🪙┊refinery-n-auction

[lilac sorrel]

The Ranged Squad Atk would apply only to ranged troops, so it's useless unless equipped by your Ranged Squad section. The Squad Atk at which point would appear as Squad Atk (Ranged), meaning it's only applying to range as well. If you wanted to circumvent the Ranged Squad ATK all together and equip the piece on Infantry, then it would show as Squad Atk (Infantry), and only apply to your Infantry Troops. It applies to whatever troop type you equip it to.

[crude grotto]

If not count basic attributes, left or right? And a stupid question, is there any formular to tell X% atk is better than Y% squad DMG

[charred aurora]

@lilac sorrel would probably know this

[carmine crystal]

How much for this should I place?

[weary crest]

That equation involves variables that change

The squad damage piece has garbage basic stats its for smelting

The double infantry attack is probably worse for overall damage output unless your attack % is low

If you made the purple attack stats higher % it would probably be better but it depends on your stats whats your squad damage and attack currently whats your skill damage bonus everything matters

The equation is not just simple x is better than y

[carmine crystal]

Hmmm so i should keep it

[weary crest]

The squad damage piece is selling high right now look up a similar one price according

[onyx basalt]

4100 tickets at 22.8% chance of legendary, only 2 obtained

Fake af the odds as usual

[crude grotto]

Yes, I know. I bought this for smelting only.

[vocal current]

? what you mean

[craggy goblet]

💀

[vocal current]

[craggy goblet]

Mine seem roughly in line with the odda

Mostly useless stuff though

So idk if I'll try selling them

[vocal current]

The useless it is the better
It gives you more room for smelting

[craggy goblet]

I want stuff to sell though

[errant dust]

a

[willow cypress]

if your basic attack damage is 100 and squad atk is 300%. if you have 6% squad attack buff then your squad basic attack damage will become 100(1+3.06%)=406. and with same basic atk dmg and squad att and if you apply 2.8% squad damage buff then your basic attack will become 100(1+3.00) x 1.028=411.2. I think this is why it has higher might bro

[craggy goblet]

oh its taleb

[vocal current]

I sell a legendary item with one good legendary attribute
Cheaper then a legendary items with 3 common much needed attributes

[vocal current]

Got me

[errant dust]

no more gold for u

big whale

[craggy goblet]

Gib gold

[errant dust]

all linked TT

I sold 23k worth today

[craggy goblet]

Buy this I'll post for 23k

[errant dust]

gimme the 3 gold stat for 200g 😄

[vocal current]

Oh show us that triplet of legendary attributed👀

[craggy goblet]

Only 1 useful stat.
I only kept it because rider dmg red

[craggy goblet]

I'll sell it for 200 if you get me one with 2 rider dmg/red

[errant dust]

hmmmm

Ill craft one for u tomorrow

[craggy goblet]

prings a secret dev

[vocal current]

I can make use of it in smelting, but am chasing the perfect triplet first

[errant dust]

no no no

[craggy goblet]

I wish I could, best I've seen is a single dmg/reduction with counter dmg

[errant dust]

keep checking auction, some newbie might have listed 3 stat gears

[vocal current]

I wish we can name items

[craggy goblet]

I'm gonna keep that one anyway if I can get a good double I'll smelt it

[vocal current]

I tried I even sleept in the auction

[lavish pond]

From my experience, if a piece doesn't sell within 2 hours after being listed, it will not sell at all.

[errant dust]

really depends

most my items sold after a day

except the really good stats I sold for 200g xd

[worn quiver]

Ok one thing...why is percentage of higher attributes cant be increased by lower...if you have 3 atk and 1. Atk ..3 atk is being used to enhance 1 and not the opposite..

[errant dust]

it'd give everyonemax stats quickly

[willow cypress]

my product that I listed for 12k has got sold 4 hours before it expire from store

[timber oracle]

How much can sell?

[errant dust]

holyfuck

was that the one worth 19k gold I saw earlier but now smelted

can prolly go 30-40k

[flint crag]

huge

[charred aurora]

HOLY SHIIT

thats crazy

that means you can actually role 3 squad damage

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[worn quiver]

How much try dude

[worn quiver]

Well i shall try to be patient next time perhaps

[vocal current]

Do you take slave contracts?

[peak lintel]

my farm lucky

[willow cypress]

farm accounts are getting better equipment than mains.

[peak lintel]

Legit

[vocal current]

Yeah but it's good for nothing

[peak lintel]

Not really if you decided to flip it to yourself at a small price or even sell it in my case to buy auto gathers for my farms lmao

[vocal current]

If you try smelting it it get you from+0% to +7% randomly

[craggy goblet]

sell then buy ace survivor

[peak lintel]

That's why you do it incrementally.

Don't just throw it on a random piece

[peak lintel]

What do you think I should price this for

[tribal rose]

Your farm becoming steonger than my main

[craggy goblet]

No idea, maybe a few k

Try 5k see if anyone buys?

[peak lintel]

im just tryna get a decent price for it but idk a good upper one without going too high

[dense ivy]

Sell me i give you 10$

[peak lintel]

Id prob sell it to bigd or something if the market wasn't so annoying

[craggy goblet]

$50 and 10 feet pics-panda probably

[peak lintel]

Listing and sht are too weird

I hate having to time stuff like this

[dense ivy]

Last offer 4$

[craggy goblet]

I don't trust it enough to try.
I'm just selling from farm

[peak lintel]

Same just get auto gather

The rss I get will help our fighters more anyways

Bigd will understand

[dense ivy]

I am
Having pizza pande you need ?

[craggy goblet]

mine now

[dense ivy]

[stuck gust]

What u think, how much is it worth?

[peak lintel]

Are those good? Ive never had any like that

[craggy goblet]

Whats it say

[dense ivy]

It is yummy

[craggy goblet]

Looks like cheese pizza with extra cheese over the crust

[tribal rose]

Let me take a photo with my Nokia Brick and in different language and ask how much this equipment costs

[boreal magnet]

I offer you 500 🤣🤣🤣
By the way it worth 2k actually.

[stuck gust]

Hahaha

[boreal magnet]

What it says?

[pallid shadow]

troop atk and ... something related to skill in basic.
specials are squad load, infantry attack, and femkampftruppen attack which I will guess is ranged but I don't really know German

[stuck gust]

6% inf attack dmg, 16% troop load and 3,9 ranged attack dmg

And base Stats: troop dmg and Skills dmg

[craggy goblet]

3.9 range dmg sells well for smelting

[pallid shadow]

This is attack though, not damage, right?

[stuck gust]

Jes Attack

I think 6 Attack for infantry is very good?!

[craggy goblet]

Oh just atk

6% atk should sell at least.
Idk how much maybe 1k

[flint topaz]

Is this something worth selling for a good prize? I got them with green values at low prize and went upgrading them

[pallid shadow]

The squad damage red ones are worth peoples time. I don't know what anybody really sells for though--it seems like people just make up prices.

[craggy goblet]

I think you can get at least 2k for the last 3

Maybe even more idk what megawhales will buy at

[vestal sequoia]

Price check

[high yacht]

Cheese with a side of pizza, I like that 👍

[weary crest]

500

[normal imp]

Hi

Please can someone give me a giftcode for shelter skin or any other rewards

Is there any available gift code

[pallid shadow]

I don't think they've ever done a code for a skin.
Any gift code would be posted in #🎊┊giftcode but I don't know if there are any active ones at the moment.

[latent igloo]

Hola

[weary crest]

500

[normal imp]

Please they're requiring server to follow

[nimble plume]

With rider squad dmg and rider squad dmg reduction?

Lol

[normal imp]

What server should I use
I have non

[weary crest]

Ok 550

[pallid shadow]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[weary crest]

You should not play this game

[fresh steeple]

the whole attributes not being able to be honed is kind of lame... its all rng and luck and $$$ then..

[nimble plume]

Any ideia of what I could sell this for?

[pallid shadow]

damage and damage reduction of the same type, somebody might pay decently for it. It's better than a lot of the stuff I see people trying to sell.

Not sure an exact number. Everyone seems to pick arbitrary ones and it either sells or doesn't

[pastel sphinx]

Selling this 200

[pastel sphinx]

If I seen this earlier I would've offered you 4000

But I already bought a 3.9% DMG reduction sadly

Though, I might keep you in check if you still have it by the end of the week.

[spring yew]

Is this something anyone would be interested to buy?

Listing it for 229 gold. Is that fair?

[slate copper]

Ive seen lots of good deal but cant buy any with linked gold

Its hard to sell purple equipment

[stiff veldt]

How much should I input?

[spring yew]

I'm just going to have to keep trying. I need the gold. I'll try enhancing it even more if it doesn't sell this round.

[normal vine]

Can we buy equipment and then sell it

[weary crest]

Yes merchants making bank

[normal vine]

I found a really good equipment selling for only 200 i could easily resell it for like 1k 🫣

[slate copper]

try with gold, trying to sell something that hardly sell only make you lose more gold

[spring yew]

I will. I haven't been lucky with the forging.

[normal vine]

Where can i find smelting material

[slate copper]

you get 5 blue ores per day

or buy the chest

[gray crescent]

Worth few k

[vocal current]

You would pay 2k if you looking for the rider part
But you would pay 1k for the ranged part
It depends on the buyer need

[gray crescent]

Ok i have
Springfield 2 line
DMG inf and RED DMG inf

[pastel sphinx]

Selling 3.1 Rdr DMG red - 1499

[minor oxide]

price it

[worn quiver]

How much ..will it sell?

[stiff veldt]

Possible price

[stiff veldt]

I have listed same but one purple 1000 gold but noone bought it still 20 hours left

[normal vine]

Where do i find smelting materials?

[soft barn]

You need another gold item with a higher buff of the same type

[flint topaz]

you can use any legendary armament of the same type (tactical weapon type, not mandatory to be another suicide drone) with a higher infantry squad def specialized attribute

just a bit higher and improve it little by little, it already happened to me that tried to improve from blue to golden values and I stayed in blue after melting 🥹

[storm gazelle]

indeed

[normal vine]

I got like 3 same vest

But it’s not allowing me 🤔

Do other also need to have like same stat ?

[soft barn]

Yes and of a higher value

[normal vine]

Oh ok thanks

[onyx basalt]

you need to wait 3 days

[gray crescent]

WTS helmet 7% DEF rider

[stuck gust]

WTB Rider Equipment with golden Stats, Write me

[noble saddle]

mp for sell

[vocal current]

Am back

[vocal current]

Did you buy it ? 👀 🧐

[gray crescent]

I made it

Its a delisting

[vocal current]

Is it all ranged I can't translate vietnamese

[gray crescent]

Its RIDER

[inner condor]

Done

[vocal current]

3×?

[zinc patio]

Cant sell antyhing too now i think its over guys whale already maxed their stuff

[vocal current]

Don't think so

No one at lvl 50 yet

[zinc patio]

👀 💸

[celest finch]

Good morning, I'm selling this for 250 gold.

I'm already tired of porridge.

[gray crescent]

I have a lot of rider stuff

[vocal current]

To cheap
At least start with 1k
You need to think of the attribute that are active

[celest finch]

I get pure horsemen, sometimes shots, but no infantry.

[zinc patio]

True thats why we cant sell anything if people do price like that for a 2 stats stuff

[gray crescent]

I have inf too, but it not smelted

[vocal current]

If anyone have a lucky item with 3 active ranged attribute even if it's low
I will take it (buying with linked gold )

[celest finch]

I've also seen those crazy prices for a team

[gray crescent]

but it o CD

[celest finch]

🫣 You're in luck, I'm already at 17% of the skills and I'm getting very little out of infantry.

[gray crescent]

I stole it

Lol

U dont wanna see the jacket

I don't know how much it worth

[celest finch]

mine is poor

🤣

[gray crescent]

i stole it too

[celest finch]

you bought it

[gray crescent]

Yep, with very cheap price

[celest finch]

It is difficult to get equipment of that level cheaply

Even the worst team released costs 1-3 thousand LoL gold.

[vocal current]

How much was it 🧐

[gray crescent]

secret

[vocal current]

You can whisper

[celest finch]

🤣

[gray crescent]

its better picture, WTS

[pastel sphinx]

[brisk ginkgo]

for infantry what are the stats we look after? always infantry dmg and dmg reduction? or is attack also a good one?

[pallid shadow]

Damage and damage reduction are the primary ones. attack and defense are okay if they're also there

[quick kernel]

do these equipments count when joining a rally? for example if i join a rally with ranged squad, will my ranged equipment be in effect or no?

[pallid shadow]

No, they shouldn't.

[silk blaze]

Are there 3 troopspecific attributes or no? I've never seen anything

[slate copper]

it would be super rare, and high demand , would be gone so fast

[chrome panther]

If you buying and spending gold, squad dmg and sqd dmg reduction.
If you not buying, take anything you can get.

300 gold for 2.3% dmg. So cheap.

[stiff veldt]

DMG red for 200 gold

[median sinew]

What are the most requested attributes in auction house?

[pallid shadow]

damage and damage reduction

[median sinew]

Ok. Attack and defence are also requested?

[pallid shadow]

People still those but they don't pay as much

[chrome panther]

High golden or red are still wanted. Lower ones, not so much.

[median sinew]

Got it, thank you.
I need to clean up my purple / gold items, and needed some reference

[chrome panther]

For example 4% attack you can barely take 500 gold,if lucky.

[median sinew]

Ok, then I will keep those

[chrome panther]

Next week, it will probable be 200 gold for middle gold att/def.

[pallid shadow]

Everything should be 200 gold.

[chrome panther]

Imagine if people sell everything for 200. IGG would close refinery fast.

[pallid shadow]

Maybe but we won't know until we try!

[low nimbus]

I've been posting my stuff for 200gold ea lol

[rough rampart]

Does anyone know maximum job level?

[gray crescent]

55 i believe

[rough rampart]

Thanks Ben!!!

[normal vine]

this worth anything?

[errant dust]

200-300 maybe

been seeing lots of 2 stat ones already

[onyx basalt]

2 stats without dmg/dmg red were never good, severely overvalued in discussions here

especially blue stats

[gritty jolt]

Thoughts on price? Basic attributes are meh but that 6% infa def could be good for smelting…

[normal vine]

u mega whale buy it for 2k

[errant dust]

1-2k if lucky

[errant dust]

am poor D:

[gritty jolt]

what if i'm unlucky? 😅 😂

[errant dust]

500-1k

[stuck gust]

Sold it for 2000

Maybe a dump question but is troop Dmg or troop Attack better?!

[pallid shadow]

dmg

[worn fulcrum]

estoy vendiendo un arma que tiene 5.2% defensa de infanteria, lo entoy vendiendo a 300 de oro

mas tarde subire la foto

[stuck gust]

Can u explain whats the difference?

[pallid shadow]

Attack is just part of the equation which produces the end result damage, whereas damage modifies the whole result of that equation.

[median sinew]

Thank you man. I was wondering about that as well

[pallid shadow]

I'm sure somebody else could explain it better. My math knowledge isn't really good enough to explain things.

[spare fulcrum]

I just chatgpt if im not sure of anything

[pallid shadow]

chatgpt is worse at math than I am. I at least admit when I don't understand something rather than lie about it.

[median sinew]

It's enough for me, really. My brain does not work at such high level

[spice brook]

Is it cheep ,

[gray crescent]

Same 6% ATK and DMG
Assume 200% inf ATK and 100% squad ATK = 300%

• 6% ATK
  => DMG deal = BasicDMG×ATK = 200×306%ATK = 612
• 6% DMG (300% ATK)
  => last DMG deal = DMG deal + DMG deal × DMG = 200×300% +200×300%×6% = 636

[zinc patio]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[stuck gust]

So the best weapon for dmg is troop easy Attack dmg in base Stats and than again troop dmg?

[radiant garnet]

How much can I get?

[gray crescent]

Basically my stat is based on seeing if the opponent's DEF is = 0

When fighting you usually see the avg damage is around 1k on normal attack and 6~9k on skill, the whale's attack stat is usually around 500%

[spice brook]

Someone bought it , thanks

[pallid shadow]

230. Wow, I've just been dismantling stuff like that.

[gray crescent]

10% DMG will increase it to 1k1 and 6k6~9k9, but 10% ATK only increase = basic×... (Further reduced by def and block)

[noble saddle]

WTS

[normal vine]

How much it is ?

[limber imp]

How much can i ask for it?

[normal vine]

1k -700

[stable canopy]

idk but that's beautiful ...3k ? maybe more ?

6.5% attack ...

oh my bad

infantry x ranged it's for smelling

still 7% is sold 7k

[weary crest]

Theres a 6.5% rider attack chest waayy underpriced someone merch it

[stable canopy]

i guess it's much easier to get them cheap if you find them because still gold so it's mixed in smaller ones
when whales aim the 7%

[vocal current]

[narrow ravine]

I put mine 1800 gold 😵‍💫 I look the cheaper on market and do same price

[stable canopy]

a 7% ? ouch

[narrow ravine]

6.5% ATK ranger

[stable canopy]

ah in fact the problem is ... the buyer need to find it

too many sht

[pallid shadow]

People need to start listing stuff ending with a different number if they're trying to sell to specific people. Like 1004 instead of 1000

[stable canopy]

need to ask them to be online + refreesh non stop

we should be able to make offers

[tribal rose]

Less than 2500

[tribal rose]

2500-1000

[craggy goblet]

It doesn't list immediately though

[broken acorn]

yeah that's lucky lol. i have gold stat gear that won't even sell for 500.

[pallid shadow]

After seeing it I listed some random gold with purple rider attack for 200. Might as well, since the tickets expire.

[young isle]

How to use the raid team 2/2?

[pallid shadow]

I think that just indicates how many you can raid at the same time.

1 if you don't care and 2 if you give them money.

[young isle]

Ohh ok ok

[normal vine]

I sold it for 300😭

[pallid shadow]

My 200 gold wonderful gun hasn't sold and it's already been 8 minutes. This auction house is awful.

[normal vine]

Does it have red squad dmg ?

[quick storm]

The full game is now everything takes 10! Hour shifts to keep up

[pallid shadow]

10 minutes?

[polar spade]

need help with pricing

[neat spire]

it's unfortunate there's no history to be able to check things like this. filter by red hone and see what is currently for sale and price it somewhere in there. 5k-7500?

[craggy goblet]

thats the stuff that hasn't sold though

[neat spire]

right, which is why it'd be helpful to see what it actually has sold for. there's nothing for that specific red hone, so either that stuff sells extremely fast or there's no established market for it

maybe a chasey whale has a 3 stat piece with that on it and would pay anything. idk.

[jaunty olive]

I would sell this on the higher side like id ask for like 9k because your target here is a chasey main going for optimal stats

[median sinew]

Hey people. What is your proficiency level?
Just to understand where I am, atm.

[jaunty olive]

I sold an infantry squad dmg 4.2% for 5k and it sold literally the second it went live haha

[jaunty olive]

I imagine everyone must be close to the same bro? We are all getting roughly the same amount of materials with no way to p2w beyond the initial 2 packs for 5 bucks, I am 19

The packs pay for themselves for it would be silly not to get them. Ive spent 1500 gold on the packs and gotten over 10k gold from the auction house so far

[stuck gust]

What u think?

This

[jaunty olive]

As a smelting material you can maybe get 1000 for it

[stuck gust]

How does it have this much might lol

Is this squad dmg red so good?

[jaunty olive]

Squad dmg reduction is adding the might

[stuck gust]

Crazy

[jaunty olive]

Upon checking the rider market this is going for less than the ranged market - 800 it will sell

[neat spire]

squad dmg/dmg reduction make any item have high might. these are the pieces people will buy to slowly increase the number on the piece they will wear, like Chrisp said. think of it as basically a honing chip

[stuck gust]

800-1000 ok i maybe will do 900 xd

[jaunty olive]

Yep when somebody finds a piece with rider squad dmg reduction + other rider stat that they want, say its like 1.5%, they willbuy yours to get a cheaper upgrade on the way to their ideal stat, becsuse if they went and bought like a 3.5% it could screw them and give them 2%, they use yours and get 2% then they buy the more expensive stuff later

[stuck gust]

Mm the cheapest golden rider squad dmg reduction is Liste for 1650

Ah nvm

Its purple lol hahah sorry!

[stuck gust]

Thanks 🙂

I think its more like 500 maybe

There Are much on the market

[jaunty olive]

This is how I set up so far. I just went for all squad dmg / squad dmg reduction + attack or def, later if 3 stats become more common ill upgrade haha

[stuck gust]

Strong! I wanna Build a good Rider but I dont know what I should get First, I dont get Rider weapons 🙁

[jaunty olive]

Just be patient its all going to get cheaper

Right now all the bigger spenders are competing for stuff and the supply is increasing

Eventually all the stuff is going to drop dramatically in price, just sell for now

[stuck gust]

What u think about this

[jaunty olive]

I just got this because I am a main rally lead in my alliance and dont want to lose in the short term

[stuck gust]

Jes I think thats true

I understand

[stuck gust]

I will PM u 🙂

[jaunty olive]

Ok

[tribal rose]

5k

[spring yew]

Still up for grabs

[coarse oar]

So i just used 2000 gold bars to craft shiet and got 0 gold

[spring yew]

condolences

[stuck gust]

What u think?

[spring yew]

Whoah

[lavish pond]

I listed a weapon with similar attributes but for riders for 550 just now.

But with a squad load hone in the middle.

[peak lintel]

The squad loads atleast more useful than the gathering speed, if im ever raiding anyone while zeroing I get loot 🤴

[craggy goblet]

I have a gather speed+gather bonus on my car

[spring yew]

Is this good? Could i list it for 199 gold?

[craggy goblet]

Load doesn't seem too useful for zeroing.
You can just bring in a maxine with full cars when its dead

[pallid shadow]

What if you need to remove a node to relocate a base and you have to do it in 1 hour exactly but the node has 1 hour and 1 minute of time left? You'll be missing that gathering speed sorely then!

[craggy goblet]

Does anyone buy purples?
Idk anyone that has

[craggy goblet]

[spring yew]

Well if the purple has better stats than their gold then they might i guess

[craggy goblet]

Doubt it

[spring yew]

Sigh

[peak lintel]

💀 well i mean its a pvp set basic attributes and all you'd probably run on a rider squad not engines

I meant more if you're burning a base with actual marches and not looting with engines

More rsss

[lavish pond]

Gathering bonus is very situational actually, ive seen people gathering in AR with Infa or Riders. At least in fearless.

[craggy goblet]

Ar I gather warehouse with combat squad then surround with rest of my troops

[peak lintel]

🤣

[craggy goblet]

Isn't the speed minimal?
I think my farmers have a few hundred percent

[pallid shadow]

Uh oh, you were late to move your shelter and save the tower. Now the entire alliance burned because they got disconnected. Should have picked gathering speed.

[peak lintel]

Bro I absolutely hate squats someone put me out of my misery

[peak lintel]

💀

[pallid shadow]

Just don't do them

[peak lintel]

No I have a routine that switches each day and I follow it by the book

I just need to become a paraplegic

[craggy goblet]

He wants a big booty for safeme

[peak lintel]

That too

Im flat as a piece of paper

[stuck gust]

What is it worth u think?

[stuck gust]

Already sold xd

[craggy goblet]

500-1000?

[stuck gust]

Yeah thats maybe a good Price

[silk blaze]

Refinery is trash. Skewed the game in the wrong direction

[stable canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-bridge-hoverboard-woah-no-hands-gif-16859719

The direction

[stable canopy]

Could be worse... like.... zombie xp

[craggy goblet]

How so?
Doesn't seem as bad as vehicles

[tribal rose]

Is this good, need help with pricing?

[vocal current]

Lvl 15

[vocal current]

It's getting harder and harder I noticed

[vocal current]

You got only 3 ?

[amber fox]

🤓

[pallid shadow]

At least vehicles didn't distract players from pressuring for changes the game needs by giving them a new donation button where they set the prices.

[low nimbus]

Just pretend you squatting on some good D

[pallid shadow]

Squatting with dumbbells might be a little too much for him.

[tawny mica]

So how rare so far are getting 2 troop specific attributes and a squad atk/def? I got a double infa which is great but not sure if worth leveling up.

[charred aurora]

its worth useing for now until you either forge one, or buy one

but i dont know about upgradeing much into it

[tawny mica]

Seems like it would cost quite a bit since the % are in the blue range rn. Take a lot of equipment. Im a goldfish so forging my own is what im trying to do 😅

[normal vine]

This kind of equipment also get sold ?

[gray crescent]

Everything is hard to sell now, should be 2 line useable, or least 1 golden buff

[lavish pond]

From my experience so far having listed 6 pieces and sold 2, those that have usefull purple hones sell for 200-300g and gold ones for 400-800g, both for smelting. Red ones for well over 1k.

Also you cant buy armaments with linked gold, whitch limits the pool of buyers. I guess IGG did so to prevent people from snipping undervalued pieces and then reselling them at a profit.

[pallid shadow]

Eh, they did it so they make money.

[lavish pond]

And thus preventing f2p or ultra low spenders like me to earn more gold

[pallid shadow]

Pretty much.

They told us it is "not heavily monetized" but it's probably the most monetized aspect of the game now.

[tribal rose]

Need to pull some piece with multiple decent attributes if you want to get some gold

Cant hope to get free gold with just crappy attributes, even if you put it at lowest price 200 gold it still will have hard time being sold out

[craggy goblet]

A single purple and gold will sell if its dmg or dmg red.
Probably sell of its counter dmg too

They still need a lot of smelting items

[lavish pond]

Currently i have such pieces with 2 relevant attributes for all of my troop types, It is possible to have equipment with all 3 attributes for the same type of troops.

(Hint: i bought the refining expert package for 499g from previous sales)

[quick fractal]

Single decent stat ones also sell for 1K+ if dmg/dmg red

Depends on if your deal is more appealing than others for a buyer

[celest finch]

For sale 326 Gold happy night 🤗

[peak lintel]

Not bad also modified some1 will probably cop it

[peak lintel]

Modified = upgraded*

[stiff veldt]

Auction gold goes as link gold ?

[peak lintel]

if something is bought its linked yes

[stiff veldt]

Possible price ?

Anyone tried to buy equipment from their farm for low prices? 😁

[peak lintel]

No, simply because yhe listing period is unreliable and I'd probably get my weapon sniped by waiting for 30+ minutes and getting distracted

Atp I rather just but auto gathers using the gold I get

[stiff veldt]

Thanks for the input, can u please suggest me a number for the upper equipment approx...

[peak lintel]

I think this person named it pretty well, depends on buyer ofc but these stats get less rare longer the system is out so selling it 500-800 may be better I've even had trouble selling 5% stats for around 550 gold so really depends

[lavish pond]

Currently almost 100 vests for sale with that particular hone in yellow, starting from 300g. So i would say maybe at 400. Just use the filters and make your choice.

[stiff veldt]

[lavish pond]

Yes it depends of demand. The volume of transactions is trading downwards last few days.

[quick fractal]

I sold a gun with 2.7% Dmg for 999,But it depends on demand and how many deals are up atm, Guns are selling more now

[modern mica]

Price ?

[main swallow]

Dismantle.

[lavish pond]

Keep it to smelt it.

or 200g if it sells

[main swallow]

It won't. Also, what stat are they going to smelt?

[lavish pond]

Rider squad attack.

[main swallow]

If you really need to, sure.

[young isle]

from blue to purple

[zinc wolf]

How much should this be kept

[modern mica]

Price ?

[fair cipher]

200 gold, I wouldn't sell this. It got good buffs so better use smelting to upgrade the special attributes to golden

[fair cipher]

200-400 gold

[young isle]

This guy looks so stressed out, with hypertension.

[flint topaz]

is there so much bullying going on upstairs ? 🤣 you can not even talk with "stronger" people because it's an offense to the king

[sand lynx]

Selling 5.7% inf def grenade, dm me if your interesting

[tribal rose]

Would that Grenade be enough to destroy IGG Headquarters?

[chrome panther]

[quick fractal]

That's cheap, nice for an upgrade if you got a double/triple stat one

[median sinew]

Hello people, please help. I need your opinions.
Yesterday I made a big crafting batch, and this guy came out

As Infantry main, it's quite interesting for me. In your opinion is it worth to work on it, and improve the attribute stats?

Or should I sell it/trash it, waiting for something better?

As comparison, currently I use this one

[errant dust]

sell for 200 xd

depends if u want the stats or the gold cause it can easily go 10-20k or higher

[median sinew]

With this piece, I am more interested in stats.
I was already thinking to invest future pieces into this. But: is it a good idea?

[errant dust]

sure, why not. I think it works well for infantry since they have high counter dmg and the basic atk dmg reduc is always good

[fair cipher]

Very good equipment. Invest in it and keep it. Better than 4.9% attack one and I would use attack one to smelt.

[chrome panther]

To tell you honestly, i would rather had dmg+1 good stat, then that tripple one. But thats just me.

I would sell that high, then chase sqd dmg+att/def for cheaper.

[fair cipher]

Are you able to smelt that piece with 4.9% attack one? I think it can improve it further.

[median sinew]

Unfortunately the one I am using have +attack, not +damage. Otherwise I would still keep it =/

[median sinew]

I didn't check but most likely yes.

[chrome panther]

I dont know. I like dmg or dmg reduction better. Att/def is good, but nothing crazy.
You can get 6% att/def bonus from buff in AR. Cant get any dmg buff.

If you can get something crazy like 20k, i would sell it without question. 😆

Use that 20k, invest in workshop, you will get more benefit then this tripple stat.

[fair cipher]

If that piece become 7% attack and 7% defence then it could sell for 10k+

All red on all three stats will be juicy

Rare piece where every stat is useful for Infantry

[median sinew]

That's a dream for me 😅
Always been bad with selling stuff

[chrome panther]

That gonna happen in 2028.

[chrome panther]

Put some crazy price, and wait. If it sell, good. If it not, atleast you tried.
Another thing, before selling, try to boost up that att and def to gold. It will up the price nicely.

[median sinew]

Ok, that's a plan. Long term, but I can do it.

[chrome panther]

Dont wait to long. Market will dip as time goes by. More and more people will get 3 stats.
Use it while its still fresh.

[median sinew]

Thank you both for the feedback 🙂

[thorn folio]

Yeah, those 3 (good) stat pieces are still like unicorns. Either sell em fast for massive cash, or curate them into spectacular pieces for your own use.

[median sinew]

@chrome panther @fair cipher Just for your info: I tried to improve to gold and failed. Then I improved the base stats and list it.
Got 5k
I should have sold it for 10k 🥲

[thorn folio]

Ah rip then

[median sinew]

Yeah, should have aimed higher.

Still, now I have some cash to invest in future upgrades

[thorn folio]

I am curious as to what the max level refining job is

[median sinew]

I think I saw 20 is the max

[thorn folio]

I am at 20 at the moment, and it says it goes higher. Has more xp to go

I think maybe 25... at 25 I figure for gold alloys, there will be 0% chance of blue equipment. And something like 23-25% of gold equipment from smithing

[chrome panther]

Why just 5k? I told you go for 20k 😣

[median sinew]

I didn't have the golden atk

[chrome panther]

No matter, you had 3 good stats, that was your leverage.
You were right, you are bad with selling. 😆

[thorn folio]

The gold attack doesn't matter to whales, they see the equipment has all usable traits. They will do that themselves, they just want the easily upgradable best piece for that slot locked-in

[chrome panther]

You sold peace in less then 30 min. That was fast.

[median sinew]

Indeed. Too fast. The other person made the deal

[median sinew]

I see. So I should had sold it as it was 😑

[fair cipher]

Idk I think 5k is very good

The person who bought will need to invest in it atleast 10k to get good stats on all three specials

[thorn folio]

Yeah. And I find smithing the stats very... incremental. Even with a very large gap between the target max value and the actual value, it tends to massively lowball you.

So they need to waste a couple pieces smithing higher before breaking out the upper end pieces to sacrifice.

[fair cipher]

Also you need red special one to get max stats and that is already very costly

[chrome panther]

He got 5k for free, so it is very good indeed.
But my guess, it could been sold for 15k atleast.
I would start with 20k, leave it today like that. If not sold, delisted and try again with 15k.

A lot of peoole with gold in this game. All it takes is one who dont care the price. 😆

[thorn folio]

Currently my best piece. Haven't been lucky enough to spawn a 3 stat...

[desert tangle]

무기를 모아 전투력을 높이세요^^!

[median sinew]

Well yes, at least I got some money to invest. Which is good 🙂

[median sinew]

That's very good.

[thorn folio]

And here is my second best.

Although, i've been selling most of my best pieces. Almost 10k gold worth of sales...

Well this was what I was looking for

Didn't realize that the job proficiency level could go so high!

Level 50.... that's like a guaranteed gold item with gold alloys to use. Wow.

[hexed stirrup]

Hi guys, I am confused regarding switching jobs. Game description is not eloquent. I have lvl 20 weapon smith job and I want to switch to helm or device. I understand that it will be transferred, but all of it lvl 20? Or do I lose from the progress and if yes how much lost from lvl 20?

[median sinew]

My understanding is that you will not lose your proficiency in Firearms, and will have to grind your proficiency in Masks or Devices

However, I am not up to date with most of this stuff, so wait for other people feedback

[hexed stirrup]

I think it's transfering from firearms into Masks but don't know how

[thorn folio]

It says you lose some (probably most) of your progress when changing class jobs

Meaning you do not keep your proficiency level in firearms, but you do gain a bkt in masks or whatnot. So if you're level 20 now, you might be level 12 to 15 in masks after the transfer

[young isle]

2 option for ranger 800 gold only

[prisma coyote]

Cc

[pastel sphinx]

15% DMG/DMG reduction is inheritly equal to +- 58 DEF/ATK in terms of stats.

[pastel sphinx]

this is a rough speculation from all the reports i've gathered.

[pastel sphinx]

though, this is assuming you're already a good T6, the effectiveness of DMG and DMG reduction increases when you have more ATK/DEF

[pastel sphinx]

you need both on the same dish to make them work effectively, but overall i would say DMG/DMG reduction is way better, especially if you're looking for the long run

[naive flower]

Do ones like this? With the same attribute, command a price?

[spice brook]

Suggest me a price

[spice brook]

😅

Done

[agile shale]

Alliance name: IMAVEN 1839587777 Date: 10/2/2025 To Doomsday: Last Survivors Game Management, I am writing to report issues with my Doomsday Star Referee account. I am unable to claim gems earned from inviting players, despite meeting all requirements. My account ID is 1839587777. Furthermore, 20,000 gems I had reserved until the first of the month disappeared on that day. I have attached screenshots [if applicable] as proof of both the invited players and the missing gems. Please investigate these issues and restore the missing gems and allow me to claim my invitation rewards. Let me know if any further information is needed. Thank you

[young isle]

🦈

[spice brook]

Not here

[agile shale]

Where?

[spice brook]

Feed back or live chat in game

[flint topaz]

this is gold, I was trying to find an estimated ratio between DMG/DMG RED and ATTCK/DEF to understand at what point one is better than the other

[agile shale]

Where I can find the live chat?

[agile shale]

Owh! Thank you

[errant dust]

oh my D:

[pastel sphinx]

I'm glad, but honestly the easiest way to know which one is better is from the weapon's might. IGG is pretty clear when it comes to which one is better

As you can see a 7% Def = 260,000
While 3.9% DMG reduction is 508,000

That's already a clear statement

[flint topaz]

I think that value is related on how difficult is to get those, before armaments the squad dmg/red were only achievable on heroe devices and parts (daaamn expensive)

but on the other side it's important to know or have a starting ratio on attck/def vs dmg/dmg red as this question is asked a lot on my alliance, like what's more worth investing, and it all depends how much attack/def the player currently has

[young isle]

Might can sometimes be misleading if you base your calculations only on it

[pastel sphinx]

Yes this is true, that's why I said it's only effective when you're at a good level of T6, because I've tested it and it's not as effective for T5's

And there are many factors to include aswell. Like rangers benefitting most from DMG bonus etc

Well a good enough evidence is that most whales do prefer Squad DMG/DMG reduction

This is from UOD venom I believe

I do not see any sign of ATK/DEF as their majority pick

Most of them use DMG/DMG reduction

Even if the DMG itself is not red

[onyx basalt]

3% dmg better than red atk/def

[pallid shadow]

Are people paying for damage reduction even if it's only 1.2% and the only worthwhile stat on the item?

[chrome panther]

That is insane numbers. I knew it was high, but not that much.

[pastel sphinx]

again, it depends on your stats, since its a final multiplier

[chrome panther]

I pay 200-300 for everything over 2%. Under i dont go.

[flint topaz]

the attribute alone it's being overprizes even for high values. But sellers are putting it cheap on low roll dmg red with another useful attribute in the weapon, this is where the gold is at

[chrome panther]

Yeah, understood.

[pallid shadow]

Gosh, "no" is easier to type you guys

[pastel sphinx]

yeah, i was testing it with 385,6 atk, 308 def. and this is not including squad lethality - and squad block, skill dmg, etc. Honestly it would be easier if IGG just gives us the formula

[scenic heart]

Going up as got something better

[coarse oar]

Now this’s tempting

Either i use it myself or sell it for quick gold

Not a fan of counter damage reduction tho

[slate copper]

I doubt anyone in their office know anything about it

[noble saddle]

WTS

[young isle]

Don’t expect too much to become overpowered in this new refinery. No matter how many times you calculate, you still be eaten by whales .

Don’t be greedy by selling items the way IGG does. Offer them at a fairer price so that small players and free-to-play players also have a chance to compete against big spenders

[pallid shadow]

Or sell everything for 1,000,000 gold so that only one person who accidentally clicked gets anything.

[flint topaz]

I totally agree on this, many players complaining about IGG greediness and then they are the first trying to sell for an astronomic prize 🤣

[pallid shadow]

They just outsourced the greed to others' choices. They still profit off of it, they just don't have to set the prices.

[boreal magnet]

For sale
I ask 1500 gold for this

[zinc wolf]

Dont think rates are this high anymore. 2 stat equipments are available below 500 golds. Sometimes at 200 also

[willow cypress]

They are not even getting sold any more

[zinc wolf]

Exactly. 2 stats are in abundance now. 3 stats are rare or maybe 2 stats of damage and damage reduction

[willow cypress]

3 items with 2 stats that I put for 500 gold has expired from auction store . So I used 2 of them smelting

[boreal magnet]

For sale

[silk blaze]

PPS for 299 not getting bought

[weary crest]

You merching all the crap i sold you for 200ea?

[boreal magnet]

I have never purchased from anyone

[weary crest]

Those are 200 all day

Dont give igg free 10 golds

[high karma]

I don't see the point in purchasing the purple ore anymore...The drop rate is just awful now

[weary crest]

Think about it this way.. would a low spender rather spend 300 gold on mega armament sale or 500 on customization contest, or buy a low rarity item they will craft themselves in a few weeks/months for nothing

[soft barn]

That low level doesnt get you a lot of workshop stuff

[weary crest]

The only things that will be on the auction soon are rare pieces. Gold combat stats for smelting and triple stats. Everything else is just donating 10 gold to igg when you list it. Soon they wont even buy double combat stats for 200.

[willow cypress]

did they remove legendary augment material?

[gray crescent]

its will appear some where

maybe top event

[willow cypress]

it was like this before update but now they removed legendary one. does that mean they are not gonna add legendary ones?

[chrome panther]

Or there will be some special event where you buy that.

[craggy goblet]

What?

Oh for crafting that one disappeared after a couple days

[chrome panther]

Maybe they add them in district soon, as chest reward.

[gray crescent]

oh i see

maybe too much crafted golden items

they think its enough so removed the leg buff

[pallid shadow]

This screenshot is for hero armament honing.

[willow cypress]

but they were for attributes bro

[willow cypress]

I shared this as example dude

[pallid shadow]

Oh. Okay. I was confused because it was a completely different thing.

I know what you mean though from the first screenshot. There were two different forging tube things to use when it was first released. I hadn't noticed it vanished.

[charred aurora]

yeah they ahve been patching the game liek crazy recently in repsons to the bugs LOL

its been crazy how many times my PC is getting updates.

[willow cypress]

Does survivors attributes works in battle? I have equipped one skill damage buff but it's not showing in survivor attributes section

[charred aurora]

what do you mean its not showing up

[craggy goblet]

Equipped?
Equipped is to hero only

[willow cypress]

So only basic attributes are displayed in survivor attribute section

[craggy goblet]

Yes. Those are permanent buffs to everything

[willow cypress]

thank you. I got it now

[charred aurora]

Thanks Death, I got distracted LOL

[slate copper]

free to play wont be able to buy anything from the auction house

so i sold a few items and made some golds , but its getting harder and harder to craft a decent item

[tribal rose]

Why do you have Anna a Ranged commander on Adut

[slate copper]

i started to think that buying the chest for purple ores every week wont be a good investment

[willow cypress]

I think she works for both types. And she is better than all my other just infantry ones. they all have 0.8% squad def, 0.7% squad attack

[tribal rose]

Your only getting skill dmg

[willow cypress]

Yeah but others have squad attack and def as basic attributes. which works even if they are not equipped and their special attributes are less percent atk and def buffs

[sand lynx]

Guys, lv 20 is the maximum? (Its not mine)

[willow cypress]

only one has better one. squad counter damage +1.6%

[slate copper]

yes

[gritty salmon]

In total I craft 6 times and got 6 of same type, why I dont get A helmet or something else

[charred aurora]

cause youre only crafting guns. you have to change your job, or just change your focus at the top right when crafteing

[gritty salmon]

Ohhhhhh

Now I understand, thanks you

[pastel sphinx]

Selling 499 | 399

[glossy moat]

why can't I change guns or equip guns to my ranged in refinery?

[weary crest]

Because your troops arent in the shelter

[craggy goblet]

Does it say deployed when you equip?
Thats their poorly written message telling you to recall troops

[boreal magnet]

You must recall your troops back if you want to change anything or equip

Just like hero armament, they have to be in your shelter to make changes

[high karma]

I'm not buying anymore. Can't craft anything except purple and blue trash now

[median sinew]

Can you explain why?

[slate copper]

because i the price keep going down every week and the higher my smithing level, the harder it is to get something decent to sell

i have higher % crafting legendary than blue now, but my legendary ores keep giving me blue equipments more than gold

i know that IGG's RNG formula is rigged but this is just bad

[lavish pond]

Does the smith level reset if you change the expertise? For example from firearm master to chemist?

[tribal rose]

It doesn't reset but you don't have effect of it

[lavish pond]

ok

[median sinew]

I think the issue is your proficiency level. It's driving me insane too

But if you focus on a single item, it get better

[craggy goblet]

No, the levels the same.
If you're level 20 on gun and swap to armor you're level 20 armor forging

[lavish pond]

ok thanks

[median sinew]

In the latest production batches, I got only 1 blue over 10 items crafted

[craggy goblet]

Anyone know what happens when odds of blue goes below 0?

With yellow forges it'll be below before level 50

[pallid shadow]

It probably bugs out and goes up to 256% odds.

[willow cypress]

I tried it in my farm acc it became level 16 from level 18

[thorn folio]

That sounds right. It tells you that you lose some proficiency when you switch job classes. The drop you stated was much less than I anticipated. It's actually generous.

[craggy goblet]

Oh it does say 3 level drop for me

[tribal rose]

If your lvl 50 and you swap job you start with 47?

Somebody please get lvl 50 fast and test for me

[pallid shadow]

I thinkit might be a percentage

[boreal magnet]

So you saying max level is 50?

[peak lintel]

They said that yeah

[pallid shadow]

I'm level 51

[willow cypress]

your level might be higher than mine. Higher the level More the level drop after switching job. At level 50 it may be 5 level drop

[craggy goblet]

Oh maybe its around 10% then
I don't think i lost a level when I swapped at low level

[willow cypress]

But How did you reach 20+ that quick dude?

[craggy goblet]

Be lucky early on.
Exp is based on what you craft.
I think 200 for yellows 50 for purples.
The lower your odds on blue items the more exp you're getting per craft

[tribal rose]

I reached lvl 7 job level IRL this month
I have enough salery to have leftover for doomsday vehicle pack now

[craggy goblet]

I'm level 19, so i guess thats more than 10%
Maybe 15%

[boreal magnet]

I don't believe you
How could you possibly reach on level 50 that fast?
I'm also crafting and buying all things but still its 21 level

[tribal rose]

Who says you need something maxed to know if that level is maxed

[craggy goblet]

Who's claiming to be level 50?

[willow cypress]

DillBagner

[craggy goblet]

#1421091731406979102 message
He just quoted the faq

[tribal rose]

Who?
Never heard of them

[craggy goblet]

though I like the way you spelt his name

[willow cypress]

My bad, I'm sorry

[willow cypress]

.

[tribal rose]

Ban that mod spreading misinformation
Admin abuse

[lavish pond]

Probably bought the two packs available, refining expert and refining privilage. Its a good deal i think, i bought mine with donated gold from my alliance and income from previous sales.

[pallid shadow]

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm just level 51, not level 51 for smithing

in a more general sense

[craggy goblet]

I'm level 52 at lagging

[tribal rose]

I'm lvl 0 at uninstalling this game

[pallid shadow]

Kindly follow these steps please, to try to resolve your concern:
• Restart Phone
• Switch between different connections (Wi-Fi or 3G/4G) to test the connectivity with the game
• Minimize the number of running background applications while playing our game
• Minimize the number of devices connected to the Wi-Fi while playing our game
• Update the game to the latest version
If all those troubleshooting steps fail, please follow these steps as a last resort:
• Remove the game from the device
• Restart the Device
• Download and install the latest version from the app store

[craggy goblet]

where's the test then screenshot latency test

[tribal rose]

More like share us your ip address test

[pallid shadow]

Oh man, I should start including a screenshot of that every time I submit a ticket asking them if they've fixed the servers yet

[tribal rose]

And location

[pallid shadow]

Everybody knows everybody's IP already

[tribal rose]

Why are you stalking me?

[pallid shadow]

No but if you visit my website I would know your IP. It's just standard internet stuff--it has to know.

[violet tulip]

You mean you are at job level 51 ?
Okay How can we reach this quickly?

[pallid shadow]

No, that's something I am not level 51 at.

[tribal rose]

Buy something with 1m gold to get to lvl 50

[pallid shadow]

I don't even know what level I am. I just click on refine, speed up any gold stuff so it doesn't get looted when I'm offline, then craft stuff starting with green stuff moving to yellow stuff, then dismantle it all.

[inner kiln]

reduction and increased damage : riders. I have no idea how much to sell it for, but the power is almost 400,000. And I only have two attempts.

[craggy goblet]

No idea.
Try 5k?

[jovial raft]

Price ?

[tribal rose]

Below 2k

[modern mica]

How are you level 51

Max is 50

I asked support

[pallid shadow]

#🪙┊refinery-n-auction message

[tribal rose]

This game has eat up everones sense of humor, people think everything must be taken seriously and that nothing is a joke

The IGG posts frequently asked questions stating that max is lvl 50 of the jobs
Someone comes and jokes about how they're lvl 51 after the frequently asked questions was posted
People see and genuinely believe they are lvl 51

[slate copper]

Mine was below 1K and it didnt sell

[nimble plume]

Maybe 20k really

Those are rare right now

[slate copper]

Its around 18 or 19 but i dont think ive get legendaries more often than when i just started... if there is any difference, jts very tiny

[nimble plume]

One with a bad base stats like zombie stuff went for 7k almost instantly

[tribal rose]

Try 250 gold then
If even that does sell then give up

[slate copper]

It was sold under 500

[craggy goblet]

thats a lot

[nimble plume]

It’s almost a perfect base item

You could get both damage and damage reduction to 4%

Thats 8% on a single piece

Not that hard and great for whales

And not even maxed, maxed it’s 11% on a single piece but I’m being realistic

[slate copper]

How many coupons does it take to sell at auction house ?

I used it twice i think and somehow u dont have any coupons left

[pallid shadow]

Pretty sure it's one per listing and they are removed weekly

[slate copper]

We get 3 each week if i remember correctly

[pallid shadow]

Yes

[slate copper]

I have no more coupons somehow so i thought maybe the higher price needs more coupons

[inner kiln]

I haven't sold it yet, I only have two tries, so I don't want to set a price that no one can afford

[inland turret]

W westcol

[pallid shadow]

I don't think so but I haven't tried or anything to see

[pallid shadow]

People don't seem to defend raids at all. It seems every time mine goes through.

[wicked zephyr]

Only lvl 51? I’m at lvl 78!

[modern mica]

Price

[lavish pond]

Purple attributes are 200g at most.

[west wagon]

I’ve been having bad luck selling lately so thought I’d ask how much to list this for

My guess from catching up on this channel would be like 500?

Sold this for 200 before I figured out how this worked 🫠

[tribal rose]

The ones called squad dmg and squad dmg red are really good buffs
Because of that the whales want those the most
You could have sell this gor way more than 200
I argue that might be sold for 5k

[pastel sphinx]

Selling this 1,199

[pastel sphinx]

Around 2000 - 3000, you see them more often now

Seems like the whales already got what they wanted

3.7 - 4% is around 4000 - 5000

[heady widget]

Is this worth anything or nope?

[slate copper]

use filter function , it can help you to check price

but blue usually dont sell for much

[crude grotto]

is there any forge all button somewhere that I missed?

[crude grotto]

Not much people want def @lofty sable

[crude grotto]

trash

[lofty sable]

Ohh that’s why my armaments are not being sold

[lofty sable]

That’s why I set minimum rate

[slate copper]

this auction clearly doesnt work

only specific attributes are worth selling and getting it already super hard with their rigged RNG

only whales and high spenders could afford buying items from auction house

[crude grotto]

I am low spender, and I buy it all the time. It is the cheapest investment that you can do to your account

[errant dust]

I just like crafting xd

[brisk ginkgo]

so we basically search in ideal conditions an item with 2 stats we want and 1 of them to be dmg red or dmg right?

and also how much is worth paying in auction house for an item with the above stats at blue lvl??

[median sinew]

No, there is no such thing

[median sinew]

I tend to agree, in the current state of it.

[weary crest]

999 gold

[flint topaz]

499 at most

[weary crest]

1299 for you

Special price

[noble saddle]

Perf Ranged to sell

[flint topaz]

I give you 1499 take it or leave it

[flint topaz]

The gold there is in the squad dmg and dmg red

[noble saddle]

People don't understand that it costs less to buy equipment with all the bonuses and assemble it than to buy it already finished.

[silk blaze]

It costs the least to buy nothing

[boreal magnet]

Anyone have ranged armament with all range buff? Should be legendary

[young isle]

offer

[onyx basalt]

free

[young isle]

300 i post in auction

go go go

[celest finch]

Good morning, for sale 350 gold

[zinc patio]

I can't find it

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[young isle]

sold 1 hour ago

[zinc patio]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-the-frog-sad-crying-gif-16026853

[onyx basalt]

hella cheap ofc it's insta sell 😂

[west wagon]

please advise 😭 I feel like I need to make like a guide for how much each property sells for

[west wagon]

Don’t tell me that 🤣

Could have had 5k 😭

[gray crescent]

1k5

[west wagon]

Thanks, I’ll start there!

[vocal current]

[errant dust]

hmmm

[silk blaze]

Is this good

[brisk ginkgo]

how we decide whether to go for dmg reduction or squad dmg??

[pallid shadow]

It depends if you want your squads to take less damage or do more damage, I suppose.

There are benefits to both.

[low nimbus]

Get both problem solved

[high karma]

I'm level 20 smithing on guns...Does the "RNG" get better if I switch to another equipment? All I get is purple and blue crap now with guns

I'm 100% not buying purple ores again. The percentages for getting anything gold went down waaay too much

[brisk ginkgo]

i am infantry player, i plan to have 2 items with squad dmg and 2 with dmg reduction. Is it a good plan or should focus on one of them. I guess since these are the best stats we should aim for them together with something else so there are 2 good stats on each item

[scenic heart]

I thought the % was supposed to go up

[high karma]

🤣 Well this is IGG we're talking about

[pallid shadow]

They might have just lowered the odds overall.

[high karma]

I used like 20+ golds yesterday and got all purple and blue crap. I'm sick of the refinery now

[onyx basalt]

all % are fake

[high karma]

That's why I'm wondering if switching jobs will help...Because reaching level 20 has proven to be a total waste of time

[onyx basalt]

day 1 was funny cuz I did a single roll outside job on 7ish accounts while getting nothing on job and all of them got legendary 😂

[craggy goblet]

The odds of purple go up 0.5% per level
Odds of blue goes down 0.7%
For using yellows materials.
So should be less blues

[flint topaz]

wait, now I am overcomplicating things, for a given job all odds depends on the job level right? do this odds change depending on how much alloy type you use? (i.e using gold alloy all the time for the same job will increase legendary proficiency, etc)

[pallid shadow]

lol, someone actually bought this.

[craggy goblet]

Generally, since its dependent on equip rarity the higher rarity you craft with the more exp since you're more likely to get a yellow

[high karma]

I'm not done complaining about the refinery 🤣 But my (F2P) farm got this...If I was going to sell it, how much?

[fair cipher]

It can be used to smelt lower level ones so not bad

[pallid shadow]

I guess. I just didn't expect anyone to pay money for a little bit of ranged rider atk

[fair cipher]

Better is to level up using smaller purple ones to decent level instead of using a gold stat directly

[pallid shadow]

Too bad they don't have any packs for 184 gold.

[fair cipher]

Endless offers has a 99 gold pack but I don't think it is of any value

[pallid shadow]

That's just what, 2 fragments of a legendary right?

[high karma]

The 400 players thing that comes around every week or so isn't bad for 99 gold. I usually get 1K diamonds and other stuff from it

[languid bay]

is this good

[soft barn]

The $1.99 pack is better value 🐳

[fair cipher]

Yeah, best to get that when sunken treasure event is there.. gives lots of vest frags

[fair cipher]

Best for dismantling as it is exquisite labelled😅

[languid bay]

tyty

[fair cipher]

Try selling for 200 gold and see if anyone buys.. I wouldn't rush to dismantle legendary ones unless the stats are total garbage. It has decent infantry attack so still usable

[lavish pond]

Buying the 499g pack you will craft multiple legendaries with purple hones they were selling a few days ago close to the minimum price of 200g. Now even pieces with yellow hones are trending towards there.

[flat slate]

Why had the market collapsed so badly

The 5$ pack has too many legendaries

It completely killed the market for trash rolls that I been living on

[pallid shadow]

People realized nothing was really worth much and the new factor can only last for so long.

[flat slate]

Now even basic gold rolls won't sell for 200

[pallid shadow]

I just sold a purple single atk stat for 200. It took almost the full 48 hours, but it did sell.

[flat slate]

It took less than a week for people to realize it

[pallid shadow]

Which is too long, in my opinion.

[flat slate]

Oh wow what was the %

[pallid shadow]

3.5

[flat slate]

Why would someone buy a purple

[pallid shadow]

The gun was gold, the stat was purple

[flat slate]

I see

[pallid shadow]

#🪙┊refinery-n-auction message This one

[craggy goblet]

Upgrade blue with purple attributes before gold?

[flat slate]

Upgrading doesn't work it becomes infinitely more expensive to buy to resell

For example I buy a gold for 400 gold to upgrade a 3.1% attack with a 5% gold

The smelt only moves it 3.4% from 3.1

You'll need to buy 2 or 3 of the gold attribute just to move the needle by then you have spent 1000 gold + making the item worth less than the price of buying upgrades for it

[craggy goblet]

For use not resell

[flat slate]

Yes to use that would work

[pallid shadow]

If you're buying to sell, you can get the same results by sending an envelope of cash directly to IGG.

[flat slate]

But to resell it's impossible to make money off buying upgrading and reselling now

Only can make money from own lucky rolls

[craggy goblet]

Buying to resell is just a bad idea though.
Unless someone's selling a dmg +dmg red for 200

[light wave]

Fck IGG

Biggest sh it ever

[stiff veldt]

Boycott 🤣🤣

[lavish pond]

What about the equipment basic attributes? The ones that level up with enchanchement? I believe HP and skill damage buffs are strongest.

[silk blaze]

Is it good? There's a fighters attribute in the yellow

[vocal current]

[thorn folio]

While all that is cool, I found this bad boy while surfing the auction house. Best piece i'd ever found there yet.

(Not mine, ofc, just found it. Literal god tier roll)

[craggy goblet]

Its good but only 1 dmg red.
Idk why its so expensive

Triple dmg/red would probably sell at 100k

[stiff birch]

any infantry mains interested?:)

[thorn folio]

Yeah, true. But you know how some people are. That's 3 good rolls for ranged squads and gold to boot

[thorn folio]

You can get 200 for it, maybe.

[craggy goblet]

got any double or triple inf dmg red?

[silk blaze]

Why DMG reduction

[stable canopy]

their price ?

[craggy goblet]

For infantry garrison

[noble saddle]

i have three stats perf ranger with red biker

[stiff birch]

only tripple def and counter 🫡

[sudden vigil]

someone interested on this?

[silk blaze]

Field battle is better than garrison

[flint topaz]

Mmm tempting, how much do you sell it for?

Looool gtfo

Do market research first to control the greediness

[noble saddle]

bro it's perf for ranged

[stable canopy]

look the price and sell more than 3k i bet

[sudden vigil]

worth 3k gold?

[stable canopy]

at least because the red 7% worth 7k lol

verify in the shop it's variable but it's not cheap

[sudden vigil]

if someone wanna buy it lmk

i will sell it cheap haha

[chrome panther]

Bought for 200 gold.

Some cheap gems can be found. Just need to search often.

[lavish pond]

Great piece for a good price.

[boreal magnet]

That's mine? On farm?🤣

Probably mine . That's same stats but many others can get it too

[flint crag]

did anyone reach max lvl job ?

[tribal rose]

No, why do you think someone has max lvl already?

[pallid shadow]

I reached min level

I looked at the shop and it's wild the range people are trying to get for just def/atk

[errant dust]

still waiting for a 3 pvp stat worth 200g :((

[pallid shadow]

There's a 2 for 200

but they're different troop types so it's just 1

[lavish pond]

Pieces with attributes like def/attack with values over 4% are gradually hitting the bottom. 10s of them for sale now for the minimum price of 200g.

[pallid shadow]

Good

[lavish pond]

More valuable stats like squad dmg/dmg reduction still high though if yellow.

Personally I think in the long run i think it will be better even for a low spender to drop a few tens of bucks to gear up the main troop type than bothering with the refinery.

[mighty token]

Buenas nocher cuanto oro podria vales esta arma???

[normal vine]

How much it can be sold for ? 🫣

[spare fulcrum]

1

[normal vine]

1k ? Oh ok thnx

[stable canopy]

No 500 should be ok

[peak lintel]

Ain't nobody buying that for 500

Try for 200 and pray for misclick

[normal vine]

U buy for 10k

[peak lintel]

I like my money

[normal vine]

I like you

[peak lintel]

Get in line buster! The last time someone said that I landed on OF!

[stable canopy]

😅

[versed musk]

WARNING!!!!!! All players dismantling large amounts of squad equipment at the refinery, about a third disappears. WARNING!!!!!

I have been trying to get back about 20k enhancement metals I lost because of this problem but IGG won't do anything, they just keep saying thank you for your patience and understanding, sorry for the inconvenience, we are looking into it.... But do nothing, it's been a week so far.

So here is the video evidence I provided after they denied it was happening, then they said they would do something, but haven't.

At 2:40 you see the amount I am dismantling is 8235 metals, but then it becomes 4953 metals, which means I lost 3282 metals in one click, and no the percentage you lose is already calculated when they quote how much you get back, because it always matches the amount you get back on normal dismantling of one item etc with enhancements already. Its only on large batches of dismantling that huge amounts mysteriously disappear.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19s-khKPRbCnBLlZVBGFwXXpa2_Ezsym7/view

Be careful is all I have to say, because IGG keep giving glib generic emails promising to do something but then don't.

[young isle]

what a news !

[slate copper]

Wow crazy i never paid attention to it so i might lost a few too

[lavish pond]

IGG relies on guys like Safeme to keep the game running. Plus some players got richer ingame by 137.5k g.

[spare fulcrum]

137k is crazy ill probably js make my own game atp 🤣

[young isle]

I don’t really see much difference between 2 options and 3 options in troops refinery, unlike in heroes armaments where you can make the rare option the final one. buying that 3 option troops armor with that pricing is puking insane!

ranger 2 attk

[rapid talon]

1

[stiff veldt]

And they also mentioned that the island is barren for only poor

[silk blaze]

It looks like people don't buy easily anymore

[muted sentinel]

What feature did that equipment have

[hardy moon]

Hey guys

How are you doing today guys

How do I smelt here

How

[stable canopy]

Well you need a gold weapon with "squad def" > 2.7 it will disappear and you will take some 0.x each time

[hardy moon]

What do you mean

[silk blaze]

That dude has probably spent 1 million

[stable canopy]

Look that

[stable canopy]

👆

He buys pieces to do it, look

[zinc patio]

https://tenor.com/view/kilnerry-daniel-keith-kathy-searle-wathcing-you-eyes-gif-22925614

[hardy moon]

Okay

[hardy moon]

You mean that is your account

[stable canopy]

what ? 😭 I share with you the video of a whale doing the right things.. watch
No that's not me

[hardy moon]

.😆

[stuck gust]

Can someone say me, what is better: troop easy Attacke dmg or troop load?

What is troop load bdw?

[opal gazelle]

Atk dmg is better obviously.

[stuck gust]

Ok what is troop load?!

[opal gazelle]

It's basically for farm heroes where they can carry more rss

Same size of troops but can load(carry) more rds

Rss

[stuck gust]

Ah lol so my First Intention war right xd thx for the explanation

[opal gazelle]

Hahaha welcome

[young isle]

you need any legendary weapon with a Squad DEF option like the one shown in this photo. You can smelt it, but the chance will only be between 2.7% and 4.1%.

[stuck gust]

And if I have a Attribute on a Rider vest like infantry dmg reduction, it lower the dmg from infantry Troops Right?

[soft barn]

No

[stuck gust]

Not XD?

[gritty jolt]

No, the “infantry” here is just identifying the troop type that it applies to. It means damage reduction for infantry troops.

[stuck gust]

Ahh ok kinda Bad Description from IGG but thx :)!

[silk blaze]

How much

[pallid shadow]

200 probably

There might be people who would pay more

[silk blaze]

200 that ain't shtt i remember selling junk for 399

Altough that was the very beginning of Refinery. Maybe people are tighter now

[scenic heart]

Just got a ranged/rider sqaud attack 6%, smelted it as cba too sell, just realised I could of got a few k for it, feels bad man

[pallid shadow]

That was before, when people bought junk more regularly. You can try for more. There might be a buyer, but I'm seeing two related gold atk/def listed at 200 more often now.

[opal gazelle]

I kept 200 same one with 5.9 and didn't sell xD

[opal gazelle]

That only when refine first came out now whales got what they wanted

[nimble plume]

10k

[stuck gust]

What is Troop TP?

[soft barn]

Uh, oh,

[muted lintel]

Hi Guys, how much could this go for?

[normal vine]

217

[stuck gust]

Someone Can help?

[pallid shadow]

I think it's HP, which is just another defensive stat but it has a bit more impact than defense does.

[errant dust]

u can raid more than 5?

[soft barn]

No, I just logged in an another device and those all popped up