🏅wraid-allied-operation

[languid robin]

I dont have SAzusa

[dusty smelt]

Should I pay any mind to sazusa's skills?

[languid robin]

Instead of cherino go iori?

[gleaming thistle]

Her sub only

[dusty smelt]

I'm one of those people who don't have Iori but played the game from launch

[gleaming thistle]

Sure, that would work

[languid robin]

More dps

[dusty smelt]

oh ouch, her sub is one of the lowest leveled skills I have on her

[gleaming thistle]

It’d be best if you could replace koharu for iori, but your akane doesn’t seem strong enough

[dusty smelt]

Time to fix that

[gleaming thistle]

[languid robin]

I dont have iori

[gleaming thistle]

Oh

[dusty smelt]

level 7 sub, good 'nuff

[languid robin]

And every yellow chracter is 1111 or 3333

[gleaming thistle]

Then why’d you ask this?

[languid robin]

Except maki 3747

[dusty smelt]

This one is outdoor binah correct?

[languid robin]

Field

[gleaming thistle]

Yes

[languid robin]

Huh

[dusty smelt]

Field = outdoor

[gleaming thistle]

Maki will be doing the majority of damage

Unlike urban

[dusty smelt]

I can't wait to do big damage

[gleaming thistle]

Outdoor is what it was called back when this game was jp only

[median crypt]

I prefer outdoor

[pale ferry]

I like Field more because Urban can be said to be Outdoor as well
imagine if 2023 we got more terrains like fortress, hills and forest

[raven kelp]

Isnt forest literally just outdoors

Theres just different maps for outdoors

[gleaming thistle]

Currently, buffing hasumi is actually more effective than buffing maki

But maki will soon get
UE40
EX5
Enhanced M

So that’ll change

I’ll have to try again with 3 def down instead of 2

[gleaming thistle]

The most I’ll be able to do, probably

Now waiting for ex

[leaden aspen]

Gaming chair?

[formal sail]

Ofc

[rotund crane]

My team for binah manage to clear until very hard

[narrow umbra]

I barely did 1 second faster with cherino(4*, t6, ex5/10/7/10)instead of hasumi and karin(mine is ue40, t6, ex5/7/7/10) instead of kotama. Feeling like I would like to fit my ue30 neru somehow, but I dont know until I try extreme if its better than sazusa

SAzusa does almost no damage, just a (not so big) def down that doesnt seem worth until extreme, that has higher def

[leaden aspen]

I've tried S.Azusa and Cherino too. Got 15k+ more score everytime with Cherino. Both are 4 stars

I think Cherino regen is better right now rather than SAzusa def down

[narrow umbra]

Yeah regen is good, so much that today for very hard I should have tried shun lol

[jovial coral]

i need help creating a team for binah

idk who to use

HC, idk if i can do ex yet

[narrow umbra]

Actually, shun works well in hardcore too

[narrow umbra]

Akane+maki+ako combo is mostly the core, after that see if you need some heals for hardcore. I would go for natsu as a tank, since she can give some extra atk to maki. Then unless yours karin is great, go for kotama

[raven kelp]

Cherino+shun is too much cost for HC. Use s.azusa in cherino's slot instead.

Shun is better than cherino in HC since HC runs tends to not last longer than 1:15 mins

If it does run longer than 1:15 mins, cherino gives more cost at that point compared to shun's basic

[narrow umbra]

Well, my cherino also have max normal skill and it hits right before the final seconds, so I thought it also helped, let me try that too

[thorn agate]

Should the gear always be as higher as possible?

[jovial coral]

and who do i borrow from my club?

[narrow umbra]

Most of the time yes, however, there are (just a few) cases where its just not worth it much and better save resources

[thorn agate]

So overall I shouldnt care much about it right

[raven kelp]

Mainly only care about watch, gloves, shoes, hat gears for dps units.

Bags and shoes for tanks.

Necklace for healers.

These are your priority gears to always max out

[narrow umbra]

I few options depending on your club. You could try to use your hibiki and borrow a koharu if you need some healing. Borrowing a cherino can also help. Or even a second maki/ako for a second team

[narrow umbra]

Actually it really helps, you should try to take advantage of these x2 campaigns to level up your main characters equipments

Its just that, as Donut says, those have a great impact and are a priority and some others just help a little

[thorn agate]

Oh I meant not worrying about those few cases, just leveling up more or less blindly

Thanks u both

[narrow umbra]

Perhaps you mean if there is something that you should never level up, as if it would "brick" a character. That won't happen.

[gleaming thistle]

Akane enhanced

[worn ravine]

who should I run in the raid, sorry for all the pictures

these are available support

[raven kelp]

Kotama hanae for specialists
Akane junko azusa(support) tsubaki tank.

Based from your roster.

[raven kelp]

Also if possible, go ask them if they can lend a Maki support

When they have maki. Use maki instead as support borrow

If your hanae isnt 3 stars yet. Use serina instead as healer.

Also make sure kotama is 3 stars

[worn ravine]

kotama will be 3 stars when I get a couple tokens

[narrow umbra]

I dont seem to be able to do better with Sazusa in HC instead of Cherino. Almost improved this time tho

0.8secs more than with cherino. Going to leave it for today, lets see how it goes tomorrow

[gleaming thistle]

Managed a few more upgrades for maki, and used cherino

[narrow umbra]

Wow, great time. Is kotama better than karin when you have 2dps?I dont have a good hasumi tho, at most perhaps neru

[gleaming thistle]

If ex5 maki was ready I could probably have gotten under 40 seconds

[gleaming thistle]

Yes, but not my much, from what I understand

At 3 dps there is a clear difference in effectiveness

At 1, karin’s better

[narrow umbra]

My karin is ue40, t6, ex5/7/7/10 and Im using her ex in the rotation, akane-ako-maki-karin

[pale ferry]

who is more useful, s.azusa or cherino?

[narrow umbra]

Good question, for me it was 0.8seconds better cherino, but it may depend on your investment

[gleaming thistle]

Well, I’ll try this run again with sazusa

[narrow umbra]

Maybe you could try shun

[gleaming thistle]

And see how much better/worse it is

[pale ferry]

i mean, i dont use their ex.
it's a battle of s.azusa sub and cherino basic+sub

[gleaming thistle]

I don’t have shun

[jovial coral]

best i can do on HC

😦

[pale ferry]

buy lots of akane shards from the raid shop

[jovial coral]

why?

[pale ferry]

she will one day replace your tank for binah and hiero

at least for extreme and HC difficulty

and she is very easily farmable

like maki

[narrow umbra]

Cherino can actually tank well too, I have no problems letting any of them take the front so far, lets see extreme tomorrow

[narrow umbra]

I would say buy maki shards first, as she is still 4*

[pale ferry]

sub 1min

[latent gull]

did you mald akane rng?

*and missile rng..

[ruby socket]

It is only HC

Just deal damage

[latent gull]

ooh right

[ruby socket]

Don't let it trigger phase 2

More than enough

[gleaming thistle]

Sazusa seems worse, here

[latent gull]

og azusa better?

[ruby socket]

Maybe because you don't lack as much damage

With my team, sazusa better

[reef seal]

[narrow umbra]

Lol

I remember first binah was hard

[pale ferry]

Nothing at all. All attacks do nothing in HC

[narrow umbra]

Yeah, last phase starts after you ex akane+ako+maki+karin and a few shots

[pale ferry]

I'll try cherino later. I think my team jas better synergy with cherino

[reef seal]

who needs last phase

kill on 2nd phase

[narrow umbra]

That sounds slow, with all the running

[raven kelp]

Just kill on phase 1

[reef seal]

oh you mean skip p2?

[narrow umbra]

Shun gave me better result

[reef seal]

that works i guess

[pale ferry]

Time it so binah gets stunned before 2nd phase, then nuke it down

[raven kelp]

^

With ako. We can literally kill binah at 1st phase

Just need a good groggy timing

[reef seal]

i couldnt bother

[raven kelp]

And a strong karin

[reef seal]

also lots of my run had the groggy bar 1 pixel away from stun

[raven kelp]

Well yeah true

[reef seal]

very funny

[narrow umbra]

Like ue40 karin, because mine is ue30 almost maxed and not enough for that lol, or maybe I just needed some luck

[reef seal]

Have this ss of the run where i forgot to borrow Maki, but was too lazy to click forfeit

[narrow umbra]

Haha awesome

[royal storm]

?

[reef seal]

wot

[buoyant ibex]

Guys, I have Cherino level 51 and run out of exp card, max lv equipment, max sub skill(cost regenerate). Should I use her to do Extreme Raid or use other character (My team at the moment Maki Cherino Akane Midori Ako Kotama)

[reef seal]

How's your maki skills

And ako i guess

No karin/iori im assuming?

You could probably try to run her and mald no missiles, or run a tank instead

[royal storm]

no missles?

[buoyant ibex]

Full build Maki include max UE / Ako max ex max lv 5 star / no Iori sad/ Karin Exskill 3 sub skill 7.

[reef seal]

Try a mock run

And you'll find out

[reef seal]

Oh nice

Well midori and ako double healer

You could try to run cherry

[reef seal]

basically as mentioned

If she's dying and you're having a hard time might wanna reconsider

[buoyant ibex]

Ok Thank a lot I will try

[dense pendant]

7.1M run

Miku run

[royal storm]

ik theres missles dont know what they do tho

if you're talking about the stun then uh

im dumb

[pseudo ore]

Yoshimi's ex skill?

the missile stun thingy?

no effect on raid boss though

[ruby socket]

That thingy just deal high damage

[royal storm]

o

[ruby socket]

Stun only belongs to sushimen's robot

[royal storm]

oh wait

yeeeaaa

ya can you guys help me team build hc

im craving for 7 mil

[ruby socket]

Akane, Maki for strikers

They are core for now

Ako for special also

Three other slots depend on each other

And how invested are they

[royal storm]

i'm doomed

is 3111 akane enough

[pseudo ore]

drop your student list?

penetration attackers

[royal storm]

ye hold up a sec

[raven kelp]

Pretty much enough

Thats the minimum required in EX.

Then arguably might want to level enhanced for more Hp when you get UE40 akane.

Like passive 4/7

[royal storm]

hm

aight i'll keep that in mind

[raven kelp]

Even in INS ex3 akane is enough. Ex5 is for top malders who want one team insane binah or want to go for top 100 scoring extreme binah. Majority will be going for two teams anyways.

Also as a side note max basic maki+sub7 s.azusa+akane ex3 is enough to reach 80% def down cap during maki def down uptime of 15 seconds.

[royal storm]

maki sub what

7?

oh yeah im doomed this raid

dont mind the uh

[pseudo ore]

Maki is ok. Pina... Junko... Akane

[raven kelp]

Im saying sub7 s.azusa

[royal storm]

5* hifumi

[raven kelp]

Oh wait you are a new player

I dumped too much info

[royal storm]

nono i get you

[pseudo ore]

hmmmm

wait ahh...

[royal storm]

pina skills on?

oh wait i'll just look it up myself

[raven kelp]

You can fo go maki akane cherino neru/midori

And specialists as ako+kotama.

Kotama>karin for you since you will be most likely using 2 dps based from your roster.

[royal storm]

pick karin if?

[raven kelp]

Karin if only 1 dps

Solo dps maki for example

[royal storm]

hm

aight i gotchu

yeah but like the thing is

im kinda stupid

i invested incorrectly somewhere

now I dont have mats to upgrade neru or pina

and midori in that matter

[raven kelp]

Neru isnt a priority unit to focus on

Pina and midori great priorities tho

So if you want to pick among the three, go for pina and midori and abandon neru to save mats

[royal storm]

i would go for midori if I have enough mats

everything is at like 0 but i'll try

[narrow umbra]

Gehenna fan?Maybe you can try junko then

[gleaming thistle]

The full prefect team

Ako needs an alt

[dense pendant]

48 secs on HC Vina
Karin crit so well on that snek despite UE40 and EX3

[fast talon]

hey guys, need some suggestion here

so, that's my current students that I have invested in, now I got a bunch of new one, and I'm confused about which students should I invest in too, especially for the binah raid

[narrow umbra]

I would recommend to invest in akane, because its easy to do it. You dont need to raise her skills, just ex3 at most. And its easy to get more stars for her from raid shop. She can help your main dps(maki) with binah high defense

[fast talon]

i see

how about other students? I'm also thinking about mutsuki/momoi

[narrow umbra]

Sure mutsuki is great but not for binah as she is an explosive student. However, she is not easy to use, needs helps positioning herself with other students so her mines can hit. Your azusa can very well do her job sometimes agaisnt a single target(hiero, kaiten robot) and your akari for multiple(sushi rangers in kaiten)

[fast talon]

oh, that make sense

so anyway, while on the topic, which students you suggest is good to invest for the long run? maybe for future raid

[narrow umbra]

Next raid is perorodzilla indoor so keep it up with your natsu aris and chise. Next is Hiero, I dont see your healers there but that's where you need them

[fast talon]

that's for my special type

[narrow umbra]

Serina is a great healer, just not enough so I think that if you are thinking on what to invest now I would suggest to do it in another one. Either chinatsu, that can help in perorodzilla too because she can cleanse at Ex3 and protect your tank(for a second team, natsu is enough in the first) from dying by peroro's laser, or hanae that heals a lot, has +crit dmg subskill and her stars can be raised from raid shop easily.

[fast talon]

ok, so my main focus now is to start investing to akane, chinatsu, and hanae

[narrow umbra]

I would say either chinatsu or hanae, but at least one of them

[fast talon]

hmm, alright I think I can manage both

maybe prioritize chinatsu first

[narrow umbra]

Like, for example, if your chinatsu is just 1star and your hanae 3star, maybe its easier to invest in hanae. Or maybe you have more gehenna mats and feel like can invest in chinatsu instead. Both can do the job in hiero and its still a while until it comes. If you plan on pulling and raising onsen nodoka in the future, don't invest in both now.

[raven kelp]

Hanae needs less investment than chinatsu in hiero

Chinatsu needs a lot of investment to oneshot lantern

So if you want to go economical. Hanae can be your go to. Also she buffs crit dmg

[fast talon]

now that you mention nodoka, I think i will pull for her

is onsen nodoka any good for anything else other than the hiero raid?

[raven kelp]

Oh oh wait they are new player prolly gonna do HC then

Serina+hanae is enough then. Then they can borrow azusa for indoors hiero

[narrow umbra]

Yeah, so I also consider that chinatsu could help in a second team for peroro while doing the job in hiero

[raven kelp]

True. But imo HC perorodzilla doesnt need cleanse units at all. Its just hc with measly atk stats chicken.

Serina/hanae can do the job without much investment to keep their tank alive

Borrow a strong dps and its good for them already

[fast talon]

yeah, I think I will only aim for HC, so I need a second team

[narrow umbra]

Healers are good in many places honestly, until you have a very strong team. In hiero they are just mandatory

Onsen nodoka can be great in pvp too

[fast talon]

so it's an overall good investment to make then

[raven kelp]

Join a good club. Borrow a strong dps for a particular raid. And HC wont need two or more teams at all.

[fast talon]

my current club have a strong selection of unit

[raven kelp]

Yeah o.nodoka is a great unit to pull on.

[fast talon]

i need a second team becuz my current roster is still lackluster imo

[meager crest]

What are some good support units to pair Ako with? would Karin or Kotama work?

[narrow umbra]

Use your ako with your dps and support it, thats why akane is a good investment(and an easy one as I said)

[raven kelp]

Depends on team comp.

If only one dps = karin
If two or more = kotama

[fast talon]

great, just finish leveling her

[raven kelp]

The general consensus

[meager crest]

So her buffs actually stack with others too? damn, no wonder she's so great

[raven kelp]

There are exceptions to this in which 1 main dps+ako+kotama for faster rotation.

In example: iori ako kotama midori/neru iori rotation for chesed

[narrow umbra]

Yeah but you can't go wrong investing in karin, she hits like a truck

[raven kelp]

Karin is strong

[fast talon]

yeah, I would really like a Karin

[raven kelp]

Great nuker and also a very strong stat stick. Can give 10% of her sniper atk stats to strikers

And has subskill atk party buff %

[fast talon]

I think I will also invest on mutsuki, just because i need more explosive students, and a gehenna one for bounty

[narrow umbra]

Try to use serina with her to move her forward, its a little tricky to position her because sometimes she will just run back if not correctly done.

[fast talon]

gotcha

[raven kelp]

Mutsuki mines dont work on chesed and binah sadly.

[meager crest]

Should i just max out every skill Ako has? the EX is the most important one right?

[raven kelp]

Ex and sub. Basic and passive for more healing if you want to.

[fast talon]

agree

[narrow umbra]

Yeah true, maybe I wasnt clear before

[raven kelp]

Nah I definitely just misunderstood it to you recommending to use serina repos mutsuki for binah

I should sleep now

[viscid whale]

so uhh...

[raven kelp]

Its a cheater.

[narrow umbra]

For this raid I aim at beating it with one team for the first time, then after that I will focus on improving mystic a little

[fast talon]

so anyway, what should my roster consist for the binah raid?

[raven kelp]

No need to mind that top 1. Theyll be gone in a jiffy

[viscid whale]

any mods taking notes?

[fast talon]

are maki+akane+nonomi+tsubaki good?

or should I slip in tsurugi/hifumi in there?

[narrow umbra]

I would go with natsu instead of tsubaki for the atk buff to maki. Tsubaki/natsu damage is not important

Try a mock battle and see if you can bring ako/kotama or you need healing. Maybe with healing you dont need a tank

[fast talon]

hmm alright, Imma try it

[narrow umbra]

Hifumi can also tank binah laser with peroro-sama but its kinda expensive to do so, not totally efficient

[fast talon]

my club have cherino

[raven kelp]

Nonomi is bad in binah even if used only as an AA unit. Since nonomi is mainly an Aoeunit and also her subskill doesnt work against Binah who is Very Large sized.

[fast talon]

I see

[raven kelp]

You can replace nonomi with a pina or junko

[narrow umbra]

Since you have ako, the most important unit is your main dps. Cherino is good, but if there is a stronk maki use it instead of yours

[fast talon]

so maybe Maki+cherino+natsu+tsurugi and ako+kotama

[raven kelp]

Remove tsurugi and use akane. Then now its fine.

[fast talon]

oh yeah

Maki(borrow)+akane+natsu and ako+kotama

who should be the fourth?

[fast talon]

unfortunately, no junko, and my pina is still lvl1

my club have a lvl 75 maki

[raven kelp]

Any random unit piercing unit you got. Try leveling pina tho.

[fast talon]

is she good overall?

[raven kelp]

Very good

[fast talon]

i mean, for anything else other than the binah

[raven kelp]

Used in Binah and HOD raids. Two raids overall

HOD is a raid to be released in the future

[fast talon]

alright, i will remember that

also, is momoi any good?

she's piercing, but idk

[raven kelp]

Momoi top tier aoe piercing. Best for chesed raid. Worth the invest

Also a great PVE unit

[fast talon]

which one should i prioritze, momoi or pina

or both

[raven kelp]

They both use different mats and from different schools

So you can build them at the same time without problems

Momoi will be fine at ex3 3 stars for majority of your needs

Pina only needs a bit of investment but investing more on her wont hurt if you want to aim for top scores in the future.

[fast talon]

hmm, gotta start plannin rn

[raven kelp]

3xx4 or 3xx7 momoi for minimum
Then for pina
3x47 minimum.

[fast talon]

alright

after this, I start to consider dropping mutsuki

[raven kelp]

Hm? No dont drop mutsuki

Shes one of the three best red dps for explosive raids

[fast talon]

what....

dayum

alright

[raven kelp]

And can be used in all two red raids.

Shes at the same tier as Azusa

[fast talon]

gotta start farmin then

my students call for upgrade

[narrow umbra]

Prioritize, but sometimes you dont need a good character yet. Like, with that lvl75 maki and your ako you will see you can do binah quite well, another good dps wont make much different considering your level, so sometimes you use what you already have. If they give some support, like natsu as I said before, better

[gleaming thistle]

[raven kelp]

As expected

[gleaming thistle]

I more meant, look at the teams

[raven kelp]

Whats wrong with it

[gleaming thistle]

No maki in sight
I guess VH so fast taking her is worse than just hypercarry iori

[raven kelp]

Oh wait I didnt notice that

[fast talon]

noted, I'll see what I can do

[raven kelp]

Yeah ig thats true

They just do iori spam ig

Iori akane ako karin iori?

Fast iori+akane+ako rotation ig?

[gleaming thistle]

akane ako iori, I assume

and then the fight ends

[raven kelp]

Oh yeah its VH

Not much hp

True

[fast talon]

by the way, thanks guys for the suggestion, really open up my view for future planning

[reef seal]

if only i reseted in time today

could've got a spot

[pale ferry]

why even bother with phase 2 and 3

[lean igloo]

Oh god

[fringe hill]

karinless 😔

[fiery ocean]

Why shun in Binah?

[languid robin]

Hi, quick question, does miku crit stack with ako crit ex

If it does, i replace karin with miku

[lean igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/fubuki-confused-hololive-gif-18015941

[languid robin]

This one

Coz my karin 2666

No millenium mats

Went to other karin

[gleaming thistle]

Yes, it would stack
Since ako’s buff is from her EX and Miku’s is from her basic skill
Different skill type = can stack
Same skill type = can’t stack
Because of this, things like
Maki and Azusa basic skill
Kotama and Karin sub skill
Cannot stack with each other

[languid robin]

Ok ty

[molten solar]

nice pyro amount there

[narrow umbra]

Well, miku and kotama ex skills also stacks...I guess miku and sena won't stack?

[gleaming thistle]

Miku and sena don't stack

Good luck

[steep sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908638256869031948/991423423819550790/image0.jpg

nice, my first 1 team extreme

[faint glen]

too strong...

[narrow umbra]

I will try after eating, going to copy your team exactly lol

[steep sigil]

good luck

[narrow umbra]

positions were good or should I move anyone?

[steep sigil]

positions are good

i'd be careful about the second phase, when it moves for the first time

since it goes for Maki until you get it into the third phase

[narrow umbra]

ok, thanks!

[faint glen]

uuuu can't one team it, need to figure more teams now

[earnest sun]

way too easy
cant wait for the entire game to get harder to account for this one character

[formal sail]

Wanpan is a go

[tall dew]

ako who

[narrow umbra]

First time for me to 1team it too, had some issues with last phase and could have saved a few seconds but ok for today

I didn't borrow anyone, wanted to try with my students first haha

[steep sigil]

Nice!

my Maki is pretty bad xD

[dense pendant]

13.6M EX

[summer dawn]

First extrem clear ever

[faint glen]

I tried mock battle

doable

but I have to throw bodies at it

[pale ferry]

i am happy. this score wont increase so i'd be very happy to not slip off top50

[vital prairie]

hurrah

[narrow umbra]

that's quite sus, almost 13M in 1.08min? I got 13.6 in 2.31mins. Doesn't seem doable, and even less with that roster

[vital prairie]

It's 2 teams

First one was
Akane Maki (A) Midori S.Azusa
Karin Ako

[polar creek]

surprised you couldn't kill with that

[narrow umbra]

ah, ok lol

I guess I should take a nap

[rich bloom]

Lmao

[raven kelp]

Raid too comfy

[shut gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321044284055582/991527627145883718/unknown.png

lower than mock

😔

[short jewel]

Mock luck hits different fr

[reef seal]

gonna mald with ex5 sub M ako tmr

this was 4449

[subtle umbra]

this what I can do in extreme.. so using ticket on hardcore or replay extreme ?

[reef seal]

...

did you just do a real ticket run on extreme and failed

you know there's a mock option right

[subtle umbra]

yes

[subtle umbra]

no

[reef seal]

And if you're below level 70 dont even think about doing extreme

just lacking so much investment

[reef seal]

well now you do

[subtle umbra]

so now I will do hardcore until I reach lvl 70 Right ?

[subtle umbra]

[reef seal]

Basically yeah

Though lvl 70 alone doesnt mean you could do ext

HC -> EXT is a very significant jump in difficulty

[reef seal]

As mentioned ^

[gaunt horizon]

Neru supremacy

[subtle umbra]

thx for help

[reef seal]

[buoyant ibex]

I finally pass my first Extreme Raid thank for help@reef seal

[reef seal]

damn noice

[fringe hill]

11m guaranteed plat?

[jovial coral]

this is not plat secured right? EX is even posible at lvl 69?

[raven kelp]

with a strong maki borrow you could try EX.

borrow UE40 5MMM lvl73+ maki

then use natsu akane maki ??? ako kotama/karin

[jovial coral]

i need 2 teams right?

[raven kelp]

if your ako and maki is strong you might not even need 2 teams

well if you did need 2 teams then you are mostly just cleaning up a very low hp binah

[reef seal]

comfiest raid ever

[jovial coral]

so i borrow maki instead of iori

[reef seal]

Yeah

[raven kelp]

yes

[jovial coral]

who is going to be my 4th?

[reef seal]

A strong maki

Mind you

You got cherino or shun?

[raven kelp]

4th slot can be either midori/cherino/pina/shun

[jovial coral]

nope

[raven kelp]

or even junko for AA if you got her leveled up

just using junko there or pina as a stand alone AA unit

[jovial coral]

let me see who i got

F only pina lvl 1

[raven kelp]

no s.azusa?

[jovial coral]

nope 😦

[raven kelp]

as long as you can fit in someone into 4th slot then its fine

they only need to deal a bit of dmg or become a cost battery and survive while at it

[jovial coral]

i guess nonomi it's

[raven kelp]

although she doesnt work well then ig you can slot her in as a random unit

[jovial coral]

i'll try the mock battle

posting results later, thanks for the help

this is my maki

do i borrow one or i try using mine and save the borrow for team 2 just in case

i can lvl up ex to 4 tomorrow

[raven kelp]

Borrow one for your main team that has ako in it

Then use your own maki at 2nd team if necessary to use a clean up crew

[jovial coral]

@raven kelp

barely

[median crypt]

must be nice to clear extreme under 70

[raven kelp]

See. Bring a healer for your 2nd team if you need so that barely looks dangerous

Wth you have neru

Why didnt you say so

She can work as the 4th slot in main team

Give her at least 3x44 skill levels

You can rotate with akane kotama ako maki neru

5 ex skills but its fine since ako kotama and neru and akane are cheap ex skills

Neru's ex skill is strong

[jovial coral]

all right, i'll try to level her skills

she is 1111

and bad equipment

[raven kelp]

Yeah only give her 3x44 and equips

Then shes fine already

Dont invest anymore on her after that

Since shes millenium and millenium mats are expensive

[jovial coral]

and karin?

[raven kelp]

Karin is worth the invest to atleast 544M or 577M

But hibiki should be your priority

[jovial coral]

all right, if i clear ex tomorrow i'm going into save mode since Im out of resources

[median crypt]

[shut gazelle]

https://youtu.be/1H6Y05OWN2M

[short jewel]

I thought you're gonna use S.Hina instead

[shut gazelle]

AA Hina Sunglasses deals equal damage to EX+AA Shina Sunglasses

[short jewel]

hm I see

[narrow umbra]

Its incredible how a good maki helps. Mine is not bad but lacking some resources(ue40,t6,ex5/7/7/7) but I borrowed a maxed one and went from 2.31mins to 2.08

So if anyone is thinking what to borrow and already have maki, consider borrowing an even stronger one if available

[gleaming thistle]

maki > maki

[reef escarp]

Didn't got ako sadge rip 90 pulls

[solid remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907463386206445568/991673000850116618/Screenshot_20220629_195345_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-wet-wipe-gif-15394859

mock battle

.267 secs left

[grim fiber]

From previous raid experience, does 4* Natsu can survive extreme Peroro without healer?
Or *5 Natsu is a must?

[raven kelp]

You can keep natsu low invest in stars and ex skill if you are using Ako as ako can heal natsu during the fight

Only thing natsu needs to worry about when ako exists is cleansing the laser

[grim fiber]

But my Ako are also 3*
Still possible?

[reef seal]

yes she still heals a decent bit

Just enough for you to get to groggy and nuke the boss with Aris 2 bar+ Ako

Personally I'm going to see if my EX3 3* natsu can survive long enough

[pale ferry]

i cleared Peroro with 3* Natsu and she needed one Hanae fullheal. Depending on whether 2x Ako basic heals can come close to that... we'll see

[grim fiber]

Last time I tried my 3* Natsu need Hanae heal after every Peroro laser

[grim fiber]

Aris is better than B.Karin?

[reef seal]

depends

aris has higher ceiling damage

bkarin is more "consistent"

[pale ferry]

In my setup, Natsu dies within the last 30secs of the fight. At that point i just go all in

[raven kelp]

Arisu>b.karin in terms of borrow priority. Unless you already got arisu and want to go arisu+b.karin

Or who ever got higher invest

[grim fiber]

I have B.Karin and my club support provide Arisu. Both are well invested (5* skill M777)

[raven kelp]

Bring both assuming you have a natsu

[grim fiber]

And the 4th student? S.Azusa for debuff?

[raven kelp]

Yes

Rotation with bkarin and arisu is fairly complicated. You can try referencing from recorded runs in youtube

[gleaming thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321044284055582/991712634422435960/Screen_Recording_20220629-151454_Blue_Archive_1_1.mp4

karin shot bending the laws of physics

[raven kelp]

All calculated

https://c.tenor.com/GyfkaCHQERYAAAAM/anime-scary.gif

[grim fiber]

I see
Thanks

[raven kelp]

guided munitions, real

[short jewel]

Warthunder SRAAM in a nutshell

[pallid cradle]

how is binah groggy gauge calculated?

is it by hit or by damage?

[bold tiger]

by damage

2m

[lethal abyss]

Whats the score for human rights this raid

13.7M?

13.75M?

[shut gazelle]

2m yellow damage

outside of groggy and transition phase

[pallid cradle]

I just cannot get it right in this raid for 1 team kill

what do you guy rotation?

[shut gazelle]

https://youtu.be/1H6Y05OWN2M

[pallid cradle]

why do you use Hina?

[gleaming thistle]

What team are you using?

[gleaming thistle]

He’s a hina simp, just ignore hina being there

Takes hina to every raid

My rotation is just Akane Kotama Ako Hasumi repeat

But then, entering phase 2, my rotation (or sequence?) becomes Akane Kotama Maki (wait) Ako Akane Kotama Hasumi

In an attempt to kill it before it reaches phase 2

Matching the times I use my dps ex skills to a few seconds after maki uses her basic skill

[pallid cradle]

I am using this team

[gleaming thistle]

Why normal Azusa?

[pallid cradle]

for extra def down

[gleaming thistle]

Are you aware that it doesn’t stack with maki’s?

Why not just borrow a club member’s SAzusa

[pallid cradle]

I did not know that

so S.azusa stack but not normal azusa

[gleaming thistle]

Yes

[pallid cradle]

interesting

[gleaming thistle]

Because Azusa’s comes from her basic skill

Which is the same source as maki

However SAzusa’s is from her sub skill

[pallid cradle]

ok. Hope my club has S.azusa that is lv 70 or more

[polar creek]

Akane > Karin when Maki activates her normal > Ako > Maki repeat

[pallid cradle]

thanks

[faint glen]

imagine struggling as i did for this...

[formal sail]

Raid was pretty solid today

[polar creek]

not bad

[past pelican]

skill reset mald makes me tired

[dense pendant]

13.75M with sunglasses Maki

[vital prairie]

Score bug

[polar creek]

that Karin damage is holding you back from greatness

[dense pendant]

She is UE40, 347M

Might replace Karin skill with Iori

[polar creek]

might be better ngl

[dense pendant]

My Iori UE30 5747

[fringe hill]

finally my first ex clear

[gleaming thistle]

[reef seal]

F2P represent

[raven kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/911560577346846741/991872384921505993/IMG_4128.png

Should be plat right

My first ext clear

Could be. But why dont you try aiming higher. That looks so close to oneteam

[gleaming thistle]

[raven kelp]

Might want to change pina with iori/neru depending on how built they are

[raven kelp]

Hasumi

[leaden aspen]

My first wanpan extreme clear

[molten marsh]

My 1st extreme clear

Although 2 pan

[lean igloo]

Ssg

So many 1st ex clears

[molten marsh]

Has to do it

Because in asia HC score now so tight

[median crypt]

true

HC isn't enough

[molten marsh]

Yup for binah is not enough

[lean igloo]

I mean, why do HC when you can do EX already

[molten marsh]

Either you crit hard at HC or just do extreme

[lean igloo]

[leaden aspen]

I even saw Wijen at number 4 ranking on Asia. Got pushed to I don't know what rank. Not sure if he the Wijen in Discord

[lean igloo]

Yeah that's the same wijen

I saw him in double digits last night

[molten marsh]

So yeah

HC wont be safe anymore for some raids

Like binah for example

[median crypt]

[leaden aspen]

Whale guild

[molten marsh]

But i do believe some raids like peroro, hiero still safe

SK also probably wont be safe anymore too

[polar creek]

hiero ex is braindead with ako

[leaden aspen]

Oh Wijen at 22 right now

[median crypt]

shirokuro HC is no more

[gleaming thistle]

Hiero will definitely not reach ex cutoff

[polar creek]

well i think next shirokuro is insane

[molten marsh]

We have to extreme now

[reef seal]

but definitely a lot of wanpans

imo

[leaden aspen]

What we getting Insane already

[polar creek]

insane in september

[reef seal]

2 months

mfw no izuna

isnt first insane indoors?

for jp

[gleaming thistle]

No, urban

[reef seal]

ah aight

still only 1 izuna from borrow

[polar creek]

hope you've been farming asuna

[reef seal]

nope

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936102227943235675.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[polar creek]

congratulations on your shirokuro extreme clear

[reef seal]

3* 3444 asuna ikz

[gleaming thistle]

Mine’s UE30 but not great skills

[reef seal]

thanks

ill 15m HC

[gleaming thistle]

I also don’t have izuna

Will sleep in ex

[reef seal]

i dont see myself clearing any insane

maybe binah though

didnt realise my units were decently strong

[polar creek]

https://i.imgur.com/Jhyrw3r.png

look at all this crap i need for insane

[molten marsh]

You guys already prep insane when i just clear 1st extreme binah

What a dedication gamer

[polar creek]

i cleared every ex except the very first hiero that only 4 ppl on NA cleared

[leaden aspen]

I'm not preparing that far ahead. I only cleared extreme the 2nd run. Except Peroro on the first run

[polar creek]

insane is kinda whaley tbh

at least if you wanna do them all

[leaden aspen]

As long as i'm plat I'm ok

[polar creek]

a dedicated f2p gamer that wanted to specialize in one color of insane could probably do it fine

but if you wanna do them all you need so many students

[leaden aspen]

Too bad can only borrow 1 student

[molten marsh]

Yeah im weak at yellow raid

But binah in here just

Dang

HC max score only nail at 8-9k

[reef seal]

my yellows are the strongest so i have no choice now

[leaden aspen]

and too bad can't borrow student during Mock if already used

[reef seal]

maybe not chesed though

[pseudo ore]

Mystic raid in general will be the communities weakness

given the few characters drop for it

[dense helm]

[median crypt]

process to wanpan every single raid

[reef seal]

srkr has been my worse raid overall

in terms of ranking

4 digits last one

maybe because prior to that my haruna was only ex3

[median crypt]

invest her more then

[reef seal]

shes 5747 on peroro already

rank 120

[median crypt]

make her 5mmm

ue50

[reef seal]

imagine having gehenna mats or codex

[ruby socket]

Wth you doing up there Ms. Healing Box

[pseudo ore]

^ proceed to rage quite at the end lmao

just kidding

[latent gull]

Man.. 2k++ can wanpan now.. top10k getting tight

[short jewel]

well Outdoor Binah is one of the easiest raid, so no doubt

[grim fiber]

For now fast wanpan hardcore still ranked 7,8k

Not all of them dropped to gold yet

[latent gull]

Easiest but resetting to keep survive is just... tiring. Not to mention crit rng too

[grim fiber]

At least its easier than surviving ShiroKuro bomb rng

[shut gazelle]

speedrun insane sure

but actual clears are mostly fine

[polar creek]

idk you need a lot of units

more than the pyro allowance really allows

[shut gazelle]

some people in ijw who clear insane were f2p

wym

like look at causew's challenge acc
theres really only 1-2 insane raids where he's having trouble formulating a plan against
now imagine if you add a touch of gacha there

[median crypt]

[reef escarp]

RIP

[latent gull]

woah

[faint glen]

that's real tight

glad global is kinda chill

but I started late so I'm really behind on building

[lean igloo]

Asia is global

Everything is global except JP

[pseudo ore]

Well.. they clarified Global is EU then NA, ASIA, TW/HK/MO but shared same update

[lean igloo]

Where?

[faint glen]

when you look at your game version thing

[reef seal]

[faint glen]

but yeah, when I said global I meant EU

[pallid cradle]

I am stuck on the Taiwan/CN/Macao server

sad

[reef seal]

"global is chill" dont you guys have more than 50% EXT as well

[pallid cradle]

I guess Binnah is pretty much over. Time to prepare for Peroro

[reef seal]

[pallid cradle]

For core DPS I guess BunnyKarin?

[reef seal]

/ Aris

[latent gull]

arisu

[reef seal]

yeah

[latent gull]

[reef seal]

some run both

[pseudo ore]

if you can finish off the mobs fast

[pallid cradle]

which one is better to juice up with ako?

Fridge or the Bun

[reef seal]

aris has higher ceiling damage

which is what matters the most imo

No god crit? reset

[pallid cradle]

So the team would be like
Aris/Bun/Hoshino/Haruna

Support will be Ako/Mari

[latent gull]

natsu

[pallid cradle]

I dont have Natsu

[latent gull]

f

mari will do

[reef seal]

if your Hoshino is strong enough (stars and basic skill wise)

and a borrowed max aris

you could sub mari out for kotama

cause the match will end decently quick

probably

[latent gull]

ako powaaa

[reef seal]

Otherwise that team's probably fine

[pallid cradle]

I need to pump Hoshino with skill and level

x5 exp/money when

[lean igloo]

Ohhh

Wait

Then it's not chill

EU has 2k cutoff iirc

Day 2 was already 1k EX clear

[faint glen]

yeah

but still more chill because less populated

[gleaming thistle]

even if 1k clears, more chill than every other server

[azure folio]

Its crazy how there still slower wanpan time

[whole cliff]

If i have no iori but havemaki, should i borrow iori and use my maki or borrow maki and not use mine

[azure folio]

From seeing the top player, looks like theres no need for iori this binah

So maybe borrow better maki

[whole cliff]

aaight then

btw

should i use momoi with midori or do i kick midori for like pina

team will b akane maki momoi and midori/pina

backline ako kotama

[raven kelp]

remove momoi

use midori and pina for team

[shut gazelle]

remember

https://youtu.be/Z9nQ8g_sIao

a lv59

can wanpan ext

you guys should up your game

[molten marsh]

[whole cliff]

i got more points with momoi but maybe that's bcs of different assistant maki skill

man istg if midori momoi still does better

ive upgraded pina for nothing

wth i forgot maki has a l2d

[polar creek]

you'll still use Pina for Urban and HOD

[compact ridge]

[gleaming thistle]

Well, finished the investment plans for Peroro/Hiero
there isn't much I can do anymore, except start pushing a lot of skills to M

Actually, I'll get karin ex5 instead of akane

for chesed

[whole cliff]

urban>

?

[pale ferry]

no love for your chise?

[gleaming thistle]

My chise is 5777

[pale ferry]

so you dont go 577M?

[gleaming thistle]

No, not yet anyway, other skills first

[gleaming thistle]

<KR Score Board of Day 2 Outdoor Binah>
EX Clears: 19,261
10k Cutoff: 13,516,371
Total Raiders: 69,708

from community server

I didn't think 13.8 would be that high up

more ex clears than the population of EU

[raven kelp]

frrrrr

[dense pendant]

My Natsu ready for the next fight against hippo
||Cant EX5 cause she ate all T4 mandrakes for Max basic||

[ruby socket]

3 stars Natsu can hold off the laser?

[severe oar]

I just got her. I need to build her soon

[latent gull]

for hc she can

[raven kelp]

She can. As long as you have an Ako to heal her as well

[dense pendant]

13.78m

[fringe hill]

[median crypt]

wanpan and still rank 3k

[reef seal]

hey on the bright side

that's comfy gold in KR

[median crypt]

[thorn cedar]

I’m running this team but idk what I’m lacking to beat extreme. Any tips?

[gleaming thistle]

I think the level of your students is a major issue

Since, for each level you are below the recommended (in extreme’s case it’s 70) you deal 2% less damage

On top of the lower stats you already have

So

My first recommendation is getting maki and Iori to level 70, using commissions to farm exp if you have to

My second recommendation is that you join a club

To borrow a strong character

Which will help a lot

Preferably a better maki

Also, take akane instead of SAzusa

Maki and Akane are two members of a binah team that are always included no matter what

[grim fiber]

There's someone who can beat extreme at lv 67 account
I think skill lv is more important than student lv
Try borrowing high invested Maki from your club and replace Serina with Kotama

[gleaming thistle]

I mean, yeah, student level has a smaller impact
But it still has quite an effect, especially when you’re far off recommended
Not the case for iori but it is for maki

[gleaming thistle]

Even a 1111 2* akane would have more of an impact than SAzusa

[grim fiber]

Yep
EX lv 1 Akane give 29% def debuff
Meanwhile Sub lv 10 S.Azusa only give 15% debuff

Good if you can bring both
But Akane is better if you can only chose 1

[shut gazelle]

someone is wanpanning it with lv59

https://youtu.be/Z9nQ8g_sIao

[grim fiber]

Damn

[median crypt]

@thorn cedar still lack of damage from maki

[thorn cedar]

any skill or equipment in particular?

[median crypt]

I'm sorry but I have better team than yours and still have problem

if you stucked on skill material, try to upgrade their equipments

after that you could raise the level

[thorn cedar]

alright thanks!

[half galleon]

Guys how much score do i need to stay at Plat rank?

[weak laurel]

probably just clear EX to be safe(r)

[leaden aspen]

Wow, I tried the rotations he used and didn't know it was better to save Akane EX. I activated her EX right away

[weak laurel]

i usually do too

but it lasts for 30s so it should be up 100% of the time anyway

[leaden aspen]

I think Akane debuffs drops off for me when they run to second phase. So no Akane buff for Ako+Maki. Looks like I need to delay just a few seconds

[shut gazelle]

@leaden aspen @weak laurel
With Cherino, no need to wait
Without Cherino, need to wait

[leaden aspen]

Thanks, I don't have Cherino

[reef seal]

New cutoff just dropped

[ruby socket]

Sniki that easy

[molten marsh]

Asia is just tight

No HC room left

[indigo void]

Damn KR hell

[shut gazelle]

if you have access to the sheet would you mind sharing it privately?
I wanna peek too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTG-99EA7w

[molten marsh]

Sheeshhhhh

10 pan

[azure folio]

Trolling with effort

[lean grotto]

why would you do that

no way that will last in plat

[latent gull]

sheeesh

[leaden aspen]

More like heel = 4337

[dense pendant]

[molten marsh]

Not me

[ruby socket]

Skill issues

[molten marsh]

[reef seal]

malding is pain

potential to get 13.9 but im not a maldlord

[lean grotto]

but sir

how do you get top 20 rank

f2p and luck is not an excuse

[fringe hill]

Ultra mald

[leaden aspen]

Cleared plat on my 4th account. 4/5 Plat now

[reef seal]

your what account

[leaden aspen]

5 accounts. Got 1 whale. 4 F2P

[lean grotto]

[reef seal]

i rather aim for 14m than run 5 accounts tf

[lean grotto]

this dude has 15 tries per day

[fringe hill]

Gib others a chance would u

[lean grotto]

no

[lean grotto]

[raven kelp]

He probably has a club in which all members are just him and his alts

[leaden aspen]

yeap that's me. can borrow from my own accounts

[lean grotto]

@molten marsh

[molten marsh]

Done

[raven kelp]

im sorry what?

[molten marsh]

I just share the pic

[raven kelp]

1 0 u n i t s ? o n g o d ?

[molten marsh]

Must be desperate to stay at plat

[fringe hill]

And the final unit were actually the one that could wanpan

Idk if that dood trolling or no

[molten marsh]

[charred belfry]

kinah

[dense pendant]

Some malding, 13.78M now

[pale ferry]

i maxed maki sub skill and do less damage. I cant even get a scrub record

[ruby socket]

Somehow

And too lazy to get it again in a real run

[languid robin]

12.6m no ako 2 pan

[latent gull]

ako healing is very good.. makes it comfy run

mine still level 2

[dense pendant]

[gaunt horizon]

Extreme is mandatory for plat 😭 how sad

I'm gonna be screwed when Chesed next comes around if this keeps up. No Cherino or Midori still

[shut gazelle]

https://youtu.be/Io3DoHzdYLU

[past pelican]

[shut gazelle]

[median crypt]

my best in mock was 13.6

[past pelican]

U gave me a idea to use karin ex instead of pina ex

Gonna try that later

My borrow for UE50 maki isnt available now

[next sapphire]

you should be using karin ex

with a maxed karin you get around 500k-600k damage on a single ex if full crit during burst window

[past pelican]

My karin aint that invested so i didnt rlly use her ex

Also i didnt tried using karin ex with that setup

[next sapphire]

how's your karin

[past pelican]

Ill try during reset

3447 iirc

UE30

[next sapphire]

try using her

could give better result

[past pelican]

Ue30/40

[next sapphire]

oh

then 3477 her

[past pelican]

She capped at 40 but i upgraded her gun lvl to 30 only

Aite will try

[next sapphire]

347M if possible

[past pelican]

The max

Not possible

Cant afford T4 wolfseg

[next sapphire]

sadge

[past pelican]

Yeap

Spent too much on hibiki previously

Will try using karin ex during reset

Cant try it now cuz i used up that UE50 maki borrow

[next sapphire]

go try it

[past pelican]

Yeap will try it

Thx for the suggestions