Puppeteer passive forcefully despawning struck entities (with sufficient Melee Speed %)

[whole sorrel]

100% tied to the passive:
Enemies sometimes despawn on contact (?). Tested with Fargo's Super Dummies, see the randomly missing dummies after attacking (images attached).
This behavior is rare and took many attempts. I have noted it happening to various random enemies as well (lihzahrds, skeletons, tortoises, etc.), so it seems to not care for type of enemy.

Other occurrences I believe are tied to the passive:
3 times out of 3 attempts, WoF despawned at low HP in his domain, using Bee Hive yoyo.
1 time out of 2 attempts, (potentially) crashed the game during the Plantera fight (image attached).

[sturdy zodiac]

Ha, now that infinite yoyos work people actually try it.
But if no one else does it before me, i will check it out later.

[whole sorrel]

The puppeteer passive singlehandedly made me switch from a typical melee build into now full yoyo build lol. It's a really sick mechanic that sounds goofy, but has a lot of utility and is fun to use.

the randomly despawning enemies on hit thing is annoying at times, but is negligible in the grand scheme of things

aside from it making me redo the WoF fight 3 times LMFAO

[sturdy zodiac]

I used Terrarian and the Hive-Five and cant really replicate it

[whole sorrel]

it deleted the vanilla target dummy entity

[whole sorrel]

i've only been able to count a various handful of times where i actively saw an enemy get despawned, and I'm using exclusively yoyos

so i'm not surprised its hard to replicate (a line of target dummies, like in the above screenshots, was the easiest for me. still took a bunch of tries tho)

[sturdy zodiac]

i stood there for 2 minutes with a terrarian xD

on 10 dummies

[whole sorrel]

a "try" being manually removing and replacing the dummies, then attacking for a bit, rinse and repeat

just got it again

[sturdy zodiac]

is the one that disappeared the one with the mods?

[whole sorrel]

????? despawned ALL of them, seemingly in order as I retracted the yoyo?

[whole sorrel]

Tested with Fargo's Super Dummies

YEP

the yoyo retraction fucks with it

[sturdy zodiac]

retraction? hmm

[whole sorrel]

like

letting go of the yoyo

releasing m1

[whole sorrel]

i feel like this is different behavior from what I saw exhibited elsewhere though? so could be its own bug

NOPE LMFAO

okay this is goofy af

will send a clip in a moment

[sturdy zodiac]

how do you poison with your Yoyo?

[whole sorrel]

flask ^^

[sturdy zodiac]

doesnt seem to be poison or bleed related since it doesnt happen for me with it

[whole sorrel]

interestingly enough

its not happening with a wooden yoyo

gonna test all of mine

[sturdy zodiac]

what tree nodes do you have?

[whole sorrel]

will minimize and try to replicate

full minimized

happening with the yoyos on the right 100% of the time
left do not cause the issue (or more likely, it just isnt consistent)

[sturdy zodiac]

Anything that the tmodloader window says?

[whole sorrel]

okay i think its a Melee speed thing

taking off strength / damage pieces of my set didnt stop it

but taking off EITHER my Titanium Mask or Fire Gauntlet would fix it

breaking

not breaking

OHHHH

[sturdy zodiac]

uhh...i just replicated it since you mentioned Fire Gauntlet

[whole sorrel]

thats why i got it working during the WoF fight probably

since this could have pushed me over the limit

i most commonly saw this happen when i was mass-farming enemies

[whole sorrel]

so higher attack speeds probably shift some of these yoyos over to the "break" category as well?

[sturdy zodiac]

Terrarian does it aswell now

what the heck could cause the Yoyos on letting go to delete entities xD

But only if you have enough attackspeed

[whole sorrel]

Puppeteer passive forcefully despawning struck entities (with sufficient Melee Speed %)

[whole sorrel]

@tribal belfry

figured you might get a laugh out of it lol

[tribal belfry]

thats so odd

tf

your yoyo breaks space time continuum and deletes entities

[sturdy zodiac]

its the Rage node + Puppeteer

even with the same attackspeed without Rage node it doesnt happen

[tribal belfry]

oh odd

I see

[whole sorrel]

rage node not needed, given the minimized tree i posted earlier (and it was still breaking)

it just might make it easier to execute in earlier game situations?

[sturdy zodiac]

weird

i cant do it without it

[whole sorrel]

need more attack speed then yea?

[whole sorrel]

from my kit, I've got helmet + glove giving attack speed

[sturdy zodiac]

I am wearing the solar set

[whole sorrel]

0 global attack speed from dex

[sturdy zodiac]

hmm

[whole sorrel]

minimized, still despawns it

definitely odd though

because i feel like it isnt JUST about melee speed %

[whole sorrel]

*important clarification between Attack Speed and Melee Speed, as the attack speed listed on the weapon doesnt change

[sturdy zodiac]

Puppeteer is programmed to hit the targets an additional time but it does not have a cooldown of any way.
I wonder if it makes an infinite damage event and just deletes the NPC for some reason

[whole sorrel]

OH

OH I SEE NOW

high enough melee speed % makes some yoyos "retract" on release INSTANTLY

any yoyo that can retract instantly is causing this effect

OHHHH

and you know what?

i bet there are other ways to force the yoyo to retract instantly, aside from melee speed %

...which would explain why it can happen in other situations

[sturdy zodiac]

Running out of hits for limited duration yoyos technically retracts it instantly

[whole sorrel]

"instantly" meaning the travel time from the yoyo is SUPPOSED to go through from "thrown out" to "returning to the player" is 0

got it to despawn with the Hive-Five with more melee speed

so yea, the yoyo retracting instantly IS tied to melee speed

and in turn, the forced despawns is tied to the instantaneous retraction from the yoyos

[sturdy zodiac]

but why would that cause instant deletion is the question xD

[whole sorrel]

probably tied to the puppeteer movement mechanics

like how it lets you drag enemies around right?

if the yoyo is moving "infinitely fast" or being teleported REALLY far away, it probably has adverse affects on the entities tied to that yoyo

[sturdy zodiac]

weird part is the yoyo position matters

[whole sorrel]

i imagine that the puppeteer movement force applied to the enemy is tied to the distance between the enemy and the yoyo

[sturdy zodiac]

removing the movement does indeed not make it happen for me anymore
but now the string draws point to the very right corner

[whole sorrel]

teleported REALLY far away
note that the puppeteer movement vector is aligned with the direction the yoyo returns in

[sturdy zodiac]

and is it still bottom right if you go to the left of the mob?

[whole sorrel]

player position dependent

[sturdy zodiac]

i removed the knockback resistance and removed the offset code
cough

but that did not fix it

[whole sorrel]

(updated for visual clarity on what i meant)

yea would not be surprised if this was why my Plantera fight crashed LMFAO

im out of maps to test it though xdd

[whole sorrel]

Crashed the WoF fight

[sturdy zodiac]

Time to reduce your attackspeed

[soft vale]

can't replicate this

just gonna add a NaN check and a distance cap and hope that's enough

[sturdy zodiac]

it happens if you get in the 125-130% Melee Attackspeed via Tree and accessories with a quick Yoyo like Terrarian