🆚pvp-tactical-challenge

[serene silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/932917437131788310.webp?size=64

[whole escarp]

Did you win??

[solemn meteor]

Haruka stronger than shunny

[serene silo]

i did

didnt record sadly

[solemn meteor]

Yesterday I did clutched

[serene silo]

haruka ex kills her, shun kills haruka

[solemn meteor]

Against Exul

And got rank 1 xD

[serene silo]

exul is annoying lucky

[solemn meteor]

You didn't know khalis

[serene silo]

i can beat him if he keeps getting shina start

[solemn meteor]

I spent more than 15 matches with him once

Just to get rank 1

[serene silo]

how 🤔

[solemn meteor]

And Exul never have his SHina against me

I didn't record it

Idk if the history still save it

[waxen parcel]

Mid July for indoor field

[whole escarp]

Thanks!

[solemn meteor]

@serene silo here

And yes, people continuously interrupted me

You will never imagine how frustrated am I

[serene silo]

i can relate

shina roulettes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/797782888010874891.webp?size=64

[waxen parcel]

Well well well

4 tanks is real

[blazing pawn]

I decided to claim my defense coins since the bracket change

😂

[light condor]

can we stop doing this

[raw crypt]

i want it to keep happening to me

thanks

[light condor]

he does it two days in a row. He wastes all his 5 attacks on me

he has a personal vendetta

[stuck flint]

free coins tho

[light condor]

i just want to chill and not worry. My defense is not secure

[stuck flint]

4 wins in a row is not secure?

[worldly breach]

this guy's junko is cracked gg

[jovial talon]

that's just from 1 guy with a skill issue

biased log

[waxen parcel]

Yeah junko can be abused by her immortality

So can act as tank for a decent duration

[jovial talon]

just 1 shot her easy

[waxen parcel]

[jovial talon]

cant trigger if you're dead

[waxen parcel]

Not to mention there is haruka

[worldly breach]

that haruka too

[waxen parcel]

Wait till indoor + o.nodoka

[marble gulch]

Junko pvp best pvp

[tired heron]

[serene silo]

you know the most annoying part is everyone uses shina and they only won bcos of luck

shinosuke stopped attacking me, and now all these shina invaders take rank 1,2 etc

[raw crypt]

you can always do 3-4 tanks

to avoid shina losses

[serene silo]

tried

[solemn meteor]

I am using 3 tanks atm

[serene silo]

and they also mostly get hoshi ex to push my tanks

[solemn meteor]

Still went down anyways

[raw crypt]

or you know

join the Mari Cult

[serene silo]

my haruka either gets pushed behind, or gets aa to death and hoshi/tsubo getting hit by right nukers

dont have mari

[raw crypt]

you can fix that

go on

roll

[solemn meteor]

Mari EX1 3 stars

[serene silo]

account bricked

no trinity mats

[raw crypt]

important one is sub

followed by ex

[solemn meteor]

Nothing built

Sub 4 is everything

Random build for the peroro team 2

[serene silo]

[untold prawn]

Who's Mari?

[solemn meteor]

Exul is lucky today

He won the SHina roulette for the 1st time against me

[serene silo]

im struggling against them

[solemn meteor]

Use SHina and hope for a win

[serene silo]

like i mentioned, they are too lucky

[solemn meteor]

Or if you can, use 4 tanks like Laventina

[serene silo]

[solemn meteor]

Best way to counter the ishbosheth

[serene silo]

i have 4 tanks, but sometimes still lose to those comps

[solemn meteor]

How 🤨

[serene silo]

[solemn meteor]

You don't use bneru?

[serene silo]

i dont have bneru

[solemn meteor]

So F

Eimi if not heavily invested cannot survive the two red dealer

[serene silo]

i dont have eimi either

its already a bricked account

[solemn meteor]

What

So

Who is your 4th tank

[serene silo]

stsurugi lol

shes decent at times

but carries huge risk than bneru as 4th tank

[solemn meteor]

Yours die instantly to my iori

She not tsubo man

[serene silo]

bneru still dies to iori anyways

[solemn meteor]

Mine still miss her anyways

76 more eleph to kill tsubos

[serene silo]

with ue40 iori, iori just melts bneru

my investment plan is a failure

only if i go for bneru and shina

[raw crypt]

hmm

not sure about you guys but

[solemn meteor]

I went for SHina by chance xD

[raw crypt]

theres a certain comp that i find really hard to deal with

[serene silo]

but personally, i would rather get siori than everyone

[light condor]

it's impossible, i cant construct a team formation that doesn't let my tsubaki eat the first S.mash EX

[raw crypt]

eat it and live

best solution

[serene silo]

and i skipped, once again

[solemn meteor]

Even Laventina's one get killed by my two red dealers

It is not really worth

[serene silo]

still easily counterable with iori/shun

[raw crypt]

no

[light condor]

at least nobody is building gigachad S.Izumi

[raw crypt]

my best bet was

shina

and iori

leaving it to roulette

worst feeling

[solemn meteor]

Iori pos 2 is more than enough

[raw crypt]

llol no

thats like the worst iori pos for this

[serene silo]

i dunno but i found siori worth and underrated

[solemn meteor]

Hmm

I usually do that for 3-4 tanks strats

[light condor]

i would go Shun, Haruka, Tsubaki, Iori
Win condition is either Iori or S.Mash. Which means 1/3 win condition

[solemn meteor]

And it works xD

[raw crypt]

that tsubaki is gonna get smashed and haruka shredded to bits

by all the red AAs

[solemn meteor]

Tsubo in front really

You sure

[raw crypt]

well for me tsubo in front is my best bet

[light condor]

triple tank bot, which means centroid is near haruka

[raw crypt]

nah

shun pulls it upwards

[solemn meteor]

I just throw hoshi at front

[raw crypt]

hoshi gets shredded by karin

and the red AAs too

[solemn meteor]

As karin can still deal good damage to tsubo

[raw crypt]

see

this is why its annoying to deal with

[solemn meteor]

But she resists smash

[raw crypt]

tsubo? smash
haruka? triple red AA
hoshi? karin + triple red AA

[light condor]

if that is the case then using Haruka is suicide, switch her with hoshi. and then switch tank positions

[raw crypt]

then you look at my haruka line above

[solemn meteor]

14k damage for 4 cost, no one wants that

[raw crypt]

shes gonna die quickly

kraylore and i were pretty bored in our bracket

[light condor]

My win rate dropped since using haruka. maybe she is a meme prior to EW40

[raw crypt]

so we end up giving each other fights even if not needed

so i did try a lot of pos

[solemn meteor]

Seems like our old Asia 1 men are all bored with their bracket

[raw crypt]

ironically, my best bet to win is to get smashed opening

[solemn meteor]

While I am not

[serene silo]

haruka is a worth investment though

[raw crypt]

because tsubo can actually take the red AAs

live smash

[serene silo]

but ue40 has huge boost

[raw crypt]

and get back up

[serene silo]

i could use 3 tank comp to fite over kraylore

[raw crypt]

yea a bneru would work great

against kraylore

[solemn meteor]

Karin + Iori

[serene silo]

but whether hoshino or bneru is more dangerous depends on the situation

[solemn meteor]

And it still works

[serene silo]

except karin is likely to miss on bneru

[raw crypt]

karin is there for the stats

funnily

notice how my tsubo barely lives the smash

[light condor]

The power of Mari?

the power of maxHP increase

the question is whether or not you can end the fight in 2 skill rotations

[serene silo]

with one aa from shun, your tsubo would've been dead

[light condor]

i am slowly but surely losing my foothold, can not contest my rank and nobody is scared of me anymore. They're catching up

[raw crypt]

i have roughly 86k hp on my tsubo

more once i UE40

but this hp should be enough once indoors arrive

problem indoors is iori

anyway

and basing on my hyper iori in jp

should also live

[lofty leaf]

Been on the losing end lately lol

Missing one character so of course that means I lose most of the time

[light condor]

on my way to securing that hoshino/neru one-shot

[raw crypt]

ok that was funny

i was just trying to scout

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/985270866621394954/20220612_045054-midokuni.mp4

but that was a funny match

[dull fable]

Mari :

[uncut sparrow]

loading took so long

wait, summer iori flexing her butt to us?

[stuck flint]

What the heck

[raw crypt]

[light condor]

i always wake up getting my >4x defense wins but now i log in and only see a single win. This is the daily anxiety attack for me

getting nightmares waking up and realizing i am not in top10 but not even in top100 anymore. A midnight raid against my very being

[serene silo]

i need moar def wins

[raw crypt]

same

[tame cargo]

me daily anxiety for NOT GETTING A SINGLE WIN and it happened today all 5 tries are all LOSE fking SHUN she should be fking banned

[uncut sparrow]

no

[solemn meteor]

I can give some for you

If not for Laventina

[solemn meteor]

Me lose > 25 times today

Pyrollgone

[tame cargo]

sadge

shun ban!!

[light condor]

shun enables burst wins and is dependent on skill order.
You can construct your team in a way that factors that in as a counter. Win conditions for proccing Shun's Basic is SMash, Iori or SHina start, right? Your first try is gauging the enemy's defense team, then play around it by student choice or positioning

[tame cargo]

no matter the counter i DO she's such a biitch to fight with all 5 people who run shun she always goes down to fk me over i just relying on rng now

[light condor]

this sounds super depressive and exhausting

if i didnt have Shun, i would probably consider going triple tank with a DPS/Junko

If Haruka or B.Neru are placed in the likely spots of Shun, they may be able to take her out.
Most likely Iori will be able to hit her from behind her tank

[tame cargo]

yeah just 1 more month of raging and S nodoka will come and rekt them

[raw crypt]

core knowledge are and is workable
but i plan on adding more
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P7ZsJoMn2YKT-HPZPGMBT262fUD9WN99-2Doasl_Xuo/edit?usp=sharing

[vagrant ember]

IM FCKING HATE PVP

CLOSE WINS AND THIS SHIEET

I really want to throw my phone up

[raw crypt]

Funny Fights again

[light condor]

lost all my five battles lol

lost to shunless team, guess that's how the tank meta dies

[red tulip]

rn i pretty much feel like im the only normal leveled player in the top 1k of my bracket, im just chilling waiting for the next lv75 to kill me and drop me to the next tax bracket

[lofty leaf]

Can't run tanks because overtuned trash like Iori exists

[scarlet zephyr]

How tf do you keep on getting away with this 🤣 🤣 🤣

[serene silo]

his tsubo cheated death

[dull fable]

^ This's second attempt, but I change wrong unit (Remove Karin instead of SMash...)

[dull fable]

Slowed, but can't see damage

[solemn meteor]

No tsubo comp

[whole escarp]

I need an opinion about my defense formation, I don't know where's the problem but i feel is kinda weak

[solemn meteor]

Weakness might comes from your specialists

Og mashiro is kinda useless

[raw crypt]

unless you know what you're doing dont bring siori

use another tank

and as mentioned your specials could use some help

[whole escarp]

Mmm about s.iori i should replace her with hoshino is other 5 star i had or i should use haruka, i recently make her a 4 star. But in other way i'm waiting for Chinatsu (Hot spring version)

Also about my specials, besides mashiro i had karin (4 star) and saya

[raw crypt]

yea hoshino should work

haruka only if you have her built

but also depends on the dominant teams in your bracket

like if everyone uses karin

dont use hoshino

[serene silo]

in reality, most people still use hoshino

[lofty leaf]

Is PvP basically whoever Shun gets the best ability off first?

[boreal current]

yesn't

[uncut sparrow]

50% win

my shun actived but shina hit her faster

[raw crypt]

if it was, i wouldnt be consistently in top 3

[lofty leaf]

Money

Imagine the pain if you could actually control units

[raw crypt]

if i were made of money, i wouldn't not have shun

[light condor]

how often do you think Mari sub skill saved your ass

[raw crypt]

quite a lot

at the very least

my tsubo can live a UE30 SMash M7M7

opening

[light condor]

Maybe it's time to debate the usefulness of my SMash

[sleek elk]

wow

[light condor]

honestly, i should have lost

but then again, i need to win 2/5 in order to climb

[median parcel]

o h

[rapid seal]

my dumbass thought this was raid

it’s tactical challenge right?

[stoic oxide]

yup

total assault is #🏅wraid-allied-operation kek

[rapid seal]

y e a h

[rocky grove]

this dude had an all-tank team bruh

[light condor]

all-tank is old and busted
but i actually cant kill a Tsubaki + Eimi + BNeru triple tank setup.

[rocky grove]

i destroy it like a beast

[uncut sparrow]

cute tank

[lofty leaf]

You mean overtuned trash Iori did it

Smash right off the bat. Fk this game lmao

[uncut sparrow]

smash where

[lofty leaf]

Where do you think? :^)

[uncut sparrow]

[vast trout]

At the beginning all my strikers died and Tsubaki was killed by S. Mashiro, only Hoshino remained and was able to survive and bring victory to the end with Hibiki as damage dealer

[light condor]

I always say, hibiki + shina is totally overkill against a non-red tank enemy team

[uncut sparrow]

serina work hard

[cobalt shard]

his shun+tsubaki meta didnt work at all

[real sandal]

more winning chance yes for me

unless tsubaki (taunt) hubiki/iori/s.hina(AOE) got her canceled/killed in action

in the top 100 to 1 most people are using karin/smash.

the first one to correctly target the correct target wins aka kill tanks

the smoothest is s.hina skilled first, then karin melted/soften hoshinno after that smash 1hit ko or melted/soften tsubo to the point of 1 skill hit KO

[solemn meteor]

That team is nowhere meta bro

If he did use 2 tanks it would be better since 2 healers

[real sandal]

points at lvl 47 soo his starting ahaha

its normal on that level.

but the meta is
tsubo/hoshino/iori or swimsuit hina/shun/karin/swimsuit mashiro.

[light condor]

Hanae was his downfall. He should have used Mari instead. Or even Chinatsu

[cobalt shard]

i met several players around levels 40-49 who use shun+tsubaki+nonomi and i couldn't win against them

[untold prawn]

Too many ppl use smash so single tank defenses have fallen out of meta

[light condor]

9x lose combo

and 6x defense win combo

[vast trout]

Lucky today

[light condor]

current cancer: Undying Eimi

[real sandal]

sees opponent shun got rekt also LOOL soo much healing ahaha

[serene silo]

probably haruka ex start

and shun only one hit and rest miss on tsubo

[lofty leaf]

If PvP didn't give out really useful things I wouldn't play it. Lol

[light condor]

That's my opinion on raid

[stoic oxide]

20 pyroxene for 30 days = 600 pyroxene
70 coins for same days = 2100 coins

used coins for AP recharge items but that's up to ya.

[hollow canopy]

iori carried me D:

[stuck flint]

Nice gems bro

[hollow canopy]

thx?

[cosmic zealot]

Iori is love, iori is live

[uncut sparrow]

badmood doesn't stop her

[rocky grove]

Who are you saving for? That’s a lot of pyro lol

That’s like 3 pities

[scarlet zephyr]

It's my first time getting this many def wins in a row

[hollow canopy]

wakamo....bunny platoon( i skipped so many meta units as f2p :L)

maybe ako

[lofty leaf]

Iori is overtuned trash

Whenever I see 1 -> 0 in my PvP tickets all I say to myself is "Thank fking God"

[stuck flint]

Is that good for my current level?

[rapid seal]

that’s pretty good

[stuck flint]

Thanks

[hollow canopy]

moments before reward, LGxCandy kicked me off..

my rank reward im so mad >:C

[fallow marsh]

is there a way to beat shun without having shun yourself

like I am trying to climb to top 10 but at this rank everyone just have a shun/aru which is almost a guaranteed loss for me

[uncut sparrow]

s.hina

shun actually fragile, with certain position hibiki could kill her

[fallow marsh]

alright I have none of those

I am pretty new so I havent pulled most units

[jovial talon]

damn that's a comfy bracket

[uncut sparrow]

ikr

[fallow marsh]

yeah somehow no one knows how to pvp in this bracket lol

[uncut sparrow]

none know
put hibiki and serina as support

probably new player after banner smashiro

[light condor]

Man, I would come in with Karin and Mari and slaughter everyone away

[fallow marsh]

I actually do use karin and mari for everything

because I dont have hibiki

[light condor]

if your hoshino and enemy hoshino EX procs at the same time, did yours ever stunned enemy hoshino before?

mine never did, never

[stoic oxide]

RNG works in mysterious way on PVP...

[scarlet zephyr]

I want to join this bracket

[valid kernel]

<@&897693925127630909> phishing bot above^

thank

[stoic oxide]

@pale perch S. Mashiro or Haruna

on how to counter Tsubaki in PVP

[stuck flint]

Iori

[pale perch]

@stoic oxide not have them both yet 😫

[valid kernel]

s.mash

[regal hornet]

use s.azusa

[valid kernel]

if you want to lose^

[stoic oxide]

something to encounter Mystic target

well....

[valid kernel]

s.mash

the main problem needed to consider is accuracy

[pale perch]

@stoic oxide aight i'll check them later

[valid kernel]

iori cannot miss when she hits UE40 with leveled skills so she becomes a reliable answer too

[light condor]

There is noone better than smash or izuna when it comes to tsubaki. Iori is too much rng and i'd rather she hits hoshino and then moves to killing the entire backline (especially when enemy hoshino is on p1)

[uncut sparrow]

asuna?

[light condor]

Asuna dies too fast and doesnt burst

[solemn meteor]

Wouldn't Izuna get shunned

[light condor]

I position her behind high ATK burst tanks

[solemn meteor]

And her accuracy sucks too

If you dare say Iori cannot hit

[raw crypt]

someone wants to reduce competition huh

[uncut sparrow]

izuna might be deleted by shina

same case tho

[solemn meteor]

Her evasion is more than 1k

And SHina's accuracy is even lower than Izuna

[uncut sparrow]

can she survive from smashiro judgement shot?

[solemn meteor]

Heavily invested + Mari/Ayane max sub/Mari's shield on, maybe

1 shot of a 5 stars ex5 smash is more than 33k on Haruka for reference

Smash crits, never

However

Izuna last gear is a watch

[uncut sparrow]

I doubt it when smashiro shot in beginning

[solemn meteor]

No crit res, crit dmg res

Chance of surviving a barrage of justice is low

[raw crypt]

izuna is gonna die in 5 hits of shina's ex

[solemn meteor]

If it hits

[raw crypt]

shina ex has 20 hits

[uncut sparrow]

oh comeon

have many times you saw it

[raw crypt]

shina has a 42% chance to hit against izuna

without smash

[uncut sparrow]

I doubt she'll survived

[raw crypt]

5 hits out of 20 hits

with 42% chance

[solemn meteor]

99 times 117%

115

Not much higher

[light condor]

wish i had 7* tsubaki

[void current]

My miku and s.tsurugi maxed tho!?!?

Unfair rng

Infact everything maxed except tsubaki

[lofty leaf]

lol Discrod

[uncut sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-arona-peroro-gif-24665586

[stoic oxide]

interesting... I am also in that discord server as well but not active.

[stuck flint]

Just won 5 in a row. Think nonomi insta attacked 3/5 attacks

Thank you based nonomi

[light condor]

i am out of top10 for today. 5losses

[stuck flint]

sadness

[lofty leaf]

Haruka well on her way to wiping out their team but Tsubaki somehow miraculously taunts. Every fking time

[red tulip]

its a classic when the game can be decided by 1 ult but it ends up being the last one in the deck

[stoic panther]

As I browse, I realize I know just about nothing about how to properly PvP. I just learned that only tanks somehow wins

[stuck flint]

It's because tanks can be hard to remove and supports hit hard

[light condor]

Only overtuned units can prevail in a bruiser tank meta

[fallow marsh]

ayo are you the same guy in my bracket at rank 33

[solemn meteor]

If your tanks have huge investments, they can cover each other, good specialists, yes

As not many burst character can kill them in an instant

[stoic panther]

No, I’m at a bit more than 1,000th

[vast trout]

Nice

[scarlet zephyr]

Ohhh ayeee

We're in the same bracket

[cobalt shard]

Midori

[uncut sparrow]

bruh

powerful

[marble gulch]

Stronk

[lofty leaf]

PvP is the only thing I genuinely hate about this game

But you have to play it or you'll fall behind in progress

[uncut sparrow]

[tired heron]

:0

[serene silo]

[cobalt shard]

p2p is kinda enjoyable when you win while being f2p

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[stuck flint]

Won 1 out of 10 attacks today

Worst luck imaginable

[stoic oxide]

enemy team's ex skills activates early for some reason....

maybe I am just schizo

[stuck flint]

Shun makes that happen

Hopefully that's what it was

[blissful ice]

in pvp when 2 iori users meet, the first iori to use ex skill win

[wary karma]

Iori sweeps are the only reason I enjoy pvp. I fear the Iori mirrors with the indoors map

[agile cairn]

That's why you prepare your UE40 Haruka

Stop Iori from sweeping

[wary karma]

Already working on it. Decided that delaying my Ako growth will be worth it since I can borrow from someone sweatier than me in my club :^)

[blissful ice]

I just pray that the AI would use my Iori ex first

Uses serina ex right off the start

[uncut sparrow]

I prefer shun or karin

[misty laurel]

[cobalt shard]

Midori strikes again

[agile cairn]

Those low level brackets look so fun

Completely chaos

[tired heron]

3/6 wins

[distant gyro]

Standing here, I realize

[light condor]

woah nice, my daily AP- oh darn my pvp rank...

[tired heron]

[soft veldt]

just unlocked pvp, what should my teams be?

[wary karma]

Tsubaki is a mainstay. People build specifically to get around her.
Nonomi roulette can carry you fairly high into bracket by getting lucky with her EX usage.
Yuuka is a good second tank to use
Once you get Unique Equipment then Haruka can be a monster when maxed out
Can never go wrong with Serina

[soft veldt]

what should my defense formation be I guess to start

[wary karma]

Personally with your students I’d go with Nonomi, Tsubaki, Yuuka, Serika/Momoi. With Serina and someone else with a low cost ex for support.
You’re going to feel the pain of not having someone that can reliably tackle enemy Tsubaki though

[soft veldt]

I'll have 30 pulls when next banner comes maybe then something comes c:

[wary karma]

Haruna, Iori, and Shun are all strong pvp units that will help you overall. The first two can tackle Tsubaki as well

[soft veldt]

sorry I forgot to say thanks alot for the help

[uncut sparrow]

good luck men
just don't be mad

[light condor]

too late, i am mad

[serene silo]

[lyric bear]

PvP giving me heart attack. Barely won at 2:57. Clutched win against enemy Tsubaki with my Karin

Last one standing was S.Hina

welp and totally lost next fight

[uncut sparrow]

well
pretty normal

bring haruka against me always a mistake

[stuck flint]

She's there for people running iori

But your team kind of based not too often I see not meta beating mostly meta

[light condor]

How do you win against hoshino slot1? Placing iori in slot1-2 will kill iori, but placing iori in slot3-4 will make her focus the wrong tank

[mystic scaffold]

Idk but to me as long as Iori is fighting tsub and hoshi, Iori usually still reign.

Mostly every time I lose to someone who has an Iori

Even having tsub at 7* Iori still slaps tsub with one ex

Hmm base on what I see on my battle usually they put Iori at 4

When attacking

[void current]

Send coin

[red tulip]

ill find u and donate 15 coins to the cause

[mystic scaffold]

I have 700 pvp coin

[idle laurel]

Bruh

[uncut sparrow]

[solemn meteor]

Need some?

[mystic scaffold]

Lol nice

[raw crypt]

why do you not use your coins

[light condor]

he should worry about his eligma instead

[stuck flint]

@raw crypt can 4 stars s.iori out attack UE30 s.hina

For pvp purposes

Got tired of shuns. So I'll invest eligmas on s.iori earlier than I planned.

[raw crypt]

quite easily

[stuck flint]

Oh? Thank god

[raw crypt]

remember to boost her passive

[stuck flint]

I checked in schaleDB and 4 stars s.iori barely below UE30 s.hina at passive7

[raw crypt]

for reference UE40 shina is 5.9k
UE30 siori is 6.2k

did you add in bond

[stuck flint]

Not yet

[raw crypt]

but yea you wanna increase passive

but

id say you want to ue30 siori anyway

[stuck flint]

Hmm ic. Maybe I'll change my hiero plans from 3m7m s.iori to 3MMM s.iori to also accomodate pvp

[raw crypt]

what use is a sponge

if she cant absorb a lot

[stuck flint]

Yeah I was using planning to invest in her for kaiten, JE, and hiero

Pvp was just an extra so I just eligmad her earlier than planned

[stuck flint]

True

I'll get my 665 gears s.iori 2 days later

Then fully accomodate her to pvp

Not enough eligma yet for UE30 tho

So I'll keep her 4 stars until I get enough from banner pulling

Still 555 gears atm

[void current]

[void current]

Now its 6

[stuck flint]

Nice investment I sure hope you invested smartly and didnt gimp your other gehenna units from having decent skill levels for extreme raids.

[void current]

We in same server btw

For raids

I see u

In ranking

[stuck flint]

Oh aight yeah you can see my shunless suffering

And why Im building s.iori earlier than planned for pvp

[void current]

Im also shunless

I use her for pvp

[void current]

Thats why i notice u

My igm name isnt barrot btw

@stuck flint i will eat ur donut 1 day

[stuck flint]

Wait you saw in pvp not in raid rankings right?

My pvp team is uninvested compared to raid teams

[solemn meteor]

No where to use

Not mentioned i use 95 coins per day

[raw crypt]

...

i use 200 a day

[solemn meteor]

For what tho

Rat's eleph?

[raw crypt]

?

im very sure we had this convo before

did you forget about shop refresh

[solemn meteor]

I never know that

Looks like i have reached a new knowledge

[jovial talon]

the bricking continues

[light condor]

210pvp coins daily

[raw crypt]

200 for me
95 + 10 + 95

3 more days

[jovial talon]

ue40

i still have approximately 2 more months until ue50

[raw crypt]

nah

thats 5*

[jovial talon]

nani

[serene silo]

ssg pvp mains

[jovial talon]

i thought you were buying full refresh since the start

[raw crypt]

lol no

[stuck flint]

Mido doesnt need so when they have AP weekly pack

Ssg dolphin sama

[warm spindle]

Are you ok?

[light condor]

Phew

And i did this while all non-aggression pacts had been broken

[untold prawn]

Technically wouldn't that make it easier to climb?

Cause normally they'd all focus on u and ladder u oblivion

Since the recent shuffle its been a lot easier to collect 1st rewards but now that I got it. I realize how little difference it is compared to like t100. The coins definitely is a lot more but pyro I'm getting 20 more?

[light condor]

the pacts were there to make us all climb using non-pacters.
And top1 at any time would make his defense team known for every pacter.
We potentially all got rank1 for our daily 125coins in a straightforward and friendly way.
The korean players had something similar where they got rank1 and then put in a cheap unit after getting their max rewards

dunno if they still do that

[untold prawn]

How many of u guys were in on that?

[light condor]

the clubs were connected in that with one club mate keeping track. EU and US had their own pacts. my spreadsheet had around 20 names that belonged to the pact

but it all fell apart once the brackets were split up

now i need to actually fight to stay top10 which is a real hassle

[untold prawn]

Prior to the shuffle I couldn't even step foot in t50 for long. Now I just sit at t2 till it's time to claim

[light condor]

i dont even think i am in the same bracket with all my club mates

i dunno how the brackets are made but my bracket is surprisingly very competitive

like being top10 i get attacked +3times by the same person, not giving up until his skill rotation lines up

[untold prawn]

Idk if mine is competitive or not cause I rushed 1st on day 1 and stayed there ever since

Same ppl hit me but I don't drop far

[light condor]

since the bracket reshuffle, i can count the number of times i got top1 on my two hands

[warm spindle]

I have never heard anything about that lol

[untold prawn]

[light condor]

i dropped as far down as top50

[light condor]

what's your ingame name?

or better yet, the club's name

[warm spindle]

I am in North America server

[light condor]

oh, i dont know about the pacts made from our US sister-club

either way, it's all broken down. All the negotations and communication efforts. Wasted. Blown away

[untold prawn]

So the shuffle I guess is completely random

Is that even possible?

[light condor]

dunno, we dont have insight. People say it's about total pvp coins obtained. Some others say it's about your last pvp rank prior to reset. some others say it's login time

i dont have connections to our JP sisterclub. I am sure these people know more

due to the wording of the patch notes (and reason why we got a premature season recount)

[untold prawn]

I don't think my highest last season was that bad... login time seems like the more likely factor

[serene silo]

lol i know those 3

they are in community server

[light condor]

i guess many are in the community server

[valid kernel]

oh yeah, zhadar and arch

[cobalt shard]

The best I could get so far. f2p btw

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971823660992176149/990720639319023657/shunsmug2.gif

[tired heron]

👍

[dull fable]

Comfy for today

Def lose and fall to 6
Then back to 1

[solemn meteor]

I started to miss the good old agressiveness

Too much comfy now

My UE40 Iori melts everyone

[serene silo]

preparing for indoors madness i see

i should ue50 iori if i can

[untold prawn]

[void current]

Max miku vs max fuuka

[light condor]

who won? I need to know, i need answers

[lyric bear]

Does anyone know if making Tsubaki UE40 really make her worse for PvP? I think it was Valiant streamer who said it.

[solemn meteor]

How

More bits of damage

[lyric bear]

I heard him say it twice now. Trying to find the video. But I don't really understand why UE40 would be bad for PvP.

[stuck flint]

UE40 tsubaki isnt necessary. Her attack speed increases so her shooting duration shortens. But at the same time attack speed buff also affects reload speed and makes it shorter/faster.

[lyric bear]

Yeah, I think that was his explanation

So it is not recommended on Pvp

but what about raid?

[stuck flint]

Not recommended as well.

Just give her Ue30 and shes great enough. Any more than that and its minmaxing hp stats for her

[lyric bear]

Whew, I shouldn't have farmed for more Tsubaki then

Thank you!

[stuck flint]

The tanks you want to UE40 are haruka and hoshino

[stuck flint]

Np

[raw crypt]

no, should be at worst the same
at best better

we dont know exactly how in-game data treats frame decimals

so can only give that answer for now

unless someone wants to count frames

[void current]

Me

I swapped out natsu with maxed s.tsurugi which carried and maxed koharu with maxed cherino

I changed serina to maxed hibiki

My favourite word: maxed

[soft veldt]

what should my offense team be?

[lofty leaf]

Their Karin doing her ult two times in a row. Fk this game.

[tall walrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630553822036623370/974324751268986920/irh_blue220512.gif

[stuck flint]

You can do nonomi/junko, shun, tsubaki+yuuka for strikers. Haruka would be better than yuuka but your haruka is still 1 star so its out of the equation

[soft veldt]

tyty

[cobalt shard]

why Midori is so good?

[uncut sparrow]

or your enemy was just bad

[jovial talon]

Solo yellow tank on A1

Vs D1 iori

he had it coming

[solemn meteor]

Because none of them have SHina

Midori has tons of time to work

[light condor]

why is SHina's skill always slotted in last?

[warm spindle]

It is always slotted first but in the opponent side hahahaha

[uncut sparrow]

[waxen parcel]

Depends on offensive or defensive party 1st

[tall walrus]

last for us. first for opponents 😭

[bronze gazelle]

pandemonium society moment

[light condor]

seriously, it's not a joke. She doesnt go first, impossible. Even if she is slotted first, she doesnt go first

[raw crypt]

skill issues

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/991874119421399091/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/991874174408736849/unknown.png

[uncut sparrow]

you won?

oh she didn't had enough damage to kill you

[raw crypt]

enemy died before finishing

[solemn meteor]

That SHina is worse than yours

Looks like being only 4 stars just like me

[raw crypt]

thats ue30

vs ue3*

[uncut sparrow]

fair enough

[solemn meteor]

A rich man once said

[hidden hemlock]

Nobody died in my team
The skills EX order went
1-2-back to 1
Shouldnt it be 1-2-3?

[stuck glen]

If its currently cant used ex, it will skip to next slot

I.e. got taunted

[solemn meteor]

Your team got tsubakied

And no specialists ex card

[hidden hemlock]

Makes sense, ty

[light condor]

what the hell happened while i slept

[stuck flint]

good defense

g i b

[jovial talon]

inb4 it's 8/20 defenses

[stuck flint]

what?

[jovial talon]

you get 3 coins per defense win

24 coins there means he won 8 matches

but who's to say he didn't lose 12 other matches
_ _

your daily dose of joke explanation brought to you by yours truly

[stuck flint]

oh

i didn't know there's a max for defense thang

[waxen parcel]

Max is 10 defense per day

Which is 30 coins

Back before 10 defense is 5 defense

[stuck flint]

oh i see

[light condor]

nah, my defense literally cant be defeated
in balance, i cant win any attacks either.
this is the peak pvp experience

[stuck flint]

lmao

[frozen drift]

Its the opposite for me today
Defense lose 4 time
Attack win 4 time lol

[tall walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992490157984972880/RPReplay_Final1656698264.mov
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992490182236438558/RPReplay_Final1656698089.mov

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992490574236094484/RPReplay_Final1656698023.mov
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992490575964147722/RPReplay_Final1656697949.mov

[solemn meteor]

Just attack more than 5 times

RNG never listen to anyone

[untold prawn]

He speaks the truth

[stuck flint]

Why do enemy shuns just completely ignore my tanks and shoot my back lines?

[marble gulch]

Her EX makes her AI target the enemy with the highest ATK

[stuck flint]

Ugg thanks

[stuck glen]

It is? I thought its the farthest

I thought thats just cheri normal

[uncut sparrow]

no
it's highest attack

[serene silo]

shooting animation

[fallow marsh]

finally

Yuzu is carrying me by oneshotting iori every time

[uncut sparrow]

[stuck flint]

wait what

[light condor]

bless the children bracket

[stuck flint]

bruh let me in there

[stuck flint]

Do people.even play pvp?

I do some battles and I think I'm 4k or something

Or even higher I don't remeber

Gold rank

And I'm lvl 30

Didn't lose a single battle, so there are so few people on global?

[raw crypt]

there are a lot of brackets

so not all people will be in the same pool

otherwise you wouldnt even get past 10k

[light condor]

if your enemy all have student names, then you are still fighting with bots

[stuck flint]

Ahh I see

So there are groups of players

I was afraid I'm playing a dead game lol

Yes I'm 4k.and fighting bots

That's nice, easy resources

But I'm glad the game isn't dead

[warm spindle]

A draw but i still lose hahahaha

[uncut sparrow]

your hina die first

it's from helicopter animation

[light condor]

blessed today

wow, not even 10mins on the big seat, my defense win streak was broken so easily. I was treated like a lowly tutorial fight

[light condor]

THESE B*STARDS, THEY COPIED MY IMMORTAL DEFENSE TEAM

[tired heron]

[cobalt shard]

battle of bunnies

[dull fable]

3/3 for today
Thanks to Shun and Haruka opening

[raw crypt]

does it even matter to hide your lineup when the people who attack you already know and people who cant attack you wont need it

[tired heron]

[stuck flint]

What does next seasons meta look like besides Karin back to hibiki?

Also s.hina dies

But is it just shun, iori, tsubaki and hoshino for on ground units?

[raw crypt]

aris

bkarin

in the end

meta is determined by your bracket

since each pick will have a counterpick

[stuck flint]

Hard to think b.karin with that 7 cost is in pvp

[tired heron]

[raw crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992815776815906866/Screen_Recording_20220702-222401_Blue_Archive_1.mp4

imagine this but with better mood

and easier to aim

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/992816842789900409/Screen_Recording_20220702-222401_Blue_Archive_2.mp4

[stuck flint]

Can she take shuns ex?

Or is she insta dead

[raw crypt]

probably gonna die

[stuck flint]

And is she viable at 4* because I'm not an oil baron

[raw crypt]

probably not

but again it depends on your bracket

[orchid rampart]

How to beat shun pvp

[solemn meteor]

SHina, or simply luck with shun

Done

[serene silo]

ue50 bkarin or no deal

[serene silo]

she has low health, so no

[raw crypt]

or aris

[halcyon vector]

Is it safe to farm pyros in here?

[waxen parcel]

I mean its flat 30 above top 100

Beside

Your level is higher than them

Just push it

[random olive]

how to know if we win after use the skip button ...is it total damage count or hp left count...?

[solemn meteor]

It depends on HP left after 3 mins

[untold prawn]

What skill lvl and stars are bkarin?

[raw crypt]

ask the guy himself @fluid mantle

[untold prawn]

Oh, lol. I assumed it was your fight

[light condor]

Once you click on Fight, the battle is already over and you get the simulated battle. So in essense, "timing" your skip doesnt change the outcome.
If both teams are alive, the total HP% is used to determine the winner

[untold prawn]

OK bkarin is 5 stars, but what skill lvls? @fluid mantle

What's crazy is she gets to take her shot b4 shun even tho cost is high

[solemn meteor]

Wow

That highly invested

And cannot escape my 4 stars Hina with double Mashiro

[serene silo]

lmao that ping

[fluid mantle]

oh hello

wait

[untold prawn]

Hiya

[untold prawn]

Thanks

[fluid mantle]

but she just ded from shina

[untold prawn]

[fluid mantle]

so not really recommended to bring her outdoor

[untold prawn]

So it's OK vs no shina comps then

[fluid mantle]

yes

against iori its kinda good

but shina will delete her in 1 ex

since iori ex cant reach her its safer

but thats just a russian roulette

lol

rng battle with 7 cost

wait why stickers are so few suddenly

wait what server is this?

why am i here?

[karmic osprey]

💀

[fluid mantle]

omg this is official lmao

i thought its community server

[untold prawn]

Hmm... ya that 7 cost is steep

[fluid mantle]

yeah the point is dont use it against shina

except u r confident with your luck today

[untold prawn]

She took one 1 hit without dying tho it probably wasn't a crit

And mine is still 3 star

[light condor]

i'll stay here until the end of time

[robust owl]

terrain change when?

its this month right?

[young river]

Yes

ONodoka banner

[robust owl]

oh nice

thanks

[untold prawn]

But... u only have 2 hits left...

[pale perch]

Is this count as gacha flex too ? I feel very lucky beat this team 😆

[light condor]

yeah, I'll gift some people free wins so they dont attack me

[untold prawn]

Is that how it works?

[light condor]

well, i dont really care about 2k credits

even if i had a non-aggression pact going, the moment i hit rank1 it is voided

[warm spindle]

Is there a trick to recharge skills faster?

he used karin target removal twice and his s.hina always activate lol

[steady abyss]

The only trick I can think for that is cherino. Otherwise, just luck with skills order and when students are defeated.

[raw crypt]

shun

[untold prawn]

Iirc if ur unit dies u lose the charge cause ur skill selection changes. Or that's what it seemed to me

But ya shun and Cherino would increase the charge speed

Doesn't recovery boost stat do that as well? Or is that something else?

[steady abyss]

Recovery stat boosts healing received, it's different from cost recovery

[tacit prawn]

got top 1

[lethal cave]

When midori got 1st place to get skill

[sick birch]

bruh swear on yeezy i just got dementia

hit the same guy 3 times in a row and they got s.hina ex at the very start all 3 times

and i got destroyed

after this i dont even know

[light condor]

right now i am actively forming the top echelon of pvp. everyone switched out their SHina because i counter her

now i need to win against my own defense

[steady abyss]

I think Im the only one in my bracket using cherino lol. When her ex pops up first, it gets rid of any shina, iori or haruna that I have in front. She also usually can survive an hibiki barrage, and sometimes her cost regen gave me an advantage, like my hoshino using her ex slighly faster than enemy hoshino, stunning her and making my opponent waste 4 energy.

Also, since its common that everyone uses shun, cherino ex doesn't really come slower, just happens as soon as shun gives you her energy boost

[untold prawn]

Isn't Cherino red defense?

So... wouldn't hibiki normally one shot

[steady abyss]

Well, sometimes, but not that many. Cherino's hp is high so it requires some investment on hibiki to one shot, I dont see it very often. Also, hibiki accuracy is not high and cherino's got some eva so she misses sometimes too.

[untold prawn]

Oh ic. I think there's like one guy around that uses hibiki. There rest just use karin/smash

Tbh in the current environment she's just not as effective. But some ppl just gotta use what's available.

[steady abyss]

Cherino's mood is also high so iori can't block her ex in cover. Of course next week it will be time to bench her

[raw crypt]

5 cost to delete backline is kinda a not-worth scenario for most people

especially when shes HG and more likely to be caught up in AOE

her hp is high sure but not as high as tanks

shes still gonna die easily

you can literally have midori do the same backline killing for 3 cost and still be safe

while also offering some sustain to your tanks

you can argue faster cost generation but

thats pretty negligible, if anything i see more uses for cherino in indoors, post-iroha

since its a fight to get the first iroha

cherino's win condition is to live 45 seconds into the fight 40 + cast time of basic

[steady abyss]

Perhaps midori is better indeed, specially if she can kill iori and shina in one ex. I just got her pulling for ako and is not built, but like I said my cherino frequently evades or survives an hibiki barrage and she has been doing fine for me and easily available, since raising her is a good idea anyway.

The other aoe that is common is either Shina, that it's a matter of who's ex pops up first, Bneru that may ex somewhere else depending on position and haruka I guess, which can be trouble(usually she is trouble anyway for me since Im running karin/smashiro)

[steady abyss]

Sometimes even Shina is not able to kill cherino with an ex, like it just happened to me in a match. She ended up with the remaining life that can be seen in this picture, then wiped Shina with her ex.

In the end, last one standing was cherino lol

[raw crypt]

looks like a badly built shina

[steady abyss]

Perhaps, I couldn't check the stars since she was hidden, but Im everyday top100 in my bracket(that, since Im a day1 player everyone is lvl75) and almost everyone fights with many 5* star chars(I actually don't, my cherino, smashiro and shun are 4*)

[light condor]

There are only two types of Shinas:

• she can kill my Iori/SHina in one full EX
• she cant kill them in one EX

[stuck flint]

What kind of team do I need to bring to shut down a 3 tank team?

Shun, hoshino, tsubaki, haruka/bunny neru

[valid kernel]

4 tank works well, if its haruka then s.iori works great (or s.hina if killing shun is a priority), if it’s neru then regular iori can’t miss at UE40 and kills all 3 of them

[light condor]

You go three tank as well with a SHina at slot 1. Forfeit Shun

[steady abyss]

Once again today cherino proves my point lol. This time I chose an opponent that seemed to have a strong hibiki and a strong shina

Shina used ex first, not able to kill cherino

Cherino kills Shina with her ex

Cherino then survives hibiki barrage after that

This time I lost tho, smashiro killed my tsubaki in the beginning and sealed my fate lol

[serene silo]

you do know cherino has high evasion, right?

she has 1081 evasion, and shina only has 102 accuracy

that translates to 41.7% hit chance on cherino

[serene silo]

there are 2 misses on cherino, otherwise she would be ded by a long shot

[jovial talon]

behold

dropped from daily top 10 claim to rank 100

but now i earn more coins than rank 1

[steady abyss]

Thanks for the numbers, that's what I tried to explain that sometimes it works and she survives even if her position is risky.

[steady abyss]

Isn't coins limited to 5 times per day?

[jovial talon]

It's 10 times now

the cap was raised a while back ago

Starting of season 3 i think?

[steady abyss]

Great, guess I haven't been attacked much lately(surprisingly) definitely not as much as you. I just try to stay top100 everyday

[jovial talon]

oh no i barely get 2-3 defense wins usually

with a lot of loses

so i tried to let myself drop to 100 intentionally to see if i would get more defenses

well it clearly worked on day 1

[steady abyss]

Well its a good time to save pvp coins, not really worth it to get more AP right now

[jovial talon]

mhm

get ready

Onsen, NY, Valentine, Ui event, cherino event rerun, summer rerun, hyakki event

[stuck flint]

What the hell?

[lofty leaf]

Really, fk PvP in this game lol

[light condor]

raid malding is worse imo

[jovial talon]

it's a peace treaty

accept your donation sir

karin bar vs smash bar

[frozen drift]

Why bring Mari for pvp?
Removing S.Mash debuff?

[thick sonnet]

Extra HP sub

[raw crypt]

because why not

[round sphinx]

when's this season ending?

[jovial talon]

as of now

never

but terrain will change to indoors by the end of the month, without season change

[light condor]

N-no season change? B-but my free pyro ..

[round sphinx]

😭

[frozen drift]

5* Mari

[untold prawn]

Didn't we just shuffle not too long ago?

You want another already?

[jovial talon]

yes sir

send me to a bracket full of lvl 50s pls so i can be king

[untold prawn]

W8... I just realized what u meant. You're saying the season changes but there's no shuffle?

[jovial talon]

Season stays the same

hence no shuffle

Only the terrain changes

It's special circumstances for global

[untold prawn]

Ya my wording was bad

But I got it

Hmm... I gotta update Haruka then