After reaching the very first kill threshold for elizabeth to transform, no amount of kills seem to retrigger the transformation, I then tested this on Impostor, Menya, and Olrox, and they are all able to trigger effects as normal. This glitch seems to be just limited to elizabeth, i can provide video documentation of full runs with every megalo character, if that would help?
#[VAS-4231] Elizabeth Bartley Cannot Transform Into Megalo Elizabeth After the First Time It Happens
small sage
small sage
impostor was harder to get on video, but here is a screenshot of the same run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-46fFgU2hk
and here is a (failed) elizabeth run, longer than the discord upload limit
rancid plaza
[VAS-4231] Elizabeth Bartley Cannot Transform Into Megalo Elizabeth After the First Time It Happens
serene fjord
I ran into the same issue just now. I was doing runs with her I can get one transformation and no matter how quickly I kill stuff she wont transform
lean ridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-46fFgU2hk
and here is a (failed) elizabeth ru...
I finally had a spot of time to check that youtube clip. Ive ran into a similar but technically different situation and am now curious. Could you, or @serene fjord do a little test and see if she can transform again if she drops out of the transformation before she hits the second kill threshold?
My issue is that she can still transform, but only if she drops out before reaching the next threshold. Though the clip does make me wonder if its a different issue, since theres no animation that plays for her transformation while transformed...
If youre not sure about what the thresholds are its 1k, 3k, 5k, 7k, 9k, 11k, 13k, and 15k (then every 15k, so 30, 45, 60, etc)
serene fjord
I finally had a spot of time to check that youtube clip. Ive ran into a similar ...
Yea i can run a test is there any specific cards or weapons I should run her with or just whatever? The only time I've been able to get her to transform again is if she died.
lean ridge
Yea i can run a test is there any specific cards or weapons I should run her wit...
I ran several different cards and weapons and had the same recurring issue, so i dont think its related to the cards or weapons. I did run on Capella when i had this issue though (though admittedly i dont really play her often)
Ill have to test to see if she can transform again if she dies
serene fjord
I'll run her through every stage same weapons/cards each time
lean ridge
Just did another run on cappella, i could not get her to transform again after death. However i can still get her to transform if she fails to hit the next threshold before her transformation runs out.
lean ridge
Had the same result on Mad Forest
serene fjord
When i did capella for the secret with her she would transform after each death. I would let her die upon resurrecting and getting enough kills she would transform again. So far I've done mad forest and now library both runs she's only transformed twice and I woyld hit 3k kills while she was still transformed
lean ridge
What about if she wasnt transformed at 3k?
serene fjord
I'm gonna do mad forest again and remove all curse and enemy count mods and see if I can get multiple transforms
lean ridge
oh gdi xD thats smart. I forgot that was even an option. I was using solo garlic with astronomia to not break the thresholds early. (if you take her second or third weapon option, you can skip the pick and just start with whatever on next level up)
serene fjord
I was using 6 weapons. So ill stick to that for the moment
Ok so we are getting somewhere first transformation ended before 3k kills and when I hit 3k she transformed again
lean ridge
Sounds like a similar result then :D
serene fjord
Indeed. What is the next threshold after 3k?
lean ridge
I finally had a spot of time to check that youtube clip. Ive ran into a similar ...
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every 2k up to 15k then its every 15k
serene fjord
Ok id didnt get one at 5k or any threshold after that
lean ridge
Ok id didnt get one at 5k or any threshold after that
Its 1k, then 3k, then 5k. From my testing, if she is transformed while passing over any threshold, it breaks the transformation
Or in different words, she needs to drop out of transformation before hitting any of the thresholds, or it breaks.
serene fjord
Seems like it because until I removed curse and charm I havent been able to get another transformation cause I was killing too fast while transformed
lean ridge
yeah xD I had to sit still and not move. Shes just too good at killing :P until you want her to kill really fast, then the enemies stop spawning so fast
serene fjord
Lol. Im gonna run mad forest again with one weapon see I can get transforms at 5k onward
lean ridge
ye! I still recommend garlic. the first several minutes are just bats, which garlic munches on well enough that you dont have to move. Should let you build up xp around you, so when youre ready to break the transformation, you can pretty much at will
serene fjord
I've been using gale force. Transforms at 3k and 5k so far. Hit both when she wasn't transformed
Sadly hit 7k when she was transformed so nothing and when hitting 9k still no transformation
small sage
I can't test this today, I'm in bed sick
serene fjord
I can't test this today, I'm in bed sick
That sucks, feel better soon
lean ridge
Sadly hit 7k when she was transformed so nothing and when hitting 9k still no tr...
Definitely seems to line up with my experiences. The moment she transforms while transformed, it totally breaks. Which means its replicable! Huzzah :D
My guess is theres a linear counter for her transformation that subtracts instead of resets.
Basically something like her base form is 0, and when she passes a threshold, it ticks up to 1, and triggers the transformation. Theres probably an if statement nested in there that makes it so she doesnt change form if shes already transformed (something like: if (transform >= 1){dont do anything}
So when she hits the second threshold while transformed, the tick goes up to 2, and then when she drops out of the transformation, the tick goes down to 1 instead of resetting to 0. So as far as the codes concerned, shes still transformed, and so when the next threshold is hit, it does nothing.
Thats my assumption tho without looking at the code. Its probably something along those lines.
Theres definitely some other strangeness with it too. Sometimes while transformed, itll reset the timer, and sometimes it wont and she'll drop out after the initial timer. Both seem to break her equally the same though.
serene fjord
Yea something where hitting the threshold while transformed causes an issue. Hopefully there is a fix for her or and adjustment that let's her transform more consistently.
small sage
beta branch seems to have this fixed
lean ridge
awsum :D
The thread i started got marked earlier today, so that might be why P:
serene fjord
Patch today. Just looked at patch notes and Elizabeth has been fixed