#🆚pvp-tactical-challenge
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I am still looking for ways to record footage for a youtube compilation
Internal screen record on phone nowadays feels good already, no?
Oh, i am using emulator. And on my phone i can only screenshot
i use OBS
I use bandicam since it’s less storage but OBS better
you'll get it next time, or next time, or next time, or next time
Hard to gage things when they get off ever possible good move right off the bat and your units always interrupt their own skills
oh god, imagine being this dood...
btw I personally find that
S. Tsurugi performed better than Haruka
Both at 4-star, 3444
haruka prolly need higher investment to work ig
what is it with today
people are attacking me twice
i wish people would stop attacking me once i won 5x defenses
AYO WHAT
i mean, what can you do. 4Cost, 100% Acc on ricochet, it stuns. Effect is instant. Meanwhile SHina needs to shoot for 4-5seconds uninterrupted for the same effect.
Holy what the
when does this season end
End of this month
Momoi 

wait, how does this work. we traded ranks but he wanted his old rank back?
yes, that happened to me once lmao
Attack -> Win -> "Huh, my rank didn't change...????"
he probably got attacked and went below you again
deranked twice
sir
that's a different guy

this looks more like he wanted to get revenge on you for winning offense but he lost
omg you're right, different name lmao
what
what
wijen's message looks out of context if he's replying to locher

Two 0s 
Junko managed to kill both hoshino and SHina in a single ex though, which was nice
Then I lost due to bneru dodging Karin twice and shun still being alive to finish off Tsubaki
Odd how they don't use tsubaki
Average pvp match vs SHina

though, I guess I could move junko so that she doesn't stop to run behind cover after finding an initial position

not that that would have prevented anything here
Unless putting her on A2 would make her run straight to cover
That'd probably depend on the initial target tho
Unless u have an idea of the enemy's positions beforehand
But either way it's hard to fight good defense rng like a shina ex at the very start
Its not odd, its just they avoid to being known
Since tsubo is like actual standard pvp
Beside b.neru also evasion tank so
B Neru is a lot easier to counter since she lacks her own heal plus the evasion means nothing to ppl with iori. She's basically a tsubaki that doesn't get one shot by smash.
Yeah but your mind will set to tsubaki and hoshino right?
Especially they give 1st slot peek hoshino
Hmm, true I will probably just expect the tsubaki and hoshino
I don't think alot of ppl built bneru
Since she wasn't priority
I built her but most of the time she's not dodging much since majority have smash boosting accuracy
this is typically what happens when you dont calculate centroids 
fighting for my life 24/7



The pole pushing BNeru into Shun and SHina is good Civilization.
And I mean hugging distance
So, I was fighting against a guy that used S Hina and as soon as the match started she used her ex skill. I didn't even had 3 bars when she used it. how is that possible is there a character beside Cherino capable of speeding the bar recovery? Or is there something I'm missing that makes my bar slow?
Shun. Shun can give an extra cost at start of battle
oh that makes sense
shun basic at lvl 1.
then shun at lvl max basic skill
almost 4 cost at start at max lvl basic

Literally strafing
💣
this is very annoying, you almost won, but mashiro finishes you off (
Yeah shun 3.8 sp advantage is broken af. Against them, shunless are always 1-2 skills behind
what a mess
do you have a vid of the fight against me

👍

This season really seems a lot more active than the last one
I can't really say it's due to the season just starting at this point
F
how often do the pvp tickets replenish
5 tickets every reset
k so i can spam them
I have given up on meaningful PvP
no smash?
lmaoooo
Karin OP
Nope. Never pulled for her.
I blame shun still. Smash would’ve casted 3.8 sp earlier if I got one
😭
Emotional damage
just go full tank for season 2, it works like a charm
I don’t have reliable 4th tank. 
Yuuka 
tomorrow I will use Yuuka in pvp and show you 
the thing is she's not reliable
you can place eimi, sturugi, yuuka, and izuna and it could work here and there but still not reliable
at top 10 you're fighting people with max hbki and shina. yuuka won't last vs invested strong players
yuuka dies to iori in 1 hit 

you can throw random char like koharu in 4th slot and still win.
she still did nothing though lol

aight
but man, Hoshino really is so good this season huh
i think yuuka is good too. she's just not reliable at higher rankings. hoshino is really good yup

if koharu is not on the frontline, she will inevitably become selfish
whats the best way to figth tsubaki
im in a stalemate
hah won cause of timeout i think
High single target blue units like Haruna,Aris and Swimsuit mashiro works great
High single target yellows also work just not to the same degree
Examples would be Karin and Iori
hasumi is my mian single target yellow
in pvp
full team tank 
its the most reliable to me in season 2
since every goddamn time Hina just brrr me
while mine barely activates cause no Shun

👍
yuuka is downright bad
imagine resist, and takes a lot more damage from smash than haruka
apparently even iori ex can kill her
yeah, i witnessed it
a climber using yuuka and my iori just eats her in one shot 
one of them being
That shield's thicc af

oh no
bet you were wondering why pvp is automatic
No I was just like "why all of my opponent are lvl 20" 😔
"Why are all players named after students?"
Lmfao
"why are we still here?"

at least it's not the other way around where you're lvl 20, wondering why all your opponents are lvl 50s

Hes lucky to the late brackets

Imagine being lvl 20 and being in a bracket full of lvl 73
Thats me

At least our suffering end soon
Soon TM
What next terrain in next season?
Supposedly indoors, but since they're resetting the season earlier than expected, not sure
I think they actually mention on the roadmap that its gonna be indoor season 3
Well they did, but that was before the early season end change, and they haven't updated that
So I guess it is safe to assume that it should be indoors next

Iori will go brrr!
Obviously basuna core in pvp
Def down enemy tanks with aoe 
5 cost ex 🤢


I stopped using her since majority started using mostly tanks
And her ex never activates unless it's about to be interrupted anyways

I feel like iori makes a bigger impact despite her mood disadvantage
thats cause tri tank comp too common now
UE 40 iori should make them switch out from b.neru and tsubaki comp. 
When is ue unlock?
Natsu banner
That's pretty fast, I still haven't 5 star Haruka
ah, just noticed that I use different day-month format....
forget to change 31st May to May 31st 
me using bkarin, could one shot tsubaki
but it's long way to go
7cost
killed by hibiki 
hit accidentally by iori
wait for next season to use her
i need another raid to EX5 my karin 
I hate this thing !
@tired heron please stop 
Bcuz you said to stop so I did it seriously alrdy
So... ppl didn't like the changes made to outdoors I guess?
opposite
they didnt like it because they didnt change what people expected to change

Hmm, not sure what it's supposed to be like but my average rank didn't change much from last season.
My shina feels useless there tho
Pray to the luck gods
every bracket is filled before creating a new bracket
so the active people or fast peoplr all get put together
and these people are usually the tryhards
now you get brackets filled to the brim with tryhards making it hard to rank consistently
and there are cases of newbies getting caught up
it was fine in urban because the condition was to clear 6-1, not to login
the expected algorithm was what jp currently has, multiple brackets and you end up somewhere random
so its less dense in tryhards
Hmm didn't think the condition for new brackets was just to login
Seems like a lazy way to do it
thats what testing showed
the login time
based off of multiple people logging in at diff times and visiting pvp screen at diff times and playing at diff times
some people also sandbagged
to lower ranks in urban pvp
TANK
A wall
I just need a good healer and she'd be unstoppable
How many extra elephs do you have rn
Onsen stalker
last time I checked 86
no XD
Oh damn we got a literal wall then
I havent done hard stages since bunny event
dew it
😭
She actually carried me to top 100 pvp despite my sweaty bracket
On 3*
No one expect red tanks
Eimi is nice 
first victim of my trial def team
why you hiding it 
he is afraid of people finding out he is still using serina
thats a nice idea
maybe i bring ayane
and hypermax my tsubo
so she can live even noncrit nonreload smash

After first season serina screwing me over at the start, don't wanna go back to that
Bneru about to kill SHina and Shun. Gets stunned. Smash three times and two Shina ults. Sure.
I lost this is the worst timeline
Goes 4-1 today and reach new highest rank by replacing s.hina with cherino
Weirdly more fun and comfortable
I want so many victories too
Shun at opponents does not let me win 
Cheri basic actually clutch twice as it makes my striker ignore tank
I know this is not the optimal team but i cant anyway so just wanna try to have some fun
What are the odds of opponent's 1st EX is s.hina 3 times in a row...the RNG is really something for PVP
BKaren testing in PvP
wait, enemy doesnt have smash and karin. what rank are you?
asia 1
Thank you
i fought you twice and i won -w-
Immortalize S.Hifumi on pvp
Oh, TaHisHeRe already fall from rank 1? 

Yes
He is rank 6 now
Ah, okayyy
Really no one fight that little shun at rank 3?
Maybe
But that shun is much easier to fight
I took rank 1 from that shun in just 1 match :D

His(?) Junko always got EX opening
And my Hoshino always ded from that 
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tahishere is easy to fight
he just resets

finally reached rank 1 on my alt, whale bracket
👍
epic victory royal
Finally done 
Still wonder why he still survive by using 1 tank strat 
what's your in-game name?
Mine?
yes 
The match with lazesy is where i take rank 1
Looks like he just got it back
is it good tho?
Average, need to be lucky and have high skill levels to make her work in PvP
She will work well indoors tho
oh, I didn't take R1 place back
just stay at R3 til now
maybe Chi or other ppl hit you 
I fell back to rank 2 so fast that i guess it was you
I took a wild guess after exit the game :>
Ah, I'd aim for R1 once for daily claim (If I could negotiate with current R1 before claim reset)
after that, I'll slacc 
This is pvp tho but ok
chaos posted ye
either way, the image spirit lives on 
Other people tsubakis: uses ex at the perfect moment to interrupt my hoshino or nonomi from using their ex
Mine: uses ex when I need smash to finish the fight
why don't you use Junko this time, MDRN 
too lewd

Dunno, I see @solemn meteor censor units
So I decide to censor too 
Anyway, finished
Slacc now 
Defensive team should be kept as a secret as the game did for us 
@dull fable can you check my rank?
not if we’re in different bracket

Anyway, did you claim Rank reward atm?
Or not yet
Yes
I have already spent 60 pyrox for another 5 tickets
I don't want to lose more 
Oh, okayyyy
People really love poking me 🥲
Iori is just giving me trouble.
true, its my run mostly win if iori skill out first, and i lose if its not out or she died
I cant wait for the pvp reset, i desperately need the pyro
that was a close call
PvP is RNG oriented 
And with your team currently
A hoshino/ bunny neru is more than enough to stall
having the same problem too oof
An Iori is enough to kill most if not all of your formation
Do you have any dealer specialist?
That should be better than using Kotama
At your level shun might not deal crit constantly
Might need two hits to kill a backline of opponent
Upgrade her EX to 3 then 
One star Kotama... 🙁
Don't use kotama in pvp, her ex will rarely hit anyone worth
from what I remember
Take Karin or Hibiki instead
Or even someone who can CC, I suppose
You might want to place at least one of your tanks on A2/A3
So they'll be in range of more of the opponent's characters
i know its rng but some fights do be entertaining like that
Bruuuuhhh, the clutchh
I'm level 32 rank 1200 and I can only find level 40+, is this normal?
should be normal, you are in a relative bracket with all the other players. Many people should unlock pvp at around lv35 but we also got people who bought AP packs and refresh AP via pyro, so they have more exp gain per day
pvp is a harsh meta battleground that is dependent on luck, aggro calculation and positional knowledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhRKrSSw74
you can watch some matches and take note of the defense team (most noticiably the one on the bottom right -> enemy's first slot).
See how they behave when you place your own tank and damage dealer in specific slots 1 - 4. Your slot 4 is positioned in the top left.
카린 전무2성
나머지 전무1성
0:00 1라운드
1:20 2라운드
2:50 3라운드
4:09 4라운드
5:10 5라운드
6:08 결과 & 딜표
Mostly RNG not in your favor because their team will get off their abilities in perfect order while yours struggle to get one out.
Ya it do be annoying when that happens.
Finished 
nice gems man
Didn't managed to defeat you 
RNG today sucks
Still have tickets left?
The one against you is the final
I have to spent 120 pyrox today only for a comeback

@solemn meteor you guy still attaking TaHisHeRe, right?
I lost xD
Sad moment 
Same, when facing Shun and Junko opening
My team always dead 
Anyway, If you claim slower by 2 min
I could adjust my comp for you 
Real fast tho
Your Haruka is surely good isn't it?
Mine haven't been invested a lot
Not that much
But maybe a bit above average
Cuz I don't have Gehenna Tech Note T2 to lvl up those 2 skill to lv.7 
Looks nearly like mine
But my EX is level 1 and 3 stars 
Gehenna mats need to be save for Ako
So 
Yea, gonna bench Haruka for a while 
And will invest later before Indoor come to global

agree, Top20 seem to be more aggressive than ususal
cuz I fall from R1 to R17 in 4 hr....
(didn't check final rank yet)
I fell to rank 54 when i checked it out
Wth
People also atking u till they win?
Probably cause season ending
At high rank there are not many people to attack
Same names appear frequently
That is not very weird
There's a lot more than usual tho
I got hit like 10 times yesterday
Used to be around 2
What is your rank recently
It was in the 40s probably 130s now
It would be strange if you are that high and get attacked lower than 5 times a day
I wasn't getting the coins, that's for sure
Being attacked 10+ times is very normal up here
Probably was just inactive ig
Thanks
Although it takes me 120 pyrox today
It wasn't as bad

I still have 3 tickets left for reserving rank
Same here
120 pyrox too, with 3 more to spare before daily reset 
U guys refreshing? But y?
U guys got 1st already no?
I didn't even get 1st but refuse to refresh for it.
I did refresh for 1st day climb tho
well it depends
in terms of pure "AP per gem" value they vary a lot
and there are possibly other factors too
like an extra coin for eleph trade

in this case, if the person was orignally doing 15x AP refills, then if he starts from rank 69 it might be worth to do 1 pvp refill to reach rank 1 for extra AP per gem
That's if he can keep it? Or just for the reward claim?
claim
The joy of being at the top
You might not understand 
Especially for me
When I can no longer being in rank less than 100 next season
Y not?
I am a Hibikiless player
Oh
Also Azusaless
She's used next season?
How in the world am I be able to kill Haruka
Oh...
And yes
shun
Hibiki rules next season
Before onsen nodoka only
And UE40 Haruka made she a bit tanker
I'm still like half way to 5 star haruka
I am 3 stars if you wanna know

Azusa might be able to kill haruka
With some requirements tho
Shun cant?
Shun damage bullsht indoors
And Haruka is a normal bag+charm tank
After all T6 gears come out
Shun is no longer able to kill Haruka before your team is killed
Hmm it's probably hibiki/smash I guess for support slots again
If your iori is not 5 stars
If yes, especially UE40
No need for smash
The other special slot is for o.nodoka


There's a reason KR already has siori haruka meta
make shina target her with AA
First time using iori
Wijen is it you?
(Whose should I tag, there's many wijen here)
@wijen
"Wijen" and "Wijen prom date" are two different people
"Wijen 1.1" is an alt of "Wijen prom date"
so just tag both individuals and see if it's either

Wijen is top 100
Thats not the right wijen
Ok
Does the opposing team get cost recovery boost or something because I always see them pop off their skill way before my team does even though we have the same set up.
Is this shun case?
Because if yes maybe your basic skill is not as high as enemy
Shun, Shina, Hibiki and many others.
They basic skills are pretty high level so that's not to blame.
Done for today 
Thank to 1 def lose from incoming attacks, so I don't fall that much
That is a bless
Me dropped 35 steps back
Lose to one guy 4 times
But still
Have to secure this place till the end of the season at any cost
Agree, since I'm not sure that next season would be tougher or comfier 
Why tho?
At 31st may pvp reset to full randomize bracket so no more login based bracket
Map still outdoor
woa really
base on level?
as in if the new sorting system would make pvp harder or not
not just taking into account the terrain, which as you mentioned won't be changing until july
No, total randomize....
No, its more like spreading
Basically no more bracket 1 and 2 asia that really2 active and hard, and bracket 3 or 4 or more that is so chill
basically just saying that it's possible to be thrown into a bracket that's slightly sweatier than others
But logically speaking if it's fully randmised that shouldn't happen

also since brackets will presumably be smaller, most likely similar to JP with their 3k players brackets
Malding for a less sweaty bracket
I mean if you at bracket 1 or 2 rn the player literally all active
Now to make it balance they gonna spread it, literally by random amount per bracket
Instead of rn, based on "click tactical challange button"
Three tanks up front and somehow my DPS gets targeted by Karin so I lose.
how did this guy stay in top 200 long enough for me to get a free win off of him
i've never seen neru do anything useful ever lol
I have also

I wish I was in the weenie hut jr brackets
is this some new strat that i’m too small-brained to understand
why does it send as a file
Just change the format then
casual rat does pretty well against 3/4 tank comps
the real issue here is the rest of his comp

he really cant believe i got 3x perfect skill rotations in a row
One tank strategy....
Lower level team setups really go wild
All the s.mashiros are killing me
Don't use tsubo 
The other special is mostly hibiki
Use Haruka + Hoshi then
I use iori, haruna, hoshino, tsubaki. Hibiki, serina
But don't have shun or s.mash
I notice that when I use shina defense ppl are more likely to hit me consecutively. Probably just to get through time line rng
Immortal junko
That is why smash kills your team
Hoshino cannot help survive for a long time
It's so bad you have no shun
Serina only helpful if heavily invested and 3+ tanks team
I think Haruka has to be one of those 3. Everything else drops pretty fast in current meta
Finally I reach top 300+
ME : Shun,Tsukabki, Hina/iori , Hoshino
sup : Karin, Mashiro .S
oh ya ma bad , S.hina i mean*
I really wish i have shun
I'm 400 then suddenly become 1k again and again because of not having shun
also shunlet here
no excuses

you're getting hit because you run shina d1
and karin 4*

how did junko do zero damage
@solemn meteor SMH
didnt even let me claim 
Waiting for claim queue 
Let me do that xD
Are yall forming an alliance here to gank him🤣
Finally, after 7 matches w/ Qieera 
Just one match with me 
If my Haruka don't go straight to your Shun, I'd lose 
@solemn meteor do you know artemisumi
Yes
The heavy serina strat
I won with the last ticket to get rank 1
The first win against him
Aside from Lazesy
No one around the top chat here
Your last def is something
So what's best position for s.hina ?
generally 3 or 4
but it really depends
theres no 1 pos fits all
since people who attack you wont be using the same comps as everyone
So tank are should be 1 and 2? Since my iori is at 4
When you underestimate haruka and lose
That's a bad pic but whatever
Haruka nerf when she's too strong
Hardcore PvPer aka Intense Dice Thrower
Fall to 67, 2 refresh for comeback to usual zone 
Thanks to ไทกะ, he doesn't use tough comp for today
I would be kicked back as far as where I have started 
But okay
You have tickets left?

karin works because she can instakill hoshino
but otherwise doesnt really do much

karin on def is only so you dont get attacked by everyone
oh ya, @solemn meteor whats your karin at
kinda sus since she failed to kill my hoshino twice
Yes
When I attack she have a 50% chance to not kill a Hoshi
huh
passive?
and sub?
mine doesnt seem to fail unless hoshi has her shield up

mine is 3ex too
Equipment 525 anyways
How is your Hoshi
Well, me too 
idk if she could survive from mashiro
Seem like Asia1 have newcomer for Top1 again
Might check his(?) comp later in 8 hr.
(Well, it's sleep time for now
)
@rancid coral sus link/message
Thanks
No problem
WHY does BNeru keep running behind that stupid bar.
Can't get to the braindead Shun player because for some reason BNeru will run absolutely backwards and away from the fight.
Since today is the last day
Then, time to slacc with this comp 

I was at 100+ went down to 500+
tomorrow is the reset?
Yep, season reset after maint.
Yeah
Yes
Usually i play at noon
Or some minutes before
noted
imagine being lucky
play right away after MT will put you in first bracket?
No, no more like that.....its complete random now
good day 
good day 
show me your defense comp
huh 
Me : I wanna fall to 3-digit/4-digit zone
Also me, after 7 hr passed : Why I'm still at 2-digit 
all right then keep your secrets
why do you wanna rank down tho?
Since I already claimed daily + got capped def coin
And free easy run for some ppl that still climb during last day
what a nice guy 
A full team will cost a lot longer

Well, removed special unit now 
iirc, last season I was fall to R1200 
Maybe I'd see you again in next season 
Along with Midokuni, Intrepid, Mafumaya and others ppl that I could negotiate during daily claim 
But no TaHisHeRe pls
Yes
But only if people are less agressive tho
Many people don't really wanna deal with pvp
Those two upper comps are pretty much the meta
precisely because it's randomized tomorrow
our current rank doesnt matter
so some of us are just memeing before it ends

yeah i dont know what you could be doing wrong team looks good to me
What is that win????
I need more people like this
their student single handledly kill my 3 strikers with 0 dmg, ssg

Why would people want to drop?
Giv up... Can't reach top1... Not even top100
Global server really different from JP server..
JP server we all player final day who reach top1 will automatically remove def team until 1unit...
Global server thy even ask u what thy gain from remove their def team...
We remove def team is to benefit others, so that every active player can claim finish all free gem given from pvp
to get out of the whale bracket
Self won't get any benefit, cause rank arrangement is depend on ur everyday claimed rewards
If u everyday get top1, even u final day drop to xxxxx rank, u next reset will still group into op team..
oh
Culture difference
When is the best time to climb pvp? Now or one hour before daychange? 
^^
oh boy cool down timer sure isn't annoying at all
yeah, i just want to quickly snack top1
im currently bullying level 30s at rank 100
level cap increased so it's only going to be worse
plz dun atk me, my name written climbing..
there is so much preparation to do and my frontline just isnt 5*. it's only going to get worse. i better climb and surrender
heavy whales only have a limited amount of weapon upgrade material right now due to finite tickets. They can only ugprade 1-2units. It's my only chance
last pvp reset i climbed 1hour before daychange and it was mega chill. nobody was climbing so i got up pretty consistently
let's gooo got rank 1 for 2 seconds
lol, i got some idiots who purposefully tanked their rank and forgot to change their defense formation while they climb in the new season
dont mind if i do
Okay, climb finish, will remove def team for other top1, thank you for those no atk me
phew, i did it again
yeah, encountered real player on rank 50 above
oh nice, we getting double rewards now
this is good enough, no more climb up



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