🏅wraid-allied-operation

[lean igloo]

Violet still top 1

[narrow umbra]

Wow that is so tight. I'm ok with 69, not my best but

[polar creek]

not bad

especially since I didn’t use the gamer chair strat

this raid sucks balls tho

Literally 1:30 difference in kill time between aris crit and no crit

[gleaming thistle]

cutoff ended up being 14.02

[narrow umbra]

💀 again I would barely be plat

[dense pendant]

69k nice

[narrow umbra]

I thank our hardcore korean colleagues for their support of our beloved game

[dense pendant]

Despite their gradual decrease of raid players in KR, if they whale harder, yeah

[raven kelp]

How do I get money for my student?

Assistant

[gleaming thistle]

Go to your club page
Press assistant settings
Re-set your assistants and you’ll get the money they generated

[raven kelp]

Thanks

[tough pecan]

What raid is the next?

[gleaming thistle]

Indoor Hieronymus

[pale ferry]

check pins

[tough pecan]

Thanks, i'm gonna search the best team for this raid

[narrow umbra]

Akane/Sazusa/Azusa/Koharu/Serina or Karin(if strong koharu)/Ako. Im still trying serika instead of Sazusa tho

[old flint]

I dont have azusa and koharu which one I should use

[gleaming thistle]

If HC borrow Azusa
If EX borrow Koharu

[bold tiger]

If not both, forget EX

[narrow umbra]

Well, not being able to 1team it doesn't mean you can't do extreme

In any case, for hiero its better to start with your second team and leave the best one for the second half

[gleaming thistle]

In urban, owning neither was fine

Not sure about indoors though

[old flint]

I wasn't sure if I dare to go for extreme heiro

[median crypt]

mood down

[old flint]

but I guess hardcore indoor is fine

[median crypt]

need decent healer since hiero give AoE damage

[pale ferry]

i might need to 4* my koharu.

or maybe just borrow one

[tough pecan]

Thanks, i'm have Azusa, i'm gonna need borrow a koharu

[raven kelp]

Is difference big?

[short jewel]

yes

its a 900 healing difference

which helps even for a "tiny amount"

but 5* is of course still better

[pale ferry]

Tbh i really want to just go ako + koharu but i think it's not enough. I truly need serina as well

[raven kelp]

Kohqry and qkonis enough I think

If you lvl and gear them well

[blazing cipher]

is it better to mari cleanse the anti heal, or is it better to bring another healer?

[median crypt]

chinatsu do the same

[blazing cipher]

does she apply the cleanse before the heal?

[pale ferry]

when i ran koharu and hanae in my second team, i would just ignore the anti-heal debuff because hanae healed so much

[languid robin]

Does s.iori chill dmg ignore hiero defence

[gleaming thistle]

No

[raven kelp]

Dont use hanako as ur healer on this next raid

[gleaming thistle]

I mean, you can, on a team 2 or something

not your first choice, though

[reef seal]

i used hanako for 2nd team last hiero

pepega ex1

lets just say it wasnt fun

[raven kelp]

When u used her ex skills i noticed that hiero gets tough or ur striker team gets debuff attck... not really sure, i mean like i face hiero with hanako before

I'm just a beginner so please do correct me if im wrong

Serina and koharu just might be the best choice fr a supp role fr this next raid

[reef seal]

do you know hiero's mechanics

[reef seal]

either way that doesnt happen

[pale ferry]

it's the other way around. hiero starts with 5x DEF buffs and you need to slowly peel them off via healer EX onto upper lantern

[languid robin]

Laughs in little shun, what defence

[raven kelp]

Honestly no, I'm srry .. I didn't even read its skills or mechanics, i just based it upon facing him before and yeah whenever i used hanako's ex skill

[raven kelp]

But i made a difference using serina as my back healer.. Then hiero's hp lost even more compared when i used hanako

[reef seal]

are you healing the lantern?

[raven kelp]

I guess i did before cause hanako's ex skill is am Aoe type right? compared to serina ex skill

Oh my i figured as much .. Thankyou.. Mybad thoo

[reef seal]

[molten marsh]

Basically you fighting an rock without heal the green lantern

[reef seal]

It's may also be that using Serina with 2 cost lets you pump out more damage dealing EXes as compared to using Hanako with 5 cost

[molten marsh]

If you heal full the green, then it release a defense reduction buff to him, up to 5x no matter what phase you at

Also if you have such as ako, serina and koharu then pretty much its straight full quickly

Do note that after you heal the lantern, there is negative buff at lantern for like solid 15-20s which is cut your heal amount

So you dont want to keep heal lantern if there is negative buff

[raven kelp]

Nah that didn't bother me at all i think thats not it ..

[raven kelp]

I think u have the explanation.. That lantern does bother me and everyone also

[reef seal]

[molten marsh]

One pan no healer run

[oak kite]

Thanks for the 2 purple students exp (3rd is Flower)

Hmm

[faint glen]

might have been serina passive healing the lantern

[old flint]

should I ex5 serika

though she's only 3* atm?

[narrow umbra]

The question about spending resources in every student is: are you going to use her soon? If she is going to be in your hiero team for example, go ahead when raid comes. If not, leave her until you need her. Otherwise you may find yourself one day without resources

That's what I usually do

[old flint]

yeah that is the problem she will be

speaking of which I dunno if I can do extreme

siunce I don't have koharu

and azusa

[narrow umbra]

Then its going to be quite hard to compensate that, not impossible but those 2 are core. Serika can be a decent dps there and you probably need to use hanae already. I would recommend to wait until first day of the raid to see who your club has available for borrow

[old flint]

for hanae since I maxed out her healing

[narrow umbra]

A 3* serika is probably dying there tho, do you have a good mutsuki?

[old flint]

mutsuki is only 4*

but her skills isnt that goos like ex3 i htink

[pale ferry]

how about her basic?

[old flint]

yikes

ex4

4/4/3

[pale ferry]

basic does more than her EX

[narrow umbra]

Still, doesn't seem to be enough, what is your level?

[old flint]

what level the sensei level?

[pale ferry]

Primary DPS: Aru, Azusa, Hibiki, Mutsuki, Akari
Secondary DPS: Shun, Serika, Shiroko, Hina, Swimsuit Iori
Why DPS: Swimsuit Izumi, Smol Shun, Izuna, Iori

[narrow umbra]

Hiero is not an easy raid, without koharu it would be hard to keep your students alive, even if you have a strong hanae, she's basically there for the lantern as her ex is too costly to keep your students alive, because hiero does DoT in phase 2

[old flint]

I guess I could borrow koharu

so the gameplan for me is

[pale ferry]

i strongly recommend borrowing koharu. I have koharu and I need to borrow a second one for my second team

[old flint]

I do need koharu

I dont have a striker medic

[narrow umbra]

Yeah, from your mutsuki I see you are at least 74

[pale ferry]

sensei level 75

because the stamina is maxed at 210

[narrow umbra]

Oh, good point

[pale ferry]

[narrow umbra]

Its high enough, but of course the team matters a lot

[old flint]

of course the game plan is this

[narrow umbra]

First your weaker team

[pale ferry]

Borrow Koharu, pair her up with Serina.
If Serina is there, Mutsuki makes tons of sense.

Second team can be chinatsu + Hanae

[narrow umbra]

If you can borrow a koharu, do it for the second team

[old flint]

mutsuki, (koharu (S)), hibiki, aru, serina, serika?

[pale ferry]

You can also frontload all your weak students first, then finish with your strongest one

[pale ferry]

i am not sure about your serika. Do you have Akane or a tank?

[old flint]

well akane is 5*

[pale ferry]

Because someone needs to tank hiero's autoattacks

[narrow umbra]

I would start with weaker team and hanae, since like I said koharu will help in the second phase against the DoT with her ex

[pale ferry]

wait a moment, akane is kinda bad tank here due to mood

indoor hiero, oh ughhh

i'd go with Hoshino instead of Serika

[old flint]

seriously akane? bad one

hoshino is ok

[narrow umbra]

Indoor, yes. Then actually borrowing an azusa I think its more important than a koharu

[narrow umbra]

Akane need ue50 to tank there I guess

[old flint]

ue50?

[narrow umbra]

It gives her neutral mood indoors

[pale ferry]

even then, EW50 only makes her mood neutral. it's going to be a lot of malding for Akane blocking* the attacks

[narrow umbra]

And since ue40 gives her extra hp, it would be enough

[old flint]

whats UE50? EW40?

[pale ferry]

we want the most stressfree EX clear here, hoshino or haruka should do good

[old flint]

😕

[pale ferry]

it's the Exclusive Weapon of the character

[narrow umbra]

The weapon you unlock when you reach 5*

[old flint]

ohhhh

[pale ferry]

once you have a 5* character, the exclusive weapon is unlocked

[old flint]

dang only 1*

i think

also should I buy Kotama's eleph

in the TA store?

[pale ferry]

get her to 3*

[old flint]

yikes

mine's is 4*

i guess i went overboard

[pale ferry]

no further than that, because you only need Sub skill + EX

if you go further, you will only increase her basic skill which does 0.00532% 0.0532% of your entire dmg output

[narrow umbra]

I guess the best way is to have an strong akane because def down is important in hiero. If your akane cannot survive it would be better to take out another student(besides akane and your main dps) and bring a tank

[pale ferry]

well, just save the materials

[narrow umbra]

This is not priconne where you may brick a character, 4* is just not needed because the difference is quite small, but it is better(again, barely) than a 3* kotama

[pale ferry]

and do mock battle to see how your akane fares

[old flint]

I guess I have to buy elephs next raid for akane and maki XD

or hanae

well hanae felt neglected

sigh

if only there is a voice chat

[narrow umbra]

Maki and akane are priority. But maki is mostly for binah and we are not having one in a while, so you can actually leave her

[pale ferry]

It depends on usage. and upcoming raid.
Akane only really sees active use for Hiero and Binah. Maki is the Binah hero but can also be used for Chesed

[old flint]

so that you can see my progress

[narrow umbra]

Well, maki can see use in chesed and hod too of course, but mainly because we all have her build, there are other options

[old flint]

I wasnt sure how strong she is atm

[narrow umbra]

Good enough, no need to level her skills more unless you plan to pvp with her in the future

[pale ferry]

she actually just needs her EX skill and maybe her Enhanced skill

[old flint]

wait pvp?

looks like I'll hang out on millenium for that

[narrow umbra]

In indoors, with passive skill 7 she can be used in a a1+a2 tanks so she is fast enough to reach the enemies and pull them in a way that the locker won't hit your tanks while at the same time avoiding a sneaky d4 student going around the locker to hit your backline. You also want ue40 for that so she can actually act as a tank tho

Yeah thats a good amount of hp already, and shun won't target her

[pale ferry]

I'd probably want to max my Iori and Haruka. Even if Haruka doesnt see use in Raids

either way, just come back here during raid period and we can adjust our approach

[narrow umbra]

Yeah, I feel like lacking azusa and koharu is really worse indoors

[pale ferry]

I'll look into Ako setups myself

[narrow umbra]

At least until arius gang comes

Most reds are bad indoors except azusa, serika, akari and some tanks...and specials like saya or hibiki

[old flint]

^yeah this is not my forte of a raid

since I don't the the vital stuff

[raven kelp]

Both max maki and pina who does deal more damage?

[pale ferry]

Maki -> Outdoor and Indoor
Pina -> Urban

Maki is more useful though because she has the DEF debuff

[narrow umbra]

And binah has high def

[pale ferry]

Pina is a good sub dps

[narrow umbra]

Another use for my onsen chinatsu, going to bring her to next binah, shouldn't be far from next shiro&kuro which is when Im going to build her

[raven kelp]

Ok thanks ... I should prio enhancing maki's skills then

[languid robin]

Woah thats a lot of pyroxenes

[narrow umbra]

I didn't realize that, @pale ferry is it an edit?

[pale ferry]

Phew, found the image

[pale ferry]

I need to edit better in the future

[narrow umbra]

@pale ferry do you mean to block one or two balls with shizuko?

[pale ferry]

One ball i guess

My shizuko is sitting at lv50 3* EX3

And her EX scales with max HP

[narrow umbra]

How about equipments?

[pale ferry]

Should be T5 but i can always upgrade to strongest tier

[narrow umbra]

With your 3* if you go to ex4 and fully equiped she may block both balls

Would need some more levels too tho

[pale ferry]

I am really bad with barriers. Either it gets too damaged or the barrier hp errodes over time? dunno

Not even on HC could i block 2 balls

[narrow umbra]

However I also understand its an investment only for half a raid

[narrow umbra]

But in hc they are not thrown at the same time like in insane

[pale ferry]

Yeah but i saw a youtube video where the player sets the barrier between two lanes

If the same barrier can be used twice, you could save EX cost

Also on insane i'll be fine with only blocking one of the two spawning balls

[narrow umbra]

In extreme I guess?because in hardcore you don't really need that. In any case Im not sure if it can last for a second one, seems like too long. In insane balls are thrown 2 lanes so its at the same time

[pale ferry]

Yeah, i know that i guess everyone is just recasting shizuko for each ball dump

[narrow umbra]

I think you just need a few levels then, until 69

[pale ferry]

Ok

[narrow umbra]

And that t6 equiptment

But maybe just ex4 instead can make it, depending on what resources you prefer to spend, I would give it a few tries and see when it exactly works for you

[pale ferry]

I am not too bothered about equip. As long as i dont need to spend eligma, i gladly go the extra mile for EX and whatnot

[buoyant ibex]

Guys regarding Hieronimus should I use Cherino instead of S.Asusa ? my team at the moment is Asusa/Koharu/Akane/S.Asusa/Ako/(kotama/serina/Karin <--still undecide)

[narrow umbra]

I honestly used cherino first hiero because my akane wasnt strong to tank, so I benched her and bring cherino. This allowed azusa to take the front and tank with her good mood in a hg/ar/ar/sr formation. In this case the others could be azusa, serika and koharu. But cherino crit res debuff is less effective than akane's def down. On the other hand you get extra cost and save 2 ex since you won't use akane's ex, allowing you to add serika's ex to the rotation(and extra cost regen)

[gleaming thistle]

How levelled is your koharu
And are you doing ex or hc

[buoyant ibex]

plan to do ex because i have Asusa full build as for Koharu 3 star Ex3 Normal7 Passive5 Sub7

[gleaming thistle]

You may want to max koharu normal, and even then that seems like bare minimum investment for ex

What level is your Cherino basic/sub?
What level is your SAzusa sub?

How levelled is your Serina?

I’m just going to assume full build means at least 5* 5M77

Unless your Azusa isn’t that strong?

Who are you planning to borrow, at the moment?

[buoyant ibex]

Koharu max is impossible at the moment run out of material sad....
Cherino Basic 8 Sub max
SAzusa Sub 7

Serina MAX/MAX/MAX/3
Azusa full build is all Max include Unique Equipment
probably Koharu

[gleaming thistle]

Can you max SAzusa sub?

Either now or during raid

What star is Serina?

Well, the special you take depends on the strength of your koharu and Ako’s healing

High investment is needed to run karin

So just go with Ako Serina for now

I think SAzusa would be the better choice

So your team is
Akane Azusa Koharu(A) SAzusa Ako Serina

Hopefully you’re able to get a good koharu

How levelled is your Ako?
Particularly the heal skills

[buoyant ibex]

Max SAzusa sub not sure if the raid shop have enough skill book.
My Serina is 4 Star. And for Ako 5star Max/Max/8/Max

[gleaming thistle]

If you’re not sure, go count
You’ll need all of this

Ako is 1* weapon?

If you have access to strong koharu, you may be able to run karin instead of Serina

[raven kelp]

I think natsu is a great tank fr hieron

Along side maki akane and iori/pina

[gleaming thistle]

?
Do you mean Binah?

[raven kelp]

Pina

[gleaming thistle]

No, Binah, not Hiero

You aren’t taking yellow damage characters to a red raid

[raven kelp]

I mean hiero this next raid

Oh my bad

[gleaming thistle]

Are you aware that red armour resists yellow damage?

[raven kelp]

Sorry

Got u confused there hahaha

[raven kelp]

Hahahahahaha

Nevermind i totally lost it sorry

[buoyant ibex]

SAzusa sub will go to level 8
Ako is 1* weapon lv30

[gleaming thistle]

Don’t bring it to 8

Better to either leave it at 7 or take it straight to 10

[raven kelp]

I'm well awared..

[buoyant ibex]

then i will keep at 7 for now

[raven kelp]

Haruka maybe the best tank thoo fr this raid i think

[gleaming thistle]

Ok
Then:
If good koharu borrow, use karin
Else, use Serina
And you’ll be fine

Any tank works

As long as they can survive

Though natsu is best choice if you have to take one

Since basic skill

The best teams won’t be using any tank

[raven kelp]

Yea she can buff ur allies

Maybe shiroko can tank

[gleaming thistle]

Not indoors

Bad mood means low block rate

She’ll die easily

[buoyant ibex]

thank you very much for answer all my questions and clearly explain much much appreciated.

[raven kelp]

So maybe kirino will di

*do

[gleaming thistle]

If you really wanted kirino to tank, yes, she’d do a much better job than Shiroko would

[crisp tendon]

is NA region slack or no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/793572522720493578/999669619986022450/Screenshot_20220721_092610.jpg?width=386&height=472

[gleaming thistle]

The cutoffs for EU/NA/Asia were quite close, so I guess not?

Or, all three are slacking

[buoyant ibex]

where i can see this ranking can you provide me the link please

[reef seal]

in the BA community server

there's an invite in #905229231741628436

it's under a thread in #896321044284055582 there that keeps track of past raid rankings

[old flint]

I need help on who to use for hieor extreme

I need helkp to prepare

[narrow umbra]

Well the ideal team is akane/azusa/sazusa/koharu/karin or serina/ako. But maybe you can say which options you have on the table

[old flint]

on hardcore?

[narrow umbra]

Also if you can borrow someone stronk from your club, that would be great

You want to prepare for hardcore or extreme?

[old flint]

HC first

[molten marsh]

You dont need tank for HC

[old flint]

well I cant do extreme

[molten marsh]

Just go dps and koharu

Azusa, serika, akari, mutsuki is great pick

[old flint]

sadly i don't have both azusa and koharu

I guess I can only rely on rosmontis shiroko and mutsuki then

Assume this is Koharu on blank spot

[molten marsh]

Indoor theme tho

Aru might not be a good pick since bad mood

You dont have hibiki?

[old flint]

i do have her

[molten marsh]

Unless you try speedrun i go with hibiki for safer runs

Ofc swaping ako

Also azusa is soon at shop too

[narrow umbra]

Can be in the other team too, you probably cannot wanpan the first time

[old flint]

SHOPPPPP????

REALLY

[reef seal]

uh

[old flint]

which shop

[narrow umbra]

I would recommend to use your weakest team first against hiero

[old flint]

:woke:

[molten marsh]

Total assault

[old flint]

assume this is for HC

I think I can one cycle it

problem is though

how fast can I kill

[molten marsh]

Azusa come when insane being introduce

[reef seal]

mind you it'll take like 7 raid to unlock her

iirc

[narrow umbra]

But she uses another currency that you obtain only in hardcore/extreme/insane raids(insane gives the most)

[molten marsh]

Which is at wakamo

[old flint]

oh too soon

[narrow umbra]

Insane is later than wakamo

[molten marsh]

Yeah its called rare coin

[reef seal]

if that's HC

bring hibiki

[old flint]

which Is why I need to at most HC at least

extreme is stepping up if I can

[reef seal]

borrow Azusa instead if your serina can heal 15k

[narrow umbra]

With wakamo(actually sena/chihiro) comes hod which will be still just extreme

[molten marsh]

I think as long as you doing great HC you safe at plat in asia

[reef seal]

mind you

[molten marsh]

Only binah that so far require extreme

[reef seal]

he needs a fast HC

[molten marsh]

[reef seal]

just HC wont cut it

[molten marsh]

Yeah still

[reef seal]

[molten marsh]

Asia slacking

[reef seal]

and those units dont look like a fast HC

unless he borrows hypermax azusa

[narrow umbra]

Maybe you can take a look at our laid-back global/eu server lol

[reef seal]

what global.eu

they dont exist

[old flint]

for serina can do 15k heal

[molten marsh]

[old flint]

well shes at 3*

though shes at max ex skill

[reef seal]

ok good borrow max azusa if your club has one

[old flint]

which skill i should priotiyize

yeah I can

[reef seal]

yeah that's good

if you're attempting EXT, the lantern is 35k

[old flint]

how should I know if she can heal at 15k.

[reef seal]

you really want to borrow an invest koharu

[old flint]

...yikes

[reef seal]

there's a healing sheet

that you can input in their stats to check

uhh

[molten marsh]

Insane hiero is?

[reef seal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JHIPlFc-wxwJppbPthh03u_KUt7f4-rHCXip63LsOcs/

37k HP

with healing debuff from activating purple lantern

[molten marsh]

[old flint]

ok

should i max her

[reef seal]

borrow invested koharu for EXT

cause you'd want to run dps buffers specialists

Ako + kotama if koharu can solo heal

otherwise Koharu + your Serina is more than enough

[old flint]

ako serina would be a good choice right with a borrowed koharu

[reef seal]

also uh i just remembered

that you dont have azusa

so who you buffing with ako

[old flint]

ako borrowed azusa

[reef seal]

then where's koharu

[old flint]

no koharu too

[reef seal]

so how are you healing EXT lantern

it'll be tough

[old flint]

going back I need fast hardcore kill

extreme is out of the question

[reef seal]

you got shun?

[old flint]

yup 4*

[reef seal]

ah nice

so shun serika akane azusa(borrow)
ako serina

[silent trellis]

if you were to borrow someone then it would be best to borrow a Koharu

[old flint]

basically I gotta raise serika first

is it the best way top get t4 materials on ch 16?

[reef seal]

what material

[old flint]

watch

[reef seal]

ch 11 iirc

if you want to farm t4, farm on the stage that drops them the most

exception for watch being you can farm on the hairpin node instead

even though it has lower rates for watch, but it's a better side drop than charms or stuff

iirc 11-2? (instead of 11-4)

[old flint]

tempted to buy abydos stuff on shop

[pale ferry]

i actually forgot but we'll have Hiero during O.Nodoka banner, right?

isnt she like super perfect for that?

[molten marsh]

Yes it is, including pvp too

It just the banner itself is probably will be pretty confusing to pull since its sandwich between ny lineup and wakamo

[pale ferry]

ok

[old flint]

should I pull for nodoka onsen?

[raven kelp]

Yeah she's good healer and will be relevant in pvp later

[sturdy monolith]

Normaly. What qould be the most used units on the new raid???

[raven kelp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bvYGwIh-9o-2JQ4Q2MQXtsL0peiCPrRuw0l3HQmTrZ0/edit#

there's a recommended units section and at the bottom it has the teams used by people in the top 100 for all raids

[raven kelp]

So kayoko is used in HOD? how much should I plan to put into her?

[sonic drum]

shouldn’t need her for extreme, but is useful on insane because of cc strength

heard you need ue 2* for additional cc strength to make full use of her

[sonic drum]

who to replace shun with, i don’t own shun

i’ll have to use a fast hc comp too incase i don’t clear ex

mutsuki?

[shut gazelle]

used for INSANE hod

[reef seal]

Yeah just another AA i guess

[sonic drum]

ah nice

also i just checked

a serina at somewhere in the 60s necklace 5, 3*, 377x should be able to 1 shot hc lantern both with ex and with ns

so yeah, pretty great

[reef seal]

i was lvl 66 with 2* 344 serina back on first hiero

iirc i was just barely above the requirement for HC lantern

t4 necklace

https://youtu.be/sYPTPP9Eo_s

Cutoff for urban hiero was 7.221

[sonic drum]

most likely gonna be 7.3+ this time

[median crypt]

ako existed

[raven kelp]

Is next raid on 27?

[molten marsh]

26th after maintenance