📑┊v1-56-0-feedback

[wicked pilot]

Agreee

[vital sun]

I disagree with you statement about TC. If a whale already has all the hero unlocked, then if they kill then they going to be number 1. However with this change, whales can skip and pass it on to someone else.

The idea to opt out of TC reward ranking seems very cool idea. So whale can participate phase rewards and kills without worrying about owning useless fragments

[novel agate]

agree on that, putting kills in wars out of tc competition is a good thing. whales will have most heroes awaken, but still in wars be obligated to make most kills thus putting them in top rank of tc by not even participating only fighting. this way whales will like always collect all the heroes they want, but stay clear of heroes they finished making it possible for others to collect frags for them...

[compact inlet]

wishful thinking 😉

[peak lark]

It just also makes it difficult for resourceful f2p to get more points, as well as making it much harder to save materials for subsequent TCs while getting phase rewards for fighting.

[midnight pawn]

Yeah getting phase rewards is gone again for me

Actually need to save otherwise will always be below some random farmers

[mystic jackal]

1000% agree. Just give the option to decide for not participating in the kill points. It's such a simple idea even a 4 year old could come up with that

[celest wedge]

For the new update, the DMG skill optimisations for the same hero - what does that mean?

[lusty token]

Some heros have skills that do damage over time. They currently affect other heros that also do damage over time, and they will be separating them.

[celest wedge]

Thanks very much

[woven dawn]

Id love it if we could get repeats of older events, especially ones for HQ skins. It would allow newer players to grow in power and bring reasons for people to spend money on the game.

[quasi meteor]

If they repeat older shelter events. It means the people who already have them, wont have the need to spend for them.

They can just as well release something new that everyone will spend for.

At least I assume thats their thinking

[vapid cypress]

There's few repetitions comes on roulette: old Halloween skin and old santa skin, rare but it happens before

[vapid cypress]

It's been very long time they make old skin repeat so not sure they have plans for it again

[ocean mural]

would love the Haunted castle to return

[hazy juniper]

Как перевести Дискорд на русский?

[lime magnet]

Никак, есть русский канал #русский-russian-chat-room

[kindred hemlock]

So... How to build the Car Thing?

[lofty spear]

not yet

29th

[kindred hemlock]

Oh alright

Good Date, Most people have their paychecks then

[ocean mural]

anyone seen the privilege subscription trial thing?

[kindred hemlock]

30k Mai Event Points for shelter skin, how much Money is that

[lofty spear]

Yes

[ocean mural]

I thought they'd bring back endless fight from the Mai event :v

I have 2 armament puzzles that need just 1 more piece and my luck doesn't help me

[steel imp]

Anyone else keep getting these when they log in? I done that event when it first came out 😅

[lucid mountain]

it is a different connector

[lusty token]

It's a shame, still being stuck with a couple dozen of he other connectors in my inventory indefinitely.

[hidden vapor]

🇰🇷

[lofty spear]

"Use it to get more reward!" 😉

[lucid mountain]

KOF puzzles are such a scam, if you dont complete it at the end of the event you get nothing back

[steel imp]

Then they should do what they do with TC and give us the option of 2/3 to contest or spin for

[outer idol]

Ok

[empty reef]

hello guys

[glossy bolt]

no version 1.30 in app gallery

[mystic nest]

Hivemind rewards. Do you know if this is being worked on?

[ivory oxide]

add more puzzle like mini games that you can do over and over again.

[tawny badge]

I want

[onyx sable]

Hivemind rewards is missing in new update

[tawny badge]

I want gifts manager please 🙏

Like 5000 jewelry

[frank venture]

IR is the same as DS, we had 4 tier 6 in our legion and no other t6 in other legions , it was overwhelming for the legion and others

[fluid light]

Is autorally broken for anyone else ?

[topaz trout]

yes it is

[thorny night]

Some chat is gone or hide, no reward from hivemind, i got bug issues, please fixed it

[spice spade]

877

[main sparrow]

Water world

[gritty stream]

U should put back ir and ar along with TC..1st TC with AR and 2nd TC with IR..😒😒😒

[vast marlin]

Anybody with Login issues from Apple devices?

[fluid light]

I like this 😂

[ocean mural]

careful now, they might make map skins for extra moolahs . Different themes would be nice tho

[sharp yew]

Doomsday Atlantis!

[sharp glade]

No rewards for Hiveminds with new update 😭

[unkempt remnant]

Maker.....Gifts please 🙏🥺

[sharp glade]

Unable to receive hivemind rewards.. just realised after running close to 10 of those

[gritty stream]

Its easy, make it like the tc roulette then new skin + old skin..

[quasi meteor]

Yeah that would work

[quasi meteor]

Venice ?

[short saffron]

Не, в моём случае — это Орск. И Оренбург.

[bold pasture]

Why no rewards after complete the hiveminds😭

[long hull]

guys, are you seriously kidding me, there are no rewards for hives after the update?

[quasi meteor]

There is currently a problem with the mails, you are still getting rewards apparently, but the mails are not send.

[thorny night]

Some of friend chat is gone, hivemind no reward

[quiet tangle]

Cannot log in via Game Centre anymore since the update

I am logged in

In the Game Center but cannot log in into the game… marvellous

[merry rock]

Try to uninstall then never install the game again.

Hope it helps

[quiet tangle]

Done it, nothing helps

[lusty token]

What is Game Center?

[quiet tangle]

Game Center is on IOS devices, such as iPhone

[spring cedar]

@mehdi7190 @ika5769

[quiet tangle]

I don’t know my email and password to log in as always done it via Game Center…

[spring cedar]

Gift 🎁 please

[glacial mango]

Im using huawei mate and i cant find update game, so im still used old version

[rustic bridge]

My device keeps crashing out everytime I try to log in after updating

[mint quest]

WhatsApp dedin gukum

[stuck trench]

Your limited time gifts link locks up the game.

[tame estuary]

Total rally become sara's request event. And the rewards for kraken has changed become like Dr back alley. No teleporter. Only 3 items.

[lusty token]

Did they really take out the teleporters? Those were the only reason to do those krakens

[wary gust]

...

[real wolf]

..

[ocean mural]

yup

need my relosss

[lusty token]

I guess with AR and IR happening half as often, I don't need them as much but it's still nice to know I'm not going to run out.

[worthy raptor]

This update is not working on my Huawei mate 50 pro

[midnight pawn]

so removed the only thing that made that event worth anything lol

[kind socket]

I like the new profile screen ui👍

[lusty token]

It is a nice change.

[radiant marlin]

Ok

[mystic jackal]

It looks empty and dull. The theme would fit more to a mecha type game

[lusty token]

Well, between some of the squad skins and the new addition of vehiclearmaments, I can see this game progressing to mechazombiefighter

[mystic jackal]

Sadly yes

[obsidian root]

Аха

[sour shell]

@spring cedar @obsidian root

[viral pendant]

Hey

New here 🧐🧐

[mystic jackal]

Great a bunch of useless spammers

@vapid cypress purge this

[viral pendant]

Lol

[lilac lynx]

Like I say I am new here, sorry i didn't realize I was making a ridiculous post

[jaunty flare]

It’s ok, some people are thread police. You can post normal conversation here > #☕┊en-general-chat

[sleek grotto]

@jaunty flare wow

[jaunty flare]

?

[pure oxide]

Can someone confirm that this is intentional?

[lusty token]

I can't imagine they would accidentally make a new name for it if they didn't intend the changes.

[jaunty flare]

Think they meant total rally lol

[lusty token]

Yeah, it's still Total Rally in the event page but the mails say Sara's request

[jaunty flare]

I mean the prizes being like doc event

Kinda seems like they crisscrossed and now we know the Sara event will be like doctor event lol

[pure oxide]

Precisely, renaming half of the event mid-event feels already like something went wrong…

[winter pewter]

ا

[lusty token]

If you haven't noticed by now, they only change events mid way through them now.

[gritty stream]

kraken no more reloc as gift?

[lusty token]

Just the single one from the Total Rally rewards, it would seem.

[lean mirage]

1692334824

[stiff merlin]

🤣🤣

[atomic apex]

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[lusty token]

ok

[whole cosmos]

1867374696

[novel turret]

Hola

[supple nymph]

[gritty stream]

by the way, the pc version, cant type the troops number in barracks...please let us type to train...thanks

[clever granite]

What is this? Is this water world

[merry rock]

Its doomsday

[clever granite]

Did you watched video?

[lament sand]

Feedback: I passionately hate the new squad selection interface.

Why fix it if it's not broken?

[lusty token]

The only difference is the list of heros not showing on the left until you select the hero to replace, right?

[lament sand]

That, and squad selection is much tighter. Much harder to adjust on the fly, especially on a cell phone screen

[lusty token]

It feels like it's the same size to me

[lilac bramble]

The Limited Time Gifts page won't give me the rewards after viewing the page

[silent quiver]

Me too

[lofty spear]

You are currently in Dubai, thats why your map is flooded

[uncut lichen]

My ipad is three years old and the game becomes more and more unplayable. Lags, freezes, crashes.

[obtuse haven]

Just saw this, I wouldn't have taken part in the birthday celebrations if they were just going to add it to the fighters mall, would have saved money and spent on Mai's puzzles instead 😒

Give us the option to get specific fragments instead, do you know how much of a tease Mai is, used so many pieces but can't get her chest piece😒

[fickle mica]

Are you going to fix the bug that has crept in since the update that when the game kicks you out and you try and load it kicks you out two or three more times before it loads properly (on iPad) it was bad enough when it stops working and exits the game during the islands but now it does it at least three more times when you try and load up this is disastrous when on the islands.

[signal harbor]

Anyway to fix this? I can view event page as much as i want but it wont change anything and it seem like i have hidden red dot too

[lusty token]

Nope.

[uncut lichen]

The app is starting after four, five trys. Its crashing, freezing and lagging. The Ipad is getting hotter and hotter, even while antipede its freezing and crashing. This app needs far to much hardware ressources. Soon it will be unplayable. Do something, please.

[hybrid bone]

This update is a great solution in terms of killing the gaming expirence. …The game crashes right away when trying to load. After a couple more attempts, the game finally loads, but still keeps crashing from time to time. Clearing the cache? No changes. Restarting my iPad Pro? No changes.
By the way. The new squad selection is rubbish and slow compared to what it was before.

Best way of conduct? Please let me have the opportunity to go back to the previous version.

[main turtle]

Sound like to me the update was the worst one.. I’m scared to update the app 😂😂

[lusty token]

The buggage sounds worse if you don't.

[gritty stream]

Why the spam messages during buying packs are in alliance chat now? 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 i really hate this spam chats..

[lusty token]

May your shelter prosper!

[indigo lagoon]

He means burn

[obtuse haven]

😂 how many red packs is being bought there?

[ocean mural]

good thing the red packs in alliance is only from new players

would've lost it from with all those spam

[steel imp]

App keeps crashing upon launching and when it does open it won’t allow device log in 🙃

[gentle yacht]

Same here. No log in.

[ashen creek]

Feedback : Bring a Killing Event on Top Commander is boring without fighting on TC

[gritty stream]

Many and annoying..all those important chat in alliance were buried down..

[gritty stream]

I agree..

[plain peak]

Arena of Doom is broken! No players !

Lots of bugs in this update. Very disappointing.🙀

[peak lark]

No outside links

[upper raptor]

App keeps crashing upon login. Cannot enter the game. New update has bugs which needs to be addressed on priority

[graceful mural]

Any update on this? Have a few in my alliance that have the same problem…

[quiet tangle]

No, still cannot log in via Game Center… I have managed to log in via email / password but otherwise no progress, no solution…

[graceful mural]

I hope they resolve this. 1 had only linked account via Game Center…. May be gone for good

[quiet tangle]

You just have an email connected as well to Apple ID

You can try to log in to IGG passport (Google it) and try to reset a password with the email you think might be connected

This is what I have done

[frigid pivot]

Hello. Who can help me? After yesterday's update, I haven't been able to log into my account for two days, the support service is inactive! It's not possible to wait that long

[misty bison]

Same as by me

[uncut lichen]

Login Crashes since the update. Get that fixed!

[modest roost]

We just attacked a lookout station and there were dead, but no one went into the station and we were left with zero people. The defenders did not activate the station either. Normal?

[lusty token]

That looks like a pretty normal battle report of 215,000 people fighting 203,000 people, yes.

[modest roost]

I thought the dead were going to the station?

[zealous flame]

They only go to the station during war events

[modest roost]

Is it not triggered during normal times, thank you.

I was under the mistaken impression that I would always go into the first aid station.

[mystic jackal]

That's wrong. If your shelter is attacked and the hospital overflows it will go to aid station during non event times

Not if you attack normal structures though

[zealous flame]

So what I said wasn’t wrong, they were attacking a tower…

[mystic jackal]

I can see that. But he said "Is it not triggered during normal times, thank you". That's a false statement

Giving me the impression he did not fully grasp when it is

[modest roost]

I understand. So you are saying that those who overflow from the hospital beds will go, and those who are dead from the start will not enter.

Thank you😆

[mystic jackal]

I don't know if that is correct either. If your hospital overflows from field fighting during non event times, I am actually not sure. Could be that it does not go to aid station

[lofty spear]

I think they go in the station when your hospital is full during non-war events

[mystic jackal]

Congratulations on repeating what was said

[modest roost]

But I am sure I perceived it wrong. Thanks 🤣

[lofty spear]

Didnt even read what youve said tbf

[mystic jackal]

That's the best approach to community posts, great

[lofty spear]

I was still scrolling down

[night jungle]

During non war events they wont go to your aid station unless I believe you're getting zeroed and have deads

So your base would have to be under siege not you attacking it dosnt work the same outside pvp events

The hospital thing is probably wrong tbh, if you just got deads on the field then I don't believe they go to aid station these should only apply to deaths given the following circumstances atleast based off descriptions provided ^

[modest roost]

I'll study it again because you're mixing up the specifications for normal and event times 🙃

[haughty verge]

Aid station is meant to be for events only where % are returned. Non-war events do not have return rates I'd expect 0 to be in aid station

[peak lark]

This is what I was thinking

[jaunty flare]

There is no aid station in non war events time period

How is this even a conversation lol

[rare folio]

Great feedback smh

[peak lark]

Yeah I feel like I was gaslit by it 😆

[fickle mica]

Has the issues with IOS devices been fixed yet? Since the update it’s been made unplayable and with AR round the corner we will get killed if squads left in the field and we can’t access the game for five minutes

[quasi meteor]

Aid station works just fine for anything outside of events too

The difference is the aid station number of troops is not unlimited and the % of dead troops that go there is lower too

Combat deaths and hospital full deaths both go to Aid station outside of event

Events have unlimited aid station spots, there would be no reason for privilege to give you increased capacity if it wasn't outside of events

I went and fought outside of event and it filled my aid station

Should be easy to test again. Just talk to some alliance nearby and send a sqaud of cars at a tower while they defend

Same as to shelter. I will test it in a couple houes when I am home, unless someone wanna try now

[merry rock]

Pls increase hospital limit in next update im begging with the lowest i can in the floor

[quasi meteor]

I am absolutely for it. Increase limit and decrease heal cost, so that people can finally fight for more than 10mins in a 120h fighting event.

But also remove the ability to batch heal.

[lusty token]

No 😦

Batch healing is how I stay kind of alive

[quasi meteor]

To many players using healing macro that auto heals their hospital. Normal players cant compete with that

[quasi meteor]

That what reduced heal cost and increased capacity would do

[lusty token]

Not if it takes me 12 days to heal

[merry rock]

Most of my deaths comes from exploding hospitals especially during a chaotic fight 😢

No time to check from time to time and speed it all up when the serotonin is rushing

[quasi meteor]

Definitely difficult sometimes

I think the way batch healing is done currently is bad. Forcing players to click step by step to heal small amounts of troops or others use bots for it. It has to be changed.

Nobody has fun staying online and healing for hours personally...on a mobile game

[uneven parrot]

Hi

[devout mesa]

So true , they should add some kind of set up that you would choose a certain amount of troops and it stay saved. Then we would just have to click again when the batch is healed …. Also having a click button on the main screen that allows to heal even looking at the map not being stuck inside shelter

[vital sun]

Hey batch heal is a must how else we going to fight after 10 minutes

[vital sun]

Got better solution than batch heal?

[indigo lagoon]

To the depth of hell for you for even suggesting removing batch healing.

[peak lark]

Crazy, good to know 😆

[mystic jackal]

You're welcome

[wispy basin]

Please explain what is happening with Wilderness Challenge. Why can't we earn ammocoins since the last update?

[amber frost]

You mean wasteland challenge, right?
With the update they only changed the one with the arrows (great hunter). Now you get less coins, but you can win TC heroes, like it was before wasteland challenge.

[vapid cypress]

Agreed.

[vapid cypress]

No batch heals= IR and AR is over in day 1

If they want to remove bots that's fine but removing batch heal? Yeah many will quit. Not everyone is a whale like you, their definition of f2p is very different than those who have maxed armaments

[peak lark]

Yeah I see both sides of this. The actual act of batch healing is miserably tedious "gameplay". But the cost in time and rss is so egregious, there would be even less fighting and even less fun if the ability to do it was removed.
If they made fighting and healing a fraction of the cost it would encourage people to actually play the game. And we wouldn't need as heavy reliance on batch healing.
So for me, no reason to eliminate it- just eliminate the reasons why it's necessary. Everyone wins

[merry rock]

I just want them to increase hospital limit

rolling in the floor begging

[vapid cypress]

Reduced heal cost and hospital limit! hear these devs

[lofty spear]

"We hear you loud and clear, so we decided to increase refine levels to 20, to help commanders reduce their heal cost"

[vapid cypress]

A whopping extra -1% heal cost! Total steal

[fathom plaza]

Top commandant are really bad nothing intéressant change it

[small onyx]

what happened to doomsday? i

i cant enter

[stuck sun]

🔥

[quasi meteor]

I am talking about batch healing the way it is now and I am not a whale by far...

Nobody likes staying up spending their time in the hospital screen and spamming it...

Read what I write...

I specifically said it all has to be adjusted

[merry rock]

Yeah i think aserias meant not the batch healing on where u need to have 30spam of helps just to heal

[quasi meteor]

If the only argument for a bad mechanic is that you need it to play a bad event. Thats not good.

Thats why healing itself needs to be changed and adjusted.

Reduce cost, change times and do it in a different less tedious way

Because the way healing is right now.
You fight 10mins and fill your hospital full in a 120h event just to spend the next hours batch healing manually to fight another 10 minutes again, just to realize you are out of rss because of its high cost.

Thats not something anyone wants to have.

[compact inlet]

yes healing mechanic is the worst part of the game currently

[midnight pawn]

Removing batch healing is a good way to make sure f2p and low spend finally stop playing for good lol

Not everyone is swimming in speedups

[lusty token]

I am swimming in speedups... because of batch healing.

By swimming, I mean I have about 10 days, or one fight worth.

[quasi meteor]

Why do people read the batch heal part and not the rest of what was said.

Should deserve a perma ban

🤣

Ofc the healing itself needs to change

[midnight pawn]

I read the rest of what you said and it's not doable

[quasi meteor]

Ofc its doable

It just needs to be changed

[midnight pawn]

If they make healing cheap enough for f2p and low spend to be able to fight without batch healing then even small whales can easily perma fight all event

And they lose a ton of revenue from big whales fighting and buying speedup/rss

[quasi meteor]

No not just cheaper. I am talking about reworking how you heal, so you dont sit on hospital screen pressing 10h through batch healing to fill hospital in 10mins again

[midnight pawn]

So it will just end up being yet another update that removes low spenders ability to play

[quasi meteor]

You clearly didnt read what I said.

Nobody wants to sit hours on heal screen for 10 mins of combat gameplay

The way you heal needs to be changed.

Either make it more automatic for everyone

Or change it. There are countless of ways to do it for the benefit of everyone

Incorporate the aid event in a different version and use that as the new way to heal.

For example

[midnight pawn]

That's all true but again they won't make anything that reduces whale spending

[quasi meteor]

Thats probably right, but that doesn't mean we cant dream

🥺

[midnight pawn]

What I can see happening is removing batch healing and introduce new pack with a temporary heal speed buff for event, like the heal cost reduction one

[quasi meteor]

Nah, even they wouldnt do that

[midnight pawn]

Then good luck playing without buying speedups

[quasi meteor]

That would be a big shoot in the leg

Aid event is also no money gain for them, but when enough people complained they added it.

Its the same with other stuff. They will do f2p friendly stuff if enough noise is made

[final sleet]

Is this the best place to give feedback on new PC version of the game?

[lusty token]

It's the closest. It is the feedback channel from the last patch technically, but they never made a new one for the latest patch.

[final sleet]

Well the PC version is a memory/resource hog compared to the Steam version, by more than double!

For such a small game, it shouldn't be consuming that much

[peak lark]

I think making fighting cheaper could actually increase spending.
If people are more likely to fight because it's not as costly, more people will participate, more people will actually have more fun not being so afraid to step outside. More people will play and not just watch for the perfect moment to go fight 1 time.

Right now it feels kind of like there's no reason to get stronger. I'm actually dreading unlocking t6 because I'm fairly certain I just won't be able to sustain the time and rss needed to heal them.

[final sleet]

Actually by making fighting "expensive", it makes people spend more if they actually want to make a difference

Also if they made it cheaper, than it would be too easy to regenerate armies, wars would last forever

[peak lark]

At this point any f2p or low spender is sitting out 99% of the "war" anyways.
You get like 5m of fighting then 1d of healing, even in higher Gs.
I'm gonna pull a shady here and say most players don't spend a bunch just to keep being lunch for bigger players. And most whales don't fight other whales if they can avoid it, until you get in like g3+, which is a very small number of groups. And even then over half the players aren't pouring money into constant fighting

Having a 7d event where you can actually fight for about 15 minutes total is exceptionally unbalanced.
I'm not saying make healing free. Just less egregious

[final sleet]

Exactly... that's the whole point, not to cause senseless wars, cause they're expensive!

[peak lark]

But it's... a war game

[final sleet]

otherwise you'd have a constantly WW3 state

It's not called RTW (real time war) it's called RTS (real time strategy)

[merry rock]

Did u made that up

[peak lark]

Well it'd be great if they added more strategy, but currently this is not an RTS lol

[final sleet]

actually no, RTW is a real type of game

Rome: Total War is an example of one

[final sleet]

By having to be careful... because the slightest mistake can be extremely expensive, that is strategy

[peak lark]

If you have a 7d pvp event, and you can fight 15 minutes of it then spend the rest healing troops, that is not even politics simulator. The strategy aspect in this game is fairly 1 dimensional thanks to being p2w

[final sleet]

I just had a war, 30mins of war cost me over 2 weeks of speedups

did I buy speedups? No I did not... cause I stockpile, and do not spend my items willy nilly

[zealous flame]

Sounds like a waste to me

[peak lark]

Or you just buy. Strategy is eliminated as soon as you can p2w. Then it's just about money.
If you want more food for the whales, make it easier to have fights. More fun

[zealous flame]

If you just spent 2 weeks of healing outside of a war event I’d say you do use your items Willy nilly

[final sleet]

The game is about money...

[peak lark]

Yes, like 95% of us are playing this way. It's not strategy, it's a basic premise of the game..

[merry rock]

Wait whos willy

[final sleet]

That's how RTS eco-system works

play virtually any other RTS, it's the same

they do events to make you spend your items... so that when a war does breakout, you have no choice but to spend or not participate

[peak lark]

Let me load up wc3 real quick and see if I can just buy my troops back instantly for $10

[final sleet]

Secret to the game is patience... do not spend your items... stockpile, cause you never know when you got an emergency

[merry rock]

Who does that

U must have all the time in the world. Just play for fun

[final sleet]

I do, and any person with basic strategy does

[peak lark]

Yes we do this. This is not innovative.
My whole point is this is boring.
You have constant events, and no one does anything because it's too expensive.
You can scale it all lol.

[final sleet]

I got 3 accounts... play them all daily

I ranked Top 20 in top commander events all the time without spending

[merry rock]

There is no emergency if a war event is going on. Its the emergency itself

[peak lark]

I've won a top commander without spending.

[final sleet]

Cause you saved up? good job 😄

[zealous flame]

Your region cannot be a big spending region if you do this all the time

[merry rock]

HAAHAHA

Oi aricei dont delete that

[final sleet]

So change regions if you cannot compete in that region

That's what LOT of people do

[merry rock]

Hoarding for too long isnt fun! Slows your growth so bad.

[zealous flame]

I’m not complaining. I’m just explaining to you how it is, your barely saving anything if you are always coming top 20

[final sleet]

Slow and steady wins the race... whats the rush for growth?

[peak lark]

Guy we were not looking for basic wisdom.
It's feedback on the state of healing in the game.
We get how it works currently.
All I was saying is you can scale all the costs back, and get more participation.

[merry rock]

What race? Dont tell me u see this game as real life investment coz im dead lol

[final sleet]

They do not want more people participating in wars, cause then wars would be too frequent, and the game wouldn't be fun

[peak lark]

Everyone is losing interest in the events. The last like 5 AR/IR nobody does anything, tired of the cost of pvp

[merry rock]

Can the guy send his ootd pic again i havent seen it crearly

[final sleet]

You think it's fun to fight a war all day, go to bed wake up to nothing?

[peak lark]

And yet they held weekly war events, now every 2 weeks..

[merry rock]

Its fun if you dont take it personally

[lusty token]

What do you mean? The fighting is the part where it actually feels like playing a game.

[final sleet]

What war events?

[zealous flame]

This isn’t exactly true, we have fought hard in every IR and AR 😅

[final sleet]

You mean like Pompeii and stuff?

[peak lark]

Wait. Is this shady?

[merry rock]

Exactly. People seeing this game as real ahh invesment and forgetting the main purpose of the game 🤣

[peak lark]

I mean we fill our hospitals, but like half of every legion is asleep, the field is just the same handful of whales every time

[zealous flame]

It has to be lol.

[merry rock]

Oi do events, have fun, we will all gonna quit one day

[lusty token]

Hasn't yet declared that "Everybody does X"

[final sleet]

P2P games you need to be wise, don't complain that you need to spend money... it's designed that way, company needs to make money to pay their large development teams

[peak lark]

Only I've done that, what's happening to me 🥲

[merry rock]

I think it is slim lol

[final sleet]

Stratef

[zealous flame]

It’s 100% Slim

[lusty token]

Nah, he just said that companies need to make money. That's not slim.

[merry rock]

Dam boi i mssed u

[peak lark]

Literally wasn't complaining that.
Was saying if you make it easier to participate, there's a good chance more people participate. Which encourages spending. If you never fight, you never see you need to improve, you never have incentive to buy anything

[final sleet]

RTS - is strategy, if you do not want to spend, that's up to you... but know people WILL SPEND, and they will always outperform you. You cannot expect to play a game at zero cost without being super super super conservative

[peak lark]

Who expects this 😭

[final sleet]

No, cause then you just let the people that do not spend participate... and then people who are spending need to waste money more because of that

[peak lark]

And you didn't even know AR and IR exist or what??

[final sleet]

so you end up losing your biggest spenders

[peak lark]

They already are because those players have no food anymore. Most are tired of being food.

You go out to try and play the game, get 20d hospital in 1m because they're all faster than you and wipe you.
You just don't go out anymore. That's the only adjustment to be made reliably

Big player wanna kill stuff, give them more stuff to kill

[merry rock]

Guys my feedback might cant be read

[final sleet]

That's strategy and that's up to you... again if the entire region was constantly at war it would be no fun... no breaks, no sleep

[merry rock]

#increasehospitalimit

[peak lark]

Not the region dude, the dedicated pvp events.

[zealous flame]

No one is talking about regions being at war

[final sleet]

The fact that wars are expensive, people think twice... and they do not last long either

[zealous flame]

You are clearly a brand new player

[final sleet]

dedicated events are designed to make you spend your items, so when you're at war you got to spend

[peak lark]

Respectfully I think you are new to the game and lacking some perspective to what we are talking about

[merry rock]

Its slim come on

[lusty token]

I wish fighting would last longer

I get all excited for AR and then it's often like, 2 small fights and everybody is done.

[merry rock]

What g are u lol

[final sleet]

you do realize they track EVERY SINGLE CLICK... if you run of out something, and check out a pack, and do not buy... they know. They establish a conversion rate based on the costs, based on the events, based on dozens of KPIs

[peak lark]

It's LITERALLY 5 minutes after days of waiting.
If you happen to not be online at that time, no fun for you for entire 7d event

[lusty token]

I've been from 16 to 150 but usually in the 40-50 range

[final sleet]

They have had years to measure, and perfect the conversion rate based on how people convert

I do marketing for Fortune 500 companies, some of them gaming companies... all this data is used my friend

[merry rock]

I knew it, its slim

[zealous flame]

Unfortunately I can’t relate, I will try to watch some lower Gs this time. But my experience is fighting 24/7

[final sleet]

I hate fighting if it lasted hours...

[lusty token]

You don't have to participate the whole time.

[merry rock]

Yes just be a leech

[peak lark]

You could decrease costs by 50% and proportionality would dictate fights last maybe 20 minutes tops, not hours

[final sleet]

I got stuff to do, I got eat, sleep, spend time with friends and family... I feel sorry for you if all you can do is play this game

[merry rock]

Oi u just said u have three accounts that u plays daily

[final sleet]

Really, well I've had wars that last over 12 hours, I had to deprive myself of sleep to see it through... it was not fun

[merry rock]

Theres no way u can win all those three accs in top commandr without spending because i know that phone is overheating from constantly hoarding shyt

[final sleet]

If you do not have a 2nd account, you're already playing the game wrong 😄

[merry rock]

Dont gaslight us.

[peak lark]

I had a region war that lasted a week a long time ago, but the actual fighting was again, patchy. Mostly just not farming and jumping on to repel a siege for half an hour if I was available, then going about our business for another day

[final sleet]

Phone? what phone? I play via Steam... and now new PC version

[merry rock]

[final sleet]

Phone is just mobile, to be able to monitor when not in front of computer

[merry rock]

Do u think im ur wife to know dat

[zealous flame]

Sounds like all you can do is play this game. Using a PC and Mobile?

[final sleet]

Well strategy you're not utlizing options you have... who the hell stares at a tiny screen for hours... your poor eyes...

Bet you wear glasses 😄

[zealous flame]

Like approximately 64% of the world do?

[peak lark]

It's actually shady 2.0
Thanks for the discussion 🙏

[final sleet]

Why is eyesight getting worse and worse for everyone do you imagine? 😄

[midnight pawn]

No way that many need glasses

[final sleet]

It's actually 27.8% according to WHO data

[midnight pawn]

Sounds more reasonable

[merry rock]

Shady did u changed name because everyone is picking on u whenever u talk before

[mystic jackal]

It should be an alliance technology that does what the bots do but in stages.
3 nodes á 5 level. Each give 33%.
Once the alliance has it all researched (Can be a hard achievement), you can heal a total of 2500 batch and it will be healed isntantly. That way you still end up clicking a good amount (800 000 / 2500 = 320 times) to heal, but you aren't stuck in the screen for 50 hours.
Each % of the research amounts to 1/3 of what a "help click" does now. In the end, it would be an even playingfield with equal opportunities again
Furthermore, the healing should not be in the hospital screen, but on the world map, like one of you guys suggested before.

@peak lark @vapid cypress There is your solution
Get the devs to do it and everyone will be happy

[final sleet]

Lesson of today... they will not consider/listen to any comments on "what to charge for stuff" they have BIG DATA that monitors, and A/B tests it for them... they know the perfect ratio, and will keep it that way... so your suggestions go to deaf eyes

[merry rock]

Increase hospital limit

[zealous flame]

If it is him it’s a new account. @indigo parcel is Slim’s main

[merry rock]

Im dead 😂

[zealous flame]

On the off chance it isn’t him hopefully that gets them together

[final sleet]

"Furthermore, the healing should not be in the hospital screen, but on the world map, like one of you guys suggested before."
Yes, this is extremely annoying having to go into the shelter during wars - going back and forth, it's extremely frustating

[peak lark]

So? Lol

We've been here over a year and not all of us are naive.
We know how it works. Why stop providing feedback though?
Thanks for explaining it though

[final sleet]

Cause your feedback is pointless and not relevant

[merry rock]

I wont stop providing feedback unless they increase hospital limit

[final sleet]

Upgrade hospital to increase limit

[merry rock]

Okay IGG

[mystic jackal]

That's stupid if you think that

[merry rock]

Dam thats smart

[peak lark]

I feel like this would be a very massive advantage for max tech alliances though.
It is a cool idea though, and they definitely could make more use of alliance skills. Something like this would be good for sure

[merry rock]

I wish i knew that before

[peak lark]

So?
So is your negativity, but here we are

[mystic jackal]

Now the advantage is for those alliances that use bots. Wouldn't you rather like an advantage that is accessible to everyone? All alliance technologies are an advantage to maxed out alliances vs. new ones

[merry rock]

I love those heal bots.

[mystic jackal]

In the end of the day, the way it is now, everyone will end up using the bots sooner or later. So either embrace it or restrict and enforce it the hard way. There is no third option

[peak lark]

Definitely, but you could argue a very active alliance can achieve what the bots can.
We've come close- not max instant heals, but more like 20, and max over a 30m period

[mystic jackal]

And I feel like embracing it would be the way to good, because the healing needs to be dealt with in those events that take 1 week

[peak lark]

Not this big though is all

[mystic jackal]

Yes, but again, in the end everyone will use bots or won't and be on a disadvantage. Beeing active is not rewarded

Making this a game feature would just solve many problems at once imo. 1) Things to work for 2) Healing problem 3) Time problem 4) Bot problem (unequal opportunity)

I'm open for better suggestions. This is the best I could think of

So far I see very little solutions in any discourse about it. People always keep sh outing "This sucks" and that's it

[lusty token]

The thing about bots for healing is you're sacrificing matching might for convenience.

[peak lark]

I think it's a good one in the current environment for sure.
I'd rather see the whole healing mechanic reworked, as Aserias said its mind numbing currently.

[mystic jackal]

How so?

[peak lark]

You use micro.accounts like less than 1m

[lusty token]

Can they even get high enough to be on the island?

[mystic jackal]

I'm waiting for Aserias suggestion. He hasn't given me one yet. I can't see a total rework that is good either

[peak lark]

Something like making the aid boxes more constant- like make the crisis aid boxes drop for participating in fighting and missions, then be able to use them whenever you want?

[lusty token]

Mid-event crisis aid

[peak lark]

The more you engage in the event the more boxes you have the more you can heal the more you can participate

[mystic jackal]

And remove the other healing?

My first thought is that it will disadvantage the whales to a huge degree. Everything that is not beneficial for whales I can never see happening because the devs are greedy and profit driven goblins

[peak lark]

Yeah, like keep the old system for during non event periods, because it doesn't really matter.
During pvp events have the aid boxes be the way you heal or something.
They could sell the boxes in packs too to make it profitable

The key though is you should get a steady flow as long as you're participating.
A whale who just wants to sign in for 5m and wipe the field for their points wouldn't get very many but could buy them then

[mystic jackal]

Whales would need other people to spend their healing on. You end up having a bunch of slaves whos entire existence amounts to healing the whales. On the contraty they can't gain much aids when fighting vs other whales

[lusty token]

What if they add in a button where you could instantly heal all your troops for 10 dollars?

[peak lark]

I think would need to swap the boxes to healing your own troops maybe yeah, and allow you to heal others or something?

[mystic jackal]

That would be better for starters yes

So how much healing packs do you get and how do you get them?

[peak lark]

Because an alliance skill too is going to have a long cooldown and charge time, so it really only helps once during an event. The system then remains the same otherwise. I'm not sure it does enough to make the process more engaging

[mystic jackal]

And how much does one pack heal

[peak lark]

Yeah they'd have better data on the numbers, but they could use the current crisis aid UI I think, and base it off that with limited extra work

[mystic jackal]

No it's a passiv thing. If you have the first node on 5/5 you have a 33% efficiency on a 2500 batch standardized after current healing clicks

[peak lark]

The key concept for me is that you can earn as many as you need by just participating

[mystic jackal]

For 2500 you need roughly 30 help clicks. So with just 1 5/5 node you could heal batches of 900 right away. It would work just like the bots, you get a few clicks within 1 second and done

[peak lark]

Ohhhhhhhhh I see
Kind of like medical sharing tech then?

But more around the help contribution and less around the speed itself ?

[mystic jackal]

If you have all 3 nodes 5/5 you are at 100% of what the bots can do right now, which is around 2500 batch heal

[mystic jackal]

I don't understand

[peak lark]

That's kind of cool then yeah
Because it just replaces the tedium of batch healing without eliminating the need to use speeds to clear troops fast in fights

[mystic jackal]

It would just sit there 5/5. One completed 5/5 node is 33% of the amount of your 2500 batch with 30 bots right now

It's just the first numbers I can think of that make sense ( can be adjusted)

[mystic jackal]

Yes

[peak lark]

Yeah I think I understand now, it's a really cool idea

[mystic jackal]

It just replaces the "illegal bots" that some use and gives everyone the same chance. Of course more advanced technologies have a better healing efficiency, but I think that's okay. They have more fighting % too, that's natural

And it gets rid of the 50 hours in the hospital screen. I mean in my calculation you would still need to do it 320 times for a full hospital. That will probably take 10-30 minutes, depending on how engaged you are with it

But 30 minute healing for a full hospital sounds like a good trade off to me

[marble pine]

Hi

[mystic jackal]

And to make it not infinitely (Because there should still be a limit on fighting capacity, probably also because they want to earn money from selling ressources) they reduce the healing cost by max. half of what it is now

[marble pine]

[peak lark]

Yeah this is my main feedback, like without putting any effort in, just making some slight incremental drops to healing cost and time, see what happens. Make a big deal of announcing it "hey healing is cheaper and faster! Get out there and fight" just to get people out of the mentality that you can't risk anything at all just to play a game

[mystic jackal]

Sounds good to me too

[lusty token]

The last update did actually make healing cheaper and faster.

Not really, by the way, but if we start pretending it might pretend into reality.

[peak lark]

Wouldn't even know since no pvp this week 🥲

[lusty token]

There can be pvp if you want there to be

[stuck pine]

is soo bad there is no pvp points in top commander, i hope the devs let us enjoy the game

[lusty token]

You can still enjoy the game. Everybody just gets fewer TC points for this specific TC. They've already said, I believe, they are going to integrate IR in to future TCs. Or I'm fabricating memories.

[amber frost]

On a positive note: people are buying more packs of arrows again, which for me means more lucky envelopes and large shopping boxes.

[tulip prism]

I never know wether to listen to you or not 🙊

[lusty token]

Dude, me too

I swear I remember some mail or something mentioning linking TC and IR again but all that mail is long gone for me.

[late umbra]

hey, total commander left pvp points, but total score not reduced

[gritty stream]

What is happening with the Gem Mall? When i clicked on it, it wont open..

[gritty stream]

They wont let u enjoy the game..they will let u spend more money in this game..they always change something that no need to be changed, but still dont want to change something that many have asked to change..

[surreal hornet]

Mağazaya giremiyorum…artık yeter..sürekli hata yapıyorsunuz….

Yeter artık!!!!!!

[lusty token]

Yeah, I was kind of hoping they would reduce the reward points to reflect the change.

[late umbra]

what we should to do with out pvp part? killing zombie?

[lusty token]

I guess hope you have speedups and farm

[lofty spear]

Uninstall

[unique birch]

This should be fixed now, please try again

[gritty stream]

Yes, its fixed..thanks

[indigo elbow]

👋

[amber frost]

Reducing the free pioneer hammers out of nowhere from 15 to 10, that's reduction of 33.33%.
Uninstalling the game is becoming more and more attractive

Or was it 10 all the time?

[indigo parcel]

Nah just my views and opinions are universally sound, I speak for the common man, the average player is way more likely to share my viewpoints as would a f2p player than someone who is 50M in might and played for months already in a strong alliance their perspective is completely skewed

[lofty spear]

?

Always has been 10

Are we talking about the same game?

[amber frost]

Okay, I mixed something up, nevertheless I will uninstall the game

[lofty spear]

Good choice

[haughty verge]

Always been 10

You might be thinking of the other chest event , the name escapes me

[haughty verge]

Your views are universally sound based on what? You always talk smack and think you know better than much more experienced players who's responses are much more accurate

[amber frost]

That's possible, did not see pioneer event for more than 30 days as I joined a new region without armament

[haughty verge]

Quite honestly not a bad time to leave the game with vehicles being added, it just added even more divide between spenders and f2P/low spenders. Any respectable developer would introduce something new and then reduce the difficulty of obtaining items from previous additions (in our case parts and armaments) to balance out the playing field instead IGG add new items and do not change anything

IGG doesn't give a flying f about its community, its blatantly obvious, if they did they'd have made some changes to basic things such as healing or troop training (amongst 100 other things) which would actually work in their favour if players feel they get value for spending. Keeping all players happy and heard outweighs whales any day, but they are just blind to greed

[late umbra]

i need airplane for transporting resources, probabbly to other region

[midnight pawn]

It was 15 in the first iteration, you're right. But it used a different currency instead of hammers. In the second iteration of the event there was an option to swap the 30 of the other currency to 30 hammers if you didn't spend them

[lilac saddle]

Maybe bloody brandy?

[jaunty flare]

It was 15 a while back, maybe a few months ago they lowered it to 10

The other 5 hammers you could earn was for resource collection

[hollow merlin]

Hi

[ionic plank]

I am pretty sure it keeps less than 1% happy. I know of several whales who have quit due to the devs making the game more expensive to compete. So already big players are leaving cause IGG keeps taking without giving back.

[haughty verge]

Yeah 100% agree, unfortunately too many are still spending ridiculous amounts of money so IGG just sits and laughs all the way to the bank instead of making positive change

[merry rock]

Why cant you just let us choose the pieces in the last day of KOF instead of giving us useless pieces in every invitation 😤

[rare folio]

because 💸money💸

[west canyon]

And that's coming from a rather large whale.

[ionic plank]

Trust me. I am not even close to a whale if you compare to the top 100 players in the game.

[west canyon]

True. But you made an impression on my shelter a while back in ds hahaha

[fathom plaza]

The game lose this charm...only cash money in all event. Puff no pleasure

[amber frost]

There should be at least a chance for universal / joker puzzles you can put where you want. I hate this too, grabbing the money from non rich people

[merry rock]

It’s annoying considering kof is about to end 😭 literally one pc left to get the 80 relics and 2pcs left to get the fan armament but i keep getting useless puzzles

[lusty token]

Trade more currency

[hollow dagger]

Ciao a tutti

Buona domenica pomeriggio

😉

Buon gioco bello si

[peak lark]

Ciao, #italiano-italian-chat-room si voglio

My Italian sucks sorry 🤣

[storm meadow]

Good

[cursive sapphire]

Hi

[sharp glade]

Is this a joke?! What’s this garbage IGG added to this game?!

[marble sapphire]

holy!! this shiet is disgusting. mafakas added Hot Wheels into the game.

Not only it looks like dogshiet and doesnt fit the game thematic at all, but it's just another new system where to spend money, just when you thought you done maxing somewhere else :))

[rapid marsh]

Why are mobiles only advantageous to riders? Atleast give players a choice. I don't like riders and this new update focused on riders. Ehhhhhh?????

[peak lark]

I actually really like the new vehicle system- putting aesthetics aside, I like the customization and the process of unlocking the parts.
I do wish there had been more thought put in. It feels like your choices aren't really choices when selecting parts.
And devices being heavily paywalled is disappointing even if expected.
What I really dislike though is the new stats. It seems a bit like lethality and block but much stronger. It sounds very broken. Stacking this being paywalled is a huge problem. It's going to be worse than the gulf between good armament t6 and bad armament t6. With the 2 combined I just don't see how most players are supposed to grow or even play the game. I'm nervous about these new stats.

[haughty verge]

Yeah tier 3 devices are way OP, IGG needs to get their sh1t together and bridge the gap between spending and low/non spending. Many of us are still a long time away from getting decent armaments because it's basically locked behind a pay wall not to mention igg nerfed the return rate for armaments and tracking plus roulette.

It is getting to a point you just give up because it no longer becomes fun when you get smashed to bits from spenders

[fervent forge]

No entiendo

[gloomy elm]

kinda the new event isnt working right, you dont get anything from attacking zombies gathering or anything for the vehicles upgrades, and daaamn another money grinder update, kof update was seriously a sacam u could waste $100 and don even complete 50% of the event puzzles

[lucid mountain]

best part is all incomplete puzzles are forfeited tomorrow

[gritty stream]

Does anyone else having the same issue when we wanna open the chat from someone, the game kick us out and need to force-close the game to open the chat?

[quasi meteor]

They are so strong because they already start at a high base level, upgrading them is way more expensive too.
When you upgrade T1 or T2 you can also reach pretty high with stats, but yes there will be a difference

[amber frost]

Where is the "no car in deployed squads as default" option?

[peak lark]

Am I understanding correctly too that it seems you can change tier 1 into 2 once you have the blueprints? It says something about getting 100% of the dismantle materials back

[quasi meteor]

Yeah you can just refund all for T1 and use for t2

I tried it myself it seems to be 100%

Not sure if there are penalties in higher areas

[fresh burrow]

This car thing makes the game look naff! Thinking of quitting really…

[lusty token]

I don't see any option to recycle devices

[quasi meteor]

Click on an device and top left there is an icon

[lusty token]

Must be only for the paid ones or something

[quasi meteor]

Probably only there once you have T2 device, otherwise you cant refund anyway.

You can only refund if you have a higher tier of that device

[lusty token]

Nah, it doesn't show for my t2 either

[quasi meteor]

I only have t2

[lusty token]

Or wait, maybe I don't. Goofy system. I have a level 2 t1

[quasi meteor]

You sure you didnt miss it ? 👀

Ahh

Yeah

So you can freely put everything into T1 and level up and whenever you get the next one. You can refund T1 free of charge

No RNG like with armaments at least

[midnight pawn]

Thanks for the info🫡

[novel tundra]

Good afternoon. Please tell me what kind of car I should develop if I am a “free to play” player on rifle squads?
The game doesn't give you a choice. Instead of making cars that can be equipped with any parts for any style of play, the game makes shooters pay, and gives the rest worse characteristics. This is a very bad balance.

[narrow stirrup]

atleast add button to hide the car

[lusty token]

Put the hero in the car.

[compact inlet]

yes my car has lower level bits attached so not to nerf my ranged units....

[primal thistle]

Hola

[narrow stirrup]

dont use wild rhino ram & 2-layer-off-road tire

[compact inlet]

indeed...

[peak lark]

The important thing is to use the fanciest paint job you can get to boost your might

[indigo parcel]

can u answer a couple of q for m e

so i am trying to build or create a car part and it says something about proficency what does this mean

[peak lark]

The level at the top right- you boost it by unlocking components and devices/leveling them up

Basically anything you unlock in there gives you proficiency xp

[indigo parcel]

why is it called profeicnecy why not call it cusomization level 5 required

[peak lark]

Even the skins for gems

Who knows, why did they call the machinery devices so now there are 2 things called devices?
Where do we go when we die?

[indigo parcel]

what does the below phrases mean to progress your CUSTOMIZATIOn/PROFICENCY levels you need to do the following 2 things correct me if i am wrong

Upgrade devices and unlock components? so what is a device on a car

how do you upgrade a device on a car, and how do you unlock a componnent on a car?

[lusty token]

Honestly, if you just click on all the things you can click on, you'll get there.

[high quiver]

Device is a thing ... It does stuff

[lusty token]

That's what they should add in. "Stuff."

[peak lark]

By leveling up that xp bar. Click on it and it shows you what all the levels unlock.
Click on a car component and see what level you need to unlock it.

[indigo parcel]

do we keep our DLS seasonal coins on sesaon transfeR?

[peak lark]

The devices are the true power point. Just flat addition of really broken combat stats. And heavily paywalled

[peak lark]

Word is we keep them. Let's move additional questions to #☕┊en-general-chat or the respective channel 🙏

[lusty token]

Quite forward pay to win. Good to see they aren't pretending any more.

[peak lark]

One hopes they make them at least vaguely available to grind for low spenders f2p, but at this point would it matter even?

[lusty token]

Well, armaments are slowly obtainable by f2p. That keeps me playing.

[indigo parcel]

where are you seeing what you actually get from a vechile? What power do you say vechile brins

[peak lark]

I reeeeeally dislike things that can ONLY be purchased. That's what truly starts to throw a game irrecoverably out of balance.
The system should make grinding them so tedious that it encourages people to spend money. Not make them ONLY available for money

[indigo parcel]

you say vechles are OP but what do they actually do it doesnt show the stats it adds anywhere

[peak lark]

#🚙┊vehicle-system

[tulip prism]

🤣🤣 I liked how they called the new gold coins for upgrading the vehicles "higher carbon steel". So we have carbon steel and higher carbon steal also. This is going to get confusing 🤣

[frigid agate]

Vehicles are op , and getting t3 device for cars is 4 times more expensive than squad skin like dragon

[lusty token]

Yep

[frigid agate]

They have changed the game dynamics , now whales would be even far from reach

[lusty token]

It was going to happen one day

[frigid agate]

It has always been happening

Now they've just widened the gap exponentially

The stats from lvl3 device for cars with few upgrades > difference between t5 and t6

DEVS atleast make the UI look good, it is really pathetic on field with car. Looks like a force pieced solution. Looks like you rushed with a new money grabbing even after KOF MIA which was also expensive but atleast did not create as much gap with whales.

[rare folio]

Make it so the cars while outside look the same as you tuned them in your garage.

Something doesnt feel right about having a for example black car, black rims, big spoiler and when you actually get to "use" it outside of your garage it just looks bone stock with the default blue paint job on....

[peak lark]

Remember when they did the release a few days ago they were hyping up the fact it's not just for stats it's to customize your experience! 😆

[rare folio]

Yeah right 😂

[jaunty flare]

I like that we all had connectors in our bag for months and now they finally bring the event back but it uses rapid connectors lol

[peak lark]

So exactly what was adjusted with matchmaking?

[tawdry basin]

Can we go back like 9 months? Before migration?

[unique elbow]

[ocean mural]

need my gems from 9 months ago too, my gem usage sucked

[vital void]

Don't know I'm back in the top bracket.... With a smaller alliance lmao...

[haughty verge]

They just got a group of monkeys to smash on a keyboard and then said good job, gave them a banana and implemented the matching changes

[main turtle]

Yeah when it cost 1 order every 5m might 😂😂 Everyone has it good now

[quasi meteor]

My opinion.
Let Immigration be free, BUT!
Make it happen in certain intervals, like every 6 Months everyone can switch region for free over a small invading event.

It will make it more important where you stay and less volatile.

[tawdry basin]

Small window like 1 week….

[peak lark]

Yeah I agree with this. Trapping people who genuinely need to move to enjoy the game isn't great either. Pre immigration my first account was trapped in a dead region with bad politics. I almost quit the game, and abandoned it there because I could never farm the egregious amount of tickets needed to escape.
Started a whole other account in new region instead.
The convenience is nice, but it is being severely abused just for the really tryhard jumpers to ruin countless new regions and pvp matches for very personal gain.
As Tink said, it is destroying the need for community in the game, and there's less and less reason to build and maintain an actual team.

[timber monolith]

I G G, for the love of god, since you removed the kill event entirely from TC can we please move Pompeii back to the weekend?

[merry rock]

Increase hospital limit!!

[vital void]

So IGG doesn't double point DLS on raid, we have less raid but same reward after the reduced reward ... ? IGG still scking hard

[lusty token]

In their defense, they probably just didn't bother to think about it and it wasn't intentional.

[peak lark]

Or maybe the whole cycle of weekly then dropping frequency was part of the master plan from the start

[pastel cargo]

When defeated in battle make the hero's go back to the shelter through car. Running beside the car seems really funny and illogical because both go back at same speed😅

[serene helm]

Can Pompeii go back to weekends? It sucks having it on weekday.

[quasi meteor]

Hmm. Maybe they see it that way that you have half the events meaning you have half the moments you need to use rss, so getting half the rewards would make sense.

[lusty token]

I think if there were a master plan, the cars thing wouldn't feel like a 1995 Hotwheels free-CD-in-the-mail game with a price thrown in.

[peak lark]

I meant strictly with the pvp cycle and rewards, but yes 😆 otherwise agree

[fallen perch]

[hollow thunder]

ARC is not good, one legion without alot of t-6, always gets bullied into their safety zone, then humiliated, for the whole event, thanks I.g.g.

[quasi meteor]

Which G are you and what alliance. I want to see for myself ☺️

[quasi meteor]

Thanks for the healing event! Its a win for sure

[halcyon rapids]

In what universe is pairing alliance with one barely 100M player against a 260M guy fair? 🤨

And you said you made matchmaking better in update 😅🙃

[lusty token]

Use the first day to figure out the 260m player's sleep schedule.

[peak lark]

Our luck they seem to be offline for about 2h during the time our strong people are online

[compact inlet]

We worked out that ours doesn;t sleep ¬_¬

[ashen creek]

Bring Back a Killing Event on Top Commander.....

[halcyon rapids]

Either he doesn't sleep or they share account because he's there all day and all night 😅

[strong mural]

If i get something on the workshop on lv 2, is it worth to recycle the previous lv to get the parts back or do i lose the stats also?

[quasi meteor]

You can recycle previous tiers with 100% return

Also you have to choose which one is active, so having multiple tiers is useless

[strong mural]

But i also lose the stats from the previous level, correct?

[quasi meteor]

Yes

[kind pier]

I swear every time the players ask for something u do it in the worst way possible so no one dares ask for anything else, we asked for less restriction on immigration we got the worst immigration rules ever, we asked for better matching in ds and ir back we got back to back ir ar, we asked for the end of back go back events u removed kill event 😂😂, it's crazy

[strong mural]

Maybe stop asking for stuff 🤣 🤣

[quasi meteor]

Ohh you want half hospital size ? I got your back

[kind pier]

I figured 🤣

I was gonna make a joke but I'm honestly afraid of giving them ideas 🤣

[strong mural]

https://tenor.com/view/c-cauet-sur-nrj-abort-mission-stouf-stop-arrete-gif-16749506

[quasi meteor]

My opinion they should make a small feedback event where everyone can give honest good opinions about what they want to change or have new.

Then moderators look through the stuff and make a list out of the most common wanted.

Then they release the list and everyone can do vote up or down depending on if they like it or not.

Then before they make changes they send a vote to see if the playerbase even wants it.

[strong mural]

And then do the exact opposite from what the players voted. Sounds about right

[quasi meteor]

They spend time on bad ideas, release it and everyone hates it and then change it back. Making all the time wasted

[quasi meteor]

Shhh

[kind pier]

Yeah, there is a ton of ways to make things better but as i said I'm too afraid now🤣

WTH was that 🤣

Pompeii with deaths awaiting👀🤣

[strong mural]

Bro is gonna get banned for using emojis 🤣 🤣

[kind pier]

Fight the power 💪👊

[quasi meteor]

I played a similiar game to doomsday a long time ago on the browser where when enemy attacks your shelter, they actually destroy your buildings setting you back months. 👀

If you get completely zeroed your village is destroyed and you start again

[unique birch]

Don't say that in here

[kind pier]

I played one like that too, browser based, called travian or something else idk

[unique birch]

New update coming Monday...send your personal thanks to aserias

[kind pier]

It's the only thing they read from this feedback channels, oh they want more realistic than 2 days to train 2k troops, OK they got it 🤣

[quasi meteor]

About to get employee of the year award 😏

[strong mural]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-gif-23517929

[unique birch]

[merry rock]

we appreciate reducing cost of healing.. but pls increase hospital limit.. things gets out of hand during chaotic fight and there is no more time to check hospital every second huhu

[lusty token]

I ran out of all my reduced cost 😦

I do agree with the hospital limit increase though. It's not really fun to have to keep an eye on during fights.

[merry rock]

the deaths are piling up because of it lol

[zealous flame]

Just recruit more troops instead of healing

[lofty spear]

Bruh how much longer do we have to wait for Towers to have troop restrictions?

Im so sick of seeing people send riders and ranged on a tower that has Thunder and Eddie

[merry rock]

Sometimes, they just send everything that they have

[jaunty flare]

Can’t the tower leader send squads back?

[lofty spear]

Idk can they?

[jaunty flare]

I think so. Maybe I’m wrong idk lol

[lofty spear]

They aren't doing it

[jaunty flare]

You like how crimson dirty snuck into our ally? lol

[lofty spear]

I had to go dm few guys maybe try talking to then and one said im toxic

[sharp niche]

redor

[jaunty flare]

Common sense is dead bro

[lofty spear]

There were also some who would rally with like Bella Lee

I thought i was in g30 or something for a second

[jaunty flare]

Hopefully your leaders are making a list. I’d be kicking those people lol

[desert wolf]

[jaunty flare]

Will help with your might too 🙂

[lofty spear]

Its not in iLaw but in other alliances

[jaunty flare]

Oh, ok then lol

[main turtle]

Is it true they go off matching for AR and IR by your Pompeii rating?

[lusty token]

That wouldn't make any sense at all so it is a possibility.

[main turtle]

Because register at 5b in Pompeii and that was our might in AR

[tulip prism]

In ar the garrison leader can return squads. After 15 rallies and 60 70 squads inside. Do you want to go through it all...we need the restrictions. It works better in ir if your alliance listens to you.

[peak lark]

Yes

[peak lark]

We had the fabled thunder julia garrison yesterday. My first time ever seeing that creative combination.
I saw some jin peter rallies, and a jacob tower rally.

[jaunty flare]

Thunder Julia does some work

[peak lark]

Julia almost solely buffs ranged. Thunder only infantry.
In a garrison even with louis, you usually still want at least mostly infantry, and some ranged if you can afford to add some damage in exchange for survivability (or activate all Victor's skills if he's leading).
You lose almost all of Julia's survivability boosts on any troops except ranged.
Just do what sky said before and go julia louis or jacob louis ranged garrison then at that point..

[jaunty flare]

Idk about all that, I’m just saying I’ve seen the combo work better than would be expected

[vital sun]

How do you check our pompeii might

[ionic plank]

The cars thing is the final nail in the coffin. People are sick of iggs greed. I have been inundated with messages from long time friends n teammates who are ready to quit the game cause they are sick of iggs never ending quest of generating more revenue without caring a rats a$$ about the doomsday community. This is a classic case of killing the hen laying a golden goose. This update is definitely gonna be the end of the journey for many long term and loyal players.

[vital sun]

So true

Power lock behind paywall

T3 ... No one going to get that beside whales

So stupid

[ionic plank]

What makes you feel they care bout the playerbase. All their decisions are based on how do they make people spend more rather than what can make the game better or what will make long term players stay n coontinue playing

[jolly barn]

I heard yes as theyre all connected with the season shop rewards.

[lucid mountain]

bring back pvp for TC bring back the original phase 6 and 7 before DS event

[quasi meteor]

Because they added aid crisis, ressource tycoon, heal event etc. All stuff that reduces spending.

Ofc they want to make as most money as possible, but I wouldnt say that all their decisions are based on that.

Not always, but once enough people complained they tried to change it in a way. ( not always in a way we wanted )

Us more engaged playeds who join discord, we think that everyone is complaining and wonder why nothing changes, but everyone who joins a discord and consumes extra content towards their game is a hardcore player and thats not the majority.

I really believe that while we think more and more people leave, it is actually still growing in total.
We complain about all the milking events, but yet all here who spend still continue to spend whales or dolphins.

So we complain about things but we dont change anything, so they dont change it either.

But I believe most of the casuals are coming on farming chatting and they dont care much about p2w because everyone is stronger than them by age in the first place.

So if they look at their numbers and they see their money and players grow even with the complains here. Why would they change it.

It is the same as with everything in life. If people actually did something like stopping to spend, all the changes would have happened over a weekend, but they never do.

[lusty token]

A thing to remember too, Discord was essentially made to complain about things, so there will always be a disproportionate number of complaints (though many still valid).

[peak lark]

I still think retention will be more problematic in the current environment.
You still have people downloading it expecting to shoot zombies on a bridge all day..
I've no doubt they continue to make great money though. I agree with most of what you said

[peak lark]

I'd bet most players are too oblivious to know there's even anything to complain about.
Just look at our slim making big changes

[quasi meteor]

Yeah definitely agree.
I do believe the game can do exponentially better.
Zombies are one of the most known things and people are interested in it, but currently every zombie content is just farming and not engaging and the adventure mode is over so early ( even tho there is an indicator that it should go to stage 100).

It needs more pve content. Like events where you have special zombie bosses on the region map like before

Its also really doable to add a tower defense mode. Where you have zombies invading your shelter and you can build and play different modes etc.

The game takes a bad turn like the walking dead did.

People start watching playing because of zombies and then zombies become just an accessory over time and it only focuses on people pvp

Lethal Outbreak is a simple cash grab. It could be the Zombie invasion on a region where zones are attacked etc. ( currently only z3 matters and the rest is unimportant )

Grand revival could be an amazing rebuild event with more rss and other things, like a reward for succeeding lethal outbreak

They do all those stuff and qualify of life and their playerbase will double and their income gonna be way higher too

Now that we have cars. Give us an actual car racing mode.

So many options and possibilities

The game heavily focuses on pvp like mentioned before and that is inheritly unfair, making the average player feel out of place in matchmakings etc. On top the pve content is nearly non existent. So everyone who gets bad matchmaking has nothing else to do

[undone pond]

Pa invite guys bagu lang Po laro

@quasi meteor

[quasi meteor]

How can I help you ?

[devout mesa]

That’s understandable but they could do it so the old spenders don’t loose too much … twice they killed spenders once with parts vs arms now cars vs arms … who gonna keep paying for honing chip when you got random results based on luck when you can buy stuff for cars with guarantee to build up the way you want and so cheap buff compare to arms , that’s so unfair.. most spenders I know have spends on arms waiting to have 5 stars then willing to hone for nice attributes now what ? Threw dozens of thousands dollars to the bin and go for cars 😭 terrible. So yes they improve the way of playing the game adding many many improvements as we ask them to do but they messed up with the spenders gamer very bad …

I hope they will change the way honing work so it can be more fair ( money wise ) or they will certainly loose a bunch of spenders and that gonna be way more than first wave parts spenders …

[lusty token]

People buy the honing chips? I always thought that was a terrible value

[devout mesa]

Horribly expensive, but sometimes there is a nice promo like there is at the moment 136 pink chip for a 100$ . That’s the only way to hone as far as I know

[lusty token]

You can get honing chips for free. That's another way.

[quasi meteor]

I think power creep is probably never stopping. The next power is always better and cheaper, otherwise a whale who starts later would never be able to slightly catch up. I mean lets say you spam 10k and play 1 year. The new whale needs to spend 50k to catch up to you. If the new power thing wasnt better and cheaper. It would rise exponentially making it almost impossible for whales to catch up.

At least thats what I think is part of the reasoning

Yeah armaments being random is a huge money sink.

[spare warren]

I have a question about AR so you take top 5 alliances but is it fair to work to be in 4th to make it to AR and have alliances below you adding people just for AR and then they leave after AR. there should be a rule that you have to be in an alliance a certain amount of time to be able to join. It's kinda disappointing to thinking you are going and a day before the other alliance adds 3 members just for AR then their might drops right after? so the alliance fighting to be top 5 gets screwed. It's not right

[quasi meteor]

I agree with you. It removes alliance identity and loyalty and makes people jump around purely for their personal gain. Making one alliance too strong and their original alliance the members that are left behind lose.

Most alliance have lower strength players who support their team with rss and tower filling, stacking deaths while the whale leader sends one sqaud to lead that tower or rally and doesnt lose as much. Those players are left behind when their bigger members leave and join another alliance for easier win.

#MakeaDoomsDayGreatAgain

[peak lark]

Yes, this shuffling behavior I think it also the main reason why so many matchups are so bad too.

[peak lark]

Really agree with this. I'm not sure how any game grows and evolves and encourages people to engage with the new content if there isn't an element of power creep. Any game with any rpg element has this.
The difference with a p2w is you spent thousands that end up "wasted", the rest of us just "wasted" our time and effort.

[night jungle]

If you only got free honing chips nobody would have 6.6m heros or 6.8m heros from having full red hones.. takes alot of chips and alot of luck

[merry rock]

another day of suggesting.. increase hospital limit

[lofty spear]

Hospital limit doesn't really matter if they reduce the healing speed

[lusty token]

They could do both

[ashen creek]

Bring killing Event again On TC

[digital aspen]

They call it Farmer TC now

[peak lark]

TF

[devout mesa]

Am pretty sure there is an algorithm for spenders as my main account as 7 red attributes for thousands of $ spend on chip when my free to play account have already 3 red attributes coming from barely a 100 chip that I grind for free … in other word I don’t believe spenders can hone nicely without spending a lot 🤓

[lusty token]

Neat idea having the "Vehicle Maintenance" rally things to get car bits. Terrible idea to have it stop giving car bits after the first couple.

Could have brought people together while they heal, but I don't think a lot of people want to trade 150 stamina for 10k wood and 5 gems.

[lofty spear]

I was about to spend all my stamina that i have saved for last 6 months on those
But then i realized that the rewards caps at 10

Would be too op if there wasn't a cap

[lusty token]

Would it though?

It's available to everybody

[lofty spear]

Its free way to rise up your atk and def

[lusty token]

So it wouldn't cost enough, is what it is.

[lofty spear]

If you had someone who would spend millions of stamina on those and get unlimited high carbon he could rise his atk deff by good chunk

[lusty token]

So it's preferrable to keep the free players in check.

[west canyon]

Yes farm commander is killing me. It's supposed to be a fighting game. Bring back the kill points please.

[quasi meteor]

Total Revamp of TC, please.

No more boring saving for weeks.

[jaunty flare]

The cap on morbius zombies should be 20-30 not 10. It’s a rally zombie and you need 10 just for your own

[lusty token]

And the rewards aren't even enough to really level up anything on the car

[jaunty flare]

I mean, the cars should be maxed out until they drop more stuff by now

The workshop tho, 10 rounds give enough to level up a couple levels

[lusty token]

Maxed out how without spending money?

[jaunty flare]

The cars?

[lusty token]

Yeah

[jaunty flare]

Yea should be done easily. My farm has the buggy and the truck maxed out on what could be upgraded

The workshop is another thing though

[lusty token]

Oh, yeah. That's what I'm thinking of.

[jaunty flare]

I was getting worried haha

[lusty token]

I forgot the car car parts actually costed anything

[indigo lagoon]

Just bring tc kill points back but anyone with the heros awakened aren't able to rank

[lusty token]

If they bring back TC kill points, they need to shift it to line up with raids.

Kind of a clueless move to cut out the TC raids and not the off time raids and as a "fix" just remove kills from TC

[lofty spear]

I feel like Challenge phase should be on first 2 days

With kill points as well

And should be on last 2 days of Island

[lusty token]

I feel like all the phases should just be combined.

But maybe do just troop speedup or troop training, and increase the points for whichever remains

[peak lark]

The only thing with this is it messes up the flow of the phases.
I like that you get your tech, training, equipment, heroes, etc out of the way, then time to fight and test out all the improvements.
They could just shift island, compress it to 2 or 3d event anyways, then make the kill phase and troop phases overlap with that.
I don't think they care about efficiency for players though, they just want people to have a difficult choice and need to buy stuff if they want to participate in it all.

[lofty spear]

Or they could make reverse AR where everyone spawns in the middle of lvl 8 during challenge phase when AR starts

[lusty token]

And they have to run away from each other

[peak lark]

what else is new tbh 🤣

[lusty token]

Well, this time it's by design

[compact inlet]

2 minutes in only the mega whale is alive

[indigo parcel]

thats why p2w games the only true loser is the whale that pays because everytime they BUY power they are sure to have a depreciating value on that power due to new introductions

No one in their right mind should be spending $ and not feel like a fool for it

[peak lark]

that's a bit too haughty an opinion for me. People are always free to, and this game is designed with that being the main mechanic

[indigo parcel]

but everyone agreed that because of NEW power creep introductions every dollar $ spent the previous week is worth a little less

so anyone spending $ is doing so knowing they are essentially losing it makes sense?

the true winners are the people benefiting from all the new features and not spending $

[lusty token]

What new features?

[peak lark]

this is always true whether you're spending money or time and effort.
You are spending those things to get the edge early, to have superiority even if fleeting.

[indigo parcel]

The superiority isn't worth it if you know inside your $ is being replaced with something even better next week.. no one wants or likes sinking money..also superiority goes down when you recognize the free to play players have access to same things as you do just at a lesser rate, it doesn't make sense to use real $ just for a temporary boost in the moment which you will lose as time goes forward.. the true winner is a f2p player who is also playing the game daily and doing events and having FUN as you are Ari for example or as Panda is WHILE also pocketing their $ and not spending it so they have fun in the game and $ in their pocket and feel like winners

There is little argument to be had from any spender $ that feels good doing it, most of them quit and regret it later.. same can't be said for f2p players none ever regretted NOT spending

[peak lark]

you spend enough and you're always on top. again, by design

[inner rain]

#matchmaking should be made based on spending, not might

a 50 people alliance of t6 is stronger than a 150 alliance of 30m might players...

[peak lark]

no way, this would severely penalize new spenders...
They just need to actually make even matchups.
Like what you just described is literally a might issue not a spending issue

[inner rain]

not really, 300m can be made out of 30 people with 10m or 3 with 100m

it's not a "might" as a total sum, but how that "might" is created

[peak lark]

exactly...
It's the individual might, or might distribution. Not the total might.

They need more sophisticated matching if they want to make it fair. Don't match 10 T6 vs a team with 1 T6. Like you say

[inner rain]

Yes exactly. I doubt they will do that though. They want to appeal to whales...

d\

[indigo parcel]

No where has that been proven tho, its just something people say

i havent seen evidence of whale preference.. in fact the game made it easier to get healed in AR lately with 80% healing reduction + the game has TYCOON event that used to be only shown once every few months now it is regular with TC

[peak lark]

it's literally all around us every update, you won't see it if you're not out there in pvp events for over a year

[peak lark]

to make more whale food

[indigo parcel]

the devs also added a quicker and cheaper way to get strong through CARS which doesnt cost thousands like arnaments did, just for 10$ you can unlock T2 devices in a car that is significantly stronger than T1 and most arnmanets

[inner rain]

Still, level 3 device that increases 8.5% stats, costs 300 dollars or smth. A whale will buy it. The gap between f2p and spenders is widening even more

[peak lark]

dude T1 armaments are going to be blown out of the water by T3. And paying for them is still very expensive.. and still.. well paying for them

[indigo parcel]

level 3 is what truly seperates the affordability, level 2 can be afforded but level 3 $300 id be happier with the $300 like mr burns said

$1 for eternal happiness.. id be happier with the 1 dollar

I would question the motivation and money management of anyoen who thinks spending $300 on the cars thing is a smart idea

gaining temperary benefit over someone in a mobile game for a short time (one that you didnt actually earn through skill but through $) IS NOT rewarding

[inner rain]

well your comments make no sense to be honest. We are talking "Whale preference" The game is becoming more and more money grabbing. F2P have some chance to get carbon/armaments as well, but spenders will buy that anyway. So it widens the gap even more

[indigo parcel]

the brain knows you havent earned it fairly so the benefit you get the dopamine kick from having that dominance is deminished similar to how trust fund kids have a lot of cofidence issues and other issues because they were given money they didnt earn it so no one of them feel good about spending money

[inner rain]

Put a coma, or full stop lol

[night jungle]

Not really lol people spend money because they can not because they think this games going to give them real life value or something, I spend my money on the game because I know it'll make me stronger period 🤣

Anyone who spends knows what they're doing lol

[indigo parcel]

Making you stronger for a temporary moment it is not worth doing so knowing next weeks benefit will outshine yours

[night jungle]

Lol yeah and no people who spent 50k on parts are able to spend 5k on a new feature easily

Then they're double on top

Easy

🤣

Just buy it all you get stats from everything and stay on top and make the gap between yourself and normal players bigger

[zealous flame]

I don’t think he understands that you are not temporarily stronger. If someone spends money and you don’t they are permanently stronger than you

[night jungle]

No its not? T2 workshop isn't outclassed any legendary armaments

Some people have armaments stacking like 30% in stats probably more for mega whales

What're you lying to yourself about brotha

[night jungle]

Yep

I mean yeah diminished value can be stated since parts are overpriced compared to T3 workshop sht but you always have those stats

Slim never knows anything he talks about

Dude just says stuff and hopes it's true

I've never seen someone wrong so many times so confident with what he says

[zealous flame]

The only time this isn’t true is for the people that invested in equipment before Armaments came out, people that invested in armaments instead of equipment became stronger.

This is not the same with vehicles because currently they aren’t anywhere near as strong as armaments

And Vehicles are relatively cheap in comparison, so everyone that spends is spending on them

[night jungle]

For sure

The stats for T3 are no joke costs a few 100 per one although T2 will help your not out doing armaments with them rofl

Your still at like 1/3rd strength of someone with T3 workshop

I already saw someone with 16% stats on one T3 workshop and like 400-500 firepower or something

💀

[zealous flame]

I think SafeMe is level 10 if I remember correctly

[night jungle]

Gyat already

I imagine that's max

[inner rain]

Guys, a question on stat %. Are all stats calculated additively ? Like +2 atk from armaments +5% from equipment etc ?

any page explaining the mechanics on that

[night jungle]

Yeah well as long as you have armaments equip of course lol

[night jungle]

385$ per T3 if you max the weekly packs

[inner rain]

Ah ok, it was a rough calculation. I only got t2 and the nice car lol

[night jungle]

I don't have T2 yet but I'll prob end up getting them if I can't get T3 its the next best thing lol

[inner rain]

the difference is vast

[inner rain]

+16% wtf

[stone frigate]

Hi

[peak lark]

Yeah you can check on the buffs tab of your hq, it will give you the breakdown of what % comes from where adding to the total.
This is also part of why 2% attack is not nearly as strong as lethality or firepower which are entirely unique stats

[jolly barn]

Bring back ds or a kill event for tc. So boring and farmers getting hero frags that fighters need 😒

[peak lark]

Please no DS ill be happy if that is dead forever, but yes please Kill event in TC.
I thought during IR was such an improvement, and working it into more phases was really nice.

[lusty token]

Don't worry, the farmers can't outfarm the spenders' spending still.

[jolly barn]

Im a fighter so gave up saving for tc coz I'd easily smash it with fighting points. Farmers are taking frags I need to skill up so I best be seeing thunder and eddies in all farm nodes next week 🤣

[lusty token]

We still have the usual top players generally, they just buy their points in earlier phases instead.

[jolly barn]

Ds was quick easy 2 days hardcore killing with minimal loses on a weekend when everyone's most active.

[lusty token]

DS was 2 days of teleporting around to unsuspecting people and 15-30 minutes of a fight.

[jolly barn]

Tc was 1 event that never needed to spend in, I'm not starting now, I'd rather invest elsewhere.

[lusty token]

I definitely agree it needs to be part of an event with killing and have kill points.

[elder sphinx]

👍

[peak lark]

Maybe the first 2 DS, then everyone realized what it was- whale feast on the small, impossible to even match make. Everyone sat in zone 2, super annoying to shuffle antipedes and use 4 ports every time.
Became like 5 big people burning everything, and everyone else camping in zone 2 for 2d.

They could compress island raid instead and it would be much better than DS.

[vital sun]

I liked ds tho

[vital sun]

It just match making that is bad ... Doesn't mean ds is bad

[peak lark]

But DS was bad not strictly because of matchmaking but because it had nothing going on. There was no flow.
And having 0 safety was really bad. Being out there with battle fever was a death sentence.

You camped out hoping to do the pve missions, get party crashed by whales, fill hospital, go home zone 2.
Or port around jumping zombie hunters. Then do 30m of metro rally sometimes if regions decided it was worth it.

[jolly barn]

No different than islands except u got an instant bubble after being hit and 85% return lol

Was worth it for the arms in ds rankings and the kills and healing worked with tc aswell

[peak lark]

Yeah that return rate should be standard for all pvp events, isn't inherent to the mechanics of DS.
And islands you had light of doomsday and people couldn't port onto your territory or anywhere they wanted.
Those are important for maintaining any sort of strategy.
And agree about the rewards too, but again, those should have been translated to IR too. Instead they greeded out and dropped them to nothing

[vital sun]

There is a flow ... Day 1 , field fight... Day 2 protect the metro

[vital sun]

This you need protection from your t6

[peak lark]

Half the time nobody even did the metro, and if you did, it was like 1h tops.
And field fight over nothing for no strategic advantage was pointless

[jolly barn]

Exactly, in quiet times do the farm missions n hives

[peak lark]

We had 1 lol.

[vital sun]

Fight last an hour is fun ... No need any longer ... But usually it last much longer

[peak lark]

It's just like a pvp brawl with no purpose, like even pompeii had more depth. which I'm all for a mindless brawl don't get me wrong, but it gets boring

[vital sun]

Good.

[peak lark]

If you miss that 1h then your DS is boring. Nothing happens

[vital sun]

Oh it has a purpose ... The purpose is to get points and get individual rewards

[peak lark]

Because there's no reason for anything else to happen. Nothing to fight over no towns, territory, zombie spawns, nothing

[peak lark]

That's inherent in every pvp event, that's different from strategic intent

[vital sun]

Yep that is sad ....but event mostly happen in reset time... Sometime it will happen again if you rally your balance

[vital sun]

This is a fighting game ... So no major change in all event

[jolly barn]

We had strategy lol we would bubble and bait and those who jumped at reset to base hit got swarmed lol big field fights, if we jumped the same would happen to us. Im a fighter so I'd always find a way to fight, I'd hide troops in towers and leave base in zone 2, or play taxi and take small players hunting farms was awesome quick fighty fun

[vital sun]

This

[jolly barn]

And most could play coz it was on the weekends

Now by the time they've knocked off work, the island are all pvp crap and fighting is finished lol

[vital sun]

Beside dark seal rewards is shared among the top alliance of 3 regions ... Which mostly likely be 3 alliance... Vs ir shared among 6 alliance ...

[peak lark]

I don't know, the last like... 5 DS I can remember were ghost towns. And we were I high Gs

[vital sun]

Way more competition

[peak lark]

Yeah we did all this too, but it's not got much depth for me I don't know

[vital sun]

I hate that strategy 😭

[peak lark]

I dunno, this feels like a lot of conflating things.

[vital sun]

Got used on us once

[vital sun]

And when we tried to do it .. the ds was cancelled 😭

Very sad to see ds gone

[peak lark]

Balancing entire regions is impossible, so it is doomed to always be a whale fest. Worse even than being the smallest ones in IR/AR

[vital sun]

Bro this whole game is about whale ... Nothing can change this outcome

[jolly barn]

What's with all the whale hate? Lol I don't mind fighting stronger players and alliances even if I die or lose haha maybe it's just me though 🤣

[peak lark]

That's not what I'm saying.
DS was something that quickly became pointless if you weren't a whale. Every other event has ways to participate and contribute without being thr strongest.
I

[vital sun]

I agree

[peak lark]

It's not hating on whales omg.
It's hating on the event because if you weren't a whale it became pointless. Everyone who wasn't one sat in zone 2, then even the whales were bored

[vital sun]

I am not whale but I consistently reached top 6 to 10 place ... The reward is huge vs ir and ar the requirements to reach top 6 to 10 place is way higher

[peak lark]

Never once have I hated on whale

[jolly barn]

Im not a whale, I found heaps of points in ds coz the rewards were worth fighting and dying for lol. Especially with tc running with it

[peak lark]

When DS started I could get top 30 as f2p, but then matching went down the toilet.
And again, it's not about the rewards. Those could be translated properly to any event.
It's about the mechanics of the event itself

[vital sun]

Ir and ar reward ... You have to compete with way larger groups of whales ... While competing in regions the rewards is shared with much smaller group of players

[peak lark]

Aight agree to disagree lol.
I don't think my points are being heard anyways because it keeps circling back to the same contradictions

By the end times, I don't remember anyone enjoying DS.

[vital sun]

This ... You said you don't hate whales but next sentence you mentioned ds is pointless because of whale ... Obviously you hating on whales

[peak lark]

This is terrible logic lol

[jolly barn]

I hope when they bring it back they open the whole region lol no more hiding haha

[peak lark]

Does not check out

[vital sun]

But that is true tho

[peak lark]

So pointless lol

[vital sun]

Your own sentence

[vital sun]

I agree

[jolly barn]

Will be plenty of points for me 🤣🤣

[peak lark]

No you're not getting it.
It's not commenting on the whales themselves at all. How is that not obvious??@vital sun

[vital sun]

Cause you said whale is there therefore it is pointless to participate in ds

[peak lark]

Me saying most people can't do the event without great cost and poor placement, is not the same as saying "I hate whales" omg

[peak lark]

AIGHT lol, not much reason to discuss this further. This is not good faith reasoning haha

[jolly barn]

Matching is matching, ya just gotta accept it. And have a go whether theirs whales or not. The cost was minimal in ds with 85% returned only 5mil rss taken and a free bubble.

[vital sun]

This

[vital sun]

1000% agree

[jolly barn]

Unlike islands where u get zeroed for everything and 65% back

[vital sun]

Thank you Aussie

So true

Also reward is way better

And easy to reach top 10

[jolly barn]

And tc with it aswell. It was a win all around

[vital sun]

Reaching top 10 is a problem in ar and ir

[peak lark]

They could put this in any event....
And just make an actual fun event?

[vital sun]

No way be fun for anyone .... Hint whale = pointless

[peak lark]

Rewards and coinciding with tc are all able to be translated to literally any pvp event they could come up with.

[peak lark]

Dude grow up haha

[vital sun]

... Arixei .....you said it your self tho😭

[jolly barn]

I have fun every event as long as I'm fighting lol we've been matched in all big g's for nearly every AR and IR with the whales haha so much fun everytime.

[vital sun]

Which region are you in

[jolly barn]

27

[vital sun]

You are so inline with I am thinkign

Ahahahah

[peak lark]

Same yeah, we are always the underdog really outmatched, but we love fighting. We are always out there just doing our thing

I'm really confused how this guy can't understand that I can say an event can be bad for giving no option for anyone but whales, and not hate whales for that. Like... it's that modes fault not the whale..

We have a mini whale, and some dolphins, I don't hate them lol

[vital sun]

Ds is fine ... Everywhere is whale ... So ya... But don't try to use whale to justify ds is pointless

[jolly barn]

Im not all there lol 🤣 masochrist haha 🫣😜😂

[peak lark]

I love the assumption I'm naive or something. Have a good one dude.

[vital sun]

Bro don't be mad 😅.... I apologize... I am sorry.

[peak lark]

It's not mad loool. People are wild

[vital sun]

[jolly barn]

Win or lose, you'll see me chasing whales in ranks every event coz I want the rewards lol and make friends along the way. I had meltdowns about matching at the start lol but I prefer the big g's to be honest lol always fighting and that's my thing so I'm right at home there 😅🤣

[vital sun]

Aussie

Can you join my server

[jolly barn]

What I do now? Haha

What region u in lol

[vital sun]

I want you in my server as partner in crime

[vital sun]

90

[jolly barn]

Find me in 27 on game and send me a msg haha

[vital sun]

It is like whatever you said ... Make sense to me

[jolly barn]

🤣 u must be crazy too haha

[vital sun]

Which alliance

Our alliance is not a farmer ... We move those high might and low kills to our farm alliance to participate in AR and ir

[jolly barn]

FX3

Im pres so should be easy to find lol