☕┊en-general-chat

[slim bluff]

But Eddie can use Skills talents trees from the likes of Adut or Miya just by being an assistan, its not like he cant...

[livid marten]

U can never win to sky

[feral quail]

So you use Eddie as assistant?

[slim bluff]

Well i personaly in my lineup i wouldnt
My Adut, Miya and Robert are busy
I would have to lead Bianca with Eddie when i unlock him

[feral quail]

Why are you promoting Eddie as assistant then lol, I personally wouldnt use eddie as an assistant either

[tired rose]

What’s the topic about im confuse?

[upper nymph]

Different topics

[feral quail]

I was just wondering if eddie is really better than adut or not

[upper nymph]

I'm asking one thing, and asking for other people's thoughts on thunder finishing vs getting Eddie/Riven

[livid marten]

Lmao

[livid marten]

Ditch thunder

[tired rose]

For f2p and low spender adut is better but when you gotta lead your alliance rally eddie win i guess

[upper nymph]

And this returns to another part of my question

When did this sudden change in thunder mentality come from, bard?

[slim bluff]

Thunder = Trash
Riven and Eddie = Good

[livid marten]

Are u the garrison player of ur alliance? If not better invest on heroes better at field fights.

[feral quail]

I 100% agree eddie is better for rally lead compared to adut

[upper nymph]

I'm new, and not in anything competitive yet lol

[slim bluff]

Since his release?

Thunder is just a hospital filler

[tired rose]

Nothing change whale still gonna use thunder cuz they can afford

[livid marten]

If u have him near in good shape. Its ok

[slim bluff]

Do you want to have 125k Wounded instead of 25k?

[upper nymph]

5/3/1/1 for thunder at the moment

[livid marten]

Explain nicely ffs 🤣

[upper nymph]

I have 200 frags coming from TC

So it's better spent on riven...?

[livid marten]

It's okay.

[tired rose]

Thunder still the best defending heroes if you are willing to pay for the cost

[slim bluff]

Riven not only has highest skill damge out of any infantry she also has shields and pretty chunky buffs
The skill damage and shields are unfair

[livid marten]

Not in field

[tired rose]

Field isnt defending tho

[slim bluff]

Riven = Raig shield but with Aduts damage and Eddies buffs

[livid marten]

The best..

[slim bluff]

Thunder = Worse Edward

[tired rose]

If you just want to defend your tower thunder still the best at making sure you it go down slowest

[livid marten]

Dont over exaggerate 🤣

[tired rose]

That’s why i said if you are willing to pay the price

[slim bluff]

best at having 10m wounded instead of 2m you mean

[tired rose]

Whale can afford not me

Im a range garrison peep

[livid marten]

Handcramps are u a whale

[tired rose]

Let me kill them or they kill me fast

If whale wanna burn their troops let them cuz it benefit me

[upper nymph]

I already spent more than I wanted to, and am trying to cut it back lol

That's all I can say

[livid marten]

Future whale then

Are u the new player who spent 16k arrows in my region’s tc? 🤣

[slim bluff]

Im not trolling just bcs Thunder heals more he is worse than Edward no joke
You would have less wounded with Edwards than you would with Thunder

[tired rose]

No whale can resist the healing pack after wars

[upper nymph]

I mean, depends on cost

[surreal smelt]

[upper nymph]

Im not too worried about a 5$ pack if it makes my life eaiser

[livid marten]

Its ok to invest on thunder if he is already otw

[upper nymph]

Then again, I haven't had to wait 1 day plus for healing

[slim bluff]

Stop using Thunder and that 5$ pack will apear 2 times less

[upper nymph]

So I can't relate 😔

[tired rose]

Last time the whale in my alliance just laugh it off at 28d healing

[upper nymph]

I have no illusions of being completive

[livid marten]

But u have him near right

[upper nymph]

I just want to be able to have fun in some midgame content

5/3/1/1. I would say 1/3 the way?

[tired rose]

Tbh the best way to have fun in war mode is to be in alliance near your power

[slim bluff]

1/3 the way to failure

[livid marten]

Bruh hahaha

[upper nymph]

I'm getting mixed signals here

[tired rose]

Last ar all 60-80m peep just gave up fighting cuz enemy is 250m 🥹

[upper nymph]

I don't expect to win anymore TCs

So this 200 frags will be my last major frag boost

[tired rose]

Enemy overall isnt better but that one guys alone can burn squad

[tranquil shale]

Iam having 2 thunder frags. This TC will add up one more.

[slim bluff]

Wont be any major frag boost if its used on Thunder

[livid marten]

I have 0 relics of him

[tired rose]

Im curious about you

[upper nymph]

@livid marten you agree with Skynet then?

[tired rose]

Do you have the same name ingame and last ar is on golden?

[slim bluff]

Everyone in their right mind would agree with me

[livid marten]

Different pov

[livid marten]

Shut up 🤣

[upper nymph]

I'm very aware of Skynet opinion, but trying to get opinion of other people to confirm. As mentioned, I'm still relatively new

So, ditch thunder at 5/3/1/1 and invest in Riven? 🤔

[slim bluff]

Well look what happend everyone listen to each other opinion on Thunder and they fkd up they got the most worthless hero ever

[tired rose]

Why not both

Didnt ari use thunder riven?

[livid marten]

I mean he was very useful before

[upper nymph]

😔

[livid marten]

Haha

[sage current]

Out of curiosity, what did you get your thunder to skill wise before you realized?

[slim bluff]

yea when people were still using mixed troops

[slim bluff]

5511

im never going to financially recover from that mistake

[sage current]

Would it bother you to know that I'm getting Thunder this TC?

Not you, replied to wrong person what

[tired rose]

My mistake is picking range as my main

I wont change my direction tho

[livid marten]

Tf that gotta do wt me🤣

[slim bluff]

It would me, my day will be ruined

[livid marten]

Its ok

[sage current]

I clicked right as the chat scrolled up and didn't notice and didn't feel like fixing it--was meant to be for sky

[sage current]

Oh. Well...

I'm actually going for Riven

[slim bluff]

Knowing that there are people out there still geting Thunder makes my sanity drain more than reading Slim messages

[upper nymph]

Blame panda

I followed his YT video for S class heroes lol

[livid marten]

HAHAHAHA

[upper nymph]

He ranked thunder 1

[sage current]

I think Thunder can be a useful hero in terms of the wider game, at an expense.

[livid marten]

im dead 🤣

[tired rose]

Panda is in different leagues so thunder is justified maybe?

They have load of troops to burn away just to hold the line

[livid marten]

In garrison before the new heroes, he was

[upper nymph]

I also asked what hero to get for last TC and everyone said thunder/riven even split

[livid marten]

I want this pinned 🤣

[upper nymph]

So based off that, I went with thunder 😳

I mean, I can definitely feel thunder impact for arena of doom

[tired rose]

He still good at what he’s doing

[upper nymph]

But again, I'm only 14 mill might and don't see myself getting competitive shape for a long time

[tired rose]

You dont use thunder to fight off a rally

[slim bluff]

Have you ever felt the impact where you have 125k wounded while the enemy has 25k?

[tired rose]

You use him to make your tower go down slowly and fight off on the field with others

[upper nymph]

No events thus far for me. No pompei/it/ar

So I can't relate to any of this yet

New region, new player 🫤

[livid marten]

You will get there.

Enjoy lah

[tired rose]

Pompeii is only 1 hrs no need for thunder imo

Just use dps garrison for faster score

[upper nymph]

Another miscellaneous question. While I don't expect to win next TC... Should I not bother upgrading my heroes now and save for the next one? (Ie parts, frags, etc)

[tired rose]

You have anyone you want?

[upper nymph]

I know the competition next TC will be nuts

Not sure of what the hero pool looks like next TC

[tired rose]

Tbh idk it will be nuts

[slim bluff]

Thunder in a nutshell #🦸┊hero-n-armaments message

[tired rose]

Ppl already burn their resources on unfantry

[sage current]

If you don't need to use them before next TC, might as well save the upgrading to make it easier to get the phase rewards at the very least.

[livid marten]

Why wont u? Roulette heroes and some in daily boost is worth upgrading slowly

[upper nymph]

All the super high might people been saving and waiting

[tired rose]

They actually didnt

[livid marten]

For bard?

[tired rose]

Since they max all heroes they just use speed up on ar/ir

[upper nymph]

Hmm. I guess the whales already maxed out their heroes

[tired rose]

Also alliance league

[upper nymph]

So worth saving for a chance? 🤔

[tired rose]

Tbh bard is a high investment

[upper nymph]

Delayed gratification at its best 😳

[livid marten]

Who do u want

[slim bluff]

Only 150m+ can make use of Bard tbh

[upper nymph]

I want it all 😜

[livid marten]

Seems like u want every tc heroes

[upper nymph]

I probably do

[tired rose]

It didnt stop at awaken you know

Armaments is big part

[upper nymph]

I heard armaments is the real cost

[livid marten]

If u can afford it then go for it ^^

[upper nymph]

I could afford it, I just don't want to

[tired rose]

Become infantry whale first then

[upper nymph]

I can't validate spending this much on this game lol

[tired rose]

And when your team is stable you can expand to range/raider

Why rush to get all heroes now if you cant use them effectively anyway

[upper nymph]

I like a sense of progress

[tired rose]

[livid marten]

Pump the tech

[upper nymph]

Used to games where if I grind efficiently, I come out on top

Spending 7 hours farming for a rare legendary drop in New World 💀💀💀

[tired rose]

Even if you whale hard it gonna take year to compete with old whale

[upper nymph]

Just for an extra 1.5 percent healing output for war lol

[tired rose]

Well if you arent in 4-5b+ alliance you should be fine i guess

Since i did and 250m pop up on enemy side to ruin everyone day😂

[tame wasp]

Got a question, is DS still in new region or gone gonee

[sage current]

gone

[tame wasp]

Sad

Only got to taste 2 dark seals but it was against ZRS so half of me want it back but half of me dont

[sage current]

No idea what that means. I personally didn't find DS enjoyable.

[tame wasp]

Chatting was fun

Wasnt fun when Nom stomps your region though

[thick plume]

watched 1 afk guy kill a bunch of riders in bounty 😆

[tired rose]

I still never to have a fun experience in ir

😂

Personally i think it’s too long with no break

At least in ar the break is when you port back to heli or any secure area

[digital basin]

AR atleast has gates to give you break but IR just throws you into the lava pit

[thick plume]

every rider players enjoy it

[digital basin]

This should be a two day event knowing how any clan can get helipaded on first 2 days😂

[thick plume]

try farm killing even if you don't like it just to make everyone else not have fun

[sage current]

Even farm killing is boring. Spend 15 minutes to get to some farms only to have them go inside right as you get there, spend 15 minutes going home, repeat.

[thick plume]

oooh yeah, but sometimes you get those weak ones trying to swarm you and dies

[sage current]

I guess if you're lucky enough to be against the right people.

[mystic scaffold]

You switched the first skills by accident.

[slim bluff]

Witch one?

[mystic scaffold]

The first comparison

Adut has def and Eddie shield

[slim bluff]

Oh the names, your right my bad

[mystic scaffold]

No worries.

I think Adut main advantage over Eddie is her speed which in combination allows miya and adut to be faster than many riders.

For combat i would prefer eddie

Adut is only field while Eddie works rally and field

[feral quail]

should I awaken miyamoto first or eddie first

[tacit marsh]

Ad I just saw for the game makes it seem like a mobile pubg battleground with zombies rofl

[magic silo]

Bounty ground

[magic silo]

Eddie has a lot more value in the awaken skill. Miya is still very strong without being awakened

[oblique lava]

[feral quail]

Oke doke thanks eddie next

[nocturne hawk]

I wonder why the Canada emoji isn't allowed in game news

[scarlet seal]

Everyone is used to those games only this game is the exception and thats on the devs luckily vast majority of games reward grind and efficiency

[devout needle]

Not most mobile games

[scarlet seal]

I know true this is my first mobile game but mobile games are very new to gaming market and largely forgotten

[devout needle]

No they aren't

[scarlet seal]

Most true gamers play Xbox ps5 and pc

[devout needle]

Wrong

[scarlet seal]

Yes they do. I play xbox and pc competitively no one plays mobile games

[devout needle]

Alot of people play mobile

[scarlet seal]

Mobile games are not skill based so there is little incentive to play them

[devout needle]

You are delusional

[scarlet seal]

Women do yes and older retired people when they don't have skill to compete vs real gamers

[devout needle]

You are clueless

[scarlet seal]

We are allowed to have opinions

[devout needle]

It's not an opinion

[livid marten]

Ey slim in da house

[devout needle]

Your wording it as fact

[scarlet seal]

Keep spending $ on mobile games man enjoy your time while the rest of us make a name of our selves and build a community on a wide scale in real gaming platforms like steam and Microsoft game pass

[devout needle]

Okay

[livid marten]

AAAAA HAHAHAA

[devout needle]

Your literally on this mobile game are you a retired woman?

[livid marten]

What’s up with women gotta do with it lol

[devout needle]

He said it

[devout needle]

He's stupid

[livid marten]

Tsktsktsk

[scarlet seal]

This is my first mobile game as the industry is slowly growing I wanted to jump in and be an early adopter of mobile to see what the fuss was about

[devout needle]

You are saying mobile games are a new genre

[livid marten]

This whole conversation is sending me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[devout needle]

You are just yapping because you are clueless

[devout needle]

Mobile industry is massive you can say pc industry is growing that doesn't mean you are an early adopter

Go to a mental asylum

[scarlet seal]

Mobile industry is growing due to convenience and ease of entry and mobile games are cheap to make a guy in a basement can make an app and upload it as a 3rd party open source for people to buy

[livid marten]

Slim are you gonna agree with this

[scarlet seal]

It has 0 emphasis on skill so demand for mobile games is shown to come from members of society who aren't true gamers and rather rely on $ or access to quick mindless fun

[devout needle]

What is your point there's well over a billion mobile gamers early adopter 🤣🤣🤣

[scarlet seal]

Real gamers who still want to demonstrate ability play on consoles and pc market which always has and will be the main draw for video gamers

[devout needle]

Bus driver for the short bus in this chat teaching us

[devout needle]

I don't remember asking

[rich hamlet]

Name me 1 game you have actually played competitively. With your attitude towards other people there is no way you have ever competed at a high level

[full grotto]

Slim back at it again

[devout needle]

Mentally impaired

[iron pumice]

1888877642

[fast radish]

Hello, what did I miss?

[livid marten]

A hysteria

[tired rose]

How many explorer hammers i need to get the real reward?

[sage current]

4 minimum

[tired rose]

[sage current]

Oh wait no, 16 minimum I think

So, between 16 and 480

[bronze lion]

Hi All, When is might race...

[fast radish]

What is the best doomsday account here

[sand saddle]

That would be @scarlet seal

[magic silo]

I mean I actually think this is at least partly true, but the context is making it sound dumber than it is.
Gamers are going to be drawn to games. Your traditional gamer is in a lot of cases not going to stick with these mobile p2w games long.
But like what's the point of this statement even?
Mobile games are lucrative and popular and appeal to a wide audience

[magic silo]

Usually comes after TCs

[hushed pewter]

Quelqu'un parle français !?

Speak french ?

[magic silo]

Si tu veut #français-french-chat-room

[heavy linden]

Hlo

[sage current]

I wish when they removed the kills from TC, they cut the challenge phase to 1 day. It's basically now just a day of anxiously hoping nobody decides to buy a bunch of arrows.

[scarlet seal]

Not much to do considering most of the points come from research and construction which get used in phase 1 there isn't a legit way to gain points last phase

Zombie and hives and resources are 2M max in whole 3 days so challenge phase has the lowest points and no movement

[rich hamlet]

You can easily earn 2.5-3m a day from collecting resources

[tired rose]

I always hate how this trade event work

If you put a request and no one took your offer that item kinda gone

[alpine knoll]

no it gets returned after like 30 mins

you get a mail about it

[tired rose]

Yeah i know but 30 mins took forever so you cant just repost the offer until i get it back

[alpine knoll]

yea

[sage current]

It should be returned after 1 minute or less with the speed of the spam channel--nobody is scrolling back hundreds of messages to trade with you.

[tired rose]

1 minute should be enough since no one scroll that chat up to click everything

[alpine knoll]

i have before

[celest minnow]

Anyone can confirm:

Game assistant and DLS live chat both confirmed this but many players are not sure and say that the Island Raid rules say otherwise:

For Island Raid Qualifications: Is it the Top 8 alliances or Top 5?

I know that AR is the Top 5.

Game assistant and DLS Live chat both confirmed that for Island Raid it is Top 8...

[gilded laurel]

The rules in the IR page is top 5, same as pompeii and AR

[celest minnow]

It wont let me upload screenshots here but 2 different live chat agents confirmed it being Top 8.

And the last agent after i said that the event description says top 5 says this:

"Sorry about that. The only changes made for the island raid were number of active alliances members. Please refer to the update notes that were sent via mail in-game May 07"

[abstract crater]

Any regional event like ds will coming in future?

[wind yew]

I think it is top 8

im pretty sure they said that when they re-released IR

[high pike]

Can we get back the killing troops score for TC please? What’s the farmers need the TC heros for??? Farming potatos?

[wind yew]

^^^

[gilded laurel]

You'll be able to see whether you can register at 0000h. Then you have 1 day to sort it out 😆

[remote bough]

Isn't the new cross-region mode we getting a replacement for DS?

[alpine knoll]

seems it

[celest minnow]

Oh, ill be able to register, thats not the issue. Im pres in region, and i was trying to help out the other clans in organizing themselves and making sure we can get as many players participating as we can 🙂

[celest minnow]

Hey brooo, long time no see! Hope youre doing well.

Yeah thats how IR has always been, but their event rules say otherwise, quite confusing

[wind yew]

Sometimes they forget to update rules or fk sht up I mean they had it in AR rules that 3 rallies was max or something yet you had 5+ rallies hammering a tower at a time

[celest minnow]

True 😂 AriCei was saying something similar in other chat room. Patch notes are just inconsistent and they put all their rules and regulations in so many random different spots, they probably forget themselves

[rapid hound]

Guys, when you immigrate to a new region, can you take rewards for Top Commander?

[little fog]

only the phase rewards for the first 3 days

[scarlet seal]

this is wrong lol kididng me

no you cant, you get 45,000 points per level 6 node x 4 gatherers out on the field + 1 AuTO Hive as standard.. to complete a node 6 with T4 cars takes 2 hours.. so every 2 hours you make 45,000 points per squad x 4 farming squads = 180,000 points per 2 hours of farming.. so 90k an hour.. at most perfect cycling you will be farming for 14 hours per day (the rest is sleeping and being afk) 14hrs x 90k points = 1.26 M as the upper celing what you can make a day using just harvesting

BOOM that is how experts break down the game, i just hear people throwing random thoughts together no one actually does the math like mix maxers like me do

[dusk loom]

Hi

[gaunt sapphire]

Hi

[final gale]

Auto hive is worthless if you want to focus on events and besides once you max out on the buildings victory badge and outpost toolbox become useless. I have 8,7k badge never even tried joining hive 21k toolbox they should let us exchange these

But then again who am i to say, of course the one and only slim is representing the entire playerbase

[tacit marsh]

I wish they would let us exchange it... I have the 5 or 5.5k whatever it is for bc 25, but I have over 7k now and was hoping I could exchange them later...

[final gale]

Agreed

The exchange event rate has been horrible they should add more stuff in now

[tacit marsh]

It has been bad, I always end up with left over junk and nothing to really spend it on. I'm also starting to accumulate more stuff I won't ever use.

I imagine you all who are further along have a ton of stuff you don't use and can't do anything with.

[magic silo]

Your math literally demonstrates its possible.
Also wait til you hear about skills that give you bonus rss on return, and higher tier cars that also give bonus rss, all which contribute to your points.
And a maxed alliance will do rss reaping at least 1 time. And with armaments you can clear a 6 node in more like 1.5-1.75 hours.
You can also stack up a bunch from alliance center the day before and get 2m immediately at reset tbh

[rich hamlet]

It feels good when everyone just proves my point for me @scarlet seal

Please don’t call yourself an expert again and get better at maths.

[magic silo]

Also yeah if you're going for TC points, or even just generally, hives are terrible return on time/stamina.
Hunt zombies for 10m til out of stamina, then farm with 5 squads.
You can make 216k points per gathering cycle.
Even if it takes you 2h, its just over 1M points per 10.
When you sleep use alliance center and put 4 out.
You can easily get 2m gathering points in the first day with a tiny bit of diligence

[devout needle]

You are stupid

[livid marten]

What a good day to see slim triggering people again 🤣

[livid marten]

Ur killing me 🤣

[scarlet seal]

wow the pompeii new times is a troll job right?

03:00-4:00 UTC? That is what 10 or 11 pm at night in North America? And it runs through to 19:00 UTC which is still early afternoon early mornings in North America.. thats where your core audience is

you cant make Pompeii middle of the night thats stupid no one cares about minor Asian markets honestly they need to cater to North America like other major game studios is kinda sad to see this focus on Asia

[scarlet seal]

Bro yes YOU who have maxed out badges etc but that is a tiny % of the population, the average player isnt interested in maxing it all out and wont stay for 1 YEAR+ to collect all the 25 war building badges or whatever the thousands you need, no one will do that.. The key to this game is how early to mid game shapes out because that is what keeps people not end game.. my tutorials, my suggestions my advice is centered around players who are not at 25 HQ and who do not want to compete at end game 1 year away its aimed at players who are 4 -8 weeks in like me and who want advice from a current player not a old timer veteran

[scarlet seal]

So how does the math work on that? 5 squads hunting zombies with no 2x or 5x? Just 5 squads? Average zombie gives 2k in points so 10k per kill and you can do that 10 times that 100k per 10 times.. it will take you 100 times doing this which will take an hour to get 1 M points

sure if you spend 2 hours hunting zombies you can get 1M point, BUT is that worth your time? 2 hours in game is huge and for 1M points when to stay on top of TC boards you need to make 5M a day in phase 6 to keep you spot

[magic silo]

Imagine still thinking Asia is a "minor market" in an Asian game..

[scarlet seal]

its not an Asian game tho, its just made by Singapore based company but its tailored to Western Audience

[livid marten]

Minor asian markets 😭

[scarlet seal]

asian players dont like zombie games, they arent good at these types of games - these types of games are consumed by North American audience

[livid marten]

No wonder its asian dominated game

You’re killing me 🤣🤣🤣

[scarlet seal]

no its not, i keep telling people its not.. i am a white guy and this suits me perfectly i dont understand how this is an Asian game all the characters are white all the subject matter is Western etc nothing about it is Asian even the graphics arent Asian in my opinion

[livid marten]

A typical white guy would say

[scarlet seal]

but to have Pompeii times like they just released FAVORES the Asian time slot

look at the Pompeii schedule how is that fair? think about it cause i thought about it

[magic silo]

Your average zombie should be giving you 3k to 3.8k. So conservatively 15k points each, and costs average 200 stamina total. That's like 8 zombies for 120k points. Extremely doable in 10 minutes. Then go gathering again.
If you push zombies with stamina cans you can get around 1M points in an hour pretty easily. Without any multipliers.

[mortal pebble]

Even Mai Shiranui looks Eurasian. She has sharp features and big eyes lol

[magic silo]

This is literally just racist..

[livid marten]

Eurasian lmao

[magic silo]

And how many points you need is incredibly variable by region and which TC heroes it is.

[scarlet seal]

gona have to try this, perfect time to test it with 12 hours left in TC

[magic silo]

Just go for level 28-30 zombies with 5 squads.
I will admit it's more difficult to do marathons without being stronger, but you can just empty stamina then go back to gather very easily.

[tacit marsh]

Someone needs to go beat that Boi over the head with a stick of salami...

Or at least tell his mom she didn't smack him hard enough as a child...

[final gale]

Ya know i read igg yearly report document, yeah most of the income here comes from asia.

[scarlet seal]

Thats crazy.. doesnt make sense where is the money coming from in Asia tho

[final gale]

Bro literally biggest players here is korean and Chinese

[scarlet seal]

All the gaming was started in North America like if you think about it all the top gaming companies the essence of video gaming the culture its all North American based

[final gale]

😂

[scarlet seal]

Asia has comics, Asia has animie, nintendo, and sony

[final gale]

You're really dropped on the head aren't you

Look up ROK and BOON

2/3 of the biggest clan is asians

[scarlet seal]

i know i saw that, its weird to me that Koreans are top in this game

[final gale]

Well then you just contradict what you said

[scarlet seal]

i understand that but that is not standard its kinda crazy i dont see the appeal to Asians again i didnt think they would care for games like this or be good at them

point is IGG is in Asia and it seems most of $ is from Asia too

i just dont understand why Asian culture accepts gaming when everything i Know about Asia is all about education, school, control etc

China restricts your video game time, China promotes education and parents wantt high grades they dont want their kids playing video games

Asians in general where is the luer of video gaming? In North America kids have way more free time then in Asia they have access to top internet, we have money to buy games here, high salaries etc

[final gale]

You really see the world in a very small perspective

[rich hamlet]

Does he ever stop talking rubbish?

[final gale]

Coming from an asian here

[rich hamlet]

Man knows nothing about the game or the world

[final gale]

Japanese and koreans are one of the most serious gamers

[scarlet seal]

how are Asians affording gaming on MASS i get there is some rich people in big cities but Asian in general look at GDP of countries across the board and median salaries are pennies on the dollar compared to North America

[final gale]

Real

😅

[mortal pebble]

Bro stop, I'm American too.

[scarlet seal]

One explanation is that games are cheaper in countries

[magic silo]

What do you even mean by this?

[mortal pebble]

Japanese and Koreans are heavy Spenders.

[final gale]

Bro I'm asian

[scarlet seal]

maybe the cost of games and currency is lower in different countries

[final gale]

I pay the same sht

[magic silo]

Jfc dude time to sit down, you're way out of your element here. Get out more

[final gale]

And I'm paying 800-1000$ sometimes

I'm saying you're very disrespectful

[tacit marsh]

As a Canadian we get robbed 😂😂

[final gale]

Just because we got lower GDP doesn't mean everyone live in poverty dumbass

[magic silo]

You ever consider maybe it's because you don't actually know anything about it?

[scarlet seal]

look i ddnt mean to be disrepsectful i was just voicing my thoughts and i learned that Asian community is dominant here

i learned that IGG makes a lot of money from Asia if i didnt ask i wouldnt know

[final gale]

I'm not even from chinese and korean which is one of the biggest economies I'm Indonesian

[magic silo]

You didn't ask. You made really ignorant assumptions and presented them as facts.

[scarlet seal]

again i appologize i am not a beligerant person

[tacit marsh]

Bro doesn't realize that like 80% of the gaming industry is owned by Chinese companies lol

[scarlet seal]

it sucks to be ganged up on

[final gale]

Real that's why i got a bit triggered

[tacit marsh]

Then stop talking stupid out of that mouth.

[final gale]

Mobile games really is very dominantly chinese companies

Very different market than PC games

[scarlet seal]

Why do Asian commnities perfer mobile gaming to PC gaming

[magic silo]

Yeah I'm pretty forgiving of ignorance, education is hard, but the way he said it just illustrated his really narrow lil bit racist world view. Was a bit much

[digital basin]

ask the asians

[tacit marsh]

It's not even just mobile, if you look at the companies with the most shares even for console and pc games, they are owned in some way by Chinese companies now.

[final gale]

Idk, for me since hs all my friends just plays mobile games

[magic silo]

And the stuff about it not being in the culture or whatever is just wild.
Like most of the biggest esports are far more popular in and dominated by Asian countries across the board.

[final gale]

Yeah they own a lot of shares on the game industry now, Chinese - Japanese - koreans

[livid marten]

Whats ur problem with us 😭

[scarlet seal]

i meant the players of Asia no asian people i ment i was surprised how much of this game was consumed by asian players

because the pompeii times came out and it clearly favores that type of the world

[livid marten]

U said earlier the minor markets was asian and now ur saying the game is consumed by asians

[scarlet seal]

because everyone said so - it appears mobile games is huge in Asia

[tacit marsh]

He's American, what do you expect?

[livid marten]

💀

[tacit marsh]

I'm sorry to all the Americans except slim, f that guy.

[scarlet seal]

Canadians have one of the highes gamers per capita on the planet

canada has like 40 million people but a huge % of their youth and adults play video games

perhaps because of the weather? If you stay inside more you tend to consume electornics and movies at a higher rate

[livid marten]

Bruh what

Maybe because we are not dumb like u hun

[tacit marsh]

You mean the sunny 72+ degree weather we've been having for over a couple months now? Ya

[scarlet seal]

Where in Canada

[tacit marsh]

Ontario lol

[scarlet seal]

Leafs got blown out by Bruins

[tacit marsh]

Who?

[scarlet seal]

Shanny fired the head coach

[tacit marsh]

Oh... hockey? Yeah I don't follow sports

[scarlet seal]

yah hockey! oh wow not a hockey fan eh but in Canada i get it

[tacit marsh]

Too busy trying to your mom to leave after that one night...

[scarlet seal]

one of the top things i learned is zombie hunting is way more effective than hives during TC

8 zombies = 120k points you can do that 10 times you made your self a MILL

[livid marten]

A MILFF? 🤣

[scarlet seal]

i had one back when i was 29

[tacit marsh]

Your mom doesn't count slim...

[scarlet seal]

she was 34 so 5 year difference, was an amazing experience

[tacit marsh]

Sweet home Alabama

[scarlet seal]

drove out 1 hour, came in she was ready for me.. stayed for 2 hours doing it all over the room.. i left right after when her son was on the way from school he was 17 if i recall.. i texted her next day.. radio silence

oh well it was a great afternoon so one for the record books

[livid marten]

Boi stfu 🤣

[scarlet seal]

you said Milfff so i told you my story i had it already

aint nothing i havent tried

[shrewd slate]

Yo

[jagged spoke]

Hello

[rich hamlet]

Do you even know if the new times are good for that side of the world? Do you know the time differences?

[river tundra]

It's more to the people. Asian have more people than most of European and other continent

This is why you see many Asian play game than other continent

[subtle rune]

Asia just a bigger that why it seem that way

[astral kite]

Hi

[hasty swan]

T7 is coming?

[devout needle]

Who dropped you on your head?

[tranquil shale]

He is like a frog in the well.

[south scarab]

uhhhh guys this is my dad's phone I didn't know he has discord-

[full grotto]

Man your stupidity hurts physically

[south scarab]

💀

[sleek fox]

Hello guys .. i want to ask what difference between ( squad attack/ squad dmg / basic attack dmg/ counter attack/ counter dmg ) i am kinda confused! 😔

[nocturne hawk]

Can Anyone tell me what this is? It happened to me a few months ago and now it's happening to one of my players

A yellowish light radiating across the screen. Almost like what happens when there's fighting near your shelter

[full grotto]

feel free to correct me if im wrong,
my guess would be that this yellowish light means someone on his way to scout your HQ or troops

red = youre getting attacked, blue = your allies are sending troops to your hq (rallye etc)

[nocturne hawk]

I appreciate you but Nah it's not highlighting edges. I wish I could send the video. It almost looks like northern lights of yellow waving across screen

I sent you the video

[full grotto]

ooh i saw someone posting a video about this a while ago..kinda looked like a sandstorm yeah?

[west tulip]

If it only happens when you're in the shelter, it could be from the alliance markers. I've seen it a few times.

[jaunty spade]

It’s cheaper than buying a gaming PC and you can carry it around anywhere

[nocturne hawk]

Nah it's all over the place it's super weird

[jaunty spade]

It’s a bug when you zoom it the screen faster near the alliance’s marker

• zoom in

[nocturne hawk]

Very nice thank you 👏

[rapid hound]

When you migrate to a new region, can you get the TC rewards?

[full grotto]

After the restriction is over, yes

[rapid hound]

so 30 days after?

[full grotto]

Yep

[spark arch]

It takes a person without an alliance with 30+ million power to destroy an aggressive alliance

[full grotto]

You cant participate in rankings such as AoD, TC etc during the restriction

[mortal pebble]

I ranked 56 in TC and i immigrated today before TC ends. will i still get the rewards?

[full grotto]

Not sure, i didn't migrate during TC ranking while being ranked yet.
Are you still ranked?

[mortal pebble]

Not anymore.

My ranking was gone immediately after I migrated

[full grotto]

I guess you won't get the rewards then

[mortal pebble]

Okay

[barren cloak]

Where do we get the music festival zombies we need to rally.... I can't seem to find anything about where we find them

[nocturne hawk]

@jaunty spade @jaunty spade radar

[sage current]

In the event page, there is a "!" button next to the event title which tells you more information.

[barren cloak]

But I've only had festival zombies i can battle myself in the radar

[nocturne hawk]

And if your talking the belting hunters they're in the event interface and you have to raise the green bar until one is available

[nocturne hawk]

I did not mean to tag you my bad dk how that happened

[barren cloak]

Melody challenge > day 4 > rally hunting

[jaunty spade]

Festival zombie is from the festival event. Click the event tab - click the top left option to see the requirements to get that festival zombie

[jaunty spade]

@nocturne hawk this one

[barren cloak]

Ah ok thanks guys..... I've Done my 5 challenges in festive arena got 572 points but still says not ranked

[jaunty spade]

It’s okay. I already replied your message

[prime trellis]

Everyone here is afraid of bard too? 🤣🤣

[livid marten]

Afraid for?

[prime trellis]

I see all the youtubers who say that he absolutely must be nerfed while I think that you can beat him easily

[sage current]

I personally think nobody has played with him yet.

[livid marten]

Im just here for lynne lol

[sage current]

I'm considering lynn myself. I was going to get Chun next roulette but lynn seems a little better for what I do

[prime trellis]

Ah I feel reassured then, I'm not the only one who doesn't see Bard in a living god 😅

[sage current]

He does look like a good rally hero, but I don't think he's wildly beyond other rally heroes.

It will probably seem like it at first because the first people to get him will be the people who can invest to awaken and have top notch armament immediately.

[prime trellis]

Don't underestimate him either, so far I have only found 2 combos that can beat him with equivalent stats

[livid marten]

People would still use him anyways

[proven elk]

Kris has the best hero rally

[prime trellis]

For me this is going to be the most devastating combination for rallying for a while.

[proven elk]

I would apologize if she cheated on me

[empty finch]

Hallo

[tired rose]

Time for raider garrison then

[prime trellis]

Yes I also think that these will be the next heroes who will come out

[devout needle]

It sucks you are so stupid too

[nocturne hawk]

Happy mothers day everyone!!

[cosmic orchid]

does anyone know how many vinyls you need to reach/get lvl 25 gift in Music Party?

[sage current]

Probably about 50 more than you'll get.

[cosmic orchid]

haha! true!

[sage current]

That's how it worked for me last time, at least. This time I'm going to kind of try and see if I can get it though, because for only 0 gems you get all the 7k gem stuff if you get to at least 24

[tired rose]

Im seriously thinking of burning my stamina tmr cuz it gonna be damn hard to hunt zombies in ir

🥹

Why cant ir be 1-2 days event

[cosmic orchid]

I won't even buy until I reach lvl24... looks like a good marketing catch... I have only 250 vinyl collected yet... some ppl used 200 to get lvl11...

[bold plume]

anyone know how much vinyls can i get from all the vinyl party packs and how many pack there is

[mild pecan]

G

[gentle garnet]

Hi

[abstract crater]

Am i will lose rank on music festival if going migration today?

[solid fractal]

Anyone wanna come join my alliance in region 520 I'm looking for active members the actually chat and help out name of alliance is Most Wanted Assassins

[magic silo]

#1106157611595870289

[ripe timber]

Lol

[nocturne hawk]

Happy Father's Day

[faint marsh]

Ahmed

[sour field]

Hola alguien que me pueda ayudar ?

[faint marsh]

@nocturne hawk

[nocturne hawk]

Yes?

[modern torrent]

You don't need all. 1 x 4.99, 1 x 9.99, 1 x 49.99, 2 x 99.99

That should get you lvl 25 to collect all rewards

[pure hazel]

👍🇲🇦

[proven elk]

Are there any codes that still work?

[modern torrent]

Most if not all have expired

[granite idol]

What do people's alliances do before pairings? Is there anything that actually works??

[ionic rose]

i use all my good karma i saved up and pray. and when that doesnt work i just.. suffer! 😊

[shadow blaze]

i did a callculation how many vitory badges you get from killing a hive mind

wanted to share with you my little experiment with hiveminds.
for the last 31 days i killed 378 hiveminds, 3, 4 and 5 lv. all for statistic purpose.
for all these hives i received 466 victory badges witch gives 1.232 badge for hive.
you welcome 🙂

[wind yew]

I mean yeah and no isnt it just random drop rate

your drop rate might be 1.2 but someone else might just get a flat 2 drop rate if their luck is great

[sage current]

The numbers are more fun when you factor in time.

[shadow blaze]

yeah...i agree...numbers can change over a time....

[sage current]

No, I mean when you consider the time the hives take.

[shadow blaze]

aaa....i didnt take time in to account

i can only suggest you guys do small test, it was acctualy fun to record it everyday 🙂 and share it wuth us

maybe moderator can pin the post so we can all have a look i couple of weeks and see 🙂

[jaunty spade]

If you have gems, better to spend it on Victory Badges / outpost toolbox.
It’s really a pain in the azz to get it manually from hiveminds or zombies

[prime cypress]

Zombies are ok only boring to do... The hive is fcking long to do and expensive in stamina

• we have a Russel event to help with the outpost toolbox.. not like Victor badge

Victor roulette 🤢

• Chance of having relics => /2 (compared to TC roulette)
• 2x turns possible than in TC
• 50% More tokens in the packs

Really don't spend your money to get 1/6 of the relics needed to awaken the hero

[nocturne hawk]

No

In cell phone games money does everything, if you don't have money don't complain.

[jaunty spade]

That’s why people needs to spend gems for VB & OT .
Unless they want to spend the rest of their life to get it

[hollow sinew]

Does reducing mights in alliance really works to have a fair match in events such as AR or IR?

[jaunty spade]

Imho, it’s useless because of other alliances do the same thing and in the end, the result is the same

[hollow sinew]

Right? HAHAHA it doesn't make sense that they are asking us to remove armaments

Maybe it will work if they do it way before registration imo. I dunno either

[rich hamlet]

Wouldn’t reducing might to try to get easier matches “fair matches” make matches unfair?

[hollow sinew]

That I don't know either.

Also, "fairness" is a bit hard during those events since everyone wants to win. They will probably do everything to have an edge.

That is why I am asking either

[rich hamlet]

Well I mean if people remove armaments and get matched up against people of that new strength, then they put their armaments on (which would make them stronger) that would be unfair

[torpid hemlock]

ppl who spam the invite to rally button are the worst

[wind yew]

I'm glad it's not just me who feels this LOL

[upper nymph]

should I be requesting rallies for the zombie prowler event?

seems like a waste of stamina for my alliance team members (only rank D)

[tawny imp]

WHY I am always disconnected and need to log in? Just 4 hours ago, I got kicked out 3x already....

Always disconnected. 🥴😡

[thick plume]

it's ok, rank doesn't change rally reward. If theyre lucky, it gives purple resource pack

[upper nymph]

seems like the stamina cost picks up like crazy

im up to level 36 and wondering if I should be inviting people tho

seems easier and quicker to just do it myself

[native bone]

Hola

[thick plume]

if your alliance is active, you get a ton of staminas back from alliance gifts so yeah

still up to you though

[upper nymph]

yeah they're super active. I thought there'd be an incentive to rush to 40

but doesnt seem like there is.... 🤔

[flint wolf]

I did something similar earlier this year.
My main takeaway is to secure higher tier rewards to get more VBs per drop. Getting Tier 10 rewards for killing lv4 & 5 gives 5 per drop, drop rate around 30-40% does not differ between different levels of hivemind killed nor tier rewards received.
In terms of saving time, kill hiveminds with the help of farms in zone 2 helps. The main kills lv5, other farms can kill lower levels. This also allows you to secure high tier rewards (contribute 80% or more damage) without others interrupting😄

[feral quail]

anyone knows when phoenix skin will drop

[flint wolf]

I personally will do it until I can't. And then farm with my farms which I don't mind if they can't complete all forty zombies.

[upper nymph]

TC is every two weeks right

having massive delayed gratification issues - I just got a bunch of frags I can pump up riven with 😮‍💨

[charred cradle]

Hello

[mystic scaffold]

Hey

[thick plume]

keep on missing the 60 badge caches :c

o/

[visual forge]

hi {WiHe} #507 WickedHellraisers is recruiting active alliance looking for active members, if interested message me Brand new region so many rewards and events coming up so join our family 🥰 top 3rd in alliance might

[pine parrot]

Hiii I want to change my alliance
This my Id

1882505212

Plz message

[pine parrot]

I want to join
But I don't know how to join u.
Plz help

[visual forge]

What's your gamer id number and I'll add you

[pine parrot]

@visual forge 1882505212

aakash8849

[visual forge]

Ok I messaged you on the game

[pine parrot]

Ok

[magic silo]

What a tragic point of view

[magic silo]

You should only join other rallies though, or you get nothing.
And then it's only worth using vaccine and waiting if other people want the rewards.
We used to all rally eachothers from 1-40, but now there's way too many things trying to get our stamina and people are bored of the event.
We mostly just solo kill now.

The rss drops are really nice from the rallies though

[tacit marsh]

[magic silo]

[fast radish]

Hi

[tired rose]

The way i do it is solo until 25 then rally other while request help on mine

[burnt nova]

just wondering, if some top 5 alliance click register for IR, but then dropped out of top 5 before reset, does it still register them?

[burnt nova]

🤣 even people with money complain about matching and frequency of p2p events, so what does that say about the game?

[lyric geode]

Hello, does anyone have a redeem code?

[final gale]

I don't think so

[burnt nova]

wouldn't this provide a loophole to register as many alliances as someone wants? eg, split a 180 member alliance into 10 farm alliances

[final gale]

It doesn't register.

Once you drop top 5 it goes against one of the registration rule

Unless it's after registration

[burnt nova]

understood, many thanks

[hot idol]

Island raid group shows today after 12 UTC or tomorrow ?

[tall hazel]

Think tomorrow

[mystic scaffold]

I need the support of some mastermind in Crime TV Show Zooming skills.

I want to know what the medal on victor blackwoods chest shows.

[slow snow]

Gracias

[sage current]

Can't CSI pixelated graphics away. From a screenshot, the best you get is a generic police badge with a circle in the middle and some lines going out from it.

[main nebula]

hey

hw ru guis

[silent tiger]

[full grotto]

we probably did the same thing

screenshot and circled the medal

s24 ultra, if you know you know

didnt get any results of it though

[mystic scaffold]

Got it 👌

I thought someone with magic powers gets something better haha

[full grotto]

yep i saw you talking about it the other day, hence why i said it. got it aswell

lore wise he used to be the leader of some bio lab, my guess would be that its some kind of old medal / emblem of this facility

[mystic scaffold]

I am on the path to find the holy land of balanced matchmaking. So I need to go after everything that might be a lead.

Since he works for the bio company that might have triggered the zombie virus, it would have been a great start.

[full grotto]

balanced matchmaking we can only dream

[mystic scaffold]

Like a secret organisation bringing out the Z Virus to make the rich invest in weapons etc

[full grotto]

that would be pretty cool ngl

it just kind of backfired a litttleeeee bit

[mystic scaffold]

If IGG doesnt want to pay the devs enough to make the game better, they could hire willing people for free who would do great updates with story and content.

[tacit marsh]

Didn't get any hits on the badge, so I'm assuming it's just a generic one.

[mystic scaffold]

Joke dont fire me

[full grotto]

[fickle fiber]

Please Give us some way to use the extra fragment to get legendary fragment or something else

[thick plume]

in supply recall, you can. :^)

[tired rose]

There ppl who care about story?

[sage current]

There might be people who would care, if there were a story.

[tired rose]

At least each hero have their back story to read

[sage current]

I mean... They have words with their name in them

[nocturne hawk]

Good morning

[lofty island]

Hey everyone I had a quick question.

I was trying to find a chart for new servers and when things unlock. For example the check point and different level of villages.

Is there anything like that?

[sage current]

#🎫┊immigration-freedom message

[thick plume]

aww, no more Le cram :c

[lofty island]

Thanks so much ! @sage current

How is everyone today?

[lyric geode]

Hello, does anyone have a redeem code?

[alpine vapor]

How many t5s do you need to complete back alley Dr level 40 S in rallie ?

[elfin jay]

更新了全部砖石不见完

[slim bluff]

Could be 400k could be 2m
It depends how strong the player leading the rally is

[sand saddle]

Depends on your buffs and arnemants and stuff

[alpine vapor]

Ok thankyou that explains it , the leader needs to request help then as is a weak player ? Is that right

[sand saddle]

Yeah

[tired rose]

Or you can try the extreme

Make a rally and another 4 squad to swarm it

[sage current]

Or just rally it with two cycling squads

Wait, no I mean don't rally. Just attack.

[tired rose]

Someone in my alliance with t5 just solo it with 7 squads

[unreal cedar]

Hi all

[sage current]

If my alliance doesn't get online soon I'll be soloing it.

[stark ledge]

What is the solution in the shortage of power cans, as I suffer from their frequent shortage and not getting them continuously

[tired rose]

Im still deciding what to do with zombie hunt

Hunt today will be safe but no extra point from ir

While hunting in ir gonna be a sweaty game

🥹

[sage current]

There is no good solution but to hope the devs eventually address the outdated stamina system.

[sage current]

You can still hunt, just keep an eye on enemy locations. When you see a rider leave, you know you only have 20 minutes to get back home.

[stark ledge]

I hope so. It has become difficult to finish tasks or hunt zombies ...any way thank you for your answer.. good luck 🌹

[tired rose]

The solution is in the shop

All these high stamina consumption event together is no coincidence

[livid marten]

7?

[tired rose]

2 ded and come back

[alpine vapor]

I solo mine , it was another member , we rallied for him and it was fine , thanks for the advice

[livid marten]

Have u heard slims advice

[sage current]

Does slim have advice for back alley doctor?

[alpine vapor]

Who is slim ?

[sage current]

That is a good question to never find the answer to.

[alpine vapor]

🤣

[wind yew]

stay oblivious

[little fog]

Do people still take armour off for island / archepeligo raid match making?

I was told by igg that is has no effect

[sage current]

It's a superstitious tradition at this point.

[little fog]

I was told in live chat out right that it does nothing. and they count everything in the bag

[sage current]

To be honest, they're probably right but also wrong.

I doubt it counts everything in the bag but I think it counts historic armament might.

[little fog]

meh maybe

that is starting to get superstitious too

[sage current]

Eh, only if I tried to figure out a way to manipulate it

[little fog]

well making a new account would be the only way to stop historical might lol

[sage current]

New matchmaking meta. New accounts only.

[little fog]

😄

[unkempt acorn]

[rich hamlet]

@scarlet seal we need help with Back Alley Doctor

I’ll send out the bat signal @sage current

[sage current]

Great

[oblique arrow]

Hey, can you recruit here?

[rich hamlet]

#1106157611595870289

[oblique arrow]

👍

[scarlet seal]

Here ww go

[rich hamlet]

Hit us up with all the tips and tricks

[scarlet seal]

Another day another dollar, fine Monday in May to start another week

[sage current]

Well?

[clear copper]

Ok

[upper nymph]

TC is every two weeks right

[lofty furnace]

Yep

[upper nymph]

feels weird waiting for TC to pump up my heroes

Feels like I'm just waiting until TC to do anything major

[sage current]

You don't have to wait if you're not aiming to win.

[upper nymph]

on the fence - Unsure how tough the competition will be the next one lol

[livid marten]

Best question I’ve read here

[magic silo]

Probably pretty steep given it will have brand new heroes, and the whales in particular will want bard.

Gonna be really weird playing top farmer for a siege specific hero though, ngl.
Imagine earning him without a siege in sight.

They should have swapped Sara and bard for how you earn them

[formal patio]

Привет

[proper wedge]

#русский-russian-chat-room

[wind yew]

did they revert IR back from half a day matchmaking half a day seeing your map back to 1d and 1d

[magic silo]

This is what I've been hearing yeah.
I could see how it's a disadvantage for certain timezones having it half a day, but also like if you miss reset the diplomacy is basically done 99% of the time anyways so it seems just like a waste of time tbh

[wind yew]

yeah I'd usually miss out on the diplomacy early phases and get fked out of the best allies

this is one of the rare times I had wished it would line up at reset so it lined up with my scheduel a little

makes sense for pompeii though I was like bruh why is it during IR

[rich hamlet]

Just fight everyone Panda

[scarlet seal]

Ari, is bard going for as a f2p player in TC?

in what scenario would a mid 20M might player have enough rally space and tech to lead rallys to utilize Bard? seems like he is a situational hero not a field hero and not for people under t5? Thoughts?

[sage current]

You're not f2p, Legend.

[wind yew]

is he still claiming to be ftp?

[sage current]

I'm assuming the hypothetical "mid 20m" player is him

[magic silo]

Yes, agree- some are keen on just running 5511 bard on field for his aoe and skill factor, but I don't think he's going to be as good as Lynne for field use personally.
And yeah, if you're not strong enough to be a rally lead, there won't be as much need for him for sure. You're better off waiting for next infantry TC.
Because tbh none of the TC heroes except infantry are really optimal for f2p. I can't see justifying going all in on any of them

[scarlet seal]

considering i been saving for 4 weeks already a lot of boosts and exp medals they are burning a hole in my pocket, what would be a good TC to spend them on? I have 2 solid infantry formations and bella/elena on my roaster.. i am missing range and missing another rider squad.. what would you say is the best TC hero that fits well for field fights out of any TC besides infantry (looking for a solid hero in range, or rider).

[nocturne hawk]

Anyone have an update chart of points for Top Commander

[slim bluff]

Pinned in #🌟┊new-player-help

[nocturne hawk]

Was that for me

[slim bluff]

Ye

[nocturne hawk]

I have an old one but it has the kill points on it I was just wondering if there is a more up to date one.

Especially with the challenge phase

[nocturne hawk]

Am I supposed to ask again in that chat or search in the chat

Help im new to this game

[surreal mist]

I can't get to level 11 I need help 😭😭😭😭

[rich hamlet]

Look at the channel pins

[slim bluff]

Like i said check the pins

[nocturne hawk]

I'm still figuring out discord

[nocturne hawk]

So all the points are the same cause that looks like the one I have and we don't have kill points anymore

[slim bluff]

Wwll they didn't really change any points
Did they?

Just removed points from kills

[nocturne hawk]

Ok just wanted to make sure

[magic silo]

There really isn't one... they're all roulette.
Like maybe jacob ranged?

[magic silo]

Yeah as far as I know they didn't change anything, just removed kill points

[magic silo]

The best ranged squads on field are still going to involve julia, lynne, louis, chun, and Jacob as a last resort imo.
The riders are difficult right now, there isn't a super optimal 2 rider lineup to be had for fighting in field. Bella and elena each need to lead one, then you probably want to either buy catherine and/or use mai if you got her.
Sven is the next best assistant for field, he's pretty good there, just loses 1 entire skill in field. Not the worst.

[scarlet seal]

What you said is exactly what others told me, basically all the best heros are roulette + Louis across the board.. so why do people compete for TC so hard when all the best heros are roulette based?

[rich hamlet]

Because they are only the best heroes for F2P

Strong players want/need the TC heroes

[tranquil bone]

Evet

[scarlet seal]

the best heros the top heros are roultte, there is no strong TC heros outside of the infantry TC which is why i asked Ari

#☕┊en-general-chat message THERE REALLY ISNT A GOOD TC hero

[ionic rose]

if they werent strong people wouldnt be spending money to rank high to get them

[scarlet seal]

Ari confirmed they are mostly roulette which is puzzling why people compete so hard for TCs

[scarlet seal]

people are dumb, that is why

[scarlet seal]

scroll up, i asked the question about TC and i said i have a lot of boosts saved and the answer is there isnt any particular good hero to save for so TC is whatever after infantry, thus the roulette is the best option then

[rich hamlet]

Yes there are. Depending on the situation stronger players use Johnny, Jacob, and Sven. Victor also came from TC once upon a time

Also the new archer hero from TC will be wanted by every strong player

[ionic rose]

bard my beloved

[scarlet seal]

Archer hero is roulette

Victor is roulette

[rich hamlet]

Johnny and Jacob are not roulette

[scarlet seal]

Jacob is last resort

[rich hamlet]

Victor is now roulette yes he see the word past

[surreal mist]

Please help me 🙏🙏

[scarlet seal]

if you "had" to try for a TC he would be it

the best part of TC arent the heros its the rewards you get for completing each phase as the prizes are good including gems and boosts

[rich hamlet]

Last resort in the opinion of you and Ari, if you run more than 1 ranged unit which a lot of whales do he is not last resort

Please stop telling people who know more than you what is good and what isn’t

[scarlet seal]

no one want to do what whales do man, people come here for advise on normal gaming not what whales do

[rich hamlet]

Just regurgitating information given to you

[scarlet seal]

what whale setup is completely not workable for the average player thus its not a common question

[rich hamlet]

You asked why do people go hard in TC I literally just told you why. The people that go hard are the ones that want/need the heroes

[sage current]

I don't know why anybody is talking about heros when we all know heros don't affect damage.

[scarlet seal]

my set up works for the average player my advice can be implemented immediately with proven success and does NOT rely on $, on awakening heros or winning TC

[rich hamlet]

Your advice stinks

[scarlet seal]

now that is my niche, my niche is average players not top end players all my suggestions aim towards improving early to mid game

everyone has a niche they operate in like a business

[ionic rose]

average players want to get higher than 20m might usually..

[sage current]

That's 21m, mind you.

[rich hamlet]

You asked a question got an answer and then changed your question because the answer is one you don’t like

[ionic rose]

oh! my mistake, please forgive me

[rich hamlet]

Insanity

[scarlet seal]

20M in 8 weeks is quick pace, i am going to be at 50M soon with the tech giving so much might at this stage and HQ 25 within 2 weeks

[sage current]

0-20m is fast for anybody who is actively playing.

[scarlet seal]

you are defending TC winners by assuming they know what they are doing.. tons of people try to win TC regrdless if they already had a hero awakened because they just want to "win" doesnt make them smart

[ionic rose]

okay my 2nd account is the same with a focus on riders. youre just special because you wont shush about it

[rich hamlet]

In 8 weeks he has spent more money than I have in 14 months

[sage current]

But he's f2p so the money he spends doesn't count.

[rich hamlet]

True lol

[scarlet seal]

most people give up way before reaching 20M because they quit due to feeling of not competing enough or hearing they need to awaken heros or to win TC they get scared off by all this false statements from old veterans with 100M+ might who give advice based on their own perspective of fighting whales - BUT my way my strategy allows these new players to NOT quit and play at a constantly growing competitive level by applying theories and strategies that i created which take into account easy to access heros, f2p tactics, using boosts at the right time, not maxing heros skills fully and diversifying your hero badges and exp in the most strategic way possible to ALLOW you to stay in the right and actually reach hq 25 and 20M

i am a pioneer of the new player tactics which i am creating a workshop and a program for that people can enjoy so they can actually play the game and not quit early

[ionic rose]

i aint readin all that

[sage current]

My brain is filtering out all of the words 😦

[rich hamlet]

I am telling why people would want to win TC. If you run more than 1 ranged or rider squad in an actual fight you will want the TC heroes.

[sage current]

Slim, what you're doing, at best, is following some advice and then misinforming other times.

[rich hamlet]

Who cares if a majority in your opinion have no clue what they are doing

[scarlet seal]

I am here out here trying to voice my perspective on the game and i am constantly put down by other people its crazy

[rich hamlet]

You are not competing with anyone

[scarlet seal]

it doesnt make sense why people attack me all the time when all i am doing is trying to help

[sage current]

I think what did it for me, personally, was stereotyping cultures.

[sand saddle]

Bruuuuh

[rich hamlet]

Slim please post pictures of your performance in this IR so we can see you competing

[devout needle]

You are stupid

That's why

[sand saddle]

I don’t like people bullying anyone but you need to think twice before you say something lol

[devout needle]

Mentally damaged

[rich hamlet]

“i am a pioneer of the new player tactics which i am creating a workshop and a program for that people can enjoy so they can actually play the game and not quit early” -Slim 2024

This would be why you get people push back at you…

[ionic rose]

you get attacked all the time because you say things like 'im a pioneer of being a f2p game wizard' when you spend money and try to tell people with longer game times how to play the game they already know how to play..

[devout needle]

Tell me mom or dad?

Which one dropped you

[sand saddle]

🤣

[wind yew]

I already blocked him

save myself the headache trying to listen to him give some of the worst imaginable advice

its more like hes sabotaging players here

[ionic rose]

i know and im SO proud and jealous im almost there

[wind yew]

click the button and never look back

[rich hamlet]

I don’t have the strength to press the button

[sand saddle]

It’s entertaining for sure

[wind yew]

Aray on his deathbed, so he cant move the mouse to block he can only suffer

(dont forget to put me in your will)

[rich hamlet]

[ionic rose]

idk i think of it like.. a puzzle to solve.. deciphering the message and figuring out not only why is the statement wrong but how..

[wind yew]

puzzles are meant to be hard

thats like having two pieces you need to click together

[ionic rose]

i dont like to work that hard

[wind yew]

[ionic rose]

[sturdy notch]

hello guys I'm good to arrive

[magic silo]

Because the TC heroes have their places.
Sven is integral to rider rallies, which is the best way to make full use of rider troops.
Jacob used to be a pretty desirable garrison assistant, making some of those ranged TCs competitive too.
Infantry all 3 current TC heroes are highly valuable, and all of them can be used effectively even by f2p.
So yeah, TC is still really important.

The average player that isn't running rallies for their alliance, and isn't doing as much garrison leading, doesn't need most of the TC heroes imo- they should primarily be saving for infantry TC, almost no matter what troop type they focus on.
The exceptions being Sven and Jacob that can be somewhat useful for anyone outside of their optimal contexts.

[olive turtle]

how many vinyls do you get for each of the party packs? 499gold gives 40, but wondering what the other packs give

[wind yew]

I will say alot of the heros they drop that end up in TC are generally more specific for let's say rallies or garrison or they specialize alot more there (alot are fine on the field) I will give devs props for that lol making the good field heros etc that are more viable on the field generally more roulette based

It could be what makes them more money tbf since I'm sure alot more whales or whatever will be more competitive for the next garrison or rally hero but then again ftp would also be F'd on the field alot more as a result of having less vital heros so it'd be indirectly helping TC grinders more in any case

[unborn burrow]

👀

[alpine knoll]

[wind yew]

Go back to your rat hole!

[final gale]

[wind yew]

👺

[unborn burrow]

I see your besties was here

[wind yew]

💀

Shutup I blocked that guy

[unborn burrow]

🤣🤣🤣

[wind yew]

I'll let crut and them deal with him

[unborn burrow]

Awww buts he’s got the best advise

[wind yew]

And I got the best feet, we can all make stuff up

[unborn burrow]

Watch he be in world championship as the guest

[wind yew]

Well that wasn't a joke

🦶

[unborn burrow]

🤮

[wind yew]

Hes just that devoted, so clearly

[wind yew]

😉

Don't run now

[unborn burrow]

I wonder how long it will take for the devs to delete his account and kick him out

[sage current]

He spends too much money for that

[wind yew]

🤣 thing is he's not exactly breaking rules, he's just misleading people severely which should get him timed out ngl

[unborn burrow]

Oh he’s a spender now? Shows how much i pay attention

[wind yew]

He's a "ftp"

[wind yew]

He has always been

He just keeps saying he's the best ftp

[sage current]

He's a f2p spender

[wind yew]

Said that if he spends 30$ a month he's ftp

[unborn burrow]

I think that’s root cause for fraud😌

[wind yew]

I couldn't wrap my head around it

[unborn burrow]

Wait….a money spender free to play?!? What an oxymoron

[wind yew]

#👻┊memes message you can look at some of these screenshots from our almighty lord

[unborn burrow]

I must be a bigger then

[wind yew]

Yeah he dosnt understand you can't be both

He kept arguing NOBODY was actually ftp

Like bro there are some people who don't spend

You think there isn't someone who can beat the impulse 🤣

And for some people they need that one buck for dinner so

[unborn burrow]

Good lord😂😂😂😂

[wind yew]

I've never struggled so hard to tell if someone's a troll 🤣

[unborn burrow]

He needs help🥹

[wind yew]

🥹

[magic silo]

Yeah I didn't realize it until a few months ago when I was debating doing a TC that wasn't infantry.
Then I was like.. wait.. who would I even take?
You got jonny who is niche at best, and mainly for rally if you did use him. Jonathan who is... probably the worst legendary hero in the game. I'd honestly use jaden over him given the choice (I don't think he's actually worse than jaden)..
Sven and Jacob are the only remotely good ones, and they're just kind of ok now outside of rally and garrison respectively. And I don't think anyone is really using Jacob outside garrison, or much at all

[wind yew]

Sven might be my fav field one from TC

Jacob's alright he seems like a more tanky range one not to mention Aoe and rhe fact he's a decent garrison aswell

But not one I'd really care to go for if I was restricted on options

[slim bluff]

Except Riven, Eddie and Sven everything in TC sucks tbh

[stiff pelican]

Hola que tal, alguien sabra como recuperar mi cuenta, se me restauro el celu.
Lo reinstale puse el correo y salia error y una nueva partida.
Intente con correo, Facebook, google y nada...
Di alguien sabe alguna solucion, estaría fiel mente agradecido

[heady wigeon]

Hh

[forest folio]

dont forget thunder

[cedar cairn]

Hi

[scarlet seal]

Well no one is flaming you for saying pretty much what i said earlier

[slim bluff]

You said something delusional again? Sorry i didn't read it there ware to many messages

[latent zodiac]

هلاااا
هلااا

[devout needle]

He isn't stupid

[rich hamlet]

That’s not what you said. You said every TC hero apart from infantry is trash. I told you the ones that were not and you said I was wrong.

Revisionist history at its finest

[wind yew]

Just block him save the sanity

[rich hamlet]

It’s just wild that someone would say they said something they didn’t when people can just scroll up and read lol

[fringe lodge]

مرحباء

[forest folio]

Ah man first Eminem announces his next album is called "Death of slim shady " and now this slimshady in chat its the end of the slim shadies

[slim bluff]

Name one good reason why should people get Thunder from TC?

[unborn burrow]

He’s got pecs

[slim bluff]

Yesterday i had a member in my alliance saying that hes gonna get Thunder and hes just 60m might, Thunder for him would be the worst hero he could have get

I private message him and i said "If you get Thunder i will quit this game" and he listened to me didn't choose him

[slim bluff]

They are fake

[tawny imp]

Magandang Umaga po

[ionic rose]

who woke him up

[forest folio]

Obviously not for the new players, but once you have him awakened he does great in all areas of the field, garrison and fighting.

majority of players have him listed as top tier for infantry

[slim bluff]

If he does great can you explain this then, why does the player using Thunder have 5x wounded ? #🦸┊hero-n-armaments message

[slim bluff]

Majority of the players are clueless

[forest folio]

you left out so many things for the pic, who were the heros being used on both sides, what were the armaments for both players, what tier troops, who had buffs on

but saying "majority of players are clueless" tells me all i need to know, no point in arguing with someone who thinks they know it all

but thunder is used by many many top players and for a reason

[slim bluff]

Who? Less and less top players are using him because they know how bad he can be

[slim bluff]

Adut Riven vs Thunder Tom
T5 on both sides
My armaments were abit stronger, but his Infantry stats are stronger on his side

[forest folio]

okay bud 👍

[slim bluff]

If a hero is giving you 5x wounded it should be considered the worst hero ever
Not even the trades of Kerry and Jonathan are that bad compared people using Thunder on field and same thing can be said on Garrison

Im just spreading the message that he isn't good, thats all
And i hope even you realises that one day

[forest folio]

its cool, enjoy the vacation on delusional island not saying thunder is top tier in infantry is the best joke ive heard yet

[slim bluff]

You mean top tier at having 5x more wounded than the enemy?

Im still waiting for an explanation on why he has more 5x wounded?

Thought you said he was listed as top tier

[rich hamlet]

You’re an offensive combination vs a defensive 0 damage combination in the field.

A better report would be Adut + Riven vs Adut + Thunder.

Better still Miya + Riven vs Miya + Thunder.

[slim bluff]

Miya Thunder would still had 5x wounded

Saying anything positive about Thunder is pretty the much same as Slim being misleading
Just say you agree so we spread the word and clueless people stop going for him in TC

[wind yew]

Keep sky distracted talking about thunder while I steal his Bugatti

[rich hamlet]

That’s just gas lighting people into agreeing with you lol

[slim bluff]

But tell me im not wrong about what im saying?
If im right they people should agree with me, no?
Or would you rather agree with those people who saying that he is the best Infantry and everyone should get him?

[rich hamlet]

I don’t think he’s the best infantry, I also don’t think he is useless though

If I didn’t have him I would definitely try to get him during TC instead of gaining more fragments for heroes I have

[terse arch]

just keep them away from Bard

[terse arch]

thunder depends on the map. he's not a good hero in g1-g10 because big whales have too powerful range hero but in lower G thunder still unbreakable

in lower g players don't do even 20 mints tower battle

[slim bluff]

Imagine you fight on the field with your alliance in Pompeii or Island and 10 of your alliance members all bring out Thunder he does nothing instead of dying
How is this not the problem?

[terse arch]

among whales thunder almost useless

[magic silo]

In fairness it was me who said this, though I didn't use the term trash and I like to think I had more nuance to the response 😅
I mentioned sven and Jacob being the only non-infantry TC heroes most people could make some use of, but they wouldn't generally be that high priority unless you were hard focused on riders or ranged.

Oh and here's ShadyLite (tm) on his anti thunder train again too

Love it here 😆

[wind yew]

Pretty valid point hes only considered as bad as he is because he just gets hammered esp by these range heros but people in G20 or something generally ain't built like the hulk lol

[terse arch]

i'm fighting over g120 and my thunder is 2M

[wind yew]

And I think even 1v1s I've been able to trade better vs peterson running a dps (although depending on the combo I still lose in numbers) it used to be way better 1v1 for smaller scale 1v1s

But then again like I said this isn't hulk smash bracket lmao so you'll be fairing way better outside something like G1

[terse arch]

but g1 players think they are the only one playing this game

[rich hamlet]

He isn’t even awful in G1 I see positive trades all the time

Honestly like everything else it just comes down to armaments etc

[magic silo]

And he also just does what he does differently in a garrison. All things equal, no one is going to buy more time if that's your goal which sometimes it is, even in higher Gs

[forest folio]

all i was saying is he is not a waste of a hero, im always in g1-g5 and still see him used alot in towers and the trades are never as bad as he says they are "5x wounded".

im not saying he is the #1 best infantry hero, but he def shouldnt be passed on if you have a chance to get him

[slim bluff]

Surely the report is wrong i guess

[sage current]

To be fair, the report is cropped and also doesn't show armaments.

[slim bluff]

#🦸┊hero-n-armaments message

Check again

[sage current]

Ah, sorry. I didn't see that one. You've shared several.

[slim bluff]

I keep sharing the same one

[sage current]

I know you've kept doing this, but I have seen different screenshots.

[forest folio]

your argument is with a thunder that is not awakened, and also a battle of 2 defense infantry vs 2 offense infantry

and just because you didnt get good results doesnt mean automatically every other player gets bad results

[slim bluff]

What does offensive and defensive even matter when he will just couse you more wounded than any other hero?
And your even saying that somehow others are not having the same results

[final gale]

Them damage reduction is ignored

[forest folio]

you really must be trolling at this point

[slim bluff]

Yea sure my reports where i fight against Thunder are fake, im definitely trolling, clueless

[forest folio]

so your report is the same as every other player in the game? thats what your saying

[slim bluff]

I bet you just don't even look at the reports, you just use him because of lols

[forest folio]

you have bad trades with him that must surely mean everyone else does this right, because surely theres no other factors to look at in this game where players get different results with different battles

[slim bluff]

You all keep saying he is decent and all, but im the only one here with proof that says otherwise

[final gale]

I mean he can do whatever

I still use thunder all the time, very useful against mega whales when I'm only 2m armament

Held fine

[rich hamlet]

I don’t know how you can over look the fact you are using two heroes with abilities that have a combined damage factor of over 25000 against 2 with a combined damage factor of 6000

[slim bluff]

How could i not?
I comparing a normal squad against Thunder
What else would you want me to compare him with
Maxine???

[remote flame]

Có ai ko

[rich hamlet]

You’re doing an unfair test by comparing the two squads, if you don’t think that you’re just trolling.

I told you the better tests earlier to which you replied it would be the exact same with 0 evidence.

[slim bluff]

Yea that 5x wounded report isn't enough evidence, right
Why dont you show me an evidence where he is decent like you all keep saying?

[forest folio]

your also not showing us the armaments, lethalty+ block play a big numbers game in the reports

but hey its like you say, your the only one with a report , so clearly that means noone has good trades with him

[rich hamlet]

I don’t save random field reports lol

[slim bluff]

Must be the 1 star armaments that causes him to heave 5x wounded, not his stupid heal

[slim bluff]

I can guarantee you that they don't

[sage current]

Can somebody this week do sky a favor and remember to save some battle reports from Thunder to share?

[forest folio]

not to mention your using a non awakened thunder for reults

[final gale]

I have a lot on G1-5 on top of that

Thunder eating 3-5 rallies

[forest folio]

look at his skill set, his heal isn't fully activated until you awaken him

[slim bluff]

Yes the awakend Thunder would reduce the wounded from 5x to 1-1 right bro

[final gale]

As i said... Damage reduction

He can have like 42% all the time

[forest folio]

put an awakened thunder in there, with good armaments and yes your "5x" would decrease alot

[slim bluff]

Bet they wound decrease to 4.5x at best

[slim bluff]

From where?

[final gale]

Bro is in so much denial 😭

[final gale]

Skill 3-4

Which you don't have?

[slim bluff]

Those dont apply on the field

[forest folio]

on what planet?

[final gale]

Pretty sure 30% does

[slim bluff]

Earth?

[final gale]

I go 5151 when it first came out but I'm just being real maybe your armaments is the problem, if you don't have a decent stat nothing will be good

[forest folio]

skill 3 you reduce 30% dmg from basic attack, then there is a 2nd option for garrison one is field and the other is garrison

[rich hamlet]

30% counts in field

[final gale]

Explains why you do riven it holds damage instead of taking it means better trade cause it holds the horrific damage you'll get without it

[rich hamlet]

Also no one is saying to use thunder as a main hero, he is support in the field lol

[slim bluff]

So you're saying thats the reason why he has 5x wounded, because he doesn't have 3rd skill up?

[final gale]

It's more of bad stat i think

[forest folio]

you battled an awakened adut with a non awakened thunder and expected good results?

[slim bluff]

Where do you see Awakened Adut?

[forest folio]

no your right i looked wrong she wasnt awakened but either way, you battled a offense hero vs a defense hero on the field, what did you expect?

[final gale]

Try going at it on arena check 5511 thunder vs 5151 thunder

I don't expect you to be buffed up tho cause you're not entirely wrong with but half right

[slim bluff]

Can we stop with this support stuff? He isn't worth supporting anything for the cost of filling your hospital..

[final gale]

Under 2m armaments should focus on shields like that riven or raigoro giving less damage time you get

But saying thunder is bad is wrong too

[rich hamlet]

He is a support hero if you use him in the field, that’s a fact

[final gale]

Not everyone have the same stat as you, buffed up people can heal like crazy

[slim bluff]

What does defense even mean when you're getting 5x Wounded than normal?

[wind yew]

yeah I wouldnt say hes bad, it can really depent and lower brackets he deffo excells way more in