Familiar Arena QA

[waxen spoke]

but simply cant do anything. i just love attacking

when u attack and watch u understand how mechanics work

what fams to combine

[shell grail]

yeah

[waxen spoke]

what fams are trash on fam arena

[shell grail]

but this near Monday

so bear with it

[waxen spoke]

im top 30 now i think, im fine)

[shell grail]

and also 5/5 tickets made me feel sorry

[waxen spoke]

monday and tuesday i always experiment

[shell grail]

waste of Competitive heart

[waxen spoke]

this morning 3 loss in a row on attack ahahah

[shell grail]

I have to keep my top10

so passive play

recently got targeted by 416k cp guy

[waxen spoke]

416 is brutal

i know a10 rare has 83k attack

[shell grail]

he can reach #1 but sadly #1 is his kd mate and thier kd has a stupid rule to not attacking each other on FA

[waxen spoke]

we dont have this rule. but i dont attack clan mates on sunday

[flat crane]

My cactus is only A1 now

Summons are going awful on his banner

[waxen spoke]

i agree

1st banner i got 4 rares!

my friend got 4 rarea too! and they all were cactus!

[shell grail]

+360 on 3 of them
+330 on 2 of them

[waxen spoke]

but 2? 3 and 4 banner only 1 cactus for me

[waxen spoke]

i dont understand

[shell grail]

jellied

[waxen spoke]

ah u mean jellie

full a10 rare team is 415k

+300j

[shell grail]

if u use generic toy, yeah

specific dont give a lot of cp

[waxen spoke]

i use only personal toys

I now go for squibby

because i made puffu 7

someone said that squibby is top healer in Korea. i wonder why

high KD, low heal

toko is better

[shell grail]

he got 40% DMG reduction

with 20% burst healing to all fam

[waxen spoke]

20% is trash

disb does 70

[shell grail]

disb - single healing

[waxen spoke]

5% damage reduction is miserable

squib AOE?

[shell grail]

yes

[waxen spoke]

mostly if u have taurex, he absorbs most dealt damage. so someone needs to heal him

squiby with 20% is gay

toko can heal rest of the team

however, soon so many pips will have high stag, so everyoone will be pulled and having another aoe healer is great. but squib is water. stag has 300% damage on lull. its almost 1 shot for squib

so idk. ill make a7 just because i also need it for my support deck

[flat crane]

I got 1 catus + pity. Rest was crap

I'm hoping for more luck on the second going

[flat crane]

I'm thinking about getting him from the eggs. Aw3 should do some work

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane I got 6 cactus, 1 molten lion, 1 sage deer and someone else from 4 banners

Lol, this trash guy dropped from egg summoning

[flat crane]

Oh damn, that was really good 😁

[keen verge]

not trash, very strong at awake 7 and above in Fam arena. and at the current awake, its useable for pvp and xf

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge no, this familiar is great only at a10 on fam arena. Argumentation is the following: only at a10 it has 100% chance to nullify control skills of opponent's fams. Let's take a9. It has 95% chance, so every battle his skill can miss, so trash. We are talking only fam arena here, so I don't consider any other aspects of the game

However, he is water type, so it will be countered by stag and cactus, oroboros

[waxen spoke]

I know that u can say that sun has a 50% chance of skill proc, but his KD is 50% and it still deals 250% damage. 🐻‍❄ is basically useless if he miss, so u need a10 and it's very expensive. I suggest investing in other options, hehe

[keen verge]

At a7 the resist rate is already high. You can look at kr jp familiar tier list youll see ursa is up there. Ursa have unique utility

Ursa is not that bad against Oroboros and stag. I have this impression that you havent face an ursla glacier in high ranks yet

Even cactus wont do anything he wont be attacking ursa since he will tunnel backline and die fast

[waxen spoke]

"Hight enough" is not enough. 100% is needed for it to be useful. Before that he miss and basically become useless. I don't believe tier lists. I have my own thoughts based on my combat experience. And believe me I have a lot of experience😄 For 9 months I attack 5 times every day and I watch my battles. I mean OK, u think that he is even good a7, OK your choice. In my opinion, bear is a great family, but on a10 only. I love his skill, since it blocks formation destruction

[waxen spoke]

Im completely out of the fruits

[flat crane]

Yea, I can see the fruit packs starting to show up soon

[waxen spoke]

I've beat this guy destroying that sun fam by relics. Kona nad mite destroy disb and toko. Basically he is using stall formation, except he probs doesn't have good taurex, so he uses boar. On the second screen ive lost. But it was before i changed for kona+mite. At first i wanted to buff puffu with sage to kill boar and shrimp - he and me lost 0 fams, but he won that def

[flat crane]

I've been trying dururu against stall teams and so far seems to be working

[torn loom]

F2p cons against hippo and ebon? I m struggeling against them in top100. Dont have hippo and only low awake ebon (a5)

Need an toko replacement too. Have only a6

And how are you using sunshine? Thanks for the replys

[waxen spoke]

Hmm...Toko replacement? Why? It's a top healer. It's used even in Korea in top 30 teams, but not in top 10 ofc.

[waxen spoke]

I use in on a back line even though it's a tank. I place it back mid, so Dururu jumps on him haha. If u place it front, someone will use relix.

[waxen spoke]

Ebon cancels skills and tanks a ton, but u can counter his running with mite, ebon. Sun deals good damage to ebon.

Against hippo it's hard to do something if u are full f2p. U need stag to pull him from the back. However they now give u a rare egg every month, so u should've gotten him a3 by this time

Cactus also is good against hippo+suriyu combo

My defence team now is full f2p BTW. Idk, I have too many familliars, so I don't know who to pick 😅

[torn loom]

Thanks for the reply will rebuild my Team and test it. My toko is only a6, thats why i m asking for an replacement

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom sort your fams by BR and send screenshot here

I will give u an advice

[waxen spoke]

OK. Try this:
Boar Disbelief
Sun Shrimp
Toko

[torn loom]

Thanks will put them Up

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom hide Disbelief (please it behind boar) and hide sun.

Top 100 guaranteed

[torn loom]

Ok

[torn loom]

What bounding tree skills should i use for def?

Using atk speed up and def up?

[waxen spoke]

Idk. I use skill block and damage every 30 seconds. There are other options like shield and attack

Def up is useless in top 10. People use stag that pulls healers and kill them with nukes.

[torn loom]

Hmmh OK. Thank you for the Help.

🥰

[topaz sandal]

Can I have advice on lineup? Thank you

[waxen spoke]

@topaz sandal toko, Disbelief, shrimpaler, sun, dururu

[topaz sandal]

Can I hear how this lineup works? No boar? I have the elemental synergy bond power which will not work with the lineup though 😦

[shell grail]

boar is out meta now and u can reset your bond power anytime

[topaz sandal]

So which bond power(s) will be good with the lineup?

3 out of 5 of those familiar has 0 enhancement at the moment, will still work better than my enhanced ones? Sorry, really learning now

[shell grail]

enhance them

[shell grail]

would be def up and enemy's atk down

[topaz sandal]

Thanks C and Vega 🙂

[tight glade]

where do you guys place sunshine in arena? front or back? feel like mine dies too quickly

[waxen spoke]

@tight glade this is how I place my def. Sun front, but bull runs in front of it. Disbelief back, but he runs in front of shrimp and I hide disb and bull.

[shell grail]

weekly reward distributed

[topaz shoal]

Lets go i get goldd

[waxen spoke]

They need to do something with fam arena. So hecking stupid! Every day same scenario. All teams full bunker, impossible to beat up. Timer just runs out

[shell grail]

defense stall meta

attack 3 times a week

or whale more

ppl with a10 a.lynx and a10 relixx can beat those

a10 archness can do that too

[flat crane]

Have you tried using dururu as bait?

[shell grail]

Sunshine said, "You shall not pass!!"

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane my dururu is a7 without jelly and has 444 toys

@flat crane

[small basin]

what is the best fam skill to use in this team comp?

[shell grail]

@small basin if u plan for burst, replace frontline boost with Hand of Destruction

replace backline boost with Hidden Fragment

[small basin]

yes im planning to burst sunshine

is it workable in that situation?

[shell grail]

still RNG based, Sunshine has 50% chance to apply -20% atk and acc rate

and IMO, u cant with water burst

need dark elemental burst

Relixx and co.

[small basin]

can i burst it with dino awake 7?

[flat crane]

Do you have toys for lynx?

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane 654

[flat crane]

Hum, I'd consider giving some jellies to him. He can be good vs stall teams

[shell grail]

my a10 cant

and DIno is suck anyway

[waxen spoke]

If I had a10, I might've considered investing into him

I mean dururu

Temple season ends soon, I'm thinking on getting a toy for relix and a toy for puffu, so both will be 665

I have rare selection, but idk who to take for, stag or squibby

[shell grail]

is there Relixx toy already?

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail yes and sun and cactus

[shell grail]

didn't notice

[waxen spoke]

I got 2 for cactus. He is 466

[flat crane]

I took it for shrimpaler

[flat crane]

I'm gonna invest in my cactus as well. Got a rare toy and yesterday merged another 5 star for him

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane my shrimp is 556 or 566

[flat crane]

Mine is 666 with rare

[small basin]

why its suck?

btw can u recommend me a good line up in this fam arena in my new account

[shell grail]

mostly got wrecked before do anything

[small basin]

how about here can u see it

its awake 4 and its in new server

[shell grail]

might use monkey instead of shrimp

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail I like monkey, great healer

[flat crane]

With grand Prix I've been looking a lot to familiars I though they were useless 😅

[waxen spoke]

Same for most of the players

[shell grail]

not us, Pokemon trainer

[waxen spoke]

watched the last episode last night

[shell grail]

goodbye Satoshi (Ash)

[waxen spoke]

bought 3 toys in shop and got very lucky witch squiby and stag!

[waxen spoke]

but later on i fused three 5st toys using instruments and got a hecking 6st feather!

what a trash haha]

[flat crane]

This one was very nice

The feather was not needed tho 😂

[waxen spoke]

any ideas what toy i should take: squiby or stag? i will make squiby a7 eventually. personally thinking towards stag, since he is tank and faces most of the damage

@shell grail @flat crane what do you think?

[shell grail]

4 -> 6 make a huge improvement

[waxen spoke]

yes, but i dont use squiby

and i can give him 6 non rare later

[shell grail]

u have your answer

[flat crane]

If squiby was aw7 I had no doubt on going for him but I think stag is saffer for now

[waxen spoke]

in 1 week we get boxes from temple

[shell grail]

Im not even 2400 yet

[flat crane]

I don't even know what's 2400

[waxen spoke]

but idk, take squiby 6 rare or give him noon rare 6 and give deer 6 rare

what would've u done if u were on my spot?

[waxen spoke]

i actually dont haha

on korean server they use a10 deer, but no squiby

in top 10

[shell grail]

stag, prob
more awakening

[flat crane]

I'd go for the 2nd one

By the time you get squiby to aw7 maybe you get another rare one

[waxen spoke]

ok, ill do the trick

ill take for stag

and ill have 3 five st toys

so ill fuse them

[flat crane]

Let us know what you got on the fuse 👀

[waxen spoke]

poop

my byrde is a8 with 0 jellie. and it has 644 now

now he is a threat

like it? i'll leave it a9 till i bring squiby to a7

[waxen spoke]

I just won such a great match. My 3 grass type against his 3 fire type and 2 water type

He had dururu

I used stag, toko and cactus

I'll send screen in 5 minutes

[waxen spoke]

My 1st Def with a new set up!

[flat crane]

That stag gonna be making some damage 😅

With my new setup I came from 80-100 to 10 😂

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane hehe, enjoy, was glad to share some knowledge😁

I need to change 1 toy from 4 to 6 star in my monkey. And I think I'll get another 1 for puffu or relix, cause they are also 456

Monkey is like toko, but monkey heals 30, and toko 40, but toko heals fams in the pool, but monkey heals full team

Toko healed more, because he has 566 toys

[flat crane]

I was looking on monkey the other day as well cause I ran out of healers for grand Prix and he seems a good choice

Once I finish cactus and Dino I think I'll go monkey and penguicorn perhaps

I wish I had more copies of byrde as well. Only aw5

[waxen spoke]

I'm working on flatterby right now. Made a9 and 6st, now investing jelly. Got 555 for him

[shell grail]

The fastest man alive

[shell sparrow]

Do we have a thread for Grand Prix setups? I want to get some insights on what could be used for teams 1-3 as well as bonding powers

Also is 5* Ebon toy better than 6* general vest?

[shell grail]

IMO, yes

dmg reduction > def+

[shell sparrow]

Thats what im thinking

But what about gloves? 5* aurora toy > 6* general glove?

[shell grail]

for the glove, prioritize this

1. star
2. specific

so 6* is better

[waxen spoke]

Idk, I still like personal toys more

[shell grail]

I tested them a long time ago

same tier, go yellow
diff tier, go for higher tier

[waxen spoke]

Mite, suriyu and kona are the only 3 fams I use that have 444 personal, all the others have 555+

[shell grail]

now my turn to choose

the rare one too

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail show us what uve taken)

[shell grail]

not pick them yet

prob Relixx for the rare

cause the Sunshine stall meta

[waxen spoke]

Sun can be killed without relix

Relax all along doesn't have much damage, as far as I have seen

[shell grail]

or keep it for bunny

[shell grail]

sorry, I almost forgot this question.

we used the same knowledge here.

but with the more RNG

u have not much choices if u are not a whale

u can pick opponent

[shell sparrow]

Mind if I send my fami and maybe see if I could change up my current teams and powers?

[shell grail]

U can post it here

everybody in this topic can give u ideas

[shell sparrow]

Currently what I got

Although I could reset it

To test something out

[rugged bridge]

Wow, what's your level of bonding tree? near 40 for 3 slots?
no doubt, you can put 2 skills each team at fam grandprix.

[shell sparrow]

Currently on Grade 33 for my Bonding Tree, nearly there for 3 slots hahaha

[rugged bridge]

Thats gonna cost a lot of Gold, fam fruit and territes

[shell grail]

1 healer each deck? push Disbeleaf up maybe

[shell grail]

end up pick 6s for Shrimp to replace to old 4s.
still cant decide what to pick from the 6s rare

[shell sparrow]

My prob rn is beans

Used up all my additional tickets as well

[shell sparrow]

I can push them up to +300 or even 360

[shell grail]

F.Adventure?

[shell grail]

he can be tank as well

[shell sparrow]

Yepppp

Had like 70 tickets lol

[shell grail]

bean capped

[shell sparrow]

I need 1 more to make my dark tree lvl 10

Bulked hatch my way through 2 Dino and 1 Pengui lol

[flat crane]

Got him A9 yesterday too

[topaz shoal]

p1 sunshine, p2 arachness, p3 toko, p4 aurora, p5 rellix

attack meta moment

and if you had a higher squibby ill replace toko for it

[fair wave]

Does this work for defense as well or just attacking?

[topaz shoal]

i see many whales use full attack on defence too

squibby + sun is incredibly strong

but stag is your downfall tho

[fair wave]

Stag specifically or any grouping fam?

[fair wave]

I dont think I’m whale enough to do that lmao

[topaz shoal]

no just stag, cause it pulls rellix and aurora fking you up

[flat crane]

For defense you can go full stall if you have good toys cause your familiars are high aw

Try sun+ebon+boar+tolo+shrimpaler. If you get higher aw on squiby he is really op

Since I changed my defense to that I came from top80-100 to top8-10 currently

But I have almost everyone with 6* toys

[fair wave]

Alright will try that!

[fair wave]

Thanks will test that on my def as well!

[flat crane]

For attack you can also use lynx since yours is high aw

[fair wave]

This is alynx i assume? Not firelynx? 👀

[flat crane]

No, I mean firelynx

[fair wave]

Haven’t seen how this plays out. Could you explain how it would work?

[flat crane]

You mean which team to use?

[fair wave]

Yes the firelynx team ☺️

[waxen spoke]

I'm also not in top 30 currently. Simply because u can't win against stall teams

Even though my fams are outstanding

@fair wave try stag, toko, hippo, suriyu and shrimp. Or switch shrimp with sun. Many fams- many combinations

I wish I had a strong hippo, not a0. Hippo is extremely strong, much better than Puffu. Shrimp simply can't stand that damage

[flat crane]

How are your toys on your dmg dealers?

[waxen spoke]

Just made the third 5st toy for him

[fair wave]

Yup usually prob is timer runs out 😦

[waxen spoke]

My friend has a Kona like this

[fair wave]

6s specific on alynx, relix, kona, hippo, arach.
6s and 5s specific on firelynx, hog, dino, puffu and oroboros
4s specific on mite and suiryu

[waxen spoke]

This guy is f2p and i cant kill him. He lost 0, i lost 0. 4 healers! I think now to beat this c.r.ap u need a7+ firelynx

squiby for def and firelynx for attack

I kinda understand why he doesn't use sun, because it has 50-50 chance to proc his ult. even though I break his formation, he doesnt give a heck, since he has too much of a healing going on and without blocking this healing everything is impossible. I started investing jelly into flatterby, but as soon as i'll be done - ill start going for lynx. Bless God it's 655

[shell grail]

u need more attack fam, replace your shrimp with something else

wombo combo needed, maybe a.lynx

or mite

not that weakling firelynx

sorry, I have bias

[waxen spoke]

Firelynx's ult on a3 deals 616%

Not that weak I must say

[waxen spoke]

Someone here said that squiby gives 40 or 50% defence on a10. Have a look. Only 5%/ Last number. Heals 20, gives 5% def.

[shell grail]

translated issue, report it

[flat crane]

Go firelynx, alynx/hippo, your best healer and on front use ebon + dururu if you have good toys for him. if not let me know

[fair wave]

I have 6s and 2x 5s specific toys on dururu

[flat crane]

Then should work. Mine is a bit different cause I don't have firelynx that high aw

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane same here. Even though I understand that awakening firelynx doesn't increase its damage too much, but it actually greatly lowers its ult cooldown, so under a7 its kinda meh. But on a7+ it's a straight counter to a toko+Disbelief meta

[flat crane]

Yup, that's why I suggested that to him. He his the only kinda good counter for this cancer meta 😅

[flat crane]

😌

[topaz sandal]

Why is disbelief good? I only see heals, what am I missing?

[rugged bridge]

Awk 10 its 70% healing at lowest hp fam

and skill CD very fast at spesific toys

imagine all 6 stars toys below 10secs

Thats pretty decent combo with Squibby, Shrimp & Toko

[waxen spoke]

My disb is 555, still heals great

[flat crane]

Have you tried cactus on familiar arena?

I'm curious to know how he performs

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane I have. A couple of times. Idk, I have probably won once. I always loose on attack

And always win Def. But no one attacks me

[flat crane]

I'm kinda divided now. Should I use my jellies to increase a few more options for grand Prix or should I craft premium jellies instead?

[shell grail]

IMO, get your 15 fams to +300 first

P. Jellies require a lot of material and gold

[flat crane]

I'm pretty much done on that. Last one is just missing 20 jelly. But I'm not sure if I should have backup options and invest on them or just improve the current ones I use

[torn loom]

Premium jellis are craftable?!? Did i pass something?

[torn loom]

Wtf how you won this? Aw of your to dark shinys?

[flat crane]

You can exchange on store

[flat crane]

Dururu keeps them busy while the others kill

But people are changing their defenses and putting ebon in the back now 🤔

Have to think about it

[waxen spoke]

ebon back is bad idea if u use def up

because he doesnt get extra def

[flat crane]

I don't remember if he was using Def up, I can check later

But he completely denied my dururu

[waxen spoke]

ill show u something

cant...file too big

[torn loom]

Oh OK thank you. Didnt know that

[torn loom]

Crazy

[waxen spoke]

cactus deals good damage to water rypes

he rapes them

[flat crane]

I'm debating between him or hippo

Both are aw2 but can make them higher

Only thing is that I have way better toys for cactus

[shell grail]

@gaunt thunder or @topaz shoal can u guys pin this

[spring forum]

Shrimp toys most unique n effective honestly

[shell grail]

yes, but I will raise my Bunny to A7 soon. thinking to get him a rare

[tribal stream]

does this affect Shrimpaler? cant see if it is

[shell grail]

should be, but Shrimp has like 0.5s CD
+10% will be 0.55s CD

[flat crane]

im glad i chose that one

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail are you sure that shrimp toys decrease its skill cool down? So it will be -36% is 3 toys equipped. 0.5-0.36%=0.32s? I've thought that he also gets +heal recovery as a second stat, like Toko.

Also, as far as I know, giving shrimp a rare feather doesn't make him better, in fact - it makes him worse, since he looses healing power.

I think that you've sent an incorrect description of the shrimp rare toy. It's 1st stat must be the same as a not rare one and it's +healing%

I chose a rare toy for stag, but if I had a7+ shrimp, I'd hands down chose a toy for him. Just because on a10 he has 10s cool down on his ult, with three 6st toys and his ult is 5 seconds. So basically you are weakened only for 5 seconds!

[thorny herald]

yeah it's heal recovery brother.

[shell grail]

fixed it
Rare 6* Toys (Updated: March 30, 2023)

@topaz shoal can u pin this?

[topaz shoal]

Sure thing

[waxen spoke]

Lol, I've lost 4/6 battles on grand arena today! Yesterday won like 7/10 including def

[shell grail]

too competitive on Asia

[waxen spoke]

On Europe too

Also have recognized that sun vs relix in 1 v 1 kills relix

[shell grail]

yes, the RNG hits it hard

[waxen spoke]

Idk, I don't know why they use relix in Korea. I feel like it's very weak

I've seen many matches, where my relix can't do a thing. Other fams show themselves better, even suriyu and mite with 444 toys!

And relix has a7 655

[shell grail]

he alone is weak, need dark squad to benefit from his debuff

[topaz shoal]

what should i get?

[shell grail]

prioritize replace 4s first

[topaz shoal]

o trust me i have all 4 stars lol

[shell grail]

squibby missing 1

[topaz shoal]

so i get squid?

[shell grail]

yeah, or cat

[topaz shoal]

mmmm idk man

if you were me what you get?

[shell grail]

I have bias through Dino

[topaz shoal]

i feel squid will benefit more

[shell grail]

Cat

find 4s for squib

[topaz shoal]

ok

[shell grail]

yes

[waxen spoke]

Cat can't do a thing against bull anyways

[topaz shoal]

ok i get cat

[waxen spoke]

I'd take squid

[topaz shoal]

o sht

i already took cat

\

[waxen spoke]

Nwmnd

Just as far as I could see, bull is too tanks and cats ult doesn't do much damage. My cat is a8, with 556 toys. So healers outheal cat's damage

[topaz shoal]

balls

[shell grail]

yeah, my current situation is everybody use ebon sunshine toko shrimp + 1 attacker or disbeleaf.
and I cant find a squad to beat that

[waxen spoke]

Basically the same, but I found how to beat this

Toko is range. Disbelief is melee

So u need stag to pull

Stag, toko, mite/firelynx, kona, shrimp. Try this. Set it so bull bushes shrimp or kona, because they don't have ult

Your job is to kill disb and toko

Rest will die

[shell grail]

my poor stag a3

[flat crane]

Agreed, with good dark ones he destroys

[keen verge]

Relix is strong even without other dark fams in team. I take back what i said monthe ago

[shell grail]

his skill is multiple hit, first hit applied debuff, the rest benefit from it

but... still meh... if he alone

[keen verge]

No no no he very strong

Use passive dmg buffs hehe

He is the only dark fam in my team he is fine

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge I can't send videos here. They r too big. I could show u that she is not strong

She couldn't kill the sun

She needs a companion

And idk what companion it should be

Maybe the last event one

Maybe I can turn on the stream in discord and show you some matches

[keen verge]

My relix is a10 with rare toy

[waxen spoke]

So it's 6r66?

My is a7 655

[shell grail]

he strong now

@waxen spoke our poor A7 cant do sheet

[keen verge]

Yes

[waxen spoke]

My a9 stag with 6r66 can tank her for sure

[keen verge]

No cant. He gets silenced befoe he can even pull

But in a defensive set up he can survive abit

[waxen spoke]

lol, just fused 4st toys and got another 5st feather! What a scam!

[flat crane]

I fell you, makes me wanna puke when I see those 🤢

[topaz shoal]

shiny feather gang

[waxen spoke]

i finally made it back to top 10! decided to attack only those who im 100% sure to kill

[spring forum]

Shrimp heal is a passive hehe

[spring forum]

With lynx & relixx combo you can make ebon disappear 🫠

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum my relix a7, lynx a8 with 556. Idk, I'll try your theory on Monday.

[spring forum]

Like this !

Switch molten with sunshine if you want

[waxen spoke]

405k?

Come on...

[spring forum]

Could be more I got more jellies hehehe

[waxen spoke]

What tree level do u have?

[spring forum]

Let me check

30

[waxen spoke]

Nice, I'm at 25

[spring forum]

Well you are very close to 30 then go to 40 3rd buff hehe

[waxen spoke]

Yea, I wanna get that 3rd buff, but out of fruits now

Because I made 6st all the main fam arena fams

Can I see all of your fams?

Will show you mine

[flat crane]

Jezz how did I win Def against that? 😳

[spring forum]

Well you can still win

But all my familiars are with 6 star toys and ssr toys as well but still people win

[waxen spoke]

U need a crab to convert 2 fams into pumpkin, so they don't deal damage

[spring forum]

Coz it all depends on the buff you choose in arena now a days

Coz you have to switch the arena buff according to the player you do atk

[waxen spoke]

Taurex front can be outplayed by mite or taurex.

How many rare toys do u have?

[spring forum]

If it’s with 2 healer ex: you need skill damage 15% buff and also hand of destruction or else back row atk speed 10% buff

[spring forum]

For all the familiars I have all the rare toys

I mean for all the familiars that I use

[waxen spoke]

Whaaaat? How?

[spring forum]

I got lucky with toys

[waxen spoke]

Come on(

I got a stupid rare feather

And I chose 1 toy for a9 330 stag

They must make an option to change rare toys

Because now it's very stupid

[spring forum]

Currently I’m working on these familiars toys

[waxen spoke]

Attack speed increases your normal attack. It doesn't decrease ultimate skill time. However, there are familiars, like kona, puffu, relix, lynx that basically always have their ult going, so they benefit from the attack speed buff

[spring forum]

I love splisher it’s much better than I thought specially with hood toys

Good*

[waxen spoke]

No, splisher is the worst healer in the game

Try monkey - he is 2nd Toko

[spring forum]

Yes atk speed buff is really good

[spring forum]

I mean I personally like him

[waxen spoke]

I use def up for the frontliners and attack +15%

@spring forum 10 lynx and relix is gigawhale haha

Do u awaken with 50%?

Because I always go for 100. I'm not lucky at all

[spring forum]

I never did 50% accept from a7 to a8 lynx

I did all my familiars 100% coz I tried earlier molten 50% and failed twice so I learn my lesson the hard way other wise molten would have been right now a10

Look splisher 🙂 it’s pretty good

[waxen spoke]

Just lost this defence. But! He has a10 relix and a9 auroralynx. There were 10 seconds left and I would've won.

@spring forum my fams

@spring forum ahahha, ivythea is from my server, she just beat me. Had 10 seconds left though. Need to change a 4st toy on my monkey

She uses attack speed buff and attack buf if team is above 45

Her toys are better. If I had more 6st toys - I would've defended myself.
My team:
Bull 556
Toko 566
Sun 556
Stag 6r66
Monkey 456

So I when temple ends, I'll take 6st for monkey and maybe 6st for puffu or Squibby

[waxen spoke]

Looked at it - nothing fascinating. And you look on my monkey with 456 toys. Healing is almost like toko

And it's a9

Fletterby is the last fam I'm raising to +300. Will accumulate jellie after that

For Petal💖

[spring forum]

Good luck

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum and you too😇

[waxen spoke]

I've lost 1 Kona and 1 sage deer when tried to 50%. But I also succeeded with 50% on auroralynx from 6 to 7 and sage deer from 7 to 8, so I'm kinda 50-50 hehe. But now I do only 100%. Same with rare weapons and jewelery

[tame sluice]

What dan can defeat sunny ? 🥹

*familiar

[waxen spoke]

This is such a scam! 3 feathers into regular gloves!

[waxen spoke]

Relix

[tame sluice]

Is there any Budget one ?

[waxen spoke]

@tame sluice only 1 option left - Dino. But u need 2 healers, I'd go Toko or Monkey + shrimp or Disbelief

Goblin is not the option, because he jumps on a random target

[shell grail]

at least, its a glove

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail do you think that it's better than a 4st personal glove?

[shell grail]

to highest attack stat

[shell grail]

yes

for the glove,
diff star -> go for more star
equal star -> go for yellow one

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail yes, true, but it depends on the toys and awakening level of the opponents fams. In my team stag has the highest attack, so goblin won't do much to him

[waxen spoke]

You tested it? Personal 4st has 7%, and red glove 5st also has 7%

[shell grail]

yeah tested it already

[waxen spoke]

Actually, I can test myself, because I have 5 and 6 regular and 4, 5, 6 personal

[shell grail]

same star, result almost the same, so I suggest yellow one

diff star, more star gave more output

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail you are right. 5st regular is slightly better that 4st personal. 4st personal is slightly better than 4st regular

[flat crane]

I've been going that path for 3 days in a row. Only feathers and gloves

[flat crane]

Oh is that correct? Damn I need to take that in consideration

[spring forum]

Very easy put range attacker like relix and lynx with 15% skill damage buff or else keep Dino in back like straight to sunshine. Dino will make sunshine disappear 🫥 but Dino is cannon glass

[shell grail]

that bond power require A45 in total, that sounds whale if u need relixx and a.lynx

[spring forum]

Yes but I mean in general take some familiar that has fire power with awaken 9 or 10

Even if it’s normal rare

It doesn’t need to be awaken ssr

Also I lost to decent comp with normal rare familiars not even a single SSR familiar was in that comp you believe it or not

I had a10 all the familiar in my comp with 360 jellies

6 star toys

Well it’s maybe because he was running too healers with 6 star toys

If you want really defend it’s ideal to put 2 healers in back line and get that atk speed buff specially if you are running shrimp 🍤

[waxen spoke]

Ок, any thoughts on how to beat this?

i made my mind that ebon is not needed here. It runs into the sun and cat destroys it

idk if relis a7 655 alone can do a thing, so i think to give her a partner or get rig of relix and taurex and take shrimp and mite, since he has no water fams in def

[flat crane]

Oof this is a really hard one 🤔
Shrimp and mite could be good but I fell like you won't have enough damage, assuming he has both healers at aw10
Oh that 2nd team seems good tho but I fell like Toko doesn't do much in there

But if you swap to shrimp then you dont have front line

Do you think your stag can handle being on the side of sun and lynx?

[waxen spoke]

He can handle that for sure, since he will be getting normal damage. His stag is a9

The key is to kill 1 tank very fast

Levitun gives debuff and deals 300%

Relix also gives dark debuff

[flat crane]

But I don't think it will be enough to kill sun. I was thinking going for stag first perhaps

Or do you think you can kill sun fast with that setup?

[waxen spoke]

To kill stag u need at least 2 fire DPS

[flat crane]

Cause I fell like rellix doesn't have that much dmg

[waxen spoke]

I don't know. But today is Friday and I'm barely top 10

So I might try killing him on Monday and I'll try this 2 comps

[flat crane]

I think the 2nd one has potential. The only thing that worries me is toko

[waxen spoke]

My toko or his?

[flat crane]

Yours

At least mine goes down fairly quickly with 5/6* toys

[waxen spoke]

He has only 1 fire fam

[flat crane]

You are using defense up and the other one is skill damage?

Yea but lynx hits pretty hard

[waxen spoke]

The other one is 15% damage

Oh, I can't use 2nd combo

Because relix and Levitun are a7 and kona and stag a9

I can only use 3 fire fam formation

[flat crane]

Are those 2 the only ones you got leveled?

[waxen spoke]

Mite back might be able to block stags pull

@flat crane what do you mean? Let me show you my crew

My friend just killed him using this

[shell grail]

I hate stag, no comment

[flat crane]

The skills. You have defense up and skill 15% only?

[flat crane]

Oh wow, with suryi 😅

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane I have others, but I can reset

[flat crane]

Agreed 😂

[flat crane]

You can reset the points? 😳

[shell grail]

yes

[flat crane]

How?

[shell grail]

100k gold each time

[flat crane]

I did something wrong at the start 😅

And has been bugging me since then

[shell grail]

that curved arrow

[flat crane]

Omg I'm blind 🥲

[flat crane]

Front row you can go as your friend did with shrimp behind mite with the other 2 darks and hope they kill sun in the first few secs but it's risky

[waxen spoke]

Risky is not the option. I can give u multiple variations of risky setups. i need an almost guaranteed one, hehe

My friend has high toys on mite and suriyu

i have 444 mite, kona and suriyu

[flat crane]

Oh then no, it's just to risky

[shell grail]

nothing guarantee with the Sunshine there

[flat crane]

Who has your highest toys

[waxen spoke]

Stag 6s66, relix 556, lynx 556, puffu 556, sun 556, toko 566, shrimp 556, cactus 666, ebon 556, monkey 456

theese r probably the highest

[flat crane]

Let me get home to check something

[waxen spoke]

just got killed by another guy

3 dark combo kills the sun very quickly

i dont have jellie in dino and it has 444 toys

[flat crane]

I usually go rellix, arachnes and candle to kill it quickly

[waxen spoke]

aracness a1 for me. if i donate i can go a3, but it still is not enough. has no jellie and 540 toys

im not a whale. im a dolphin so i only go new banners till a7

[flat crane]

Mine is A7 but needs a 3rd toy to be a little stronger

All the ideias I have always lack 1 familiar 🤬

I was thinking alynx instead of Kona but the synergy might not be great
Them you have cactus as well but I still don't know if he is that good on FA

[waxen spoke]

cactus is good against water fams

[flat crane]

Right now most water familiars are on the back line so idk if he will perform

[waxen spoke]

are you home?

[flat crane]

Yea, just got here

[waxen spoke]

there is a room below, we can jump there and i show u one match with cactus

my 3 grass fams against his 3 fire + suriyu and hippo

oh i dont have it anymore

[flat crane]

I can't today, it's my sister birthday and I gotta run. Can we do it on Sunday night perhaps?

[waxen spoke]

so what happened is that cactus jumped on hippo

and didi 50% and then stag pulled it and it died

[vocal warren]

Can anyone give me a pointers for my setup in familiar arena

Much appreciated

I'm a little bit new to this and I'm also on the new server

[waxen spoke]

ebon, disbelief, shrimpaler, mite and suriyu

my opinion. let's hear the others

[tawdry coyote]

I am here for a bit of time after having checked out the content and climbed back to similar position.

I will still not be returning permanently to game, as that was never my intention. Nonetheless, hi y'all!

@shell grail @topaz shoal

Dunno if Miku and the others permayeeted too, but managed to get to 15th from top 8% (outside top 250) in 4 days.

In GP.

FA is still FA. Nothing to write home about.

[shell grail]

welcome back and gn

[tawdry coyote]

Gngn. I'm only here for a short stay, haha.

[flat crane]

Mine is currently at aw2 but I had really good luck with toys for him. I think he has potential
Might test him once I get higher aw and finish to lvl with jellies

[waxen spoke]

I love my stag)

@tawdry coyote nica to have you back

Loving 2 grass healers Def combo?

[tawdry coyote]

That won't be viable again in NA with tree people already massive whaled unlocked 3 skills every slot at high rank all A10 rares.

My friend in Asia said same thing. There is big whale community in his server too.

Until trees even out, most of those gimmick teams are dead, a lot of kill comps will probably be very viable right now.

Tunnelers, fast initial casters, and by second cast matches are usually done. So Toko for the time being is phased out, at least for GP.

So higher priority than Taurex like Flutterby, so the tunnelers, Hobgob, Dururu, Cactus, if they ever add Purrloiner, are/will be good.

Relixx is much better now since it has fast initial cast compared to a lot of the other traditional AoE tech/cc like Hippo, Alynx, Stag, etc.

[tawdry coyote]

I'm just here to answer a few questions and give general opinions, then I'll head out again. I'm not coming back to game, just thought I'd give pointers while GP and tree is still unfamiliar in FA.

[waxen spoke]

@tawdry coyote what 15 familiars can you point out currently that are most fitted into the fam arena?

[tawdry coyote]

For a new player? For a spender? At any awakening? From story?

RGB attackers are good staples if you played from the start, along with the GB rare counterparts minimum A7 for any rares A10 for normals if you want to top 30 in a mild spending server. Sunshine, Taurex, Dururu, Cactus, Alynx, Relixx, Squibby, Shrimpaler, Kona, Puffu.

Add Bear to list

Close runner-ups but a bit niche: Rimu (probably deserves to be on list), Flutterby, Arachnes, current Toko, Molten Lion, Disbeleaf, etc.,

This is also assuming you have reasonable toys, fully gummied, decent skills, etc.

Otherwise ofc. you should change stuff

[flat crane]

Nice pointers. We need to start preparing cause this one everyone is still all over the place but the next ones are gonna be hard

I'm thinking about reseting my tree points. Any suggestions?

[tawdry coyote]

Haven't seen your stuff.

[flat crane]

Wait a sec, I'll put here my familiars

[tawdry coyote]

You probably posted while I was away. Gonna yeet again too though, lol.

One thing I want to point out @waxen spoke is that although having 15 generally good familiars is, well... good, certain team compositions trump others. Using some "not-so-great" or "runner-ups" in conjunction are sometimes more potent than two generically goods.

[flat crane]

Here are mine

[tawdry coyote]

Oh dang, A7 Arachnes, one of my favorites

[flat crane]

I really love arachnes, was my first rare 😁

[tawdry coyote]

Unfortunately, its viability is only if it can cast

Mine is A10

Along with a few others

[flat crane]

Oof, A10 must hit like a truck

[tawdry coyote]

It's pretty potent.

[flat crane]

On GP I use her in dark team and has been destroying everything that gets in the way 😅

[tawdry coyote]

I mean I quit a month ago, but a truck is a truck. Came back Tuesday to check out stuff.

[flat crane]

It's the bad thing about this game. The Devs are completely careless and are destroying what could be a really good one

[tawdry coyote]

I use her in my throw away team.

In GP

But in FA, in my main teams

[flat crane]

FA I'm currently running the stall team. Can't compete any other way against all the A10 whales 😅

[tawdry coyote]

Just relies on too much support cc protect that I need for other teams to keep top 15. Literally just hit today.

Ugh

A10 whales usually don't know wtf they're doing cause they just spend.

It's usually a small percentage that are extremely skilled.

[flat crane]

Yea, I have to agree. I see some teams and I just start laughing 😂

But yea I agree, arachnes although is really strong needs too much protection and not that viable

[tawdry coyote]

Too bad you don't have A10 butterfree

Would help out a lot with Arachnes

[flat crane]

I'm missing one more copy

[tawdry coyote]

I use it purely for FA comp

[flat crane]

And I have kinda good toys for her

What team are you using on FA btw?

Oh damn that seem op

[tawdry coyote]

Toko too slow for this cycle

[flat crane]

All A10?

[tawdry coyote]

On old team

[flat crane]

I don't like Toko that much, only use him cause of meta 😅

[tawdry coyote]

Hippo A9 and Stag only A7

But everything else A10

Cat, Bunnybot, Arachnes, etc

One was old guildmate so deleted, forgot.

Right now meta is faster=better until trees even out

And gummies even out

Then things will go back

Maybe since a lot of EU is lower spender then NA, it's a bit different and NA is lower spender than SEA, but from what my friends in AS have said, it's pretty much same meta as in NA.

[flat crane]

I don't go deep into familiar banners cause I usually only get copies at pitty

[topaz shoal]

Hello @tawdry coyote

[tawdry coyote]

Not worth, save for one really nice familiar that you like. Maybe Gem when it gets released.

I like the Lazer beams

[tawdry coyote]

[topaz shoal]

Who is gem

[tawdry coyote]

Light shoop da whoop

[topaz shoal]

Mmm ty for explen

[tawdry coyote]

Np

[topaz shoal]

[tawdry coyote]

https://youtu.be/7U-BaL-7PpI

[topaz shoal]

Wait thats gem

I thought thats sap dragon

[tawdry coyote]

Well

Japanese is Gem

Idk

Or wait for this to never come out lol

Yawn (?) Dunno how they'll translate it to English

[topaz shoal]

did you have the chance on looking at the new toys?

[tawdry coyote]

Yup

[topaz shoal]

getting them is very annoying

[flat crane]

That yawn I heard about, seems pretty nice.
But someone was talking the other day about crit dog or something like that

[tawdry coyote]

Crit dog???

Are they referring to same game (?)

[flat crane]

I think so

I think it was a fire familiar

[tawdry coyote]

That's not a dog

[topaz shoal]

Crot dog?? Lmao

Crit*

[topaz shoal]

[torn loom]

"current" toko sounds like there will be a replacement for him in the future?

[tawdry coyote]

Well with the state of where imbalance is. People are either skewed one way or another, so it's viable to go full killer comp and beat a heal stall comp, because those need damage mitigation. Until players are more evened out on closer to 500-600 and higher trees, Toko is a slow caster.

Faster cast is really important at this time, so Relixx is way better now, than it was during release.

[torn loom]

Ah ok thanks

[tawdry coyote]

Flutterby therefore has application now since it has faster initial cast than Taurex, but will lose playability come evening out of advanced gummies and trees.

Toko eventually comes back although A10 squibby provides that nice damage mitigation and full team heal. I don't know if we ever get petal for aspd or Purrloiner for water tunneler with -def

[waxen spoke]

I know this, man) Even though you can have a great team, someone simply can have a counter and if you face him - ull fail.

Today I changed my GA teams for a little bit

Because I kept on loosing. I was top 200 in the morning! Then changed up and became top 100. We have a couple of days left till they break down everyone into brackets

[waxen spoke]

I've beaten this guy with 3 fire fams, hehe

[waxen spoke]

I think that next familiar will be Petal. She is worth investing, so I'd go for her. And I personally will make her a7 for the event - minimum

[flat crane]

Oh nice. What setup did you end up using?

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane

[flat crane]

I'm gonna reset this. I went completely dumb when I defined these 🥲

[flat crane]

Kona on front held for much time? 😳

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane def up)

[flat crane]

How do you have yours?

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane 444 toys on it

[flat crane]

Oh wow mite died and Kona no 😅

I'm guessing his stag disappeared in seconds no? 😅

[waxen spoke]

But mite did his job - canceled 1st stag

No, my mite died 1st. I was 4v5, but then his toko died, then shrimp, then stag. His stag lived for 45seconds

[flat crane]

Well at least he didn't died for nothing 😅

[shell grail]

My Bunny will be A7 soon, should I save the rare 6s for her?
or normal 6s will be enough?

hesitate to pick rare 6s between Bunny and Shrimp

or to A7 Squibby (race with bunny)

[regal ledge]

The meta has changed and it’s not possible to climb with my current familiars ☹️ sad

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail idk, no one is using bunny on my server. If I were you, I'd picked a toy for squibby, not for bunny.

@tawdry coyote what are his skills? Active and passive

[waxen spoke]

Game is 300+ days, so even on EU in top 10 - all rare fams are all a8+. Maybe even a9+

@regal ledge show us your fams, we will try to arrange you new def and give a couple of pointers on what to use in attack

[waxen spoke]

@regal ledge come on! You are a lier🤣

U have a9 stag, a9 bunny and a10 squiby...like top def fams. For def try relix, lynx, stag, bunny, squiby. If won't work that great, switch relix to shrimp and lynx to toko.

[regal ledge]

I think I have a toy problem or got the wrong buff from the familiar tree

Def is not a problem to stay in top10 but attacking is the problem .. can’t find the right comp to beat sunshine, Arachnes, lynx, shrimp and Ebon

[waxen spoke]

U have a10 lynx, and relix, so u definitely need attack speed up and attack up on a45+

• stag

[regal ledge]

Tried that..

[waxen spoke]

• shrimp on the back among with relix and lynx. And the last fam u choose yourself

It can be sun though

Can be Toko

But I'd go for sun probably. This is speaking about attack.

Also, you can attack those who are not top 3 you know? So u win for sure and get points. Since u don't get attacked too much due to strong def - best options is to farm those who u r guaranteed to destroy

[thorny herald]

Lol. We're on the same server. 😅👌 Hello there!

[flat crane]

After talking with bunny yesterday I decided to do some changes on my GP teams.
Thoughts?

[spring forum]

Today I beat him hehe

[spring forum]

I can help you

[spring forum]

Yea you need good toys try this way Relix, lynx & shrimp in back line. Stag and ebon in front line or else sunshine ☀️ this way you can beat many comps but if the enemy team is with double healer use ebon and in front raw another strong atk familiar. Coz to take down teams with 2 healers you require lot of fire power

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum to kill enemy healers u don't need ebon. U need stag to pull them together and AOE hard. Also u need mite if he has stag, to block his pull

[torn loom]

Help me please for FA (atk,def) and GP (team1,2,3)

[thorny herald]

What is/are your current lineup on FA and GP?

For FA, stall team might be good because of your high awakened support and defense familiars. That's my opinion.

Having at least level 20 Bonding Tree would be a great help to use 2 power up bonds at the same time.

For FA, you may try this.

2 def fam and 3 support backline. Sample line up: 1Ebon, 2Sunshine, 3Shrimpaler, 4Disbeleaf, 5Toko. Bonding tree: Attack Weakening or Frontline Reinforcment and Fruit of Protection.

For GP, you can make use of @flat crane lineup and adjust the other familiars.

[thorny herald]

Sample Team 1: Mite or Sore Boar, Stag, Oroboros or Splisher, Hippo, Bougie" Power Up: Fruit of Protection." Team 2: Ebon, Sunshine, Toko, Suiryu, Splisher or Oroboros "Power Up: Backline Reinforcement or Attack Weakening." Team 3: Sore Boar or Mite, Molten, Disbeleaf, Shrimpaler, Hog Goblin "Power Up: Elemental Synergy." PS: You can experiment on your own, what kind of power-up to use.

Lol. I did not send and slept haha.

Let's hear other opinions also. I know that I'm not that good and I'm just an F2P player but still currently sitting in the top 30'sh-100 on FA and Top 6% only on GP. I just shared my thoughts. Thanks!

[flat crane]

Idk if anything could be changed on my GP teams

[thorny herald]

I would say that disbeleaf is good to partner for dururu for the frostbite debuff. But that's optional though.

For your fire elemental synergy.

[spring forum]

I don’t have stag man

[flat crane]

Didn't though about that. But I need another healer because if I take disb from that team it will lack one

[thorny herald]

Yeah, it's just optional and my suggestion only. xD Your team composition is still great right now. 😁👌

[flat crane]

Thanks, I think that for now should be ok to get at least place but I don't think I'll go far in the brackets

[topaz shoal]

Why bother censoring name

Number 1 guy is oscar

[regal ledge]

Sounds good, but my shrimp 5s toys only…

[regal ledge]

Hello!! Who’s this ?

[regal ledge]

Who beats Arachnes as a melee?

[thorny herald]

I just did what @regal ledge had. Kinda sign of respect for me. Why bother? 😅👌

[thorny herald]

Just a mere NNK player who also enjoys the Fam Arena. 😅 Shout out to Rapyuta KD

[regal ledge]

Tried that but unfortunately my shrimp is not good enough to sustain..

[rugged bridge]

Daddy oscar? thats some chesee, huge diff points
no.2 gonna be germanii i think, lmao

[topaz shoal]

Oscar is crazy

[waxen spoke]

Climbed to 56 GA. Hope I make it top 30 by the end of the season. I made some good teams

@regal ledge she is a dark type nuker. +melee type. In order to kill her u need to debuff her, hit and heal. She has high attack, so 1v1 her is impossible. U need to use tank and kill her from the distance.

I play like this currently

[rugged bridge]

Puffu kinda scary, even its not paired with suiryu or hippo

that aoe damage pretty constant, and u have it a7 so nice

[regal ledge]

How to debuff her ?

[topaz shoal]

Sun

[flat crane]

Agree, he hits like a truck and the debuf is annoying

[torn loom]

Any succession for the builds of my friend (He is Close to top256) in gran prix

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom hard one. You don't have a good selection of the fams

[torn loom]

Asked him If He have other familiar left. Waiting for His answer 🙂

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom I've sent my comps, you can inspire and see what I'm using

[small basin]

where can i see the effects of 6s rare toys?

[waxen spoke]

@small basin

[vocal warren]

What should I get here? Im on a new server right now

Best for familiar arena

I have 1 copy of bunnybot. should I get another one

[waxen spoke]

id take kona, because he is great for current 2 grass heal meta and he is super viable in pvp

oh, on new server u dont have toko...

go hippo) best fam for u there. because people play mite+shrimp

u use suriyu with hippo

my opinion, lets hear the others

[vocal warren]

thanks

[topaz shoal]

hehw hen did you get?

or where

[vocal warren]

nothing yet I'm just going to keep it for now

[waxen spoke]

Kona damage and my healing
I managed to defend myself. That Kona is a10 666

[waxen spoke]

This girl is ready to rock😁

+300, 555

[thorny herald]

what are your toys on your monkey? 666?

That's a lot of healing also. 🤩

[waxen spoke]

@thorny herald 456, 566 soon, tomorrow from temple

[flat crane]

Do you guys think we can jump on vocal tonight? Did a few stupid attacks and got shafted yesterday 🥲

[waxen spoke]

"jump on vocal" what do u mean by that?

[flat crane]

Voice chat, I want to share my screen to see what I'm doing wrong on my attacks

Went down 20 spots yesterday cause of poor attacks

[vocal warren]

Are you top 1 on your server? That kona is a beast btw

[vocal warren]

@flat crane Can I come and join you guys. So I can get some tips and info

[waxen spoke]

Im the 5th currently

[vocal warren]

What's your top1 setup looks like

[waxen spoke]

that relix has rare toy

[vocal warren]

Is relix a really good familiar for FA?

And shrimp I see that a lot of people him. How good is he anyway? I wasn't really invested in him

[waxen spoke]

If u use it as the only dark type fam - it is not in my opinion. As I could see, it's damage is pretty low and it can be killed by the sun in 1v1 scenario. Auroralynx seems to kill it as well in 1v1. But if u pair her with the other dark type fam - she can be great. The only problem, that there are only 2 fams currently that can make her shine: Levitun and Rimu

[flat crane]

If there is people yea sure

[waxen spoke]

Oh, and Aracness!

[vocal warren]

That's good to know

[shell grail]

how can u forget the bull?

[vocal warren]

Arach is good too?

[shell grail]

need at least A7 to be usable

all rare, probably

[vocal warren]

So if it's not a7 yet should I just put it on the side and not use them for the time being ?

[waxen spoke]

The reason why i did not mention him because he is a tank and does not deal much damage. Relixx gives a debuf, that busts dark attacks, but since bull is not strong - damage won't increase too much

But Rimu...he is a completely different story

It's a dark type tant that has vests, since he is a tank + he sets fear and deals so much damage, like damage dealer!

Rumu is OP grade fam on fam arena

[vocal warren]

Good stuff bro

[shell grail]

but investment needed

[waxen spoke]

I counted. I need 9 copies to get him from absolute 0 to a7. I can buy 4 a month, so i need 3 month. Even consider if i win some asterite here or there, ill still need to buy like 300k asterite

[shell grail]

16 in total, from zero to A10

[waxen spoke]

a7 will be enough on fam arena

i think ill buy 2 tomorrow

will start the journey, hehe

crab also is great btw

but crab is tank, if crab was support - oh my...!

[vocal warren]

How great is the question

I'm interested in rimu

I can do 4 a month

[waxen spoke]

crab is more of a PvP oriented fam. the thing is that his ult converts opponents into pumpkens on fam arena for 5 seconds, so they cant do anything, but it doesnt deal any damage

[vocal warren]

Not good enough

[waxen spoke]

But on a10 his ult must proc every 15 seconds as i believe

so opponent goes scilent for 5 every 15

[vocal warren]

Who else is the heavy Nuke in the game

Bro thanks for all the info

[waxen spoke]

usually on the back row u can find toko and shrimp

so one of them goes death for 5

[vocal warren]

I have shrimp but I'm not invested in him. Is he that good?

[waxen spoke]

Nukers are those who deal a lot at once. Like Suriyu, hippo, oroboros, rimu, dino, goblin, aracness, firelynx and the others

[vocal warren]

Great stuff. I appreciate you @waxen spoke

[waxen spoke]

@rancid thicket read this thread

Fam arena discussion is here

[flat crane]

Are you going pets over PvP gear?

Cause I was considering either to start building crab or rimu

My grand Prix teams are almost ready but I fell like these 2 would be good additions

Specially rimu

[spring forum]

That guy must have run out of time with you having those 3 healers hehehe

[spring forum]

On 3 slot !!!??

[spring forum]

Best healer in my opinion it’s not every time how much he heal it’s also about how he focus on healing

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum no, just one. 6r66

[flat crane]

Have to agree, shrimpaler is insane

[waxen spoke]

Squiby will ask shrimp to hold his beer. Because of the 40% guaranteed damage reduction

And if u play sun+squiby - no comments

[flat crane]

Yea, squiby is the look forward to get

[shell grail]

got an egg today, still hold for tomorrow to get a RNG egg

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail I'm doing the same thing:) but I have 2 or 3 days till the selection egg. I 1st gonna open a random one and then open the one I can choose from. But I think, I'll still go for Squibby

[flat crane]

I'm just praying to all the gods in existence to get a squiby

[flat crane]

Last push, let's see how it ends 💪🏽

[shell grail]

VS 2076 on Asia

too competitive

[flat crane]

Jezz. How much does the top1 has over there?

[shell grail]

2142, not that far.
as I said, too competitve

[lusty cargo]

can atk on grand prix now?

to get the rare?

[shell grail]

not atk, predict the result from the group stage, which begin tomorrow

[torn loom]

Tips for 3 Gran prix builds? Thanks for the replys

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom nah, we don't want smart opponents on GA😄

[torn loom]

[tawdry coyote]

Best build in Grand Prix is $100,000+

[shell grail]

need your opinion, in PM

[tawdry coyote]

Oh sure

[shell grail]

@tawdry coyote his skill worked diff from KR, should be bugged, right?

[tawdry coyote]

When I see my friend in GP was working fine.

[shell grail]

lets me try him again on Adventure

still bugged

hopefully to be fixed by tmr patch

[thick pier]

Would anyone suggest composition for the arena ? I'm so lost when it comes to arena... I reached legend 2k points in the new mode.. but the normal arena I'm gold D;'

[flat crane]

How are your toys on the leveled familiars?

[thick pier]

oroboros has its own toy 3x 6 stars, mite has its own toy 3x 5 star... but the others has a generic 4 and 5 star of their class

[tawdry coyote]

How are they not A10?

Especially sunshine?

Why are A0 rares full gummy?

[rugged bridge]

@thick pier

[timid rivet]

Any chance for top 15% with these familiars? I have 4 sr selection eggs + nearly 300 of each gummies too. Currently very stuck in the ~20% range

[shell grail]

upgrade your Sunshine

save those rare eggs

should not be hard for u to reach top15%, EU is less competitive than Asia
your squad have potential to reach that, once u learn how to set up your team

[timid rivet]

Save eggs for what? Mainly not using them because I don't know what I'll need

And any tips on the team setup? currently using this for both def and attack, because I simply dont have any better ideas

[shell grail]

attacking team depend on your enemy's lineup
told u to raise Sunshine, he's the meta

[timid rivet]

Sunshine replace who? One attacker?

[shell grail]

maybe ebon sunshine front, suiryu toko mite back

forget your weak Hippo

[timid rivet]

okay thanks, will be testing that out

[shell grail]

for the eggs, if u cant A7, then save them

[waxen spoke]

Depends on what competition u r looking for. Top 10 EU still people have a9+ rare fams

Fused 6st toy today and got a toy for Puffu. A7 665 now

[royal copper]

What would be the best option for this?

[waxen spoke]

@timid rivet OK best setup for u, pal: shrimp, toko, Disbelief, sun and bull

@royal copper I went fam arena

Sebastián

[royal copper]

Ahhh I see

[waxen spoke]

But u choose

The last reward at sebastian is choosable?

[royal copper]

Random Toy

[waxen spoke]

If it's a random toy - I made a mistake

[royal copper]

Sebastian

Marina

Tumba

I think the most value in the Sebastian one is the Toy Combine

[waxen spoke]

I went Sebastian because of the instruments. But it's totally random. Tumba gives dolls. Dolls are great

[royal copper]

Whereas Marina guarantees you a 4 star higgledy

[waxen spoke]

U need 100 instruments to fuse a 6st rare

[royal copper]

Yepppp exactly why im kinda leaning towards it too

[waxen spoke]

But it will be a random rare. I got a feather and it sucks

[torn loom]

Are you PvP focused? marinas isnt bad too

[royal copper]

I'm not too far off from higgledies atm I think it'll mainly be for promoting for me

[torn loom]

Ah ok Go sebastian then

[waxen spoke]

I don't do higgledies at all

Like I use what I have

[royal copper]

Because I can already reach max potential on atk/crit as well as have high dark atk since they're all 10

[torn loom]

They give an nice element atk buff

[waxen spoke]

Today got 48k asterite from the season reward^^

[royal copper]

I think sebastian would be the way to go, I need to up my familiars more

[torn loom]

congrats

[royal copper]

Idk what to do with my asterite rewards atm lol

[shell grail]

$21 for a RNG rare egg, what do u guys think?

[waxen spoke]

Fused it with instruments, great stuff

@shell grail I think that it's beautiful

I already bought today's bundle

Went for dolls

[shell grail]

yeah, prob all dolls

[royal copper]

I'm going all dolls on mine

[waxen spoke]

Use Philliphines store - the cheapest one, hehe

[royal copper]

You get enough for the growth chest

[waxen spoke]

Will be 19$ there

The new prepare for Petal shop they made is so expensive to get to the last chest! 280$

I understand if both rare boxes were not random

Imagine if u open the 1st one and get a rare highledie instead of stag or cactus or weapon?🤣

I'd be very disappointed

[shell grail]

skip

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail I would've buy from it if not the random chest there. Because I could make a8 cactus or a10 stag tomorrow

But yea, skip

[dusky wind]

what is the best shiny familiar toy to get? one for offense, defense or support?

[waxen spoke]

Defence probably stag or rimu. Offense extremely variable, can be relix, a.lynx, cactus. Support Squibby or Toko. IMHO.

@dusky wind ☝️

I got a regular 6 toy for monkey from the box today

[flat crane]

@waxen spoke how's your bracket looking on GP?

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane haven't placed my fams there yet

[flat crane]

I mean who did you got in there

I'm still deciding what I'm gonna use

[waxen spoke]

Idk, many names, don't know everyone

I'm in bracket P, so I guess, when there will be winners, those winners will also be split into brackets

[flat crane]

Mine is looking like this

I remember matching with this guy but idk if I won or not

[shell grail]

@ionic lotus try here

[ionic lotus]

thanks mate!!!! preciate it!!

[waxen spoke]

kolache is top 2 or 3 on fam arena on my server. most rare fams are a10

aqioeq also from my server top 10 AF

[flat crane]

If I'm lucky I can maybe I can win the first 2 games but idk

[ionic lotus]

can someone help me to build my deck?

for attack deck and deff deck for fam arena

[keen verge]

He fat

[thick pier]

I'm f2p and I'm not sure if I am lucky or unlucky... So I never got enough to get an awake 10... The only one full is the bunny because I got it when I started to play and knew less than I know now

[flat crane]

Are you still able to define your teams? Mine is not letting me

[waxen spoke]

@flat crane u did set my team. Now it's locked

People vote. I voted for myself, but I think my chances are 70/30

I picked a wrong toy today from a 6st box. Had to give it to cactus not bunnybot

[flat crane]

I wanted to change something, I didn't do it on time 🥲

Let's see how it goes