☕┊en-general-chat

[wind yew]

Because they have so few troops

Always in towers and rallies

[rich hamlet]

I am pretty sure someone in my alliance did it at like 88m

[wind yew]

You can prob manage T6 at 70-80m might with no troops if your just pure rushing it

70 would be hard to do but doable for sure

You can do it atleast 80m

[tacit marsh]

Hmm idk if I can keep it that low honestly...

[wind yew]

It's hard to do, I didn't do it intentionally just these pvp events have my fillers troops dying out lol

[rich hamlet]

I’ll let you know next TC I’ll be T6 and I have low troops because of filling rallies and towers

[tacit marsh]

I have 1.2m troops, I'm 47m might currently. 5/10 for BfM, encirclement and cushion.

[rich hamlet]

You’re getting there!

[delicate void]

Shadys memorable comment was that a smart f2p player can beat a dumb P2W anyday 😂🤣

[wind yew]

Remove safemes brain and he still smokes me 😭

[delicate void]

He just needs to fart and will wipe alliances

[magic silo]

Once you hit 8/10 though you need to inflate might a bit to get BC and lab 25, then the last couple levels I think are like 2M total each? Quite a bit anyways. So that's another 6M ish just for the tech, and 1M ish for each t6

[tacit marsh]

Ugh

[delicate void]

Tbh I'm surprised shady didn't offer to be in the championships since he's pro 4.5 minutes after starting the game

[scarlet pewter]

Finally they fit my 2.5b alliance in g20 with 5b might alliances i gonne farm level 7 nodes wish me good luck guys

[blazing condor]

Yeah one of my friend did it around 75m 🤭

[wintry holly]

HI OMG I never rlly talk on servers but i need like 4 people to dm me cuz I need to invite like 4 more people (Srry this is out of nowhere and out of topic but im desperate and already asked all my friends to join but still need 4 more.. 🧍‍♂️)

Its for a pls donate server 😭😭

[full grotto]

😂

[unborn burrow]

Lmfao! Wait wait wait….you mean to tell me you developed a guide of information that was given to you by other players who have been playing this game already longer than 6 weeks who supposedly are “beta” testers….lmfao! Lord help me with this one🤣🤣🤣 should we say your guide is speculation because is fabricated by you and not official IgG?😱 considering most your information was litteraly spoon fed to you and you did absolutely 0 ground work for identifying validity to it. Yeah…I’m sure you also pay others to write essays and say you spend weeks drafting them…GTFO

[whole remnant]

For T6 only the 3 after T4 of the troop I want to unlock have to be 15/15, the other troops can stay 10/15, right?

[ember mica]

What

[delicate void]

All previous tech needs to be unlocked including the last 3 tech in economy (last 3 has no further dependancies)

You can upgrade one troop type at a time but all tech on same line must be researched

[tacit marsh]

No, t6 infantry also need energy drinks 15/15

[whole remnant]

That's what I said, but does it also need Camo Finish 15/15, Anti Flaming Tank 15/15 and Mechanical Finish 15/15?

[tacit marsh]

Derp I read that wrong I'm sorry

[whole remnant]

Or can they stay 10/15

[tacit marsh]

Only for the corresponding troop type.

So if you want infantry, you don't need those other 3 15/15 just energy drink.

[whole remnant]

Thanks for confirming

[tacit marsh]

Yuppers, where about are you on the tech anywho?

[whole remnant]

I unlocked T5 rider, but continued with the 15/15 for rider first before unlocking other T5.
I am doing some overview to T6 that's why I need experience from others. This was the last puzzle

[tacit marsh]

Ah, I just finished t5 uh... armored hummers, which was the last I needed. Currently working on battlefield medicine, cushion fiber and encirclement.

[tranquil shale]

Me still struck with T4😭

[quartz fable]

Hey

[wintry holly]

Sorry to ask again but i need 3 more people to add me for the server i'll explain in dms BUT PLS ANYONE AT ALL WHOS ONLINE RN😭😭

[spice lion]

The kindergarten convos are hilarious, keep it going guys! Love the entertainment

[mint smelt]

h

[mystic scaffold]

Dont question his superiority. He is just above everyone in the 2 months he played

[novel crest]

Any region based in north America or all regions kinda laggy no matter where

[mystic scaffold]

Havent noticed any lags. Unless its a big war with many people on screen.

How is your internet ?

[novel crest]

Its good, its kinda not lag but after 5 to 10 minutes the game is just unplayable weirdly.

[grim heart]

discord.gg /kuzgun

[full grotto]

Try running it on this performance mode, maybe your phone cant handle loading everything so it starts lagging?

[whole remnant]

It is ready
#1229708825989480449 message

Haha you can't edit pictures in that channel.

So now I have to live with every mistake

[ionic cloak]

[tired torrent]

[dull trench]

question, How much resources can you take if you transfer region?

[whole remnant]

The amount that fit into your warehouse.

[dull trench]

Thanks, bro

[nocturne hawk]

1754769810

[summer fiber]

what level needed to open armament?

[sage current]

24

[summer fiber]

oof, still longg way

im 20 now, 5 days to be 21

[fair tendon]

Any codes?

I also need administrative permission, in my game but unsure who to ask.

[sage current]

What do you mean by "administrative permission?"

[opaque otter]

I have deleted part of your message and pm'd you.

[fair tendon]

??

[whole remnant]

I guess it refers to the screenshot in #🌟┊new-player-help

[neat oak]

GM GM

[dull trench]

hello guys

in relocating to another region, how many days should we wait to be able to do regular events?

[whole remnant]

Depends on the age of the region you want to join

[dull trench]

oh ok.. whats the longest, brother?

[full grotto]

30 days

[whole remnant]

age <30 days = 30 days
age <70 days = 7 days
age >= 70 days = 3 days

[crimson horizon]

There is no one you actually talk like that

[versed palm]

guys at which lvl will I ulock arnament

[novel halo]

Yo

Hru guys

[zenith pilot]

1234

1234 your moms a w

[novel halo]

Im alright

What u guys up too

[delicate void]

Are you ali g's love child

[crimson horizon]

I’m just having a hard time with what I’m seeing on screen lol

[delicate void]

Mi finks ez Ali Gs son

[sage current]

This is weird.

[crimson horizon]

I’m scared

[sage current]

I didn't realize Jamacians wrote Jamacian too.

Depends on if you want your troops to all die or not

Well, it's probably fastest to be patient, get stronger troops, and join an alliance that participates in raid events.

yeah

[whole remnant]

24

[delicate void]

Long game is better, get to T5, awaken heroes, focus on favourite troop types first, build parts and armaments, join events and field fight, pick battles and opponents and know when to run and avoid much stronger opponents, join rallies and garrison. Don't burn shelters directly, at least rally,don't burn in region because permanent troop losses vs 65/70% return rate during events

[wind yew]

Yeah not to mention you get troop returns in IR and AR (75%) so even if your getting deads it's not like your actually losing all your troops

[sage current]

Yes

Also in AR/IR you get rewards for killing. Outside of potentially resources from shelter, there really is no benefit to killing in your region.

[livid marten]

Burn shelters in region using cars if ur going to loot rss only

[dull trench]

hello guys, FOr Treasure Hunt, what purchases that will actually work that event?

[slim bluff]

Gems

[torn dragon]

Hello

[tired rose]

Gems that isnt bonus gems btw

[tranquil shale]

My Freya is level 11 and she is awakened. Normally a heros 4th skill opens only when it reaches lvl 30. Right

[sage current]

I think so

[sinful path]

Is there any romanian alliance on this game?

[sage current]

This won't help much, but: I have met a few Romanian players but I don't know if they were in a Romanian alliance or not and I don't remember their names.

However, a search for "Romanian" and "Română" on discord only brings up two other people asking your same question, so if they're out there I don't think they're here.

[jaunty spade]

Yo gangs

[sharp mantle]

Guys quick ? I have ak47 token in my wallet and the emblem looks just like above can anybody tell if they have anything to do with each other

[whole remnant]

You sure it doesn't look more like a walther P99 than an ak47?

[mint wave]

Hola saludos desde puerto rico

[cedar rapids]

Are the victory badge and outpost toolbox are recyclable?

[final gale]

None, mine piles if only i can do the same with money

[echo goblet]

Hello

Any pro players online?

[whole remnant]

Shady should be online soon

If you need elite of the elite

[floral stream]

Hi Everyone

when can reserves enter pompeii?

[craggy kettle]

hallo

[dapper bear]

JOIN MY GROWING ALLIANCE WE NEED AN ACTIVE MEMBERS #449 XPHP SquadroNR449

[nocturne hawk]

Hello, I want to report a person who uses Che's photo, how can I report it?

I can't believe how the game allows players to have images of murderous sociopaths.

[normal hinge]

Ayy

[nocturne hawk]

Are you looking for drugs? Rasta brother

https://tenor.com/view/rasta-tour-guide-gif-25531198

I did not understand anything

So don't look for rasta alliance

[sage current]

If there is a Jamaican alliance, I have not met them. This is the first time I've encountered somebody typing Jamaican patois on the internet at all.

[tepid obsidian]

Hello people! Does anyone know if healing troops in pompeii event count towards alliance league mission?

[sage current]

I don't think anybody has ever tried.

[scarlet pewter]

Nope they dont

[tepid obsidian]

Thank you very much!

[graceful pebble]

Hi ppl

[wind yew]

never say never lol

[gentle quartz]

Eslam

[cerulean yew]

Boa

[dull trench]

question guys, If I leave my alliance that is registered for AR and came back, can i still join the AR?

[scarlet pewter]

Yea

[dull trench]

[sage current]

You can tell an "event" is well thought out when you rank well and still get nothing due to the threshold.

[tacit marsh]

Great hunter?

[nocturne hawk]

im romanian too

[floral yoke]

Can you reset a charactor to lvl 1?

[tawny imp]

Hello .... Soooo HOT 🥵🔥

[glass quarry]

nope

[floral yoke]

Wow. Guess I'm done playing then. Leveled a weak character, but did not know it at the time. What a joke.

[glass quarry]

🤔

[sage current]

You can still level up other characters too, you know.

[wind yew]

Crazy reason to quit 💀

[sage current]

Sounds more like he wanted to quit but felt he should blame something for it instead of just wanting to not play.

[magic silo]

If you play for more than a couple weeks you'll find it's very easy to just level a different character.
If you could reset characters at will, there would be no incentive to develop multiple ones.
Everyone could just have 2 maxed hero super lineup of whatever the flavour of the day choices were whenever..

[wind yew]

He already left the server Brodie don't bother lol

[rich hamlet]

We have new people quitting over levelling the wrong hero… we need the the SS guide quick

[full grotto]

Only SlimShady, master of all f2p players, only he could stop the ruthless p2w players. But when the world needed him most, he vanished

[scarlet seal]

Ar absolute nightmare right now

There are Chinese alliance players gate keeping our front gate

They won't let pl come out of the safe zone to get to the scavenger or the warehouses

[mystic scaffold]

Why does it matter what ethnicity the alliance is ?

[scarlet seal]

Issue is they have stronger units so unless we move in a massive group we get sniper

Sniped cause Asian have cheaper $ purchases

So I am forced to only make points in the safe zone

[mystic scaffold]

How come they have cheaper purchases.

[scarlet seal]

The issue is that zombies only give 6k

And hives 6k

You need 2M points to qualify its poor point breakouts

[mystic scaffold]

Thats why you safe training speed for island so that you can make points when matchmaking is bad

[scarlet seal]

They need to rework AR to give a bit more points for farmers

It shouldn't be tailored to only t5+ people to have fun and enjoy while low tier are stuck in their base doing boring zombie and farming itsnnot fair

[mystic scaffold]

There is that wonderful game called Farmville.

If farmers reach max rewards without fighting, thats bad design in a war game.

[scarlet seal]

The safe zone isn't exciting and you are barely making points man

You won't even hit the 2M even if you farm ALL day for 5 days

[mystic scaffold]

I thought you are the best f2p. You said you will overcome the p2w

[scarlet seal]

I will still hit 2M

Despite all the flaws I will do it BUT it's incredible hard and I feel 90% of players won't hit 2M

Thus it needs to be reworked so more players can qualify its not fair right now how little points you make

It gives too much leeway to pvp and not enough to reward farmers

[magic silo]

it's crazy i waded into a sea of t6 whale bois and came out with 2d healing and 6M points within like 15 minutes.
Sitting at about 13M now just from fighting people way stronger than me because that's the lot we drew

can still fight smart and get a lot of points.
Weren't you just saying yesterday how you could get so many points not doing pvp or something?

[magic silo]

it's literally a pvp event. Farming isn't exactly exciting/dynamic competitive gameplay friend

[final gale]

I'm asian oh i wish these stereotypes its true

living cost in asian is cheaper, but it doesn't necessarily means we pay games cheaper. It's just a converted price from dollars with the same value

[magic silo]

it's also almost guaranteed not even Chinese he just sees characters he doesn't understand and says that. see a lot more Korean and Japanese groups.
Not that any of it even matters. I don't understand specifying it either

[final gale]

Yeah

I don't get why people keep bringing up "asian pays cheaper on every games" we pay the same stuff. The difference is living here is way cheaper than first world countries

[full grotto]

That shouldnt be a problem for you though? I mean, you are the elite f2p player. You are the proof that a smart non spender can outplay and win against others. Prove it

[final gale]

They might as well put a lot in games since food and stuff is cheaper.

[crisp thunder]

Hey guys how many frags needed for last skill of gold heros?

[tall hazel]

85

[crisp thunder]

I mean total frags for that last skill

[tall hazel]

310

[crisp thunder]

Tq

[tired rose]

Most of the time they only asking/looking for guide after playing for a while

And funny thing is they usually spend those legendary fragments/badge during their first tc on whoever police station heroes they got

🥹

[tranquil radish]

@magic silo @final gale

[delicate void]

Dev released message saying events will run fortnightly and points for kills are gone from TC

[thorny sandal]

Why should they lol

[tall hazel]

Yeah no more kill points during tc... yay....nay....

[wind yew]

It's a war event??

[wind yew]

That's the one thing I don't like I'm not sure if they're just saying through the week or if they're removing it all together, im assuming all together otherwise bad wording

[wind yew]

Idk how it's 2m points for you but it's probably going to be 80m soon enough for you aswell, unless your only trying to unlock the first reward or something weird

[molten pendant]

i feel like last phase pvp was OK. new way of 'pretty much any day is pvp day' was crazy

[thick plume]

still the same, right? since the miore you kill, less points you get

[wind yew]

I agree, I'm wondering if they're rushing along the new version of darkseal or something for TC

[tall hazel]

Yeah. Having breaks between the weeks is very nice

[wind yew]

I mean they have IR/AR once a month atleast do TC on island raid or something for kill points

[tall hazel]

but removing defeat enemies is tough

[wind yew]

Holy sheet tell me about it brother 😭

I might crawl on the ground like a worm towards the devs shoes for reverting the change

[thorny sandal]

Finally not gonna have multiple events ending and starting at exact same time

[wind yew]

It should've been like this from the beginning

I'm not sure if back-back was nessicary but I'm not gona complain I'm thinking island raid one half of the month and AR the other would've been neat

But maybe that's just me lol

[tall hazel]

Question is

Will they adjust seasonal shop rewards and victory tokens?

[delicate void]

Defeated enemies will be removed from TC schedule so I took this as no more kill points for TC

[thick plume]

ooooh they should do that

[wind yew]

I can prob still finish devices with just two events but now we prob gotta be more picky

That's the one thing I liked abt all these events

[thick plume]

unless they add a non-pvp event between AR/IR that gives merits

[little fog]

Well pompeii gives some

[thick plume]

10 won't cut it T^T

[little fog]

and that is every week still

[wind yew]

True but only 10

[thick plume]

5 if lose, right?

[thorny sandal]

Rewards should definitely increase, they were lowered to have 4 events as well

[little fog]

Just don't lose?

This current AR for us is so one sided it is beyond a joke

[thick plume]

has the faction merit reward always been that low ._.

[little fog]

I hope we keep the krackens every 2 weeks 😛

[calm urchin]

• return of the old arrow events so there's an incetive of more spending

[sly helm]

Hello

[wind yew]

My internet crashed while I was on the field so each of my T6 accounts got 400k in the hospital 💀😭

Expensive bill for bad internet lol

[little fog]

ouch

we have 2 billion might allience with 300m might players in

so yeah just mega whales wandering about

[wind yew]

💀 hopefully they won't feel the urge to do that anymore now that events are back to 1 month

[little fog]

Nah they have the taste for easy points now

[wind yew]

I'm sure devs wouldn't have changed the event frequency if they didn't see the money go down and people sitting out a shtload

[delicate void]

Second such change to move away spending and whales from tc placements

[delicate void]

I'd say they may have needed a potential cash flow boost knowing its not sustainable

[little fog]

They should make signing up for events like pompeii (checkboxes)

Then people can go back to having mixed family alliences without the might downside

[molten pendant]

might is calculated wrong when single t5 troop is 9 might and single t6 is 15 might....

that might have been OK with plain stats

[little fog]

doesn't matter when you have alliences with 10 whales and 40 filler joining the baby islands

[molten pendant]

but when hero equipment and armaments boost those stats by % - T6 is much more powerfull vs T5 than mere 2 to 1

[little fog]

and just killing everyone with no contest

[molten pendant]

more like 5 to 1 now

if you have 5 T6 players then possible match would need to be vs other 5x T6 or vs 25x T5

or mix of T5 / T6

otherwise hard NO MATCH between those alliances

even with total power roughly the same

[little fog]

to be honest with tower rallies etc 25 t5 will lose to 3 good t6 😛

because the tower will just fall

[molten pendant]

last pompei our 20 or 30 T5 were matched against 10 T6 and a few T5 - roughly 2 or 2,5B might total for registered players .... we lost 50k vs 11k score

[little fog]

pompeii is also about holding buildings

if t6 are sitting in them t5 will have a very very hard time moving them

[molten pendant]

yeah.. and if t5 sits in defense ... T6 takes it with ease

about half time they took whole map and it was all over

[little fog]

Yup

stats + better % on those stats is hard to deal with

[molten pendant]

i feel like 5vs 1 would be pretty even

[little fog]

depends on the t6

some are terrible

[molten pendant]

not 9 vs 15 as 'might' stat suggests

[little fog]

often t6 players have many mnay more troops

[livid marten]

Finally, the hostages are free!! No more weekly island events 🥹

[quiet lantern]

I feel like a player need have to a debuff when facing many people ... 6 = increase 10% damage taken 12 = 20% taken

[little fog]

there is a flanking bonus

not sure how much it is

[untold tide]

How much do the latest 3 technologies cost before T5?

[little fog]

time or resources?

[untold tide]

Time

I have health, attack and defense at 7/10 level.

[molten pendant]

roughly same time as you did so far combined

0-8 = 8-10

9 to 10 is about 35 days with around 100% research speed

[untold tide]

And t5?

[molten pendant]

t5 itself is a bit shorter than 9-10 upgrade

[untold tide]

Okay, thank you, Bro.

I have 27M, I still have many days to arrive it seems

[flint bluff]

finaly

[molten pendant]

i believe unlocking t5 happens around 35-40M power

[flint bluff]

ar and ir is 1 times in 1 month

[molten pendant]

i wonder about 'no pvp in TC'

will it be revert back to 'pvp in last phase' or 'no pvp at all'

[sage current]

I imagine they're going to do exactly that: Just remove the pvp from TC to make it more of a buy-only sort of deal.

I wish they would have just cut healing resources in half during events rather than cut the frequency in half, considering they probably aren't going to adjust the rewards and Island Raid is still awful boring.

[molten pendant]

right - othrewise whale T6 pairs with another whale T6 and earns 150M points in single day taking top1 spot without even needing other phases

[deft cave]

It boggles the mind how they took this long to make this change

when they introduced AR I was sure they would do on every two weeks and alternate

[deft cave]

tbh kill points was skewed HEAVILY in favour of big players and whales

now it's just kind of as skewed as the other things

[stone merlin]

Unfortunately the game decided to go back to the old rotation of events, but we enjoyed 1 whole month of a good game

[sage current]

It'll still be different from the old rotation, having an event every 2 weeks instead of every month.

[wind yew]

Idk about you but most people weren't enjoying the weekly fights couldn't keep up, couldn't afford the resources, the time etc

[stone merlin]

Oh, you're right, so it's not as bad as I thought. Anyway I don't think it was a necessary change, the last month has been a lot of fun and it's a shame that the game made this decision

[wind yew]

Nearly everyone I talked to whale or ftp had issues, more so because it only made matchmaking worse and fights far less ferocious

[wind yew]

Much more satisfying lol

I was losing my sanity

[sage current]

I like having the constant events but I don't like the resource requirement for the constant events.

[wind yew]

Issue is it's not even just resources etc, just too time intensive too can't live on this game

Do negotiations every week, fight for hours on hours and week lol

And like I mentioned it just took away from the intresting aspect of fights and messed up brackets

Alot of whales couldn't even keep up with the pacing so now lower brackets are littered with random beasts trying to relax

[sage current]

That's a separate problem, I believe.

That's from having bad matchmaking and then making it even worse by giving players the opportunity to try to fix it for themselves.

[wind yew]

I think its a problem that was exacerbated by this issue

Eh yeah and no

These whales wouldn't feel inclined to go sit in smaller alliances if it wasn't for frequent matchmaking

I mean yeah some would get through on the once a month scale but it wasn't nearly as bad

I mean boon was even doing splits I know they had a few whales in some random brackets that probably ruined the balance and in turn ruined the bracket for plenty of people

I mean even rn boon isn't at full power so they basically got a bracket that was extremely favorable handed to them because they're just sitting with a ton of whales in their alliance alot of the other players somewhere random because they planned to sit out IR and AR (can't afford G1 every week)

[stone merlin]

Big alliances always had the opportunity to choose between participating and not doing so. I think the frequency of the events was fine, but the players thought they should participate in each one and that was a mistake

[wind yew]

But alliances participated because it was once a month so it made sense to participate, it being once a week meant they couldn't keep up couldn't heal couldn't manage time wise etc

[sage current]

It kind of makes sense they would want to participate every time though. Maximum rewards, and people who tend to invest money in something are more likely to want to maximize the return.

[wind yew]

To say oh they could've not fought previously but they aren't NOW is the point yeah I could stick my finger up my butt last week but nobody offered me 10 dollars to do it until thus week

It's also massive for burnout and making players lose intrest in these events even if a few players enjoy this being a weekly event the game sure won't when the players playing drops

When alliances are regularly sitting out because the mindset of "oh well I fight again right after this so what's the harm" also ruins any interest in brackets like what real incentive is there for big fights like there normally are if everyone just feels like oh it's a waste of troops and resources since I fight next week

I've fought with and against teams like that already just don't show up don't care to they can do it next week afterall but normally they wouldn't miss a single event

[stone merlin]

It doesn't make sense. They want to play every event, but they don't want it to be too frequent. Why don't you decide to stop participating yourself instead of making the game change its rules?

[wind yew]

Because rewards, you don't do it you get left behind in the competition

You cant get as many stuff from the seasonal shop as Jimmy next door or get as many device fragments

[sage current]

Same reason I still participate in Alliance League despite it being horrible.

[wind yew]

The argument that you don't HAVE to fight is always bad to me you don't have to do anything your insentivised to fight or get left behind

Not to mention alliance unity I mean I fought last week told my alliance you guys are not required to show up, im sure some just wanted points and kills don't get me wrong but I'm sure some people who showed up felt obligated seeing us fighting tooth and nail on towers

[sage current]

I already have 7.3 million AR points and haven't fought one person yet

[wind yew]

I don't want my guys fighting because they feel they have to while feeling burnout with the game fighting every week

[wind yew]

Must be nice

I got sht for points and half a full hospital because my wifis on crack

😭

[sage current]

I suppose. It's been about as expensive as fighting though

[wind yew]

🤣🤣🤣

[stone merlin]

Hey, good rewards by a low price

[wind yew]

Still don't like it 🤣

[thick plume]

seeing those rider mains get almost max reward in AR/IR in a day makes me jealous T^T

[mystic scaffold]

I always throw the opinion into the bin that says. If I miss this event I will get behind. Inside a p2w game. 👀

I need to match Hansz and Safeme spending, otherwise I get behind.

I always say. If you compare yourself with someone else, you will give yourself a bad time. Especially when it isnt fair and balanced in the first place.

I was more happier not caring what others do and not spending on the game.
I just came online, did stuff and had fun swarming panda shelter just to realize i am melting.

[magic silo]

Shady is that you?

[molten pendant]

if it was fair and balanced matches you would have a choice - either maximize my rewards and match with allaince A for fair game, or play casually and match with alliance B for fair game

[sage current]

I wish I could be that oblivious to reality. But alas, no, I just trained a boatload of t5s in my excitement.

[molten pendant]

now it is 'no matter what you will be matched with whale alliance C and act as food for them - maximize rewards for slight shadow of a chance to win

[mystic scaffold]

Yep and even if you get those 20 armaments fragments. Someone else will spend 100 euro and get 10 times that.

Never feel like you have to do anything inside an unbalanced pvp game and dont compare yourself to others.

What does every new player do.

Every f2p that starts now is forever behind another active f2p.

If this game was 100% f2p and balanced then I would agree with missing an event is bad.

But here. No. You will be unhappy thinking that.

In the end its a game and you are supposed to have fun and engagement.

The moment you say you have to participate even tho you dont like it, just for the rewards.
... you lost

[tired rose]

Lmao the dev

[magic silo]

I agree with half this- i think the semblance of competition is the only reason to keep playing a pvp game though at all.
There's always grind

[thorn scroll]

Hello

[tired rose]

Remove killing enemy mission from tc 🥹

[mystic scaffold]

Definitely. Competition and Grinding is good for sure, but someone who says he is only playing for the sake of getting rewards and not the game or fun itself.

Thats bad. Wasting your time.

[tired rose]

What do they expecting me to do to get point on last phase now?

[sage current]

everything else

[mystic scaffold]

Those people can play a more interactive and fun game. Online or Offline.

[tired rose]

That’s why i save all can foods for ar!

Actually good exp too

[sage current]

Food?

[whole remnant]

It says MEAT on these cans, so can food seems legit

[sage current]

Ohh, stamina. Are zombies really that efficient for ar points? I feel like it costs too much in sanity.

[whole remnant]

Points per zombie are lower than TC, but still a good way to get points in safezone if you like farming. Combined with russel event it's double win

[wind yew]

Yeah although not everyone are G1 warriors lol

[wind yew]

I don't know, when I have balanced brackets and even if I don't if I'm a rally leader or a garrison leader having one extra device upgrade or one extra Stat slot makes all the trades better for my players and for my alliance

[lethal schooner]

Agreed

[wind yew]

To say that it dosnt matter just seems really wrong I mean even now in my legion if I'm the main rally lead for my alliance I should be doing the best to maximize my trades, if I'm a smaller player with a less vital role that extra armament might make your trades marginally better over a long period of time, not every bracket is whale vs whale vs whale

[lethal schooner]

Panda, who would u recommend paired with Miyamoto?

[wind yew]

I think to say because there are mega whales or whales hence growing optimally dosnt matter is a bad stance to have, if I missed these events I might be getting smashed by people I'm able to smash or trade relatively well on

[wind yew]

I think adut miya works well

[gaunt gull]

I have question can anyone please help?

[wind yew]

Yes?

[gaunt gull]

So in grand revival event, do I have to collect 6000 hammers or ammo to shoot in one go to reach Master, or the points accumulate every time you participate in the event?

[wind yew]

I BELIEVE this accumulates like for example ranking 1st in your bracket will make you progress although I'm not 100% sure about the hammer thing if spending more hammers may net you more points or something, maybe someone who spends on the event frequenly will enlighten us lol

[wind yew]

I have fun in events but every week is too much, and I can recognize how vital my growth is not only for me and my trades but for my alliance be it on towers etc to miss out is only a setback

And I'm sure there plenty of players/alliances like this, not every bracket is littered with whales nor every competitive alliance

[gaunt gull]

Okay Thanks, I think I will just have to wait for the clock to reset to see if I move in the rank or not. That way I will know if they accumulate or I will just have to buy them every week and collect them until I have 6000.

[wind yew]

6000 is a pain to accumulate but I guess with money thats not a biggie Iol

[thick plume]

the pts from silver 3 to gold 1 is big :v

[delicate void]

It's virtually impossible now to get skins since this change. Previously you could save for months then unleash and hope you get first place or 2nd place twice. now you need 800 gold points for 100 skin vouchers. 1st place is only 20 gold coins so you need to win 40x 1st place lmao... RIP any chance of obtaining skin.

[gaunt gull]

Why is that u get 20 gold points for rank 1,and I get only 8. Is it because of rank differences or what?

[molten pendant]

each bracket has usage rewards capped as well, silver 1 bracket can earn up to 840 hammers - reward for 960 is locked
not sure about if top1 spot in current bracket gives more points towards higher bracket vs lets say top20, but you cannot jump from bronze to gold in single go

be top1 in your bracket over a month or 2 and then you are in overlord

[thick plume]

• u gotta maintain your rank :v

[molten pendant]

if top1 takes just 50 hammers then that is enough

[tired rose]

Everything for point is scam with that reduction

[molten pendant]

if top1 takes 6000 then that is how much you need

[tired rose]

[sage current]

Maybe, but it's still more points than 0

[tired rose]

Not to mention i will already dump all my speed up before last phase since it give better point 🥹

On the bright side if im struggle for point then everyone else too

[lethal schooner]

They have actually done this!

[thick plume]

doesn't the last phase give 20 less points than phase 1?

[tired rose]

Not 20 less point but 20% less point

If you save up for tc ranking you will dump it all on other day not last day

[thick plume]

oooh yeah 20%, they changed the amount per task as well

training phase still gives the most, no?

[tired rose]

Depend

Some ppl can just pop 100m from equipment phase alone

[tired rose]

They shouldnt

[sage current]

Dump the speedups on the first day, use the couple of days worth of speedups you get in the next few days on the last phase.

It's not entirely problematic.

[molten pendant]

yeah i remember when top1 TC spot for first day had 120M points ...

that was TC for Thunder ... in my region - raider TC gets like 180M points top1 at the end of the event

[thick plume]

some whales stopped going for tc since they've got theirs maxed, only killing phase gets them to ranks 1-3 xd

[tired rose]

Infantry tc will always be high on demand when all 3~~(somewhat)~~ is meta 🥹

[molten pendant]

infantry is most f2p friendly in usage costs

with snipers you need to constantly replace wounded units as they are primaried on the filed and die quickly

[sage current]

TC rank 1 is off limits in my region.

[molten pendant]

with infantry you might as well be kind of ignored in bigger battles and just hit someone on the back .. .while having more hp/def helps not to het killed from retaliation

i have been top20 once - entirely f2p. my usual spot is around 45-55 depending on which TC is it

unlocked t5 right when TC hit, trained 400k t4->t5 this one day of TC spending like 50d of training speedups

[hollow gyro]

This is ridiculous DLS, are you really going to eliminate the "defeat enemies" feature from the Top Commander event? Making it more pay to win or what?

How are you going to compensate the "loss" of that important point making feature of that event to many players, even little ones such as myself?

As for Archipelago and Island events, according to what I just read, they will be held every 4 weeks (once a month). Will the rewards change as well? What will happen to the seasonal rewards and such?

[sage current]

Prediction: The rewards won't change.

[tired rose]

No more grinding resources to heal last phase tc instead more grinding irl to buy speed up last phase tc

[rich hamlet]

Let’s not pretend like the defeat enemies in TC made it easier for smaller players to place well lol

I hope these AR/IR changes haven’t come too late

[oblique grove]

Se cayeron los servidores o mantenimiento? Estaba jugando y me conexión perdida

[sage current]

They are still up for me.

[balmy tiger]

So I have a really weird situation but I'm wondering if it's maybe possible to have some fun with it. We had run a relatively new server and actually secured zones 1 and 2, 100% whales and everyone got bored and after some drama everyone basically left. But we're sitting on awesome real estate, 100+ nodes, all cities and gate buffs and I kind of want to give it away to a group of vets that might want to go in and have run amok and have fun with it. Any ideas or suggestions???

[hollow gyro]

Of course not exactly to make Top positions, but to at least complete the daily quests. But that mission, combined with many other during a TC event, gives us a chance against whales, minimal, but still a chance.

[sage current]

You could change the alliance description to "Free alliance!"

[balmy tiger]

That doesn't work, it still needs actives. It'd be more fun to have a pile of bored whales take it over, it's huge with all the buffs from cities and gates

Server is not even 2 months old? Metro isn't even open yet

[sage current]

Okay, "Free alliance to pile of bored whales"

[balmy tiger]

You're not helping.

[sage current]

You're not helping.

Considering some whales are always looking for a new region to wreck, if they go in and see there is territory already established and the description says they can take it over, they are likely to do that.

[balmy tiger]

Odds are...? Not great. I prefer to be more proactive, thanks.

[sage current]

What would you suggest then as a more effective alternative?

[balmy tiger]

Thanks for your suggestion, I'd like to have a more proactive solution.

[sage current]

Alternatively, you could ask everybody you know directly if they know of any large group of whales that want to lose their alliance tech to reestablish in a new territory

[balmy tiger]

It has plenty of alliance tech already.

[sage current]

You could ask everybody you know directly if they know of any large group of whales that want to reestablish in a new territory.

[rich hamlet]

Why don’t you just make friends and join a “whale alliance”? What you are asking here seems like a much harder way to get into a good group

[balmy tiger]

It's not for me to get into a group. Where did I say that? I'm giving away a huge, new alliance.

[barren cloak]

new to game want to know if there is any way to send a mail to the whole alliance where everyone can reply without having to add each person

[rare granite]

GUYU0419

[mystic scaffold]

I completely agree with what you said. Those things do make a difference. I am complaining about people complaining about it haha

I dont like people saying they hate the game, they dont like it, they rather uninstall, but then continue forcing themselves to participate in events they dont like, just for some extra rewards, which in the end doesnt matter.

Yeah matchmaking is awful, but still having higher gear stronger armaments increases the chances to get into higher brackets.

Most of the alliances that feel "unfairly" matched into higher brackets, still have a whale or two in their alliance, or some weak looking people but their ID starts with 18 and they already have gold parts.

[mystic scaffold]

If they dont like it, they need to leave. Thats the only way they can force changes, but they dont leave, exactly because of the FOMO. Missing rewards etc.

They are caught in an eternal limbo.

.
People come here everyday and complain about the same thing and then they go back to the same game and spend the same amount, then wonder why nothing changes.

[prime cypress]

Some ppl told me to receive mail about IR 9h ago ? Does anyone have it ?

[mystic scaffold]

You mean the one with the changes to AR and IR ?

[prime cypress]

I go 0 mail about IR or AR 😭

[mystic scaffold]

Maybe deleted by accident

I send you ss

[prime cypress]

Don't tell me we received an email for the AR and one for the IR today 😑

[mystic scaffold]

Its for both

They are now once a month

Outside of TC, so cant get kill points on TC anymore

[prime cypress]

Of course not, I had already been told about a survey concerning raids every week, I never received this email. I think Igg doesn't like French people 😒

[rich hamlet]

Basically just says IR and AR will be every 4 weeks. So 2 war events a month

[prime cypress]

Yeah Aserias sent me ss 👌

[craggy kettle]

@craggy kettle haii

[young marten]

Καλησπέρα

[slate tulip]

Halo

Help

[sage current]

ok

[scarlet seal]

Look at what I been able to achieve in my short 6 weeks here.. I told you guys as a community we have a stronger voice that we realize .. we forced the devs to open a channel for "honest truth" and now they changed TC back to once a month due to incredible pressure from opinion leaders like my self

I was able to do in 6 weeks to make the game better than what others couldn't do for a year before me that's noteworthy I feel

[sage current]

They were going to revert the changes two days after they made them, before they opened the "honest opinion" thing.

[wind yew]

When was TC ever once a monthM

Did they say they're changing it to once a month?

I don't see that anywhere

[wind yew]

Yeah he thinks 1 HE achieved the changes 2 that they even cared what we said 💀

People complained way more about migration idk where this delulu comes from

[sage current]

I feel like it might be fun and harmless to let it continue.

[wind yew]

🤣🤣🤣

[tacit marsh]

Jesus... I regret opening discord..

[olive turtle]

it's not just IGG.

[rich hamlet]

He thinks TC and AR/IR are the same thing

[sage current]

He's an opinion leader you know.

[wind yew]

🤣

[wind yew]

I just thought about it wouldnt out of anything less TC be a bad thing 🤣

I'd hope the devs dont listen to whoever would suggest that

if theres anything I'd like weekly it'd have been TC

[sage current]

Replace alliance league with TC

[rich hamlet]

Less TC would be awful

I hope they change the prices in the seasonal shop because it will be a lot harder for some people to get IE fragments with only 2 events a month

[sage current]

Or double the rewards

[rich hamlet]

Either lower the cost of double rewards yeah

[sage current]

Some people might throw a fit if the cost were lowered after they already bought stuff

[rich hamlet]

Slim pass that on to the devs please

[rich hamlet]

It wouldn’t make sense to throw a fit though because it would effectively be costing the same

[magic silo]

Just watch how many hammers etc you're going to need to buy to rank in TC now that you have no other options
They know what they're doing

[opaque otter]

@balmy tiger you've said this 4 times already in multiple channels.

[sage current]

More

[prime cypress]

?

[nocturne hawk]

.

[slim bluff]

Being t5 in G1 is fun
Hiding real pain

[silver raft]

Hi I'm new to game is it possible to change servers?

[whole remnant]

Hi, yes this is possible. And as beginner without restrictions (hq <8)

Just scroll out on the map until you see a world icon in the bottom right corner.
There you can see the other regions and start the migration.

[silver raft]

Oh wow thank you so much

[scarlet seal]

Maybe maybe but then again people didnt buy hammers because they didnt think they werent valuable, its because hammers cost $ and the amount of people willing to spend $ is still the same before or after the changes so the same people who were spending will continue to do so.. the hammer event and other events are a perfect example of willingess of people to spend, if you look only the top 10 people or so out of hundreds+ who participate in each region are spending $, that is less than 10% per event of this sort

it shows that the vast majority of people are not spenders, they are f2p players or very very low spenders who only buy gem packs

which just confirms my entire point ever since i got here, the people on discord just happen to belong to older regions where people spend more than other new regions so they assume everyone else is a spender too

[wind yew]

uh no that dosnt mean that, that could just mean they dont want to spend on hammers?

[sage current]

Grand Revival is cross-region.

Sorry if I misunderstood your message and just read the last sentence

[wind yew]

huh? a vast majority of the playerbase is in new regions? this isnt an "older player" concern my region is relateively low spending, so your point dosnt even hit the mark

people dont assume people spend because they're in an older region they assume people spend because they see it with their own eyes

I can assure you younger regions have spenders too, probably less because more people quit earlier out than used to but still spenders, I see a few whales pop out of the womb

[wind yew]

I think hes just saying only so and so many people rank in the hunter event so and so much hence that means that most people arent spenders

which is an abstract way at looking at spenders

[scarlet seal]

The point is for every 100 people that play the game only 10 of them are considered spenders

[wind yew]

I dont buy hammers but I'll still buy stuff

dosnt make me a ftp or low spender

yeah? probably

what of it lol, thats already a high %

[sage current]

And those 10 are the people that pay IGG's bills.

[scarlet seal]

That means the vast vast majority are f2p

[wind yew]

okay?

[scarlet seal]

And thus the game needs to be tailored around the masses not who pays

[sage current]

Why?

[wind yew]

they dont pay the devs bills

they dont care

lol

[scarlet seal]

Like governments they don't tailor laws and rules to the rich onky thry won't get elected tvey

[wind yew]

this isnt the goverment this is igg

[sage current]

Everybody pays the government though

[scarlet seal]

They need to account for the average person that's why so the game needs to be in best interest of the general public

[wind yew]

🤣 \

[wind yew]

I mean it'd be nice but its not what igg has ever really done from what I know

any game they milk that like a cow

im suprised lords mobile is still even standing

[scarlet seal]

Not yet at least but they are being forced to more and more

[wind yew]

no they're not

[scarlet seal]

The voice of the people puts pressure on the company

[wind yew]

tell me how they're being forced to?

[sage current]

How would they ever be forced to... make less money?

[wind yew]

what have they done that was forced on them?

[scarlet seal]

As a f2p player I been thriving and being getting endless event drops considering not everyone does every event not everyone is on more than a few hrs a day not everyone pushes or understands importance of devices or gets carbon from arena etc

Those are extra initiatives that I have to do to get ahead the average player doesn't bother with any od that

[wind yew]

I think the majority of competive players understand

[scarlet seal]

Competitive players are a small %

[wind yew]

I do islands and there are hundreds in each who understand the basics and are active

[sage current]

This doesn't explain how "IGG is being forced to cater to f2p"

[wind yew]

no thats actually a much bigger % than your guessing

where are you getting your statistics?

where are you getting your statistics to make it seem like most players arent grinders etc?

[sage current]

The people who stick around in this game, and at least sometimes usually spend money, are the competitive people.

[wind yew]

the only people I seen like that are old people with like 500k kills who just farm

[scarlet seal]

Most people who wouke get the game are hooked

[wind yew]

and I barely see that

[scarlet seal]

Why would someone leave? It's an amazing game who gets it an- leaves ?

[wind yew]

plenty do

[scarlet seal]

Why leave I am curious

[wind yew]

you should see any game

tons of people uninstal off rip

[wind yew]

because its p2w

[sage current]

All I can say about this game is this: If somebody snipes all the warehouses around me here in 15 minutes, I'm going to throw a temper tantrum.

[wind yew]

dont like the direction of the game etc, you quit

[wind yew]

bruh im dead

[sage current]

I need that fast oil.

[wind yew]

I dont do wearhouse I cant deal with the hooligans running around with a 500% sped up rider march

looking like a rider on steroids

or fkin adut and miya

[sage current]

That's why I just do the ones I can put my shelter right next to

Keep half an eye on it for 45 minutes, then I have some resources.

[wind yew]

that reminds me I should gather the wearhouses when AR ends

and spawn at reset

EZ resources and usually no competition

[sage current]

They're worth it

I'm also hurting right now because I trained 300k t5s in a couple hours

[scarlet seal]

Hiw do you get 500% speed boost

[safe oxide]

[wind yew]

its an exaduration or joke, its more like 50% or something

run up attributes, speed buff etc

[sage current]

😦

They sniped my warehouses

[wind yew]

NOOOO

[glacial jewel]

Can someone tell me? What day is the League of strength?)

[sage current]

Jokes on them, I refuse to protect them out of spite and now the enemy is carrying their cement home.

These people are weird. cynthia/calamity with infantry

[rich hamlet]

You don’t want to be in my AR I always get these lol

[rustic flicker]

whats the best way to get speed ups other than spending real money?

[sage current]

event rewards generally have the most

[grave marten]

How is it possible for someone to locate their base in a restricted area on the map? For example, directly beside a mountain.

[wind yew]

random port

[mighty sage]

Can anybody tell me which heroes are recommended for bounty ground?

[magic silo]

Zombie hunt

[magic silo]

Check discussion in #⭐┊bounty-ground
Generally fast heroes, riders

[mighty sage]

I don’t think I have any riders

[grave marten]

Thanks!

[mighty sage]

How can I change my squad for bounty ground?

I mean water war how can I change my squad for water war?

[final gale]

Just return to the spawn building thing

[rustic flicker]

what level is best

[magic silo]

The highest you can easily kill- slightly more drops. Use 5 zombie hunters to let you kill more longer

[magic silo]

I see where you're coming from but this isn't what's been demonstrated in the past, nor does this really seem like why they made these changes.

[sacred knot]

who's Filipino here?

[crisp thunder]

Anyone have last triangle info Before t6

[whole remnant]

Check this:
#1229708825989480449 message

[waxen pewter]

Has anyone else found the experience in the bounty arena a pain in the neck because your spawn next somebody three times your size and you're killed instantly or three other people respond right next to you and you have no chance to do anything I think if they're going to limit how many troops you can have they need to make everybody the same level same amount of troops same night level otherwise it's just really unfair

[full grotto]

Source : SlimShady

[vagrant helm]

hello

[sage current]

Hello.

[chilly lake]

Niceee

[chilly lake]

Relatable

[sage current]

Odd interview. "... and the recently added Island Raid."

[whole remnant]

The question that really interested me: how much money have you spent on the game so far?

[ebon plover]

Neon Roder skin when the event ?

[noble compass]

sus

[wind yew]

I doubt there's a date sometimes they spring the roulette on you

Not sometimes all the time

[full grotto]

Was looking for that question 😂

Not surprised that they didnt ask him

[tired rose]

They already known why ask?

[tranquil shale]

700 gems for 10 tokens/ 1 box for secret armory is worthless. Wasted lots of gems. Only to get 2 frags...

[final gale]

No links. @chrome bobcat

[tranquil shale]

It's not only troop
They matchmake T4 with T5/T6

It's called gold lobby.

[wind yew]

Oh yeah lol their matchmaking can be pretty sucky with size range

[wind yew]

Shut up I'll ban you

[tranquil shale]

🫣

[final gale]

Ever since they removed the lucky pick crates is horrible

[tranquil shale]

If they make it around 200 gems, then ok

[scarlet seal]

I mean, there is only 3 truly worth it use of gems and that is VIP, Battle Building upgrade and roulette hero spins - bloody brandy and secret armory are never worth it

[tired rose]

🥹

[graceful walrus]

When is the event that makes your building, research, training buff rss consume lowered?

[whole remnant]

We can discuss about bloody brandy, but secret armory is a no brainer. Totally worth the gems.

[scarlet seal]

If you renew a Doomsday Express pack before it expires 15 days into 30 days you want to RENEW do you go back to 30 days or does it push it to 45 days?

[scarlet seal]

But you just heard it your self, a new player mentioned it is worthless he tried to spened 700 gems which is A LOT considering bloody brandy is only 300 per pull

[whole remnant]

How does this change the worth you get back for your gems? It might be 700 gems, but you get 100% at least 1 legendary fragment and a good chance for more fragments or the whole item.
Doesn't matter what some new player is thinking

If you open other boxes than legendary it's your fault

[scarlet seal]

i didnt know 100% to get 1 legendary, in fact i am not even 24 HQ so this secret armoy event i am MISSING completely

what is crazy is that i cant even partake in the event its ahuge miss, how often does this event come around? very few people are hq 24 in my area so its weird this event is for 24 + when so few people are 24

[scarlet seal]

do you get to choose what box to open? i will figure it out when i can actyally try it

[full grotto]

[whole remnant]

Sure you can and you have a free reset every 8 hours.

[scarlet seal]

oh i see there is only 2 red boxes available which are legendary, you ge t 1 FREE frefresh

[wind yew]

I believe that goes to 45d

Unless changed

[scarlet seal]

excellent that is what i was hoping for

so you should only be opening RED BOXES in secret armory and hitting free refresh evey 8 hours then

[wind yew]

I go all in on bloody brandy

I need two more blue polymer to get a purple part on my bag 🥹😭

[scarlet seal]

why on bloody brandy and NOT secret armoy? Why is bloody brandy better?

[wind yew]

I'm scavenging for gems

I do both

But you don't need many gems for secret armory

Refreshing every 8 hrs potentially you dont get red chests for all of them

[scarlet seal]

as a priority of gem investmnet would u say its: VIP 11 - Battle station - Roulette - Bloody/Secret - Boosts from VIP?

[wind yew]

At best takes me a few thousand gems

[magic silo]

Brandy is MUCH worse value than it used to be imo.
Mostly because parts are much worse value than they used to be

[whole remnant]

Not me, I always get this tape thing I absolutely don't need as rider main🥹

[wind yew]

True just because armaments are on top

It's more worth it as a whale now atleast

If your gona max armaments might as well pick up the extra stats

[scarlet seal]

a post above said he wasted a lot of gems and only got 2 frags, so it seems he was doing something wrong

[wind yew]

No its all based on luck

You get supreme chests and hope for a full legendary piece, even if you don't get one enjoy the frags they add up

[magic silo]

Not just riders. All those backpacks too.
I'm drowning in tape and starving for ammo boxes all the time 🥲

[scarlet seal]

this is an example of how the devs made the game way more diffiucult for new players, the older players had it a lot easier in some aspects than new so its no wonder some players are over 100M in might when now even to hit 25M is a massive struggle

[wind yew]

For a few hundred gems it'll add up and still worth it compared to using them on ports or something random or speeds

Atleast for me the slight increment in my stats will add up

[wind yew]

Easier in which regard?

Just because we could focus on brandy dosnt mean it was exactly easier

[magic silo]

It's arguably better for new players.
Think of all the old players who sunk so much effort and money into borderline obsolete miniscule stats on parts?

[wind yew]

The cost is the same the drops are the same

If anything new players atleast know to focus on armaments before parts

[scarlet seal]

easier as in the rewards were better as you said and things in VIP store was offered at reduced prices, higher points for beter rewards in events its how i picture it was in the past

[wind yew]

So yeah ari is right arguably it is actually worse for older players in this regard

[magic silo]

Do you know how expensive it is to max a part? A new player can focus on armaments from the start and let parts develop as they go.
Be way stronger than a comparable might person

[wind yew]

Wdym I never said that

[scarlet seal]

armnaments come from secret armory so that takes precendent over bloody brandy tho right

[wind yew]

Rewards def dropped in events though or just losing an event like DS to bring back IR

But oof the rewards to me atleast are worse

Events way more time intensive for the same if not worse atleast individual rank wise

[whole remnant]

It starts again, the daily discussion with slim vs mods

[wind yew]

Have to use way more resources worse troop returns etc, I like IR though so I'll still participate in it

[scarlet seal]

i am not at 24 yet i am 23 and i cant wait to see what this "part"" is

[wind yew]

Part isn't an armament

[scarlet seal]

i am almost cought up to every element of the game i am miissing the arnament part

[wind yew]

Parts are the things unfer your gear on your profile

[magic silo]

Also for brandy, now you can buy purple polymer from the wasteland shop for a fairly reasonable amount of gold coins.
That's HUGE. Previously next to impossible to get enough and that's the main bottleneck for parts

[wind yew]

Yeah but my azz almost never gets gold coins to be fair

🥹

[scarlet seal]

i can buy 1 purple for 3 gold coins

[wind yew]

Give me your gold coins baby 🥹🥹🥹

[scarlet seal]

3 gold coins takes weeks to accumulate is that good value for just 1 poly?

to even get 1 gold coin u have to finish top 20 which takes so many saving of weeks of resources

[wind yew]

Only thing I'm buying rn, I'd love to get that device but getting it with no stars will take a while not to mention my purple piece maxed out prob gona do better than it

That's what I'd actually love to buy if I was being a rich kud

Kid*

[scarlet seal]

which device you talking about in what store

[wind yew]

You prob can't see it im guessing bc HQ level

Device is an armament thing just more rare and harder to get

[scarlet seal]

so you would say the best thing to use GOLD coins on is purple poly and devices?

[magic silo]

Yeah it's actually beneficial to tank ranking to like silver 2. You can still buy them, but the competition is muuuch lower

And yeah, f the devices and superbs. Need to be ranked way too high haha

[wind yew]

I don't get devices right now too expensive and rakes too long and I feel like my maxed purple device gona do better than a 0 star golden one

[mystic scaffold]

Noo

[wind yew]

Only gold device I got is from AR ranks

[mystic scaffold]

Dont you only get like 12 gold coins for first rank in silver 2 ?

[scarlet seal]

in my AR they are offering devices as part of some daily missions but they are only purple why are they not giving GOLD devices considering how hard AR is

[wind yew]

idk about silver im in plat its 60 coins

but im rank 61 so I aint getting sht

[wind yew]

you need alot of points

[scarlet seal]

different ranks only unlock new buying options in the store, how do ranks affect competition?

[wind yew]

I get 2 device frags ((gold) for 46m points and 3 more for 80m points

then if you rank high you can get more

you need 30 for one piece so you got to grind alot

[scarlet seal]

it simpsosible to reach that high of a score without pvp

[wind yew]

yez

probably

[scarlet seal]

i did absolutely 0 pVP in AR

[wind yew]

unless you've saved as a zombie farmer for 2million years

[mystic scaffold]

It is possible

[magic silo]

Lower ranks don't buy materials hardly at all.
I got 1 gold reward for 50 hammers last round lol

[wind yew]

oh training

I forgot

[scarlet seal]

you cant be wasting 2x and 5x on zombies if you are saving for infantry TC

[wind yew]

you just need to be mr richy rich to train 80m points

LOL

[scarlet seal]

you need to get as many TC points as you can why waste ur zombie on AR

[mystic scaffold]

I did 2 islanda with 1m fighting points and 79m training points

[wind yew]

shut up money man

[scarlet seal]

you cant do training either u need training boosts for TC

[mystic scaffold]

[scarlet seal]

nmaybe AFTER u finished ur TC heros then u have all the time in the world to boost in AR

[wind yew]

I dont need Mr moist telling me what to do

[scarlet seal]

but for me first play through first few weeks every boost is precious i cant be competitive in AR yet

[wind yew]

yeah but you decide

do you train or fight etc

[mystic scaffold]

Fetch

Mhehehehe

[wind yew]

I got whooped this AR though hitting 80m points was painful

internet crashed and I got 400k put in my hospital on 4 accounts

T6 each

[mint pine]

Hope it hurts for a while 🤡

[wind yew]

that hospital bill would make a grown man cry

[mystic scaffold]

Same....crashed and ran into safeme and danny

[wind yew]

praying for you

[mystic scaffold]

This problem needs to be fixed asap

[scarlet seal]

are your competition based on region or ranks in these events tho

are you saying the wasteland event lobbies arent regional they are based on ranks?

[mystic scaffold]

Yes

[wind yew]

depends on rank

[magic silo]

The troop phase rewards in AR are much much better than what you get for TC. I actually usually did AR training to max those phase rewards even when saving for TC.
The key is also starting max troop training batches like a week earlier

[wind yew]

I think he means for placement

[mystic scaffold]

I am getting 12 gold for 120.

[wind yew]

rather unlock a hero than a few fragments, I can agree to some extent depends on the hero

might struggle to unlock heros without kill phase LOL

let me start saving my training speeds

[mystic scaffold]

The rewards at lower tier are just unfair

[scarlet seal]

8 golds is the max u can get in 1 event as top prize

[magic silo]

Maybe it translates better, but you can't sustain higher ranks without consistently buying the materials, so I don't even compare them haha

[wind yew]

EVERYONE DOSNT SPEND 10K A WEEK LIKE YOU ASERIAS

[mystic scaffold]

My farms are in bronce and i see people using 400 hammers for 6 gold first place or something.

In master 400 hammers goves you over 20 gold sometimes

[wind yew]

btw slim aserias spends 10k USD every week

best whale here

[mystic scaffold]

I am pooooor wdym

[wind yew]

no I saw your card transactions

[magic silo]

Anyone not buying left and right can do that exactly once haha

[wind yew]

5k weekly on your 200k might alt too

[scarlet seal]

haha i know people say that but dont believe them when they tell you people do spend i believe that, but not consistantly and not the same amount

if you see someone spend 10k one day for an event that is their one time big spenmd it doesnt mean they do that reguarly every week

[mystic scaffold]

I am lucky that I have never used a single item before the change so I have like 6k each. I can just do the 120 for a long time

[wind yew]

I believe it, my mom spent 200k on a game we used to play so I know firsthand whales exist lmao and she only ranked top 30 on the game and it was vastly smaller than this one

whales spend tens of grands some maybe 10k a month maybe 10k a year maybe 10k a week

[scarlet seal]

how can your mom afford that if you guys dont come from money

[mystic scaffold]

I disagree kindly

[wind yew]

because she works for it

[mystic scaffold]

We have whales spending 50k per week

[wind yew]

made her own buisness she got money

[scarlet seal]

what kind of a parent plays video games to be honest most parents dont even text or use wahats app

my parents are in their 60s they hardly use their mobile phones at all

[wind yew]

most people on this game are an older playerbase wym?

I have parents in my alliance regularly playing

[scarlet seal]

my alliance are also full of parents but they are in their 40s

i am talking bout your mom, i am assuming she is in her 60s?

[wind yew]

yeah most probably are 40s+

no

im 19

my mom was in her 30s when she spent that

[scarlet seal]

oh wow ok

[magic silo]

And here is one arguing with their internet child.
On that note I'm gonna go get my kids 😆

[mystic scaffold]

Isnt it bed time already

[wind yew]

LOL

[scarlet seal]

Panda how do we best support your youtube channel

[mystic scaffold]

Come with me to DHX. Safeme will make us whales

[scarlet seal]

do u take donations and sponsorships? with the amount of $ being spent on this game i am surprised more people dont contribute to your content

[wind yew]

well a few people buy my membership

[scarlet seal]

how much is it?

[wind yew]

I post some videos that I dont upload there so they can enjoy those, early posts whatever, I appreciate them getting it at all

there are tiers, lowest prob is a dollar

or 5 I dont even remember

[mystic scaffold]

Not the YouTube one tho

[wind yew]

probably 1

[wind yew]

dont get me banned, we dont talk about the spicy app

[scarlet seal]

Thhing is you can sell this content for good $ people in this game are older demographic with $$ they wont mind paying for curated guides

[wind yew]

not a big deal to me

[scarlet seal]

if it can help them get ahead people will pay $50-$100 per consulting session or per guide

[wind yew]

I didnt start posting expecting big money anyways

[mystic scaffold]

I am joining you in #1

[wind yew]

I just like to make videos

few extra bucks is nice put some in my savings

[scarlet seal]

good for you Panda you are a good creator and not greedy

i appreciate that its honestly great to see that

[mystic scaffold]

"Summoning Pickle"

[mint pine]

👣

[wind yew]

if I can rob an old man I would im batman but I dont save people

GIVE ME THAT PURSE

[mint pine]

Panda bullying old people

[wind yew]

and?

[lucid sleet]

u helped me alot in the beginning bro ty

[mint pine]

That’s content that will pay probably

[wind yew]

ITS NOT YOUR PROBLEM

[wind yew]

[mint pine]

DONT SCREAM AT ME YOU BULLY

[wind yew]

DO YOU GET CANDY FROM OLD LADIES? NO SO SHUTIT

[mint pine]

I get sugar from someone that you’d never get 🫠

[lucid sleet]

Old people are scarry but i love when i rob them

[mystic scaffold]

Banned

[wind yew]

see? im teaching people the right things

[mint pine]

[wind yew]

aserias said he only loved me....

[lucid sleet]

We love free money so why not

[tired rose]

Oh god i missed the fun part

🥹

[abstract crater]

Can't crimson be 1 fraction with azzure? Or leftside always vs rightside?

[tranquil shale]

1 leggy frag for 700gems is worth? For it may be. But for F2p it is not

[echo goblet]

Hello, should i spend gems on bloody brandy

or save them for roulette

[dull trench]

sorry for this ignoratn question, im kind of confuse.. Are all DEATH in AR returned once event is finish?

[sage current]

No, only 70% of them. Allegedly.

I personally think it isn't 70% though but I only estimated instead of counting

[dull trench]

Roger that Commander.. Thank you.. I will be careful with my death in this case.. haha.. for IR is it the same around 70%?

[sage current]

Yes

Just make sure your hospital doesn't fill up and you shouldn't have too many deaths--just from rallies and such.

[wind yew]

you can get it up to 75% FYI but you need the priv subscription

[dull trench]

Oh Ok.. thanks.. is it worth to get PRIV SUBS?

[dull trench]

copy.. thank you

[whole remnant]

It is the miminum you can get. So the average worth is higher.

[wind yew]

I think privlage subscription is worth it if you fight alot, they give you a few other things too you can view it

5% extra returns when I lose 200-300k troops every IR or AR is worth for me for slight returns

[dull trench]

Thank you! Appreciate the clarification and suggestions.

[scarlet seal]

what is a purple helmet frag and when can u use them at what hq level?

[wind yew]

HQ 24 and you can use 30 of those to craft a helmet

[scarlet seal]

it only comes purple or legendary

30 purple to craft a helmet and the stats are always the same on each helment? or is it rng

how do u upgrade the helmet?

[lofty furnace]

with another helmet

[wind yew]

same stats for each craft depends on whatever your crafting

[wind yew]

you have purple green etc but not that great unless you've nothing else

[unborn burrow]

Send me yours😝

[wind yew]

Send me my 100$ first 🤓

[unborn burrow]

🤣

[rustic flicker]

the worst thing in this game is the wait time to have something level up

why is the water event 2 days

[sage current]

I like to think it's because it's too boring to play more than two rounds in a row

[rustic flicker]

ehh i finished the reward thing in like 3 matches

2 days is to long unless you add more rewards for it

[graceful pebble]

anyone know who kefodvy24 is?

[rustic flicker]

what do you get for attacking other players?

ohh you get wood or food

[wind yew]

kills or resources IF they have any

[rustic flicker]

so on this one thing im like top 10 but i cant beat the other things any idea what i can do to fix that?

[jaunty spade]

No idea

[jaunty spade]

Ion understand your question

[rustic flicker]

The arena thing

I'm not sure what I gotta do to make my guys better

[jaunty spade]

Awaken them, get better armaments, full researched tech, get max weapon equipments 😆

[coral ferry]

Hey there
I had migrated to another region and got 30 days restriction so am I able to take part in the TOP COMMANDER quest or not

Please can someone answer This

[sage current]

Has it been 30 days?

[coral ferry]

No

Just 5 days

[scarlet seal]

what is the maximum alliance gift level, 10?

i thought for every 10 levels the glory chest goes up by 1, so to get to glory chest 2 you need to be level 11

[wind yew]

The max level is undetermined people have gone up to 30+

[wind yew]

You should be restricted

[scarlet seal]

the right answer is you can still do TC for rewards but not get ranked rewards in the end

[coral ferry]

Okay got it thanks

[lunar locust]

Question, do we get capture rewards on Level 7 if we capture it second? This might be stupid question, I just need confirmation 🤣

[wind yew]

No only first cap 🙂

[rustic flicker]

I feel like theres a wall you hit in this game for new players 😭

[lunar locust]

Ok thanks Pande!

[rustic flicker]

This the same panda dude from YouTube?

[wind yew]

Yessir

[wind yew]

Deffo although im sure the one your thinking is far different than me, different stages in the game yet whales can still dominate each one lol

At some point hitting T6 you can still be beefy but only so much you can grind armaments and gear, just try to take good fights where you can know your enemy

Ain't about to 1:1 some 5m might heros

[rustic flicker]

like im townhall level 15 or what ever you wanna call the main building and just feel like im stuck

[wind yew]

Progression probably slows down although that's still a relatively low level 25 is max I probably hit it within a few months I forget since it was so long ago but tbh building is the least of your worries tech is the long game

I recommend saving your universal speedups it might feel tempting now but you'll regret it later

[rustic flicker]

your saying it takes months to get to lets say level 22-23? lol thats crazy considering i found this app from a advertisement type deal thing

[sage current]

Months if you don't speed up. Less if you do. Collectively, it will all be a lot of the months.

[terse mist]

No live broadcast for the thailand venue championship on YouTube???

[wind yew]

im not sure where they're broadcasting the only thing I saw was the official site

[rustic flicker]

maybe the new event will be better than the water one

only issue i have with the water one is theres not enough rewards like put alot more awards for people who wanna grind the game

i like the one where you shoot the zombies on the tower thing with the bullets you get

[dusky mist]

hola como esta

[jovial crypt]

Where is the new event

[ebon plover]

Where can i see the new skin for rider neon ?

[slim bluff]

Definitely not in game

[tawny imp]

Hello guys.... Lunch 😋

[remote hatch]

Who is better thunder Peterson or Eddie?

[magic silo]

#🦸┊hero-n-armaments

[sly meteor]

What region PIS is?

I wanna know, why HNB and PIS are competing for championship. And how they're match up are made? Someone please answer me.

[gaunt patrol]

It’s not specifically a single alliance in the teams.

It’s just a tag that the team leaders chose when they registered 💁🏾‍♂️

[mystic scaffold]

Regions are not involved.
Team leaders send invitations to people from different places and formed a team. After the registration period ended they invited the 2 teams with the highest might to play in this tournament.

Now before people complain that its whales who were chosen because of the might thing.

I believe it is a good thing.

Nobody wants to see some random unknown people compete for somethings.

Having the top whales like Hansz, Safeme and the rest compete is much more interesting to see.

Now you can see those whales that many know compete against each other on fair and equal grounds. They dont have whale power in the tournament, its just skill and strategy now.

[river nexus]

Hi guys, is there an updated tc points sheet? Can someone please help me with that?

[tranquil shale]

Is doomsday a skill Based game?

[magic silo]

Have a feeling the next one will be totally new

[river nexus]

Yes I noticed the heroes in tc and the roulette, I thought it would be different

[magic silo]

No I mean they just changed TC again, the points.
The in game mail, kill phase and pvp apparently not part of it? No overlap with pvp events anymore either

[river nexus]

Yes you're right. But I think there may be a few more changes

[scarlet seal]

what is phenomenal for TC is that people wont be able to get kills from PVP anymore to fill their scores so to win TC it will be a lot lower scores

before people used to run up into high millions due to PVP scores but now only diligent people who save boosts can win TC

no more easy wins for pvpers so to win TC will require a LOT less points than before

[magic silo]

Oh my poor naive friend.
Only those who spend a lot on hammers etc, roulette tokens, and armament hones and trackers***

[magic silo]

Just watch. This will be good

[scarlet seal]

mky friend, the same amount of spenders who were spending in previous TC will contnue the number of spenders wont change my friend

but the total number of TC points WILL be reduced the changes DO NOT impact spenders

so the total requirement before was like 50M to get top 10 now it will be about 20-30% less if you remove PVP points

its like there isnt going to be suddently an influx of new spenders right? if people wanted to spend they would have already

so in theory TC will be a lot more fair and less stressful now

[magic silo]

Pvp was also the only gameplay element of TC.
They could have dropped the amount of points for it or capped it.
And most people were using pvp TO SAVE STUFF 😅
I could get phase rewards for over half the phases without spending anything I saved. Now I can't.

[scarlet seal]

tahts my point TC will now only reward SAVERS

and diligent savers are F2p players, you cant BUY your way into TC the only way people were winning TC was with PVP

sure you could buy hammers androulette but that is only for half the phases

[magic silo]

Which is incredibly boring.
Nobody was winning tc off of pvp who wasn't already a spender

That's insane to think

[scarlet seal]

well the changes were made for the casual player in mind

[magic silo]

You can shift the total points and change nothing

[scarlet seal]

these changes will benefit the casuals just watch the TC requirements will be lower than before if u remove pvp points

[magic silo]

The changes were made because people will spend more.
They didn't have to spend in a bunch of phases, now they do.

[scarlet seal]

i am about to enter my first competitive TC after saving for 5 weeks for Thunder

[magic silo]

Nice well hopefully it's a dead region for you

[scarlet seal]

the biggest impact on wnning o losing TC is actually how competitive your region is

[magic silo]

5 weeks would not be enough most places

[scarlet seal]

if you are in a slow or dead or uncompetitibe region winning TC looks a lot different than someone in a older region

its like night and day so their experience and their results will vary dramatically

[magic silo]

I've been in some of those too

[scarlet seal]

some people said they saved for 4 months

but again an average person what they can save in a month i can save in a week because i play at a higher level and i collect a lot more and i save a lot more

when people say they "save" they actually mean they spend here and there and they power their heros here and there, but i actually didnt spend a dime till TC

[magic silo]

I saved longer than that and won the first thunder TC in our region as free to play.
Back then it wasn't a competitive region. Only 2 whales, and a bunch of medium spenders.
I still almost got beat by a whale.
Know what saved me ironically? Pvp points

Tc was a little different then, only the last day was "challenge phase" and efficiency dictates you use everything in phase 1 for the better points.
So by challenge phase you don't have anything left to pull ahead of someone else.
Nothing but actual effort of finding pvp targets and using the rss and heal speeds you'd painstakingly been hoarding for months

But yeah, competitive Farmville is neat too

[mystic scaffold]

Kindly read what I said again.

In the tournament, yes.

[scarlet seal]

i keep hearing this but why is phase 1 more important than last phase if the point are the same its not like first phase is 2x points

[whole remnant]

Do you guys train cars more than one squad?
I have one squad of the highest tier what is good for raiding some dead shelters and some T1 for warzone, but does it make any sense to train more? They just fill my hospital in case of an attack and more good troops will die if hospital is full fast.

[oak nymph]

Hello! Does anyone knows, can I exchange unversal fragment to Mia's fragments after KOF event ends?

[magic silo]

they are worth more points..

[magic silo]

i keep training t5 cars tbh and use them in hq raids during pvp events or clearing inactives like you say.
Or for gathering phases of TC it's a LOT of extra rss using higher tiers, adds up

[scarlet seal]

What is worth more points

[magic silo]

like speedups in phase 1 are worth more than in challenge phase

[whole remnant]

How many T5 cars you need to clear a lvl 6 node? 5k? Would be 20k for 4 squads and like 250k for raiding, so in total 270k to get this done (if you don't have rallies in parallel). So any more car would be waste of rss and highers the risk of losing good troops when getting zeroed, or do I miss something?

[full grotto]

dude.......

[magic silo]

I didn't even see this one. You said you don't even hunt zombies that much

[magic silo]

no that sounds right, though it doesn't seem to hurt me too bad, and i burn through them enough

[dry gyro]

On the lucky roulette, there is a meter that gets filled up, and if we fill it up we get more and more extra rewards. Do anyone know how many gems we need to spend to actually max rewards once?

[whole girder]

#🎮┊game-news message

Make a new event for invitations that are expiring

[lethal schooner]

Yes you will be able to upgrade mai with universal frags, but it will take double the frags to do so compared to the standard ledgendary heroes. So she will be a very expensive hero to build up

[radiant quest]

Hello

[whole remnant]

you are my hero. But please share your success with is with a screenshot

[oak nymph]

Thanks a lot

[rain mortar]

[rich hamlet]

When people say they save, they mean they save. Out of curiosity in 5 weeks how much training and Research speedups have you saved?

[glad moth]

Hello kind people. Could anyone tell me what Chun is good for? Can she be used in pair with Jin to attack infantry towers?

[olive gale]

How do we identify who is collecting half of the resources from the resource nodes in an alliance?

[nocturne hawk]

Morning

[sage current]

Try asking first. If that doesn't work, just watch who harvests where.

[olive gale]

The correct answer I got from someone, we need to click on the three dots ... And check who harvest before. Thanks for replying

[sage current]

Oh damn. Today I learned that is there

[dull trench]

Hello team!

Is this correct, engine take 21 days to for research?

Tier 4 engine

[full grotto]

If you mean T4 troops then yeah, something like that. Took between 2-3weeks iirc

[dull trench]

Spicy!! thanks bro

I though I was just seeing things.. hahahhaa.

[full grotto]

Ain't no way 😂

[sage current]

I've never had a reason to know 😦

[full grotto]

Fair point. I had to figure it out due to some people on AR leaving node at like 10k of 1.2mil

[sage current]

I've never really cared on a personal level about unfinished nodes unless it's absolutely every node nearby, and in AR I just expect it.

[final gale]

Is hard to blame during AR

Expect enemies comes in or if they suddenly got a war calling

[final gale]

Exactly