Special airstrike and gold drop don't spawn in Factions under specific circumstamces

[west iris]

The exact cause of this is the game checks if the alive and connected play difference between teams is >= 5, which means if the difference never goes higher than 4 (for example, in a lobby with 5 players), neither special airstrike nor gold drop would spawn

A solution to this would be to add another OR condition that would measure the ratio of the team with higher player count to the other team, and if it goes higher than 1.2, fire the helpLosingTeam function

This way itd ensure the help gets sent after the total player count goes below 50

Special airstrike and gold drop don't spawn in Factions under specific circumstamces

[late estuary]

note that in surviv it didnt always spawn on the losing team's side, only there was a higher chance to do so

im talking about golden drop

i have video proof

[late estuary]

and what do you mean by special airstrike?

the one with 5 fighters?

[west iris]

both of them spawn at the same time

the airdrop is just delayed for natural reasons

[west iris]

yes

it is guaranteed to have 5 fighters

[late estuary]

but we dont know when these spawn right?

[west iris]

wdym we dont

we do

[west iris]

read the post

[late estuary]

but thats only how it was estimated

i did the research

it was guessed i think

[west iris]

no

[west iris]

it only counts the connected players

therefore if someone disconnected it may seem like it fires on 6 or 4 player differences

or other numbers

but most of the time the winning team is the one with disconnects

[late estuary]

really? well then thats new info for me

but I dont understand why they spawn often on the losing team side, but not always

bcz of zone maybe

[west iris]

airstrikes?

or gold drop

[late estuary]

gold drop isnt guaranteed for the losing team

[west iris]

we actually dont know the exact algorithm for either but it is assumed that the special airstrike targets the highest player density area on the map like normal airstrikes

and gold drop looks for the furthest point away from winning team players

[late estuary]

so if winning team players are everywhere on the map, then the gold drop just must spawn near the winning side even if it doesnt want to

that may be right

wait

maybe it spawns on the winning side bcz the losing players are on the winning side

maybe it targets them, not the side

but thats probably wrong

[lucid kraken]

I played a lot of 50v50 when Surviv.io was a thing and the Golden air drop always landed on the loosing side. More exactly, near the next storm border.

I have never seen that it landed on the winning side.

(Another option would be to just look into old the code)

[late estuary]

yes, it has a higher chance of spawning on the losing side, but on some recordings it spawnd on the winning side

I dont know why

[lucid kraken]

Glitch?

[late estuary]

I dont think so, maybe it happens when the zone covers the losing side and players from losing and winning teams are mixed - the golden drop probably tries to spawn far away from the largest group of winning players

this can result of it spawning almost buried in the zone

and on the other side

but thats my theory based on videos and data

idk

or...maybe it has a small chance to do so

wait, I will watch the recordings again and write down when they goldens spawn

I will send the results here then

[late estuary]

@west iris
@lucid kraken
In this video, the gold airdrop lands on the winning teams side plus it lands in the red zone!
https://youtu.be/wPMzAs79LG8?t=2014
In this video, the golden airdrop lands even when both teams have very close numbers of members
https://youtu.be/NgIGpnw2Wzw?t=308
The golden drops are clearly not scheduled

[west iris]

the side does not matter

what matters is where the players are

[late estuary]

but when it spawns, I feel like it doesnt follow logic pattern lol

[west iris]

for example if blue is the winning team and all of its players are on the red side of the map, while the red players are on the blue side of the map, the airdrop will spawn on the blue side

[late estuary]

yes thats how it is

but when it spawns?

[west iris]

I think the reason it spawns in the red zone is because the algorithm looks for spots furthest away from any winning team players

[west iris]

read the post

[west iris]

READ

thats when it spawns

[late estuary]

the player was a long time near the future spawn of the drop, so yes this seems like a good explanation

[late estuary]

so, you mean the golden airdrop in surviv never spawned if the team count differences didnt drop below 5?

[west iris]

yes

[late estuary]

omg, thats it

[west iris]

its not

[late estuary]

I have many videos

[west iris]

i have even more

[late estuary]

it always does spawn when zone moves

[west iris]

it doesnt

always

[late estuary]

100% sure?

[west iris]

im a perfectionist

[late estuary]

okay

can I see the video where it doesnt? just I am interested bcz I dont have any video like that

[west iris]

just look at 50v50 stream footage

look for when the special airstrike spawns

then fast forward 20 seconds

and thatll be your gold drop

[west iris]

you can tell its a special airstrike when it doesnt spawn on an integer second

[late estuary]

so the wiki is clearly lying now

[west iris]

wiki is wrong everywhere

[late estuary]

wow man your knowledge is exceptional

[west iris]

I know everything about surviv

[late estuary]

you are at the right place then

do you think the gold drop spawned more weapons than 6?

bcz the code shows 6-8

and I always saw 6

[west iris]

that code is taken from surviv

[late estuary]

as well as the videos

isnt it possible they changed the code after?

[west iris]

no

its from v0.8.8

[lucid kraken]

Someone here knows ball