🆚pvp-tactical-challenge

[glossy temple]

but that helps

[tired heron]

My luck in pvp is bad

[raw crypt]

thats why you try to minimize the bad things that can happen to you

[tired heron]

Ngl that feels like im being insulted xD

[raw crypt]

im kinda tempted to try hifumi for pvp

ngl

[cloud scarab]

When i send it i feel like a was yeeling at u even if it was on purpose ...

[glossy temple]

the summer one or?

[raw crypt]

og

[glossy temple]

ahh

it kinda works i guess?

the taunt i mean

[tired heron]

Summer hifumi in pvp hmm

Do 4 tanks maybe yall be lucky

[glossy temple]

One thing's for sure, i'm gonna pull for both azusa and mashiro

wohoo

[tired heron]

Ey same

Woohoo

[raw crypt]

me skipping

maybe just 1x 10pull

then save for shina

😌

[glossy temple]

Miku might come to Global if the collab agreements go well

definitely saving for her

Not really a question or anything but

A round earlier in PVP, i won and lost at the same time.
Both teams got wiped out, enemy and mine.
Since there's no tie in pvp here, hence i lost.

[dense rampart]

Where do I do pvp în The game

[young river]

In Tactical Challenge

[raw wedge]

What is the best team to take down D4 Shun

Which A spot should I put Haruna to effectively kill Tsubaki

[young river]

(from community server)

Urban D4 Shun pull

a4 shun/arisu/mg
a3 ar/sr
a2 tsubaki ( very important )
a1 someone that won't push tsubaki closer a bit higher of the street

the idea is d4 shun can't reach a4 dps, so her next target is a2 tsubo,
but a2 tsubo is a bit far from her reach so she will move towards d3 barricade

this will only fail if shun starts the battle with EX

-credits to Toir

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909822818936553514/910038510419984454/Minefield_XIX_-_.mp4

may help

[raw wedge]

It doesn't help

Shun went next to her team on purpose

[real sandal]

need to show case multiple attempts like x20 with different opponents and characters to really see.

[simple jetty]

tbh the only way to kill backliners is to be quick before they fall back (imo)

or have Hoshino to push the tank back

[real sandal]

specially with standard meta loadout of hoshino, trsubaki, shun, haruna hibiki and seriena

[young river]

I'm pretty sure it's already been tested, otherwise it wouldn't be pinned

[young river]

Which is the point, you use your positions to manipulate shun's

[real sandal]

person didn't shown what rank he is currently, what loadout, how much EX and basic and sub skill level and multiple battles with different opponents and positioning.

[simple jetty]

hmm makes sense

[young river]

the point there is for positioning only

it's not that shun is being killed

stats may vary, but the important part is that you're able to lure shun to a place where she is more vulnerable

[simple jetty]

or a place where Hibiki can hit her

[real sandal]

if my hibiki used skill right after the battle she usually kills her along the process

thats why i maxed out my shun's basic skill

only left is the tanks.

[raw crypt]

he mentioned the point

which is to put shun in a vulnerable spot

the rest depends on your skills

being able to kill depends on your investments

and opponent's investments

the important thing is shun is now at that position

its called Urban D4 Shun pull
not Urban D4 Shun kill

[real sandal]

also noticed in the video shun is attacking tsubaki only?

[raw crypt]

because shun didnt use EX

the condition to succeed in the pull is for enemy shun to not use EX until she reaches the barricade

[simple jetty]

so the strat still involves rng

[real sandal]

rng but with average pull shun win %tage

again which lacks in the video

[raw crypt]

sigh

[subtle musk]

theres way too many variables for people to get such a number

[young river]

wouldn't it just be 1/6 chance of failiure?
since, it only fails if shun starts off with ex, and the game has 6 students to pick from

[simple jetty]

but isn't it more like 1/6 and 1/3 chances

[subtle musk]

thats assuming that successfully pulling it off guarantees a win

[young river]

or maybe 2/6 because shun basic allows the 2nd EX skill to activate faster

this is only about the pull, not the end result

[subtle musk]

dude is asking for win percentage

which i did note as being near impossible to find

[real sandal]

pull + win% tage

[simple jetty]

dam we getting to big brain zone

[real sandal]

ir just pull%

[simple jetty]

imagine being able to know the result before the round even ended

[real sandal]

cause if you manage to pull shun in that position

very near to tanks + hibiki higher chance of winning

[subtle musk]

there will be an expected win rate for every position and matchup imaginable
but the permutations are way too vast to calculate them all

[raw crypt]

if you want to dig deeper

theres hit rate

theres crit rate

[simple jetty]

well then guess we have to hire a coder to make a win/lose calculator

[raw crypt]

theres stability

[real sandal]

yeah, but pulling % tage would be better

[subtle musk]

theres also levels and investment

[real sandal]

aside from enemy shun getting EX first or getting rekts accidentally by 1st EX hibiki >.>

[raw crypt]

ex hibiki has no relation to pull success

[subtle musk]

its easy to run simulations for one set but there are probably millions of possibilities even for a set of characters

[real sandal]

ofc, thats why i said if she gets rekts first by your hibiki ex

what else to make shun go to that position besides those two.

[waxen parcel]

Omfg

Now pvp full of this on my bracket

[boreal current]

oh boy

[waxen parcel]

Yeah im ready for top 100 now

[young river]

the Smash pvp infestation has begun

[stuck flint]

Hibiki specialist has ended

[raw crypt]

?

[stuck flint]

Smh

[raw crypt]

you mean serina

[stuck flint]

Why is there an azusa

[stuck flint]

Yeah prolly.

[cunning widget]

IDK y

[real sandal]

swimsuit mashrio

delete tsubaki ahaha

[waxen parcel]

Its true

Serina is pretty much useless now

You dont need healer since everything can 1 shot you

[raw crypt]

not exactly

no need for healer because stalls wont happen

anymore

not that you get 1 shot

[real sandal]

most shuns 2 shot my full decked out haruna and you can't 1 shot hoshino

specially 5* hoshino >.>

and there's yuuka for counter play

if s.mash or haruna FF hoshino or yukaa due to positioning there's that.

[raw crypt]

i mean

with smash you dont need haruna

so that opens a free slot

for either a 2nd tank for the 1 tank gamers, or iori

which means

[real sandal]

ahaha true

[raw crypt]

your yellows get shredded

[real sandal]

if i ever get smash i'll reinstate my nonomi, she really sweeps >.>

or 3 tanks for lulz

[polar marsh]

I feel like I'm missing something about Tsubaki. I just got her on the Azusa banner, made her the highest level she can go and she still get shredded in PvP even against lower level opponents. What does she need to be good?

[round sphinx]

Did you get her at least t4 bag?

[stuck flint]

3*s, t4 bag

[polar marsh]

She's 2* with tier 1 bag, lol. I don't got the materials to upgrade.

[round sphinx]

3star helps but i think t4 is the bigger priority

Where's the t4 bag meme

[stuck flint]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-gif-23510261

[raw crypt]

its a combination of T4 bag and her massive evasion

[stuck flint]

That image is so damn distorted after all the screenshots over the days

[violet locust]

Should i get s mashiro

Is she really that good in pvp

[simple jetty]

she's a core PvP student

if you're into PvP I would highly suggest you getting her

as she is still one of the best character for PvP

even after almost a year of her release

[violet locust]

She's still widely used in JP?

[simple jetty]

yep

[subtle musk]

If you want to kill tsubaki in any reasonable amount of time

[violet locust]

Mhm

[simple jetty]

the only way to counter smash is too change tanks, especially with O.Nodoka + Haruka

[subtle musk]

Welp i aint getting her due to requiring spark for azusa
Rank insta -1000

[real sandal]

hmm people whos trying to no heal is ez win in pvp atm

4 to 5* t5 EX 5 hoshino mid will save your ass from smash

5 battles they FF my hoshino first LOOL

2nd slot hoshino

[raw crypt]

and then iori busts your hoshi

[real sandal]

nope

my hoshino survives apparently >.>

[raw crypt]

fear me

[real sandal]

unless that iori is super decked out

[raw crypt]

ofc she is

[real sandal]

never encounted iori that can melt my hoshino now ahaha

[raw crypt]

this iori eats both hoshino and tsubo

can kill both in 1 EX assuming no miss

[real sandal]

nice

thats a weak ass tsubo if that iori can kill both ahahaha

[raw crypt]

are you underestimating the power of iori

[real sandal]

no i am not

[raw crypt]

yes you are

[real sandal]

if it hits iori + others yeah she will die

[raw crypt]

she kills even 5* tsubo as long as she doesnt miss

[real sandal]

but mostly 80% my tsubo survives on iori

[raw crypt]

everyone and their mothers flooded towards haruna and shun

and leave iori on ex3

ex5 iori is where we at

[real sandal]

eeew ex 3 ahaha

[floral loom]

And there are people who don't have iori

[raw crypt]

iori has like 2.1k% dmg from her EX

with her 4.8k atk

[real sandal]

MEEEEE!

thoo i can totally get her with elps now

[floral loom]

I'm around 40-50/120

[real sandal]

i'm just waiting to get her at gatcha

[raw crypt]

you're looking at 100k worth of pure raw atk without crit
even after reducing it via def you should have enough

[real sandal]

so i can 4* her

[raw crypt]

tsubo only has what

60k max hp

and she wont be full hp at all with smash in

[real sandal]

anyways never seen iori actually killed my tsubo but did helped kill her

[raw crypt]

Gehenna Supremacy

[real sandal]

usually their iori died ahaha

ether by mortar fire or getting grazed by sniper or railgun frige or shun

but if skilled first and left alive this happens

[cunning widget]

Strong defend of mashiro

[untold prawn]

I know the meta changed but any1 feel like this change didn't really have much of an effect on pvp?

[young river]

It'll take time, to feel the change

this is day 2, after all

[untold prawn]

True, it's not like everyone maxed out their smash on day 1

[untold prawn]

[stuck glen]

Malding

[cunning widget]

What..

[warm wyvern]

Are Iori and Haruna deadly combo

or most pvp meta it just rng

[serene silo]

deadly combo and rng

[mighty shell]

Me screaming because I don’t have a healer and Smash didn’t hit

[magic lantern]

f

[tired heron]

Goodthing her bug is fixed

[boreal current]

what bug?

is it the 40mb patch update?

[livid remnant]

Another 200k+ nonomi wipe

[waxen parcel]

Yeah 200k because 3 heavy armor student

[livid remnant]

Yeah thats the biggest factor to it

Last time i managed to do it with enemy having shun

[random crow]

idk about yall but people using s.mashiro and hibiki in this meta are free wins for me

having no healing i always win the 1v1 tsubaki metapod scenario

[real sandal]

yup thats why for me no healer is a plus to me specially if the opponent have 3* lvl 4EX iori

abit difficult if their iori or nonomi is really maxed out and left out

i put hoshino on 2nd slot so smash will FF her instead of tsubaki

[stuck glen]

Rng still a thing tho, theres still a possibility all hit got in and your tsubaki died immediately

But yeah most of the time actually easier

[random crow]

of course its still rng but everything helps

also playing 2 tanks helps a lot with s.mashiro

[valid kernel]

with a proper team comp that situation doesn’t usually exist anymore

[cloud scarab]

Finaly top 4000

[mellow dagger]

[stuck flint]

kek.

double tsubo killer

Cause why not

I do it as well

wonderful

[warm wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/793572522720493578/946237480691179550/unknown.png

[stuck glen]

Hear beat goes over 200bpm

Tsun vs tsubaki duel

Enemy have hibiki+smash

Somehow everything miss and my shun win

[serene silo]

Suffer

[stuck flint]

Fricking 3 tanks. What do you want them to do?

[floral loom]

They tank.

[waxen parcel]

Make it 4

With yuuka

[serene silo]

To tank mashiro 😏

[stuck flint]

[waxen parcel]

I mean its very common now people use hoshino since counter s.mashiro

And her ex also making her move

So tsubaki kinda like tank behind

Or people use iori

[little mulch]

damn tank meta

this is why i run karin smash

[steady abyss]

Well my strategy of raising smashiro first before sazusa(after all, raid lasts a week) and using her to break my pvp record worked and I got like top50 for a while and my previous was like 200. Good enough until next season.

I also realized that I was running karin frequently specially when attacking

Hoshino will keep being used and even more in next season so...

[waxen parcel]

Yellow tank become more frequent because smash is resist to it

But the problem is

Iori

Smash accuracy + iori accuracy

[steady abyss]

Yeah and if you are bringing karin and smashiro, no space for hibiki to clear the back line with a lucky shot

Sometimes shun may do, but its quite unreliable

[untold prawn]

Your iori doesn't get hibiki bombed up there or they just didn't have one as support?

Actually nvm that's way too far

[cloud scarab]

Can some1 tell me why in 2 loses in can drop 2000 place in my rank from 3900 to 5800 ?

[sour yoke]

I don't think loosing drops your rank? Only winning moves it up. If someone beats you in PVP your place will move down I believe

And if you win you get tokens in the mail

[cloud scarab]

yes but i lose 2 defenses in a row and i drop 2000 places

[little mulch]

2 wins can also bring you back to your original rank so it evens out

[cloud scarab]

is the rank that mobile ? to drop and win that much place in only few hours ?

[little mulch]

yes but you climb less the higher your rank is

i.e i can go from 900 to 700 in 1 win

[cloud scarab]

i think its harder for some1 like me who cant attack every1 bc of my lack of lvl ...

[green olive]

I think you can climb up to 0.7 of you current rank

[cloud scarab]

0.7 ?

[green olive]

So if you are at 5000, the highest you can climb is 3500 and so on

[cloud scarab]

ah get it

[green olive]

so it’s possible to climb back to your previous rank with 2 wins

[cloud scarab]

yeah i hope i can do it again ...

Im just pretty mad bc i drop of rank before claiming my daily reward ...

[green olive]

Happens

but luckily daily reward isn’t much

[cloud scarab]

yeah just a little sad to dont get my first top 4000 reward ...

[green olive]

What server you are playing?

[cloud scarab]

I see it in Version Info ?

If its yes so it said that im in the global one

[stuck flint]

Thats why its recommended to wait for claim to be up before doing attacks

So that you wont have to get problems like going back an hour later after doing an attack and seeing your rank changed

Also when you lose a defense, the winner takes your pvp rank and you get their previous rank

So if they are attacking you and their rank is 3.5k and you 2.5k, you will become ranked 3.5k after losing in defense

So its pretty easy to derank by hundreds or thousands if your defense team is unlucky or just bad

[valid kernel]

basically the higher you climb the less places your position changes on both wins and losses

because the factor of x0.7 is smaller

[upper nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924697841337770076/946336438448971816/VID_20220224162022.mp4

[young river]

[round sphinx]

shun, the tank

[stuck glen]

Man having smash after being a non hibiki user feels quiet now

Barely getting that extra 15 coins

[gray vapor]

everybody have same character as support .-.

Hibiki

[stuck flint]

you need a tank

all your units are backlines

[gray vapor]

thanks 4 tip^^

[boreal current]

peroro-sama is tank

[stuck flint]

stop trolling them

[boreal current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/823822367951814667.gif?v=1

gomenasai

[stuck flint]

[warm wyvern]

is it me or hibiki mortar never hit Aris

[boreal current]

maybe because aris is backliner, isnt she?

hibiki wide ex isn't wide enough

[green hazel]

What Recommendation of skill level for s mashiro so she can one hit tsubaki 5*?

[waxen parcel]

Enhancement > sub = basic

Maybe 4/7/4 for start

[green hazel]

Ex 3 enough?

[waxen parcel]

Depending on your other support skill tbh

And tsubaki enemy level

[stuck flint]

nope. not enough especially if not crit

bring haruna with you at that point

haruna+s.mashiro

[green hazel]

Hmm ic gonna wait next raid then

[rain lichen]

Finally

[simple jetty]

master of PVP

CCL's true rival

[rain lichen]

Mashiro with the carry

[next gyro]

guys, how do you counter hibiki+shun

[stuck flint]

alice

[next gyro]

ok i'll try

[stuck flint]

theres a strategy to using alice in pvp but I dont know much about it

You can ask other players about how to use alice and how to place her properly

[west burrow]

you basically just use her in a triple tank comp where nothing can reach her

tsubaki, hoshino, sumire to constantly keep enemy units back

not sure if it works now though since s.mashiro is in meta

[next gyro]

do you have a sub for Hoshino?

[stuck flint]

that doesn't seem to be what I have in mind

[west burrow]

yuuka is a good tank sub for hoshino

[next gyro]

ok thanks

my current comp are Tsubaki, Yuuka, Haruna and Aru.

[west burrow]

honestly though, if you're going up against hibiki shun, it's all gonna be RNG based on who gets hibiki ult off first

[next gyro]

with Hibiki+Ayane as support

[west burrow]

most of top 100 is very RNG based

[stuck flint]

dont use ayane

too expensive

[next gyro]

i see

[stuck flint]

use serina

[west burrow]

^

[next gyro]

ive been wanting to switch

[west burrow]

yeah use serina

[next gyro]

the mystic one?

[magic lantern]

yea

[west burrow]

yup

[stuck flint]

also to counter shun, you place alice on the farmost side from shun

That way when alice is hitting the tank, she would also hit shun

while shun will try to target the enemy alice

[next gyro]

so on the left?

[stuck flint]

yeah alice tends to be used at A1

if Im correct

[next gyro]

noted

i will try this comp

[west burrow]

slots 1 and 2 basically do the same thing on attack. either way your tanks will front line to create room for alice

[next gyro]

also i noticed that my Hibiki is quite weak compared to the enemy

do i need to upgrade her equipment or skills first?

[stuck flint]

upgrade her EX and basic

[magic lantern]

skills

[next gyro]

currently her ex skill is at lvl 3

and basic at lvl 4

[magic lantern]

hmm

[stuck flint]

put basic at lvl 7.

its very useful

[magic lantern]

thats good enough for me tbh

[west burrow]

I do this

[stuck flint]

also the subskill can be put at lvl 7 for the raids

[magic lantern]

but i recommend this

jesus

🐳

[stuck flint]

yeah thats a whale

[west burrow]

fishy

[stuck flint]

Weird alice placement tho but should be enough to still bait shun

[next gyro]

im tempted to spend money for mashiro...

[west burrow]

IF YOU WANNA WIN IN PFP

DDO IT

im jk. dont spend money. its not worth it

its just pixels

[next gyro]

but didnt you spend money?

[magic lantern]

[west burrow]

i amount to nothing in life

so its fine

you on the other hand my friend

stay pure

[next gyro]

i see?

[stuck flint]

whaling is jsut to make things easier. There are still f2ps who can reach top 10 pvp rank everyday then claim their top 10 reward then just demote by tens or hundred by tomorrow in rank

[west burrow]

^

yup

[stuck flint]

but whaling does make it easier to defend

[west burrow]

there's someone in my top 10 with 3s units

they're fine

[next gyro]

i find it easier to get premium currency in this game.

[stuck flint]

its abundant

[magic lantern]

ur gonna use it all eitherway

[next gyro]

but i also feel like the RNG hates me more

[magic lantern]

cuz pity system is 🚮

[next gyro]

her

[stuck flint]

Dont worry about stuff but I still recommend saving at least like 24k each time and try to plan ahead which units you want to have permanently and skip banners of units you can just borrow

[next gyro]

you can borrow units!?

[stuck flint]

in the future

[magic lantern]

next month

[stuck flint]

a month from now

[next gyro]

neat

[magic lantern]

during summer pt2

[stuck flint]

you can only borrow units in RAIDS

they cant be borrowed for other contents

just for raids only

[next gyro]

not neat

[stuck flint]

and you can only borrow from same club members.

[next gyro]

dam

all my clubmates are dead

[stuck flint]

best for you to leave now if the club is inactive

[next gyro]

last online 100+days ago

[stuck flint]

cause you wont be able to borrow good units or they wont be putting a unit up for borrow at all

[next gyro]

alright i'll search for an active one

[stuck flint]

go to #club-recruitment-old-old

[next gyro]

thank you all for the generous advices

heres hoping for me to finally be able to stay in gold...

pretty cruel for the game to pair me up with level 50's and 60's when im still level 49

[magic lantern]

what rank are you

[west burrow]

that means you're just smurfing bro

get it

[next gyro]

3500+

[magic lantern]

nvm fair enough

[next gyro]

but i get punted around to silver

to arround 5k

[steady abyss]

This is exactly my team, just that mine is not 5* yet lol, just 4*

Sometimes I move aris/shun depending on the first student of the opponent or bring karin in(many hoshinos lately...)

[west burrow]

The comp is pretty cracked unless a shun ults

[steady abyss]

Aris helps against that sometimes, shun likes to go for her

[mystic scaffold]

how good is aris with a shun on attacking ?

[warm wyvern]

laser pierce everything

[steady abyss]

The thing is that Aris armor is also special so she can take a few shun hits while shun uses her ex and targets her due to her huge atk stat. And shun attacks so slow with her ex, so it is sometimes enough for her to be knocked out

[crystal sequoia]

Just for laughs and showing some waifu love

[waxen parcel]

Disgusting

Triple tank + shun + his support is serina and smash

I saw this combo pretty common now making shun literally freedom

[crystal sequoia]

Give em props for building haruka tho

[gritty solstice]

Haruka is pretty OP imo
Tank with DPS skill

[stuck glen]

Eh... Everything fair enough i would say

If anything, before smash, every top rank basically have same comp is more disgusting but it is what it is

Its a pvp gacha game

[waxen parcel]

Yeah man its surprising because this guy know how to counter smash

And shun solo dps making her freedom due to her built-in

I think i gonna use eimi instead for that strat

[crystal sequoia]

I can think of a way to counter that strat but i won't post it since you're planning on using it yourself

[mystic scaffold]

But to say I think your shun can still kill an enemy shun even the enemy is using triple tank

[waxen parcel]

If their shun moving forward then possible

But usually your squad already wiped due to triple tank

[west burrow]

matching pfp moment

[mystic scaffold]

Now im interested to see a triple tank squad

At the same time I think iori can still destroy that strat

[waxen parcel]

Yeah her and shun still can destroy it

But if iori goes to red tank then gg

Resist

[mystic scaffold]

Hmm if they got lucky

But as long as the 3 tanks where close to each other a yellow armor can be killed

Damn I can't still get over an lvl 56 defeat a level 66 because of a damn iori xD

[zealous perch]

Which is Better for PVP? Hoshino or Yuuka?

[stuck flint]

Hoshino

[zealous perch]

i see... thx

[royal apex]

Tsurugi S can compete?

[west burrow]

depending on what you're going up against, yeah

[mystic scaffold]

Depends but I guess yuuka is better

Since having an enemy who uses iori can destroy hoshino

[west burrow]

i would say hoshino is better in almost all situations unless you dont have hoshino

[mystic scaffold]

My hoshino kinda suck almost everytime

But sometimes is good

[zealous perch]

i already try both, and the victory rate is more good on yuuka. But many of my friend telling me that hoshino is meta....

[mystic scaffold]

I really can't forget the fact that me a lvl 66 player who has a hoshino lvl 5 get rekt by a lvl 56 with an iori

It really broke my heart seeing that xD

[zealous perch]

sad XD....

[west burrow]

you can try a different placement to avoid iori

[mystic scaffold]

I tried thinking a best placement for mine but yeah the results can sometime be different

[west burrow]

there is a factor of RNG too of which ex skills you pull first vs them

[mystic scaffold]

I really wished they put a records on battles

Yeah the rng of skills

[stuck flint]

Yuuka gets deleted too fast by iori as even with the 1500 eva of yuuka just one of iori's ex skill bullet hitting is an instant kill for her

Plus iori got accuracy self buff from her skills

[west burrow]

^

[mystic scaffold]

W8 yuuka can be destroyed by an iori

.-. Iori was too damn op then

[stuck flint]

Hoshino on the other hand can not only survive 2-3 iori ex skill shots depending in investments and crit problems.

[west burrow]

yeah situationally, iori is a pretty solid unit for a lot of situations

raids, pvp

[stuck flint]

She can also disrupt and kill haruna and iori

[mystic scaffold]

She can defeat every character even tsubaki can't wistand her

[west burrow]

not the tsubakis in my rank....

[stuck flint]

If timed well, if she survived a iori barrage she just heals back to full hp and also gets shield from sub skill upon ex skill cast

[west burrow]

they dont take damage

[mystic scaffold]

Withstand*

[stuck flint]

Making hoshino really really tanky

And good pvp killer and disruptor

[west burrow]

think other tanks will come into meta since s.mashiro is meta now

the tsubaki killer

ive been wanting to explore other options like eimi

[stuck flint]

I just use tsubaki haruka

[stuck flint]

Might change back to two tanks+twins striker team comp for season 1 due to my s.mashiro

[zealous perch]

can i have some advice regarding my deck?

[west burrow]

try tsubaki on 1, yuuka on 4

[stuck flint]

Shun on D4

[west burrow]

s. azusa on 2

i put shun on 3

[mystic scaffold]

[mystic scaffold]

What star is your haruka?

[stuck flint]

Shun at d3

[zealous perch]

Sadly i dont have haruna

[west burrow]

oh wait @zealous perch is that defense

or attack

[mystic scaffold]

No I mean @stuck flint's haruka xD

[stuck flint]

3 stars lvl 60+

Ex 3

She can wipe enemy backlines

I just switched to haruka cause I dont want to unlock my hoshino yet

[mystic scaffold]

Hmm I see what rank on pvp you on ?

[zealous perch]

Yup, i change my attack deck regularly considering my opponent deck...

[stuck flint]

Top 1k sometimes going to top 800

[stuck flint]

Highest rank I attained was a weird comp using twins. Reaching rank 200

[zealous perch]

But i bad at defense

[west burrow]

@zealous perch oh then Shun on 4 for defense

This is mine

[mystic scaffold]

Ohh I guess you're lower than me but I guess you can go 300 fast if you got lucky

[mystic scaffold]

Ohh nice

Welp can't reach 1 too fast xD I still suck

[stuck flint]

Rng reliant yeah but for the most part top 2k in my bracket 50% of them has full meta teams, hibiki iori haruna tsubaki shun

Before

Now its full of s.mashs

[mystic scaffold]

Yeah what do we expect xD

[zealous perch]

Wait... Is S Mashiro have a great impact?

[mystic scaffold]

Yes

[west burrow]

fuck yeah

[mystic scaffold]

S.mashiro does

She can kill tsubaki

[west burrow]

its kinda game breaking against meta tsubaki comp

we might see some new comps soon without tsubaki

to avoid the s.mashiro

[mystic scaffold]

Thats why you need to use reds too

Can't see anymuch changes yet

[stuck flint]

My pvp bracket is something like this

Kinda hard to climb when I dont have shun and hibiki

[west burrow]

oh yeah without hibiki it is hard...

[mystic scaffold]

Well mostly everyone on the 1k will usually have meta characters

Even I use meta xD exept for izuna

[zealous perch]

Yeah its gonna be hard

[stuck flint]

Yeah and if you see someone without meta characters it means they are the types that just comes and go in top rankings to claim daily rewards. Very few actually can defend their ranks and wake up with like same rank a day before

Unless you are very low rank

[mystic scaffold]

Haven't really seen an izuna in a fight

[west burrow]

honestly don't take ranked too seriously LOL. most important part is to have fun and pull for cute waifus

[stuck flint]

Cough. I used her to cheese before

[mystic scaffold]

Lol idk how usefull she is in cheesed tho

[zealous perch]

well this PVP is distraction when you dont have enough pyor...

pyro

[stuck flint]

Literally used haruna+izuna+tsubaki+nonomi+mashiro for my team and tried force climbing by refreshing pvp attempts 4 times. Reached top 200 and earned like 2k pyros

[mystic scaffold]

How did she perform ?

[stuck flint]

I was fighting against full meta comps

[west burrow]

that is also very true... the rewards are pretty stacked

[stuck flint]

She can delete tsubakis. IF she hits her basic skills

And if she survives long enough

Basically a gamble team comp

[raw crypt]

imagine hitting 100 accuracy against 1400 evasion

[mystic scaffold]

Ohh w8 I though cheesed raid whhaha

[stuck flint]

Miracles happen

[mystic scaffold]

Yes izuna can do really goof

She really help me defend lvl 70 ones

[stuck flint]

Its weird but if izuna just blocks one hibiki ex skill with her cover

She can just melt afterwards

Cause she rarely gets wiped off unless her cover is gone before hibiki barrage

That S tier mood in urban is pretty niche

[mystic scaffold]

Hmmm well usually for me rng really just get her killed or not

[stuck flint]

Not really recommended as its a bad comp but its funny to use if it works out

[mystic scaffold]

But she can survive a hit unless its a crit

[stuck flint]

I used to keep izuna in my def comp and can defend my top 1k from 5 attacks even tho they have full meta teams. They didnt expect the nin nin melting their tsubaki.

[mystic scaffold]

I use izuna in pvp since her launch and she do great

[stuck flint]

Hidden nin nin

[stuck flint]

No. Its niche and a huge coin flip you will rarely win

Hibiki is her bane

[mystic scaffold]

Yes izuna can be lucky sometimes to melt tsubakj xD

Hmmm useally not only hibiki for me hahaha

Add iori on attack and specially shun

[zealous perch]

Well... Looks like it depend on luck... Even yuuka lose to iori...

[mystic scaffold]

Iori is totally a must have hahaha

Ohh damn but to say maybe hibiki is the one who got yuuka

[zealous perch]

Yeah.... Iori Ex Skill Is too dangerous...

[mystic scaffold]

I've seen my hibiki destroy a yuuka didn't expect it to happen but crit by hibiki is powerful

Or maybe that guy doesnt have a military rollex

[zealous perch]

yea, i dont expect it too at first... but when i play pvp, and my squad has yuuka left... hibiki shot my yuuka, and the damage is pretty high

[mystic scaffold]

Pvp is really hard

I really want to go top one in pvp for once but I probably can't because of the lvl and stared students

[zealous perch]

yeah, its kinda hard beating high level player

[mystic scaffold]

By luck you can hahaha

Unless luck didn't favor you

i can't stand in 200 for long

[tall walrus]

👀

[rapid tiger]

RNG sure is strong… I’ve been having difficulty breaking into 1000 this week, so I was surprised to see I managed to win a defense today

I’m surprised, since I usually cannot win against Shun and Iori pairing

[stuck flint]

Lmao that izuna got melted by arisu

[glossy temple]

Can't really decide on my 2nd front for pvp

I dont have Hoshino yet so im forced to either pick yuuka or eimi

[tired heron]

Pain

[serene silo]

Can relate

When their enemy hibiki one ex your whole unit

[glossy temple]

it's either your hibiki or their hibiki

[steady abyss]

What Im hating lately is shun going for cover, laying down after using her ex, changing cover either because of her ex or because it is destroyed and finally dying before even shooting once

[upper nimbus]

unskilled shun

[upper nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924697841337770076/943790234141872158/sturdy_shun.gif

[stuck flint]

Holy crap your yuuka got hit by 2 explosions and iori by 3 explosions

[tired heron]

[rare prawn]

S. Mashiro peak experience

[strange silo]

Both literally K.O but i got loss instead

This is very rare, my shun downed the same moment as hoshino got crit by smash ex

I called a TIE, not a loss

[mystic scaffold]

Yikes that's lit and sad to see hahaha

[mystic scaffold]

Well you always need to wish that the enemy's defender has lower health than yours since the game will not give us a tie xD

[strange silo]

I mean, theyre both technically K.O at the same time. Literally

[mystic scaffold]

I don't remember what happen to mine but I guess you'll litterally lose since you're the one who is attacking

That happen to me as I remember but I did lose too hahaha

[untold prawn]

Hoshino still on the map tho. In this case it wasnt the exact same otherwise both units would be there or both wouldve been removed from the field in ur pic.

[stuck glen]

Just accept the ai decision, they probably know better the timing down to macro second meanwhile ours can be bias

[warm wyvern]

Are Smashiro should be avoided if your team comp special armor?

Smashiro enemies i mean

[mellow dagger]

smashiro lvl 56 ex3 can kill a lvl 70 tsubaki in two exs

maxed out smashiro would be

eh

[violet locust]

what is shiro's targeting priority?

I know it's not closest to target

wait wrong channel

[raw crypt]

... shiro the raid or shiro the smash

[violet locust]

raid

[stuck flint]

I see a nonomi waiting to be one shot

[tired heron]

[stuck glen]

Or shun being dumb cause cover destroyed and walking around first

[waxen parcel]

Shun also has another dumb mechanic

Like when she pop ex, she must lay on ground...
And when ex out either stand up then atk or stand up then run to cover

Maybe her oppai too huge and heavy

[simple jetty]

Sees Smash
Me: "Haruka I choose you"

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[stuck flint]

3 heavy armor students. nonomi BRRR

[simple jetty]

Nonomi Meta

[hollow fjord]

I cant anymore.... pvp beyond 50 is too much x.x with S. Mashiro and Hibiki, they'll annihilate you all the way full of 4-5 star students

[simple jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

just swipe

[tall walrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741064976285958206/830011113667952640/Zz20P4T.gif

or dodge like this. hibki no problem

[hollow fjord]

That's god haruna mode

Still don't have her unlock that much 🤣

[glossy temple]

what in the f-

[stuck flint]

I dont get how that on e cover got destroyed even before the explosions hit it...

Wait

IS THAT ENEMY ARISU?

oh now I see why it got destroyed lmao

arisu normal attack destroyed it, making the haruna who wants to path towards that yellow cover change her target cover

[young river]

6 win streak

[valid kernel]

4-1 today

got up to rank 38 again

[warm wyvern]

I dunno if this is intended or not

[untold prawn]

How much did u invest in smash?

[tired heron]

Smash hits hard

[warped prawn]

zamn, tsubaki 1 shot

[tall walrus]

5/7/7/7

[tall walrus]

wats urs

[untold prawn]

Lol, mines still 1/1/1/1, s.azusa got all my resources.

[tall walrus]

🥲

[violet locust]

Do you guys think running karin + hibiki is gonna work

[real sandal]

nope

better 1 healer and hibiki

tried that, your tanks will loose ground asap at rank 1 to 1000

[waxen parcel]

Barely see karin + hibiki

[raw crypt]

well depends

nowadays no healer is more common so

no healer before loses ground because everyone runs a healer

you can always try

[waxen parcel]

The only combo for support is :

Hibiki + serina = standard
Hibiki + smash = meta for 1 shot tsubaki
Hibiki + (i forgot the one heal gives you evasion) = old school
Hanae + (same as above) = old school
Serina + kotama = if you dont have hibiki KEKW

[stuck flint]

chinatsu gives eva

[waxen parcel]

Oh yeah

That one then

[stuck flint]

the only other support combo is normal mashiro+serina

[raw crypt]

tf are you gonna dow ith eva 40s into the fight

[stuck flint]

kotama is just weird

[raw crypt]

[stuck flint]

If it actually lasts long

[raw crypt]

exactly

[stuck flint]

which never happens

rarely would tsubaki actually last long

but if it does

that chinatsu is

lethal

undying tsubaki

[real sandal]

don't hibiki + smash if your smash is not invested

[raw crypt]

dont use uninvested units in pvp regardless

[tall walrus]

yes just max skill everything 😏

[real sandal]

you either 1 shot 5* tsubaki or replace that smash

[raw crypt]

even fully maxed smash cant 1 shot 5* tsubo

5*, 5ex, menh

[violet locust]

I've been seeing a lot of use of hoshino

[real sandal]

at lease the acc buff will do

[raw crypt]

without crit

[violet locust]

So i was thunking that

[tall walrus]

my smash can

and a lot of others

[waxen parcel]

Why i get ping for tips?

[violet locust]

And since i can't stall the match out when facing smash i thought there's no actual need for a healer

[real sandal]

helps fridge or haruna hit 1shot tsubo

[raw crypt]

yes sounds about right

[violet locust]

Ye that's why i thought i should've just bring karin to kill them as fast as i can

[raw crypt]

which is why

[violet locust]

Mhm

I'll try when facing against a smash

My karin's pretty well invested with 4/4/4/7 so hope it turns out okay

[real sandal]

karin not really that good at damaging even with her skill

[violet locust]

Against hoshino tho

[waxen parcel]

Iori

Not karin

[real sandal]

there's iori to melt yellow armor or soften special armor like tsubo

[violet locust]

Then i guess i'll just die with no tank when my tsubaki got one shot

[waxen parcel]

Thats how meta works

Unless you want like this

Triple tank shun strat

[real sandal]

u no hoshino?

yeah also seeing that lool

tsubo hoshi yuuk

[violet locust]

I'm using sumire haruna shun tsubaki

Sometimes switch out sumire with hoshino if i see enemy haruna in slot 1

[waxen parcel]

Yeah its become fairly common

Making smash confused + shun freedom kingdom

This girl not balanced when shooting to any type of armor

[real sandal]

yeah i even loose on those sometimes specially at rank 300 to 1000

that have full 5* on the 3

soo tanky

they also lure out my haruna

[waxen parcel]

Yeah now yuuka become good tier

And even with 2 soaking tank....yuuka is so tanky as fuk

[real sandal]

i forgot what pos is it

[waxen parcel]

Tsubaki, hoshino, yuuka, shun

Shun always 1 or 4

[real sandal]

but there's hoshino yuka at front at tsubo at bit at the back

when tsubo skills it lures in my haruna and get rekt by hibiki lool

cause she is besides to my hoshino or tsubo

[ripe parrot]

dayum thats 3 tanks

[waxen parcel]

Yup

With shun cannot be touch at all

And 2 tanks with self healing

[ripe parrot]

ey man goodluck, hope you reach rank 1

[blazing dome]

Why must bring my ptsd back

[crystal sequoia]

Tsurugi is hilarious in pvp
She totally messes up team positioning

[tall walrus]

share tsurugi vids

[crystal sequoia]

That's...work lol

[waxen parcel]

Triple 0

[orchid lodge]

god, Asuna vs Shun at the end, so close

[ripe parrot]

its very rare to see Asuna in pvp XD

[stuck flint]

even a hasumi is pretty rare to see

[rare prawn]

from just 3c

[ripe parrot]

this is from t5 or t6 equipments?

I think my current Mashiro is doing 45k to Tsubaki with EX5

[waxen parcel]

This guy (i think same owner) maybe has some of a real life problem rn

[simple jetty]

Haruka

[waxen parcel]

Maybe has issue with my squad personally

[rare prawn]

mine at 50k with t5, EX5 and enhanced 7

4 star tsubaki hp is at 52-53k

5 star maybe up to 60k

[magic lantern]

wth happened here

looks like a tsubaki stalemate

[stuck flint]

seems like it

[waxen parcel]

Why people keep using shun position 2 or 3

2 at least understandable if you not into pvp but 3 cmon

You slay her

[raw crypt]

depends

we have no documentation of how d3d4 shun-aris positions

at least we know a1a2 aris-shun has shun going into a1 barricade

[thick lion]

First time making it to rank 1 🌟

[crystal sequoia]

Nice gj

[crystal sequoia]

With specific comps I've been able to get a2/3 shun to move to cover at a1 or even all the way at the rear. I gave up on it though. Was too resctrictive in terms of student selection and was not really better than a1/4 shun

[glossy temple]

daily dose of hibiki vs hibiki in pvp

[simple jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

[safe basalt]

Guys, do we get any reward at the end of the season according to rank?

I dont understand this

[round sphinx]

it says as you reach it, basically the one time reward for the highest rank you've gained

[crystal sequoia]

Tsurugi and yuzu, no shun comp.

[tall walrus]

damn op

its not a tsurugi thing tho right? its just a 3 tank comp

[tired heron]

1/5 wins

[waxen parcel]

It is 3 tank comp

Tsurugi there just for a bit dps rather than no dps but trade of defense

[crystal sequoia]

Tsurugi displaced haruna to d2 cover, who was originally d3

It didnt happen in this battle, but there is 50% chance my first ex would've killed haruna. Either ex from yuzu, hoshino or hibiki

Since she runs up front, she will aggro s mash or haruna ex at the beginning and tank it

Her atk is the highest in the comp so shun will aim for her too

[tall walrus]

Yuzu seems pretty tanky for a striker

[crystal sequoia]

Yeah she can tank a few hits from hibiki/shun

[tall walrus]

Do you have shun?

[crystal sequoia]

Yes

I tried shun and tsurugi combo, doesnt work as well

[tall walrus]

Got it

[crystal sequoia]

She's there for the position disruption and tanking shun/haruna/s mash. She rarely contributes meaningful dps and tends to die first

[tall walrus]

i dont have 3rd reliable tank 🥲

[magic lantern]

yuzu is mystic defense

[waxen parcel]

Haruka is tank

How many times i have to put this pic

[tall walrus]

im not getting lucky w/ haruka shards

[waxen parcel]

Farm it at stage 13

Dps tank especially pretty common now on pvp

[crystal sequoia]

Eimi is prolly ok too...but she can't be farmed ☹️

[waxen parcel]

Eimi ok

But her dps source only from basic

At cost ex regen

And no some sort of quality enhancement for herself like haruka

Which is HP, def and % def when hit

[crystal sequoia]

Eimi has good mood in urban, which i like.

[tall walrus]

prob should stop bc it doesn't help. she's not reliable bc no UE and mood.

the few whales on na1 and na2 that tried it changed out of it

[round sphinx]

isn't she meta for indoor later?

[tall walrus]

yeah her mood is better and we will have UE

[magic lantern]

yes haruka is meta for indoor

[tall walrus]

that gives her more beef

[round sphinx]

eimi meta when

[waxen parcel]

It doesnt matter, tank not design to dish out damage in 1st place

Its just there to make confuse smash

[ripe parrot]

bruh that Shun went to your side

[magic lantern]

backstab

[crystal sequoia]

Yea wtf was that lol and she took cover in the wrong direction...

[tired heron]

Use haruka

[ripe parrot]

yes Haruka is very nice in pvp

[wild belfry]

hi max success defense reward(the 3 coin) in tactical challange is only 5 times (so total is 15 coin) am i wrong? because i never get more than 5 rewards in a day even when my team won more than 5 times in defense..

[stuck flint]

yep it maxes at 15 coins from defenses

[wild belfry]

oh i see.. ok thanks

[ripe parrot]

I thought I was glitching

so I have to be online to get my rewards if I have a very good defense

[orchid swan]

Anyone has bunny neru pvp clips?

[ripe parrot]

this was sent in #🗣️ba-general https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhRKrSSw74&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Mainblack

[orchid swan]

interesting

So bunny neru More meta than S.hina after all

[stuck flint]

Eva+bag. The best possible kind of tank stats

With taunt and dps as well and a thick shield

[orchid swan]

https://tenor.com/view/katze-cat-hasenohren-bunny-ears-gif-24097339

Curious if this works too even if not maxed like 3* or 4* with good investment in equip and skills

[round sphinx]

lol 4 tank comp actually works

[young river]

about 4 tank comps, got another victory with mine today

[round sphinx]

chinatsu and ayane specials too

[terse monolith]

cursed

[warm spindle]

It is me or they nerfed shun when attacking?

She is always in middle now and get bombarded by hibiki everytime and died first hahaha

[raw crypt]

enemy position

[crystal sequoia]

Urban shun pull probably

[tall walrus]

no shun gang 💪

[young river]

[untold prawn]

How many stars on them?

[young river]

Yuuka 4, all others 3

Hoshino 70 3774
Tsubaki 55 3776
Haruka 65 4743
Yuuka 67/68 don't remember but basic is 8

Ayane 65 3354 T5 necklace
Chinatsu I just bring her for def sub

[untold prawn]

How do u even kill with this team? Or u just out last them?

[young river]

you place tanks in positions that don't get them killed immediately
wait for hoshino to ex, opening path to backline
kill backline
outlast the single tank for the remainder of the match

If they have no healer, you can possibly even kill tsubaki before the timer is up

in this case, shun was still alive, and managed to kill hoshino, but the other 3 survived until the end.

Haruka can also hit backline without moving the opponent's tanks, killing any reds and dealing good damage to yellows

[untold prawn]

How is eimi vs haruka tho?

[young river]

I don't think I know enough about how well each of them performs in pvp, compared to eachother, to give a proper assessment

[untold prawn]

Hmm, then is there a reason u decided on these 4? Or u just picked what was available?

Like I believe I tried this before with 3 tanks but was unsuccessful. But that was a couple months back

Hmm actually my problem was probably the supports. I didn't switch them out

[young river]

I picked them because they were the options available

the specials are purposely chosen, though

[young river]

Another one, wanted to record it but got interrupted by a phonecall
The more I play 4 tanks, the more I guess I realise that the run’s success greatly depends on whether the opponent is using any healers or not, or only has one tank. Beating 2 tanks is possible but there’s a much lower chance

[terse monolith]

so cursed team

[cold zealot]

How bout Natsu ? Is she also a good tank for pvp ? Or pve ?

[stuck flint]

nope. She's only a PVE and raid tank

[cold zealot]

Ah, i see
Thanks donut

[magic lantern]

natsu pvp

[sterile ivy]

why donut? whyy

[stuck flint]

You want your tank to have a dmg ability or a cc. And natsu has none of those

[sterile ivy]

but she deals normal dmg

[stuck flint]

Doesnt matter. They need at least one of damaging ability or cc

[sterile ivy]

Miku gud for pvp?

tell me donut, u have the G.Bible

[stuck flint]

No u

[sterile ivy]

i am good for pvp?

[magic lantern]

miku is interesting but 5 cost is kinda rough

[real sandal]

your shun position or they have baiting and pull tactics

[real sandal]

yup saw this one i was like WTF >.>

[mystic scaffold]

4 tanks interesting

Maybe a S.Mashiro can help rather than 2 healers

[stuck flint]

If only there is a way to make tsubaki move forward to take s.mash hit

[mystic scaffold]

Can a lvl 70 3star S.Mash defeat a 5star tsubaki ?

[stuck flint]

No

You need a 5 star s.mash as well

[tired heron]

Pray for crit

[mystic scaffold]

Ohh I see

[stuck flint]

and yeah you pray for crit at those cases

[tired heron]

Which is 10%

[mystic scaffold]

Maybe a 4 tank was not good even having a 3 star mash

[tired heron]

Fyi

[mystic scaffold]

Still needed a blue damage

[stuck flint]

But for a reliable kill you need to have s.mash at 5 star to delete a tsubaki of the same investment

so s.mash will kill tsubaki without crit

[mystic scaffold]