#🪙┊refinery-n-auction

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fiery cometBOT
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⚒️ Coming Soon: The Refinery ⚒️

Commanders, a brand-new development path is about to open in Doomsday: Last Survivors! In the upcoming version update, three new major features: Resource Refining, Squad Equipment, and Free Trading, will reshape how you build, battle, and thrive in the wasteland.

These features are deeply interconnected, offering endless possibilities for strategy and growth.

💬 Check out the images for the full details and let us know in this channel, which feature are you most excited to try first!

reef kindle
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2M gold?

little pasture
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Id much prefer to trade my badges and extra junk in my bag...

frosty falcon
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Oh great another useless update that we will need to spend thousands on emoji_84_chigua

toxic seal
lament basin
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What a bunch of GARBAGE DLS, another p2w sht, and a crappy one at that, instead of giving the community what they have been asking for years now: a decent exchange/trade system, so that we can get legendary hero fragments, badges and such A BIT MORE EASY
What the f
ck is wrong with you?

forest fox
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Can we trade items like unused badges, speed ups, parts or what. If not what’s worth trading

little pasture
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Its funny, each update makes me more exhausted, rather than excited. Only a few quality of life updates have made me excited, Beast were cool, but this just adds another layer that I dont want to deal with 😓

lament basin
quiet gale
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Разработчик, похоже, намерен полностью уничтожить игру, вводя такие обновления с необоснованно высоким донатом. С такими подходами проект быстро утратит популярность.

tribal rose
potent vapor
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what does this mean? we make equipment and trade for gold?

little pasture
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They paid $500k to license Godzilla and Kong, now you gotta pay for emoji_84_chigua

errant dust
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people yearn for the mines

stable canopy
tribal rose
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Even cars lol

tacit otter
topaz magnet
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another money grabber. why not just give hero gallery instead.

tacit otter
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More way for whales to spend $$$?

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Classic IGG

stable canopy
little pasture
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My dumbass is still wondering when the "Gene" button will open on beasts.... and then we get this instead.

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Can't even finish the previous update before crapping out 7 other updates

stable canopy
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i hope Cynthia will read us

craggy goblet
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Wtf is this

stable canopy
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look like po op, smell like it, taste like it... but they said it's chocolate

errant dust
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@mint mesa don't just leave trash here and not respond again emoji_29_xiuse

wary cliff
flat slate
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This is an insane way for an average player to get a lucky roll and instantly make a ton of gold

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This is a solution to combat whales

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Finally igg is showing support for the f2p and everyday player

forest minnow
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The animals money revenue was starting to run dry, now it’s time for something new

heavy bison
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id 2035276248

lilac sorrel
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IGG's Solution to an upset player base: "Further piss off their player base"

flat slate
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This is the next arms and parts all over again

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A whole new lair of rng awaits

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BUT wait- everyday user who gets a lucky rng roll can instantly become rich via gold and sell

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I plan to buy low and sell high esp first early days of the house where most pl won't know what to price their stuff at inplan to buy it out and resell at a profit

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Become the greatest merchant of all

jolly cradle
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Yeah it is not gonna work like that

flat slate
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Afraid it will

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I am going to buy out specific elements and then re set the price

stable canopy
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anyway first you need money to buy in the begining

flat slate
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Control the market and set the prices..why? Because i am one of the greatest minds in this game

lilac sorrel
flat slate
stable canopy
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you need to injected money unlinked one to MAYBE get linked gold

flat slate
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You can do f2p

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The gold comes from the forge result basic rare or superb

stable canopy
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"BUY low sell high"

jolly cradle
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Yeah you're gonna spend money to list stuff, then you're gonna spend money to buy stuff. Good job. The only winner is IGG and thier gold sales

flat slate
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If you get lucky and get a superb with the right roll it's worth a lot

stable canopy
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you don't even understand yourself

flat slate
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You get one free ticket per week or something etc

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For sure it be f2p friendly

jolly cradle
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You clearly have trouble reading and comprehending sentences

stable canopy
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FOR SURE

flat slate
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It says tickets reduce the cut igg gets

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Anyone can list for free

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Igg won't be that greedy and take more than 10% i suspect

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So if a ticket reduces 10 to 5% commission that's tiny

flat slate
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Wow 5% i lose via a ticket big deal if j don't buy it

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The main strategy is understanding what to buy and for how much

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So I'll set there refreshing for hours waiting for a low buy

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Then take it and flip immediately for high

jolly cradle
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read

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Bozo

flat slate
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You don't have yo do it but that's why not everyone is gona be a super merchant like me

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Yes gold- you get equipment form the forge

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Forge is FREE

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You forge and then sell it

jolly cradle
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Sell it how pal? With g o l d

flat slate
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Yes you get gold

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You collect gold from the sale of the forge item you made

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It cost you nothing to forge, you list it..collect gold

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Now you have gold before you didn't have gold

jolly cradle
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How do you sell your first forge item... what do you need?

stable canopy
jolly cradle
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G o l d

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Learn how to read

flat slate
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Which are made over time and defended against raids

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Similar to trucks

jolly cradle
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Are you just playing dumb?

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I can't be bothered

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You're uniteresting to talk to

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Go outside

normal vine
trim linden
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@jolly cradle emoji_12_xiaoku

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Well said my good man lol 😂

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@normal vine emoji_12_xiaoku

pastel current
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Why they are not focusing on their bad quality servers

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Instead of bringing new things

craggy goblet
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they're blaming it on ping isntead of upgrading their server capcity

pastel current
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Why my ping not bothering with other games 🤣

craggy goblet
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emoji_38_doge because they base their server capacity on usage

pastel current
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They need to expand their server's

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Yesterday whole day I won't able to fight. Because it's lagging so bad and keep reloading in middle of zombies

pallid shadow
true cape
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Wow, a few new ways to spend our money, IGG has lost the plot completely.

stable canopy
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They use ai for the images so the code must be horrible explain why each time the chats are broken with the update

spare fulcrum
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Aray and slim clash off

spare fulcrum
low nimbus
normal vine
low nimbus
torn sand
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?

flat slate
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Forge is free

normal vine
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gosh i wrote free cuz of slim

flat slate
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To make things are free..players are in denial that igg released a spectacular new feature

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Why can't.peplle accept that for once we can make gold en mass off free easy to forge items and sell them.

low nimbus
flat slate
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If slim is excited about an update it must be good

normal vine
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if in 100 ppl 99 disagree and only u agree it doesn't mean your unique and correct it just mean your special🙂‍↔️

flat slate
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I am in the 1% club the people who make a living off others

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People who understand business and how the game operates

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I plan to make a mint on this auction market to be the top merchant

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If people don't wanna understand how to manipulate the auction house that's OK that's fine I will do it

normal vine
flat slate
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It costs 10k to have full superbs I did it under 3k

normal vine
flat slate
low nimbus
normal vine
low nimbus
normal vine
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probably 🙂‍↔️ but that's not the point

ember summit
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No more refinery!!

slate copper
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haha what a sh1tty gimmick

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just another armament cash grab

dense crystal
flat slate
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The fact that people don't understand what an amazing thing an auction house is blows my mind

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Igg literally said forging is free

dense crystal
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Here we go again

flat slate
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You don't need to buy ores you don't need to spend

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Just make it and sell it

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Earn real gold

carmine ingot
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What the fck is this new chat for???

flat slate
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A huge leg up to those who need gold

dense crystal
flat slate
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And i did claim all those free things and build an incredible account

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Using all the tips and tricks in the game

low nimbus
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You bought

flat slate
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With minium spend of 200 to 300 a month

dense crystal
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We've been assured it's not "heavily monetized" this new feature.
But that leaves a LOT of room for interpretation

flat slate
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That spend is equal to 1k a month on someone else

low nimbus
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Lies

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You spent more than 200-300 a month lol

normal vine
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for pokemons*

dense crystal
slate copper
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dont feed the troll .... he might be lacking of attention in real world , you dont have to give it to him here

dense crystal
slate copper
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clearly have issue

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and wrong treatment

chrome panther
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Well, when i actually think nothing can suprise me from IGG, they do it again.

digital stirrup
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I can't find time to play Water Wars with so many stuff to click around, now I have to do more clicking, soon I'll need a subscription for just clicking...Cannot wait for Genes also, need to create 70 items just to use 2 heroes. Now if anybody missed selling CSGO Skins on Steam Market, we have that covered 😅

open sable
gray cove
gusty plover
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Never known a game to wanna kill its players off so fast… congrats igg! 1st place for the best game for just straight up teabagging us!!

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Igg= I got greedy

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Now my players are gone

median sinew
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Just discovered that refinery and new equipment coming to the game. It's going to be a LOT of fun emoji_05_weisuoxiao

gray cove
# fiery comet <@&907345870146658345> <@&1107585373573488680>

So let me get this straight… the announcement says, “Use gold to buy and sell equipment,” but then the very next line says, “All commanders can freely list or purchase equipment.”

Which is it? Do we need gold, or is it free? Or is this just another one of your many announcement screwups where the wording doesn’t even match what you’re trying to say?

In my humble opinion, this whole thing doesn’t read like “new content” - it reads like yet another cash grab to squeeze more gold out of players. This screams more money for IGG, not more fun for the players.

chrome panther
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Yeah, 3 years in game IGG finally decided to give something good free. Naaah, big big p2w coming.

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They even have in picture blue/purple/gold stuff, as with arnaments, beasts...
We will get plenty of blue and purple i guess.

coarse oar
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So the big gap between low spender and big spender arent big enough it’s time to make more ppl quit?

onyx basalt
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the update this game needs is to send all 20+ vehicles megawhales to apex regardless if they joined budding warzone alliance or 2.5b might alliance, not this trash

chrome panther
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They dont care. 1% of game will still buy everything possible first day already.

onyx basalt
median sinew
silk zealot
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Great! More things to make f2p players fall agaisnt whales

slate copper
spare fulcrum
narrow ravine
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Ok time to leave this game and let IGG fck game alone

lapis jewel
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cool idea, but whale oriented realisation of course

light tulip
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Keep ignoring the community IGG and you will lose it. Release solutions to the current problems.

lapis jewel
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old kooks if you know what I mean

digital stirrup
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I'm still pissed about healing 😅

light tulip
eager ridge
lapis jewel
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don't forget about beasts'es genes. IGG preparing something great there. But you guys won't delete this game, no matter you say

median sinew
pallid shadow
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I'll be surprised if beast genes happen

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They never even actually said anything about them. It's just a button that was there. They've had several buttons there that just don't do things, like the presidential skills and the old voice chat button.

digital stirrup
tender compass
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🫣

median sinew
fierce elbow
narrow ravine
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It took them years to put a button for troop restrictions in the towers more than to hope that it takes them as long to develop the features of the beast genes 😂

gritty salmon
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What is this channel

chrome panther
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Btw, rip to all people who use multiple troop types with this new thing.

chrome panther
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If you want 3 troop type, you will need to upgrade x3.

gritty salmon
median sinew
fringe wraith
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Y mas dinero

somber hare
soft barn
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Refinery seems like the uranium mine in Age of Z. The ore from this an extra resource used to upgrade things above what was then the cap (eg HQ26+)

lament basin
quick kernel
stable canopy
median sinew
stable canopy
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he see 200 usd as minimal spend but call it f2p friendly ahahaha

chrome panther
lapis isle
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if you can't stop the game from timing out every 30 seconds, maybe you shouldn't be releasing new money grab "features" that add nothing to the game experience

chrome panther
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If infantry player needs only to do 1 troop type, and people with inf/rider/ranged need to do 3, i think that is scary.
You cant compere that to arnaments. Because everybody needed to do 5 sets of arnaments.

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Also, workshop gives lethality/protection no matter what you upgrade. And attack/defence depending on that leth/prot.

sturdy cypress
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Squad Equipment is what I’ll try first—new strategies and stronger battles incoming!

young isle
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I am lucky i upgrade 5 squad rider only less maintenance more hit!

tribal rose
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I'm unlucky I installed this game

chrome panther
muted sentinel
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Is this T7?

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I remember when people complained pet will be added, it was not named pet but beast. Now queried t7 will be released. I hope it doesn't have impact on the damage output, then it's not t7..hopefully it's for cosmetic

pallid shadow
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Not sure how it'd be cosmetic because all of the troops are invisible in optimized mode and playing this game without optimized mode is not really an option any more.

dense axle
harsh elm
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Show me da money

muted sentinel
rare wadi
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Put more stuff into the game MORE MORE MORE! Dont give a F about the lags and performane issues you already have - WHO CARES IF THE GAME IS PLAYABLE AS LONG AS PLAYERS CAN AND DO SPEND MONEY!

clear talon
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When is the next money grab? I mean... update.

patent fiber
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what people asking for :

STABLE SERVER during event at least.
Exchange their thousand heros frags
Game bug fixes
Less clicks, more fun

What Igg offer :

Collab for spend money, no new gameplay ( rebrend water war is water war rebrended)
New P2W events
Unstable game because of all shitttty stuff they add without any code optimization.
Click during hours for shitttty reward, then freeze, lag, crash during event, even during their own main event world cup
Oh see, a new P2W update
(Please forgot Beast Gene, why finish the previous update when we can add new stuff for make game even more unstable)

flat slate
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Literally everyone missing the point here..its not a cash grab if WE are the ones making money

tender compass
normal vine
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When everyone is missing the point and only you are getting. So are you really getting the point? 🙄

dense crystal
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Please, remind me

flat slate
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Its been almost 2 years

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This particular opinion is strictly based on what i read from igg..its literally supported by their own statements

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Players can "freely" place items on the market

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Selling tickets reduce the % you pay to igg on a sale

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Players are encouraged to Hustle

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Key word hustle and earn..earn..their keep

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Word for word

dense crystal
# flat slate Its been almost 2 years

Ok so, wading through some more empty platitudes, creative interpretations, and far too confident statements given the info we have, remind me when this hasn't backfired on you before?

flat slate
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This opportunity to have an auction house in our game is a defining moment for Doomsday

dense crystal
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You're giving crypto bro lines verbatim- empty confidence

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Neeeeeever backfired for you or anyone nope

spare fulcrum
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Crypto bro lines.. does that equate to male podcasts

median sinew
pallid shadow
wet shadow
obtuse wind
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Please scrap this idea. the game already takes too long just to do dailies. Are you trying to drive people away?

Not to mention it will be full of bugs and add to the performance problems

tawny bane
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This idea is dumb. I've been waiting 2 years since migration opened up for a single good update. I've tried to be positive IGG but I'm done. Selling up and leaving. :/

shut stirrup
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How it works

median sinew
# shut stirrup How it works

You get a new building. It dig minerals and then refine it.
People can attack you to steal your minerals.
You use minerals you have to create equipment for your Infantry/Ranged/Rider troops.
(?Equipment can be stolen?)
You take the equipment you made and put it in Auction house.
If people want the item, they pay it with gold nuggets.
(?IGG will take a fee on the transaction?)

charred aurora
pallid shadow
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That as well, yes

patent fiber
median sinew
eager ridge
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Wtf is this new forging equipment shite? We already have equipment, armament and workshop. Now they want us to do more ? Igg really be looking to juice out every ounce of money before their game shuts down, they cant even fix their horrible servers for 3 months nowemoji_22_xiaochou

charred aurora
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and they totally gave up on beast genes :/ lol its confusing.

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but then again, we all pay for it, so we are all culpable.

eager ridge
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I stopped my spending by 90% because of the heal cap and this new server lagging, i guess the new equipment will be the last nail to the coffin for meemoji_22_xiaochou

alpine forge
boreal magnet
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When it'll be released? Any date or something?

tender compass
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"Soon"

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Maybe like June

rose minnow
tribal rose
worn knoll
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Igg shove this update up your a** and fix the servers you money hungry bitches.you are the real Gold digger

jovial locust
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這是誰

chrome panther
pallid shadow
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Got to wonder if they'll pair it with more server instability or not

chrome panther
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Ofcourse, they go together.

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Adding totally new stuff without fixing old problems is never good.

lapis isle
pallid shadow
chrome panther
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They think people finished with arnaments, so they adding new hustle. 😆

pallid shadow
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Their big spenders are finished with armaments*

chrome panther
chrome panther
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I think number of whales who have maxed workshop is double digit now, atleast.

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Or if not maxed, at lvl24.

naive flower
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Surely IGG just trolling at this point

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Maybe bring out some of the things you’ve already talked about like the using of excess fragments before you introduce another p2w cash grab

chrome panther
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That is already done, its coming in june.
We are now curently in process of adding more demage in game. Because that is exactly what we all need. More heavy injured troops in hospital!
Reduce healing , but increase demage. What could go wrong. emoji_22_xiaochou

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And littl cherry on top is lag, so you cant control your troops, and get even more troops in hospital. emoji_22_xiaochou emoji_22_xiaochou

slate copper
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Just reduce spending, if IGG keep adding useless stuff without getting good feedback, they might start to think about the game

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If we keep spending everything they give to us, why should they change ?

charred aurora
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As I have said, we are entirely culpable for this abuse. we support it.

flat slate
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Everyone is excited about this new auction house.. time to make gold as per IGG advise

pallid shadow
flat slate
charred aurora
flat slate
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Freely post items..you only need to buy the ticket if you want to reduce the listing fee

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It says reduce fee to make more profit

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It doesn't say it's not a free listing

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So you can craft and post items free and make gold as a f2p

flat slate
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The gold is flowing from whales pockets into f2p a transfer of wealth

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Whales will be the ones buying the equipment from the f2ps

charred aurora
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you tink F2P are going to get the equipments that Whales are going to need before the whales do?

median sinew
charred aurora
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exactly. its not like F2P are going to corner the market with their No Spending lol

flat slate
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The best items will be rolled by f2p not whales

pallid shadow
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I'm not sure where you get the impression whales are lazy. Why would they be trying to get the most rewards in events if that were the case?

flat slate
pallid shadow
flat slate
spare fulcrum
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One of slims riddle

charred aurora
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you assume they wont have a pay to win element where the whales will jut be able to BUY the stuff to merge for better equipment.

fallen lark
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they are trying to drive people away been calling this out from the start... I'm not even going to build the dang thing xD

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barely got started on beasts so definitely going to put this on the backburner

dense crystal
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That works fine if you only play by yourself 😆

dense crystal
stable canopy
pallid shadow
vale wigeon
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What!! another Nightmare!!mai_angry

craggy goblet
charred aurora
fluid furnace
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esperando ansiosamente como será esta nueva modalidad del juego

weary crest
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Does update fix unbalanced regions and events? 3 year old accounts still playing with new players?

Then its trash. Theres nothing else to say. Its a money grab without even seeing it.

vast mantle
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It's better to fix the server issues at every event, delays and lag occur, but we'll have more features for money, nothing new.

quick kernel
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so when is the update coming?

lavish pond
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Will the gold be unlinked? If so i will setup multiple farms selling staff and transfering them to the main account.

novel cave
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More, more new features, we don't need stable connection and stable servers, we don't need fair matchmaking, we don't need how to spend trash in our backpacks, the feature that we don't need the most is battle preference for AR and Genesis, we need just new features where we can spend our moneyemoji_12_xiaoku

median sinew
median sinew
wise sierra
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Yeah all this "new" stuff is fantastic, but can IGG first sort out all the problems with the "old" stuff. We were assured that frags for heroes that is awakened can be used to upgrade other heroes, which is still not implemented. The game lag in events makes it nearly impossible to play, the 500 clicks per day limit is ridiculous and needs to be set to at least 5000.

soft barn
onyx basalt
pallid shadow
onyx basalt
pallid shadow
onyx basalt
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wasn't that changed too? feel like I only got linked gold now

craggy goblet
mossy spear
young isle
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Selling high-grade Infantry gear, looking to trade for Rider gear – just a sample message for now, soon I’ll be spamming this when Refinery started

safe scaffold
craggy goblet
soft barn
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It has to be anonymous listing and you dont get to choose the price, otherwise it will be exploited in nanoseconds emoji_12_xiaoku

median sinew
pallid shadow
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We will all know tomorrow

median sinew
scenic heart
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I've not even looked into this yet, looking at the comments I don't even want to know.

craggy goblet
spare fulcrum
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We all know death is gonna spend

flint hollow
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Well just like beasts I am gonna skip this as well 😅 I am too tired and busy to keep grinding and i aint spending 4-5 thousand on damn game

chrome panther
weary osprey
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Make the sever stable first 😫

craggy goblet
chrome panther
jaunty olive
abstract radish
fresh steeple
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who wants to bet the freezing and server issues will only get worst after they add all this

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emoji_84_chigua 😭 🤣

weary crest
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Igg will never let the players exploit each other thats their job the auction house will be trash money grab

drowsy forge
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1882414996

prisma rampart
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Everything about this game is about gold,diamons and cahs invested! Is no fun anymore....

grand vale
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Get ready for the nightmare 🫡

median sinew
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Yeeeeeeaaaah, the gates of hell open emoji_08_haixiuweixiao

ancient widget
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육성이 쉽지 않네요

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경찰서 조각 모음에서 이미 현재 내가 완성 시킨 영웅의 조각 대신 다른걸로 보상을 바꾸어 주면 좋겠다는 생각이 드네요

tired star
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money money money

ancient widget
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ㅎㅎㅎ

ionic orbit
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Money

ancient widget
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다ㅜ돈 ㅠㅠ

ionic orbit
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👍

ancient widget
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쉽지 주지 않을 조각 확률이 너무 낮아요

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현재 루이스 각성을 위해서 노력 중입니다

tired star
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my bank was cry in nightmare

vast mantle
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💰

ancient widget
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돈 많이 없어요

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😁 선물 드리고 싶지만 ㅠㅠ

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하루 벌어 하루 사는 하루살이 인생이라서

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모두들 즐겜 되시고,득템요

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점검 하는건 좋은데 제대로 점검 하면 좋겠네요 버그가 너무 심함 ㅠㅠ

tired star
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chronos please come here

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i need see that it!

half flare
ancient widget
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무엇을 하든 내가 즐거워야 힘이 나요!!!

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모두들 화이팅요!!!

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영어는 잘 모르겠지만요

quick storm
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You have to grind 50 hours a week for 2 gold pieces xxxxx

flat slate
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Purples are 5k to 9k

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You can make gold like crazy and basically fund your entire account

zinc wolf
limber wind
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🙁

oblique void
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Halo averyone, im safeme
This is my account discord

gloomy path
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why maintance so long

limber wind
serene crane
frigid field
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Hello, why don't you add the Persian language, which has many players in this game, to the game so that we Iranian players can enjoy this game more and talk to other players. I and the Iranian players of this game would be happy if you added this language to the languages ​​​​available in the game.

limber wind
stoic valley
#

As long as the whales keep trying to be the first ones to get everything (which nobody cares) the developers will keep on adding more ways to take money.
Not to be mean but...
Big whale equals small 🦐
🤣

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Anyways, whales are to blame for the st**pid prices in the game.... And it'll never end cause they're too easy for the developers.

brazen briar
#

Another new feature , another way IGG digging player wallet

slate copper
#

Whales are like sugar daddy and IGG keep getting easy money off of them. If it works, why should they change ?

rare grove
slate copper
#

As long as whales are spending like its not their own money, nothing will change 😅

stoic valley
slate copper
#

Its no use complaining when we are the cause this game going downhill so fast

#

Not even sure if they can get their money back by selling their account

#

You might get a fraction , maybe

flint topaz
#

I do not understand what I am doing just clicking stuff

young isle
quaint spruce
#

Who the fuc gonna buy this sht with 10k gold

stoic valley
#

One more st**upid thing added to the game and you can just get robbed while you sleep.

Nice (not) 🤣💩

I wonder who's the idiot in IGG planning these lame additions that started with the cars, beasts... Blah blah blah. Every single thing money money money.

quaint spruce
#

Real they just so azzz they don't had anything to bring new to spend fukkkkkrs bring armament for troops and also they need hone what a shhit igg dev eating 🤣

flint topaz
#

So I select the armament I want to equip, it says deployed, but then the placeholder is still empty. I feel very dumb but what am I doing wrong?

stoic valley
#

somebody did a copy/paste of an old update letter 

His hands were shaking so much for more money that didn't even noticed what he did.

A freaking 2x would've been nice in the beast exploration fights since you have to do 100 levels every week for just no reason

flint topaz
#

but I want to equip my riders 🥹

little chasm
#

Can you plunder material from the warehouse or is it only uncollected material you can plunder?

chrome panther
#

I already see some nasty buffs there. 3.5% sqd dmg. This gonna increase further gap for sure.

burnt mist
#

I can’t equip them??

#

Maybe I need to recall my troops and try again

flint topaz
#

yes that worked

#

wow the feedback message feels so unfinished, you need to guess everything

static drum
#

Oh joy, now the whales will just steal everyone's stuff. Just another thing to destroy smaller guys

burnt mist
flint topaz
#

yes recall all troops to your shelter

median bloom
quaint spruce
static drum
#

No that they can't

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But they can steal from your refinery, which is not fair

proper iron
#

☠️

flint topaz
#

just spend it all I guess

quaint mauve
#

too confusing 👎

quaint spruce
wraith cosmos
#

uncheck the thing at the bottom to see more

quaint spruce
junior tangle
#

LOL the prices ??

quaint spruce
wraith cosmos
junior tangle
quaint spruce
#

Equipment have crazy buff increase 🫠 up to 7%

flint topaz
#

this is what I noted that's not very well explained:

  1. In the Smith you can craft only with alloy
  2. Equip the selected armament with your troops in the shelter
  3. Enhance the equipment of your main troop type by dismantle everything else
  4. Smelt it's like honing and changing the armament attributes, it does not work with alloy so it does not seems to propose a material for it, it feels unfinished
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so overall it's just the same mechanics as heroes armaments, but now at troop type level

ocean latch
#

How to play refinery?

little chasm
flint topaz
#

I just find similar might people when trying to raid, it feels the same as the truck things

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and I can banish the raids of my alliance members, this is somehow as wastesland explorationg team help mechanics

little chasm
#

The difference being if you're a whale or in an alliance with a whale, they can banish the intruder and stop your stuff being stolen....

quick storm
#

It’s just more pissing about another silly update xxxxx

flint topaz
#

the only good thing about this feature, is that there is not much gold that could accelerate this new armament development except for the 500 gold package, so the everyone can develop at the same peace and the only gap is those 500 gold (+ 500 for the monthly thing)

#

but I do not like this extra layer of things to improve

chrome panther
#

For now.

#

Its only day 1. They will add packs, no worry.

flint topaz
#

I cross my fingers to be like the trucks

#

If someone figured out how to hone the things, please let us know

#

it seems like an unfinished feature

ember wagon
ember wagon
quaint spruce
flint topaz
#

I have that material and it does not let me use it

#

🙁

rare relic
#

DLS ends

onyx basalt
flint topaz
#

how did you got the specialized attributes? they were the default ones?

tight orchid
#

anyone knows where the smelting materials to change options are

chrome panther
onyx basalt
#

But kinda feel like trying to sell lol

vernal kayak
#

des programmeurs de merde

still shore
late helm
#

I just want to know if there’s still any chance for F2P players to enjoy this game after the latest update.
I only spend about $1 a month for sunken treasure rewards.

chrome panther
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Its like you hit sqd dmg reduction on all your arnament devices.

onyx basalt
chrome panther
# onyx basalt Prices bound to go down is what I'm thinking

Sure, you will get good gold for it, but it comes down to, can you buy something better with that ammount of gold.
If you run 4 rider squads, that is 4x 3.7% dmg reduction basicly. 3,7% each squad.
I think if you using chips trying to achive that, ypu wpuld spend probable over 1k chips.

errant dust
#

hmmm I think if it's going down anyway, might as well get the gold and just buy gears once it goes down

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heck, if you're lucky u can snipe some trades for 500-1k withg ood stats

chrome panther
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Yes, but you loose fighting capability like that. You wait for price to go down fir how long? Month, two, three? That is a lot of fighting events.

errant dust
#

I guess it depends on the person what they want

chrome panther
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I just saw red attibute, it was 9% inf defence. 💀

prisma rampart
#

WTF ar those prices on rafinery auction? For real??? Who the fck pay that kinda much money for a stupid weapon????

chrome panther
#

That is double the ammount from red inf def from arnaments.

proper pebble
#

addition that no one asked for.

where should I start.

  • if you raid other player, enemy might is generally higher
  • even if you "think" you can beat them, a bigger friend of theirs can block your raid
  • you need 50 gold to sell stuff
  • the price of goods there are nasty
tight orchid
#

whats that materials needed to smelt weapon options

errant dust
pallid shadow
#

Funny how they tell us it won't be "heavily monetized" but then you've got this

errant dust
#

oh nice

chrome panther
#

No aliance gold? Just personal?

eager ridge
pallid shadow
devout carbon
errant dust
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I can't misclick random things into buying it

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not having any gold helps me too

pallid shadow
#

And it costs gold to list things

errant dust
#

does it turn to linked gold if u manage to sell smthng

chrome panther
#

Where goes gold from selling? Non-linked?

eager ridge
pallid shadow
storm gazelle
#

How can you tell which gold is "not real" gold?

pallid shadow
pallid shadow
chrome panther
#

All gold passes bonus from goldmall are linked gold i think. So, not those either.

eager ridge
proper pebble
#

the 100 gold one gives you 0.5% attack and 0.5% def 🤌

pallid shadow
chrome panther
#

So, if you want to buy equipment, it needs to be direct from gold packs.
No aliance vault, no any sort of gold passes bonus.

willow cypress
#

the things in auction are highly overrated don't buy them

pallid shadow
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And if you want to sell equipment, I'm not sure if the fee can be linked or not. Either way, just having a fee for listing it in addition to the fee from the sale itself has me completely ignoring the auction house.

chrome panther
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I dont even have anything to sell, so im skiping it. emoji_12_xiaoku

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And most of gold i have left from before is linked gold anyway. So cant even buy.

willow cypress
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there are 3 tokens for free per a week to list items

eager ridge
#

They could do a random auction house where people can buy and sell anything, that would have made this better

chrome panther
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I saw that attributes that you get from smelting are much stronger then from arnaments.

#

9% def/attack are maximum.

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Double the ammount of arnaments one.

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Soooo, if im whale, i would go full lethality/block on arnaments, and att/def on troops arnaments.

drifting rock
#

Big update now they're going to destroy me faster emoji_26_shengqi emoji_26_shengqi emoji_26_shengqi emoji_26_shengqi

onyx basalt
#

irregular intervals for things to be listed so you can't just sell for cheap to yourself or a friend

chrome panther
#

And not forget the fact that we just added extra demage to game that already have healing limits.

#

Big demage.

pallid shadow
chrome panther
#

Forget pay to win, its pay to play.

young aurora
#

need money to play this shiit

#

Greedy asf

craggy goblet
#

It won't even let me equip them to infantry

chrome panther
#

How we increase this 3?

fair cipher
errant dust
#

we get free 10 ores daily, right?

#

idk where I read that hmm

#

ahh fromt he refinery, we can increase daily ore the higher level itis

scenic heart
#

If you have gold available, i would suggest sitting on the auction page, people don't know what they are selling emoji_38_doge

craggy goblet
fair cipher
#

I guess they needed a small walkthrough for this thing when anyone logs in.

errant dust
#

would be nice if there's a rarity filter

pallid shadow
plain belfry
fair cipher
#

It took me a while to figure it out as they don't allow to change hero's arms after they're deployed. Same with this. 🥲

craggy goblet
errant dust
#

the fee's fixed or a % of the set price?

craggy goblet
pallid shadow
errant dust
#

imagine setting it with an additional 0

#

poor market fee

craggy goblet
pallid shadow
#

Double dipping

proper pebble
#

ok, lets see how many things one need to do everyday.

Login

  • complete radar station x2 cycle
  • farmers to farm
  • do zombie for toolbox
  • do hiveminds for victory badge
  • get memory trip rewards
  • do arena of doom x5
  • do beast invasion (let it auto run by itself)
  • do bounty (many times)
  • check arms race x6
  • do titan approaches x3
  • train troops x4
  • buy from secret shop x4
  • check police station x 10
  • click survivors camp
  • do shipment center x4
  • raid other's shipment x4 + 1 truck
  • complete beast training
  • do beast trapping x10
  • claim freebies from mall
  • web events claim x 2

now add

  • help ally defend from robber in refinery
  • raid other's refinery x4

not to mention

  • other pvp events like water wars, genesis, ar, ir.
  • side events like farming, zombie hunt, troops training
  • themed events like godzilla and complete missions.

good luck for new player. hope you don't quit so fast.
(I am in the impression its otherwise).

pallid shadow
flint topaz
silk blaze
#

Can you create squad equipment without gold or does that cost too?

#

Forge. Whatver it's called

pallid shadow
silk blaze
#

Sounds to me like a way to obtain gold without buying or getting from the clan

pallid shadow
#

It costs gold to list things in the "auction" house.

silk blaze
#

Yes but 5-10% maybe of what you sold for

pallid shadow
#

No, it costs 50 gold to even list it. Then they take 8% of the sale.

silk blaze
#

Oh. But if you sell you're going + in gold stilk

pallid shadow
#

Yeah, and if you don't sell I guess you've just spent 50 gold on nothing

silk blaze
#

No they give you 40 of it back so you lose 10

pallid shadow
#

If you manually cancel it

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I think if it just expires you're out 50

storm gazelle
#

so the start of the auction bots begins

silk blaze
#

Yes if you manually end it or if it ends automatically (end time no bids)

craggy goblet
pallid shadow
onyx basalt
silk blaze
#

Yeah the 1. Paragraph says it

pallid shadow
#

Anyway, -10 gold each time because after the first day, nobody is going to buy anything except the absolute rarest stuff.

craggy goblet
pallid shadow
#

I love how they set a max price of 1 million gold as if anybody anywhere is ever going to spend that on one of these things

storm gazelle
#

so far I haven't seen anything worth much?

pallid shadow
#

In my opinion none of it will ever be worth anything

silk blaze
#

Oh it will be

craggy goblet
#

The 3 random attributes seem to just always be useless

pallid shadow
#

And none of it could ever possibly be worth 100,000 USD

silk blaze
#

Look at all the people that have special vehicles

craggy goblet
#

Just keep what has a decent buff

silk blaze
#

Depending on how good the attributes are it will definitely get focus

onyx basalt
#

sold a random purple infa atk buff for 1k gold not too bad 😂
edit: technically 1000 - 80 tax - 50 fee

#

can confirm it's linked gold after sale

silk blaze
#

Can Kong be both with gold,

#

What you mean linked gold?

fair cipher
devout carbon
silk blaze
#

Put on addiction😂

pallid shadow
fair cipher
silk blaze
#

So is the gold earned from there locked up?

onyx basalt
#

only for normal packs

chrome panther
#

Rip linked gold.

storm gazelle
#

what is linked gold?

#

only for the auction house?

onyx basalt
#

I legit sold much worse than this for double the price 😂 market's random af right now

fair cipher
pallid shadow
quick storm
#

This is horrific more players are walking away and quitting in their droves

chrome panther
#

How you guys geting that much golden equipment. I barely got purple one. emoji_22_xiaochou

hollow void
silk blaze
#

Ofcourse they restrict the gold so that regular players remain bought out of the competitiveness forever

craggy goblet
fair cipher
onyx basalt
silk blaze
#

Can't have people getting the best biomechs or vehicles without buying👎

chrome panther
pallid shadow
craggy goblet
#

Is there no limit to stopping alliance plunder

silk blaze
#

The only remedy was to get to spend the gold elsewhere

onyx basalt
storm gazelle
#

I mean a bot could do that in about 2 minutes of coding

#

the 500 gold thing seems almost manitory

spring schooner
#

12 attempt to log in I got in once

storm gazelle
#

I guess not trying to login solves that

peak ridge
#

immediately there is a bug..

I protect my comrade's from plunder, and now, the plunderer = ally.

quick storm
#

You get no reward for helping people defend raids? 😶‍🌫️

onyx basalt
#

I won't snitch tho

pallid shadow
#

I already did

flint topaz
#

so the specialized attributes can not be changed, only increased in value up to their max 🙁

pallid shadow
#

It seems to be that way

errant dust
#

should be kept that way

safe fjord
#

Ridiculous addition, this game slowly becomes unplayable

pallid shadow
#

I don't know about slowly. They seem to be working at it pretty rapidly.

dusty canopy
#

Send rider

#

If anyone find new rider

proper pebble
#

you can actually plunder people from different region, with way lower might than yours.

click on the shelter and got the "hand" icon on the right.

good luck defending

craggy goblet
#

The plunder button in refinery mostly targets i can't hit

errant dust
#

like truck, can hunt people u want

proper pebble
#

I believe people will mark the alliance and hunt there every now and then

pallid shadow
proper pebble
#

if dont have any strong player to help def, then gg

craggy goblet
#

I'll go tomorrow

craggy goblet
jolly cradle
#

And would you look at that, just like usual AraY is right and @flat slate is wrong

flint topaz
#

they appear in the combat log

#

same happened to me with Daryl HP buff

stable canopy
quick kernel
#

so whats the gold you get back after you sell something? linked or not?

median sinew
quick kernel
stable canopy
#

No... We are just afraid to quit because coming back is not possible for us...

low nimbus
#

I'd like to thank the whales for buying my garbage from the auction and giving me nearly 12k gold so far.

onyx basalt
stable canopy
quick kernel
#

anyone noticed the "training attempts: 2" attribute for each item? I think there is a limit how many times you can list an item for sale when it doesnt get bought

low nimbus
low nimbus
low nimbus
quick kernel
#

someone can tell where do we get those crystals from? the ones we put for refining

quick kernel
low nimbus
low nimbus
#

Also you're buying these items for the specialized stats to increase your good legendary ones.

#

So these crack babies selling for 10k gold and garbage stats are just dumb lol

fallow brook
granite egret
#

🟠

quick kernel
low nimbus
#

You then hunt the auction for a higher % specialized attribute to use as a component to smelt them higher.

onyx basalt
#

you take a specialized from one to put in another?

low nimbus
#

Only if they are the same

flint topaz
#

AFAIK you can only increase the existing specialized attribute, not change it

onyx basalt
#

so need 3 good specialized (any %) and 2 good basic?

low nimbus
#

So your legendary is, def, hp, att. You need a legendary with ONE of those attributes to increase your legendary ones.

flint topaz
#

so you will first need to craft this weapon getting lucky with 3 good specialized attributes

low nimbus
#

You can only increase them.

onyx basalt
#

so the market's gonna be about legendaries with all good attributes, or 1 good and high % attribute

low nimbus
flint topaz
#

the high % attribute is less important because you can reuse any existing weapon to dismantle and level the weapon up

#

you just need the good attributes, then leveling up seems to be easier and free

low nimbus
#

So infantry squad att and infantry squad def is what your looking for in thr auction to buy. Then you use the one you bought in the auction to increase the % of one of those attributes

onyx basalt
low nimbus
onyx basalt
#

improving cuz 4.6 is higher than 3.3 right?

low nimbus
weary crest
#

Cant even login

low nimbus
#

Smelting material % needs to be higher than the one you are wanting to smelt.

flint topaz
low nimbus
#

Like honing attributes lol

#

So you either wait a looong time crafting them yourself or buy from the auction.

spring schooner
#

Your update has made it unplayable in cancelling all subscription

low nimbus
#

Hardest is getting a good legendary with good specialized stats to even start with.

onyx basalt
#

so need all attributes good, 1 specialized high value, or just dismantle 😂

low nimbus
#

Rest is either money (auction) or time sink in crafting and waiting

low nimbus
past spire
#

are these stats only for field or for rally and garrison as well?

low nimbus
#

And buy one you need.

spring schooner
#

What about the network kag

#

Kag

#

Lag

flint topaz
#

This one I got is somehow good for my garrison, too bad I got two gathering attributes 😭

low nimbus
onyx basalt
#

need a whale to buy my overpriced 3.7% rider squad dmg red pls 🙏

low nimbus
low nimbus
onyx basalt
#

how much

pallid shadow
gray cove
#

How long did it take you to realize you can’t flip items for gold with the new refinery?

Here’s the deal: yeah, there’s a 3-day wait before you can resell, but the real joke is the gold you get when you do sell. It’s linked gold, not normal gold, so you can’t use it to buy anything new. It’s like selling something on eBay and getting a gift card that can’t buy a thing - useless for flipping.

So yeah… You can either sit on your items or spend real gold if you want more. Genius, right? Only IGG could make a ‘refinery’ that’s really just a clever way to keep you spending.

low nimbus
#

But they probably used it to increase a good one?

pallid shadow
low nimbus
onyx basalt
#

1.5k seems decently cheap tbh, I sold 3.1% infa def for 1k

pallid shadow
spring schooner
#

I went up against a whale, could not invite anyone because of network lag

#

I lost a lot of troops, check your logs, no more money from.e

flint topaz
#

did you open a ticket?

spring schooner
#

Ne

onyx basalt
#

damn how'd you lose troops in the refinery?

flint topaz
#

good, complain in discord always work

spring schooner
#

Ne

spring schooner
flint topaz
#

mmm sorry to hear that, and you are telling me that because?

spring schooner
#

I'm just saying this recent update is crap, thousands of us agree

flint topaz
#

🤣

spring schooner
#

Ok laughing in face.. excellent

#

Nice pr work

thick prism
#

Has anyone managed to put equipment on his car? It just doesn't work for me, I get the message "Deployed" when I try. Or is it that I am not understanding something?

thick prism
#

already tried

flint topaz
#

🙁

spring schooner
#

Its crap

#

I spend money on this game and it's turned into crao

#

Crap

#

I want a refund

burnt mist
chrome panther
hollow knot
onyx basalt
#

hopefully don't regret this price soon emoji_84_chigua

pallid shadow
craggy goblet
# onyx basalt

emoji_13_daku my 700 didn't sell yet
How you get people to pay so much

craggy goblet
#

I have some yellows but the affix are mostly useless

#

Oh nvm someone just bought it
No idea why, the affixs sucked

pallid shadow
#

If it does work, I can get the weekly vehicle metal thing

craggy goblet
low nimbus
pallid shadow
#

Yeah, mine is blue rider attack, purple squad attack, and purple attack. If someone is bad at thinking, 500 gold will seem like a deal.

#

Well, 550 because of tax

low nimbus
silk blaze
#

So is precious ore buy only?

onyx basalt
#

I'd just use it if didn't sell but would always be temporary

craggy goblet
#

Not even half a day yet.
I assume once the crafting levels go up the amount of good gear will be higher

onyx basalt
#

it's good for now but for sure I wouldn't pay that for something I'll use now and discard soon

silk blaze
#

Can the attributes not change

onyx basalt
#

still a better deal for the buyer than whoever paid 1k for 3.1% infa def and 2 other trash specialized 😂

craggy goblet
onyx basalt
silk blaze
#

So the special attributes will be different for people having the same weapon

onyx basalt
#

yea

craggy goblet
low nimbus
#

You ideally want 3 good ones

#

But 2/3 is decent as well.

onyx basalt
#

my focus rn is making some gold lol

craggy goblet
#

Maybe in a few weeks I can try

silk blaze
#

The that would mean the attributes will be upgraded on what they are aswell. If it gathers would it will gather wood better - not become something else

craggy goblet
#

Did you see 30d cooldown to change your chosen gear type

#

So gotta do 1 type per month

low nimbus
onyx basalt
#

it's 3k gems

low nimbus
#

Yeah

#

I just looked

craggy goblet
silk blaze
#

But what's unlinked gold

#

Non-linked

craggy goblet
#

It can be donated to alliance vault

silk blaze
#

Who buys? I have 500 gold and 700 linked gold i have never bought

craggy goblet
#

Alliance gold distribution is linked
I think auctions linked too

thick prism
hollow knot
silk blaze
#

Linked to what

#

Can gold earned from selling at refinery auction be spent elsewhere in the game?

onyx basalt
silk blaze
#

Ok

#

Seems unneccesary with this linked-unlinked stuff

onyx basalt
#

it's to prevent people from farming gold with their farms

chrome panther
dense crystal
pallid shadow
dense crystal
#

Ahahahahahah
RIP @flat slate

onyx basalt
#

it makes sense cuz otherwise you could just send gold from farms to main by selling trash at overpriced value

silk blaze
#

I have linked and regular gold but never bought🤔

pallid shadow
onyx basalt
#

and selling for real money or bots

craggy goblet
low nimbus
silk blaze
#

Ok so that means if i don't buy gold i will never get to buy items in tje refinery

chrome panther
pallid shadow
silk blaze
#

All squad equipment becomes buy only

low nimbus
#

7% is shown as the highest.

#

Oh orange one

chrome panther
#

Not sure how then, but i saw 9% inf def, red color.

low nimbus
#

Weird it doesn't show that listed

#

Brb gonna go look for it

dense crystal
low nimbus
craggy goblet
#

emoji_22_xiaochou my infantry now have some gathering buff

dense crystal
#

And also, regardless, it's by default now a completely monetized feature, not just a "heavily" monetized one 😆😆

craggy goblet
#

The only 2 red affix i see in auction are gathering and squad load

versed musk
#

I've got some goodies on sale cheap

#

has 2 spec attributes you can upgrade for rangers

craggy goblet
versed musk
#

only 1000 gold

low nimbus
#

Shows 7% max, orange attribute is 7%

silk blaze
#

Why didn't they make auctions in gems i stead of gold

craggy goblet
pallid shadow
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But remember, they said this is "not heavily monetized."

silk blaze
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So non-paying buyers will never get to buy in the auctions

onyx basalt
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buffs would be irrelevant if it was with gems

silk blaze
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Just habe what they manage to forge themselves

pallid shadow
craggy goblet
versed musk
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I also have this gun with two special attributes that can be smelted and upgraded it's only 500 gold

craggy goblet
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emoji_38_doge because f2p are just there to benefit whales anyway

silk blaze
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Man this game is so trash. I remember Warhammer 40K Lost Crusade it looked like this. Only buy thing was 1 hero

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Here everything is buy

versed musk
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Anyway if anybody is interested they are steals, you can just search them up with filters, they are both for rangers

pallid shadow
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gathering gun. 500 gold. Steals for whom, exactly?

fair cipher
craggy goblet
versed musk
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I smelted my gun up from a common to a legendary look at it before and after...

fair cipher
craggy goblet
craggy goblet
versed musk
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I got a gun with 6% def for 200 gold lol and smelted it up from 2.8%

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You want to try and get a gun with 2 special attributes for your squad and smelt it up

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I have 2 for sale atm going cheap for rangers

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jump in and grab one if you are a ranger

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I don't really need the gold that bad, but it's a good deal for someone. i run riders

versed musk
versed musk
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they are mixed

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whats bad about def and attack lol

craggy goblet
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Only the squad dmg red is useful

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Low values

versed musk
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4.5% lol thats high

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anyway troll on brother

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every single rider squad gets that buff, plus it has a 2.8% buff on rider att, it's really hard to get a gun with both att and def as one types special attribute

fair cipher
versed musk
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ofc I'm keeping it

storm gazelle
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I got gold with basic squad attack ranged squad skill dmg and +6% ranged attk .... and 4.4% rider def and some gathering lol

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luckily I am a ranged player lol

tribal rose
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I got zombies equipment and gathering equipment

Luckily Infantry is more and more useless, i will finally be able to replace my cars and farm with Infantry with this

storm gazelle
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😄 😄

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I only have 150k cars left... I deleted the other 400k

median sinew
jaunty olive
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Guys am i right in understanding that you cant change whatever stats you initially roll, just enhance them?

storm gazelle
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hmmm I will have to make guns for a month then switch to the mask then the other 2 and rotate

polar spade
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whats that smelting material needed to smelt specialized attributes? How to get it?

storm gazelle
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I think it is weapons with the same substats

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from what I read

jaunty olive
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So this piece with 2 infantry stats probably is worth a lot more than this piece, because you can find the legendary version of these infantry stats individually and enhance it with 2 infantry stats while the other one is stuck mixed

tribal rose
jaunty olive
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That mechanism only allows you to enhance the same stat

storm gazelle
jaunty olive
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Not swap stats around

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Like this

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You can enhance your purple stat using a legendary stat

storm gazelle
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indeed but I think blue substats have a max of the blue top level

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?

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or can they go into purple?

tribal rose
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Why not enhance legendary stat using purple

jaunty olive
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Because the thing you cant change is the number of stats on the gear

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If something has 1 infantry stat and that one infantry stat is higher, the other two stats are useless and you cant change it

tribal rose
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So armaments but you cant use honing chips

jaunty olive
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So to enhance my infantry stat on a piece of gear I have to get the same weapon + the same stat for a random chance at enhancing it

craggy goblet
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💀 didn't know you can go to shelter manually until too late

tribal rose
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You haven't raided yet how is it late?

storm gazelle
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don't you get the raid chance back if you fail?

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lol

craggy goblet
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Out of raids

storm gazelle
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you didn't pick gold everytime before?

tribal rose
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0/5 means out of raids?
Shouldn't it be 5/5?

craggy goblet
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Wtf building uses 0/5 increasing.
And the raid area is 5/5 decreasing

storm gazelle
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😄

craggy goblet
tribal rose
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?

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My brain aint braining

craggy goblet
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Nvm I remember wrong

craggy goblet
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Or panda with his triple yellows unclaimed

tribal rose
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I raided 4 times all the golden alloys
Took me few hours lol

I don't think ill be doing this daily, too much time consuming

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Maybe if i had 2 raiding slots, but with 1 its a pain

soft barn
chrome panther
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So basicly, main thing here is to buy same equipment and to smelt it.

fair cipher
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Same equipment with atleast one attribute same

craggy goblet
craggy goblet
chrome panther
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Has to same peace of equipment i think.

storm gazelle
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same type like gun or vest or ?

chrome panther
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Same as specific gun or soecific west.

fair cipher
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Like same specialized attribute you wanna increase

craggy goblet
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I guess same basic attributes same picture

storm gazelle
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the very same type of gun O_O

craggy goblet
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Idk, I have to wait a while for when I forge more

chrome panther
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So we need same equipment and same attribute? Kinda to much.

storm gazelle
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basic attibute you increase from breaking the trash up

onyx basalt
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how to get to the page where you speedup friends' refinements?

chrome panther
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It will be hard get gold equipment constantly. So buying will be no1 option for it.

craggy goblet
fair cipher
chrome panther
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In order to smelt some attribute, you need higher attribute of same kind, right? To smelt 2.7att, you need 2.8 att or higher?

craggy goblet
chrome panther
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This will take ages. 3 troop type x 4 slots x ammount of golden equipment out.

fair cipher
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This one is gated pretty hard

chrome panther
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I think there is over 10 hones possibilities.

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21 different attribute there.

craggy goblet
jaunty olive
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I have yet to see a piece of gear on the auction house with 3 stats that line up together- the holy grail since you can't change those stats

zinc wolf
chrome panther
craggy goblet
chrome panther
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Logicly, it will just replace it i guess.

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Venom already have 4m might on it.

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4.7m*. But we cant see what he have.

craggy goblet
real tendon
jaunty olive
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Only 10k usd emoji_22_xiaochou

silk blaze
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I don't what to do guys should i buy a picture with 3 purple squares or car🤔

jaunty olive
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So basically you need 2 things here.

  1. You need a base of equipment that naturally comes with 3 usable stats as those cannot be changed.

  2. Then you need a bunch of the exact same armament with high stats for each of your stats to tune them up.

This is a big whale trap but theoretically a lot of the stuff the whales need comes via luck so there should be opportunities for the average Joe to score big.

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If you use the same weapon with a 6% attack stat as a material and your current weapon has a 2% attack stat, the stat improvement could be anywhere from 2.1% - 6% which means that the materials you use could be a total waste.

silk blaze
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So you need the same item with ranger - squad damage - squad damage attributes to upgrade it?

jaunty olive
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So lets say your gear piece is like this

2% ranged squad attack
2% ranged squad dmg
2% squad damage

this would be an ideal base right?

You then need to find the exact same item piece with a upgraded version of any of these 3 stats to use as material to upgrade it. So if you wanted to upgrade Ranged Squad damage you need an identical equipment piece with ranged squad damage buff higher than the piece you are upgrading.

Lets say your material piece has 4% ranged squad damage and you use it on your original piece...

You could get anything from 2.1 - 4% ranged squad damage on your original piece.

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The most valuable pieces are anything with 3 stats that work together regardless of their current tier because while the color grade matters for equipment it doesnt matter for stats as far as I can tell

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You can have a green infantry def% stat on a legendary piece and use a legendary stat to upgrade it, and it could potentially become legendary. But you probably want to take it piece by piece and use blue stats, purple stats etc so the gap it is bridging when you use the big legendary stat is lower

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1% attack with a 6% attack material could become 1.1% attack, but if you buy a bunch of 3 4 5 % attack materials first then there is less chance if your legendary upgrade being a huge waste

chrome panther
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Good thing IGG made effort to explain anything about new feature.

pallid shadow
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Big effort

chrome panther
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We here lab rats just finding our way from the maze.

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Lab rats who pay btw to be in the maze.

fair cipher
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I have ended up forging legendary equipments from the jobs I don't have proficiency in.

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And actually got crap when forging for the proficiency one. Huge rng involved with this. Proficiency doesn't work as it states for me atleast. Legendary alloys gave common vests and elite alloy for non-proficiency gave legendary equipment with 6% ranged defence when I use ranged💀

nocturne shadow
onyx basalt
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250 gold take it or leave it 😂

fair cipher
# nocturne shadow

I would get it if I had a copy of similar equipment but not lucky with forging 🤣

flat slate
pallid shadow