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latent gull
peak sun
reef seal
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Almost 1 teamed

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Had like 33k hp left

latent gull
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why mashiro

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*s.mashiro

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increse accuracy?

worldly forge
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her normal increase crit dmg

latent gull
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so.. hibikiless sensei?
assuming max level, cdmg buff from smashiro is better than hanae?

raven kelp
# latent gull so.. hibikiless sensei? assuming max level, cdmg buff from smashiro is better th...

Its already better than hanae's or hibiki's crit dmg buff with the only drawbacks being that its single target buff and its only for every 30 seconds and lasts for 20 seconds so you need to fit your rotation to that timing.

Also she has higher atk stats inheritance as a sniper specialist so theres that too.

Would need heavy investment on s.mash basic to actually outweigh the cons and it isnt really worth while to do except for s.mashiro simps.

latent gull
reef seal
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Hibiki max sub boosts 17.3% crit dmg to all allies

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Smash at only lvl 7 normal is already 30.3% to a single unit

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Basically my reasoning is, since im running triple def down

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And Maki's mood is already meh

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Iori is the pretty much the only one who would benefit the most from a crit dmg boost

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So a +12.7% extra crit dmg to her in exchange for 0 buffs on others seems worth it

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The rotation that worked with me the best was Kotama > Iori + Akane > Maki, which was also perfect for timing every 30s intervals with smash normal activation

reef seal
raven kelp
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True

weak laurel
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how do you survive without a healer?

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extreme dodge malding?

gleaming thistle
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It’s not that extreme, but yes

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Since in P2 you can make another character (iori) tank

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And in P3 akane can die without disrupting the run

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For a 1 team anyway

raven kelp
# weak laurel extreme dodge malding?

Akane can't dodge binah hits. But she can block it tho. But you need to have a good block rng in which the covers dont die too fast for akane to last longer in p1.

weak laurel
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needs high investment though I'm guessing

raven kelp
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So its pretty much a mix of wanting akane to not block one attack per cover then blocking everything else.

gleaming thistle
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4* and T5 equipment is good enough

raven kelp
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And yeah stars will make it more comfier

weak laurel
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I don't have midori lul

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i just run hanae for crit buff + heals

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my first team can only get binah down to like 12-15x

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wonder what I'm doing wrong

raven kelp
weak laurel
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no hibiki either 😅

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I roll for characters I like rather than meta

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So I suffer a bit for it

raven kelp
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Rip yeah at that point you just mald it with intense block rng. Make akane survive p1, let iori tank a bit on p2, then let akane cast def debuff before drying in p3.

gleaming thistle
weak laurel
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T4-5 gear, most are 4*

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but only maki is 5*

gleaming thistle
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Skill levels?

weak laurel
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might have some still on T3

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well my 1st team is maki/iori/cherino/akane + kotama/hanae

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maki + iori are 5/7/7/7

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cherino's sub is M

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akane is 3/4/4/4

gleaming thistle
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Who are you borrowing

weak laurel
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maki on 2nd team

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i was borrowing iori first couple of days but it didn't seem to go as well

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probs due to maki's def down

gleaming thistle
weak laurel
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oh nah i just can't seem to go past 11.5m

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but i've seen people with similar setups push to almost 12m

gleaming thistle
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Probably because their ioris are 5* and they have Maki basic M

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Have you tried using 3 dps on team 1, instead of Cherino?

weak laurel
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i did slot nozomi in but it's pretty similar

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any suggestions for another dps

gleaming thistle
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Have you tried using your borrow as the 3rd dps?
Pina/Midori/Hasumi/Yuzu

weak laurel
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but then won't i lack that borrow for 2nd team?

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or will the dps push me closer to killing him with the first team

gleaming thistle
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You will, but you may end up doing so much more damage with team 1 that your score is higher

weak laurel
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so 2nd team is just cleanup

gleaming thistle
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Yes

weak laurel
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i'll give it a mock go later

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already did raid today

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still one try left right

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after reset

gleaming thistle
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Yes

weak laurel
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also i have no idea how yuzu works lol

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i vaguely know the rest

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like pina is purely for AA damage right

gleaming thistle
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If you’re using 3dps, Maki usually becomes the AA

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Then you use iori + the other character’s ex skills

weak laurel
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Hmm I see

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is maki's skill too costly and a dps loss?

gleaming thistle
# weak laurel also i have no idea how yuzu works lol

Well, she’s just a character with high focus on crit damage
She can do insanely large amounts of damage with her ex if you can get her to crit, and basically nothing if you can’t
Probably not recommended if you don’t like restarting over and over for crits, though it’s worth it in the end

gleaming thistle
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Too costly to use all 3 dps

weak laurel
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@torn salmon read from earlier

torn salmon
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isnt she more of a aoe tho

weak laurel
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ako makes yuzu good

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but normally she's too rng

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so lots of mald

gleaming thistle
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She’s not that good in general, but excels in urban binah, and can be used to great effect in urban hod

gleaming thistle
tall dew
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almost wanpan reeeeeee

torn salmon
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got 11,587 which is quite decent i suppose?

gleaming thistle
gleaming thistle
torn salmon
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1.7k rank

gleaming thistle
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Which server

torn salmon
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altho its bugged so perhaps the one reason i got to beat it

weak laurel
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we're asia scrubs

torn salmon
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uh, asia server

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asia 1? idk it just say asia

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yeah

weak laurel
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otherwise i wouldn't be able to plat

torn salmon
torn salmon
weak laurel
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it would be cause he said almost onepan

gleaming thistle
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Asia is the second hardest server by the way

weak laurel
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cutoff for EU plat is like 2k isn't it

gleaming thistle
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You’re fine

weak laurel
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and KR is EX just to make 10k

torn salmon
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i seriously dont understand how people manage to clear ex one team for the life of me

gleaming thistle
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Cutoff may be 2k but the score cutoff is much lower

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Our overall population is also the smallest out of all regions

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At about 13k

tall dew
torn salmon
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what team did you use

tall dew
torn salmon
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i could only reduce binah to 970k before team 2 time

weak laurel
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restarting for optimal skill rotation + perfect management of debuffs and skills

gleaming thistle
weak laurel
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extreme levels of concentration and micromanagement

gleaming thistle
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“Perfect management” it’s not that hard

tall dew
gleaming thistle
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Resetting for good rng is the true obstacle

torn salmon
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so a lot of 5 stars, t5 equipment, ex 6 with high skill level is not enough because im "not mald enough"

weak laurel
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you'd be surprised

torn salmon
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altho kotama only ex 4 which is my biggest mistake

weak laurel
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a lot of players i speak too don't know about not cancelling students skills with EX for example

torn salmon
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should be 5 when peroro though

weak laurel
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I didn't either until my friend told me

gleaming thistle
torn salmon
gleaming thistle
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You all had to learn that?

torn salmon
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you dont use ex while students use their passive, it'll cancel

torn salmon
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a lot of the mechanics work like that in ba

weak laurel
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well see my friend is causew

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and i ask him to handhold me sometimes

torn salmon
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the position of the student, gun range, what will au do in this position, how different students have different position even when they are in the same one (as in, say serika maytake different cover if you put her in say, position 3 compared to aru due tio the difference in weapon)

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its these stuff that you really need to learn about

gleaming thistle
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With a friend like that, you should be able to kill this in one team
shiroko 👍

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Unless you started late or something?

weak laurel
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see i used to rage when i serina'd someone to safety only for them to run back in and die

shut gazelle
torn salmon
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its these hidden mechanics that the game let players discover for themselves so we not knwoing that may not be all that surprising

weak laurel
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i only started global and for the first like 3-4 months i just played casual

shut gazelle
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you were the one causew pulled into club

weak laurel
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yes nepotism

shut gazelle
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you got bedded by causew

weak laurel
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skipped the queue causew friends with benefits

shut gazelle
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until i told him

weak laurel
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jks i think there wasn't a waiting list at the time

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also i only rolled for students i liked

gleaming thistle
weak laurel
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so i don't have kohari/hibiki or s.hina for example

shut gazelle
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well just remember

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wanpan is malding

weak laurel
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so heiro and kaiten were fun

shut gazelle
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you gotta mald hard

weak laurel
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i'm just curious about wanpan

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I'm happy enough with clearing EX

shut gazelle
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i still cant beat my score

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2 attempts left tmr

torn salmon
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and its just for the 3rd stage

shut gazelle
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but later on you can do it without ako

torn salmon
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how hard is this tho

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like way more tankier than extreme?

weak laurel
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we'll find out soon enough

shut gazelle
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imagine pvp but with 7 students as opponents with x1000 stats

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thats about what i can say

weak laurel
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random skills?

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kill me now

shut gazelle
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nah

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manual

torn salmon
gleaming thistle
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Yes

shut gazelle
torn salmon
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oh god

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are tank + healer needed?

shut gazelle
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depends on your team

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likely tank needed regardless

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healer depends on your dps and tank

torn salmon
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it sounds like ue really need to whale even more to get this 3 star ue

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for the eleph and stuff

weak laurel
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well it is endgame stuff

torn salmon
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amnd it being extremely difficult to begin with

weak laurel
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at least BA is the only game i mald atm

torn salmon
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yeah i know but still

weak laurel
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genshin and AK ez street

torn salmon
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except spiral abyss? yes

weak laurel
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spiral abyss is ez for me

torn salmon
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well i cant deal with it especially when you need to destroy shield and stuff. but anyway, any student rec for peroro?

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my team would prob be haruna, hoshino/tsubaki, b.shiroko, chise with kotama hibiki. would that be good?

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i could replace any with s.azusa

weak laurel
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need chinatsu for cleanse

shut gazelle
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@gleaming thistle are you guys planning to add a scrimmage channel later on

weak laurel
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you need to either cleanse the debuff from the eye beam or have someone like hifumi use their decoy to tank the beam

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cause apparently nobody can survive it

torn salmon
weak laurel
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except natsu with self-cleanse

torn salmon
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im trying to get natsu as well so

weak laurel
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well you'll be in a good spot

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i'm holding until ako so i need to mald with chinatsu and hifumi

torn salmon
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with any luck., i could get natsu and ako with 38k and have some left for miyu and anniv banner

weak laurel
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Mari also has cleanse i think

torn salmon
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i saw miyu l2d and i know i MUST have her

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its not even a question

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shes too cute

weak laurel
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miyu is part of the bunny squad right

torn salmon
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especially with her fanarts

weak laurel
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I kinda want saki

torn salmon
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uh, rabbit lol

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bunny is those cc stuff

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i mean they are the same but just call her rabbit

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but yeah, rabbit squad. the most adorable character in the game

past pelican
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Collect all the rabbit students

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Theyre all cute

weak laurel
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The way saki cleans that mortar

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her first story is pretty cute

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you spend the whole time trying to remove her helmet and she just takes it off at the end

gleaming thistle
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I have a feeling that I’ll just be answered with “just use #🗣️ba-general and #🔰gameplay-help” , though

weak laurel
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could just rename gameplay-help to pve

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makes it more consistent as well with the other channels being pvp and raid

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and pve can be an overall channel for both story and general content

gleaming thistle
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Gameplay help is for help with any aspect of the game at all, I don’t think that channel should be touched

weak laurel
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also i didn't even know causew played BA
I was just browsing the community server one day and saw him mentioned

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So I asked him and here we are

gleaming thistle
shut gazelle
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kr has more wanpans than asian clears

molten marsh
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Is 6.954 gonna be safe for 10k tomorrow?

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Or is it risky?

latent gull
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too risky imo

reef seal
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6.95 should be fine i think

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bit on the edge possibly

ancient kestrel
median crypt
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server?

ancient kestrel
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global

gleaming thistle
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that's not global, global cutoff is 2k

They meant server out of the 5:
-Global (EU)
-North America
-Korea
-Asia
-Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macao

ancient kestrel
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OH

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North America then

quasi ocean
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hello i have question about raid scores.
How did my 4 team binah clear score higher than 3 team binah ?
Any other score other than time ?

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For example me with someone rank lower than me midoriyes
The 3 team is rank 4049

gleaming thistle
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@quasi ocean Did any of your teams get killed before the 3 minute timer ran out?

quasi ocean
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Oh... I dont really remember but maybe that's why aruhehehe

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I think my team 2 did die before timer

gleaming thistle
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Then that's why

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you overall were faster than them

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you could have taken 8 minutes, over 4 teams
and they could have taken 9 minutes, over 3 teams

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the 8 minute score is the higher one

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regardless of number of teams

quasi ocean
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i see, thank you MarinaSalute

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actually my 3rd team is hoshino tanking and karin ex everytime

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that probably wasted many time

azure folio
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Why split midori and momoi

ancient kestrel
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What are the core students for Perorozilla?

lethal abyss
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Some good blues to use are Haruna and Chise

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You can also use b.asuna and riding shiroko if you have those ig

gleaming thistle
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(link directs straight to peroro team building section, though I still recommend reading "basic info" and "strategies")

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You can ignore the need to build against laser if you're not challenging ex

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and aren't new to the game

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Replace ako with kotama

polar creek
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don't forget sazusa, azusa lover @lethal abyss

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at parity, sazusa is better than haruna in peroro i'm fairly certain

polar creek
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the main thing in a perorozilla team you need to consider is, how to deal with the laser

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which has a lot of solutions

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you either bring a cleanse, brute force heal through it, or use a dummy student like hifumi or utaha

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once you've addressed that, the rest of the team comp is just blue dps (preferably with good AOE)

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and a tank of course (ideally natsu, hoshino, or yuuka)

ancient kestrel
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gotchaaaaa

polar creek
lethal abyss
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I like her but i like aris the most shiroko

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And yes i did forget about her

ancient kestrel
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I know she’s also core for Peroro

polar creek
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but most people will still wanna bring hanae

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a strong hanae is core for peroro

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people usually pair hanae with hoshino because hoshino can self heal one laser with her basic maxed (or 9 if your hanae is UE30)

ancient kestrel
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I have Hanae invested

polar creek
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well people with beefy natsus will bring hibiki instead

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since she gives more atk

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hanae 5* ex4 should be enough to heal through the laser

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7 passive

gleaming thistle
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Shirokos for last clear shiroko

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one day I'll be able to fill a whole team with them

lethal abyss
past pelican
dense pendant
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Crit mald with Yuzu done

dense pendant
hoary narwhal
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I did my best shiroko

reef seal
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no wanpan for me i guess

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wont be able to 1 team extreme raids in a long time

reef seal
charred forge
reef seal
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what sort of thing koharuhmm

charred forge
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oh, sorry
I thought you were still using team 1

shrewd furnace
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secrets

ancient kestrel
gleaming thistle
sullen pelican
last zodiac
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Anyone know what the next ta boss is
All I know is that its mystic
Which means im screwed cause all my mythic are aoe
(Besides asuna)

raven kelp
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Aoe mystic focused raid boss

last zodiac
raven kelp
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So you are safe if you got alot of aoe mystics

last zodiac
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You are saying that momo and friends plush thing hufumi has?

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Is a boss

formal sail
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Yep

raven kelp
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Yeah

last zodiac
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Jesus

raven kelp
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||Actually not really. Its just that "the library of lore" took peroro as its appearance or form||

last zodiac
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Ah thats pretty funny

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Still feel sorta screwed with this team

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I can replace asuna with a assistant tho

raven kelp
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You need a tank for peroro raid

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And yeah you can replace og asuna with a borrowed Arisu or B.karin

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B.asuna and c.shiroko you can replace with chise/haruna/s.azusa

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As for izuna put tsubaki or hoshino in her spot

molten marsh
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Next raid peroro terrain is?

raven kelp
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Indoors

molten marsh
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It means team is aris, s.azusa, haruna and etc?

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Any gimmick?

raven kelp
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None. Just get good at aiming with arisu

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And you need mari/chinatsu for comfy clears(less score potential)
or hanae(higher score potential but needs investment, stars4/5 and ex4/5)

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If you have natsu you will still need hanae unless natsu is 5 stars EX5 which means you can go for hibiki instead

molten marsh
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Mari is?

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Chinatsu is evasion healer right?

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Im not planing to pull natsu and only plan secure ako, and i need tank?

last zodiac
latent gull
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mari who?

lethal abyss
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What are the artifact drops of next raid?

raven kelp
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She can cleanse debuffs

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Needs ex3 tho

molten marsh
raven kelp
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Mari is the nun

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Shield+cleanse

molten marsh
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Oh

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That thing

lethal abyss
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Thing

molten marsh
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That device i run out

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Hoshino, hibiki, aris use that

lethal abyss
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Not next next raid

raven kelp
lethal abyss
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No i need it like

raven kelp
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Theres a natsu log in event for 7 days

lethal abyss
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Now

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Oh what

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What do u get from that

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I just need about 6-7 t2 aether to get EX5 kotama for perorodzilla extreme

raven kelp
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Check the one between decagrammation and bunny

lethal abyss
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Aether doko

raven kelp
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Aether is gone

latent gull
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what event is next

lethal abyss
raven kelp
lethal abyss
lethal abyss
raven kelp
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Yes

lethal abyss
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Mandrakes,aether

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New artis for ako

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I need all those

shut gazelle
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failed to push human rights threshold higher

raven kelp
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Today is last day right? Welp gg serikaweary

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Cant wait for peroro tho

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I want my chicken

lethal abyss
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I want KFC

raven kelp
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Thicc arisu

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I wanna see your UE 3 stars arisu when peroro comes

lethal abyss
shut gazelle
lethal abyss
raven kelp
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Or elephs

lethal abyss
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Dont you need to get to level 30 UE first

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Before you can UE2*

raven kelp
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The levels are the one that needs weapon mats

raven kelp
lethal abyss
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So you can just

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Limit break

raven kelp
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Yeah

lethal abyss
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But not have it leveled

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Aight

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Enhanced skill+ shiroko

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Is that enough for wanpan peroro tho

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Im worried still

raven kelp
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Yeah should be. Borrow a 5xMx B.karin as well

lethal abyss
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Thats gonna have to depend on my club lmfao shiroko

raven kelp
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If played correctly you can even do it in around 3 minutes

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With 1 minute or less time to spare

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shiroko since you got a strong arisu

lethal abyss
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I've seen a crap ton of those peroro raid videos so i sorta know how to aim it

lethal abyss
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Maybe it'll be enough if i mald for each Aris EX to crit??

raven kelp
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The problem is. You need a 5 stars ex4/5 hanae+hoshino x9xx or xMxx or a natsu for wanpan

lethal abyss
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Nah i dont got that la

raven kelp
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Uh yeah

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You can go mald with two teams then.

lethal abyss
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🚮

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Well there goes my wanpan peroro dream before ako

raven kelp
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Cause you will be forced to bring chinatsu or mari or a redirect strat with hifumi/utaha

lethal abyss
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Unless i can borrow a natsu

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But this is all

raven kelp
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Or you can just borrow a natsu or max hanae

lethal abyss
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Literally dependent on my club

latent gull
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Mari is trinity too?

raven kelp
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Since you already have a max arisu

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You can just borrow a max hanae from club if they have one or built natsu 5 stars 5Mxx

lethal abyss
latent gull
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I'm kinda short on trinity blueray damnit

lethal abyss
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My club has this shiroko

latent gull
raven kelp
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Just pray they have a 5 stars 5Mxx natsu prepared

lethal abyss
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Praying to god please

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My dream of pre-ako wanpan lives on this

raven kelp
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Actually wanpan still possible with a lvl 73 natsu that isn't 5Mxx 5 stars.
Just that you will have to spare some costs on healing her every so often with hanae

lethal abyss
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Oh yeah t6 equipment also

raven kelp
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Which will make your run tighter to do

lethal abyss
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Ill have that ready for the peroro raid ig

lethal abyss
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Literally funneling so much resources into aris

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Crappy basic and sub skill yuuka

raven kelp
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キャラ名 育成度 スキルレベル/装備T 固有武器
 ホシノ ☆5 lv75 3MM7/665 ☆1lv30
水アズサ ☆5 lv75 5MMM/665 ☆2lv40
 アリス ☆5 lv75 5888/665 ☆2lv39 (助っ人)
 ハルナ ☆5 lv75 5MMM/655 ☆1lv30
 ハナエ ☆5 lv75 578M/555 ☆1lv30
 コタマ ☆3 lv74 541M/665 -

やっと1凸できました
サークルのつよつよつよつよアリスに大感謝

▶ Play video
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For references this is a natsuless run

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This is why hanae is necessary pre-ako era for wanpan ex peroro

lethal abyss
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Theres one more indoor before ako right

raven kelp
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Nah. 2nd peroro is ako era

lethal abyss
latent gull
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hanae for buff?

lethal abyss
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Crit dmg yes

latent gull
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why not hibiki

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or s.mashiro

raven kelp
# latent gull why not hibiki

Yeah go try that and have your tank die. Even natsu will slowly die without healer. Only a 5* natsu EX5 can survive alone without heal from ako/hanae/mari/chinatsu

lethal abyss
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Smash is 🚮

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I stand by that

ancient kestrel
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not for pvp

lethal abyss
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I aint no pvp nut

lethal abyss
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They won't be properly built riht

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Since they wont have the artifacts for her

raven kelp
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They will have enough artifacts to get her at least 3447 before raid ends atleast

lethal abyss
raven kelp
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Since the ako decagrammation event is good

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Then 544M by the end of event

ancient kestrel
lethal abyss
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I guess ill have a 3447 ako by the end of peroro 2nd raid then

raven kelp
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Yeah plan accordingly

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Artifact selectors can help you out on that

lethal abyss
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3447+my team should be easy wanpan right???

raven kelp
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Yeah it is

lethal abyss
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Das it

raven kelp
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Or you can just build your own hanae already

lethal abyss
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Wont that conflict with ako

ancient kestrel
lethal abyss
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Yeah i do want to build her ofc

raven kelp
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Nah just for 1st peroro

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After that hanae wont be used as often. But you will have to build her for JE in the future anyways so

lethal abyss
#

I think 4* 4447 hanae is all i can muster up before the end of 1st peroro?

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Or 4* 4477

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I dont care about kaiten urban i can 2 team extreme that

raven kelp
lethal abyss
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Why did my crappy club rush 5* 5MMM s.hina right after her release

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I want Natsu and b.karin borrow aronabam

raven kelp
silent trellis
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unfortunate

lethal abyss
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Anger

silent trellis
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my b.karin is almost built tho

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preparing for perozilla

lethal abyss
#

Hk,Tw server isolation aruseriously

silent trellis
#

just going to wait for sserver reset to finish her

weak laurel
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i'm raising chinatsu for peroro, what's a good level to keep her at?

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will 60 suffice

raven kelp
weak laurel
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yeah got her to EX3

raven kelp
#

Let me check peroro laser damage on a non-debuffed enemy brb

weak laurel
#

i usually keep supports at around 60-65

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i don't plan to pull for natsu or mari so she's my clutch

raven kelp
#

Peroro deals at most 22k against a lvl 73 hoshino with max passive if she didnt get def downed due to cleanse

Chinatsu lvl 73 ex3 passive 4 t5 necklace will heal at most 25k hp

reef seal
#

i wanna pull for mari

raven kelp
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Which is good enough imo

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@weak laurel

reef seal
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I just got kotama to 73 this raid aronajoy

weak laurel
#

so i should push her to 73?

raven kelp
#

Its good enough cause hoshino also has her basic skill to heal her up

reef seal
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Chinatsu?

weak laurel
#

i was planning to use tsubaki

reef seal
#

If you need the healing higher level is better

raven kelp
#

Nah lvl 70 is fine. Just get chinatsu skills to 3x7x at least 3 stars lvl 70

reef seal
#

Tsubaki not really recommended for peroro

raven kelp
#

Should be enough to get 25k+ healing along with cleanse

reef seal
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Since the chimkin has like 2000 accuracy?

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And AAs apparently hurt her a lot

raven kelp
weak laurel
#

hmm guess i gotta build hoshino too then

reef seal
#

Ive seen people suggesting to use Yuuka

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Not sure how that works though

raven kelp
#

Yeah Im gonna use 4 stars lvl 74-75 yuuka

reef seal
#

Does she need 4*

raven kelp
#

My hanae is 5 stars 5x7M

lethal abyss
raven kelp
reef seal
raven kelp
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I would love my yuuka to be 5 stars for peroro ex

weak laurel
#

my chinatsu is 5* cause i just bought her eligmas from raid shop

raven kelp
reef seal
raven kelp
#

Badge = more healing received

reef seal
#

souka

raven kelp
#

So she can pretty much be always full hp after laser when combined with hanae heal

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Brute forcing everything

reef seal
#

but raise her more if you cant survive i guess

weak laurel
#

too late i already 70'ed her haha

raven kelp
#

Thats fine

reef seal
#

kekw

weak laurel
#

ahh well higher is safer

raven kelp
#

More comfy

reef seal
weak laurel
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i like chinatsu more now cause i saw her onsen l2d recently

raven kelp
#

I prefer nodoka onsen l2d

weak laurel
#

but she's between ako and ny units so i must skip

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sadge

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do you still need a cleanse for the eye beam on HC?

raven kelp
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No

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You just kill peroro without worrying about heals

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You do still need a tank tho

turbid depot
#

any information about perorodzila? guide or smt

shut gazelle
turbid depot
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aim for?

shut gazelle
#

aiming your skills

turbid depot
#

does the boss have dmg reduction when the mobs still alive?

shut gazelle
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no

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but you want to aim your skills to hit as many mobs as possible

latent gull
#

aim to what

ancient kestrel
#

Aim at the minions and at Perorozilla

turbid depot
#

i read natsu ult can clean debuff, so the boss has some kind of debuff right?

shut gazelle
#

is it really that hard to understand

shut gazelle
turbid depot
#

dang

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another debuff cleanser besides her?

ancient kestrel
#

nope

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she’s the only one so far

burnt spindle
#

Chinatsu at ex3+ and Mari cleanse

turbid depot
#

so mari is enough right?

burnt spindle
#

Maybe for the super laser alone, but there's also the mini peroro shooting at the rest of your team. Will probably needan actual healer in addition to Mari.

turbid depot
#

serina / hanae?

burnt spindle
#

Serina

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Well, I'd like to fight peroro to confirm anything

lethal abyss
#

Your backline wont get hurt

turbid depot
#

aight thx aruhehehe

lethal abyss
#

The only times they will is during phase 2 transition

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But that won't kill anybody

turbid depot
#

so i guess hanae is better? she's giving cdmg buff too..

lethal abyss
#

You'd need a cleansing healer if you dont have natsu

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Sure hanae is good since she gives crit dmg buff

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But hanae needs to be

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Very built

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To be able to brute force through the -9999 def debuff

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Unless you're doing HC and not extreme then just do whatever you want and you'll clear it

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Its easy

turbid depot
#

are mari and hanae for the special will do?

lethal abyss
#

Thats fine

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The crit dmg boost is nice

turbid depot
#

the debuff with -9999 def only target the tank right?

lethal abyss
#

Any student closest to peroro

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So if its the tank then its the tank

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Not even student even

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Any unit on your side

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So things like utaha's turret and hifumi's doll can also take the laser

turbid depot
#

is it possible to beat ext with 1 team?

gleaming thistle
#

Yes

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But as usual, the correct characters have to be maxed

turbid depot
#

which one is better? s azusa or chise? 🤔

bold tiger
#

of course s.azusa

turbid depot
#

aight noted aruhehehe

weak laurel
#

Hmm I'll probably need at least 2-team clear

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Should I split my DPS across teams or just go all in on first team

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First team will likely only have Chinatsu instead of Hanae so I'll lose crit buff

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unless i run them both

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but was thinking of running Kotama

gleaming thistle
#

All in first team, there's no need to pace yourself

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Hanae/Kotama would be the best set of supports for this raid, damage-wise

weak laurel
#

Unfortunately I need Chinatsu for the cleanse in first team

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Hoping I can 2-team with Hifumi decoy tank second team

gleaming thistle
#

Your hanae isn't built?

weak laurel
#

she is

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but should i use both hanae and chinatsu for team 1?

turbid depot
#

can i use hoshino to replace natsu? 🤔

shut gazelle
shut gazelle
turbid depot
gleaming thistle
turbid depot
gleaming thistle
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No

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Without cleanse, you're aiming to heal all the damage the laser inflicted, and then some

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so it requires very high investment

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5* EX4 should perform well

weak laurel
#

My hanae is 5* but can't remember EX level

turbid depot
tacit plinth
#

Is b karin strong enough to replace arisu?

pale ferry
#

i hope 5* 3444 chinatsu is enough

lethal abyss
#

A use anyways even if you dont have aris

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Although aris I'd still say is better for peroro

olive hatch
#

Can use either or both

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BKarin better eventually for insane, Aris better before then

lethal abyss
#

Iroha better than both eventually shiroko

reef seal
#

but you're gonna want to use all 3 anyway

reef seal
#

Is your BKarin strong enough to replace arisu?

raven kelp
#

With a lot of investment

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Well according to stokkie anyways I haven't actually done any testing

charred forge
reef seal
#

Bkarin easier to aim

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Since she hits all anyway

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Aris needs a bit more timing and aiming

charred forge
#

BKarin can't hit Perorozilla on the 2nd cycle with only 3 perorominions where they line up

reef seal
#

oh

rich dock
reef seal
#

looks good enough for HC

latent gull
#

you didnt farm exp yesterday?

molten marsh
#

If you plan to pull natsu then swap yuuka to natsu

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Otherwise that team is ok probably

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But gonna be a problem if your main dps gets debuff

rich dock
rich dock
molten marsh
#

Yeah because that kinda hurt

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If you have raised chinatsu then use her instead of serina

rich dock
#

Okay i'll build chinatsu rn

gleaming thistle
#

You do not need to cleanse yuuka, but you do need good healing
The debuff isn’t as much as a danger to her as it is other characters because she has no def to be reduced

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By no I mean around 100 compared to a bag tank’s 1.8k

latent gull
rich dock
#

I always used Serina because it's cheap skill cost

gleaming thistle
#

You might be able to just use Serina here too, if you’re only challenging HC

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Get her (and Yuuka) to level 73 if you can though

rich dock
gleaming thistle
#

Hanae and Chinatsu would be the best healer options for EX
Chinatsu because she can cleanse the debuff from laser, as well as give a large heal
Hanae because her heal is so strong that she can heal all the damage dealt to your tank, even without the debuff being removed

olive hatch
#

Hanae is solid, gives damage and healing

rich dock
#

Whoa waa

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Really thanks for the advice sensei

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I'll build them too

gleaming thistle
#

Note:
Chinatsu needs to be at least EX3 in order to cleanse
In EX, Hanae needs to be at a very high investment level in order to heal the amount she needs to. 5* EX4 Enhanced 7 should work well enough

rich dock
#

Okay sensei, i'll note that in my memo

mental pulsar
#

thx bot

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good enough for Pero HC?

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dunno bout 2nd special

molten marsh
#

Its already safe

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Alhough bringing tank more favorable

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Or s.tsurugi works

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You dont have aris?

mental pulsar
#

0 lvling

molten marsh
#

Hmm she is bis pero tho

mental pulsar
#

I received her quite recently

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like, right b4 b.Karin

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and I was prioritizing her over Aris

molten marsh
#

I mean b.karin is great too but imo aris is for the big chunk

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If you can raise aris rn she can be replacement of chise or haruna

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But with that team i sure you already secured HC easyly

mental pulsar
#

nah, I spent all my Millenium mats and BR

molten marsh
mental pulsar
mental pulsar
molten marsh
shut gazelle
median crypt
#

here we go again

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bimonthly raid meme

molten marsh
#

Yeah always check raid section for bimonthly meme

summer dawn
#

peroror without haruna and aris ... will be hard ...

gleaming thistle
#

Why haven't you farmed haruna by now?

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Actually, nevermind

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still though, make sure you farm her and get her asap

summer dawn
#

i have her at 160/120 but i think it kinda a waste to claim her ...

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same for neru and karin ahahaha ...

polar creek
#

waiting for spook is heavy copium

gleaming thistle
#

It’s not a waste if you need her

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And it seems like having her would help a lot at the moment

summer dawn
#

ahahah exept izuna and s.azusa none of my blue dmg are well build ...

pale ferry
#

How viable is using S.Tsurugi for Peroro?
she does Mystic dmg and has really good indoor mood

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she also has a bag, is she viable as a tank?

gleaming thistle
#

Maybe usable as main tank if you cleanse, and have her at 5*

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Her hp is quite low

pale ferry
#

i'll be having Chinatsu as main healer.

gleaming thistle
#

For a tank
Mostly because she’s not even a dedicated tank

pale ferry
#

so people without Natsu will primarily go with Hoshino?

gleaming thistle
#

Yes

pale ferry
#

thanks, maybe STsurugi gonna sit out this time

dense pendant
fast crag
#

Me be like :

Here we go...

latent gull
rich dock
ancient kestrel
copper oxide
#

any suggestions for students of this up can coming TA?

pseudo ore
#

Haruna, Aris, S.Azusa/Chise, a stronk tank
healer (that is not serina?) & kotama

copper oxide
pseudo ore
#

should be fine for striker for as long as you can quickly damage the minions/mini-minions in 1 Haruna's ex skill

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No Aris so... Chise for AoE attack eh?

copper oxide
#

guess so

pseudo ore
#

haruna, S.Aris, Chise...... Tsurugi Summer can tank right?

copper oxide
#

or bunny Karin because her Ex skill is a spread

pseudo ore
#

oh... No Karin Bunny so...

copper oxide
#

she can sorta tank

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so this a good lineup?

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dw ill be leveling them up

pseudo ore
#

haven't heard the placement for Haruna....

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some JP HC run, Aris & Haruna on both edge of the formation.

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^ sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHFKrv1rEjA

molten marsh
#

But if your s.tsurugi is not fat yet you can use natsu if you plan to pull her or if not hoshino

river locust
#

Is it possible to do extreme without natsu

bold tiger
#

Hoshino is her substitution

gleaming thistle
#

Yes, it is possible to do extreme without natsu

obtuse sky
#

You need to invest in hanae and chinatsu

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If you don't plan on pulling natsu

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Your tank won't live without them

obtuse sky
turbid depot
#

so if my tank is hoshino, then the special will be hanae and chinatsu?

molten marsh
#

1 healer is fine, no need 2....just pick whichever stronger you have

gilded mountain
#

#ask
Which should I raise to defeat peroro, guys?

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They are so low built

raven kelp
#

Since you wouldnt be able to upgrade b.karin to useable levels at short time span, your best bet rn is arisu

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And arisu has the best dmg per cost ratio at equal investments as b.karin

gilded mountain
#

Okay

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Is it worth to star up aris to 5?

raven kelp
#

She is. Tho in the future you need some clever tricks to keep her alive in peroro insane

gilded mountain
#

Okay, I note it

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EQ tier recommedation?

raven kelp
#

T5 hat and charm

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Just max all her gears if possible

gilded mountain
#

Okay, thank you and good luck 👍

frail lotus
#

Wait, @raven kelp , are you saying that Aris is better than B.Karin at max investment? I thought B.Karin was BIS?

raven kelp
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Both are BiS

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And yes Arisu deals alot more than b.karin in indoors peroro due to her high multiplier and high atk stats.

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Only downside is she is very bad mood in outdoors peroro. And she is mystic armor. So she pretty much needs some life saving tricks to keep alive in insane difficulty

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She becomes the subteam dps in insane with iroha.
Then mainteam dps are b.karin and iroha

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Subteam: arisu iroha
Mainteam: b.karin iroha

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Basically

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@frail lotus

frail lotus
#

Very cool, thank you for the breakdown. So both are ultimately useable.

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I've gotten the impression from some players that they exist in the same niche, so you should only invest in one

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but breaking it out into the two phases makes a lot of sense !

raven kelp
# frail lotus but breaking it out into the two phases makes a lot of sense !

Yeah. Anyways heres the top team peroro insane. They are using retreat strat for the subteam which has arisu in it.
https://youtu.be/BB6h06MnNB4

スヤ先Twitterはこちら
https://twitter.com/suyachive

★★★1凸目★★★
マリナ   星3 3/7/4/1
ワカモ   完凸
水着アズサ 完凸
アリス   完凸

温泉ノドカ 固有1 5/7/M/M
ヒビキ   完凸

★★★2凸目★★★
正月ムツキ 完凸
ナツ    固有2 5/M/M/7
ウイ    固有1 5/9/7/7
バニカリ  完凸

イロハ   完凸
アコ    固有2 5/M/7/M

▶ Play video
frail lotus
#

I didn't even know you could retreat and re-enter until the Heiro re-run, so this is a new way of thinking of victory to me

#

What's an ideal team comp for this initial pererererero raid?

#

Haruna, B.Karin/Aris, Chise, S.Azusa?

raven kelp
#

Currently? Best team will have arisu, b.karin, natsu, s.azusa kotama in it. With either hanae or hibiki as crit dmg buffer(depending on investment in tank)

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Mostly it will be hanae tho as a medium investment natsu can barely survive on her own without healing from another student.

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Natsuless 1 team extreme comps will have either of arisu or b.karin, with a very strong hanae(5 stars, 5x7M at least)

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For standard 2 team or so comps you will need to bring mari or chinatsu
Or you can go for the redirect strat using hifumi or utaha.

bold tiger
raven kelp
#

They just used their ui for rotation so its fine mutsukiahahaha

pale ferry
#

Lets talk about prediction on raid mats rewards. Is it going to be ether, please say yes ohje

#

Please dont let it be phaistos or nebra

molten marsh
#

The pattern will always be same like that

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Device - lens, aether - crystal, codex - book, disc - gear box, and iron - liquid

lethal abyss
#

I need

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Aether

#

Im

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Dying

pale ferry
#

I guess i gotta peroro with EX3 SAzusa

molten marsh
#

Maybe censored the other thing too, just saying since its potentially get warn shiroko

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But the naming up to you

pale ferry
#

Yeah i better delete it, it's super offensive

#

I may offend people

rich dock
#

about chinatsu gear, up all of it?

reef seal
#

gear is fine since she pretty much only needs necklace

#

also best to keep in mind the skill powerspikes at 4/7/10

ancient kestrel
rich dock
raven kelp
rich dock
raven kelp
#

Since you already have them at lvl 3, just bring them to lvl 4 for the powerspike

rich dock
reef seal
#

EX skills only go up to 5

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and powerspikes for those are 3/5

rich dock
#

okay sensei

#

Thank you very much

weak laurel
#

do you use chise's skill in peroro or is she just there for AA damage?

ancient kestrel
#

she’s there for AA

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don’t use her EX

raven kelp
#

chise's AOE is used often there

raven kelp
#

And for when peroro is about to get groggied

#

You save her EX skill and aim for 4 broken peroros+perorodzilla in range of her AOE.

#

here's an example of a chise comp

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キャラ名 育成度 スキルレベル/装備T 固有武器
水アズサ ☆5 lv75 5MMM/665 ☆2lv40
  ナツ ☆5 lv75 4MM7/665 ☆1lv30
  チセ ☆5 lv75 5MMM/655 ☆2lv30
 アリス ☆5 lv75 5MMM/665 ☆3lv50 (助っ人)
  アコ ☆5 lv75 5M5M/665 ☆2lv40
 コタマ ☆3 lv75 541M/665 -

助っ人完全体アリスに感謝

▶ Play video
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chise can dish out a large chunk of damage even without being buffed by ako

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tho what you are seeing is a UE 2 star chise with 5xMx

reef seal
#

why are you bringing an AOE unit for aa

#

i mean sure but why

lethal abyss
#

Skill issue

olive hatch
#

Chise is good

lethal abyss
#

Dont underestimate the chise damage shiroko

median crypt
#

I thought none use her in peroro

latent gull
#

wha-

reef seal
#

why would you not use a blue AOE unit

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for a raid that specifically needs blue AOE

pseudo ore
#

if you have confidence on your units to finish off the Perorodzilla's minions fast, good for you. 👀 👌

stiff delta
#

I will have a high-grade Haruna if lucky enough in next days

ancient kestrel
#

What’s Haruna’s skill priority?

pseudo ore
#

Sub = Increases ATK by X% when standing still.
Normal ~ Deals X% of ATK as DMG to 1 enemy every 30 sec.

ancient kestrel
#

I had a feeling, just wanted to double check

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Time to build

stiff delta
#

Ex will decrease 1 cost

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Become 3 cost skill

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And more DMG

pale ferry
#

can i clear peroro extreme with this or should i worry about getting a third team setup? smolaris

bold tiger
#

Change chinatsu for hanae

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And izuna for asuna

pale ferry
#

what advantage does asuna hold over izuna?

bold tiger
#

Izuna mood D

pale ferry
#

i see, thank you. I will switch her out

bold tiger
#

Asuna mood B

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Also good for rotation

#

And you should change chise for haruna too

pale ferry
#

I'll put Izuna in a potential third team together with cherino and some other yellows

bold tiger
#

Core first team is Natsu Haruna S.azusa B.karin/arisu

pale ferry
#

i think those are best in slot

bold tiger
#

But you can test anyways

pale ferry
#

i currently go with an inspirational team based on this, but with the worry if i need cleanse or not

#

i think about who to borrow as well, but yeah, testing is the way to go

#

have my gratitude for all the team building suggestions

bold tiger
pale ferry
#

got it setup like this now

bold tiger
pale ferry
winged pulsar
#

perorozilla got renamed to perorodzilla

reef seal
#

technically it's always been named perorodzilla

pseudo ore
#

have no idea why it named like that in the first place on JP.
Peroro + zilla (ペロロ + ジラ), ok that makes sense...
Peroro + d + zilla, huh? what's with deez though?

pale ferry
#

it's just right to call it perorodzilla

#

perorozilla sounds dumb

steep sigil
#

how?

shut gazelle
#

so its not wrong

#

iirc

leaden aspen
#

Gojira

pseudo ore
pale ferry
#

There are also people who dont know it's actually Helico-pter and not Heli-copter

#

so maybe it's Go + dzilla

pseudo ore
#

game writer must be trolling us lmao anyway...

pale ferry
median crypt
latent gull
#

what raid fighter role do?

raven kelp
#

is this alright for one team ? i don't know what assistant id use , but this may be the main team i will use, i don't have s.azusa , aris or b.karin unfortunately

#

haruna is close to 4* i only need 7 more eleph

weak laurel
#

should be fine for HC, just need a tank unless tsurugi can tank

#

someone with more experience can chime in

turbid depot
#

hoshino's skill priority?

raven kelp
#

i need an assistant tho, not sure who to choose

lethal abyss
#

Aris if possible for huge damage

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B.karin also 2nd best choice

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Natsu if you want survivability

raven kelp
#

i see , thank you

#

ill experiment when it comes out

weak laurel
iron silo
#

Is this a good team for Perorodzilla??

gleaming thistle
#

Replace Asuna with a tank, and hanako with Serina/Hanae
And it should be good enough to use, for hc, at your level

If you can, borrow a stronger damage dealer from a clubmate and use them in place of your weakest damage dealer

ancient kestrel
#

Will position matter in Peroro?

gleaming thistle
#

Yes

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As it'll effect how you'll have to aim your shots

#

For chars like Aris/Haruna/Bkarin, anyway

ancient kestrel
#

gotchaaaa

iron silo
raven kelp
#

Shes your go to if you want to combine survivability and also have your team deal more damage at the same time.

charred belfry
#

also peroro only attacks front unit

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unless transition

#

but you should be able to tank through it

dense pendant
charred belfry
#

just position better

reef escarp
#

Is she good for perorozilla ?

latent gull
#

I say only if you don't have other blue for 2nd unit

#

I read here someone said she can be tank too for hc

reef escarp
#

Ohh i currently have this team for hc but i wanted to try extreme if i can

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But i probably gonna borrow izuna or other blue if chise can't hold the enemy

charred belfry
#

other than that not really

reef escarp
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So if max lvl i won't need her as tank ? Since i can always finish without tank in hc unless i tried extreme

raven kelp
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Replace chise with s.tsurugi or hoshino or tsubaki

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The laser hurts

reef escarp
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I heard laser is aoe not single target? Should i use koharu instead?

weak laurel
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The eye beam only targets one unit iirc

raven kelp
reef escarp
gleaming thistle
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pinning until the actual tweet gets released

molten marsh
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I mean its from official youtube

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But well shiroko

faint glen
turbid depot
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banner prediction?

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can we get ako's banner on next binnah?

molten marsh
bold tiger
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Binah again

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i hope the Real not bugged binah

gleaming thistle
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There’s no need to hope, this one won’t be bugged

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The previous one was bugged because that was the first ever urban binah extreme pre-insane across both jp and global

bold tiger
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beta tester doesnt exist?

gleaming thistle
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And they forgot to adjust the values from back when extreme was planned but not implemented

bold tiger
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Anyways...

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with that in mind

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peroro kaiten binah = Maki 150 elephs

gleaming thistle
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I’m expecting someone in the club to ue50 her by binah

lethal abyss
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Outdoors Binah again

gleaming thistle
lethal abyss
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This time with S Mood Maki and Ako

lethal abyss