🪙┊refinery-n-auction

[fiery comet]

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⚒️ Coming Soon: The Refinery ⚒️

Commanders, a brand-new development path is about to open in Doomsday: Last Survivors! In the upcoming version update, three new major features: Resource Refining, Squad Equipment, and Free Trading, will reshape how you build, battle, and thrive in the wasteland.

These features are deeply interconnected, offering endless possibilities for strategy and growth.

💬 Check out the images for the full details and let us know in this channel, which feature are you most excited to try first!

[reef kindle]

2M gold?

[little pasture]

Id much prefer to trade my badges and extra junk in my bag...

[frosty falcon]

Oh great another useless update that we will need to spend thousands on

[toxic seal]

Forge Squad Equipment for free in the Refinery. High-grade Equipment can be sold through the Auction House.

Images are for reference only. Please refer to the actual in-game content.

[lament basin]

What a bunch of GARBAGE DLS, another p2w sht, and a crappy one at that, instead of giving the community what they have been asking for years now: a decent exchange/trade system, so that we can get legendary hero fragments, badges and such A BIT MORE EASY
What the fck is wrong with you?

[forest fox]

Can we trade items like unused badges, speed ups, parts or what. If not what’s worth trading

[little pasture]

Its funny, each update makes me more exhausted, rather than excited. Only a few quality of life updates have made me excited, Beast were cool, but this just adds another layer that I dont want to deal with 😓

[lament basin]

Dude, we won't is another p2w crap, and useless. It's yet again ANOTHER MIDDLE FINGER from DLS to the entire community or the vast majority of it.

[quiet gale]

Разработчик, похоже, намерен полностью уничтожить игру, вводя такие обновления с необоснованно высоким донатом. С такими подходами проект быстро утратит популярность.

[potent vapor]

what does this mean? we make equipment and trade for gold?

[little pasture]

They paid $500k to license Godzilla and Kong, now you gotta pay for

[errant dust]

people yearn for the mines

[stable canopy]

idk what it is but we don't want it

[tribal rose]

Armaments but instead of for Heros it looks to be for troop types

Even cars lol

[tacit otter]

Wtf is this craps????

[topaz magnet]

another money grabber. why not just give hero gallery instead.

[tacit otter]

More way for whales to spend $$$?

Classic IGG

[stable canopy]

that's the "t7" yeap make the grind from the vehicle useless

[little pasture]

My dumbass is still wondering when the "Gene" button will open on beasts.... and then we get this instead.

Can't even finish the previous update before crapping out 7 other updates

[stable canopy]

i hope Cynthia will read us

[craggy goblet]

Wtf is this

[stable canopy]

look like po op, smell like it, taste like it... but they said it's chocolate

[errant dust]

@mint mesa don't just leave trash here and not respond again

[flat slate]

Yes you craft equipment and if you get a lucky roll yoy make a ton of gold

This is an insane way for an average player to get a lucky roll and instantly make a ton of gold

This is a solution to combat whales

Finally igg is showing support for the f2p and everyday player

[potent vapor]

Sell my luck

[forest minnow]

The animals money revenue was starting to run dry, now it’s time for something new

[heavy bison]

id 2035276248

[lilac sorrel]

IGG's Solution to an upset player base: "Further piss off their player base"

[flat slate]

This is better than new

This is the next arms and parts all over again

A whole new lair of rng awaits

BUT wait- everyday user who gets a lucky rng roll can instantly become rich via gold and sell

I plan to buy low and sell high esp first early days of the house where most pl won't know what to price their stuff at inplan to buy it out and resell at a profit

Become the greatest merchant of all

[jolly cradle]

Yeah it is not gonna work like that

[flat slate]

Afraid it will

I am going to buy out specific elements and then re set the price

[stable canopy]

anyway first you need money to buy in the begining

[flat slate]

Control the market and set the prices..why? Because i am one of the greatest minds in this game

[lilac sorrel]

https://tenor.com/bh6zC.gif

[flat slate]

You only need money to accelerate the forge

[stable canopy]

you need to injected money unlinked one to MAYBE get linked gold

[flat slate]

You can do f2p

The gold comes from the forge result basic rare or superb

[stable canopy]

"BUY low sell high"

[jolly cradle]

Yeah you're gonna spend money to list stuff, then you're gonna spend money to buy stuff. Good job. The only winner is IGG and thier gold sales

[flat slate]

If you get lucky and get a superb with the right roll it's worth a lot

[stable canopy]

you don't even understand yourself

[flat slate]

You get one free ticket per week or something etc

For sure it be f2p friendly

[jolly cradle]

You clearly have trouble reading and comprehending sentences

[stable canopy]

FOR SURE

[flat slate]

It says tickets reduce the cut igg gets

Anyone can list for free

Igg won't be that greedy and take more than 10% i suspect

So if a ticket reduces 10 to 5% commission that's tiny

[stable canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-say-so-jennifer-lawrence-gif-10549432

[flat slate]

Wow 5% i lose via a ticket big deal if j don't buy it

The main strategy is understanding what to buy and for how much

So I'll set there refreshing for hours waiting for a low buy

Then take it and flip immediately for high

[jolly cradle]

read

Bozo

[flat slate]

You don't have yo do it but that's why not everyone is gona be a super merchant like me

Yes gold- you get equipment form the forge

Forge is FREE

You forge and then sell it

[jolly cradle]

Sell it how pal? With g o l d

[flat slate]

Yes you get gold

You collect gold from the sale of the forge item you made

It cost you nothing to forge, you list it..collect gold

Now you have gold before you didn't have gold

[jolly cradle]

How do you sell your first forge item... what do you need?

[stable canopy]

[jolly cradle]

G o l d

Learn how to read

[flat slate]

Fire forged alloys

Which are made over time and defended against raids

Similar to trucks

[jolly cradle]

Are you just playing dumb?

I can't be bothered

You're uniteresting to talk to

Go outside

[normal vine]

bro think this is stock market

[trim linden]

@jolly cradle

Well said my good man lol 😂

@normal vine

[pastel current]

Why they are not focusing on their bad quality servers

Instead of bringing new things

[craggy goblet]

they're blaming it on ping isntead of upgrading their server capcity

[pastel current]

Yeah yeah I saw that stupidity

Why my ping not bothering with other games 🤣

[craggy goblet]

because they base their server capacity on usage

[pastel current]

They need to expand their server's

Yesterday whole day I won't able to fight. Because it's lagging so bad and keep reloading in middle of zombies

[pallid shadow]

I feel like it's the code more than server capacity. It got significantly worse throughout a series of patches and they weren't exactly patches that increased player numbers.

[true cape]

Wow, a few new ways to spend our money, IGG has lost the plot completely.

[stable canopy]

They use ai for the images so the code must be horrible explain why each time the chats are broken with the update

[spare fulcrum]

Aray and slim clash off

[spare fulcrum]

😆

[low nimbus]

Please pass along that all IGG are clearly off their meds and just like to milk their player base before they blow the game up.

[normal vine]

can i forge a brain for all the igg employee?

[low nimbus]

Nope, that is gonna be a restricted feature of $1,000,000

[torn sand]

?

[flat slate]

Forge is free

[normal vine]

we can crowd fund

gosh i wrote free cuz of slim

[flat slate]

To make things are free..players are in denial that igg released a spectacular new feature

Why can't.peplle accept that for once we can make gold en mass off free easy to forge items and sell them.

[low nimbus]

I'm out slim showed up, enjoy.

[flat slate]

If slim is excited about an update it must be good

[normal vine]

if in 100 ppl 99 disagree and only u agree it doesn't mean your unique and correct it just mean your special🙂‍↔️

[flat slate]

Most people are clueless man about the game and just want to complain

I am in the 1% club the people who make a living off others

People who understand business and how the game operates

I plan to make a mint on this auction market to be the top merchant

If people don't wanna understand how to manipulate the auction house that's OK that's fine I will do it

[normal vine]

if i was igg i'd hire you for ceo the vision the intelligence the aura you carry it unthinkable man

[flat slate]

People also said full superbs with 3000 purple hones to get all rare hones was also impossible for a low spender but I did it

It costs 10k to have full superbs I did it under 3k

[normal vine]

see what i said the vision you have man it's un comparable

[flat slate]

On this discord I have the highest number of contributions over the past 2 years

[low nimbus]

Because of your bs misinformation lol

[normal vine]

can't disagree i bet so many gals get wet reading your replies

[low nimbus]

Probably from the tears of horror.

[normal vine]

probably 🙂‍↔️ but that's not the point

[ember summit]

No more refinery!!

[slate copper]

haha what a sh1tty gimmick

just another armament cash grab

[dense crystal]

Taking quantity over quality to a new level

[flat slate]

The fact that people don't understand what an amazing thing an auction house is blows my mind

Igg literally said forging is free

[dense crystal]

Here we go again

[flat slate]

You don't need to buy ores you don't need to spend

Just make it and sell it

Earn real gold

[carmine ingot]

What the fck is this new chat for???

[flat slate]

A huge leg up to those who need gold

[dense crystal]

You know what else is free to access? Armaments, workshop, Beasts, equipment, tech, healing, training troops, etc etc

[flat slate]

Cant make gold off that

And i did claim all those free things and build an incredible account

Using all the tips and tricks in the game

[low nimbus]

You bought

[flat slate]

With minium spend of 200 to 300 a month

[dense crystal]

We've been assured it's not "heavily monetized" this new feature.
But that leaves a LOT of room for interpretation

[flat slate]

That spend is equal to 1k a month on someone else

[low nimbus]

Lies

You spent more than 200-300 a month lol

[normal vine]

hey don't be jealous he has the most significant contributions in discord

for pokemons*

[dense crystal]

Please stop or imma time you out.

[slate copper]

dont feed the troll .... he might be lacking of attention in real world , you dont have to give it to him here

[dense crystal]

Yep, very true, let's bring it back to the task at hand- feedback on this new feature 😆

[slate copper]

clearly have issue

and wrong treatment

[chrome panther]

Well, when i actually think nothing can suprise me from IGG, they do it again.

[digital stirrup]

I can't find time to play Water Wars with so many stuff to click around, now I have to do more clicking, soon I'll need a subscription for just clicking...Cannot wait for Genes also, need to create 70 items just to use 2 heroes. Now if anybody missed selling CSGO Skins on Steam Market, we have that covered 😅

[open sable]

[gray cove]

Exactly. I was just thinking that today. I run two accounts, and it feels like I waste so much of my life clicking through random nonsense just to get junk items. Just give me the items and send an email saying I got them - nobody enjoys that much pointless clicking.

[gusty plover]

Never known a game to wanna kill its players off so fast… congrats igg! 1st place for the best game for just straight up teabagging us!!

Igg= I got greedy

Now my players are gone

[median sinew]

Just discovered that refinery and new equipment coming to the game. It's going to be a LOT of fun

[gray cove]

So let me get this straight… the announcement says, “Use gold to buy and sell equipment,” but then the very next line says, “All commanders can freely list or purchase equipment.”

Which is it? Do we need gold, or is it free? Or is this just another one of your many announcement screwups where the wording doesn’t even match what you’re trying to say?

In my humble opinion, this whole thing doesn’t read like “new content” - it reads like yet another cash grab to squeeze more gold out of players. This screams more money for IGG, not more fun for the players.

[chrome panther]

Yeah, 3 years in game IGG finally decided to give something good free. Naaah, big big p2w coming.

They even have in picture blue/purple/gold stuff, as with arnaments, beasts...
We will get plenty of blue and purple i guess.

[coarse oar]

So the big gap between low spender and big spender arent big enough it’s time to make more ppl quit?

[onyx basalt]

the update this game needs is to send all 20+ vehicles megawhales to apex regardless if they joined budding warzone alliance or 2.5b might alliance, not this trash

[chrome panther]

They dont care. 1% of game will still buy everything possible first day already.

[onyx basalt]

all good with that just send them all to fight eachother instead of being rats hiding in lower leagues 🙏

[median sinew]

As I read it: you will be able to put items on auction, or by them, without paying a fee* to IGG.
The only accepted currency will be gold nuggets.

*What I mean with "paying a fee" is that the auction house (IGG) can demand for a % of the price when the item get listed, and/or when the item is actually sold.

[silk zealot]

Great! More things to make f2p players fall agaisnt whales

[slate copper]

"freely" doesnt mean its free, it means you are free to spend your gold

[spare fulcrum]

Nooooo HAHAHAHA

[narrow ravine]

Ok time to leave this game and let IGG fck game alone

[lapis jewel]

cool idea, but whale oriented realisation of course

[light tulip]

Keep ignoring the community IGG and you will lose it. Release solutions to the current problems.

[lapis jewel]

there is still lot of kooks, who eager to pay. IGG see statistic and keep pushing

old kooks if you know what I mean

[digital stirrup]

I'm still pissed about healing 😅

[light tulip]

Same, problem no.1 for me rn.

[eager ridge]

Isn't it the same buisness model for all chinese game? Short time gain

[digital stirrup]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha_game

[lapis jewel]

don't forget about beasts'es genes. IGG preparing something great there. But you guys won't delete this game, no matter you say

[median sinew]

Forgot about that. I wonder how that will mess up the game

[pallid shadow]

I'll be surprised if beast genes happen

They never even actually said anything about them. It's just a button that was there. They've had several buttons there that just don't do things, like the presidential skills and the old voice chat button.

[digital stirrup]

Still waiting to see what I do with the 1k Michelle Frags. Maybe they will make her nude and Legendary

[tender compass]

🫣

[median sinew]

I still have a brick of C4. Maybe someday they will let me use it on my account

[fierce elbow]

If there was money to be made, they would have released this feature before they went bankrupt.

[narrow ravine]

There is a button for voice messages from the beginning of the game "feature coming soon" 🤷

It took them years to put a button for troop restrictions in the towers more than to hope that it takes them as long to develop the features of the beast genes 😂

[gritty salmon]

What is this channel

[chrome panther]

Btw, rip to all people who use multiple troop types with this new thing.

[tender compass]

#🪙┊refinery-n-auction message

[chrome panther]

If you want 3 troop type, you will need to upgrade x3.

[gritty salmon]

[median sinew]

Ooooh, I misread. I thought it was Commander equipment

[jaunty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/making-it-rain-gif-617522917670078816

[fringe wraith]

Y mas dinero

[somber hare]

[soft barn]

Refinery seems like the uranium mine in Age of Z. The ore from this an extra resource used to upgrade things above what was then the cap (eg HQ26+)

[lament basin]

That 1% are gullible idiots that get easily manipulated and the rest of us have to pay for it.

[quick kernel]

just like commander equipment, just like vehicles, just like armaments and etc... you upgrade whatever you gonna use. nothing new, nothing scary

[stable canopy]

that's already a lot LOL

[median sinew]

You don't see the big picture
(Me neither, btw)

[stable canopy]

he see 200 usd as minimal spend but call it f2p friendly ahahaha

[chrome panther]

Arnaments and Workshop are not scary? That is where all the gap was made.

[lapis isle]

if you can't stop the game from timing out every 30 seconds, maybe you shouldn't be releasing new money grab "features" that add nothing to the game experience

[chrome panther]

If infantry player needs only to do 1 troop type, and people with inf/rider/ranged need to do 3, i think that is scary.
You cant compere that to arnaments. Because everybody needed to do 5 sets of arnaments.

Also, workshop gives lethality/protection no matter what you upgrade. And attack/defence depending on that leth/prot.

[sturdy cypress]

Squad Equipment is what I’ll try first—new strategies and stronger battles incoming!

[young isle]

I am lucky i upgrade 5 squad rider only less maintenance more hit!

[tribal rose]

I'm unlucky I installed this game

[chrome panther]

We will go back to inf main again 😆

[muted sentinel]

Is this T7?

I remember when people complained pet will be added, it was not named pet but beast. Now queried t7 will be released. I hope it doesn't have impact on the damage output, then it's not t7..hopefully it's for cosmetic

[pallid shadow]

Not sure how it'd be cosmetic because all of the troops are invisible in optimized mode and playing this game without optimized mode is not really an option any more.

[dense axle]

[harsh elm]

Show me da money

[muted sentinel]

Mistakenly clicking or hovering shelters causes lag..if you add more buildings without fixing that...that's more lag

[rare wadi]

Put more stuff into the game MORE MORE MORE! Dont give a F about the lags and performane issues you already have - WHO CARES IF THE GAME IS PLAYABLE AS LONG AS PLAYERS CAN AND DO SPEND MONEY!

[clear talon]

When is the next money grab? I mean... update.

[patent fiber]

what people asking for :

STABLE SERVER during event at least.
Exchange their thousand heros frags
Game bug fixes
Less clicks, more fun

What Igg offer :

Collab for spend money, no new gameplay ( rebrend water war is water war rebrended)
New P2W events
Unstable game because of all shitttty stuff they add without any code optimization.
Click during hours for shitttty reward, then freeze, lag, crash during event, even during their own main event world cup
Oh see, a new P2W update
(Please forgot Beast Gene, why finish the previous update when we can add new stuff for make game even more unstable)

[flat slate]

Literally everyone missing the point here..its not a cash grab if WE are the ones making money

[tender compass]

You really ought to refresh yourself on the game's ToS.

[flat slate]

Making gold

[normal vine]

When everyone is missing the point and only you are getting. So are you really getting the point? 🙄

[dense crystal]

Have you ever been correct about anything in this game ever?
I'm struggling so hard, replaying all of slims greatest hits- Stella, beasts, etc, and it's all fails, misinterpretations, and having to go back on it in between empty brags.

Please, remind me

[flat slate]

Its been almost 2 years

This particular opinion is strictly based on what i read from igg..its literally supported by their own statements

Players can "freely" place items on the market

Selling tickets reduce the % you pay to igg on a sale

Players are encouraged to Hustle

Key word hustle and earn..earn..their keep

Word for word

[dense crystal]

Ok so, wading through some more empty platitudes, creative interpretations, and far too confident statements given the info we have, remind me when this hasn't backfired on you before?

[flat slate]

If it all amounts to this moment this is the one to truly hang your hat on

This opportunity to have an auction house in our game is a defining moment for Doomsday

[dense crystal]

You're giving crypto bro lines verbatim- empty confidence

Neeeeeever backfired for you or anyone nope

[spare fulcrum]

Crypto bro lines.. does that equate to male podcasts

[median sinew]

Not needed. He IS the ToS of the game

[pallid shadow]

Consider he once told us he's a fan of tate. It makes everything he says make a lot more sense.

[wet shadow]

exactly. armaments decide rallies and garrison most of the time. refills are also important, but if you rally with 2mil armament power a boyd with 7mil, the losses of attackers will be massively bigger, and same way if we reverse it.
armaments -> vehicle -> beasts.. that is what wins most battles.

[obtuse wind]

Please scrap this idea. the game already takes too long just to do dailies. Are you trying to drive people away?

Not to mention it will be full of bugs and add to the performance problems

[tawny bane]

This idea is dumb. I've been waiting 2 years since migration opened up for a single good update. I've tried to be positive IGG but I'm done. Selling up and leaving. :/

[shut stirrup]

How it works

[median sinew]

You get a new building. It dig minerals and then refine it.
People can attack you to steal your minerals.
You use minerals you have to create equipment for your Infantry/Ranged/Rider troops.
(?Equipment can be stolen?)
You take the equipment you made and put it in Auction house.
If people want the item, they pay it with gold nuggets.
(?IGG will take a fee on the transaction?)

[charred aurora]

hes best friends with PikaJew... so lets understand his position a little clearer... :))

[pallid shadow]

That as well, yes

[patent fiber]

As i understand, Squad Equipment can't be stolen, only Alloys, i guess during refinement

[median sinew]

I also believe that should be the case.
But, since these items are going to be sold for golds, I am not 100% sure.

[eager ridge]

Wtf is this new forging equipment shite? We already have equipment, armament and workshop. Now they want us to do more ? Igg really be looking to juice out every ounce of money before their game shuts down, they cant even fix their horrible servers for 3 months now

[charred aurora]

and they totally gave up on beast genes :/ lol its confusing.

but then again, we all pay for it, so we are all culpable.

[eager ridge]

I stopped my spending by 90% because of the heal cap and this new server lagging, i guess the new equipment will be the last nail to the coffin for me

[alpine forge]

@queen moss

[boreal magnet]

When it'll be released? Any date or something?

[tender compass]

"Soon"

Maybe like June

[tribal rose]

I wish my account gets stolen so i don't have to play this game anymore

[worn knoll]

Igg shove this update up your a** and fix the servers you money hungry bitches.you are the real Gold digger

[jovial locust]

這是誰

[chrome panther]

Big update coming when new rider heroes arrive, so im guessing then.
So, in 10 days maybe?

[pallid shadow]

Got to wonder if they'll pair it with more server instability or not

[chrome panther]

Ofcourse, they go together.

Adding totally new stuff without fixing old problems is never good.

[lapis isle]

It's the modern spam. You can't avoid the disconnects.

[pallid shadow]

Yeah. I'm definitely going to skip out on Genesis. I barely have the resources to do it normally, but knowing they haven't fixed anything I'm not going to risk a guaranteed loss of everything.

[chrome panther]

They think people finished with arnaments, so they adding new hustle. 😆

[pallid shadow]

Their big spenders are finished with armaments*

[chrome panther]

I mean, knowing last GW, and how game worked this AR, i dont blame you at all.

[chrome panther]

Yes, this is true. They finished arnaments and workshop.

I think number of whales who have maxed workshop is double digit now, atleast.

Or if not maxed, at lvl24.

[naive flower]

Surely IGG just trolling at this point

Maybe bring out some of the things you’ve already talked about like the using of excess fragments before you introduce another p2w cash grab

[chrome panther]

That is already done, its coming in june.
We are now curently in process of adding more demage in game. Because that is exactly what we all need. More heavy injured troops in hospital!
Reduce healing , but increase demage. What could go wrong.

And littl cherry on top is lag, so you cant control your troops, and get even more troops in hospital.

[slate copper]

Just reduce spending, if IGG keep adding useless stuff without getting good feedback, they might start to think about the game

If we keep spending everything they give to us, why should they change ?

[charred aurora]

As I have said, we are entirely culpable for this abuse. we support it.

[flat slate]

Everyone is excited about this new auction house.. time to make gold as per IGG advise

[pallid shadow]

You are the only person who has said anything positive.

[flat slate]

People are so cynical for some reason when igg is giving a chance for all f2p to earn gold

[charred aurora]

lets say you DO get actual gold... do you think it will be a net positive or negative for the community

[flat slate]

Freely post items..you only need to buy the ticket if you want to reduce the listing fee

It says reduce fee to make more profit

It doesn't say it's not a free listing

So you can craft and post items free and make gold as a f2p

[flat slate]

If you get more gold you can dramatically increase your experience as things like growth fund or weekly vehicle packs will push your account so much further

The gold is flowing from whales pockets into f2p a transfer of wealth

Whales will be the ones buying the equipment from the f2ps

[charred aurora]

you tink F2P are going to get the equipments that Whales are going to need before the whales do?

[median sinew]

Why would they?
With a little investment (from their spending perspective), they can produce the items themselves, and sell what they don't need.
Meanwhile, attacking F2P to get resources and reduce the competition.

[charred aurora]

exactly. its not like F2P are going to corner the market with their No Spending lol

[flat slate]

Because whales are lazy thats why they spend second of all you can't "buy" rng so there is a lot more f2p than whales and rng is about mass numbers

The best items will be rolled by f2p not whales

[pallid shadow]

I'm not sure where you get the impression whales are lazy. Why would they be trying to get the most rewards in events if that were the case?

[flat slate]

Thry aren't tho often drop down to lesser brackets they don't care about rewards so much let's be honest

[pallid shadow]

Yeah, but not all whales are like jigsaw

[flat slate]

Correct..the equipment is a random chance to roll and f2p will be the main suppliers of the auction house as they are the highest demographic in the game

[spare fulcrum]

One of slims riddle

[charred aurora]

you assume they wont have a pay to win element where the whales will jut be able to BUY the stuff to merge for better equipment.

[fallen lark]

they are trying to drive people away been calling this out from the start... I'm not even going to build the dang thing xD

barely got started on beasts so definitely going to put this on the backburner

[dense crystal]

That works fine if you only play by yourself 😆

[dense crystal]

Gosh you're the kind of guy who's been deeply duped by capitalism while getting dunked on by it daily.
Sad to see

[stable canopy]

he is saying SSI are not whales for example

[pallid shadow]

He just projects. When he says "all whales think this" he means he thinks it.

[vale wigeon]

What!! another Nightmare!!

[craggy goblet]

Isn't the stuff all in that ore thing not gold

[charred aurora]

well its speculation. but they do SAY gold, and the fuzzy image does LOOK like gold, but it could very well be some new currency as well

[fluid furnace]

esperando ansiosamente como será esta nueva modalidad del juego

[weary crest]

Does update fix unbalanced regions and events? 3 year old accounts still playing with new players?

Then its trash. Theres nothing else to say. Its a money grab without even seeing it.

[vast mantle]

It's better to fix the server issues at every event, delays and lag occur, but we'll have more features for money, nothing new.

[quick kernel]

so when is the update coming?

[lavish pond]

Will the gold be unlinked? If so i will setup multiple farms selling staff and transfering them to the main account.

[novel cave]

More, more new features, we don't need stable connection and stable servers, we don't need fair matchmaking, we don't need how to spend trash in our backpacks, the feature that we don't need the most is battle preference for AR and Genesis, we need just new features where we can spend our money

[median sinew]

I was thinking something about the same line. In the worst case, we could gift something to the main account.
IF (big if) we are able to not get mineral robbed by other players

[median sinew]

Incoming!
#📣┊update-notes message

[wise sierra]

Yeah all this "new" stuff is fantastic, but can IGG first sort out all the problems with the "old" stuff. We were assured that frags for heroes that is awakened can be used to upgrade other heroes, which is still not implemented. The game lag in events makes it nearly impossible to play, the 500 clicks per day limit is ridiculous and needs to be set to at least 5000.

[soft barn]

What do you think? How likely is it they will let accounts just farm gold? The HLD for this feature will not be "lets allow players to get free gold and lots of free stuff easily along with creating a thriving black economy"

[onyx basalt]

the "link" feature for gold is already deprecated since they made every source become linked. seems they regretted having it be able to be donated

[pallid shadow]

What if they require unlinked gold to be used in the auction house, but all gold when recieved through it becomes linked? Wouldn't that be exciting?

[onyx basalt]

you can't get unlinked gold in any way

[pallid shadow]

Purchasing straight from the gold shop is still unlinked, no?

[onyx basalt]

wasn't that changed too? feel like I only got linked gold now

[craggy goblet]

The main gold is unlinked and bonus gold is linked

[mossy spear]

[young isle]

Selling high-grade Infantry gear, looking to trade for Rider gear – just a sample message for now, soon I’ll be spamming this when Refinery started

[safe scaffold]

I'll do swapsies with you spooky driving shoes, size 8 never worn...

[craggy goblet]

buying maxed equipment 1 gold

[soft barn]

It has to be anonymous listing and you dont get to choose the price, otherwise it will be exploited in nanoseconds

[median sinew]

Should be. But, who knows?

[pallid shadow]

We will all know tomorrow

[soft barn]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-sassy-gay-choreography-lgbt-gif-22409823

Me tomorrow

[median sinew]

I will wait for your tables with the best reeling stats 😁

[scenic heart]

I've not even looked into this yet, looking at the comments I don't even want to know.

[craggy goblet]

Spend more money for more troop power.
How much?
Who knows

[spare fulcrum]

We all know death is gonna spend

[flint hollow]

Well just like beasts I am gonna skip this as well 😅 I am too tired and busy to keep grinding and i aint spending 4-5 thousand on damn game

[chrome panther]

Did you maybe play g15 last AR?

[weary osprey]

Make the sever stable first 😫

[craggy goblet]

What's wrong with g15

[chrome panther]

Nothing, it was amazing G. I had opponent named Akamaru, thought it was maybe this one. 😅

[jaunty olive]

They specifically say squad equipment, there is zero chance they will allow this for hero armaments sadly xd

[jaunty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-gif-715799133269302892

[abstract radish]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-16565229595323670098

[zinc patio]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-money-money-money-money-money-money-gif-16670048503852599108

[fresh steeple]

who wants to bet the freezing and server issues will only get worst after they add all this

😭 🤣

[weary crest]

Igg will never let the players exploit each other thats their job the auction house will be trash money grab

[drowsy forge]

1882414996

[prisma rampart]

Everything about this game is about gold,diamons and cahs invested! Is no fun anymore....

[grand vale]

Get ready for the nightmare 🫡

[median sinew]

Yeeeeeeaaaah, the gates of hell open

[ancient widget]

육성이 쉽지 않네요

경찰서 조각 모음에서 이미 현재 내가 완성 시킨 영웅의 조각 대신 다른걸로 보상을 바꾸어 주면 좋겠다는 생각이 드네요

[tired star]

money money money

[ancient widget]

ㅎㅎㅎ

[ionic orbit]

Money

[ancient widget]

다ㅜ돈 ㅠㅠ

[ionic orbit]

👍

[ancient widget]

쉽지 주지 않을 조각 확률이 너무 낮아요

현재 루이스 각성을 위해서 노력 중입니다

[tired star]

my bank was cry in nightmare

[vast mantle]

💰

[ancient widget]

돈 많이 없어요

😁 선물 드리고 싶지만 ㅠㅠ

하루 벌어 하루 사는 하루살이 인생이라서

모두들 즐겜 되시고,득템요

점검 하는건 좋은데 제대로 점검 하면 좋겠네요 버그가 너무 심함 ㅠㅠ

[tired star]

chronos please come here

i need see that it!

[ancient widget]

무엇을 하든 내가 즐거워야 힘이 나요!!!

모두들 화이팅요!!!

영어는 잘 모르겠지만요

[quick storm]

You have to grind 50 hours a week for 2 gold pieces xxxxx

[flat slate]

Is that a joke? Legend pieces are going for 20k gold

Purples are 5k to 9k

You can make gold like crazy and basically fund your entire account

[limber wind]

🙁

[oblique void]

Halo averyone, im safeme
This is my account discord

[gloomy path]

why maintance so long

[limber wind]

Developing team taking a nap

[frigid field]

Hello, why don't you add the Persian language, which has many players in this game, to the game so that we Iranian players can enjoy this game more and talk to other players. I and the Iranian players of this game would be happy if you added this language to the languages ​​​​available in the game.

[limber wind]

I'm not an admin. Contact Cynthia

[stoic valley]

As long as the whales keep trying to be the first ones to get everything (which nobody cares) the developers will keep on adding more ways to take money.
Not to be mean but...
Big whale equals small 🦐
🤣

Anyways, whales are to blame for the st**pid prices in the game.... And it'll never end cause they're too easy for the developers.

[brazen briar]

Another new feature , another way IGG digging player wallet

[slate copper]

Whales are like sugar daddy and IGG keep getting easy money off of them. If it works, why should they change ?

[rare grove]

They forgot to add the option "no pay,no play"they adding it now

[slate copper]

As long as whales are spending like its not their own money, nothing will change 😅

[stoic valley]

They're like the HOs of the game but these HOs pay to get abused 🤣

[slate copper]

Its no use complaining when we are the cause this game going downhill so fast

Not even sure if they can get their money back by selling their account

You might get a fraction , maybe

[flint topaz]

I do not understand what I am doing just clicking stuff

[young isle]

trade

[quaint spruce]

Who the fuc gonna buy this sht with 10k gold

[stoic valley]

One more st**upid thing added to the game and you can just get robbed while you sleep.

Nice (not) 🤣💩

I wonder who's the idiot in IGG planning these lame additions that started with the cars, beasts... Blah blah blah. Every single thing money money money.

[quaint spruce]

Real they just so azzz they don't had anything to bring new to spend fukkkkkrs bring armament for troops and also they need hone what a shhit igg dev eating 🤣

[flint topaz]

So I select the armament I want to equip, it says deployed, but then the placeholder is still empty. I feel very dumb but what am I doing wrong?

[stoic valley]

somebody did a copy/paste of an old update letter 

His hands were shaking so much for more money that didn't even noticed what he did.

A freaking 2x would've been nice in the beast exploration fights since you have to do 100 levels every week for just no reason

[stoic valley]

Try different troop type

[flint topaz]

but I want to equip my riders 🥹

[little chasm]

Can you plunder material from the warehouse or is it only uncollected material you can plunder?

[chrome panther]

I already see some nasty buffs there. 3.5% sqd dmg. This gonna increase further gap for sure.

[burnt mist]

I can’t equip them??

Maybe I need to recall my troops and try again

[flint topaz]

yes that worked

wow the feedback message feels so unfinished, you need to guess everything

[static drum]

Oh joy, now the whales will just steal everyone's stuff. Just another thing to destroy smaller guys

[burnt mist]

It did?

[flint topaz]

yes recall all troops to your shelter

[median bloom]

How can I get the new weapons?

[quaint spruce]

They can raid weapons from which are in bag too???

[static drum]

No that they can't

But they can steal from your refinery, which is not fair

[proper iron]

☠️

[flint topaz]

just spend it all I guess

[quaint mauve]

too confusing 👎

[wraith cosmos]

uncheck the thing at the bottom to see more

[quaint spruce]

Still can't see anything is it glitch

[junior tangle]

LOL the prices ??

[quaint spruce]

I seen one with 200k

[wraith cosmos]

stranger, unchecked thing allow me to see other people, it's giga buggy atm tho

[junior tangle]

Yes there’s lots so crazy 🙃

[quaint spruce]

Equipment have crazy buff increase 🫠 up to 7%

[flint topaz]

this is what I noted that's not very well explained:

1. In the Smith you can craft only with alloy
2. Equip the selected armament with your troops in the shelter
3. Enhance the equipment of your main troop type by dismantle everything else
4. Smelt it's like honing and changing the armament attributes, it does not work with alloy so it does not seems to propose a material for it, it feels unfinished

so overall it's just the same mechanics as heroes armaments, but now at troop type level

[ocean latch]

How to play refinery?

[little chasm]

And whales can stop you progressing by stealing your alloy

[flint topaz]

I just find similar might people when trying to raid, it feels the same as the truck things

and I can banish the raids of my alliance members, this is somehow as wastesland explorationg team help mechanics

[little chasm]

The difference being if you're a whale or in an alliance with a whale, they can banish the intruder and stop your stuff being stolen....

[quick storm]

It’s just more pissing about another silly update xxxxx

[flint topaz]

the only good thing about this feature, is that there is not much gold that could accelerate this new armament development except for the 500 gold package, so the everyone can develop at the same peace and the only gap is those 500 gold (+ 500 for the monthly thing)

but I do not like this extra layer of things to improve

[chrome panther]

For now.

Its only day 1. They will add packs, no worry.

[flint topaz]

I cross my fingers to be like the trucks

If someone figured out how to hone the things, please let us know

it seems like an unfinished feature

[ember wagon]

Who wants to spend 1M gold

[soft barn]

https://tenor.com/view/checking-watch-chris-brander-ryan-reynolds-just-friends-would-you-look-at-the-time-gif-12693907534173761892

Is slim a millionaire yet?

[quaint spruce]

I think it's like dismantle excess equipment to get material to hone

[flint topaz]

I have that material and it does not let me use it

🙁

[rare relic]

DLS ends

[flint topaz]

how did you got the specialized attributes? they were the default ones?

[tight orchid]

anyone knows where the smelting materials to change options are

[chrome panther]

You ranged main, right? 💀

[onyx basalt]

Rider

But kinda feel like trying to sell lol

[vernal kayak]

des programmeurs de merde

[still shore]

Yeah, but it also makes the raiding pointless...

[late helm]

I just want to know if there’s still any chance for F2P players to enjoy this game after the latest update.
I only spend about $1 a month for sunken treasure rewards.

[chrome panther]

Why, that apply to all your squads? Its like really really good attribute.

Its like you hit sqd dmg reduction on all your arnament devices.

[onyx basalt]

Prices bound to go down is what I'm thinking

[chrome panther]

Sure, you will get good gold for it, but it comes down to, can you buy something better with that ammount of gold.
If you run 4 rider squads, that is 4x 3.7% dmg reduction basicly. 3,7% each squad.
I think if you using chips trying to achive that, ypu wpuld spend probable over 1k chips.

[errant dust]

hmmm I think if it's going down anyway, might as well get the gold and just buy gears once it goes down

heck, if you're lucky u can snipe some trades for 500-1k withg ood stats

[chrome panther]

Yes, but you loose fighting capability like that. You wait for price to go down fir how long? Month, two, three? That is a lot of fighting events.

[errant dust]

I guess it depends on the person what they want

[chrome panther]

I just saw red attibute, it was 9% inf defence. 💀

[prisma rampart]

WTF ar those prices on rafinery auction? For real??? Who the fck pay that kinda much money for a stupid weapon????

[chrome panther]

That is double the ammount from red inf def from arnaments.

[proper pebble]

addition that no one asked for.

where should I start.

• if you raid other player, enemy might is generally higher
• even if you "think" you can beat them, a bigger friend of theirs can block your raid
• you need 50 gold to sell stuff
• the price of goods there are nasty

[tight orchid]

whats that materials needed to smelt weapon options

[errant dust]

yeah, hone chips type of thing hsould not be introdued here

[pallid shadow]

Funny how they tell us it won't be "heavily monetized" but then you've got this

[errant dust]

oh nice

[chrome panther]

No aliance gold? Just personal?

[eager ridge]

so not the gold from clan vault

[pallid shadow]

Not even just personal, but personal directly purchased from IGG with real money

[devout carbon]

So far we can't even refine cause it's being raided by people much stronger. So waiting sounds not so bad

[errant dust]

I can't misclick random things into buying it

not having any gold helps me too

[pallid shadow]

Nope. You have to give them money to buy anything.

And it costs gold to list things

[errant dust]

does it turn to linked gold if u manage to sell smthng

[chrome panther]

Where goes gold from selling? Non-linked?

[eager ridge]

now that would be interesting lol

[pallid shadow]

I use the speedup oil for gold metal and let the green stuff sit to be raided. Not sure how much oil we get if this is viable or not

[storm gazelle]

How can you tell which gold is "not real" gold?

[pallid shadow]

I would bet for sure it is linked.

[pallid shadow]

The gold number at the top of the screen (when it's there) will tell you what is linked and what is not

[chrome panther]

All gold passes bonus from goldmall are linked gold i think. So, not those either.

[eager ridge]

its alright, who tf is gonna buy those using 10k gold

[eager ridge]

another slap from igg

[proper pebble]

the 100 gold one gives you 0.5% attack and 0.5% def 🤌

[pallid shadow]

People playing with someone else's money, if anyone.

[chrome panther]

So, if you want to buy equipment, it needs to be direct from gold packs.
No aliance vault, no any sort of gold passes bonus.

[willow cypress]

the things in auction are highly overrated don't buy them

[pallid shadow]

And if you want to sell equipment, I'm not sure if the fee can be linked or not. Either way, just having a fee for listing it in addition to the fee from the sale itself has me completely ignoring the auction house.

[chrome panther]

I dont even have anything to sell, so im skiping it.

And most of gold i have left from before is linked gold anyway. So cant even buy.

[willow cypress]

there are 3 tokens for free per a week to list items

[eager ridge]

They could do a random auction house where people can buy and sell anything, that would have made this better

[chrome panther]

I saw that attributes that you get from smelting are much stronger then from arnaments.

9% def/attack are maximum.

Double the ammount of arnaments one.

Soooo, if im whale, i would go full lethality/block on arnaments, and att/def on troops arnaments.

[drifting rock]

Big update now they're going to destroy me faster

[onyx basalt]

irregular intervals for things to be listed so you can't just sell for cheap to yourself or a friend

[chrome panther]

And not forget the fact that we just added extra demage to game that already have healing limits.

Big demage.

[pallid shadow]

Don't worry about that because they also gave us the option to pay them money to heal a little bit faster.

[chrome panther]

Forget pay to win, its pay to play.

[pallid shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[young aurora]

need money to play this shiit

Greedy asf

[craggy goblet]

It won't even let me equip them to infantry

[chrome panther]

How we increase this 3?

[fair cipher]

Recall all infantry troops, even the ones in auto rally

[errant dust]

we get free 10 ores daily, right?

idk where I read that hmm

ahh fromt he refinery, we can increase daily ore the higher level itis

[scenic heart]

If you have gold available, i would suggest sitting on the auction page, people don't know what they are selling

[craggy goblet]

why don't they tell you that

[fair cipher]

I guess they needed a small walkthrough for this thing when anyone logs in.

[chrome panther]

But non-linked gold.

[errant dust]

been looking for 500 ones to snipe

would be nice if there's a rarity filter

[pallid shadow]

None of it is worth money though.

[plain belfry]

Aye defo mate, absolute wankers

[fair cipher]

It took me a while to figure it out as they don't allow to change hero's arms after they're deployed. Same with this. 🥲

[craggy goblet]

Do they get the fee back if it doesn't sell

[errant dust]

the fee's fixed or a % of the set price?

[craggy goblet]

Armanents actually tells you that you can't

[pallid shadow]

It doesn't say anywhere so I'm assuming not.

[errant dust]

imagine setting it with an additional 0

poor market fee

[craggy goblet]

Rip whats the fee for a million gold

[pallid shadow]

50 gold to list. Then they take 8% from any sale in addition

Double dipping

[errant dust]

yeah

[proper pebble]

ok, lets see how many things one need to do everyday.

Login

• complete radar station x2 cycle
• farmers to farm
• do zombie for toolbox
• do hiveminds for victory badge
• get memory trip rewards
• do arena of doom x5
• do beast invasion (let it auto run by itself)
• do bounty (many times)
• check arms race x6
• do titan approaches x3
• train troops x4
• buy from secret shop x4
• check police station x 10
• click survivors camp
• do shipment center x4
• raid other's shipment x4 + 1 truck
• complete beast training
• do beast trapping x10
• claim freebies from mall
• web events claim x 2

now add

• help ally defend from robber in refinery
• raid other's refinery x4

not to mention

• other pvp events like water wars, genesis, ar, ir.
• side events like farming, zombie hunt, troops training
• themed events like godzilla and complete missions.

good luck for new player. hope you don't quit so fast.
(I am in the impression its otherwise).

[pallid shadow]

New players have to click on a whole lot more just to get down to this level of clicking

[flint topaz]

Dis you changed the specialized attributes somehow? Or you got lucky on those?

[silk blaze]

Can you create squad equipment without gold or does that cost too?

Forge. Whatver it's called

[pallid shadow]

The forging can be done without any gold. The gold is just for the "auction" house.

[silk blaze]

Sounds to me like a way to obtain gold without buying or getting from the clan

[pallid shadow]

It costs gold to list things in the "auction" house.

[silk blaze]

Yes but 5-10% maybe of what you sold for

[pallid shadow]

No, it costs 50 gold to even list it. Then they take 8% of the sale.

[silk blaze]

Oh. But if you sell you're going + in gold stilk

[pallid shadow]

Yeah, and if you don't sell I guess you've just spent 50 gold on nothing

[silk blaze]

No they give you 40 of it back so you lose 10

[pallid shadow]

If you manually cancel it

I think if it just expires you're out 50

[storm gazelle]

so the start of the auction bots begins

[silk blaze]

Yes if you manually end it or if it ends automatically (end time no bids)

[craggy goblet]

Not mine, I sort auction by price and I saw this 1 million gold listing

[pallid shadow]

Oh yeah, it does say that part too. It's early for me so I didn't read well.

[onyx basalt]

it's still 10

[silk blaze]

Yeah the 1. Paragraph says it

[pallid shadow]

Anyway, -10 gold each time because after the first day, nobody is going to buy anything except the absolute rarest stuff.

[craggy goblet]

Most of them seem pretty bad.
Idk why anyone would spend $10 on them

[pallid shadow]

I love how they set a max price of 1 million gold as if anybody anywhere is ever going to spend that on one of these things

[storm gazelle]

so far I haven't seen anything worth much?

[pallid shadow]

In my opinion none of it will ever be worth anything

[silk blaze]

Oh it will be

[craggy goblet]

The 3 random attributes seem to just always be useless

[pallid shadow]

And none of it could ever possibly be worth 100,000 USD

[silk blaze]

Look at all the people that have special vehicles

[craggy goblet]

Just keep what has a decent buff

[silk blaze]

Depending on how good the attributes are it will definitely get focus

[onyx basalt]

sold a random purple infa atk buff for 1k gold not too bad 😂
edit: technically 1000 - 80 tax - 50 fee

can confirm it's linked gold after sale

[silk blaze]

Can Kong be both with gold,

What you mean linked gold?

[fair cipher]

Never underestimate human intelligence

[devout carbon]

I don't remember where I read it, bit it costs 50 good to put on addiction and if it doesn't sell you get 40 back. So 10 are lost

[silk blaze]

Put on addiction😂

[pallid shadow]

It really just feels like wishful thinking on IGG's part.

[fair cipher]

*overestimate

[silk blaze]

So is the gold earned from there locked up?

[onyx basalt]

yes it's linked. can't use to buy other stuff

only for normal packs

[chrome panther]

Rip linked gold.

[storm gazelle]

what is linked gold?

only for the auction house?

[onyx basalt]

I legit sold much worse than this for double the price 😂 market's random af right now

[fair cipher]

Like how they price their packs, it is something they can come up with. Players also learning how to rip off their fellow spenders with this auction house.

[pallid shadow]

But the one who profits is IGG, since it has to be unlinked gold. They've just outsourced the workload to the player.

[quick storm]

This is horrific more players are walking away and quitting in their droves

[chrome panther]

How you guys geting that much golden equipment. I barely got purple one.

[silk blaze]

Ofcourse they restrict the gold so that regular players remain bought out of the competitiveness forever

[craggy goblet]

[fair cipher]

Yeah, genius move. Give players the ability to list at unimaginable prices and get some gold back. Idk why they need that gold for listing as if they can convert it to money with secret trick humanity doesn't know about.

[onyx basalt]

used speed and bought 5$ monthly pass

[silk blaze]

Can't have people getting the best biomechs or vehicles without buying👎

[chrome panther]

Still need a lot of luck. I had 300 golden steel, but still didnt get any gold eqipment

[pallid shadow]

They need the gold for listing because they need people to buy gold.

[craggy goblet]

Is there no limit to stopping alliance plunder

[onyx basalt]

yea for sure

[silk blaze]

The only remedy was to get to spend the gold elsewhere

[onyx basalt]

set a whale account to auto stop plunder

[craggy goblet]

is that a thing

[storm gazelle]

I mean a bot could do that in about 2 minutes of coding

the 500 gold thing seems almost manitory

[spring schooner]

12 attempt to log in I got in once

[storm gazelle]

I guess not trying to login solves that

[peak ridge]

immediately there is a bug..

I protect my comrade's from plunder, and now, the plunderer = ally.

[quick storm]

You get no reward for helping people defend raids? 😶‍🌫️

[onyx basalt]

Legally no

I won't snitch tho

[pallid shadow]

I already did

[flint topaz]

so the specialized attributes can not be changed, only increased in value up to their max 🙁

[pallid shadow]

It seems to be that way

[errant dust]

should be kept that way

[safe fjord]

Ridiculous addition, this game slowly becomes unplayable

[pallid shadow]

I don't know about slowly. They seem to be working at it pretty rapidly.

[dusty canopy]

Send rider

If anyone find new rider

[proper pebble]

you can actually plunder people from different region, with way lower might than yours.

click on the shelter and got the "hand" icon on the right.

good luck defending

[craggy goblet]

oh I thought its from building only

The plunder button in refinery mostly targets i can't hit

[errant dust]

like truck, can hunt people u want

[proper pebble]

I believe people will mark the alliance and hunt there every now and then

[pallid shadow]

You can go to region 645 and click on individual FTD shelters and there's a button to raid that person specifically if they are refining at that moment.

[proper pebble]

if dont have any strong player to help def, then gg

[craggy goblet]

I used all 5 already

I'll go tomorrow

[craggy goblet]

And on within 15m

[jolly cradle]

And would you look at that, just like usual AraY is right and @flat slate is wrong

[flint topaz]

they appear in the combat log

same happened to me with Daryl HP buff

[stable canopy]

Wait maybe he is buying for low while we are talking

[quick kernel]

so whats the gold you get back after you sell something? linked or not?

[median sinew]

Some mod please pin this 🥹

[quick kernel]

someone put a knife to your neck and forcing you to do all this?? This is primarily a GAME, you do whatever is fun for you

[stable canopy]

No... We are just afraid to quit because coming back is not possible for us...

[low nimbus]

I'd like to thank the whales for buying my garbage from the auction and giving me nearly 12k gold so far.

[onyx basalt]

what kind of prices have you been managing to sell at?

[stable canopy]

How much did you spend to create this garbage ?

[quick kernel]

anyone noticed the "training attempts: 2" attribute for each item? I think there is a limit how many times you can list an item for sale when it doesnt get bought

[low nimbus]

Mostly lower pricing, 200, 350, sold one for 1.5k

[low nimbus]

Yes, you can only list them so many times.

[low nimbus]

1k gold, I got lucky and got a few legendaries with good stats that people wanted.

[quick kernel]

someone can tell where do we get those crystals from? the ones we put for refining

[quick kernel]

so is the gold you get linked or not?

[low nimbus]

Green are dailies, blues you can buy for gems, purple is from the pack and sub.

[low nimbus]

Its linked.

Also you're buying these items for the specialized stats to increase your good legendary ones.

So these crack babies selling for 10k gold and garbage stats are just dumb lol

[granite egret]

🟠

[onyx basalt]

define good

[quick kernel]

if your squad lasts atleast 2 seconds in a whale fight, its good!

[low nimbus]

Basic attributes of say squad att and skill dmg red, plus 3 useful specialized attributes like dmg red, hp, def on the same legendary.

You then hunt the auction for a higher % specialized attribute to use as a component to smelt them higher.

[onyx basalt]

🤔

you take a specialized from one to put in another?

[low nimbus]

Only if they are the same

[flint topaz]

AFAIK you can only increase the existing specialized attribute, not change it

[onyx basalt]

so need 3 good specialized (any %) and 2 good basic?

[low nimbus]

So your legendary is, def, hp, att. You need a legendary with ONE of those attributes to increase your legendary ones.

[flint topaz]

so you will first need to craft this weapon getting lucky with 3 good specialized attributes

[low nimbus]

Yes, and you cannot change them. So you need to get lucky or have someone sell a good one in the auction.

You can only increase them.

[onyx basalt]

so the market's gonna be about legendaries with all good attributes, or 1 good and high % attribute

[flint topaz]

the high % attribute is less important because you can reuse any existing weapon to dismantle and level the weapon up

you just need the good attributes, then leveling up seems to be easier and free

[low nimbus]

So infantry squad att and infantry squad def is what your looking for in thr auction to buy. Then you use the one you bought in the auction to increase the % of one of those attributes

[onyx basalt]

can use 1% squad dmg to improve one that has 3% squad dmg already?

[onyx basalt]

improving cuz 4.6 is higher than 3.3 right?

[weary crest]

Cant even login

[low nimbus]

Smelting material % needs to be higher than the one you are wanting to smelt.

[low nimbus]

Yes

[flint topaz]

BRUH, after a certain % will be impossible to smelt

[low nimbus]

Bruh, they hit a max of 7%, 5.5% etc for certain ones.

Like honing attributes lol

So you either wait a looong time crafting them yourself or buy from the auction.

[spring schooner]

Your update has made it unplayable in cancelling all subscription

[low nimbus]

Hardest is getting a good legendary with good specialized stats to even start with.

[onyx basalt]

so need all attributes good, 1 specialized high value, or just dismantle 😂

[low nimbus]

Rest is either money (auction) or time sink in crafting and waiting

[low nimbus]

Yeah or if you have a good attribute you sell on the auction.

[past spire]

are these stats only for field or for rally and garrison as well?

[low nimbus]

And buy one you need.

[spring schooner]

What about the network kag

Kag

Lag

[flint topaz]

This one I got is somehow good for my garrison, too bad I got two gathering attributes 😭

[low nimbus]

Applies to whatever squad, I.e infantry, rider or ranged, whatever you have for those.

[onyx basalt]

need a whale to buy my overpriced 3.7% rider squad dmg red pls 🙏

[low nimbus]

So you would keep that, and hopefully get a vest with 2 other good ones and that purple attritube. So you can use that vest on the better one to increase the stats

[low nimbus]

Someone bought my infantry dmg red lol

[onyx basalt]

how much

[pallid shadow]

Did it have any other stats on it?

[gray cove]

How long did it take you to realize you can’t flip items for gold with the new refinery?

Here’s the deal: yeah, there’s a 3-day wait before you can resell, but the real joke is the gold you get when you do sell. It’s linked gold, not normal gold, so you can’t use it to buy anything new. It’s like selling something on eBay and getting a gift card that can’t buy a thing - useless for flipping.

So yeah… You can either sit on your items or spend real gold if you want more. Genius, right? Only IGG could make a ‘refinery’ that’s really just a clever way to keep you spending.

[low nimbus]

Garbage ones

But they probably used it to increase a good one?

[pallid shadow]

How much did they pay for it?

[low nimbus]

1.5k

[onyx basalt]

1.5k seems decently cheap tbh, I sold 3.1% infa def for 1k

[pallid shadow]

dang, that's 3 weeks of the weekly vehicle metal.

[spring schooner]

I went up against a whale, could not invite anyone because of network lag

I lost a lot of troops, check your logs, no more money from.e

[flint topaz]

did you open a ticket?

[spring schooner]

Ne

[onyx basalt]

damn how'd you lose troops in the refinery?

[flint topaz]

good, complain in discord always work

[spring schooner]

Ne

[spring schooner]

Ok I play this game because I'm in a hospital bed with cancer ffs

[flint topaz]

mmm sorry to hear that, and you are telling me that because?

[spring schooner]

I'm just saying this recent update is crap, thousands of us agree

[flint topaz]

🤣

[spring schooner]

Ok laughing in face.. excellent

Nice pr work

[thick prism]

Has anyone managed to put equipment on his car? It just doesn't work for me, I get the message "Deployed" when I try. Or is it that I am not understanding something?

[flint topaz]

recall the squads

[thick prism]

already tried

[flint topaz]

🙁

[spring schooner]

Its crap

I spend money on this game and it's turned into crao

Crap

I want a refund

[burnt mist]

Recall all the trucks that you have sent out

[chrome panther]

I saw red 9% inf def. That is max you can get. Its double the ammount of arnament reds.

[hollow knot]

Yes it says to all guns for cars equipped even that those are free in the bag and not on other squads

[onyx basalt]

hopefully don't regret this price soon

[pallid shadow]

I think the prices are going to drop WAY down when people see how common stuff actually is.

[craggy goblet]

my 700 didn't sell yet
How you get people to pay so much

[craggy goblet]

The decent gear will be common.
Whales will only buy ones with good affix after a while.
They already have filters setup for auction

I have some yellows but the affix are mostly useless

Oh nvm someone just bought it
No idea why, the affixs sucked

[pallid shadow]

This is what I'm counting on for today. I'm listing 1 gold thing with bad "hones" or affix or whatever. If it doesn't work, I lose a little bit of free gold.

If it does work, I can get the weekly vehicle metal thing

[craggy goblet]

Cheap enough i think someone will buy it.
Even gathering and squad load on affix doesn't stop them

[low nimbus]

No you cant? Its max 7% as you need something higher than 7% to smelt with

[pallid shadow]

Yeah, mine is blue rider attack, purple squad attack, and purple attack. If someone is bad at thinking, 500 gold will seem like a deal.

Well, 550 because of tax

[silk blaze]

So is precious ore buy only?

[onyx basalt]

it was a 3.7% rider squad dmg red, decent but other 2 specialized were fully trash

I'd just use it if didn't sell but would always be temporary

[craggy goblet]

Squad dmg red is pretty good.
Idk about that price though.

Not even half a day yet.
I assume once the crafting levels go up the amount of good gear will be higher

[onyx basalt]

it's good for now but for sure I wouldn't pay that for something I'll use now and discard soon

[silk blaze]

Can the attributes not change

[onyx basalt]

still a better deal for the buyer than whoever paid 1k for 3.1% infa def and 2 other trash specialized 😂

[craggy goblet]

No, I think you can upgrade them somewhere though

[onyx basalt]

from what ichigo was saying, can't change and can upgrade by smelting a weapon with the same attribute you want to upgrade, and higher value on that attribute

[silk blaze]

So the special attributes will be different for people having the same weapon

[onyx basalt]

yea

[craggy goblet]

So if I have 3 good affix of low rarity I can eventually upgrade all 3 with other gear?

[low nimbus]

Special attributes are random.

You ideally want 3 good ones

But 2/3 is decent as well.

[onyx basalt]

yes according to ichigo (I'm not whaley enough to try that yet 😂 )

my focus rn is making some gold lol

[low nimbus]

Yes

[craggy goblet]

Maybe in a few weeks I can try

[silk blaze]

The that would mean the attributes will be upgraded on what they are aswell. If it gathers would it will gather wood better - not become something else

[craggy goblet]

Did you see 30d cooldown to change your chosen gear type

So gotta do 1 type per month

[low nimbus]

Yes but it says for free, so maybe there's a way to pay?

[onyx basalt]

it's 3k gems

[low nimbus]

Yeah

I just looked

[craggy goblet]

It's a good bit of gems

[silk blaze]

But what's unlinked gold

Non-linked

[craggy goblet]

You buy that one.

It can be donated to alliance vault

[silk blaze]

Who buys? I have 500 gold and 700 linked gold i have never bought

[craggy goblet]

Alliance gold distribution is linked
I think auctions linked too

[thick prism]

Not just guns, it also does it with the vest

[hollow knot]

You need to recall all troops back to the shelter to be able to equip. Which is crazy

[silk blaze]

Linked to what

Can gold earned from selling at refinery auction be spent elsewhere in the game?

[onyx basalt]

can be spent anywhere except donating to alliance vault or buying at the refinery auction

[silk blaze]

Ok

Seems unneccesary with this linked-unlinked stuff

[onyx basalt]

it's to prevent people from farming gold with their farms

[chrome panther]

Maybe they got 9% red from default.

[dense crystal]

Aha wait you cant use linked gold to buy auction items?

[pallid shadow]

Nope. That's how they ensured this is definitely not heavily monetized. All gold used must be directly purchased from IGG

[dense crystal]

Ahahahahahah
RIP @flat slate

[onyx basalt]

it makes sense cuz otherwise you could just send gold from farms to main by selling trash at overpriced value

[silk blaze]

I have linked and regular gold but never bought🤔

[pallid shadow]

gold from the vault used to be regular gold until people started using the vault to sell for real money.

[onyx basalt]

gold given from alliance used to not be linked. it was changed due to some people farming gold with farms in other alliances

and selling for real money or bots

[craggy goblet]

oh so if I sell something I can't use that gold to buy a new equipment

[low nimbus]

I cant see how when the max it shows is 7%

[silk blaze]

Ok so that means if i don't buy gold i will never get to buy items in tje refinery

[low nimbus]

Nope, gotta use it else where

[chrome panther]

Red one? It was 9%

[pallid shadow]

No, but you sure can give IGG some cash to buy new equipment!

[silk blaze]

All squad equipment becomes buy only

[low nimbus]

7% is shown as the highest.

Oh orange one

[chrome panther]

Not sure how then, but i saw 9% inf def, red color.

[low nimbus]

Weird it doesn't show that listed

Brb gonna go look for it

[dense crystal]

I feel like there's other more creative ways for them to solve that problem 😅

[low nimbus]

Didn't they already? It says the items are randomized in auction?

[craggy goblet]

my infantry now have some gathering buff

[dense crystal]

And also, regardless, it's by default now a completely monetized feature, not just a "heavily" monetized one 😆😆

[dense crystal]

There you go

[craggy goblet]

The only 2 red affix i see in auction are gathering and squad load

[versed musk]

I've got some goodies on sale cheap

https://gyazo.com/906b207bac42456552112f6e52136148

has 2 spec attributes you can upgrade for rangers

[craggy goblet]

Only the blues good though

[versed musk]

only 1000 gold

[low nimbus]

I'm thinking you need glasses lol

Shows 7% max, orange attribute is 7%

[silk blaze]

Why didn't they make auctions in gems i stead of gold

[craggy goblet]

Because only paid gold can buy so it drives revenue

[pallid shadow]

Because they want to make money.

But remember, they said this is "not heavily monetized."

[silk blaze]

So non-paying buyers will never get to buy in the auctions

[onyx basalt]

buffs would be irrelevant if it was with gems

[silk blaze]

Just habe what they manage to forge themselves

[pallid shadow]

Correct. You must pay IGG your hard earned money to purchase anything in the "auction" house.

[craggy goblet]

Correct, you just sell to buy other packs

[versed musk]

I also have this gun with two special attributes that can be smelted and upgraded it's only 500 gold

https://gyazo.com/70136fe753a5dc0f20935df67002005a

[craggy goblet]

because f2p are just there to benefit whales anyway

[silk blaze]

Man this game is so trash. I remember Warhammer 40K Lost Crusade it looked like this. Only buy thing was 1 hero

Here everything is buy

[versed musk]

Anyway if anybody is interested they are steals, you can just search them up with filters, they are both for rangers

[pallid shadow]

gathering gun. 500 gold. Steals for whom, exactly?

[fair cipher]

But they don't give good stuff from forging equipment from alloys so most of people are getting garbage from that🤣

[craggy goblet]

Obviously you buy the pack then use that to make yellow equipment.
Then you sell that for gold

[versed musk]

I smelted my gun up from a common to a legendary look at it before and after...

https://gyazo.com/c9244392e80f7493050dfc2aafa6c8a2

[craggy goblet]

They go up in rarity?

[versed musk]

https://gyazo.com/cf661ccc5ff1a3c7e35be6e2ea10abc7

[fair cipher]

So, only smaller spenders are feeding the whales

[craggy goblet]

Why did you equip to rider thats for infantry

[craggy goblet]

[craggy goblet]

You know igg hates actual f2ps

[versed musk]

I got a gun with 6% def for 200 gold lol and smelted it up from 2.8%

You want to try and get a gun with 2 special attributes for your squad and smelt it up

I have 2 for sale atm going cheap for rangers

jump in and grab one if you are a ranger

I don't really need the gold that bad, but it's a good deal for someone. i run riders

[versed musk]

what are you talking about it has two special attributes for riders....

[craggy goblet]

Bad ones

[versed musk]

they are mixed

whats bad about def and attack lol

[craggy goblet]

Only the squad dmg red is useful

Low values

[versed musk]

4.5% lol thats high

anyway troll on brother

every single rider squad gets that buff, plus it has a 2.8% buff on rider att, it's really hard to get a gun with both att and def as one types special attribute

[fair cipher]

Are you selling it? I would keep it as it could be good for you.

[versed musk]

ofc I'm keeping it

[storm gazelle]

I got gold with basic squad attack ranged squad skill dmg and +6% ranged attk .... and 4.4% rider def and some gathering lol

luckily I am a ranged player lol

[tribal rose]

I got zombies equipment and gathering equipment

Luckily Infantry is more and more useless, i will finally be able to replace my cars and farm with Infantry with this

[storm gazelle]

😄 😄

I only have 150k cars left... I deleted the other 400k

[median sinew]

Same
Luckily, I got one decent (purple) mask, but that's it.
Trashed all the rest

[jaunty olive]

Guys am i right in understanding that you cant change whatever stats you initially roll, just enhance them?

[storm gazelle]

hmmm I will have to make guns for a month then switch to the mask then the other 2 and rotate

[storm gazelle]

so far yes

[polar spade]

whats that smelting material needed to smelt specialized attributes? How to get it?

[storm gazelle]

I think it is weapons with the same substats

from what I read

[jaunty olive]

So this piece with 2 infantry stats probably is worth a lot more than this piece, because you can find the legendary version of these infantry stats individually and enhance it with 2 infantry stats while the other one is stuck mixed

[tribal rose]

You can i think
But need same equipment

[jaunty olive]

That mechanism only allows you to enhance the same stat

[storm gazelle]

I think you have a max of blue still

[jaunty olive]

Not swap stats around

Like this

You can enhance your purple stat using a legendary stat

[storm gazelle]

indeed but I think blue substats have a max of the blue top level

?

or can they go into purple?

[tribal rose]

Why not enhance legendary stat using purple

[jaunty olive]

Because the thing you cant change is the number of stats on the gear

If something has 1 infantry stat and that one infantry stat is higher, the other two stats are useless and you cant change it

[tribal rose]

So armaments but you cant use honing chips

[jaunty olive]

So to enhance my infantry stat on a piece of gear I have to get the same weapon + the same stat for a random chance at enhancing it

[craggy goblet]

💀 didn't know you can go to shelter manually until too late

[tribal rose]

You haven't raided yet how is it late?

[storm gazelle]

don't you get the raid chance back if you fail?

lol

[craggy goblet]

Out of raids

[storm gazelle]

you didn't pick gold everytime before?

[tribal rose]

0/5 means out of raids?
Shouldn't it be 5/5?

[craggy goblet]

Wtf building uses 0/5 increasing.
And the raid area is 5/5 decreasing

[storm gazelle]

😄

[craggy goblet]

Depends what area you look

[tribal rose]

?

My brain aint braining

[craggy goblet]

Nvm I remember wrong

[craggy goblet]

I have 0 raid left so I can't raid slims nazi friend

Or panda with his triple yellows unclaimed

[tribal rose]

I raided 4 times all the golden alloys
Took me few hours lol

I don't think ill be doing this daily, too much time consuming

Maybe if i had 2 raiding slots, but with 1 its a pain

[soft barn]

I hate see something they deem "heavily monetised"

[chrome panther]

So basicly, main thing here is to buy same equipment and to smelt it.

[fair cipher]

Same equipment with atleast one attribute same

[craggy goblet]

Has to be same equipment or same affix?

[craggy goblet]

Oh both?

[chrome panther]

Has to same peace of equipment i think.

[storm gazelle]

same type like gun or vest or ?

[chrome panther]

Same as specific gun or soecific west.

[fair cipher]

Like same specialized attribute you wanna increase

[craggy goblet]

I guess same basic attributes same picture

[storm gazelle]

the very same type of gun O_O

[craggy goblet]

Idk, I have to wait a while for when I forge more

[chrome panther]

So we need same equipment and same attribute? Kinda to much.

[storm gazelle]

basic attibute you increase from breaking the trash up

[onyx basalt]

how to get to the page where you speedup friends' refinements?

[chrome panther]

It will be hard get gold equipment constantly. So buying will be no1 option for it.

[craggy goblet]

Different region seems you can view whenever.
My allaince I've only gotten there when defending

[fair cipher]

If it wasn't for this, auction house would lose its value but due to this need to be careful with buying and selling

[chrome panther]

In order to smelt some attribute, you need higher attribute of same kind, right? To smelt 2.7att, you need 2.8 att or higher?

[chrome panther]

Yeah, true.

[craggy goblet]

Yeah I think it just replaces with the higher one you're smelting

[chrome panther]

This will take ages. 3 troop type x 4 slots x ammount of golden equipment out.

[fair cipher]

This one is gated pretty hard

[chrome panther]

I think there is over 10 hones possibilities.

21 different attribute there.

[craggy goblet]

all the farming stuff and zombies just combined in other

[jaunty olive]

I have yet to see a piece of gear on the auction house with 3 stats that line up together- the holy grail since you can't change those stats

[zinc wolf]

So 2.7 goes up to 2.8 once you smelt it. Or it increases more in this case?

[chrome panther]

Dont know how much increase. Or not increase at all, just replace.

[craggy goblet]

Same, though I'm browsing by lowest price

[chrome panther]

Logicly, it will just replace it i guess.

Venom already have 4m might on it.

4.7m*. But we cant see what he have.

[craggy goblet]

[real tendon]

It's even worse. It ranges from lower to higher, so probability again

[jaunty olive]

Only 10k usd

[silk blaze]

I don't what to do guys should i buy a picture with 3 purple squares or car🤔

[jaunty olive]

So basically you need 2 things here.

1. You need a base of equipment that naturally comes with 3 usable stats as those cannot be changed.

2. Then you need a bunch of the exact same armament with high stats for each of your stats to tune them up.

This is a big whale trap but theoretically a lot of the stuff the whales need comes via luck so there should be opportunities for the average Joe to score big.

If you use the same weapon with a 6% attack stat as a material and your current weapon has a 2% attack stat, the stat improvement could be anywhere from 2.1% - 6% which means that the materials you use could be a total waste.

[silk blaze]

So you need the same item with ranger - squad damage - squad damage attributes to upgrade it?

[jaunty olive]

So lets say your gear piece is like this

2% ranged squad attack
2% ranged squad dmg
2% squad damage

this would be an ideal base right?

You then need to find the exact same item piece with a upgraded version of any of these 3 stats to use as material to upgrade it. So if you wanted to upgrade Ranged Squad damage you need an identical equipment piece with ranged squad damage buff higher than the piece you are upgrading.

Lets say your material piece has 4% ranged squad damage and you use it on your original piece...

You could get anything from 2.1 - 4% ranged squad damage on your original piece.

The most valuable pieces are anything with 3 stats that work together regardless of their current tier because while the color grade matters for equipment it doesnt matter for stats as far as I can tell

You can have a green infantry def% stat on a legendary piece and use a legendary stat to upgrade it, and it could potentially become legendary. But you probably want to take it piece by piece and use blue stats, purple stats etc so the gap it is bridging when you use the big legendary stat is lower

1% attack with a 6% attack material could become 1.1% attack, but if you buy a bunch of 3 4 5 % attack materials first then there is less chance if your legendary upgrade being a huge waste

[onyx basalt]

seems like it yea

[chrome panther]

Good thing IGG made effort to explain anything about new feature.

[pallid shadow]

Big effort

[chrome panther]

We here lab rats just finding our way from the maze.

Lab rats who pay btw to be in the maze.

[fair cipher]

I have ended up forging legendary equipments from the jobs I don't have proficiency in.

And actually got crap when forging for the proficiency one. Huge rng involved with this. Proficiency doesn't work as it states for me atleast. Legendary alloys gave common vests and elite alloy for non-proficiency gave legendary equipment with 6% ranged defence when I use ranged💀

[onyx basalt]

250 gold take it or leave it 😂

[fair cipher]

I would get it if I had a copy of similar equipment but not lucky with forging 🤣

[flat slate]

Thats not true what you talking about..its not linked gold when you sell

[pallid shadow]

It is though. I know you don't know this because you haven't sold anything.