New Skill: Backslap!

[stark maple]

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Backslap

When targeted by Cripple, Punch, or Burn, deal (x) damage back.
Damage can be blocked by Shield and Bunker. Damage cannot be blocked by Bodyguard and Sturdy.

Revenge is a dish best served…immediately! Hit back harder with Backslap!

Keep your eyes wide for upcoming cards & combos with Backslap. Our newest Character, Rogu, will be one of the first!

This skill will arrive this week with the Server Push.

[vocal frost]

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[midnight canyon]

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[stark maple]

Give it a thinky think and hit me with your questions.

[near hatch]

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[tender ember]

The big question is will it be a gamechanger and will it be ovp

[delicate sandal]

Is this an indirect nerf to The Wheel?

[stark maple]

Yes, it will be a game changer. Ovp? that's up to you.

[near hatch]

Punch and burn I get as they are damage

Cripple isn’t damage

[agile mural]

Balance wise you can’t say this isn’t good, this will hit OMB, Wheel and Punch/Burn decks the worst

[tender ember]

Time will tell if wheel has big cripple all only 1 wheel will take damage

[vast ore]

So essentially this is payback for skills instead of getting attacked?

[near hatch]

Cripple all gets you killed

[tender ember]

Correct

Only for burn punch and the cripples ofc

[stark maple]

Ony specific skills though.

Right, what fvan said.

[serene dew]

Goodbye OMB walls 👋

[tender ember]

We dont know that yet

Will depend on the numbers

But first omb will take tons of damage

[near hatch]

There will be a slap back pc

[stark maple]

The Backslap damage can be blocked by Shield and Bunker, so keep that in mind.

[delicate sandal]

How many cards are gunna have this new skill when it releases? Only the new cards and/or combos?

[serene dew]

Oh crap yeah 🤦🏻‍♂️

[vast ore]

Right, that's the same as payback

[night crescent]

so if a card has Backslap, will it still receive the damages from Punch/Burn/Cripple as well as bouncing it back or will it block the damages?

[stark maple]

Only new cards to begin with. In the future, we may add it to old cards/combos, but for now only new ones.

[near hatch]

So no effect to OMB?

[night crescent]

ok cool! good to know

[vast ore]

I saw that answer @stark maple and I have questions

[tender ember]

It effects omb

[stark maple]

I misspoke so cleaning up my wording

[near hatch]

He just said shield blocks it

[tender ember]

True but omb has more cripple all then shield all

[vast ore]

I was gonna say the answer contradicted the skill wording

[near hatch]

One does

[tender ember]

And first turn your first omb has no shield

[night crescent]

will this skill be applied to heroes as well? or just cards for now? same thing for Recover 2.0

[near hatch]

But you only taking slapback from one source

[tender ember]

Nope if they got 20 backslap pcs you get 20 times the damage

[mighty pivot]

cl pa and sd decks are in shambles rn

[tender ember]

So depending on the numbers of backslap your first omb might get oneshotted

[near hatch]

By that time I have 20 OMB in play with all that shield

[runic pendant]

So if bunker or bodyguard blocks the cripple/burn/burn backslap won't activate?

[near hatch]

It’s a zero sum equation without making slapback op

[tender ember]

If damage of the pc is 15 for example thats a big slap

[vast ore]

If I'm understanding correctly, backslap doesn't get revenge with cripple all, only cripple, punch, burn so not skills that don't have a specific target

[vague sigil]

It works with cripple all

[tender ember]

It should be cripple and cripple all

[night crescent]

it works with Cripple All-

[tender ember]

What everyone said

[vague sigil]

But if something is crippled to 0 it can’t get hit by cripple anymore

So no backslap

[tender ember]

Correct

[near hatch]

Sure it can

[tender ember]

Thats the good part

[vague sigil]

Next turn ye

[tender ember]

So first slot bb then omb wall

[vast ore]

Needs to be specified if true since cripple all doesn't pick a target

[vague sigil]

It won’t be game breaking because it’s only new stuff

You’re gonna have to whale hard 😂

So you’ll likely never see backslap in game

[tender ember]

Team is aware of this

[near hatch]

If you watch the animations, a zerod character still get touched every cripple all

[vague sigil]

It says in the post

[near hatch]

Be too hard to code it out

[vague sigil]

It will get hit by every single one

If you cripple all 20 cards with backslap, you’ll take it from each card

[near hatch]

The target triggers the skill

[vague sigil]

Likely left to right until you’re dead

[night crescent]

i love that Bodyguard isn’t able to block it lol

[vast ore]

The post says "When targeted by cripple, punch, or burn"

[stark maple]

I think ya'll are getting this correct. A card that already been Crippled to 0 attack won't be targeted by Cripple again. Therefore, it won't trigger backslap again.

[near hatch]

That’s a tricky coding add innit

[quasi storm]

Does bomb count?

[tough valve]

Can't wait for Kyng to slap my back with 25 pc's 💀

[quasi storm]

I assume not

[stark maple]

No, only the listed skills trigger backslap

[glad burrow]

That’s a highly silly skill it’s a HUGE disappointment this doesn’t punish hijack.

[vast ore]

Ah hadn't looked at the website yet. Having played games that have targeting and non targeting is why I bring it up.

Cripple all is just all opponent cards meanwhile the regular skill picks a specific target. If that's the case, then target isn't the correct wording

[tough valve]

No, it's not?

[glad burrow]

I’m disappointed it doesn’t trigger with hijack I think the idea is great

[quasi storm]

New players will have fun with trying to keep straight what bunker blocks, what shield blocks, what bodyguard blocks, and what slapback hits back for

[glad burrow]

It’s disappointing hijack still has no counter

[tough valve]

I see what Kong is doing here: pushing out tons of overpowered punch/burn combo's and cripple all pc's, cashing in, and then making a new skill that counters them all 😂💰

[quasi storm]

Hijack is fine, just most cards haven't had craze creep with them to keep pace with hijack values

[quasi storm]

It always feels like they simulatenously know exactly what they're doing and have no idea what they're doing

[tough valve]

Fr 😂

[glad burrow]

Hijack is too powerful and has no counter

Right now if you face a hijack + slap it’s basically punishing everything

[quasi storm]

They did the same thing with boost - made a new op skill then pumpd out tons of premium content for it. This will be no different

[glad burrow]

I don’t understand why cripple yes and hijack no

[tough valve]

Are u ok?

Highjack is only overpowered if ur running crazed

[glad burrow]

Or cheer

[tough valve]

And slitghly if motivate/cheer

[glad burrow]

In drunk if opponents run hijack PC wall a bge deck will fall apart

[tough valve]

Highjack already has a counter: dont play crazed into it

[glad burrow]

Maybe I’m salty

About hijack

[valid plover]

Cripple All wouldn't be affected right?

[glad burrow]

I think it would?

[quasi storm]

cripple all is impacted the most by this

[glad burrow]

It’s not specifically listed tho

But I guess they meant that it would be?

[night crescent]

because Cripple All is technically still Crippling lol

[vague sigil]

Guys just read the article ffs

Yes it’s affected

But they should really just put the whole article in announcements tbh 😂

[night crescent]

like how Bunker still blocks Cripple All even though it doesn’t say Cripple All in it’s description

[glad burrow]

Why not specifically list cripple all if cripple all is affected

I assumed it was

But why not just say it

Bunker, shield, bodyguard, sturdy are getting increasingly confusing in what they block

[little ermine]

AI hero does the damage, do you backslap back the opponent itself?

[vast ore]

There's still a difference based on the wording

[night crescent]

maybe because it’s a derivative of Cripple lol

[quasi storm]

Those descriptions are horrible. Motivate is described incorrect, or it doesn't work the way it should in game, take your pick.

Burn is terribly worded.

They're just being consistent 😂

[vast ore]

This is a good question. Since heroes have skills, how does that work?

[delicate sandal]

@stark maple My big question, as it will be critical for NRC, does your Hero’s skills cause the backslap to hit you directly?

[vague sigil]

If my hero starts taking payback 💀 💀

[little ermine]

Like for nrc, hate to lose points because I crippled

[vague sigil]

I’m just glad it’s only new stuff

[night crescent]

i agree Burn is worded horribly 😂

[vague sigil]

Won’t have to deal with it too much (yet)

[glad burrow]

Does this mean an odd number of skills????

Would look horrible!

[night crescent]

well they removed Give from there so blame the devs-

[glad burrow]

What’s give

[stark maple]

We did it for you!

[night crescent]

that white paper airplane skill that heroes have

[glad burrow]

Dodgy can description of the skill be updated to specifically include cripple all variant? It’s a different skill

[night crescent]

since it’s a hero only skill it doesn’t really need to be there

[glad burrow]

And I think the destination between the defensive skills will get increasingly confusing.

[vast ore]

New OP PCs. Bodyguard/Backslap with Bunker or Shield all

[glad burrow]

Relies on opponent

Crazed deck will slaughter that

[stark maple]

No. Heroes cannot be Backslapped. Adding that to the article FAQ

[vast ore]

The rebirth of Stressed Out Leela 😂

[stark maple]

Requested

[glad burrow]

That would one shot all the heroes like robot devil lol

[vast ore]

How does it work when a hero has skills that trigger Backslap? Random application to opponent card?

[glad burrow]

I guess it just doesn’t go off

[stark maple]

It just doesn't trigger.

[glad burrow]

Fourth skill on combos when

[vast ore]

I'm guessing that's the first thing that will be broken lol

[vague sigil]

lol imagine you just instantly die 😂

[stark maple]

Phrasing

[vague sigil]

Can you send me some backslap cards dodgy

For being the first to leak

[stark maple]

Yes, I could. But will I.

[vague sigil]

Yes

Or give me mole hunt mythic

[vast ore]

NGL if I see hero taking damage from it my eyes will probably roll so far back I might lose them

[glad burrow]

Can you send him down the ranks of melee for ruining the surprise

[stark maple]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-omw-on-my-way-stairs-gif-2928539561075127812

[glad burrow]

Now we need a skill that redirects payback+slap damage

Deflect

[vast ore]

I feel like "revenge" would have been just fine as the skill name. Fits the mold like the rest of the skill names

[mint crystal]

I agree, backslap is generally accepted as congratulatory, not punitive. Bad and confusing choice. Change it before it goes live.

[fiery moat]

if they make a slapback, cripple all, hijack PC, OMB FPD walls are pretty much done

[quasi storm]

It struck me as a weird skill name at first but now that I've shortened it to BS it feels very fitting

[little ermine]

Now they need to make a skill called haste or something. Something that triggers your attack before other skills. Imagine going in for the kill with your badly damaged card, to have it pointlessly cripple the opponent, and back slap and destroy it before the kill shot

[tough valve]

This is gonna age poorly

[static sapphire]

depends on the amount of damage SB does.. after a few OMBs you tend to have enough shield to protect most of your slots, only slot 1 would be vulnerable

[quasi storm]

It depends on the number of BS cards on the opposite side of the table but if I have 10 BS cards down that first OMB is taking 10 x damage without any protection

And the second one is only going to have a single shield and then it'll take a lot too. it'll chew away at the front end of OMB walls pretty aggressively

[static sapphire]

it's so situational - I think it works better on defense than offense. There are unbeatable PC decks but depending on the BGE they can be broken through already (except maybe 10 of them)

[tough valve]

Cant see the skill being useful in all areas of the game

[mighty pivot]

Cripple All PC walls are going DOWN

[trim wing]

if a card gets on shot tho? does it still do damage?

[fiery moat]

i feel it does

like payback

i think it even kicks in even if it didnt go through like with bodyguard

[static sapphire]

payback doesn't activate if the card is destroyed

[glad burrow]

I’m really concerned about sturdy and bodyguard being excluded (fine) but shield blocks it

[fiery moat]

i misread what he asked

[near hatch]

Does backslap trigger gas?

@stark maple

I kinda feel like it should

If it can be blocked by shield

[latent gorge]

I get that this is a new skill for new cards but I think the timing is bad we have a Lana melee so a lot of people bought her for that and drunk BGE and now a black slap can counter for the punch and burn. So hit back twice. Am I wrong?

[fiery moat]

its mixes it up

looks fun

[tough valve]

Yes, it's not in the game yet as no combo's with it have been released.

[stark maple]

No? Unless there's a scenario I'm not thinking of. What do you mean?

[tough valve]

I believe its a "defensive" skill, like payback. So, if u attack with backslap, It makes no difference

It can "help" gas triggering by depleting shield on opposing card, so next round there is less shield and it's easier to do damage (and, so, for gas to stick)

[icy dock]

Backslap is gonna be broken

[sweet sleet]

This is my question also.

[icy dock]

The main question is do they know how to code it well enough that it will actually work how they want it to. I still want my guild event rewards

[dull cairn]

glad its a new skill this time and not something crazy like reworking payback
cant say much else until i get to try rogu out

[desert helm]

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[vast ore]

No, it'll still activate. Dodgy confirmed it earlier. It's similar to how payback works, payback still activates if the card blocks the attack with sturdy or bunker/shield

[daring marsh]

Here's another idea for your next skill : "REVENGE x" : if the card is targeted by Backslap or Payback, return the damage multiplied by x .... you can pay me later

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-fish-slapping-dance-gif-27064389

[fiery moat]

make revenge revenge itself too and were good

[valid plover]

Revenge and payback are synonyms though

[hoary narwhal]

Sturdy doesn't block payback

[vast ore]

I know

[hoary narwhal]

Nvm, I read it wrong

[sterile raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-slap-american-dad-gif-10401035

[near hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-slapping-charlie-murphy-chappelle-chappelles-gif-20069417

[lean portal]

When can i throw my money at slapback?, new cards on next BGE?

[icy dock]

The second they make a cripple all Hijack slapback card the game will become boring again

*powercard

[quasi storm]

They said it would probably go live with the next update, don't they usually save updates for rumble? Rumble starts today so it might be in game in 90 short minutes

[stark maple]

I believe tomorrow is more likely.

[quasi storm]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[tough valve]

Perfectly on time to break the game mid Rumble again 😂

[stark maple]

Nailed it

[near hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-monsters-inc-are-you-joking-joking-is-that-a-joke-gif-13964053920673578789

[near hatch]

I know I have a backslap deck already built said nobody yet

[fiery moat]

on friday someone technically could but its gonna be very 💸

[vague sigil]

So what you’re saying is you’re buying one for me and one for you ?

[fiery moat]

sorry im not in BBW

😁

[vague sigil]

We can work something out 😉

[stark maple]

There aren't even Backslap cards available yet!

[valid plover]

Is Rogu coming today?

The homunculus?

HE'S HERE

[edgy python]

What show is that skill from?
And I want to see this new skill in action!

[stark maple]

It's not a specific hand, but there are plenty of good slaps in the shows. 😄

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-mom-larry-fry-leela-gif-4015366636979657194

https://tenor.com/view/systempack-stewie-gif-1054191378339487439

[willow arrow]

So who's gave it a whirl?

Must say 1st impressions are it's deadly 😆

[night crescent]

I did with Barry and Carter

love it so far 😊

[willow arrow]

Lol. Pretty fun.

[night crescent]

instantly CM1’ing Carter

Mom looks pretty fun too

but i don’t have her so i don’t know it plays

[delicate sandal]

[stark maple]

[edgy python]

Well, I figure each skill is from one of the five original shows (prior to Archer joining in).
So, I’d like to learn which show each skill is from.

Some are inherently conspicuous, like that Hijack is from Futurama, and Heal and Cheer are from Bob’s Burgers.
However, others are so much less obvious.

[static sapphire]

originally they were not from specific shows (crazed was a hockey mask) and then they changed many of them to relate to one of the shows. But not all of them, cripple/punch/cheer are still generic

[edgy python]

Are you sure?
I thought for sure that Cripple and Punch might be from Family Guy and Futurama, respectively.

[static sapphire]

They are now. What I mean is not all of them are related to shows.
FG: Craze
KOTH: Burn
AD: Motivate
BB: Heal/Heal all (though it's not actual art from the show))
Futurama: Payback, Leech, Hijack
Archer: None

All other skills are generic AFAIK

[edgy python]

You’d think Animation Throwdown would’ve added a new skill relating to Archer by now.

I remember when Enlarge, Bunker, Burn were added; Joe Swanson was the first card with the Enlarge skill from Futurama.
Burn, as you mentioned, relates to KotH.
As for Bunker, I’ve no clue.

[fiery moat]

not necessarily, skills go by whatever the typical thing from other games have and somehow apply to this game

the pictures may correlate to a show but the skill itself does not

[quasi storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cyril-smack-slap-idiot-archer-gif-5655942