter]

Have they nerfed jacob since his launch ?

Someone in ec told me jacob got nerfed and hes not good anymore

While i think hes better than Louis in garrisom

[magic silo]

Nobody even said this. Some people referenced rallies and it not being an optimal pick for those players often. Which i agreed with

[deft cave]

lies

[magic silo]

i don't believe so- if they did it was so long ago it's not really relevant

[deft cave]

jacob is a good boy. His 4th skill got re-named to how it actually works (activates under 50% HP)

[scarlet pewter]

Thanks brother i was close to awake him

[deft cave]

I was playing around with him recently and all worked as intended

[magic silo]

maybe nerfed by extension because of certain other later release choices being better?

[deft cave]

not sure he is better than louis, but I like him

[slim bluff]

If you think that no body said it then you have problems with reading

[scarlet pewter]

I like him too

[magic silo]

higher raw damage, less rage regen. I kinda like the tradeoff

[scarlet pewter]

But as a brother of mine !

[magic silo]

sure sure

[subtle rune]

He didnt get nerfed., his 3rd skill wasn’t working right on reports but they fixed it.. They did change his 4th skill but I wouldn’t cal that nerfed

[deft cave]

his 4th skill is still too meh, even after figuring out how it works

[scarlet pewter]

Ohkay so i just shared him on ec and got told wasted frags

[subtle rune]

I think Jacob is better on garrison than Louis

[subtle rune]

EC chat 😂😂

[magic silo]

I thought that was just a text change, i don't think they actually changed the skill

[scarlet pewter]

🥹got depressed

[slim bluff]

Considering they are good chunk of better ranged hero it is a waste

[deft cave]

it's good! Also his random damage is very funny on the field

[subtle rune]

Yeah they just reword it and people thought that but when he first came out we was reading the reports and his 3rd skill wasn’t going off like it should but it got fixed once we sent it in

I seen Vitkor/Jacob garrison and the report was solid

ESP in AR

[scarlet pewter]

My louis suck jacob good julia awake so i was planning on working jacob as hes good garrison and can do field too

[subtle rune]

The more and more I see of Chasey/Elana garrison the more I want to awaken Chasey lol

[deft cave]

since ranged TCs are the least contested (at least in my region) he's not so hard to upgrade

[subtle rune]

Louis is still a beast though! ESP awaken

[scarlet pewter]

Chasey elena for multiple rally and chasey felix for single remeber it

[subtle rune]

I want to awaken Bard next TC 😈😈

Bard in rallies is a must have

[scarlet pewter]

I know but 🥹 i am f2p

[deft cave]

Also I posted this in hero chat, but since it has been evaporated from existence: his 4th skill can and does activate even at full garrison

[scarlet pewter]

I seen hes killing machine

[subtle rune]

His dmg is crazy in rallies.. We had 1 report from AR and it show 1m death against Thunder/Tom garrisons lol

[deft cave]

It just depends on the health bar of the garrison, which is based on total amount of losses during the fight vs currently alive troops. So if garrison is 1.5M, once there's 1.5M losses (lightly+heavy wounded) the "under 50%" activates. "under 30%" activates at around 3M losses.

[scarlet pewter]

Louis bard rallies is killing evrything near tower

[subtle rune]

Still don’t know why people run Thunder\Tom in garrison now

[subtle rune]

It hurt to even walk by lol

[scarlet pewter]

Heal lovers

[subtle rune]

And the trades wasn’t even positive

[scarlet pewter]

Yes 😂 even tower refillers got half if they ger aoe

[subtle rune]

Squads goes in half hp lol and come out dead lol

[alpine knoll]

🐳

[subtle rune]

Louis AOE is dangerous especially for t4 lol

[scarlet pewter]

Yes haha in g1 they use louis bard . While julia and lynnie for field

[subtle rune]

Yes Apple is a whale! ROK whale

[scarlet pewter]

Lies

[magic silo]

it's delicious to rally those 😍

[subtle rune]

https://tenor.com/view/nms-whale-sean-murray-gif-25759468

[scarlet pewter]

When hes 7m its dangerous fort5 t6 also

[subtle rune]

That is death for even t6 lol

[scarlet pewter]

Riven eddie rally !

[subtle rune]

Flank attack from a 7m hurts lol

[scarlet pewter]

Yea

[subtle rune]

Eddie/Riven is a great combo

[south ember]

I think hansz shelter garrison was victor jacob

[scarlet pewter]

Uod venom used riven eddie

[subtle rune]

I did PvP against someone who used that to test stuff out and the trade was bad

[alpine knoll]

neither are optimal field heroes

[subtle rune]

Made me start working on riven asap lol

[scarlet pewter]

Mr pooh did same . And its really powerful

[alpine knoll]

oh you mewn eddie riven

not victot jacob

[pale hound]

Sooo wanna see something not so funny 🤣

[scarlet pewter]

Theshy of boon have jacob as garrison also

[subtle rune]

Yes bro! Lol someone posted the video

[alpine knoll]

anything from him is powerful

[pale hound]

Beware of this region

[subtle rune]

Vitkor/Louis would work great in AR

[pale hound]

544

[subtle rune]

If leader armaments wasn’t so hard to get

🥹🥹

[scarlet pewter]

Buy endless packs lol

[subtle rune]

I’m working on a 4th of infantry armaments 😈😈

[scarlet pewter]

U can get each arm 3 star for 75$

[deft cave]

tbh I think Jacob makes more sense in shelter garrison because his skills mostly work on all troops, and you always have ranged in a shelter for his HP buff. His 50% 4th skill would activate for sure, and since he doesn't waste skills healing trades are going to be better

[subtle rune]

Yes! That’s how I maxed out all my gun armaments lol

[scarlet pewter]

I got my julia all 3star today only wepon 1 star but shes 2.1m

☺️ without devices

[subtle rune]

I lvl up t3 range defense just for her

[scarlet pewter]

But i cant send her out because there are wolfs with 5-7m arms

[subtle rune]

G1 forget about it lol

[scarlet pewter]

Only send her out when swarm bases silence helps haha

[alpine knoll]

i tried jacob louis in a low g ir... g155 i think it was (my jacobs 5152), and it just melted to a t5 bella rally

[subtle rune]

Cool thing about AOD now I can see all the mega whales heros and armaments 😈😈

[alpine knoll]

then i got swarmed by a t6 afterwards and got deaths

[scarlet pewter]

Rider kill range its not good

[deft cave]

that's a very gutsy garrison lol

[alpine knoll]

what else am i gonna use as assistant lol

[subtle rune]

Yeah you need Viktor for Jacob on garrison

[alpine knoll]

i dont have victor and prob never will

[deft cave]

but yeah against riders it's at a disadvantage

[scarlet pewter]

Rai jacob . Thunder jacob

[alpine knoll]

rai over louis...

[deft cave]

I thought the troop type disadvantage wasn't that huge but really noticed it

[subtle rune]

Happy to see Raigoro making a comeback ❤️❤️

[alpine knoll]

i dont have thunder and never will

[scarlet pewter]

Hes fat

[subtle rune]

He is the best!

[scarlet pewter]

You missing best hero

[alpine knoll]

nope

[subtle rune]

ESP to be a old hero

[alpine knoll]

im not missing anything

[scarlet pewter]

Mine 5531 because i did not think hes usefull hahah

[subtle rune]

Now if they would just just give Raigoro a skin he will be OP

[alpine knoll]

hes a hospital filler/buffer or is an inf garrison

neither of which i do

[deft cave]

in AR we were rallying two towers: one chasey/felix, the other Thunder/Victor (I think?). Ranged rallies melted against chasey, infantry ones did pretty well, and viceversa

[scarlet pewter]

Dont say they might hear

[deft cave]

the garrison leaders kept swapping to match our rallies and were screwing us up lol

[subtle rune]

That’s the worst lol

[scarlet pewter]

Lol hahhah its good idea

[deft cave]

we had to add a third front against their gate and fight for 3 hours until we managed to get through 💀

[alpine knoll]

but back to jacob/louis... even with that disadvantage my shelter isnt completely ranged... and like i said it was a t5 player (121m might or sokething but still t5)

seemed pretty sh1tty

[subtle rune]

121m t5 player?

[alpine knoll]

and then t6 guy swarmed me with ease

yes

[deft cave]

yeah louis/jacob I wouldn't use on shelter

[alpine knoll]

it worked lovely in ds

when i was swarmed the whole time

[subtle rune]

No way! I would use infantry before I used range

[deft cave]

only for a tower if you can properly coordinate

[alpine knoll]

free points for me cos of dumb ppl

[deft cave]

and fill it with ranged, perhaps against inf rally

[alpine knoll]

even t6 i got points from (was still p weak t5 atp)

[subtle rune]

Garrison your base with cars lol

[deft cave]

Thunder/Jacob would be better in shelter IMO since you at least buff your infantry

[alpine knoll]

i guess when its a rally the counter damage and aoe is less effective

[deft cave]

but victor/jacob seems like the top tier

[alpine knoll]

so that could be why

[ionic rose]

i have solo grandma garrison with t5 cars, nobody can hurt me

[deft cave]

I miss DS honestly

[alpine knoll]

i wanted to try julia/jacob instead but never got the chance after that

only in a tower and it was no ranged basically so it just melted so quick

[deft cave]

jacob/julia or louis/julia in a tower is something I would be curious about

Since julia at least has some survivability

but yeah you need ranged troops to make it work lol

[alpine knoll]

yea my friend tried julia louis on his shelter and it seemed better... but i think i attribute that to skills tree not julia

i def think jacob is better than louis

[deft cave]

why do you prefer him?

30% skill damage still seems OP to me, hard for me to tell

[alpine knoll]

he has a lot more of a tanky aspect to him

[tacit marsh]

Anyone got an idea when the honing challenge will come? Is it right after tc?

[alpine knoll]

17% atk reduction every 6 seconds, high counter damage, and an aoe skill the same time as that atk reduction

[alpine knoll]

should be during

[tacit marsh]

Oh is it after 1st phase?

[alpine knoll]

and i really like the idea of 4th skill during garrison

[deft cave]

it seems kinda low though... a t6 can have up to 300% ranged ATK

[alpine knoll]

2nd one is good too, 7.5% pure garrison dmg

[deft cave]

yeah 1st and 2nd skills are super solid

[alpine knoll]

well idk how it applies but its def not nothing

and the aoe part of.that skill is superb

maybe its also that my arms didnt suit for garrison, i have a LOT of attack and not much defense, hoping to change that this week

so almost all the tankiness came from jacobs talent trees

[ancient vector]

Coolbewear

[sly quail]

coolbewear

[nocturne hawk]

Florion?

[olive turtle]

anyone play that house of the dragon mobile game? any good?

[nocturne hawk]

idk bout anyone else but i keep getting heaps of ads @olive turtle

[olive turtle]

i'm getting tired of IGG shenanigans, so i thought id try some other game

$1500-2k for a shelter skin is absurd

[nocturne hawk]

yeah

[distant halo]

anyone experiencing lag?

[nocturne hawk]

yeah bout 7 hours ago it keept logging me out?

like 6 times in two hours

[wind yew]

Try TopHeros it's not a bad Gane I'm playing it too I mean comparable the skins can cost like 100-200$ which is generally tame compared to alot of games lol, its a much smaller game but still a little fun

[little steeple]

Speed up 300days

[sharp aurora]

Which one to lead with between Adut and Miyamoto for a field fight?

[grand drum]

Is anyone having problem with Pompeii matching as well? Or.. It's our unfair luck only?

We got matched with 24b alliance being 8b rating

[keen ruin]

Can some tell me parts wise is there any specific equipment we gotta focus or any equip which gives better output im infantry

[full grotto]

vest & knife is for infantry, backpack gives overall stats aswell

[scarlet pewter]

Gun is good for infantry it showsoff

Pant also good for them help them move fast

[torn jacinth]

Heeey

[keen ruin]

Gun or knife??

[keen ruin]

Parts wise too??

[full grotto]

Yes.
You can check the stats yourself by clicking on an equipment piece and then on "Index" in the top right corner

[gilded glen]

Qualche codice?🥰

[queen pumice]

What does attack hero stand for?

[wary terrace]

How many days to open t6

[wraith ridge]

Depends, you f2p or spender?

[wary terrace]

I mean days in research

[wraith ridge]

Oh no idea then

[wary terrace]

2 years or 1?

[wraith ridge]

No idea

[jolly fractal]

I got told that GW rewards are distributed 22 utc on last day. Can someone confirm this?

[final gale]

Trying to hop alliance right after event?

[jolly fractal]

Yeah

[final gale]

You get the win/lose phase rewards

But you'll lose final rewards

Or the war ranking rewards thing

[jolly fractal]

Ah okay, thanks

[keen ruin]

muchas gracias mi amigo

[full grotto]

de nada amigo

[short jungle]

[hexed reef]

which 1 better, squad damage or squad attack?

[north quail]

Do Fun Tokens carry over or do you lose them after lucky roulette is over ?

[scarlet pewter]

Squad damage is better

[hexed reef]

okok, thank you

[serene venture]

제네시스 하고싶어

[subtle rune]

Yes they carry over

[winter shell]

Pompeii. 7 v 37….really IGG?

[full grotto]

Sounds like a problem of your alliance

[sage current]

Nah. That's just people playing one of the flaws of the matching. A few strong players will be matched with a full team of t4s because the numbers all add up the same.

[thick plume]

what does the medal thingy on enemy flag in pompeii mean

[visual ore]

It's means they got super easy matchups

[livid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[spare isle]

💯

[naive parrot]

hy

[wide ridge]

🇻🇳

[tranquil shale]

[solid seal]

[olive turtle]

is it worth it to get to gold 1 to get the battle comms radar device? do you have to spend to get gold coins in gold 1?

[obsidian delta]

Aw

[echo bridge]

Im curently in Gold1. Its pretty easy to get top30 everytime. Usually needed about 100-150 hammers/ammo to finish in top20 actually. Maybe, one from six time i skip because competition is to high.

[olive turtle]

sounds like it's not too bad. top 30 gets you a gold coin?

[sage current]

I did 800 arrows one time and didn't even go up in rank.

[thick plume]

same mistake hehe

[sage current]

Or is that totally different from the hammerammo thing? I stopped paying attention when they switched to the pay-to-win-for-sure system.

[thick plume]

I'd be swimming in small batches of gems if I had saved

[echo bridge]

Yes. Top30 is one coin. Top20 is 3, and top15 is 5 i think.

[olive turtle]

i'm in silver 2 and climbing, but notice i have to consume more ammo/arrows/bullets to get into top 20

[echo bridge]

I could be wrong about numbers, but top30 gives you 1 coin for sure.

[olive turtle]

ahh ok

[solid acorn]

Keep in mind the first battle comms radar available to buy is 3 coins for 1 fragment. That is 90 coins for a full item spread over 6 weeks.

[echo bridge]

I focus mainly on superb fragments with golden coins. I find it battle comms to expensive to be actually relevant to low/mid spender.

[echo bridge]

And you get less golden coins. I know the pain. I went throw same. I started from silver.

[olive turtle]

geezus

[short steeple]

hi

is this team chat?

[olive turtle]

this is where fun goes to die.

[short steeple]

ha.ha.ha.

[south ember]

If you want to whale a lot. It's a very good device for garrison but it's 3 gold per fragment

[olive turtle]

i just want to whale a little bit. this radiant games bs really opened my eyes. it's minimum $1500 for hq skin

[south ember]

Yea they put too many regions together, I have ssi in my group so it'd impossible to get

[echo bridge]

50 coins for full superb arnaments. 90 coins for radar. By the time i can upgrade radar, this game will probable have new easier devices out 😅

[south ember]

Used to be I see 10+ spending a few hundred last day trying to get it, now it'd ridiculous

[olive turtle]

i scouted other regions, and they stacked them. i want to say they purposely did it that way to squeeze money out. this is really ridiculous

it's the same in other regions i saw

[sage current]

It is a bit suspicious when the top player has a very specific round number.

[scarlet pewter]

Same i have rok in group its impossible to get

[olive turtle]

it's getting to 10-20k for top 3 spot

[scarlet pewter]

33333

[olive turtle]

$10k-20k USD

[south ember]

I don't see any round numbers, top her is 42,116

[sage current]

Really though, top four 151000, 40,000, 30,000, 20,000. Then after that, everything is not ending in 000

[south ember]

Top 10 is 18k here

[south ember]

Wtf who has 151,000

[olive turtle]

yea exactly

[sage current]

Boogeyman

[south ember]

Oh you're against rok

[olive turtle]

such a turn off

[sage current]

rok, rial, o_u, and CSWD are the top four players

[echo bridge]

Third here have 21k.

[south ember]

Mines all ssi and hatz

[sage current]

But really, the four of them ending in 000 has me question the legitimacy.

[echo bridge]

Mind blowing actually

[olive turtle]

imagine them clicking the button and missing the 000 mark. they gotta drop another 500 basketballs lol

[sage current]

Yeah. The odds of four players all deciding to go for 000 and getting a a 1 roll are just... lower than the odds of something being rigged to make people spend more.

[olive turtle]

the skin doesn't even look that great

[south ember]

I remember the Christmas one I got top 20 just doing the zombies, now it's pointless

[sage current]

I think they just want the atk and dmg

[echo bridge]

Maybe after certain point, you only get round numbers from pack

[south ember]

I'm surprised if they're not already capped on most of those buffs

[olive turtle]

good point

at some point, it's about making a statement

[thick plume]

how much other stuff does the $100 pack even give

I think in my farm there's a 12m might guy in top 10

[subtle rune]

It’s the buff they want

[south ember]

The packs seems to have a good amount of metal for vehicles

[tacit marsh]

Yeah that's why I was going for it, but I wasn't spending 3k in it...

[thick plume]

yeah, and some decent amt of chips too

[tacit marsh]

Rank 1 in mine is currently near 40k points xD

[thick plume]

fkin raining speed ups and sht in the alliance gifts

[dapper halo]

What's up

[tacit marsh]

Honestly I kinda wanna go to a whale alliance for a bit and see the sht I can get lol

[thick plume]

I read from a potato from rok he got almost a year of speedy in a month or 2

[keen ruin]

Apex have hijacked ours all top 5 are apex 🙂

[wraith ridge]

Game's hella generous it feels. Idk if it's because it's new and they want to attract players, or because we finally have a mobile company that understands there has to be a balance between f2p and whales.

[sage current]

Not at all though.

[keen ruin]

6 out of 10

[wraith ridge]

I've played enough of these clones to know that I'd much rather play this than RoK or whatever came after it

[thick plume]

oh it's close

[sage current]

Maybe the others are worse, but this one is very much "pay a few thousand dollars or you will be second class citizen."

[thick plume]

also from the complaints

I'm sure they'll want to balance sht a bit

[wraith ridge]

I mean it's a mobile game. Duh.

It's still bad, but less bad than the rest

[sage current]

I'd hate to play the rest if they're worse than this.

[thick plume]

I tried SoS

[wraith ridge]

Unfortunately that's the case. RoK too old, they're pushing p2w event and mechanics to milk the players before the game ultimately dies. SoS is... Idk. A mess. Same company released a pirate game, a sub is like 40$+

And we finally have a game with autoscouting. Jeez. RoK was obnoxious because of their fog.

[thick plume]

rok looks really cartoonish

[wraith ridge]

It does. Was fine when it released (known as Rise of Civilisations back then) but it didn't age well. The chinese starter commander looks like a hamster.

[thick plume]

there's a kr one too with mech and sht, it looked goofy

[wraith ridge]

I'm sure there are people who grew up with CoC and they like the style of RoK, but I can only look at malformed cartoonish human beings for so long before I find it uncanny

I'm not saying the weird 2d swaying movements of the heroes looks fantastic, but they certainly look more like people than playmobiles

I also like the stories of each character. Historical figures are fine and all, but idk, not very creative.

[weary plover]

Hey, what is resource nodes?

[sharp aurora]

Why lead with Adut instead of Miyamoto on a battlefield when using them together? Can someone explain?

[sage current]

Defense boost from her skill will trigger first

[wraith ridge]

Do squad skin bonus stacks?

[olive turtle]

we found him boys. he's right over there officer, the mole.

[wraith ridge]

Damn. You got me. Idk what my crime is but I have committed so many, what's one more.

[olive turtle]

that would explain the whaling. crime.

[wraith ridge]

Idk. So far I haven't spent crap.

[olive turtle]

crime is the only occupation where i could spend $$$ in the game and not feel guilty about it

[weary plover]

^

[full grotto]

Did you play the tutorial?

[full grotto]

Yes they do up to a certain percentage

[weary plover]

Yep, but guess I don't remember now

[sage current]

Risking jail for a game? I'd feel worse.

[wraith ridge]

Yikes. So missing out on that rider skin at server start will put you behind?

[olive turtle]

you can get a phone smuggled into jail

still play your account

[full grotto]

yeah i missed that one too

[wraith ridge]

I need 700k more hero power and I only have 4 days left. Hard to do without any legendary

Probably impossible

City skins don't do that right?

[full grotto]

They stack too, same with march skins

they all count together, cap is at 20% for most

Some at 10%, others at 30%

[wraith ridge]

Okay, so that's actually pretty bad, then.

[full grotto]

most skins cost 200-600€ anyway for a tiny % buff

[wraith ridge]

It adds up when your units are permanently 20%+ stronger than someone who didn't spend money

[full grotto]

on top of that you look better 😂

[wraith ridge]

Heh don't care about that much.

[full grotto]

there are better things to spend your money on tbh

[wraith ridge]

Yeah, retirement funds

[full grotto]

like t3 parts & armaments instead of skins

[bright dock]

sorry for noob question, but how to give regions buff?

[full grotto]

ask the president of your region, hes the one that gives buffs to others

[tired rose]

Our president also give debuff without asking

[full grotto]

[bright dock]

thanks TAC! i'm alliance leader and got a personal message from another leader in region requesting a buff. since i'm not president, there's nothing i can do?

[wraith ridge]

So should I spend my stamina on zombies or hiveminds?

[tired rose]

Both

[wraith ridge]

I do my radar and the highest zombie lvl I can. Then how do I spend the remaining stamina?

[tired rose]

And save the refill for event

[tired rose]

Zombies for quick stamina or hive when offline

[full grotto]

Well unless the president didnt elect you to first lady, prime minister, marshall or chief of staff then no

[wraith ridge]

So zombies give more rewards or something?

[tired rose]

Not really

[full grotto]

Those can also give out buffs / debuffs

[tired rose]

I cant give buff or debuff but i can give you red flashing on your screen

[wraith ridge]

How do drop chance work with hivemind? The more people join, the less rewards for everyone?

[bright dock]

That makes sense now! So the president of region appoints those roles to people, then they can research to provide buff for region.

[tired rose]

The higher lv of hive and higher % of damage you deal

[wraith ridge]

Ah, so i'm probably not gonna get a whole lot of stuff then.

[tired rose]

It affect the number of stuff you get but not the type of stuff it drop btw

[wraith ridge]

I'll have to try out on my own. My alliance has some pretty big spenders in it

[tired rose]

Even if you do 99% damage it wont guarantee you will get badges 🥹

[full grotto]

Yes pretty much.
Click on the metro of your region, there's a tab with all ranks. Shows you which person has which rank etc

[tired rose]

If you want to spend your stamina the most efficient way then do zombies with aoe and keep dragging for aoe to hit more and more zombies for free hit

Most efficient on stamina but wasteful of time btw

I do it once in a while when im desperate for zombies kill but no refill

[wraith ridge]

I'm getting Richard I ptsd from this

This game really is just RoK with zombies

[sage current]

There's zombies in this game?

[tired rose]

I never play rok tho but this is my 3rd game on this genre

[wraith ridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid marten]

Ptsd lol

[sharp aurora]

I have Miyamoto, Adut, Robert, Riven, Tom & Raigoro. I want to run two Infa squads. Which four to focus on?

[sage current]

The first four

[sharp aurora]

Whom to pair with whom? & who should be the leader and assistance?

[flat roost]

In that very order you wrote it

[sage current]

If possible though, swapping Adut leading Miya would be marginally better

Kind of wish I got Robert this week instead of just trying to get more miya fragments.

[flat roost]

That's 3 good teams for infantry there

Tom and raigoro is just more towards the f2p side so it fades out over time very quickly

[weary plover]

^

[flat roost]

Lol

[quartz spire]

@sage current yeah

[south ember]

Why do you not know, just look at map

[sage current]

Please stop following me everywhere.

[full grotto]

Why dont you simply search for "doomsday last survivors ressource node" on google
Why didnt you pay attention during the tutorial
Why dont you look at your worldmap

[south ember]

Raig is still useful in garrison because of riven

[south ember]

What about the 2nd squad? Riven Robert?

[full grotto]

No offense but im really wondering how you get through life

[sage current]

I'd lead Robert due to skill tree, yes?

[quartz spire]

There are 3 heroes in each game . Xp level should be the same of all?

[sage current]

That's what I'm going to do anyway, in... six weeks because I'm a fool and didn't think to unlock him today so I'll only have 5 frags.

[weary plover]

I was thinking the same thing for you, just answer or not instead of creating essays about how it is my mistake

[full grotto]

Im not going to answer such a simple question
You gotta figure that out on your own

What is a ressource?

What is a node?

Soooo what could POSSIBLY be a ressource node ??

[quartz spire]

@sage current where did i followed you ??

[weary plover]

There is an event that says empty your Resource Nodes right?

Idk if it is language problem or not but I tried to do some things resource related, and so far it stuck at 3/5 which I am not sure how I got there in the first place.

[quartz spire]

@sage current yeah thats right

[full grotto]

🍅 for example is one of multiple ressources

That hint should tell you everything you need to know

🪨

🪵

[sage current]

Oh. You're a real human. Wow.

Figured you were one of those bots that just pings a person and never says anything.

[old zodiac]

Dillbagner

[quartz spire]

@sage current real human with 100% gurantee .

[fresh seal]

which event is next week?

[subtle rune]

Alliance League 🥹🥹

[fresh seal]

no IR??

[south ember]

Are you even farming

[weary plover]

Yep, send some ppl to farm about 10 times with full power

[south ember]

And they empty the node?

[south ember]

Don't see it in season events

[fresh seal]

🥹

[weary plover]

Don't they return when timer ends/ they finish gathering?

[subtle rune]

No you need to make sure you have a certain amount of troops to finish the node

[south ember]

You need to send enough to finish it, if they return because they're full but nodes not empty then it doesn't count

[plain hornet]

@fresh seal @fresh seal

[weary plover]

@subtle rune @south ember Hmm thats probably why then. I am gonna send full power to some level 1 then to be sure ^^

[plain hornet]

Ok

[ionic rose]

if you have enough cars/troops, when you click a node to send troops it should fill the squad with enough to finish the node. if you're adjusting it that might be why you arent finishing the nodes out.

[plain hornet]

Join me on doomsday

[subtle rune]

If you I have enough troops it will send exactly the amount you need but you need to check

[south ember]

Did you just start? You shouldn't be having trouble doing a full node

[subtle rune]

How many cars do you have?

If you have about 200-300k that is plenty to send out 5 sqauds to farm

[plain hornet]

Two car

[subtle rune]

Is it a dump truck?

Because you need the transmission one 4x4

[weary plover]

Level 10 actually, which is why I was wondering if resource node is something that I don't know / can't understand because of langugae

[plain hornet]

Okay

[subtle rune]

Yeah you don’t have enough troops yet

And also your squad load research isn’t full yet

[plain hornet]

No

[south ember]

You need more cars. I use around 20k per node but I have more squad load than you

You probably want around 200k

[subtle rune]

Better to just farm on lvl 1 or 2 until you get more train

[weary plover]

How did I make it 3/5 in the first place then haha :D

Anyway thanks for the help 👌

[south ember]

Either from low level nodes or partially finished ones. You might have sent squads to the same one a few times

[fresh seal]

hello.. do i know you?

[south ember]

He sent me a friend request and it's a new account. So probably a bot

[fresh seal]

i see

[plain hornet]

How are you doing on the game 🎮

[fresh seal]

who

[plain hornet]

Everyone

[fresh seal]

are you a bot

[plain hornet]

Ron4344

[alpine knoll]

😅

[fresh seal]

who is that

[plain hornet]

Really coolbewear

[alpine knoll]

?

really what

lol

[subtle rune]

Really coolbewear

[sage current]

CoolBear

[south ember]

Are there ron 0001-4343 as well?

[south ember]

CoolBearwear

[keen ruin]

So we all agreeing on adut skill should be 1423 ?

[alpine knoll]

yes

definitely

[fresh seal]

yes

[plain hornet]

No

[sharp aurora]

It means I messed up my Adut skills. I did 5511.

and Miya's 5151

[fresh seal]

its fine, do 4th skill next, don't waste skill reset

[plain hornet]

@fresh seal @darkbakcho dyt

[south ember]

felix going on daily boost soon🐳

[fresh seal]

leave me alone

[south ember]

Is he your bf or something?

[fresh seal]

stranger danger

[sage current]

Why does this discord specifically attract such strange people?

[south ember]

Maybe slim and sky bring them in

[fresh seal]

because strangers are danger

[dry grotto]

Hello guys

[sage current]

It's just so weird. Even other major official game discords don't have just people that come in, pick a person, say random smatterings of half words to them for a minute, then never show their face again.

[fresh seal]

😂 always happened

[south ember]

They probably have actual employees moderating their discord

Maybe some antibot features

[scarlet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-hi-hello-greet-wave-gif-16252038

[sharp aurora]

Now. I also need to know which Riders to focus on. Just tell me two among these - I have Elena, Bella, Sven & Cynthia. I have cat and mai too but can't upgrade their skills.

[south ember]

Felix elena is pretty strong

[south ember]

Of the 2 you have bella elena is best

[scarlet pewter]

Yes brother felix is mf high damage hero

[sharp aurora]

Then, I gotta have Felix from the next roulette.

Which one to leade between Elena and Felix? I appreciate your responses.

[south ember]

Felix

[sharp aurora]

My bad, I upgraded Bella upto level 59. I wish I should have asked first.

However, I haven't spent a single frag on her.

[south ember]

Bellas still very good. She was the best rider until a month ago

[scarlet pewter]

For rage i still keep her bro shes still beast

[thorn tusk]

Susah

[sage current]

See? Watch this person never say a single thing again in this discord. ^

[sharp aurora]

What now, Should I invest more into Bella or just switch to Felix and Elena?

[scarlet pewter]

If u dont have bella awake go for elena felix

[south ember]

Depends how far you are, awakened bella is gonna be much better than 5111 felix

[sharp aurora]

My Bella 1111 and I need two more frags for Felix.

To unlock him

[south ember]

I'd go for felix then

[sharp aurora]

I didn't know Rangers would cost me a lot. I should have discussed it. My Julia is 5515 and Louis 5511. They can't chase anyone on the field.

[sage current]

They shouldn't need to chase anyone. Everyone will chase them.

[fresh seal]

my adut is at 5 5 1 5, miyamoto at 5 1 1 1 , should i awaken adut or upgrade total 3 sets of skills for miyamoto then awaken adut, anyway saving for 4-5 months for a TC

[south ember]

Chasing fleeing ranged is the best.

[south ember]

You'll get more for cost upgrading miya

[abstract sentinel]

Hello

[fresh seal]

what does that mean?

[sharp aurora]

Indisputably, literally, everyone starts hitting Julia instead of Adut and Cynthia.

[fresh seal]

some regret after hitting julia

[south ember]

Frag cost increases a lot as you upgrade them. So the last for on adut can get you a lot more on miya instead

[sage current]

I've only encountered a few Julias I have regretted targeting first.

[south ember]

Why? She shouldn't have much counter dmg

[sage current]

It was a more tanky player overall than the surrounding players.

[sharp aurora]

It would cost you a total of 310 frags to upgrade her.

However, upgrading two more skills of your Miya completely would cost 320 frags.

I hope you have them enough.

[uncut badger]

😂

[nocturne hawk]

Guys is Eddie better than adut?

[sharp aurora]

I wanna know about Eddie as well. Which is the best field fighter Thunder, Riven, and Eddie?

[slim bluff]

All of them are bad for growing players

They dont have speed

Thats what others have told me

Doesn't matter if Riven has highest Infantry skill damage, shields and buffs

Doesn't matter if Eddie has massive counter damage and buffs

If you're a growing player you gonna trade 1:10 regardless
Thats what others say

Level 2th skill and wait 20 seconds to build up 44% atk

Or level 4th skill instantly get 40% atk when entering battle

Which one is the most obvious?

[keen ruin]

4?

[slim bluff]

Yes

[keen ruin]

Ok thnx ik what to do tomorrow then

[sage current]

2th and 4nd*

[fresh seal]

nah, been like 2weeks now i'm saving, just 70 so far, in about 4 months i should be having plenty

[sharp aurora]

better level up your VIP up to 13 as Sky mentioned. I'm gonna focus on that too now. It just gets easier to upgrade heroes when you receive 3 frags a day,

[finite charm]

My Adut is 5151 🤣 With Miya 5151 because I use them to hunt farmers

[fresh seal]

that's a dream, youll take forever to do that

f2p is pain

[fresh seal]

cynthia with speed honning and bella, but once i face another t5 i'm a gonner, no damage😂

i'm still in vip 9

[tired rose]

Is the server ded or just me?

[fresh seal]

58mil might

[sharp aurora]

I once purchased the growth fund and the premium gem subscription but right after one purchase, they doubled the amount.

[fresh seal]

just you

[fresh seal]

i just bought super monthly pass today and regret, like just 24k gems i'm getting, i'm too broke for growth fund yet

[wraith ridge]

VIP 6 is already too expensive for me

[fresh seal]

i don't work, next year i will, maybe i will spend abit to get the growth fund otherwise i have a long way to go for vip 11 too

[sharp aurora]

It's always worth the wait.

[wraith ridge]

Isn't extra builder good?

Growth fund looks like a lot of gems but only if lvl 25 so heh

[sharp aurora]

What if they bring something good for free as they just brought T2 blueprints? anyway, it's a wishful thinking.

[bitter forge]

[fresh seal]

its crap, i have nothing to upgrade, requires 2500 gems to upgrade a building from 24 to 25

[fresh seal]

possible, the AR glory shop was good, not pay 2 win at all

[sharp aurora]

exactly. I can't upgrade anything either. Everything stuck at level 24.

[fresh seal]

need to find those rich alliances where they open dozens of supreme chests but i just cant find one, will help with vip tickets too

[nocturne hawk]

[fresh seal]

and T3 blueprints from AR aswell was good, i got 12 prints rn

[sharp aurora]

Oh, i missed that T3 Blueprints. I have 12 too. haha. don't know when I'll be able to use them.

[fresh seal]

after 8 AR events, not sure IR will give

that will take a while😅

i hope there is IR next week, its boring to have no event, GW can be ignored its too boring to say

even the rewards are just crap

why does it even exist

[sharp aurora]

I know one. But I just got addicted to joining small alliances for free kills during events. It

It's less time-consuming to hit small players. Time is of the essence.

[fresh seal]

i'm just a 58mil might yet

[slim bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[sharp aurora]

I'm only 50

[fresh seal]

the thing with small alliances is you get the freedom to move around the maps, fight players and much better to spend time on when you are free. These big alliances keeps you in your shelter and once you get out you're a goner

[wraith ridge]

Would be better to get another research queue...

[fresh seal]

but easier to get to 80mil AR/IR points in big alliances by just rallying/garisonning

[fresh seal]

that's what came in my mind exactly😂

[fresh seal]

but it still depends on how strong your alliance member's heroes are, if they are way stronger then its alot easier to get points and fewer deaths/heavy injuries

i was tired of pvp last AR , 60-76mil points i got via rally in just a hour, enough for me as a 50mil player

[nocturne hawk]

Anyone having login problems?? The game is getting frequently disconnected.. every min

[hexed hamlet]

same

[sharp aurora]

Joining rallies against towers, shelters, and buildings costs troops. Other players have buffs stacked to preserve deaths. Moreover, spenders have subscriptions too.

[sharp aurora]

No, it's running smoothly. You might be facing some bandwidth or technical issue from your end.

[fresh seal]

but in low might alliances when it comes to garissoning , rallying towers and stuff, you're going to lose more troops than you would in high might alliances. I know of a few who experienced it, in a 19B alliance he lost less troops than the one he played in like 1-1.5B might alliance

[dusky river]

🇻🇪

[sharp aurora]

I agree. But fighting against T6 all the time is a disaster. I have only one T5 with around 10k troops.

[fresh seal]

yeah head on head or even touching t6 is your loss, rather stay back and join strong player's rallies and fight t6 in the watchtowers

[fresh seal]

long way to go at 50mil i had about 300k T5 infantries

rn i have all t5 unlocked, just keeping hold on t4 cars

[sharp aurora]

I have learned that having T1 cars is the ideal choice. haha

[fresh seal]

doesnt matter tho lol, just sitting there in the shelter always

not sure if ill get more points from upgrading cars from t4 to t5 or training more of other troops in TC

[wraith ridge]

In another game I'd agree but the higher tier cars bring bonus resources, so that's great.

[magic silo]

Also unlocks the all squad research which is very time efficient stat boosts to all your troop types.
It's worth rushing through t5 cars just for that

[deft cave]

traning all on thursday is always more efficient unless you have t6

[tacit marsh]

I think I found apple!!!

[deft cave]

then upgrading anything above t3 is more efficient. And if you don't have stuff to upgrade, better train t4s on thursday and upgrade friday

[south ember]

? We know where apple is already. He said when he moved to rok

[tacit marsh]

Yeah but I found his little whale behind in EC lol

[south ember]

have you found AriCei?

[tacit marsh]

I'm always with Ari

Ari is my boss and they constantly scold me for what I do in here... they apparently expect more out of me xD

[deft cave]

I have played in AR once

[sage current]

Find Ichigo and we find Ari

[south ember]

Fight more in ar. Get 1st in war meets war

[tacit marsh]

I'm kinda obvious... I have the same name and Pic lol

[sage current]

I don't know how to type the 1 on a phone.

[tacit marsh]

I can't fight more in ar... I'm usually top 50 but sooooo many dead..

Press and hold 1 till the options appear

[south ember]

1️⃣

[tacit marsh]

¹

[south ember]

1

[sage current]

Won

[magic silo]

Being a t5 whale is hard in a sea of t6 kraken

[tacit marsh]

Hey now... I'm no whale, just a tadpole.

Lmao

[compact cloud]

Now. I also need to know which Riders to focus on. Just tell me two among these - I have Elena, Bella, Sven & Cynthia. I have cat and mai too but can't upgrade their skills.

[latent parcel]

Developers and mods. For more than 2 months I can't remember playing bounty ground without loading issues. Some times, I would click a squad and then a superhero that stops time appears then I click translate in chat so that it can be reloaded. Because of this problem, I noticed that chat is a fast way to get it reloaded. Am tired of waiting for it to be solved

It must happen once at least per ground

[south ember]

Weird I never had that happrn.

[south ember]

Bella and elena

[subtle rune]

I know where Ari is 🫣🫣

[sage current]

canada?

[south ember]

France?

[tacit marsh]

Thats some bs... can't pick riven and Eddie for great hunter rewards, gotta be one or the other...

[south ember]

Why

[tacit marsh]

Gotta pick 1 tc hero and 1 roulette hero..

But I need both Eddie and riven...

[visual ore]

Whale problems

[tacit marsh]

Nu uh

[subtle rune]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141131

[tacit marsh]

Nope I just save

[subtle rune]

It would be pretty fun if all of us from Discord play on a event together lol

[south ember]

Pick 1 like everyone else

[subtle rune]

Like in the same alliance lol

[south ember]

Invade prim?

[tacit marsh]

Oh God.. than you'd see how insane I really am...

[tacit marsh]

I'm already there in the small prim xD

[subtle rune]

Where is Panda?

[tacit marsh]

Safeme got him

[subtle rune]

🥹🥹🥹

Safeme still in region 1?

[south ember]

I think he's back in 96

[south ember]

Small prim? The farm alliance?

[tacit marsh]

Yea

I have a farm there I forgot about cause I was talking smack in region chat and didn't wanna be followed back home. So it'll die there.

[south ember]

[tacit marsh]

Kinda sucks cause it has rss I could use lol

[south ember]

So bring it back? I doubt he's tracking everyone

[tacit marsh]

I might to be honest, but at the same time I'm scared, he could have a hit list like the Russian mob...

[scarlet pewter]

Imagine getting in same G with you all . I can sense that ar chat going to very pretty awesome

[south ember]

Idk fighting rok would be terrible

[tacit marsh]

Da heck you ignore me EC for sir?!?

[scarlet pewter]

Were we in same ec ?

[tacit marsh]

Ya you did that wave chicky emoji thing

[scarlet pewter]

Whats your ingame name 😂

[scarlet pewter]

😂😂 there was so much coming there what can i say