JOKE suggestions (free for anyone to post their ideas here)

[final ferry]

I think Garlic Paradice tried to be that, but yeah, I would love that as well.

[heady fulcrum]

no like, just straight up 1.0

every character, weapon, and stage in 1.0 is there with nothing from a version above (unless you use planar bazaar)

in the theoretical situation this gets added though PLEASE no unlock associated with beating it LOL

considering it'd be way longer

[final ferry]

(Tbf you could just simulate that today with Mega Seal and the restraint to not pick any characters/stages/Arcanas from afterwards)

[heady fulcrum]

fair enough

tbh main reason im suggesting this is because of the game's grand total of one (1) save file/profile

[final ferry]

Yeah, I do think one or two more saves would be a nice addition to the game as well, though I think there's a much more elegant and debatably less redundant solution than a 1.0 adventure.

[heady fulcrum]

constantly torn between "i think playing adventures like the early game (no arcanas, hyper, planar bazaar, etc) would be a neat way to re-expereince the early game" and "haha ascension go weeeeeee"

do NOT ask miang moonspell what she bought in planar bazaar (lifesign scan and mini ghost)

[final ferry]

I honestly just use all the Relics and tools available in Adventures, with the exception of the Bazaar due the fact it... kinda... ruins the point? Like, if you can just get whatever weapon you want, what's the point of even playing Adventures, which purposefully limit your weapon choices?

[heady fulcrum]

im torn on the bazaar because, yeah it partly ruins the point of adventures limiting your potential loadout, but also buying lifesign scan to get paranormal scan is funny

[final ferry]

It's funny, no doubt, but a bit too funny imo. Adventures aren't meant to be overly funny, that's what the base game is for.

[heady fulcrum]

that's a good way of looking at it i think

[final ferry]

(Though I am a hypocrite because I use ||Darkanas|| on Adventures lol)

[wheat spire]

Reverse arcana that removes 2% growth, luck, curse, and greed every level

This will help nobody and cost billions

[quasi ginkgo]

new boss that works like inverted infinite corridor .... he doubles every enemy hp on the screen after some seconds and while he is alive, that skill just don't work on himself and on the char.

[wheat spire]

no that actually sounds cool what are you doing

[dull torrent]

A character where when you are using them all enemies are a random enemy, your weapons and passives are randomized every level (but evolutions can only go to evolutions etc), and your stats are randomized in a smaller range than missingnos (changing every level)
and also your arcana are randomized by default

[earnest badger]

true random

unlocked by beating inverse green acres with one weapon on random

[radiant junco]

add the centurion cats as a quartet character

https://tenor.com/view/cat-centurion-roman-soldier-sword-gif-6943842504016808159

[wheat spire]

WHY DO THEY KEEP FOLLOWING ME

[woven dust]

Add lemonade weapon to the game (a lemon in the shape of a grenade)

[coral fulcrum]

yes past:does the opposite of no future

[mystic pecan]

not getting hit procs it?

[coral fulcrum]

also it does the opposite of bouncing on the sides and walls and expploding when that happens

it now stops moving on walls and implodes every time it doesn't touch any obstacle

[mystic pecan]

so it's just a black hole

like the opposite of an explosion just sucks stuff in

I think

[coral fulcrum]

you throw an infinite imploder until it hits a wall, also you choose where you aim it to have it be more different

[viscid ridge]

so like atmotorpedo

[mystic pecan]

idk what that does

I used it once for the unlock

[coral fulcrum]

no, it constantly implodes, it stops when it hits a wall, unlike atmo torpedo which goes to a place and then sucks things in

[mystic pecan]

so the projectile stops completely after hitting a wall?

[coral fulcrum]

yes

[mystic pecan]

after hitting a wall it's just a stationary implosion

[coral fulcrum]

no it stops imploding

[mystic pecan]

ah

[coral fulcrum]

also to make it less projectily make it look similar to melio confodere since we want to make it as different as possible from no future

[mystic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-nod-gif-21426973

[wheat spire]

Gremonade

[dull torrent]

wicked season for area/duration/projectile speed/might

[quasi ginkgo]

wicked aura

[wheat spire]

Garlic aura

[dull torrent]

All projectiles gain garlic auras that scale on damage with your Garlic level.
Listed Projectiles gain Soul Eater auras instead

[ebon forge]

||add conquest exploding blood heart||

[earnest badger]

Make garlic have 100 more levels

[echo lintel]

cat centurion

[mystic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-centurion-roman-soldier-sword-gif-6943842504016808159

[wheat spire]

Killing you

[mystic pecan]

nuh uh

[coral fulcrum]

add 252+ spa choice specs beads of ruin tera fire chi yu with overheat

[mystic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-wuh-guh-guh-wuh-buh-gif-4736363263471474786

[coral fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-pokemon-pokemon-chi-yu-incineroar-gif-16273793683495098877

[mystic pecan]

guh

[wheat spire]

648- YpF smarp sheeb teeb flarps Ivy imbued chishi Overclock VS. 836± 9(52-17x) GaB Pikachu in Moon: 726 to 815 (five) -- guaranteed GAMEOVER

idk I made that up

[mystic pecan]

what are you two talking about

[wheat spire]

Did it make enough sense

[echo lintel]

no but its the joke thread so it fits

[wheat spire]

if you can beat Troussou before your maximum HP reaches 1000 then you should be fine, but the poison rain makes the fight a huge issue if you focus on defense rather than DPS

[echo lintel]

biscuit draculo

[craggy trail]

a billion lions

[ebon forge]

pokemon

[ebon forge]

weapon is lion ladder

[wheat spire]

Me.

[dull torrent]

recently after seeing evolved javelin this feels like slightly less of a bad idea (it still sucks)

[dull torrent]

very finite staircase, evolved by having a diamond bracelet and ruby bracelet with , that doubles all enemies on screens hp and your max hp every 20 seconds

[radiant junco]

#1282537472844370001 message

[dull torrent]

technically we can assume this would be possible if quad-bracelet was a thing with a red one though

and that adds another suggestion here for me
add a new bracelet to the tri bracelet every update

[wheat spire]

A single dead pixel that follows the screen

[quasi ginkgo]

history mode where you can only play with poe and the char starts young and keep getting old the more you progress till it reach the actual time of the main game.

[quasi ginkgo]

pre surviving

[quasi ginkgo]

New pick up: Platinum Bacon ... it works like golden eggs but instead of stats it raises the amount of arcanas you can get with your char, for every 10000 times you collect it you can get +1 arcana pick at the beginning of the run.

[coral fulcrum]

If the game runs out of arcanas to choose from, it creates new non-ai generated arcanas.

[prime hornet]

It sends a request to the team of monkeys that wrote all of Shakespeare's plays, and they make a new one.

[quasi ginkgo]

New relic: Stone Machine, allow you to move to pre surviving era mode

[echo lintel]

dr stone collab

[wheat spire]

vampire survivors collab

[final ferry]

Okay, this would actually be really cool; imagine what they could do with characters like Poppea or, heck, even Avatar if they wanna pull from the late game. I would love VS to have a Song of Mana weapon!

[wheat spire]

Godddd Queen Sigma would be so fun if she was in Vampire Survivors

[echo lintel]

(inspired from some #😁vs-memes shenanigans)
cover the entire interface in black so no spoilers can be done

[coral fulcrum]

Do a nintendo music and add a spoiler free version of everything where spoiler sprites, musics, and sound effects, chosen by the player, are censored to add more player control.

[final ferry]

This is kinda just Seals, but for everything lol.

[coral fulcrum]

No, you can still use it, you just can't see or hear it.

[quasi ginkgo]

and yet that would be a pro gameplay, an average normal gameplay we already can't see anything if we are playing the way it should be

[wheat spire]

FUCK i just died to the , I could've beaten if i had

[coral fulcrum]

We also need an all spoilers mode, which telepathically knows what other games you are planning to play/are playing and adds a lot of spoilers for those games in VS.

For example, the game could just put unmissable text that says "Did you know that the main villain of ace attorney investigations 2 is ||Simeon Saint||?".

[final ferry]

O'Sole's morph becomes (Inscryption spoilers) ||Leshy, spoiling his true tree-like appearance. Bonus points if the other Scrybes are referenced in some way.||

[coral fulcrum]

The tasks in Polus Replica would spoil who the imposter('s) is/are in your next game of Among Us.

[quasi ginkgo]

after all that sacrifice with all spoiled at least one benefit, directer get unspoiled and become playable if you beat everything again like you were in blind mode.

[radiant junco]

credit card relic that adds every adventure merchant to every stage in normal game

[echo lintel]

(semi-serious) add ghastling and happy ghast. i beg you theyre so cute

[echo lintel]

bad eggs
its like bad apple but eggs

[radiant junco]

new healer option that removes all eggs but forces you to watch bad apple displayed via eggs

[tender narwhal]

one loop of bad apple per egg

[echo lintel]

make it a main menu code (idontwanttoseeit or icantseeit)

[wheat spire]

ICANNOTSEEIT

maybe SPOILERSAHEAD

or perhaps

even

[mystic pecan]

another spell that uses the dash or 1 key

[coral fulcrum]

spell with the number 3 (not 2)

[quasi ginkgo]

add a survivor's bank to the game, send sammy to the bank when you go offline, let the profities raise his eggs offline

[echo lintel]

vampire survivors 3
we skip the 2 like mcpixel and goat simulator

[coral fulcrum]

amiibos for every character, including the collab ones. they allow you to have them in co-op or to look at them play the game. you train them like you train amiibos in smash, which is by training them by showing them what they should do.

[final ferry]

Okay, wait, this is actually an amazing idea lol. Obviously not happening with physical figures because... yeah, but I'd unironically love a "Survivor Training" mode where you can have a CPU buddy on runs.

[coral fulcrum]

but think of all of the money that could be gotten from selling the figures (also make them compatible with all versions somehow)

[final ferry]

But think of all the money those figurines will cost to make in the first place lol.

[coral fulcrum]

this would definitely not ruin the concept of getting the entire game (without dlc) when you buy it

[coral fulcrum]

yeah but i want them it would be so awesome

[coral fulcrum]

fleaman should start with capped growth

[final ferry]

Ode Adventure reward: ||Educated Fleaman, learned how to play the game. GK gems now instakill everything, even those immune.||

[coral fulcrum]

including white hand somehow

[tender narwhal]

killing whitehand gets you the true ending where you finally meet bisconte

[mystic pecan]

then you kill bisconte and meet the inventor of ramen noodles

[echo lintel]

then you meet luca in real life

[quasi ginkgo]

and be invited to play vampire survivors 3d edition

[quasi ginkgo]

spoiler : || the pixels get more real ||

[dull torrent]

add a upside down drowner

[coral fulcrum]

add one drowner for every possible degree

[wheat spire]

for realism your tv floods your house with water

https://tenor.com/view/have-you-been-sir-have-you-been-novy-have-you-been-have-you-been-lately-gif-17509219243470666134

[ebon forge]

jarate

[radiant junco]

hail from the future now spawns DLC pickups on applicable characters/maps

sealing pickups will impact the drop chance :)

[echo lintel]

unironically good suggestion

[mystic pecan]

hail can now spawn arcana chests

[viscid ridge]

hail can now spawn literally everything

[mystic pecan]

hail spawns the icon of sin from doom 1993

[echo lintel]

hail can now spawn

heck, hail can now spawn kirby

[coral fulcrum]

you can now get familiar forge in familiar forge

[echo lintel]

you can now get candybox in candyboxes

same goes to all weapon selectors

[coral fulcrum]

candybox 2 has bi bracelet and vol confodere, their third evolutions and other weapons not present in candybox 2 are reserved for candybox 3

[echo lintel]

5-item chests now has a fixed 10% chance to contain 7 items; this guarantees a candybox 3

[hollow ermine]

add sans. he starts with bone, has no character evolution, has 1 max hp, but all his other stats are like queen sigma

[dull torrent]

make a vs themed playing card set

[tender narwhal]

[dull torrent]

i meant a proper irl playing card set
like
queen
king
ace
joker

[tender narwhal]

balatro friends of jimbo

[sweet bay]

that's a tarot deck

[ebon forge]

the directers a dude?

[earnest badger]

Nah nah ||Chaos ||stats

[quasi ginkgo]

more like when we get all darkanas there be a char with all darkanas that has 1 max hp || but crystal Cries alone already solve hp problem not even counting the other darkanas ||

[mystic pecan]

add famous greek philosopher socrates

[quasi ginkgo]

socrates was also a good soccer player, type socrates soccer on google to see he was considered one of the best soccer players in 1983.

[hollow ermine]

Make the balatro cards skins for Poe and Queen Sigma

[echo lintel]

can select 1 more arcana at start of a run

[hollow ermine]

Now we can have 6 arcanas with Queen Sigma

[quasi ginkgo]

all max caps increase 1% per 1 hour of gameplay

[dull torrent]

idk it just fits best to me

[coral fulcrum]

Merriam-Webster crossover

[prime hornet]

Hyperwebster crossover

[radiant junco]

Crossover with the webster-ashburton treaty

Or the treaty of guadalupe-hidalgo

[coral fulcrum]

Those are some weird names for dictionnaires.

[quasi ginkgo]

Vampire Survivors Linux OS, || where the mouse arrow is a garlic, and when you hover a link it changes to poe, when you select a text it changes to peppino ||

[radiant junco]

I just saw the name webster lol

The webster i mentioned and noah webster, the dictionary one, were cousins so

[hollow ermine]

funnily enough, this can be done on the wiki

[sweet bay]

Port Vampire Survivors to Doom and vice versa

[mystic pecan]

can doom run on vs

[coral fulcrum]

doom weapon

[final ferry]

Periodically interrupts your game and pulls up Doom for 10 seconds. Afterwards, temporarily raises your Might in VS, the amount of which is based on how many enemies you killed in Doom. Is effected by Might (increases damage in Doom), Duration (Might buff length), Cooldown, and Curse/Charm (enemy stats + quantity in Doom). Evolves via Spinach into Doom 2, which now emulates Doom 2 for 15 seconds, spawning many more enemies and equipping you with much better weapons.

[mystic pecan]

at -90 cooldown it just pulls up doom forever until you beat the icon of sin for doom 2

for doom 1 its until you beat the spider mastermind

[final ferry]

If you defeat it, you gain a permanent +6666% Might for the rest of the run, and you are no longer interrupted.

[coral fulcrum]

Weapon power-down: removes a revive, levels a weapon down and un-evolve a contra weapon when a chest is taken.

[echo lintel]

[final ferry]

Can only appear when you don't have an Operation Guns weapon.

[prime hornet]

Academy Badger: a familiar forge-type weapon. Moves around and makes annoying noises. Warns enemies of your attacks so they move out of the way.

[echo lintel]

minceraft crossover
not minecraft, minceraft

[coral fulcrum]

minceraft dunegons

[wheat spire]

Hail spawns one bat

[wheat spire]

Street fighter the movie the game

[coral fulcrum]

hail spawns the grass structures from mad forest

[wheat spire]

Hail spawns a random letter in the code of the game

[echo lintel]

o'sole solution

[hollow ermine]

Poe plushie when

[quasi ginkgo]

make bosses only drop gift boxes on xmas

[mystic pecan]

I second this

[mystic pecan]

ok that's actually something that I would want in the game ngl

[radiant junco]

December peppino now reskins all chests into presents

[mystic pecan]

every character now has a "spoopy" variant

[ebon forge]

this is actually smart

||Mask of red death ghost of christmas future skin||

[tender narwhal]

No see that would be a December variant

[ebon forge]

I know its just a suggestion for the future christmas

[coral fulcrum]

we need a character variation for every holliday

[final ferry]

Continuation of this: #🧛vs-general message

New Passive: Maniac O' Skull. Gives a new stat called Cruse, which reduces enemy damage, speed, and health, but not quantity. Can be used to evolve Skull O' Maniac weapons into weaker versions of their normal evos (ex. Mannajja wouldn't have the slowdown, Ophion couldn't instakill, eta).

[coral fulcrum]

make a castlevania game with only vampire survivors exclusive characters in it (like taking the crossover the other way), takes place in rural italy in 2020 of course and a new vampire has surfaced to replace dracula for that moment. the ending plot twist is that the vampire was actually a werewolf in disguise

[final ferry]

The vampire is ||the Director|| and it ends up being a canonical segway into Ode

[coral fulcrum]

the characters are a bit like equipable things that determine base stats and what types of items can be equiped (for example, in the weapon category, there would be whips, wands, sharp objects, etc., with similar categorizations for other types of equipement)
there would of course be things that count in multiple categories and things that are character exclusive.

[quasi ginkgo]

|| the Directer is in fact poe's great-grandfather ||

[echo lintel]

ghastling

[shell turtle]

Add me into the game

Thx for adding me into the hit game Vampire Survivors

[viscid ridge]

should i become mine now, even though its not fools for me yet?

[viscid ridge]

its 2 hours early but i don't care

[mystic pecan]

add soma cruse which starts with +70% cruse

[echo lintel]

jetstream sammy

[quasi ginkgo]

All hidden unique skills becomes a darkana ... so you can play sammy with fleaman || and unlock fleaman hidden morph into Puppet Master||, eat the world with poe, and so on.

[echo lintel]

power of lire + sammy

[echo lintel]

harnessed happy ghast char that removes moving of 2p, 3p and 4p and also reduces 1p movespeed in exchange of flight through terrain

[mystic pecan]

that's not even a bad idea

like a in game stage editor

[quasi ginkgo]

after editing in every quitillion of possible one pixel difference in editting it unlocks || the vampire || on the game || but you will still have no idea where he is ||

[mystic pecan]

add a widow
also add a completely unrelated dancing mechanic

[echo lintel]

a special save where you start with everything unlocked but has a special set of "unlocks" that locks things instead

[viscid ridge]

imagine speedruns where you try to lock everything
-100%

[hollow ermine]

Make killable

[coral fulcrum]

but only with

[ebon forge]

no only with

[echo lintel]

no only with fleaman

[quasi ginkgo]

with negative recovery

[quasi ginkgo]

|| I'm surprise till now we yet don't have a good char with a 'disease' that makes him either lose health over time or stats, if only hp loss overtime so even reversing pumarola and others recovering stuffs to keep losing hp to don't make it weird against it was ment on the start also negating recovery from golden eggs, but yet heal like from floorchicken would be fine. ||

[echo lintel]

eggs will now grow more expensive the more eggs you already have (per character)
effectively a softcap

[hollow ermine]

No, only garlic

(Not including soul eater)

[coral fulcrum]

rename the armor stat to armour

[heady fulcrum]

inversely, the operation guns characters' descriptions would say armor instead

[tender narwhal]

the spelling of all instances of armour depends on the current character's country of origin

[viscid ridge]

[ebon forge]

I actually kind of like this idea, although this would still kinda suck

[hollow ermine]

Add this character

Add Shawarma as a pickup in the game: gives u +5 max health

Add a Mouthwashing dlc

[quasi ginkgo]

filling bar to make a special finishing move when it gets full, applying to all chars even from the base game.

this is the poe one: #🐦vs-socials message

[quasi ginkgo]

just 14 days left for that post to complete a year, || time goes fast ||

[ebon forge]

they should add something for national garlic day

[ebon forge]

I love shawma

[coral fulcrum]

remove arca from the game

[ebon forge]

no I like him

wait is arca the ring or the fire wand

[final ferry]

Fire Wand, Porta is Lightning Ring.

[ebon forge]

Oh then idc

[viscid ridge]

add every balatro joker as a unique characters to VS

[mystic pecan]

reskin the chest to a slot machine

[coral fulcrum]

inverse mode 2 that just makes everything upside down when selecting it in the options

[viscid ridge]

hurry mode 2:
adds a 1 second timer in level ups that if you let it run out you "skip" the levelup

[shell turtle]

Add Evil twisted versions of weapons. Might be too evil but that’s just me, My MIND is just so TWISTED and WARPED, you can’t fathom the EVIL and FREAKY thoughts that are in my HEAD.
Unholy Wand: Fires evil red magic that does EVIL damage
Unholier Vespers: Now has SATAN scaling
EVILEST jubilee: Summons FREAKY light sources at a RAPID rate.
Defeat Sword: Is Red and damages you and scales off EVIL growth with an EVIL +1.5 base damage per 1% EVIL growth.
FREAKY Tongue: Does CRITICAL damage to all ATTRACTIVE enemies. Scales with Evil RECOVERY

[viscid ridge]

[shell turtle]

Ahahahah is it too EVIL and TWISTED for your FEEBLE and KIND mind to COMPREHEND?

[viscid ridge]

no its not

[shell turtle]

You SICKEN me, Ahahhaha

You truly are the EVIL and TWISTED one

[viscid ridge]

[final ferry]

Hyper Mode 2: Unlocked by beating the respective stage's 25 minute boss in Inverse Mode. Gives each character +1% Move Speed per level, but also increases enemy move speed by 50% every minute.

[final ferry]

...do I dare ask what counts as an "attractive" enemy for the sake of Freaky Tounge?

[shell turtle]

IT is a quiz you take at the START of the GAME to determine your type

[coral fulcrum]

probably only succubus

[final ferry]

(Actually kind of a cool, if obviously impractical, idea lol)

[coral fulcrum]

random events 2: the events are not random anymore, you have to set them yourself before the run

[final ferry]

Tbf, some iterations of Stage Killers would probably also count. There are also those plant lady... things from Mad Forest.

[viscid ridge]

or just activates the twitch chat version of it

and a fake chat just pops on screen to mess with you

[final ferry]

Pulls responses from a random Twitch chat somewhere on the platform.

[coral fulcrum]

castlevania succubi can shapeshift into what the person's mind would want to see, usually attractiveness, unless it's alucard

[viscid ridge]

[coral fulcrum]

people will start saying panic time everywhere

[final ferry]

"Chat, why are you just spamming "The Stalker"?"

[viscid ridge]

The Stalker

[shell turtle]

After completing a run you can join another players run and can kill them

[final ferry]

The Stalker

[coral fulcrum]

the drowner

[viscid ridge]

minecraft manhunt (VS edition )

[shell turtle]

Imagine playing vampire survivors for the first time and level 3000 Scientist Mina come in and instantly kills you

[final ferry]

Okay, actually really cool idea an an opt-in thing, would legitimately bring some challenge even in late-game runs.

[final ferry]

I cast: ||<Power of Sire>||

[viscid ridge]

*would it really be a challenge if you just instantly die *

[final ferry]

(I mean maybe ban some weapons like ||Sire|| or Ophion, but still)

[shell turtle]

low cooldown laurel and a ||Sanctuary||

[coral fulcrum]

endless mode 2: the timer is uncapped and visual effects and enemy and weapon power and amount scale with the power of the system to make it never crash. also you can't pause or quit in any way

[viscid ridge]

though a sort of "VS 99" would be really fun too

[final ferry]

Wait, better idea: add the invasion summon signs from Elden Ring, which other players can activate for additional gold if they want, with increasing rewards depending on how many kills that build got.

[shell turtle]

Level 30 Poe Ratchoe watching as Babi-Ona comes in with a ||troll bomb||

[coral fulcrum]

we have standard music selection and advanced music selection, now we need intermediate music selection which has a list like the advanced one, but without tabs for easier choosing. also the musics load and play when you hover over them

[final ferry]

"Oh boy, I can't wait to try VS for the first time now that it has multi-player features! I wonder what opponent I'll face first!"

Meanwhile, ||Chaos||:

[coral fulcrum]

||clock tower||

[final ferry]

The epitome of "Parry this, casual."

[shell turtle]

||Young Maria|| and the nefarious 30 pumpkins

[final ferry]

My favorite children's book growing up.

[coral fulcrum]

me afer i finish my casual 30 minutes of gold farming with sammy and i accidentally press the "join other player as a boss" button (whoops)

[viscid ridge]

ah yes the end someone else's run button

[final ferry]

Facing off against a level 1000+ Sammy automatically sends you to Holy Forbidden 2, which is just normal Holy Forbidden but with the angel enemies reskinned as Sammy.

(Because they both involve those yellow eyes)

[coral fulcrum]

sammy sign:you always have the gold cap

[shell turtle]

Sammy Sign: Sammy has become real and is now in your house

[viscid ridge]

[final ferry]

That would make egg farming... insane, what I think could work as an alternative is reducing the price of everything except eggs to 0. Money doesn't matter after Sammy anyway, why pretend it does?

[echo lintel]

chaos sign: you decide the effects lol idk

[shell turtle]

We are going to die

[final ferry]

Fudge it, give every character a sign that gives their passive to all characters.

[coral fulcrum]

don't worry that's just his twin brother colin

[shell turtle]

Scientist Mina + ||Blackmore|| fusion goes crazy

[echo lintel]

LC sign

add tony the lc sign man

[final ferry]

But ||Dracula|| Sign tho

[coral fulcrum]

arca sign:everyone has arca's passive except arca who now has nothing

[quasi ginkgo]

gamekiller sign: everybody get a perma gamekiller on every run .... it can't be sealed.

[coral fulcrum]

except flea man

[shell turtle]

||Fleaman|| gets double game killer

[echo lintel]

wooden sign: allows you to change the in-game game title

[final ferry]

...oh no, I just had a stupid idea, but I'm gonna say it since we're in Joke Suggestions and I have deniability.

It unlocks after getting all the checkmarks on that character.

[coral fulcrum]

she moon sign:every light source has a 50% chance to drop an orologion

space dude sign:everything can retrigger randomly from 1 to a million times with a random chance

[quasi ginkgo]

gatti amari sign: if you stay 1 second still on the same place you instant die on the run.

[final ferry]

Charlotte Sign: Whenever you get any Spellbook, you now also get Charlotte's Charge Bar. If your character already has a charge bar, it now activates spellbooks when filled.

[viscid ridge]

oh god

[coral fulcrum]

peppino sign: every stat now gets higher every level that is present in the Fibonacci sequence. also you can't move

[final ferry]

Exdash Sign: Every stat is halved, except for Luck which is tripled.

[mystic pecan]

wait didn't you already do this

[echo lintel]

no?

[mystic pecan]

huh

I swear I remember someone "suggesting" a wooden sign

[echo lintel]

ykw
lc sign: unlocks tony the lc sign man and allows you to change the game title

[hollow ermine]

Make Gemini work on Poe

The counterpart would be his back sprite

[mystic pecan]

poe and eop

[ebon forge]

okay wait this is epic

[quasi ginkgo]

pie sign: let pies appear in any stage making a trail for you to follow and fight marrabio any time repeatedly.

[final ferry]

||Master Librarian Sign: Gives a hidden Power of Lire to all characters.||

[echo lintel]

chaos sign: you think its gives all characters all arcanas? no
instead it gives all characters the ability to morph into super form at lv80, much like what you get with all chaos emeralds

[quasi ginkgo]

attractorb sign: stage itens, destructable items, other drops || crystal cries's hearts and whatever else dropped item || will be magnetizable.

[final ferry]

||Alternatively, gives them all Chaos' unique stage background.||

[tender narwhal]

stage items effected by magnet!?!?

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

MAD FOREST CAN'T BETRAY ME LIKE THIS

I'M NOT DONE MY BUILD YET

I'M ALREADY OUT OF REROLLS AND BANISHES

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO ME ALL I HAVE ARE SKIPS

I JUST WANT MY ARMA DIO

[coral fulcrum]

no instead it puts every character at -99% growth

[heady fulcrum]

finally, a build where i can make wind whip bad!

i've always... wanted... this?????

[final ferry]

||Graham|| Sign giving an innate Mad Groove on a 100% file:

[coral fulcrum]

||quincy|| sign: everyone has a slower version of that charge ability, but you can't take ||troll bomb|| anymore

[echo lintel]

megalo sign where the theme is forcibly replaced by megalovania

[heady fulcrum]

sans mortaccio skin would go hard

(i never play mortaccio)

[coral fulcrum]

sigma sign: every character has sole solution

[final ferry]

The morph just... does nothing to his appearance. For the funny.

[final ferry]

Alternatively, they get Sigma's level up Arcanas.

[coral fulcrum]

no, sans stats

[echo lintel]

stronger toastie

[heady fulcrum]

heavily reduced hitbox delay on all weapons would go crazy

[coral fulcrum]

everything does 1 damage

[final ferry]

1 Max Health, -99% Might, Move Speed at the integer limit to represent teleporting.

[coral fulcrum]

just none

[heady fulcrum]

dairy plant sign: every wave is replaced with... That One

if vampire survivors was AWESOME then every wave would be the final wave of laborratory ❤️

[final ferry]

[Insert +Projectile Character here] Sign: All characters start with a [Starting Weapon]. [Starting Weapon] no longer takes up an active slot.

(Yes this includes ||Cave Troll||)

[heady fulcrum]

oh yo free RPG

[hollow ermine]

give white hand 1 hp and make him killable

[echo lintel]

white sign
yellow hand

[quasi ginkgo]

ambrojoe sign: remove stuffs from previous stages you played before and make them rain on the stage you are now.

[radiant junco]

i would hate this

goodbye xp and chests!

it would be good on like, sammy lol

[coral fulcrum]

poe sign: every character gets an adventure

[quasi ginkgo]

all them retire as well

and gain a walking rocking chair

[coral fulcrum]

||master librarian gets a second one||

[quasi ginkgo]

ngl, Gyoruntin would be one of the funniest char to walk using a rocking chair.... || with all that high tech stuff and still struggling moving in a wooden type of chair||

[final ferry]

Okay, but what about ||Chaos||?

[quasi ginkgo]

he would be like just leda doing so as well

[quasi ginkgo]

he would feels somewhat alike professor Xavier from X-men || but with arcanas ||

[shell turtle]

Every character now has the passive gain + 1 amount every 10 levels (max 4) and their starting weapon is replaced with ||troll bomb||

Also to make this more balanced every character has default stats

[viscid ridge]

remove every other character except cave troll

[echo lintel]

remove every character except poe

[shell turtle]

Every other character is now Cave Troll. All character options are Cave Troll

[echo lintel]

all character are chaos

[shell turtle]

Cave Troll is the perfect Vampire survivors character and every other character pales in comparison

[echo lintel]

to further increase the confusion add chao (species) and chaos from the sonic series

[viscid ridge]

all characters are random (the character)

[shell turtle]

I mean who doesn’t love default stats, the most common passive in the game and starting with a merchant weapon

Truly the character of all time

[final ferry]

Okay but Rottin'Ghoul tho.

[shell turtle]

That’s just Cave Troll but with party popper

[final ferry]

AND in a different DLC!

[echo lintel]

4th wall chicken, given to whoever broke the 4th wall

[echo lintel]

add unique interactions to dlc pickups for
eg. hyper bomb makes the cat explode

[mystic pecan]

troll bomb makes them explode like a troll bomb

[shell turtle]

Troll bomb makes them soawn 1000 gatti Amari that run in a way that emulates the troll bomb explosion

[echo lintel]

pies makes it sammy
(ik pies arent dlc but yea)

[shell turtle]

Also they do troll bomb damage (including to you)

[viscid ridge]

[shell turtle]

Golden Finger turns the cat into a Vicious hunger

[mystic pecan]

garlic gives them all a garlic effect

[viscid ridge]

now that would actually be cool

[echo lintel]

garlic isnt a pickup

[shell turtle]

Garlic stage pickup

[echo lintel]

[viscid ridge]

[echo lintel]

what about cheese

or corns

[mystic pecan]

7000 minotaurs swarm you upon pickup

[shell turtle]

When a Gatti Amari runs into a mirror of truth it starts a scuffle

[echo lintel]

how about those little hearts that appears when you pet the osole

[mystic pecan]

7000 minotaurs swarm you

[shell turtle]

We should change all Gatti Amari pickup effects to do one thing to be less confusing. What should that one thing be

[mystic pecan]

7000 minotaurs swarm you

[echo lintel]

rolls a random event when ran into a karma coin

[mystic pecan]

one of the random events is that 7000 minotaurs swarm you

[shell turtle]

All of the other random events are that 7000 Minotaurs swarm you

[mystic pecan]

even better

[hollow ermine]

Add a stage where it's just reapers

[mystic pecan]

the stalker swarm

[echo lintel]

may 7000 white hands swarm you

[violet cliff]

the 7000 Minotaurs have the health/attack of Moonglow Atlanteans

[dull torrent]

tiny stalker that’s 4x4 pixels

actually

1x1 pixel and every rosary collected increases its size

[final ferry]

Welp, time to run ||Hail|| lol.

[dull torrent]

:

[coral fulcrum]

who would win? 7000 minotaurs or one of every survivor

[final ferry]

Megalo Menya exists, the survivors win easy.

[coral fulcrum]

but 7000 is a lot of minotaurs

ok well maybe not for vs but still

[final ferry]

I was about to say lol.

[coral fulcrum]

also there is team attack on the survivor's side

[final ferry]

Still, Megalo Menya.

[coral fulcrum]

which means that they lose instantly because of pentagram from christine

[final ferry]

...wait, that's an interesting point: are the invincible characters immune to instakills?

[coral fulcrum]

also might i remind you that there are three imposters among them

[coral fulcrum]

they do die to white hand so they are not immune

[final ferry]

Fair point! Well, the Pentagram would also kill all the minotaurs instantly, so I would say that counts as a tie.

[coral fulcrum]

no because they have not all reached the edges of the screen yet

also shouldn't they be werewolves instead of minotaurs if we think about the context

[final ferry]

...yeah, I guess I can't argue with that, with team attack on minotaurs win somehow lol.

[quasi ginkgo]

After beating them in less than 1 minute unlocks || Torino ||

Tip: || get and troll bomb or pentagram ||

[wheat spire]

Chicken Jockey update

I mean they're adding a coop with chickens :)

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-jockey-punch-launched-chicken-minecraft-gif-12515306738916956960

[nimble valley]

add a small chance to stub your toe on chairs, killing you instantly

[hollow ermine]

Make all characters the same as Poe's age

[dull torrent]

turns into two in a second way

and i think idk what a panda (?)s lifespan is

[mystic pecan]

crack mode
makes everything 2847485947% faster

[wheat spire]

Poe mode
makes everything poe

[shell turtle]

Evil Poe Mode
Makes everything Poe but Evil

[hollow ermine]

Poe's an angel though

[tender narwhal]

That's why they specified

[hollow ermine]

Yeah

An angel with a bad smell

[shell turtle]

Light Darkanas. Weaker versions of Darkanas that are kinda the opposite of their effects. Here’s one I came up with based off of Dwelling of Disasters:

Silent Old Sanctuary: Gives +3 Reroll, Skip, and Banish. Gives +20% Might and -8% Cooldown for each weapon slot left empty.

I was going to have Silent Old Sanctuary decrease charm or curse to act as the opposite of DoD but that kinda sounded like a bad idea.

[final ferry]

Cool idea! Here's a concept I came up with for Lament of Guilt:

Twilight Requiem: Lets certain weapons explode when they expire, the damage of which scaling off Curse. Sort of a more balanced version of Lament's universal Curse scaling.

[wheat spire]

A devil with a good smell

[quasi ginkgo]

a mirror char that every time changes the sprite to become the strongest monster you killed in the run ||(strongest is understood as the one it took more time to beat since spam till that time on the run)||... as a passive he can inherit sprite monster's passive skill if the monster has any || only while that sprite is active|| .... || starts with ||

[nimble valley]

add John Cena cuz enemies can't see him

[final ferry]

How do you know he isn't in the game already, you just haven't seen him?

[echo lintel]

when you can't even say
my name
has the memory gone are you feeling numb
--- invisible by duran duran

[nimble valley]

add Carl Brutananadilewski to the game

[echo lintel]

add the cardboard box
without context

[nimble valley]

add the Pyro from Team Fortress 2

[hollow ermine]

Add John Balatro

[hollow ermine]

Add a Balatro DLC

[echo lintel]

add steve minecraft
and make him act like steve in smash bros

[hollow ermine]

Add Jack Black Steve

And add the real irl Steve

Aka Kharrii

[grave dragon]

Leave the free dlc broken so people have to pay again for the other dlc's...

[quasi ginkgo]

space jam dlc || chars from all movies ||

[coral fulcrum]

new weapon:phantom mlg, whenever you get hit, all of your weapons have a chance to trigger. also all knockback is reduced

[hollow ermine]

add a dave the diver dlc

[echo lintel]

genuinely possible ~~so go #1281053878909014016 ~~

[hollow ermine]

how about adding a dave the diver dlc but everyone in the dlc is as fat as dave

[echo lintel]

[mystic pecan]

add steve's lava chicken

https://tenor.com/view/a-minecraft-movie-jack-black-gif-10393245520183570317

[echo lintel]

add chikn nuggit

https://tenor.com/view/chikn-nuggit-chicken-nugget-jumpscare-caption-jumpscare-caption-gif-26322699

[potent mantle]

give every character a Candybox option

i mean this half-ironically, I think it'd be interesting to experiment with different main weapons for characters that don't get them

[final ferry]

(Foscari Adventure Spoilers)

||Since Sammy is now canonically "The True Horror": Sammy Boss Fight.||

[echo lintel]

rename ||chaos|| to ||scary big white donut||

[hollow ermine]

nah, rename it to ||god 2||

[ebon forge]

I dont wanna pay again

also I installed it on two sepperate devices and luckily neither of them broke the game

[shell turtle]

Cosmo + Gazebo(with an uncapped passive) fusion. Will be perfectly balanced

[viscid ridge]

or perhaps a duo version

[ebon forge]

bird up

[potent mantle]

being able to make your own multiplayer teams in single player would be lit actually

outside of the preset ones certain characters have

[final ferry]

coughcough https://discord.com/channels/904353235006017556/1315687760954130565 coughcough

[ebon forge]

how did you pull this up in less than a minute

[final ferry]

Search bar.

[ebon forge]

yeah but like remembering the exact title

[final ferry]

I just put in "Relic" and got it pretty early.

[ebon forge]

dang a year and no relic suggestipns

[potent mantle]

okay the more i sit here the more I start wanting this slash srs

it's probably easily modded in but
I'm on Steam Deck/Linux and the microsoft shit I gotta use to get Melon Loader working just. won't install on Linux :")

[mystic pecan]

give every enemy a survivor counterpart

like how the pipeestrello has bats bats bats or skeleton has mortaccio

[quasi ginkgo]

|| 'petable' || bosses, they will || be following you as a pet||

[mystic pecan]

I think a character from the new dlc does something similar

I remember having some enemies as "pets" following me around

[echo lintel]

add the smol directer from ED trailer

[echo lintel]

Emergency Deeting

[echo lintel]

(look outside spoilers) ||add the visitor from look outside as a chaos-tier character||

[mystic pecan]

darkula: starts with every darkana

[final ferry]

This can be Bisconte's passive

[quasi ginkgo]

megalo queen sigma: starts with all cards || and also negate gamekiller effect just like sammy||... || she owns everything ||

[echo lintel]

an altered game killer which turns gold into projectiles instead

[hollow ermine]

Add a King Poe skin. Make him start with every Arcana, since he is God

[hybrid pike]

Add a dating sim DLC or standalone

[quasi ginkgo]

garlic dmg to enemies heals king poe, pummarola won't evolve garlic just boost heal and as a reaction increase garlic dmg from king poe

[final ferry]

non-zero chance this is an experiment lol

[echo lintel]

date with poe would be peak

[tender narwhal]

Vampire lovers

[heady fulcrum]

using message link and not a reply because update spoilers: #1282537472844370001 message

||i guess it kinda happened lol||

[final ferry]

||Emphasis on kinda, but yeah lol.||

[heady fulcrum]

||i would do unspeakable things to have a character team maker tbh||

it would go hard

[final ferry]

||Also this with the emerald disc: #1282537472844370001 message||

[heady fulcrum]

||a full-on non-adventure foscari expansion would go hard||

[echo lintel]

rename eggman to the hurter to contrast the healer

[coral fulcrum]

they should also do that with moonspell

[coral fulcrum]

no, rename healer to sonic

[quasi ginkgo]

Vampire Turtle joins the survivors, weapon: || item not found ||

[grave dragon]

Thanks dracula, but the turtle is in another coffin! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[quasi ginkgo]

||'item not found'|| can easily be a instant kill weapon

[final ferry]

Has a VERY small chance of dropping a weapon from pre-engine change.

[quasi ginkgo]

let the turtles join the game, we already have birds (cosmo, gazebo).

[quasi ginkgo]

that would be an awesome effect so you can go beyond 6 weapons even easier

[quasi ginkgo]

new powerup: || seal infinite and beyond: allow to even seal chars .... for every 10 sealed chars you get +1 extra max cap for passive itens || alternatively || just a powerup that increase max cap passive itens would do it ||

[mystic pecan]

seal everything but poe

[ebon forge]

sealing characters seems useless

cause you cant use multiple in a run

[echo lintel]

make door start with

[pale current]

Castlevania DLC Part 2, but it only adds Wicked Child as an in-game track. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[final ferry]

I mean, Poncle has said that they would be interested in adding more CV tracks if they can, so this is unironically possible lol.

[pale current]

Update: Castlevania DLC Part 2. Adds an album of thirty songs that are all literally just wicked child. Every single one is exactly the same with no differences.

[echo lintel]

ok hear me out
Directer's Cut Adventure

[final ferry]

Features all of the OP characters as playable (Sigma, Red Death, ||Space Dette||, eta.).

[echo lintel]

the most deeploreable of them all

[hollow ermine]

And make the bosses changeable by the player for a price like 1k gold or something
(Reference to Balatro)

[quasi ginkgo]

Pickups giving temporary arcana effects || (15 seconds real time, non reduced by hurry)||, example: lava chicken heals and gives temp heartoffire arcana effect.

[prime hornet]

Crossover with Slay The Princess

Add the Pristine Blade to the game

[mystic pecan]

collab with me sleeping

please I need to

[tender narwhal]

jeez at least ask for a collab out to dinner first

[mystic pecan]

as in the concept of voluntary unconsciousness

[echo lintel]

alatro colla
no B's

[mystic pecan]

I love alatro

I haven't played it yet

[hollow ermine]

I wonder how that would work: would a random enemy grab the pristine blade somehow and kill her? lol

[prime hornet]

Well, it would be a weapon that goes in your weapon slots. Good for killing enemies like The Razor that appears as the 25:00 boos for the new stage The Construct

[hollow ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/694526096648962110.webp?size=32

[prime hornet]

The Pristine Blade is very powerful, but it is similar to Gatti Amari in that, when certain enemies are on screen, it suddenly becomes a self-damaging weapon.

The Tower is notorious for ending runs this way.

[prime hornet]

New merchant - the Shifting Mound

[hollow ermine]

nah, no need as a merchant

it can be a whole character

#🎨vs-fan-art message

[prime hornet]

Oh yeah, each of the princesses are also characters unlocked by defeating them as bosses (or other conditions for things like Damsel). Shifty is the reward for colleting all of them.

[sweet bay]

Purchase bonus where scanning a copy of the VS book gives you access to the next DLC for free

[echo lintel]

and pls make the dlc in question an original dlc we've had enough collabs

[quasi ginkgo]

I guess that must come with sth you can scan with a mobile like a augmented reality poe or so.

[shell turtle]

Add evil Poe (very scary)

He has evil garlic which evolves into Satan Garlic 666

He has red eyes that drip hyper realistic blood and he hates garlic

He has very high stats since he is very powerful and evil

[ebon forge]

Ratcho poe, A sentient piece of garlic who was just born, he throws around old disabled men and their rocking chairs, has a variant called summer break ratcho poe, and he starts with a level 5 skullomaniac and has -50 health

[tender narwhal]

What makes it all the more unsettling is it’s characters you know too.

[ebon forge]

doesnt that already exist as an enemy

[radiant junco]

poetraits and stage killers

[quasi ginkgo]

poe-bats... || they are bat monsters with poe face and attacking with garlic ||

[mystic pecan]

add stage healer

you get them from killing 3k stage killers with game killer

[coral fulcrum]

new boss:the healer
doesn't do damage, but removes golden eggs. has (1hp×lvl)^eggs

[sweet bay]

Add the ability to offer human sacrifices to Luca Galante's garlic plant in order to accelerate the development process.

[wheat spire]

We should add human sacrifices to the server too

You're first

[lime marten]

New Adventure for Trouser

Road to Moongolow

Reward: Eggman Skin (The Yellow Recolor)

Stat changes: Discount at the merchants. Doubles Gold Eggs aquired. Starts with a and can select any Evolution or union from them (yes, even something like Bi-Bracelet that's unnecessary and Clocktower that would be OP) and gets a Gold Finger whenever a Weapon or Passive is maxed (Weapons that only have 1 LVL trigger this on acquisition)

Can unlock Darkana 0

It's called "Game Breaker"

Chests will be altered and have new effects

Brown chests get turned into "Rainbow Chest" (Raises Luck by 1% of Gold Aquired while opening it), also guaranteed to give 3 items (5 if "Game Killer" is active).

Silver Chests get turned into Gold Chests. Always at least 3 drops (5 with Game Killer). First upgrade has a 1/1.000.000 chance of prematurely evolving a weapon (not max level/missing passive/auto grants "missing tech" for SaGa Weapons). If you got multiple weapons that can evolve they will. Keeps the base version of weapon evolutions when evolving them.

Darkana Unlock Condition: Own 3 Evolutions and their unevolved form (so get a and then a to pick the base weapon)

His adventure will be special, because he starts with the planar bazaar and 100.000 coins

To progress you have to buy 1 Weapon (whatever that is is up to you)

Story is that Trouser conversed with other fellow merchants and heard about Moongolow, so he is on the hunt for clues.

The final stage is (obviously) Moongolow and you're goal is to get one Million coins. The stage will have a golden Taint and provide you with 5 Stone Masks and 3 Golden Fingers, one right at the start, the others further to the left and right. Also the gold fingers are sourounded by 4 little clovers and 4 gold clovers.

TL DR Version, I really like Trouser and would love for him to get a skin and another Darkana to Synergize with both Game Killer and Moon Bolero

[delicate grove]

No, only with Ghost Lino

[mystic pecan]

add window

unlocked with crystal cries

[viscid ridge]

🪟

[lime marten]

Relic:

When Dying, there is a 10% chance instead of seeing the regular Game Over screen, you see the blue screen and it also makes the iconic "an error occured" sound

You can not revive if that happens and get boited to the title screen (still keep your money and progress)

Can be sealed

[shell turtle]

Another Seal power up that when bought unlocks a seal character

🦭

[echo lintel]

🦭 the deal

[ebon forge]

battle royale mode

[quasi ginkgo]

Carlo cart mode in all stages

[hollow ermine]

make all characters have the same speed as peppino

[echo lintel]

wait
now that jetstream is a thing we can finally do jetstream sammy
sammy but starts with muramasa and jetstream

[mystic pecan]

crow ratcho

starts with ebony wings and hidden garlic

[radiant junco]

thief and pyre
starts with and a -like gasoline weapon that debuffs to fire (pyre)
the thief part gives them gold and little hearts for killing these debuffed enemies

get it? thief and pyre.... the vampire

[coral fulcrum]

low ratcho
poe but he is a bit lower on the screen (picture for visual comprehension)

[ebon forge]

bow ratcho

The sniper from otc is now retired and spends their time eating garlic

[radiant junco]

halo ratcho
he died.

[ebon forge]

mortacho

[shell turtle]

Moe Ratcho, Poe Ratcho’s cousin who owns an onion business. Starts with Onion and higher max HP and move speed

[ebon forge]

[redacted] Ratcho, an awesome farmer guy who uses his favorite farming tool

[quasi ginkgo]

GyorunPoe

[echo lintel]

space poe
poe dette

[ebon forge]

Toe ratcho

Every step you take you lose 1 hp due to stubbing your toe

and you start with kick

[shell turtle]

Go Ratcho. He is very fast.

[ebon forge]

slow ratcho

Go ratchos evil cousin

really fucking slow

slower than peppino

[shell turtle]

Go Ratcho is also evil

But he is so fast he can outrun his sins

[quasi ginkgo]

when he reach level 80 he gains a rocking chair and his move speed start raising 3% per level. if you are in a coop with avatar infernas that bonus increase by 6% per level up instead.

[ebon forge]

well slow ratcho is evil^2

[ebon forge]

why with avatar infernas

[coral fulcrum]

know ratcho:has a poe related quiz question every minute. if you fail you explode in real life

[ebon forge]

Poe cat-cho

Is a very obese cat

[coral fulcrum]

foe ratcho:playable stage killer poe

[ebon forge]

Ratcho

Invisible

We should get a poe skin for every character in game

[coral fulcrum]

hydro ratcho: starts with a hidden boo roo boolle ( this thing)

[ebon forge]

why not hydro storm

[coral fulcrum]

because i forgot about it

[ebon forge]

valid argument

[echo lintel]

Lolo, Hiss, Meow, and Purr Ratcho

[ebon forge]

purr catcho

[quasi ginkgo]

Acquazzone Ratcho

[ebon forge]

whats acquazzone

[coral fulcrum]

||ferryman||

[quasi ginkgo]

ferryman stuff

[ebon forge]

ohh

yeah idk how I unlocked ferryman but I have used him literally once

[quasi ginkgo]

walking on water

[coral fulcrum]

trio ratcho:there are three of them

[echo lintel]

poe all
seal all but poe

[ebon forge]

duo ratcho there are two of them

seal poe

only seals poe

instantly wipes your save data

[quasi ginkgo]

sigma ratcho

[echo lintel]

poe ♾️

infinite poes

[ebon forge]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-sigma-sorry-you-are-not-a-sigma-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-you-aren't-a-sigma-you-are-not-sigma-gif-337838532227751572

[coral fulcrum]

rainbow ratcho:starts with a hidden la robba that has the furniture reskinned as bow-ties

[viscid ridge]

[ebon forge]

wanna know where I got that gif from

#😁vs-memes message

[coral fulcrum]

slow ratcho:peppino but with garlic instead of soul eater

[echo lintel]

devil may cry vergil skin for sigma

[ebon forge]

I may not cry

[echo lintel]

hey sigma, your overpowered days are over. give me the victory sword
if you want it, you're gonna have to take it

[earnest badger]

That would be really funny actually

[quasi ginkgo]

Bitcoin joins the survivors, weapon: ||halves||, that weapon randomly throws || crypto digital coins in the ground with an area like santa water unevolved, which randomly triggers a half either on enemy dmg, move speed, max hp, or half its accuracy making they miss 50% of attacks and also lower 50% of enemy current hp per second (round down) (this weapon alone don't kill)||.

[quasi ginkgo]

New Passive: ||Coffin Ring|| whenever you reach critical low hp || 10% max hp or less || and manages to survive for at least 5 extra second you get a 50% chance to summon an random survivor on the run to aid your char || s/he doesnt level up and gets the same passives as you but fight only with his/her starting weapon || || they can trigger coffin ring effect too || extra: || if you reached critical low hp for longer than 5 seconds and not healed above 10% it continue counting the time for a extra 50% chance every 5 seconds to summon a survivor ||

[quasi ginkgo]

I can see the mess it can turnout to end a run with over 100 chars hehe

[tender narwhal]

if your character has a low enough movement speed, make that stone-statue pushing sfx play (you know the one) whenever you move

[exotic umbra]

I propose: ||new seal level|| - ||seal all +||

[exotic umbra]

This effect will ||permanently delete sealed things||

[hollow ermine]

make white hand a weapon

so, by default, every second, you spawn a white hand and it will kill the closest enemy, regardless of its health

[echo lintel]

what happens if you trigger white hand while having white hand weapon

[radiant junco]

They kiss

[echo lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-shocked-squidward-tonight-tonight-squidward-shock-gif-23057510

[hollow ermine]

they kill each other

BUT

after they do so

the game exits a few seconds after

[wheat spire]

A 1400 hour cutscene plays where you watch their lives after said kiss

In real time

[mystic pecan]

roe ratcho

starts with 🐟

[viscid ridge]

when do we think we'll get the || 🐟 weapon?||

[echo lintel]

august 12 2036

[tender narwhal]

that would be very poor timing, considering that's the heat death of the universe

[coral fulcrum]

isn't that also when castlevania dawn of sorrow takes place

[echo lintel]

character that has a high stat and always has candybox in levelup/chests, but in exchange new weapons replace the weapon he already has

[shell turtle]

More Braclet Evos after Tri-Bracelet that each add an arcana synergy.
Quad-Bracelet: adds Tragic Princess synergy
Penta-Bracelet: adds Waltz of Pearls Synergy
Hexa-Bracelet: adds Blood Astronomia synergy

Hepta-Bracelet: adds crits and Slash synergy

[viscid ridge]

actually decent suggestion

[coral fulcrum]

hecto-bracelet:always considered as a starting weapon for beggining synergy

also while we're on the topic of bracelet genuine question does tri bracelet lose twilight requiem synergy when it evolves (same with bi bracelet and jail of crystal)

[shell turtle]

No

It doesn’t lose the synergies

[coral fulcrum]

That's actually pretty cool.

[knotty root]

Darkana or character that build stats infinitely as long as they keep moving. But will reset as soon as they stop.

[mystic pecan]

make the vicious hungers have collision with each other

and collision with enemies

and collision with you

[quasi ginkgo]

upon each colliding a gatti amari is summoned

[shell turtle]

Here’s a more serious version of this (cutting down on the number of evos)
Quad-Bracelet: adds Tragic Princess Synergy
Penta-Bracelet: Adds crits and Slash synergy
Infini-Bracelet: gift(works like an Evo) of Penta-Bracelet, requires max Torronas box. Has only 1 level like the final stage of the 3 stage Emerald Diorama weapons. Gains more base damage every time it fires.

[echo lintel]

young poe

[hollow ermine]

@echo lintel poe was born old

like bro had a white beard when he was born

[quasi ginkgo]

|| Garlic is Poe's soul, he grasp his life by holding his garlic to never die from old age ||

[ebon forge]

Add cosmetics

[ebon forge]

||Australium ||

[coral fulcrum]

make the chaos in the dark night darkana called order outside of the bright day

[coral fulcrum]

what if ode to castlevania's codename was "this person" instead of "those people" and it was just one character (but very well designed with many different skins that each have different weapons)

[heady fulcrum]

one character just called "John Castlevania" and they have a skin for every single character that's in the actual DLC

[echo lintel]

john everything

[exotic umbra]

Character idea: ||John Survivor||
Gimmick: ||gets gimmick of random character every minute||

Weapon: ||John Weapon||
Gimmick: ||do effect of random weapon every minute||

Evo: ||John everything||
Gimmick: ||do effect of random Evo every minute||

Unlock: ||do all achievements, secrets, max bestiary and adventures||

[quasi ginkgo]

John Survivor [1] #1282537472844370001 message
John Survivor [2] #1282537472844370001 message
John Survivor [3] #1282537472844370001 message

[echo lintel]

make the pre-30min game over screen have a chance to display "skill issue" instead of "game over"

[ebon forge]

i'm guessing the unlock is base game only?

[exotic umbra]

Yeah

But I think dlcs should make that harder

[ebon forge]

also john would be impossible to obtain

cause the bestiary is currently bugged

with the ED dlc

idk if they fixed it

[exotic umbra]

Yeah

Every update makes him harder to get

[ebon forge]

that also would suck

cause you could un-unlock him at any time

unless he is like sigma

[exotic umbra]

Let the people choose

[hollow ermine]

make john survivor even more op than chaos

[coral fulcrum]

you unlock him by getting everything in a single run

[quasi ginkgo]

he gains || || a perma boost bonus for every time he survives a full run, those bonuses can exceed cap limit.

[coral fulcrum]

to make this easier, add a relic that gives you more weapon and passive slots (but the weapons become weaker) and make another relic that removes the limit on how many people can play multiplayer+removes the preset co-op weapon/passive limit and sets it to 6

[radiant junco]

whenever modding gets easier:
cryptid-esque mod
NOT called garlic because garlic would serve the role of jolly jokers

[viscid ridge]

nah, garlic is too iconic

[radiant junco]

ok

then i say gatti amari should be the jolly joker replacement :)

[prime hornet]

Octa-Bracelet - Adds Gemini Synergy with counterpart: Necklace

[quasi ginkgo]

|| new avatar infernas skin ("back from the future") where he loses 2% move speed per level up || || at one time he won't move but if he keeps leveling he will speed up moving backwards ||

[coral fulcrum]

vampire survivors board game

[viscid ridge]

how would it work?

[coral fulcrum]

It could be anything.

the levels could be simulated by drawing three cards and then choosing one

[viscid ridge]

what would the board part be though?

[coral fulcrum]

an amalgamation of the most important vs stages

perhaps with small pieces of cardboard or something so they can be rearranged before/during the game

[viscid ridge]

or just boss rash if we want to keep it simple

[coral fulcrum]

that's too simple

[viscid ridge]

well it has a bunch of notable waves from the main stages

[heady fulcrum]

first tabletop game to have a flashing lights warning

[coral fulcrum]

we don't have enough ideas to do something yet so i might just theorise something and note it somewhere

[coral fulcrum]

incorrect

[viscid ridge]

lol

[heady fulcrum]

is there actually one lmao

what is. IN that game

[coral fulcrum]

there are some that use a dvd or a vhs tape so most likely those

[heady fulcrum]

ah yeah that might do it

[viscid ridge]

we could probably make something up in tabletop sim

(ive never used tabletop sim before)

[coral fulcrum]

neither have i

[viscid ridge]

would we unironically want to make a VS board game in tabletop sim?

i would be kinda down for the idea

[shell turtle]

Vampire Survivors 3v3 (like MvC or DBFZ) fighting game.

Obviously no DLC characters or weapons(could be renamed and slightly redesigned and added to other characters) from things that could lead to copyright issues.

[quasi ginkgo]

if dlc chars were allowed emergency meeting horse would move like it does in chess

[echo lintel]

peter, the horse is here

[viscid ridge]

[mellow garden]

I want poe riding gazebo character

[echo lintel]

gazebo jockey

[quasi ginkgo]

and random riding a coffin

[hollow ermine]

actually unironically fire

[hollow ermine]

new darkana idea: allows for any character to ride a gazebo

[quasi ginkgo]

even gazebo riding a gazebo?

[hollow ermine]

yeah

[exotic umbra]

Everyone

People had chosen

Now let's imagine effect of every character as John Survivor

[hollow ermine]

Add John Balatro

[quasi ginkgo]

farmer poe skin when

[ebon forge]

rusty's retirement already exists

[hollow ermine]

adding it to vs when

[mystic pecan]

add vs

this would obviously not happen

[tender narwhal]

[viscid ridge]

[coral fulcrum]

add a character that starts with a weapon

[quasi ginkgo]

add random as a weapon || with randomized weapon effect||

[quasi ginkgo]

each kill on each bestiary monster that got inside an adventure adds 1 gold per kill per monster on the starting gold amount you get starting that adventure.

[potent mantle]

add vs (versus)

Vampire Survivors Versus Mode
VS VS.

[shell turtle]

A vs mode for vampire survivors would be so unbalanced it would be hilarious. Like how would you even balance it? The only way I could think of is if there were restrictions on the characters you could choose, power ups were disabled, only certain weapons were available, arcanas would be banned

[potent mantle]

you just beef up the characters' health wherever they need it, ban Chaos, and then let God sort it out

[shell turtle]

Also pickups would need to be disabled

[shell turtle]

There are unironically several characters more unbalanced than chaos would be
(Luminaire just kills everything on level up and has like +7 revives, the invincible characters etc.)

[potent mantle]

Yeah ban the invincible characters at least
Disable revives
uhhhh rosary does not kill players

[shell turtle]

Oh yeah Christine starts with pentagram just activating

[potent mantle]

Make Pentagram's damage only in like
a circle around the user

Honestly this is the jokes suggestion forum I said it with the idea it'd be unbalanced as fuck

[viscid ridge]

or
*penta also just kills her now as well *

[quasi ginkgo]

but she ate a single before battle.

[potent mantle]

Vampire Survivors Judgme- [i am gunned down by firing squad]

[shell turtle]

Also master Liberian is disabled because like more than half those weapons are going to be overpowered

[quasi ginkgo]

liberian?

[shell turtle]

Can’t wait for who can get troll bomb in the level up screen the fastest

[shell turtle]

sorry, libaerianeran

[potent mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE0cZ1No26w

[shell turtle]

If there actually was a versus mode and you could use any character Luminaire could be the best depending on how rosaries work.

And the bonus revives would be really good for countering instakills

[potent mantle]

Babi-Onna sweep

[shell turtle]

I think the invincible character would be able to be hit by weapons that could hit intangible enemies. (Like victory sword or pentagram)

[quasi ginkgo]

in vinci ble, || vinci means "to win", so they won't be able to win on versus ||

in vinci ble in real would mean literaly || unable to win ||

[shell turtle]

Christine (or any character that starts with candybox) would be “you win if your opponent doesn’t have a character with revives or automatically starts with Awake (like Chaos or Nathan Graves)

Since powerups would be disabled

[hybrid pike]

Still asking Poncle to add an actual casino to the game

[delicate grove]

A character that always starts every run at 1 HP, and can never heal above that. (Reviving puts the player at 1 HP instead of half.)

Basically a "better"/"worse" Toastie.

[echo lintel]

might be very good with if max hp isnt restricted

[quasi ginkgo]

every time that char revives a random stat becomes 1 too

[tender narwhal]

[knotty root]

Character loses their all clothing in exchange for brief Showstopper.

[mellow garden]

I want a weapon that delets your steam account

[potent mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[coral fulcrum]

make a mario crossover and make it a ps4 exclusive (not on ps5)

[quasi ginkgo]

vampire survivors doom edition || that is even playable in a washing machine ||

[quasi ginkgo]

that could even be an aprils' fool joke

[ebon forge]

add a weapon that starts with a character

[coral fulcrum]

add an in game stock market

[tender narwhal]

add a way for sammy specifically to abuse said stock market

[coral fulcrum]

sammy is a stock and he is always somewhere above the gold cap so you can't buy his stocks

[shell turtle]

The reason taxes go up is because the IRS borrowed money from Sammy and are trying to pay it off

All the world’s economic problems are caused by every world goverment borrowing money from Sammy and trying to pay it off.

[ebon forge]

In game purchases(new currency not real money), you can purchase a cool new game, after obtaining a relic called a "gaming boy" allowing you to play survivor vampires a cool new game with characters like ratchoe po and fight enemies like white toe and milk elemental

[mellow garden]

ok poe is just... very like this milk bath

also what the hell McCoy-oni doing there

[viscid ridge]

that's... ||not milk... ||

[mellow garden]

oh

[shell turtle]

It’s the “mad milk” from TF2, it’s where scout gets it from

[hollow ermine]

Vro's chilling

[mellow garden]

seems very sus
Especially when McCoy was a tanuki
and tanuki have biggest balls they carry
and the scene was poe swiming in a milk made of minotaurs

[coral fulcrum]

add poe (the zelda enemy)

[exotic umbra]

I have idea

Add ||tainted characters||

[mystic pecan]

white disk
does nothing but it looks cool on the main menu

[hollow ermine]

Add Ame-chan

I guess her starting weapon could be the [[knife]]

[kindred cosmos]

https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/Knife

[coral fulcrum]

if you beat any cow/minotaur like enemy with mace they should drop ground beef

[quasi ginkgo]

Pickup synergies: || examples: 1) getting NFT pickup while having make all enemies on the screen explode. 2) getting sorbetto having crystal cries makes all heart magnet while sorbetto effect is still active. 3) getting floor chicken with HA double chance of meal drops. 4) getting with gives enemies chance to drop sorbetto when killed. 5) mad groove + picking clovers on the run makes each clover to have a 50% chance to turn your char into peppino but doubling your current move speed, effects last 60 seconds. 6) Wicked season + gold finger turns your char into a randomly megalo for 60 seconds. 7) + special pickups, make garlics rain on the stage for 8 seconds (non stackable and It has a 30 seconds cooldown, after garlic disappears), garlic on the stage have garlic area and disappear 2 seconds after the rain stops.||

[ebon forge]

No it should be if you beat them with the rock thingy spell

[quasi ginkgo]

New skin: || Sensei Poe, starts with max garlic and pummarola, has Imelda, o'sole and Peppino as party members||

[sweet bay]

add cryptocurrency

[viscid ridge]

[sweet bay]

/j

add, uh

add... Garlic 2

[viscid ridge]

[ebon forge]

gemini garlic sounds genious

[sweet bay]

ok fair

Garlic 3

[quasi ginkgo]

Ennea-bracelet: 'garlic 3' || all attacks add garlic to It||

Deca-bracelet: 'garlic 4' || all attacks also adds 'garlic 2 || || souleater||

[coral fulcrum]

add a stage with a time limit

[echo lintel]

add gameplay

[shell turtle]

add start button

[echo lintel]

add code

[viscid ridge]

add sprites

[mystic pecan]

add tech name carousel

[echo lintel]

exist (verb)

[mystic pecan]

add

[viscid ridge]

remove tech name carousel

[echo lintel]

remove the game

[hollow ermine]

Add the game

[quasi ginkgo]

Game mode where the game get inversed and come back after every kill. || Disabling visual inverse no longer works||

[mystic pecan]

subtract by the square root of 7

[coral fulcrum]

add a new type of molisano

[quasi ginkgo]

New stage: Indigo acres || green acres remix ||

[shell turtle]

Give Mad Forest anger management

So it becomes forest

[mystic pecan]

add john garlic

starts with 7000 garlics

[coral fulcrum]

they all have stats that change randomly every second, gets an extra garlic every level, can retire through an adventure to get 7000 level 5 pummarolas

[quasi ginkgo]

Doing that unlocks retired Poe in all stages to allow other chars to retire after completing 7000 runs with that same char and talking with retired Poe on the stage.

[quasi ginkgo]

|| If you confuse and talk with master librarian instead of retired Poe you will need more 7000 complete runs with that char to retire the desired char and gets its retire skin in a rocking chair just like Poe ||

[nimble valley]

It would be great if the game didn't crash my ps5

[radiant junco]

1. Known issue #👑general-announcements message
2. That’s not what this chat is for

[mystic pecan]

add pringles can

[echo lintel]

add the please, dont touch anything button which is a slightly recolored

[tender narwhal]

[quasi ginkgo]

add cookie clicker char, starts with that weapon

[echo lintel]

every time when triggers gain one random stat (like )

[ebon forge]

great you just exploded the server

[coral fulcrum]

darkana that has a 10% chance to give a hidden paranormal scan every level

but you can't heal more than 1 (overheal effects now work for every x hp overhealed total, so you can overheal by 1 at least 8 times to trigger ||walter bernard's|| effect)

[heady fulcrum]

https://vxtwitter.com/poncle_vampire/status/1914327097805336866

Vampire Survivors 🦇 Emerald Diorama OUT NOW 🧄 (@poncle_vampir...

this new chicken shop has fast service

my compliments to the chef? 🤔 https://t.co/bhRr1uLxtH

▶ Play video

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it can be a floor chicken place!

[quasi ginkgo]

New feature || desaminas || a pre version of some actual chars like: Leda, Red Death, McCoy, Peppino, Je-ne-viv, Gazebo, Gains, Gyorunt(x), Chaos.

Play game killer for 3 minutes with those chars without getting a chest to break that arcana and play with their "pre real version" form. || Since that arcana got "broken" on the run you can level up ||

[quasi ginkgo]

megalo cores to limit break just like anima does

[mystic pecan]

new character: poe sickcho, randomly starts draining health to 50%, floor chickens are repalced with chicken noodle soup
also eating a chicken noodle during a health drain stops it

i may or may not be sick right now

[quasi ginkgo]

passive itens limit breaking

[shell turtle]

Thought you wrote “passive items limit breathing” like you gained asthma if you picked up empty tome

Each passive item gives a different thing that limits breathing

Wings is Asthma

Attractorb is Pneumonia

[quasi ginkgo]

it happens in all stages after 30 min or less.

if endless is disabled

[coral fulcrum]

it gives them in real life for an extra challenge

[echo lintel]

add this specific cat from https://deltarune.com/rarecats/

[shell turtle]

Spamton Sweepstakes DLC

No Deltarune DLC, just Spamton Sweepstakes stuff

[topaz glade]

poe ultimate form when

like imagine poe reaching level 80 and just becoming a god

[ebon forge]

perfect poe

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584

[mystic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-dbz-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-gif-15938924065632032098

[quasi ginkgo]

For Plus than Perfect Poe make it with soccer kit || plus quan perfect is a verbal tense in spanish and portuguese languages "tempo mais que perfeito" in spanish "más que perfecto", meaning "more than perfect: verb tense" || || I saw it also has in italian this verb tense "trapassato prossimo" but it looks it has a different meaning translating each part || || I'm not fluent in any second language (not even in english which is also not my mother language) so if you are on the other one you can feel free to correct any error ||

[fluid wagon]

Add a new mode called “SCREAM” mode.

When activated at the bottom of the screen it makes characters scream when too close to an enemy and or taking damage.

All scream voice lines are to be recorded by the same person doing a variety of impressions and minimal amounts of audio editing. All voice line screams stops when player has reached a safe place where they are not taking damage and do not have to worry too much about moving about on their screen.

Characters like O-Sole, Horse, and others will bark and neigh respectively. ^^✨

[coral fulcrum]

the contra chracters already do a little scream when they die

[echo lintel]

add the fake horror

[sweet bay]

Eat Sammy

[viscid ridge]

[sweet bay]

It must be done, someone has to take one for the team

[ebon forge]

add scream fortress

[coral fulcrum]

add wallman from castlevania order of eclesia

[ebon forge]

add the wall from spiderman

[mystic pecan]

add wall cat from battle cats

[coral fulcrum]

add
it is garlic but it fries the coop enemies

[knotty root]

Allow and Death Boss fight in X3 Speed

[quasi ginkgo]

Sidequests with objectives to complete within main game and adventures to gain a hidden bonus on sth that will release in a future update.

[shell turtle]

New DLC: Emergency Meeting 2

It’s even bigger than the base game + all DLCs combined

New weapons include:
Paranormal Scan 2(it’s just Paranormal Scan but you can have it and paranormal scan at the same time)

[tender narwhal]

that's the only new weapon, the rest of the content is 1 new stage and 500+ new characters that are every combination of colour, outfit & role that isn't already in the og dlc

[shell turtle]

Sans costume

Has 1HP but has +999% move speed to make up for that to replicate the dodging.

This will make it very easy to avoid the enemies

[viscid ridge]

ah yes

[tender narwhal]

the dastardly bat waiting for you to run into it:

[shell turtle]

Move Speed needs a cap IMO

[shell turtle]

Probably needs it the most out of every other stat (including the ones that already have a cap)

[viscid ridge]

yeah
the lantern was definitely a bandaid fix

[shell turtle]

Also uncap armor, why does it even have a stat cap

[knotty root]

C'mon we have way more Task Inspired Weapons for this.
Like Gas Mask. The stage will flood every intervals......
That is just ...is it?

[shell turtle]

Sounds more like ||Hydrostorm||

[knotty root]

||Hydrostorm||,but more water

[echo lintel]

poe rat 🐀

[mellow garden]

I wish this enemy is a playabe character

[viscid ridge]

~~what's stopping you from making that a reality? ~~

[mellow garden]

yeah your right
we can play as death, or other powerful entities in VS

[viscid ridge]

||if you are wanting ideas for the weapons, probably an evo from moonspell imo, like godai||

[coral fulcrum]

normal scan:has no gameplay effect, buy it does show you one random stat of your character when it is triggered

[echo lintel]

metal detector: chance to spawn spots that you can dig for loots (gold, items, chests etc.). problem is, it doesn't give you the ability to dig so you'll have get the shovel as well in the same run
-# inspired by blue prince

[quasi ginkgo]

Fishing rod: allow you to capture fish monsters. reason: || nothing ||

[echo lintel]

(blue prince spoilers) relic: ||royal scepter: choose a color at the start of run; the weapons and passives of that color will be more common for the run (doubled weight)
the color selection can be skipped; the relic itself can be sealed to prevent the effect||

[shell turtle]

Luigi Gun: Shoots Luigi

[echo lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-luigi-mangione-gif-15027802554555046605

[mellow garden]

yarn of disperazione e fusione:
it gives you 1 banish
max level 3

[hollow ermine]

one-shots all bosses

[tender narwhal]

unfortunately, as it only shoots luigi, you never get to see this functionality

shame too I really liked that guy

[echo lintel]

new portrait mode for mobile: portrait of ruin
basically portrait but ruined

[coral fulcrum]

you can only play as characters and use weapons that were in castlevania portrait of ruin

[mellow garden]

I have a suggestion

[coral fulcrum]

if you don't have otc you can't play the game

also character that always banishes one of the non chosen (excluding the ones you already have) options every level

[coral fulcrum]

new skin for the invincible characters/sammy that instantly sets the timer to 30 minutes and kills the reaper if endless is disabled (white hand is there) after 2 levels

[shell turtle]

Evil Cosmo: instead of +1 recovery every level, +20% Max HP every level (works like Hollow Heart)

Also has the same starting Max HP as Cosmo

So at level 100 Evil Cosmo would have about 2 Billion Max HP if there are no other Max HP increases along the way

[mystic pecan]

new skin for invincible characters that makes them

[coral fulcrum]

no because then you couldn't see them

[shell turtle]

Lead Eggs: like Golden Eggs but they give your character Lead Poisoning instead of stat increases

[tender narwhal]

They do this by subtracting random stats (with a preference towards max health & move speed). They generally referred to as a good thing in-lore

[coral fulcrum]

add a tomato that can be thrpwn at a player for poor performance

[radiant junco]

let tomatoes be eaten off of lead eggs

causing people to think tomatoes are poisonous