🆚pvp-tactical-challenge

[warped stirrup]

can boshi work in place of kei/maris?

[elfin delta]

Nah shes not going to work

Shed get pulled

And you would just get killed by shanako

[sage swan]

I build characters cuz imma just burn the expert tickets
And i collect them all so why not lol

If they work in pvp then its a bonus for fun

[ocean gull]

SIori just dies as soon as someone hits her tho right? I forgot, is she usual pin or badge

[spark heart]

she take awhile to die, also she can hide behind utaha turret, making it harder to hit her

[ocean gull]

I mean she runs up closer and if anything clips her she dies since she’s a 650 range rather than 750

[spark heart]

no, she actually stay hidden at d4. and if reach fever time, the utaha turret protects her

[meager island]

Siori is good, Bribri is good

[warped stirrup]

close win but it actually work hmm

demmit couldnt claim r2 cuz i was watching the whole battle

[loud cipher]

What are all these

[somber raft]

No more Hasumi profile for anons

[primal prism]

swimsuit shiroko or m reisa

[plain sparrow]

depends on what kind of enemy comp you face

personally I think m.reisa is the safer option

[vague dune]

@meager island @ocean gull

[ocean gull]

Cherino eh

[ocean gull]

Huh, I see….well still, feel like it wouldn’t be too hard to deal with SIori otherwise

[vague dune]

Didn’t play for a while idk

And I come back to

A lot of tsurugi def

[meager island]

It is season 6 I can't be beat

Kirino angle?!?!?!

[vague dune]

So much low elo comp in t150

https://tenor.com/view/ethplode-matrix-matrix-ethplode-bomb-ethplo-gif-14837927

Anyway yuzu is very funny

Saw her not critting 5x on shanako

[meager island]

Yuzu is on my def

[vague dune]

Trying her out too

I think there’s a couple funny tech here

[meager island]

She is there as my anti solotank insurance

[somber sandal]

Yuzu defense is very meta in my bracket

[ocean gull]

I would try Yuzu but I don’t have Yakumo to sustain that kinda comp

[somber sandal]

You don't necessarily need yakumo for it

[ocean gull]

I know Yuzu basic has infinite range so fair enough

Still content with my Tsubaki BNeru SHanako Shun comp rn

Just can’t use Saki cause less value in my bracket

All I know is that Yuzu can’t survive SHanako spray if that hits her quick enough

[boreal current]

first

[raw crypt]

pog

[stuck flint]

3rd

[young river]

https://streamable.com/zqbimh

[bitter bison]

Bruh

[serene silo]

💩

[young river]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lbXudYH5w3dLdKWxDM4HODZPeuKDRJqOPiU5FkhjvwE/edit?usp=sharing

[serene silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896321022880538644/942546706598346854/Screenshot_2022-02-13-21-22-27-018_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg

not mine

[boreal current]

speedrun

[young river]

Shun basic + Haruna ex + good lineup

[boreal current]

or maybe attacking with only 1 student, just for trolling

[serene silo]

bingo

yuukacry

[young river]

[stuck flint]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-kekwait-gif-24161687

[real sandal]

i hope ONE DAY my haruna fully decked t5 5* haruna can bingo like that

lvl 10 shun energy thingy really helps

[tired heron]

Ikr ai taunts and heals

[slate cape]

What the heck is with Shun in PvP? I've accepted the AI will always use Taunt, Heal, Shun in some variation of that order... but why if she's a sniper does she use her skill then RUN TO THE BARRICADE BEHIND THE ENEMY TEAM?!

[boreal current]

seems normal

[young river]

Her EX increases her range

[floral loom]

She hit them in their blind spot

[young river]

so she'll go to a place where she's as far behind as possible and can still hit you

[floral loom]

It's strategy

[young river]

the ai's way of finding a safe spot can be a bit wonky
But it's mostly just, "she runs to a barrier further back"

[boreal current]

why other sniper doesn't do the same

or do they?

[young river]

They do not, because their ex's don't increase their range

like shun's

they have no reason to move, unless the cover they're using gets destroyed

[round sphinx]

I had haruna and shun just exchanging cover for like a min

lol

[young river]

Though, about sniper placing
there was an image for it, I'll try to find it

[round sphinx]

most likely shun destroying haruna's ai

[young river]

Here

Though, this is for attacking

[hard wagon]

mans made a whole flowchart

[mellow dagger]

hahahaha

pvp

so funny

.

🤨

[royal crane]

What the..

I Don't understand

[terse monolith]

1000 IQ to understand PVP issues

[young river]

What about the image do you not understand

[royal crane]

Just the chart

I'm trying to understand but my brain not working

[young river]

It's not for shun specifically, but it dictates which cover a striker placed on A1 will go to

either the one further back, or the one in front

[royal crane]

O

[boreal current]

how to survive hibiki

[humble palm]

cant

or be mystic armour and tanky

or out of the way

or block/dodge it and be very lucky

[boreal current]

everyone have hibiki now

[hard wagon]

me who doesnt have hibiki:

[young river]

Be high invest haruka

[raw crypt]

no hibiki was fine really

[floral loom]

Haruka + hoshino

ADVANCE !

[steady abyss]

I mostly use her because of Shun, but Aris also resists hibiki quite well and can help against tsubaki when she doesn't miss

[young river]

I assume I won due to stalling, though

Or maybe not, because Hibiki didn’t do much damage

Haruka doing well here

[floral loom]

Aris can do good dmg with her piercing normal shots

[random crow]

whats your average rank with that pvp setup? i'm impressed its even winning

[young river]

the lowest rank I'm often at is around 2.2k
my average range is anywhere from there to 1k

offence is hard

but this team wins more often than it loses, on defence

[steady abyss]

As another Aris user, I sometimes place her in the first slot for attacks too but its giving me better results in defense to keep her hidden in the 4th slot. When they see an aris I see that the ppl that win against me(not counting lvl70 ppl stronger than me of course) place a haruna in front of her and get shun away.

Or if not haruna something like hoshino

I see that going with a much more expected shun in the first slot is working better for me

[young river]

I see

[split estuary]

How long do your pvps usually last

[humble palm]

anywhere from 5 seconds to 3 minutes

[stuck flint]

Kotoma

[young river]

I don’t have anyone better

[stuck flint]

Hanae

Or chinatsu

Or if you want troll

Nodoka

For the accuracy buff on haruna ex

[young river]

But I’d have to invest in those characters

[stuck flint]

Yeah

Wait you never invested on hanae?

I thought better of you

[young river]

I have, though I don’t see her as a better option

[steady abyss]

Lately Im running Hibiki/Karin in a effort to make fights shorter without healers and since I invested in both

[stuck glen]

No healer is too high risk high reward that i dont really feel comfortable

[stuck flint]

too expensive for ex rotation too

you wouldnt really want to use hibiki and karin ex skills at start of the pvp round

thats too expensive

meanwhile enemy be rolling iori or haruna or shun ex skill earlier even tho they used serina ex skill as opening

[steady abyss]

Well Im running shun too

[boreal current]

i think if I use hibiki first (4 costs) it will be better because enemies are dead (assuming she oneshots them), if serina ex comes first then iori, it will be 5 cost and I tend to lose when serina used first -_- well, that's from my bitter experience

[stuck flint]

Thats why you need 2 tanks. The other will move forward so much hibiki will focus on her and cause none of the mortar explosions to reach backline

Making hibiki opening pretty useless and only useful at extended battles

[steady abyss]

More like just not very extended, if its just tsubaki in the end hibiki is a mess

[stuck flint]

Lmao true

[boreal current]

with 2 tanks, hibiki can't reach backline? * attacking

one or two other students often stand right behind tank tho

[stuck flint]

Yeah. She has to target two tanks. Only time it failed me is when enemy tsubaki taunted my tanks and got followed by hibiki ex skill

[stuck flint]

Use shotgun students so they move forward even more.

[steady abyss]

If you use Aris like me, not only she resist shun well, she shoots from so far that usually stays out of danger for long, since hibiki also needs a few attacks to take her down

[boreal current]

there's knockback student beside hoshino?

[stuck flint]

Haruka

Haruka also knockbacks

Just that she has no stun

[steady abyss]

What about sumire?not that I will lvl her up tho

[boreal current]

hoooo, maybe I'll invest to haruka later.. now I'm poor as heck

[stuck flint]

Sumire is just no

Weird tank. Doesnt knock back at all

Also doesnt move forward after casting ex

She just jumps back to previous position

[boreal current]

isn't she's evasion/agile type?

I saw her move a lot

with EX

[steady abyss]

She's just cool

[stuck flint]

Sumire is 500 eva and 1000+ armor

500 eva is nothing

When izuna and neru are 1000 eva

And tsubaki yuuka 1500

[boreal current]

hoooo

[steady abyss]

Might help against nonomiss at most

[stuck flint]

Wait sumire eva is 200

Even worse

She just gets deleted by any mystic unit

[sterile ivy]

there is a good team without shun in pvp?

[steady abyss]

Ok so no eva, just some defense as a front hybrid tank attacker

[stuck flint]

Arisu

[steady abyss]

I was going to recommend her as always lol

[stuck flint]

Hoshino is pretty weird. She can survive iori ex as long as not 2 or 3 hits crit

[sterile ivy]

dont have her

[stuck flint]

Just build hoshino

[steady abyss]

Can neru consistently evade hibiki?because shun may focus on higher atk characters and the rest of the common picks she can usually handle

[stuck flint]

Neru can block hibiki dmg using cover

But only in one explosion

And sadly she doesnt do well in covers in current pvp season

[steady abyss]

Oh, but probably not much since her mood is bad

[stuck flint]

Due to terrain incompatibility

[steady abyss]

Yeah I see

[stuck flint]

Yeah

Izuna is still kinda viable since she can last longer than neru

I managed to reach 1k before againdt dhun iori haruna hibiki users

My highest being top 300 with twins haruna mashiro teamcomp

But I just get pushed out easily back to top 1k anyways

[steady abyss]

Eimi?

[stuck flint]

Eimi cant even tank haruna ex

Eimi also gets destroyed by hibiki

Or a mashiro user

[steady abyss]

Ok, then I can't think of other options, better stick with the ones that work until next season

[stuck flint]

Next season Im just waiting for it

I can redeem my pvp rank that way

Cause current season I got nothing good at all

[stuck glen]

Im seeing quite a few yoshimi lately

Is she viable? If its for the stun, wouldnt hare be better

[stuck flint]

they are probably using yoshimi cause she can deal a lot of dmg on iori or haruna

but honestly I rarely see yoshimi or hare users

what rank are you from

[floral loom]

All I see is hibiki

[steady abyss]

You see quite a few?I honestly dont see any

[stuck flint]

hibiki, karin, mashiro

[floral loom]

Neutral hits hard

[steady abyss]

Yeah thats more like it. And hare is kinda sad, unless you are trying a meme team eva team lol

[stuck flint]

meme eva team might become true if we get bunny neru

but not that much

its still a meme team

[steady abyss]

But by that time many ppl will use summer mashiro

Which is a nightmare against that team. Currently best alternative is normal mashiro and not many ppl use that

[floral loom]

I just want to get rid of tsubaki

Idc if I lose or win, tsubaki 1v1 are just boring

[steady abyss]

Haruna is your best bet for now. I use Aris tho, sometimes she one-shots her but it misses too, its a gamble

The good part is that you can always expect tsubaki, so if you don't see her in the first slot of your enemy, you know that you better not place haruna in from of the first slot

[floral loom]

I abandoned twins for double tank team

Kinda forced to use haruna now

[stuck glen]

Tbf i see about 3 ig this week not much but they around high 1000ish

I just see one while ago thats why i ask

[stuck flint]

hm must be a late bracket if you are seeing people in around 1k with yoshimi or hare

relatively new bracket

[stuck glen]

Here one

[steady abyss]

But, wouldn't those stuns be wasted on tsubaki?

[floral loom]

2*

It has not even a competition value

[steady abyss]

If ppl is willing to waste activity reports they better give them to me so I can raise summer azusa and haruna for shiro&kuro

[stuck glen]

Yes i just remember eventhought im day 1 player i took quite a while to open pvp

Atleast until after first binah came out

I could probably on 68 rn if im rushing cafe back then

[steady abyss]

For me, I was talking yesterday in the other chat about how staying in 9xx is helping me not being attacked more than getting a better rank. I didnt attack at all today and I still haven't get attacked, will probably use my attacks before the reset so I can do it 10 times

I dont know, maybe people dont try to get a 9xx rank since its close to 1000 and they may lose some rewards if they drop a little, and aim at better rankings than this

[stuck glen]

For me i just do it near server reset so i can climb peacefully

Cause once i win and peak but instantly go back quite far cause its on active hour

[floral loom]

You can claim your stuff at reset?

[stuck glen]

And its really ruin the tempo

[floral loom]

I avoid this period because everyone attacks at the same time

[stuck glen]

1-2 hour before reset is actually pretty passive as far im experienced

[floral loom]

I'd have time to lose all my ranks before I could claim my pyro

[stuck glen]

Server reset not pvp reset

[floral loom]

Ye I hate this period

[stuck glen]

Mine actually the best time

[floral loom]

Server reset 8pm, pvp claim stuff 10h later when I wake up

So I attack in the morning and claim right after

[stuck glen]

Probably bracket difference influence the player a lot

[floral loom]

I'm around 200-500

They're tryharders

It's not rare to get attacked 10 times a day

[stuck glen]

Yeah im just 500-1000 but mostly always start around 1300 when starting pvp session

I notice after hibiki banner theres a crazy increase in getting attacked XD

[floral loom]

There was a good balance of karin, mashiro, hibiki before her banner

[stuck glen]

Partly because i dont have hibiki probably

But seriously theres a time where i dont get attacked in 2 day

But recently my history been pretty packed

[young river]

I would have won but the enemy Haruna resisted tsubaki’s CC

[raw crypt]

Haruna: "Sorry, I dont listen to dead people"

[young river]

[desert jungle]

How did shun get there

[serene silo]

must be bait strat

then clocktower collapsed and it became like that probs

[young river]

It’s not bait
Or, at least, I didn’t do it intentionally

Shun was just looking for cover

For that fight

[stuck flint]

Shun got tired of being countered by arisu every single match. She had to go up close and personal

@young river https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/911560577346846741/943458921128030278/image0.png

[desert jungle]

Aris is a decent counter for shun ?

Only when theyre lined up right ?

[stuck flint]

yup

also for wasting shun's time

arisu becomes more potent at indoors

[desert jungle]

Do i look like easy prey because of 2* tsubaki ?

[simple jetty]

yes

also why did you put Hifumi

[desert jungle]

My haruna can carry

So i should swap tsubaki with yuuka?

[modest sable]

Get rid hifumi out of there and put in another DPS like nonomi or iori

[desert jungle]

Got it

And just let tsubaki on first slot ?

[modest sable]

Idk about the correct placement, you might want to ask that to the others for that

[simple jetty]

there isn't really a "correct" placement for defense

[desert jungle]

I mean the first slow is revealed

[simple jetty]

although it is best if you put tsubaki at either P2 or P3

[desert jungle]

Just let tsubaki revealed ?

[modest sable]

Oh yeah i meant for the attackers obviously, my bad

😂

[simple jetty]

ye doesn't really matter lmao

we already know everyone has the same setup

[desert jungle]

I just hate it when i do pvp and i see 5* tsubaki

[boreal current]

haruna gaming

[simple jetty]

RNG Issue

[simple jetty]

Izuna gaming

[stuck flint]

Shiroko gaming

[glossy spear]

why am I getting stronger enemies when I level up? I don't even have that high of a rank...

does the game really match the enemies with your level despite having high or low rank?

[stuck flint]

No its just that people are also levelling up

And they are doing it fast

Some players will pay 90 pyros everyday to get 360 energy all the time

[mighty shell]

Everyone I face is higher level than me. Whale bracket is strong

[violet locust]

Does this mean i don't need to push this season anymore?

Or should i maintain my rank using pyros?

[raw crypt]

not worth using pyros

just do your best to keep it as high without refills

at least when you claim daily rewards

[violet locust]

When does the pvp reset again?

[raw crypt]

runs are on daily reset
pvp rewards are.... 10 hours after daily reset

if you claim, it will show time left for rewards reset

[violet locust]

not the daily reset

the terrain and season change

[raw crypt]

kaiten / summer event 2 / summer hina + summer iori banners

[violet locust]

so soon

[tired heron]

Cool pyro for shina banner

[desert jungle]

Changing to nonomi helps oh shet tq 💀

Glad i upgraded my nonomi

Thank you for the blessing

[boreal current]

is it possible for cheater exist in pvp?
doesnt have to make them climb rank fast, but maybe just enough to make them stay at desired rank, so it's not very obvious

[serene silo]

yes

but most are dumb and gets banned quickly

[boreal current]

how's hibiki target priority?
my Aru stand behind tsubaki, and destroyed by hibiki 2nd skill (the single mortar), my tsubaki have taunt active i think
BUT my hibiki doesn't target nonomi.. and enemy tsubaki doesn't taunt
Aru's distance to my tsubaki is about the same distance as nonomi's

I could be blinded bc I'm a bit mad but I think that's what happened

[young river]

hibiki basic skill targets the character with the lowest hp

[boreal current]

lowest by precentage right?

I mean, I think tsubaki has higher HP than nonomi lol..

[young river]

By percent, yes

[boreal current]

anyways, thank you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813912070885998662.gif?v=1

[serene silo]

hibiki’s normal does aoe too

if your aru stands close to tsubaki (with lower hp), she dies

[boreal current]

yep, that sucks

[young river]

Despite Tsubaki dying instantly, I managed to still do well

[raw crypt]

seems like you also deleted tsubo anyway

advantage due to having a tnak remaining

[young river]

makes sense

[desert jungle]

It is possible because of the level ?

[young river]

The characters there are around level 58-62

[desert jungle]

Ok still trying to understand whats best to use on def

[young river]

I honestly don't know, I've just been trying a lot of different things
This team seems to have the best success rate out of everything I've tried so far, though

[untold prawn]

But... y would they atk d1 arisu with a1 shun? Doesnt arisu focus shun at that point or no? @young river

[young river]

I think aris would, not entirely sure though

[stuck glen]

Can juri work in pvp?

Or they will just go back to the position after taking the poison

[magic lantern]

i mean you never know cuz its all rng

[young river]

They will attempt to go back to their positions, but it won't be the exact same, I think
It's been a while since I've seen juri used in pvp

[stuck flint]

if you want to use juri you need to destroy their covers first.

probably with a nonomi sweep or something

[magic lantern]

interesting team from opponent

[stuck glen]

If auto ai is better utaha not really that bad

Well just gotta try myself

[stuck flint]

Thats gotta be the most bait Ive ever seen

If that succeeds Im gonna call shun and hoshino diff

[stuck glen]

First victim ig

[worthy grove]

now i understand why people hate pvp

broken units doesnt gurantee a win

[stuck glen]

Yeah they not rng still a thing but they can help bring you further in the rank

[crystal sequoia]

I've seen Juri work at high rank but needs to be 5 stars to kill Shun. Less up front damage but more likely to kill shun.

[stuck glen]

Getting 5-0 today

And new peak

With juri

And def also going smoothly

[real sandal]

doing pvp but upper brackets always maxed out

[stuck glen]

Doesnt really matter that much i think tbf

[real sandal]

perks of being low level, people tend to attack you ahhaha

[stuck glen]

Theres rarely moment when you say "ah... If only i just one level higher then i can kill him"

No hibiki can also be a big factor to get attacked

[real sandal]

its totally RNG

but big factor of win FF
hibiki starts first right out of the match started
2nd is if haruka 1 shot enemy tsubaki at the start
3rd shun used EX and uninterrupted at the start.

the start always maters.

what big factor boost for me is when i lvl 10 shun's passive

[tired heron]

Wow thats a powerful shun

[stuck glen]

No other good shanhaijing anyway so every shun probably highly upgraded

[stuck flint]

saya

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[desert jungle]

Rng sucks

[stuck glen]

For me hoshino feels better than yuka for fighting against hibiki

[stuck glen]

What a great joke

[stuck flint]

[real sandal]

the caveat for hoshino is, if someone has really good nonomi and rekt her within the sweep, or their iori FF your hoshino first (which mostly did but mine survived mostly and airded with really powerful shun or karin)

she also needs to be fully equipped you don't want her getting burst and 1 or 2 shot

[green hazel]

Yeah hoshino really weak agains shun

[real sandal]

i find my shun needs more passive skills for hoshino, i noticed mine doesn't damage that much YET.

i also hated when shun ff their tank and my hoshino pushes them, then my shun goes out to her cover to FF that said pushed tank and gets sniped by other shun instead.

[raw crypt]

im not sure what you mean by ff
the ff im thinking of is focus fire and psure it doesnt apply to ba

[real sandal]

it does apply

[raw crypt]

since ff is the default

[green hazel]

Thats the bad thing when using hoshino our shun move and get hit by enemy hibiki ex skill

[real sandal]

it was focus firing their tank for example their tsubaki

[raw crypt]

like

you dont suddenly keep on switching targets

[real sandal]

my hoshino used EX and pushed enemy tsubaki

[raw crypt]

midfight

if you mean multiple units then maybe

but one unit ffing one target is kinda default

[real sandal]

my shun went out of the cover cause she is out of the ranged and her EX buff expired

[green hazel]

Better upgrade hoshino ex skill to 4 or 5

[real sandal]

my shun gets sniped instead by another shun that was staying put in her cover instead

[green hazel]

For now i still survived at top rank 100

[real sandal]

thats mostly the situation my shun gets killed by other shun

i need more glass beads matterials

soo many characters using that material.

[raw crypt]

depends on you
some people prefer 4 for the offchance that it cancels an ex/basic in between stuns

some people prefer 5 for more dmg

[real sandal]

3 is fine

3 have stun right away

[green hazel]

I am this one

[raw crypt]

youll want to ex5 her eventually for hod

@real sandal the point is minmaxing

guy is in top 100

if i didnt have problems with credit

id go for ex5

[real sandal]

i could actually go top 50 again, if i spend prox lelz

[raw crypt]

i have mine at ex4

[green hazel]

Cause it can kill haruna when she get hit by hoshino wkwk

[raw crypt]

a fully maxed haruna lives

mind you

and mine is 5*

[real sandal]

my haruna always get kileld by hibiki or shun but never hoshino >.>

same mine is maxed 5*

[green hazel]

Same

[real sandal]

mine surived hibiki motars aslong its not crit ahaha

[green hazel]

Hoshino and haruna is 5*

[raw crypt]

but yea

in the end its preference

do you want to gamble

with ex3/4

or kill with ex5

[green hazel]

I want to make tsubaki also 5 but.. Well i want to use it for limited one wkk

[real sandal]

useful limited one

[green hazel]

Yep

[raw crypt]

i can count the number of times the stun-cancel happened with my fingers

[real sandal]

swim suit mashiro!

[raw crypt]

which is why i would prefer to ex5

[real sandal]

for PVP and raid ❤️

[green hazel]

S mashiro gonna be meta at pvp right

[raw crypt]

mashiro isnt really for raid

pvp yes

[green hazel]

One hit tsubaki

If investment

[raw crypt]

smash changes the pvp meta

even if not one hit

[real sandal]

delete tsubaki

[raw crypt]

her debuff and buff

makes everyone else

not miss

against tsubo

aka tsubo dies

[green hazel]

One more i hate is

The first one to skill is serina

[real sandal]

ahh that one...

[raw crypt]

i mean if you hate it so much

try removing her then

[real sandal]

if she skills first win chance is lessen

[green hazel]

But if i remive her kinda like gamble whens tsubaki vs tsubaki wkwk

[raw crypt]

which is why you run 5 attackers 1 tsubo

end the fight

instead of draw the fight

[real sandal]

i wonder, can you put x2 mashiro in pvp?

does their buff stacks?

[green hazel]

No

[raw crypt]

technically yes but no reason to
the sub skills of the same type dont stack

[real sandal]

ohh okay soo for example koto + karin passive doesn't stack?

[green hazel]

Nope

And the more frustating is when ur haruna miss but the enemy haruna hit

[real sandal]

yup ahaha

[green hazel]

Its really rng

[real sandal]

the fit girl also tanky

[green hazel]

Fit girl?

[real sandal]

when haruna dies

[green hazel]

Oh sumire?

[vagrant flint]

You guys have haruna?

[real sandal]

yup

[boreal current]

from day 1

[green hazel]

U will have haruna

[vagrant flint]

Dang

[green hazel]

Just farm her

[real sandal]

i battled an invested one

[vagrant flint]

Well I am farming her, already at 87 elephs

[real sandal]

lost because my haruna changed target from her to tsubaki

[raw crypt]

i honestly

i see a sumire in fight

i already expect a win

[green hazel]

Thats a little more, u can do it

[vagrant flint]

Idk man, will haruna be useful in pvp? I mean.. S. Mashiro is coming

[real sandal]

... unlocks haruna from elps

[raw crypt]

well

if you dont have smash

she will be

[real sandal]

then the next banner roll you get haruna ahaha

[green hazel]

The invested sumire really hard like second tsubaki

[raw crypt]

thats why you dont unlock asap if you plan on rolling shortly

[real sandal]

well she is useful as specially on special opponents like raid normal stages event stages

and completing unlock commission till H that gives you money

[green hazel]

Haruna is really usefull its not a waste to have her

[real sandal]

i actualy have more tha enough elps of other chracter i just don't unlock them, and hoping that i get them from gatcha

soo i can 4 or 5* them asap

like iori ahaha

still hoping i get iori in gatcha soo i can 5* her asap

[green hazel]

Good luck

[stuck flint]

Haruna first skill. This fight is an instant win!

Misses

[real sandal]

yup i'll need it ahaha

[green hazel]

Thats what i mean

[stuck flint]

Their yuzu actually had decent aoe range

[green hazel]

And nonomi will kill all ur students there

[stuck flint]

Oddly enough

[real sandal]

ohh level 5 EX midori with poison twin buff also lit

[stuck flint]

My haruna survived nonomi ex

[real sandal]

1 shot most back liner like shun too

[green hazel]

Lucky

[stuck flint]

Cover block+no crit

Still lost

Cause that yuzu aoe

Is actually pretty good

Clock pushed tsubaki to my backline

Yuzu just uses basic skill

Kills haruna

[real sandal]

my hoshino kills pleab 3* haruna ahaha

if i had her ex at 5 she would probably delete 3* haruna >.>

[green hazel]

Yeah ex 5 is hurt

Oh and i dont know why but many ppl will attck def formation with shun in the first slot

[stuck flint]

counterable.

thats like easily hit by hibiki aoe

if you put shun at D1 slot.

[raw crypt]

because shun d1 is easily counterable

[stuck flint]

shun should be like in d4 afaik but thats also counterable by an alice at A1

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[green hazel]

If u use hoshino and place her at D3, hibiki ex will not hit her

But if u put shun at d4 she most likely survive till the end wkwk

[boreal current]

dedication

3 times, enemy's haruna burst destroys my tsubaki
last run, my haruna finally destroys their
revenge tastes so sweet, muahahaha

[stuck glen]

6-3 so far and still on top 500

[stuck glen]

Definitely malding

Oh wait its you the one who attack 4 times XD

[boreal current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897744969769549875/935014602398367774/gif-speed.gif

[stuck glen]

Well its about sending the message isnt it

[stuck flint]

Its about sending 9 pvp coins

[magic lantern]

wonder what happened here

[stuck flint]

4 red dps

Vs a tsubaki and arisu

[cold zealot]

Arisu supremacy

[serene silo]

feels good when your enemy puts a1 shun/a2 tsubaki then your arisu could kill shun at the same time

[sterile ivy]

i dont have her

[cold zealot]

Hmm, Haruna then

[sterile ivy]

i dont have haruna

[cold zealot]

How bout Iori ?

[sterile ivy]

i am using her, also gonna use her on ShiroKuro

[cold zealot]

Yeah, don't forget pull for s.azusa in the next banner

[sterile ivy]

idk if i will be able, only have 7K

need a lot of luck

[cold zealot]

You'll get her on the 4th pull

[sterile ivy]

hopefully

if not i will use izuna and iori

[cold zealot]

Yeah, i think that should be enough to clear hc with high invest on both

[sterile ivy]

i am lvl 52 and my Izuna is all T4 with 2/8/2/5

i am good?

also iori is with t5 hat and 4/5/3/5

[cold zealot]

Hmm, i think that will do

How bout chise ?

[sterile ivy]

i dont have her lvl up

and all T1

[cold zealot]

[sterile ivy]

my only good blue unit is izuna

perorodzilla and shirokuro will be pain to me

[cold zealot]

In that case you should leveled her up

I mean chise

She's good for srkr if you don't have haruna imo

[sterile ivy]

the thing is i am farming haruna

but only have 82

long way to go

[cold zealot]

You only need 18 more

[sterile ivy]

hopefully 2x will return

to refresh the hard mission

[cold zealot]

Yeah, you have 3 more days before srkr begin

[sterile ivy]

with my level HC is my goal

EX is imposible

[cold zealot]

Same for me

[sterile ivy]

🤝

[cold zealot]

[stuck glen]

Experimenting with juri somehow a success

Doing much better than using karin before

[green hazel]

Well my luck is very good today

[cold zealot]

Same here

[weak grotto]

Is this you at rank 41?

[cold zealot]

Yep, that's me

We're on the same bracket

[weak grotto]

I see

[weak grotto]

Yeah, with iori always survive at 1st rank

[cold zealot]

Yeah, a couple days ago he's ranked 3rd, and he always go back to 1st the next day

At first i thought iori was a bot, and then i realize he's a real player 😅

[green hazel]

Cool

[young river]

Such a nice line

It’s too bad my aris was underleveled and only able to kill shun

The match ended as a standoff between harunas, and I lost

What’s most surprising is that they managed to kill the enemy tsubaki

[green hazel]

4 tank, intresting

[cold zealot]

Just realize, using 4 tank 😂😂😂

I think that would be fun using 4 tank formation for defense 😆

[young river]

I only did it because:
-they have no healer
-A1 and A2 were both offensive strikers, making positioning tanks so that they don't die immediately easier

I don't get to do it often without losing (provided that the above is false) but it's funny when it works

Chinatsu's there for def up sub, and Ayane's there for max hp up sub

[boreal current]

why they put tank d4

[young river]

[stuck flint]

D4 solo tank

Easy attack

[inner zealot]

D4 tank ptsd

[knotty heron]

the most satisfiled Aris EX I ever seen

[sterile ivy]

You rank 1

how

[cold zealot]

Yes, but a week ago

[cold zealot]

A lil bit tryharder

[sterile ivy]

what's your line up?

[cold zealot]

Tsubaki, iori, haruna, shun

[sterile ivy]

I need haruna

[cold zealot]

You can also use arisu

Like graplo

[sterile ivy]

I dont have arisu

I use hoshino tsubaki iori shun

[cold zealot]

I also use hoshino for defense

[sterile ivy]

she pretty gud

specially with the stun

thank God haruna is yellow hp

[cold zealot]

Yep, and the knockback effect

Help a lot to reach shun on enemies backline

[sterile ivy]

but sometimes push haruna to cover

[cold zealot]

[sterile ivy]

[untold prawn]

Can any1 tell me why some ppl in pvp have different color font for their name?

Is that supposed to signify something?

[inner zealot]

it's from a feature bug that was removed in november. You used to be able to add a color code to your name

[untold prawn]

I still see them tho. Like just yesterday I fought 1 red name.

I wonder if its legal.

[round sphinx]

it's still there if they do the bug beforehand, but we can no longer do that now

[steady abyss]

Do you guys think we will start seeing smashiro in pvp from day1?I plan(if I get her) on taking a few days to raise her since I plan i raising sazusa first and both are trinity

[cloud scarab]

the guy is certain to get her day 1 ...

and im not good enough to answer u ...

[river flume]

Can't you get her with spark anyway?

[cloud scarab]

spark = eligma ?

[river flume]

So yeah there will be at least some guys with it almost on launch

[river flume]

No, the points you get when rolling, forgot its name

[cloud scarab]

ah pull point ?

[inner zealot]

If i get her after maintenance i will almost certainly rush pvp

[cloud scarab]

dont get why i havnt been attack since i get into pvp ...

[inner zealot]

what's your rank

[cloud scarab]

around 8000 i start yesterday at lvl 19 ...

[inner zealot]

probably arent many folks outside 3k that care about pvp

[cloud scarab]

will be hard to rush at 3k with only an acount at 25 ...

[inner zealot]

more than that though is the pool of people each person can attack is larger, so you're less likely to show up on their list

[steady abyss]

Actually its not a bad approach trying to raise her and use her first day...saving pvp tickets the day before, and trying to climb ranks to a new record. After all raid lasts a week and we have time to raise sazusa

[cloud scarab]

how high can i reach with iori n shun as only 3* in pvp ?

[steady abyss]

Iori and shun are very good for pvp, I think you can have a great team and probably will win until the level/equipment/skills difference with your enemies is too high

[inner zealot]

if you were a level 70 sensei, probably a chance to reach the top spot for a hot minute.

[river flume]

Very far, you just need to get some levels and equipment and you will not have much trouble getting top 1000 with not much effort

[cloud scarab]

just need to buff my skill/equipment but i dont rly know how i can earn lot of upgrade stuff since my account only start its 5th day ...

[steady abyss]

Since you dont have more 3*, maybe you can use nonomi or yuuka(besides tsubaki of course)

You should have these 2 at least

[cloud scarab]

isnt this better to save the 80 nonomi's eligma from the beginer trials rather exchenge it for the student ?

[inner zealot]

no, there's no other way to get nonomi

[steady abyss]

There is no point on saving that as its just for nonomi, its not the universal one that you can use in any character. Therefore its used to raise her to 3* and its the easiest way since she is not in the gacha

Those beginner missions give you enough to get her to 3*

[inner zealot]

its worth consider for Mutsuki, but she's just leagues better than the starter red, Suzumi

[cloud scarab]

my comp for the pvp now is tsubaki iori shun n mutsuki with serina n kotama as support

[steady abyss]

That's ok, however mutsuki mines in pvp probably won't hit much

[cloud scarab]

think that her mine are more usefull in pvp than pve ...

[steady abyss]

In raid there are strategies for that positioning her with serina mostly, but in pvp you just have to be lucky that the enemies run into them

If the one running into them is tsubaki, then its a waste too

So I think you may do better with yuuka or nonomi

[cloud scarab]

did the AI of the chick who drag 4 enemis with her weird food is good enough ?

[inner zealot]

i've heard she works as a shun counter strategy, being a mg user. not too sure since i've not built her

[steady abyss]

Juri? Never tried something like that, its not commonly used

[cloud scarab]

yes her

think it could be good if it attract a squishy student on mutsuki's mine

[steady abyss]

The ai for hibiki, which is 5 circles for her mortars, usually just centers it on 1 enemy and whatever it hits around its just luck, so I wouldn't count on Juri being used wisely like that

Hibiki ai won't try to hit as many enemies as possible, so I guess juri wouldn't be so smart neither

[cloud scarab]

think juri's ex skill could be good if the circle was bigger n the ai better ...

[inner zealot]

i guess if you manage to tag a haruna on the edge, shun would then have to sneak in shot in the short time she's out of cover. It sounds unreliable

[steady abyss]

Some characters could use a rework indeed, but sometimes weird and unused characters get their time to shine as new enemies and challenges come

Like, last shiro&kuro insane in japan I saw some people using airi

[stuck glen]

Juri good for pvp

[steady abyss]

Then why I don't see anyone using her?I think that at best she is a a gamble probably not worth your resources

[stuck glen]

You can scroll up a little bit where i show my result on experimenting with her

Obviously to go top rank you still need hibiki but she actually pretty solid in high rank

Actually more consistent in defense too compared to when i use karin

[steady abyss]

Good job trying that! Karin indeed wastes her ex frequently missing on tsubaki, but if her sub is highly invested, its a good buff for the team

[stuck glen]

I think juri sub is also one the biggest factor she's worked

Instead of increasing atk where its probably only matter to tsubaki most of the time having more health help a lot winning stall match

By winning because of higher health

[steady abyss]

To stall? Sounds to me like that yuuka/neru/tsubaki/izuna/hare/chinatsu we were talking about the other day

Something you would try for fun but in the end not better than what ppl usually use

[inner zealot]

i think stall matches depend on the remaining % of hp of all your charas. Tsubaki is a large % of that of course, but if you're increasing everyone's hp by the same % then Juri's sub make no difference.

[stuck glen]

Well doesnt really matter what makes it work, but at the end of the day i obviously cant get to top rank and im not going to tryhard it anyway

So i just wanna have some fun and spread chaos

I havent got kicked out of top 1k yet so im satisfied with it

[steady abyss]

I usually get kicked out a few mins before rewards while Im sleeping

[weak grotto]

Hi @strange silo

[strange silo]

Hi

[magic lantern]

what in the

[stuck flint]

Juri's ex skill is actually decent as it stays in the battle field until 4 units took the bite out of it

So if your tank gets killed and enemies want to attack your backline

Their units would have to move forward and eat the demonic pancake

But of course using juri in pvp is still a huge grief

Pretty funny to watch nevertheless

[magic lantern]

im still confused wth happened

unless mashiro got the ex down + additional 50% chance in at the last second

[steady abyss]

Sometimes my aris does a lot of damage to tsubaki but thanks to serina she stays alive. Other times when there is enough time to fully charge her ex, it can one shot tsubaki

I guess match was long for mashiro to perform like that

[stuck glen]

Its not a grief when you actually done better with it

[stuck flint]

True

[stuck glen]

Rng, thats all

[steady abyss]

Is Juri's ex damage ok?Like I said somewhere else I hate that DoT characters don't show total damage since we don't know how many times damage applies over their duration

[stuck glen]

As i only use lv 35 juri and only sub lvl up she does around 2-5k

[stuck glen]

Most of the time just 2-3k tho

[stuck glen]

The whole match btw not each ex XD

[steady abyss]

Utaha got the same sub, maybe the turrets can act as fodder and be more useful than the creepy food

Not that I have high hope for her tho, but I always like units that can summon something

[stuck glen]

The thing is utaha will put it near your tank so its usually caught up near hibiki or mashiro blast

I also have tried her but unsuccesful

Only juri somehow work and even more consistent than karin

[steady abyss]

I saw that utaha worked well at hod

[stuck glen]

But we are talking pvp here

[steady abyss]

Yeah, fair enough

[stuck glen]

You can also just try it yourself like me XD

Unless you are like in top 100 and dont wanna lose it

[steady abyss]

I usually stay under 1000, except in a few hours before reset. I will sleep soon then lose my rank right before rewards

Im thinking of raising fast smashiro the first day and try climbing some ranks, I want to raise other chars for the raid but the raid will last a week, so I think it can be a good pvp strategy to try hard with smashiro on tuesday

As time passes we will see her more I guess

[stuck glen]

Well then we are on estimately same rank range so i think its okay for you to experiment thing

Before tryharding when s mash come

[mellow dagger]

im surprised someone actually chats here lol

[green hazel]

Some of us like pvp wkwk

[mellow dagger]

ah

i remember being like that

liking pvp

then after reaching lvl 60

started hating it

[magic lantern]

lmao

[stuck glen]

Not tryharding it is the key lol

[wild belfry]

Yeah same, i stop focus on pvp when i reach rank 300

[mellow dagger]

i reached rank 7 and stopped focusing on pvp

[green hazel]

Well rank 7 give u lot of pvp coin

[stuck glen]

Tbf thats already very high

[mellow dagger]

i was lvl 38? when i reached rank 7

that was the time i liked pvp

still regret saying i liked pvp back then

[green hazel]

Ah thats in the past

[mellow dagger]

well i could reach rank 1 maybe if i tried again today

doesnt give me that much pyros now tho so ill just for pvp new season

[magic lantern]

primos

[green hazel]

I am rank 13 now and it kinda hard to get top 10 wkwk

[mellow dagger]

wat bracket?

[green hazel]

Bracket like server?

[mellow dagger]

no

send me your leaderboard

we might be in the same bracket

[green hazel]

Wait

[wild belfry]

Is all player in the same server or no? i'm still confused about it

[mellow dagger]

diff server

theres eu na asia korea

japan

[green hazel]

@mellow dagger this one yesterday, i cant on right now

[wild belfry]

Ohh

[crystal sequoia]

Shun in D1... usually at that rank he's baiting with something up his sleeve

[mellow dagger]

nah

[wild belfry]

My current special student is hibiki and serina, i'm planning to change serina to smashiro later after update, so no healer.. is it a good idea?

[mellow dagger]

below 1000 is the same team comp

so there's really no bait

since you're just gonna except iori or haruna

[crystal sequoia]

At least you'll never get serina first ex

[green hazel]

If the battle stay longer its bad idea i think

[mellow dagger]

nah

battle stay longer = more possibility to win

[wild belfry]

Ah i see

[green hazel]

50:50

[crystal sequoia]

But if your s mash aims for hoshino you've basically lost i think

[mellow dagger]

iori*

s mashiro tsubaki murderer

wait no

i misread that

[green hazel]

It target tank right?

[mellow dagger]

ye

[green hazel]

So theres a possibility it hit other tank wkwk

[mellow dagger]

hoshino is most likely gonna be the one whos gonna get targeted

[green hazel]

Yeah

[mellow dagger]

based from experience i see my hoshino getting targeted by haruna or my haruna targetting the hoshino

[green hazel]

If tsubaki D1, and ur haruna at A2 ur haruna will attack tsubaki

[desert jungle]

Actually staying at 600-900 is good for pushing coin right ? I couldnt push more at 500 with my 2* and 3* unit ill just be laying down and taking other people tickets 🌚

People keep baited by my 2* tsubaki here

And vet crushed by relationship 12 haruna 10 nonomi t5-t4 equipment

[waxen parcel]

Below 1k is already secured everyday of your AP pot

Above that is bonus for saving, ofc for upcoming mashiro and exp in case you needed

[desert jungle]

Alrd stressed enough people above 500 have 5* iori and 4* tsubaki cant pierce thru that not to mention im 10 lvl below them ....

[waxen parcel]

Depending on your server tbh

I dont have any issue pushing top 100

[stuck flint]

Dont need to stress too much youll catch up to them within a month

[waxen parcel]

Yeah as long as below 1k then free AP everyday

[crystal sequoia]

Looks like your server less tryhard than mine...

[stuck flint]

If you are top 1k you can easily get attacked 5 times or more. Aim for top 1k to get the best leasr stress yet good pvp coin earnings

If you win those defenses at least

[waxen parcel]

Less tryhard btw

[mellow dagger]

nah

in my bracket almost nobody attacks me

so i always stay around 800-80

[cold zealot]

Looks like we're on the same bracket

[waxen parcel]

What your rank?

[cold zealot]

Hmm, 38 this morning

[waxen parcel]

I really tried hard for at least touch rank 1

[cold zealot]

Yeah, really need to tryhard to reach 1st

[waxen parcel]

Exactly

Thats why i change my teamcomp using aris now

Instead of bring 2 tanks

[cold zealot]

Yeah, she's good to counter shun

[waxen parcel]

Yeah i just need placement

Because i know for sure she is not position 2

[hard wagon]

god literally everyone and their parents have hibiki on pvp this is so sad

[stuck flint]

The pain

Unless we get s.mashiro hibiki gonna be everywhere

[stuck glen]

The sad truth of pvp gacha

Every top rank is just the same meta team

[waxen parcel]

That is only if you care about season reward like me

If not then stay at 1k below is just fine for free AP everyday

[green hazel]

With diff skill level wkwk

[young river]

I’ve never seen 2 characters on the same team do 0 damage before

[round sphinx]

there are 4 0-damage though

[young river]

you know what I meant

[untold prawn]

haruna probably one shot them both at the start

shun is slow af if she got her ex so chances are she got sniped b4 even getting to take a shot

[stuck flint]

Dang unfortunate

[boreal current]

maybe shun's facing wrong direction

and tsubaki fell asleep

[waxen parcel]

Nah

Shun position 3 is hot garbage

She build to stay at position 1 or 4

Because this map has 2 cover that very far so she can snipe enemy easyly

And other thing is position 3 is always get hit by hibiki if you put tsubaki at 2

[crystal sequoia]

Except that he wasn't using hibiki lol

2 kotamas!

[glossy temple]

is it me or PVP is reliant on RNG

[strange silo]

“It always has been”

[glossy temple]

it's either your hibiki or the enemy's hibiki

who goes first, wins

[raw crypt]

not exactly

it also depends on formations

and skill levels

[glossy temple]

true that, but since i've experienced getting my back units one shot by the hibiki ult
and tsubaki just being tsubaki carrying the battle.

[raw crypt]

thats a positioning problem

you try to position in such a way that your backline isnt nuked

[waxen parcel]

Tbh

Rng is playing the most factor

But position and skill also matter

And if match end with tank vs tank then usually game factorizing remaining HP, lvl, etc

[raw crypt]

i think the opposite

rng is a factor

but positions and levels matter most, after which stars

levels only stop mattering once everyone is capped at lv70/5mmm

[waxen parcel]

Starting ex sometimes do factoring

Miss and hit too

[raw crypt]

feels nice not relying on tsubo kills

😌

less rng

more consistency

but going back
once you bring out levels, the difference appears in the positioning, skill levels, and stars

rng helps you or nukes you but those things help you put a better chance for you

[glossy temple]

my position is pretty fine tbh
Back - Front - Back - Front

[tired heron]

Helo pvp peeps

[raw crypt]

its not just your own positioning, but also opp positioning

[glossy temple]

or Front Back Back Front

it would really help if i can see the opp positions 😭

[tired heron]

I only know they have a tsubaki :natsusip:

[raw crypt]

depends on your rank

you can make various assumptions

[glossy temple]

im at 800-1000

[raw crypt]

for example, in the upper ranks you can assume everyone has shun

and tsubo

[glossy temple]

Bruh shun

[tired heron]

Lol so true

[raw crypt]

so if d1 is neither, that means you already know 2 of the hidden cards

[glossy temple]

that girl just snipes my team out of existence

[raw crypt]

and chances are they have haruna too

[tired heron]

Are higher than getting a 2*

:natsusip:

[raw crypt]

i would say its gonna be dependent on your experience for that

you get a sense of intuition

figuring out what this player would possibly use

if you have problems targetting d1 shuns is always a valid attack strategy

d1 shun means shun is vulnerable

as long as you know how to handle it

[glossy temple]

piercing aoe works right?

like from nonomi or momo

[tired heron]

Nonomi roulette

[raw crypt]

invested sure

but

roulette

yea

[tired heron]

Nonomi cant kill shun

[glossy temple]

How does roulette work?

[tired heron]

:hoshinodumb:

[raw crypt]

its a roulette because

[glossy temple]

my nonomi did kill shuns back then

[raw crypt]

she either wipes the entire enemy backline

or she just dies

or she misses

[glossy temple]

it's just a matter of who uses EX first

yeah evasion too

[raw crypt]

evasion isnt a problem most of the time

[tired heron]

Maybe cuz ur higher lvl

[raw crypt]

its nonomi's shitty accuracy

[glossy temple]

gonna get that Mashiro for that ultimate tsubaki counter

[raw crypt]

i personally like using aris to target d1 shuns

[glossy temple]

they're usually higher

[tired heron]

Yes smashiro destroy tsubaki

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by 1-3 levels

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but peopel also use shun to counter shun

[glossy temple]

pain

shunless person

[tired heron]

Ok maybe ur nonomi just suppa invested

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did you intentionally ignore the first part of my statement

[glossy temple]

no i didnt

i dont have aris

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the idea is that

you want someone who can target shun

it doesnt need to be aris/shun

[glossy temple]

haruna works right?

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sure but you use haruna for tsubo, not shun

[tired heron]

Ye a3 haruna can kill d4 shun

[glossy temple]

since my haruna is almost 5 star

[tired heron]

Or is it A2 i dont rember

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standard MGs can handle d1 shuns too iirc

[glossy temple]

thanks for the tips though

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basically boils down to figuring out how to handle the diff positions with your hands

[glossy temple]

praying to rng works well too

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d3d4 tank with a1 as long range