🗼final-restriction-release

[autumn snow]

Like this?

[cosmic parrot]

no put dhina on left

swap with atsuko

[cosmic parrot]

good enough

[rare arch]

works

[cosmic parrot]

swap atsuko with imari if atsuko doesnt heal bairi

but just go clear

[autumn snow]

Thanks

[wooden pond]

Now try 74 next

[autumn snow]

60 is enough for me
Because of Material of crafting choiced gift

[river axle]

So close...

Do I need to upgrade I.Mine EX to lv5 to clear F104?
Her EX is lv1

[pseudo grove]

at ex1 you are probably doing more harm than good

and I'm willing to guess you use it to cancel a visual maker here and there

or I just really underestimate how difficult it can get without bkaz

[river axle]

I don't really cancel B.Yoshimi basic with I.Mine EX
Probably I'm just having skill issue

Maybe I'll find UE60 B.Yoshimi instead

[flint prawn]

High effort f109

[river axle]

[full drift]

Hmm idk if i can do more without bkazoos

Damn dako drained my balls

[pseudo grove]

reject modernity

[flint prawn]

at least it required 0 building

[hazy dawn]

the suffering is over

floor 74 clear with d.hina DPS

[spark epoch]

What a useless S. Seia…

Well, at least she can heal.

[hazy dawn]

floor 99

[rough ruin]

This gonna take long to fix all

[rough ruin]

Yep

[languid oriole]

damn bro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1223174816337760287.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=iKneel&lossless=true

[mild shuttle]

Playing 106+ w/o Shizuko or Chihiro is kind of a pain, Suzumi and Yoshimi tend to retreat on lightning pillars at 3rd ATG square

Had to improvise something like healing to the full with Reisa, applying Kaede, then after shields run out wait until Reisa heal tick, then immediately apply new Reisa

That's the only thing that managed to pull me through

[full drift]

+1 report

[mild shuttle]

it's not about the reward 😭

[full drift]

Still funny

[rare arch]

It’s about sending a message

[sage fractal]

Yea, not being able to bring Atk Down means you need precise heal ticks to get through some attacks in ATG3

[cosmic parrot]

hey dhar mann fam

[rare arch]

I think not

[normal holly]

did f70 without shoshino
doing f74 later

[hazy dawn]

using d.hina as EX skill dps in the raid where EX skill damage is reduced was painful

but not as painful as babysitting d.aru

[uneven temple]

Floor 80

[tall willow]

f107 f2p

[split kiln]

rawr

[rough ruin]

Welp, it went well [F60] (smh better than my last one with f57)

[wooden pond]

What's the highest floor for non UE Suzumi B.Kazusa to survive

[tall willow]

I'm using 4*, M7x7 bnatsu so idk, they die on f109 with that

With ue40 bnatsu they should survive higher floors

[steep meadow]

Hmmmmm

Thanks might try that

[hearty thicket]

i could replace someone here for more dps outputs im honestly filling up most of the team for cost efficiency

i did beat f62 with this, wondering if i missed out on something else

[tall willow]

Where's your byoshimi borrow

[hearty thicket]

i have shoshino as a borrow

is she not good for this one

[tall willow]

b yoshimi is the main dps

[hearty thicket]

hm

[tall willow]

Borrow her

[rough ruin]

Maybe tomorrow I'll try f64

[hearty thicket]

ill try an attempt at it

im js worried it wont do well because of no red buffing

but who am i to judge without trying

[rough ruin]

The dmg output of byoshimi will likely better than with dhina + hina + soshi buff

[hearty thicket]

bruh

the only byosh borrow i have has MM48 on the skills

[tall willow]

What ue

[hearty thicket]

ehhh ill let it rip

[rough ruin]

UE?

[hearty thicket]

ue30

[tall willow]

Ehh look for better friends on arona.icu or #1108594770332373143

[hearty thicket]

aight

[tall willow]

But you could still do it with ue30 b yoshimi

[tall willow]

@spark epoch my team survives f109 with ue30 bnatsu... Tempted to pull wakamo for eligma to upgrade bkazusa...

[steep meadow]

Idk if my koharu can survive for f60
But idk what should i change her to

Can Atsuko work?

[tall willow]

Do you have hanako?

[steep meadow]

Yes but i haven't done anything to her

[steep meadow]

I ask this just for a change for koharu

Cause i don't think she'll survive

[rough ruin]

Yeah, babysitting both imari and koharu will be kinda hard

I have to let koharu go to helicopter in about 2:30

[rough ruin]

Yeah, she can maybe even work better, but I'm not sure cause I don't have her

[tall willow]

Just give it a try, as long as your team survives, a good byoshimi borrow should wipe f60 easily

[steep meadow]

I'm using ue40

Is that enough?

[tall willow]

Yes

[steep meadow]

I don't have someone in my fl that have it higher

[rough ruin]

(Also you can change Imari to kokona too if you don't want baby sitting, but that will a loss of reduce cost)

[tall willow]

I'm assuming you're buffing her

[steep meadow]

Yea i know about that

[tall willow]

Use arona.icu to find friends, or #1108594770332373143

[steep meadow]

Yea

[tall willow]

Do you have resources to build hanako a bit

[steep meadow]

Uhhh no

[tall willow]

What's your team? (With atsuko)

[steep meadow]

Basically what Chan use

Change koharu for Atsuko and change i.mari for kokona

[tall willow]

That should work

[steep meadow]

Basically this
I might also change like kotama for ritsu

[hearty thicket]

its pretty gud

[steep meadow]

[tall willow]

Why kotama

[steep meadow]

Wuh?
So i use kotama instead of ritsu?

[tall willow]

No I mean why not replace s shizuko by ritsu

[steep meadow]

Ohhhh

[rough ruin]

Yeah, you have lots of choice if compare to me

[steep meadow]

Guess that'll work

Have to try later first

Thanks

[rough ruin]

Like I need sshizuko cause buff atk sub and ex create sheild to babysit imari and koharu, but that won't be your case if you use kokona x atsuko instead and then you can focus on using a student buffer like ritsu instead

[tall willow]

Yeah kokona way better than imari here

[steep meadow]

[spark epoch]

I borrowed a 3-star B. Kazusa and gave it another try.
It turns out to be enough for a clear:

[tall willow]

How much is your shosh doing?

[spark epoch]

Damage graph, if you’re interested:

[tall willow]

What gear does your bkaz borrow have?

Cause mine is like 2/10/x

And she does way less than that

Also my ue30 shosh does a couple mill less iirc

[tall willow]

Hmmmm

I'll give it a try, but I'm pessimistic about it

I'll try to upgrade her gloves

Thanks for trying it

Oh also, her skills are M444

[spark epoch]

You’re welcome.
If you have a watch shortage, even her glove gives a lot more DPS.

[tall willow]

Should I go for crit first?

[versed talon]

god got hands 😭

[spark epoch]

AA crit malding isn’t that good for your time.
We don’t run D. Ako now so there aren’t those free 1~2M for one more crit any more.
If you do have enough time, it is probably more efficient and more productive to think and look for opportunities to improve the rotation to milk more damage, instead of malding crits from AA DPS with exactly the same rotation over and over again.
And if you have some spare gears, upgrade B. Kazusa’s gears first.
Also her skills if you have spare Trinity mats.
Make her M777 if you don’t want to spend too much.

[tall willow]

Im hoping my rot is good enough

Should be doable

But gear looks cooked (2/10/1)

Ty, I'll try to get her to M777 and 7/10/7

[versed talon]

if I dont have resources to build kaede or nagisa and my only other shielder is s.shizuko what kind of team could I try for 106 (I also dont have s.nagisa, atsuko or b.natsu)

[languid oriole]

how much did you cancel byoshimi basic

[somber rampart]

Can I ask what are the recommended units to bring for this final restriction

[golden smelt]

Byoshimi bkazusa bnatsu snonomi dako mreisa msuzumi atsuko dhina shosh skikyou dmichiru kokona iwak chihiro nyizumi oshigure etc

Read the pinned guide for mechanic pls

[versed talon]

I try to not cancel it at all

[golden smelt]

Looks quite rough for 106 sshizuko shield isn't that thick

Her other problem is that you want to shield msuzumi byoshimi and bkaz at the minimum and with only 4 targets you can't get all of them

And they might walk into lightning range after you repos

That aside use chihiro instead of kotama for better atk shred

Kok dmichi is questionable too 4 healers means you have less buffs but maybe you can get away with it at 106

[steep meadow]

Good enough idc

F60

[celest spindle]

self cook f106

[rough ruin]

Was thinking about Kaede but think again sshizuko still better with her bas + don't rlly need to keep all student alive till endgame

[cedar elm]

S shizukos shield is very thin and barely protects anything and plus it only covers 4 students

Kaede is a lot more useful than s shizuko in set

[rough ruin]

Too bad in my case it not rlly

[cedar elm]

Cuz your floor is probably too low to worry about survivability

[rough ruin]

Eh I think like the more specifically question is "Is it worth it to sacrifies basic crit buff for keeping student alive"

Cause in my case even if I loss one student (which is koharu) but I can still manage too clear. Sure that Kaede will work better in keeping student alive but I dunno if keeping koharu alive till the endgame will worth it since she may not affect much about byoshimi output dmg beside her survival rate, and till that time Imari and Satsuko is enough to keep the one I needed (Dhina, BYoshimi, Snonomi) alive for dmg output on boss. And also, I don't think I need to keep many student alive with barrier since I have 3 healers to keep each alive already.

Anyways I'm not a good player like you so guess you have a point about Kaede still better in this case, or maybe just my unit goes wrong

[celest spindle]

yeah if you doing f99+ survival is more important than some tiny buff every +30s
there is a reason f110+ pps use Chihiro and bNatsu cus Atk debuff

[rough ruin]

Then in my case, is Sshizuko still reasonable for f50-74 or Kaede just better

[sage fractal]

Depends on who Kaede is keeping alive, and when the student is dying before you swap Kaede

My Suzumi Magic consistently dies at 1:18 in my F100 run, but I no longer need her past that. Swapping out Tsubaki Guide for Chihiro will keep her alive, but the tradeoff is I don't do enough dmg to win anymore

Like, if Koharu is dying to ATG spear, and she has done her job of keeping everyone else alive, and you don't need her anymore, then yea, Shizuko Swimsuit's CDmg buffs will benefit you more

It's situational, there's no single answer to this, everything depends on team comp and rotation

[rough ruin]

Understand now, I'll go with sshizuko then

[versed talon]

Yeah, alternatively I can use hanako instead of sshizuko, tho theres another issue, I think Im lacking damage without a crit dmg buffer

[regal rune]

Oh right MSuzumi and Kotama don’t stack so

What attack down am I bringing instead I wonder

[quiet jewel]

chihiro

[versed talon]

Chihiro is best!

[wooden pond]

Using 109 hw to clear 106 is so deadass 💀💀

109 requires buff retention from UE40 M.Suzu so nah

[quiet jewel]

just self cook it instead

oh wait u cleared

[cosmic parrot]

oh ye msuzumi is 50s with buff ret

[quiet jewel]

super easy to use with byosh

[split kiln]

you are losing 1.2s like that!

[quiet jewel]

nah u cast msuzumi after byosh ex finishes but before her basic damage goes off

its just ez 100% uptime

[versed talon]

[split kiln]

ok but think about other unit AA!

[wooden pond]

Actually it's mostly because 4* M.Suzu can't fcking tank the 2nd thunder strike

This was just only 108

Hmm but maybe i could try using M.Reisa sooner or something

[regal rune]

Alright lvl 65 Chihiro it is then

[obsidian cave]

I can't do 70 smh my students keep dying

[tall willow]

f109 f2p @spark epoch

i got kazusa M7M4 and 10/10/10 gears

tempted to pull for ligma and get bnats and bkaz to ue40 to try f112

[tall willow]

ehh ue30 bkaz works for the skikyou comp for f112, with ue40 bnatsu

[split kiln]

Do you even need ue bkaz

Beside for dmg

[tall willow]

its for dmg

[split kiln]

I see

[tall willow]

but i feel kinda guilty about the idea of pulling for eligma just to do f112

i need at least 1000 eligma and probably 1600

and thats over 300 pulls

[regal rune]

f100 done

[sage fractal]

Bro legit just let Ako Dress be debuffed lmao

[versed talon]

kazusa died so hard her hp bugged

[versed talon]

the lighting storm attack right before ATG kills everyone

Im thinking in bringing chihiro instead of michiru, how painful is it not having the extra cost?

nvm the cost lost is insane

[rare arch]

Schrödinger’s cat

[versed talon]

is there anything I could to with my team?

[rare arch]

Maybe snagi over ako?

[versed talon]

I dont have snagi

I missed last fest as I was taking a break from the game 😭

[rare arch]

Unfortunate

[versed talon]

I came back to magical girls

even so.. I dont see how nagi would help with my team not dying

[rare arch]

Is it possible for you to record a run?

[versed talon]

yeah I can

give me a minute

[versed talon]

https://youtu.be/e2wVUntJx_s

[languid oriole]

cat have 9 lives anyway

[rare arch]

The video is private

[versed talon]

oh oops

try now

[regal rune]

For a time. I let the second pillar take lightning next times around

[regal rune]

Possible to use Kaede at all?

[versed talon]

unfortunately I have her lv 1

[rare arch]

I see a few issues
Most glaring is the fact that you didn’t use byoshimi ex at all

[versed talon]

eh?

[rare arch]

Used it late

[regal rune]

Also my bad I only did f100 so

Yeah

[rare arch]

After the first red orb

Also the orb didn’t cover your bkazoo and d hina

[versed talon]

I use it roughly every 50 seconds am I suppossed to use it more often?

[rare arch]

Oh I forgot

Yeah you don’t need to use it often

[versed talon]

the dhina mistake was to buff her basic as she was using it tho its probably better to hit all my units

[rare arch]

Id recommend you try to pop the red orb over bkazoo and d hina since they do good aa dps

[versed talon]

alr

[cosmic parrot]

u lack menu-ing

gotta check the menu for whichever buffs are expiring

instead of instinct

its a full aa raid so buff uptimes are like 10x more important

[versed talon]

its not so bad when the buffs all last a good amount

[cosmic parrot]

buffs are never long enough

[versed talon]

I try to use buffs roughly as they expire, 50 secs for byoshimi, shoshino, and msuzumi

[cosmic parrot]

also just use kaede instead

of hanako

[versed talon]

.

[cosmic parrot]

well u gotta save cost harder too

during atg3

[regal rune]

Kaede would really help if you could rush her at some point cause

A shield on top of healing is a good way to help everyone survive

In my case I had to use Kaede and Hanako to survive lightning storm and ATG.

[versed talon]

I entered the first attack on atg 3 at 19 cost, still got beaten lol

[cosmic parrot]

u cant overheal but shields are an immediate type of overheal

[versed talon]

I tried using sshizuko but uhhhh

[regal rune]

It gives you more breathing room to time a Hanako heal

[quiet jewel]

just use chihiro or shiz for atk down on basic

[cosmic parrot]

ur hanako doesnt seem to outheal lightning too

[quiet jewel]

and just never click them

[regal rune]

That could also work, an attack down prolly is better atp

[versed talon]

wouldnt I lack damage then?

[quiet jewel]

is hanako providing damage

[versed talon]

oh you meant replace hanako for atk down?

[rare arch]

Yeah

[cosmic parrot]

whos ur 4 specials

[versed talon]

I thought you meant add an atk down on top of reisa hanako

[cosmic parrot]

no dako is sad

[rare arch]

Dmich mreisa hanako ako

[versed talon]

using dmichiru, ako, hanako mreisa

[cosmic parrot]

u can use bikeroko instead but its more baldshino

[rare arch]

Kaede would help

Or an atk down like chihiro

[versed talon]

I do have her, should I use that instead of bkazusa and run chihiro instead of ako?

[cosmic parrot]

no u dont have enough slots for 2 atk downs

again just use kaede instead of hanako

should solve 104 survival problems at least

dont have any cheaper solution

[versed talon]

.

[cosmic parrot]

.

[versed talon]

hm

[cosmic parrot]

no dako skikyou

gotta do smth else

[versed talon]

...I said I do have dako 😭

[cosmic parrot]

lvl 1 too?

[versed talon]

no she is actually built

4* I believe

eh no wait 3* I just checked

[cosmic parrot]

i tried dropping kokona for her

still works

[rare arch]

You still have dmich for pillars if that’s something

[versed talon]

maybe that works, dmichi can do pillars before atg 3 just fine

Imma try that

[cosmic parrot]

and drop ako for like chihiro

[versed talon]

swap kokona for d.ako and ako for chihiro

yeah

[versed talon]

oh thats funny, because my chihiro isnt high level like my ako, my kazusa lacks special student stats and dies at the start of atg3

[rare arch]

chihiro just needs her basic

[versed talon]

yeah I know that

[rare arch]

i dunno how much hp loss that is due to chihiro

[versed talon]

but she doesnt give as much hp as ako did so kazusa explodes on the first attack in atg3

[rare arch]

but specials only give 5% hp and atk stat in frr

[versed talon]

ok with chihiro specials give 6560 hp, with ako 7884

hp difference is crazy lol

I can give her t9 watch for 612 more hp

(kazusa I mean)

[spark epoch]

Good job! Congrats~

[tall willow]

ty, how far do you think my comp can go with maxed students?

or is kokona required at some point?

[spark epoch]

F110 has 5 more level penalty.
So F109 -> F110 is way more than +6.5M HP.
Whether you need Kokona depends on what team you are running.
Even at F112, there is a lot of flexibility in terms of team building (if you have the units).

[tall willow]

im pretty sure im obliterating f112 if i get ue40 bkaz and bnatsu with my comp

maybe im being overly optimistic tho

there are ue30 bkaz (and ue50 byosh) clears with the skikyou comp

but i think even ue40 bnatsu might not be enough from some point onward (not that i intend to clear those floors, just asking out of curiosity) if using my current comp

or even ue60 bkaz, ue60 bnatsu for that matter

[spark epoch]

If your M. Reisa is UE40+, then B. Natsu can even be non-UE for F112-ish if you bring D. Michiru.

[tall willow]

hmmm

there's this comp for 120 even, can dhina replace snonomi?

[tall willow]

maybe i should build dmich.... i assume i remove sshiroko

[spark epoch]

S. Kikyou instead of S. Nagisa is more DPS to your B. Kazusa and D. Hina.
S. Nagisa can only buff one girl, so your B. Kazusa isn’t really sufficiently buffed.
Here is my damage graph on F113 with a UE50 B. Kazusa:

[tall willow]

you're right, but it's way less crit dmg too for byosh, right? i assume it's still beneficial overall

and what about dhina vs snonomi? is there such a big diff?

[spark epoch]

D. Michiru gives comfier obelisk healing at the cost of less damage.
I was tired of having a run ruined due to unhealed obelisk so I switched to D. Michiru, but we should be able to handle this with a better planned rotation.

[tall willow]

i have s kikyou but shes not built, same with dmich

[quiet jewel]

snonom's basic grants atkspd to byosh; i wouldn't be surprised if it results in +1 or even +2 visual makers over the course of the fight

[tall willow]

bruh

[spark epoch]

S. Nonomi’s basic skill provides an AOE attack speed buff.
And more ergonomic to pop the red orb.
But still D. Hina team is doable if you have S. Kikyou.

[quiet jewel]

and naturally her aa is better after you use her EX to pop orb

[tall willow]

cant i rawdog with snagi and dhina if ue40 bkaz and ue40 bnats?

i cant believe they wont kill f112

[spark epoch]

They are good units. S. Kikyou pretty decent buffer. D. Michiru probably more versatile.
But it also depends on your mats budget.

[tall willow]

do they need gear (other than dmihc healing)

because im thinking

maybe i could just build dmich and s kikyou a bit

and ue40 bkaz, leave bnatsu at ue30

then attempt f112

but regardless, i hope this team with ue40 bkaz and ue40 bnatsu can do f112

ehh maybe not

i think bkaz will only do like 30% extra damage at ue40 if my half assed calculations with schaledb are right

she did 20 M on f109, so thats 6 million extra only, and i need 20 (plus the 5 level gap right?)

oh no, with enhanced it should be 96% more i think?

then yeah id be close

[quiet jewel]

u need roughly 17.5% more damage going from f109 to f112

just in terms of health pool + dmg reduction modifier

[tall willow]

thats like 31.5 M, right?

[tall willow]

if this is right, then its 19.2 M extra with bkaz, and 3.3 seconds left, so id be close maybe...

[quiet jewel]

f109 is ~201m eHP, f112 is ~236m eHP

[tall willow]

e = effective?

[quiet jewel]

yea

[tall willow]

hmmm so its 35 M instead... maybe its a long shot

[quiet jewel]

skikyou is preferred over snagi specifically because everyone else does so much damage

[tall willow]

yeah

[quiet jewel]

even shosh damage is relevant

[tall willow]

i think its within crit mald territory for ue40 bkaz and bnats with snagi

like, kanon had like 22 seconds left on f109 (using my comp) without an optimal rotation iirc, with ue50 bkaz

[tall willow]

even a sussy skikyou like M777?

and 4*

[cosmic parrot]

yes

theres bkazoos dhina to give buffs

[tall willow]

and no gear

[quiet jewel]

...

[spark epoch]

Well, I gave it a try… and failed.
But of course this is an improvised rotation and not that optimised.

[tall willow]

thanks for trying

[spark epoch]

Damage graph:

[tall willow]

i think my rotation is quite optimized for that comp

[tall willow]

but yeah its more or less the HP left i predicted here

around 13-16 effective, so 15-18.8 real

[spark epoch]

Compare this (also F112).
You can see the difference in B. Kazusa, D. Hina/S. Nonomi, and even S. Hoshino due to the lack of S. Kikyou.

[tall willow]

the big difference is snonomi doing more with kikyou it seems

because snagi + byoshimi + bkaz does the same as skikyou + byosh + bkaz

[spark epoch]

And 7 less seconds. That’s And D. Michiru instead of S. Shiroko.

[tall willow]

well and shosh tbh

[tall willow]

why use dmich tho? you could keep the team alive with bnatsu here

[spark epoch]

#💬gameplay-discussion message

[tall willow]

i dont get it, how does dmich prevent the debuff?

by healing the obelisk faster?

[spark epoch]

To rescue the obelisk.
I failed to heal the obelisk in time two runs in a row so I decided to bring D. Michiru instead.
I have enough damage anyway.

[tall willow]

How does msuzumi survive without healing the obelisk?

[spark epoch]

Okay.
As long as you don’t slack the heals too much.

[tall willow]

Oh okay I think my rot is optimized for the case where bnatsu can heal the obelisk, so I do minimal healing

Or maybe ue40 bnatsu would keep her alive even with my rot

[tall willow]

between sub and basic, which one is more important for s kikyou? @spark epoch

[foggy wasp]

slacc f10

[spark epoch]

Mostly equivalent, but marginally sub-skill first.

[rough ruin]

F64 (Gonna stop here like before with yellow chokmah )

[tall willow]

im gonna try to improvise a rotation with her, to see if i can improve my f109 clear time

ehhhhh

i feel like my cost recovery has worsened??

[languid oriole]

who did you swap off for kikyu

[tall willow]

snagi

[languid oriole]

strange

[tall willow]

i cant do the same rot anymore

i dont have enough cost

[spark epoch]

Rotation will be different.
And you can probably do F110.

[tall willow]

not without dmich, msuzumi dies

[tall willow]

ehhh i cant really do the rotation, i tried to copy one with snonomi instead but it doesnt rly work with dhina

well whatever, i'll just go touch grass

[spark epoch]

Just FYI, F112 is clearable with D. Hina:

[tall willow]

i had issues with my bnatsu (ue30)

couldnt heal obelisk

[spark epoch]

D. Michiru the rest or just let it be and heal back later before the whole team are debuffed.

[tall willow]

i cant raise dmich, tried healing later but not enough dmg

prob need a better rot

thanks for your experiments kanon

at least now i know that ue40 bnatsu + ue40 bkaz should do 112

[spark epoch]

[tall willow]

maybe im paranoid, but is it possible that i have less cost recovery with s kikyou as opposed to snagi?

there's no cost recovery in snagi's skillset, but i couldnt reach certain costs with s kikyou

[spark epoch]

S. Kikyou is one cost more expensive, though.

[tall willow]

oh i thought they wer eboth 3?

oh no ur right

[spark epoch]

S. Kikyou is 4 cost.

[tall willow]

s kikyou is 4

thanks, now it makes sense

yeah i was getting 3 at the start due to reduction and i got confused

[eager charm]

@tall willow hear me out
Gold is temporary
High floor glory is forever

Skip boat

Do 112

[rare arch]

Make a legendary clear

Do f99 yellow tiphareth with uneru

[tall willow]

i need to pull wakamo to do 112

[eager charm]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[tall willow]

if you sponsor me 1.5 sparks ill do it

[rare arch]

You should totally do f99 yellow tiphareth with uneru

[cosmic parrot]

i wish now my uneru is built

but no yellow tiph in sight

[wooden pond]

Yellow Tiph should be the next one in line in JP no ?

Unless there's a new FRR next month

I'm looking at you debuff cleansing

[pseudo grove]

yellow tiph...

don't tell them....

[rare arch]

Red set

[pseudo grove]

I still think, without a shred of irony, that mika should be given bond gear with EX skill cast range (new stat)

[rare arch]

I wonder if they’ll ever do that

But I still won’t roll for Mika

[wooden pond]

She'll get her bond gear when Luna Chesed comes

[pseudo grove]

she doesn't need bg for chesed but does need it for tiph

chesed lunatic will simply have 100 eva or less

if not, it will be a fuckup

like, the simplest way to fix chesed is to eliminate ALL rng from the core
no eva, max critstab and so on

leave the rng fuckness to the mobs

[wooden pond]

Last minute fumble is crazy

[spark epoch]

Damn… Suzumi died again…

[quiet jewel]

well at least she survived the vortex skill

might have to play with chihiro timing so that

1. her atk down is delayed long enough so that enough ticks of the vortex skill are reduced in dmg so msuzumi survives that
2. her atk down is delayed not too long so that it is active soon enough for the lightning so msuzumi survives that too

and if it's not possible to do both then

[split kiln]

that's double atk down already tho...

[quiet jewel]

yea it likely applied partway thru the lighting attack, but too late to save msuzumi

oh nvm chihiro's basic is actually quite long

if it was active thruout the entire attack then yea it's cooked

but this attack usually isn't the one killing msuzumi, so it's probably just a heal timing issue

[sage fractal]

This is the attack that guaranteed kills Suzumi Magic for me

It's the highest dmg attack from Set btw, 470%

[quiet jewel]

it takes time tho

so ur healing thru it

[sage fractal]

Nah this one is so fast

Compared to Bursting Radiance

[quiet jewel]

tru

[split kiln]

that attack killed my 3* skikyou on 113...

[sage fractal]

Like, I have to time 3 heal ticks in between this attack to not die

[split kiln]

I didn't notice my hp was this low on 112

Missed like 20s of skikyou basic due to this

no idea how to fix it either beside ligma whel zzzzz

[quiet jewel]

this is the current bottleneck for f121 tho

1 hit for 230% means msuzumi just needs to straight up have enough hp to tank it

and chihiro is never active for this attack

even with lb25 hp, ue60, b50 everyone (including alts), msuzumi doesn't have enough hp to tank it on f121

[sage fractal]

Ah yea, this one happens around 2:00 when there's no Atk Down active

[cosmic parrot]

lmao

[verbal summit]

F99 what to fill or swap to survive ? Do i need Aspd buffer on F99 ?

I can only deal 40m in 2minute

[sage fractal]

Well, can you even survive all the way to the end with 1 Atk Down + 1 healer? If not, bring a second healer

Also, I would rather bring Kotama than Minori

[eager charm]

@robust fjord

Can you delete this

[robust fjord]

u got it vro

[golden smelt]

Now that I think of it does the timing work with shizuko

Smaller atk debuff but more uptime

[quiet jewel]

could work, but i'd assume someone has tested it

and u just die later on prolly

[wooden pond]

F109 with B.Kazu, M.Suzu and Nagisa all 4*

[tropic wadi]

f85

[somber rampart]

Alr thanks

[young turret]

what is this shit that oneshots half my team on 2 bars of set''s atg, can i avoid it somehow

[golden smelt]

Most of his stuff one shots your team on atg2-3

Just cope and heal/shield/atk debuff through it

[sage fractal]

Welcome to Set gameplay

That's pretty much the entirety of this raid

Buff micromanagement and surviving nukes

[wooden pond]

Set has a 80% dmg increase buff at 2/3 ATG so either shield or shield + dmg reduction otherwise it will just nuke everyone that's not a tank

[sage fractal]

Not necessarily, you can time AoE heal ticks to happen mid-attack

That also keeps your students alive

[wooden pond]

Oh yeah Hanako works pretty well with that i remember

[pseudo grove]

thunder roar

simply have enough ehp🙂

[young turret]

[half zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1501111512142446622/red_fury_of_set.mp4?ex=69fae289&is=69f99109&hm=be7eea5192bd7b3730333d5355aa3137823ef85d889010c22c5f54a81b4bddc7&

99

[rough ruin]

F65

(wonder how far I can go with this team )

[fleet kindle]

F100

[sage fractal]

F99 no Yoshimi Band/Kazusa Band clear

[pseudo grove]

ok 100 bandless would go hard

nonomi hoshino dako terror/siori suzumi kok
msreisa chihiro fish hammock
could clear?

forgot about the angel of cope, ritsu

maybe shizuko instead of chihiro, or just kaede

[uneven summit]

Btw what tl did u use?

Is it same as f106 tl?

[wooden pond]

I used bilibili tl

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1C2viB8EMg/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=138667128858cb5f45acdea9730b8162

[spark epoch]

You can do it with more than one minute remaining if you allow B. Airi.
Still very doable without B. Airi.

[versed talon]

suzumi got killed so hard her hp went possitive

[flint prawn]

Can you do with yoshimi, but no nezo?

[sage fractal]

Already did for F100 a week ago?

You missed this

[flint prawn]

Guide Tsubaki
Interesting

[wild helm]

Floor 60 doable

[rare arch]

Ui and suzumi

[wild helm]

Just fillers

[languid oriole]

i kneel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345130886986858537.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=hyprkneel&lossless=true

[sage fractal]

The power of Hoshino Swimsuit

[wild helm]

Yeah it enables me A LOT

7 floors

[sage fractal]

Yea you can even do F100 without bands with Hoshino Swimsuit, but it is ofc much harder

One of the core req for F99/F100 is having at least one of Yoshimi Band/Kazusa Band or Hoshino Swimsuit

[wild helm]

not the prettiest run tbh, students got debuffed twice before ends

not invested oshig cant heal tower in time

[sage fractal]

This is why you bring ST healer

[surreal cove]

For (next FRR's) Chokmah, does it matter if your DOTs deal a lot of damage or do you just need them constantly ticking down?

And to confirm, EXes like Chise's don't count for reactor gauge, right?

[rare arch]

You need both at f75 onwards

[rare arch]

That’s correct

[surreal cove]

How about if I'm just aiming for F50 since I'm only at lvl75

[rare arch]

Then just the dot dps matters

[surreal cove]

Would a 3/7/7/7 Chise and x/4/x/x Saya be enough for that?

[rare arch]

Lol no

Not even close

You should be borrowing saori swimsuit for that

[surreal cove]

Sounds good to me

[rare arch]

Solves your dot dps and burst dps at f50

[surreal cove]

Sweet, thanks for advice

[rare arch]

[spark epoch]

Damn…

[pseudo grove]

suzumi = cbt

[spark epoch]

F114 cleared.
Thank you @lunar elk for your S. Nonomi.

[surreal cove]

I'm looking through FRR documents and I noticed that AHoshino doesn't seem to be counted as a self-reposition tank for Tipareth, is there a particular reason why this is?

Oh, armor type NVM

[lunar elk]

glad she's still been helping out

[young badge]

Can't do enough damage to win on level 74, am I missing something obvious in my line up?

[rare arch]

You’re not borrowing byoshimi

[young badge]

Why would I? I must be missing something...

[rare arch]

She’s the best dps for red set

There’s nobody that comes even close to matching her damage output

[young badge]

Casting the EX on herself?

[rare arch]

You’re borrowing d ako

You should be borrowing band Yoshimi

[young badge]

But she was pretty meh when I borrowed her for the lower floors

[rare arch]

Are you sure you borrowed a good one?

[young badge]

Yeah, UE40 5MMM T10 gear

I'll try her again regardless

[rare arch]

That’s kinda ass

But it might work on f74 I think

[young badge]

The only one I have access to

[rare arch]

Are you able to find a better byoshimi

[young badge]

If I could, I wouldn't have said she was the only one I have haha

[rare arch]

Just try with that borrow byoshimi you have

[young badge]

Nah, still not even remotely enough damage

290 bars left after the full 4:30

[sage fractal]

Tf is 290 bars

Pls use the actual HP value

[young badge]

Bars of health

[sage fractal]

Useless info

Cos I dunno how much is 1 bar on f74

[young badge]

Nor do I

I just know Set starts at 600

[sage fractal]

Cool, so we don't know how much leftover

[young badge]

So I did approx 50%

[sage fractal]

But also, I can roughly guess what went wrong based on your prev image

Why is Hoshino Swimsuit on pos 6?

[young badge]

They're all clumped together anyway thanks to S.Eimi's shield

[sage fractal]

Her being there means:

• Whoever is in pos 1/2 probably doesn't get buffed by her
• She does a lot of dmg by herself, and her being there means she gets debuffed unless you repo

[sage fractal]

Ok so that's the problem, you are overwriting Suzumi Magic's Atk buffs with Eimi Swimsuit's much weaker Atk buffs

Also, are you playing raid mechanics correctly

Or are you letting your students eat 70% dmg dealt debuff

[pseudo grove]

they can only use amy once and the team will stay clumped together forever

[young badge]

Suzumi buffs ATK and S.Eimi buffs Atk Spd?

[pseudo grove]

ex3+ buffs atk

[sage fractal]

Eimi Swimsuit's EX has Atk buffs that can overwrite Suzumi Magic's EX. But if you're using it once then nvm, no issue

[pseudo grove]

meh I looked at the actual image

obviously the issue is the ako borrow

[sage fractal]

Also, your DPS are all not that great, pls borrow a Yoshimi Band instead

[pseudo grove]

borrow taiga aisaka

no contest

[young badge]

Hmm.. fair point, thats my mistake with S.Eimi, I was thinking about her attack speed

[sage fractal]

But they said they failed with UE40 Yoshimi Band borrow, so...

[young badge]

My most recent run was with a Band Yoshimi

[sage fractal]

Also, spamming Eimi Swimsuit means you move them a lot means you interrupt the students' attacks a lot

[young badge]

Honestly only used her in the big attack from set

[sage fractal]

Then there's other things to pay attention to:

• are your buff uptimes good? Are you going through periods without buffs?
• are you cancelling students' Basic skills with Eimi Swimsuit's repositioning?

[young badge]

Okay, moving B.Yoshimi into P2, and S.Hoshino into P5

Dropping S.Eimi, but I don't know who to replace her with

[pseudo grove]

move suzumi to p5

[sage fractal]

Which big attack? I assume ATG spear, but that means

• the students are not clumped together for the first 3.5 mins
• Hoshino Swimsuit buffs are not reaching Pos 1/2
• Hoshino Swimsuit is perma debuffed

[pseudo grove]

p5 and p6 are the dead spots

put kok and suzumi in there

get snagisa or something instead of eimi

just make sure byosh is constantly buffed

cast her every 55s

[sage fractal]

Nagisa Swimsuit will do, let her buff Yoshimi Band

[pseudo grove]

don't overthinkit

[sage fractal]

Also, I hope you are popping the Red Orb with Hina Dress at the right times?

[young badge]

Bold of you to assume I am capable of overthinking it haha

[sage fractal]

Cos that's dmg loss if you don't

[pseudo grove]

you definitely are if you somehow ended up with borrowing dako over byosh

[young badge]

I'm popping it, but with S.Shiroko instead

[sage fractal]

Ok sure, that works

[young badge]

I was very limited in red attack and blue armour

[rare arch]

If iwak can pop the orb in one hit then sure

[sage fractal]

And Yoshimi Band will do like, 50-60m dmg herself

[pseudo grove]

that dako has nobody to buff

ue1 terror is only there to proc kokona stamps

0 damage

3* hina is only there to pop the ball

0 damage

[sage fractal]

Nah, they probably contribute like, 10-20m dmg or so

Which is nowhere near enough for F74

[young badge]

I was hoping she'd self buff tbh

[sage fractal]

And she does like, 20-25m max

[young badge]

Better?

[pseudo grove]

yes this will clear

[young badge]

Can't get the damn rhythm correct now

Nah, it's not looking good

Still 31million HP left

Ahh well, thats enough thinking above my station for one night, I managed to get past floor 49, thats a record for me at least

Thanks anyway guys

[versed talon]

Im starting to believe this isnt possible

I got no snagisa and the damage Im doing is less than ideal...

ignore yoshimi taking pillar attack, I accidentally moved her with reisa at the end

[versed talon]

I also got low level kaede so my only choice to survive atg 3 is with chihiro 😭

[flint prawn]

3 healers and chihiro

[versed talon]

and Im still barely surviving 😭

[versed talon]

is this good pace?

[spark epoch]

F115 cleared.

[pine fulcrum]

my first f67 clear in any frr...

most of the time, i only clear up to f60 for the keystones, but i wanna push further this time...

[rare arch]

Do f74

[pine fulcrum]

[rare arch]

Himari and kotama together

Also why not borrow byoshimi

[pine fulcrum]

people in my club and friendlist doesn't put her up...

[rare arch]

Find people who do

[pine fulcrum]

i actually switched some students around and tried f70, but the game crashed and i decided to just take a break... (it was at midnight)

[pine fulcrum]

i'm too lazy to do that...

[versed talon]

What would be a good pace for this

[jovial merlin]

#🗼final-restriction-release

oh my brain placed an l between the "p" and "a" from "pace" for some reason

[jovial merlin]

yesn't

[stone walrus]

kokonalet, no other bands, just magicals

[cosmic parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[full drift]

What site do people use to check data in teams used for frr?

[pseudo grove]

there's no data

your best bet is souriki

[full drift]

Yeah i tried that

Guess its not possible or ultra whale

[pseudo grove]

look in older seasons for suzumilet

and don't use their tool; scan thumbnails manually

or ctrlf kazusanashi

[full drift]

Looking older seasons worked, guess they go up to 104 without those.

Can mreisa replace oshig

[sage fractal]

Rot is completely different if the rot depends on Shigure HS's Basic

Cos with Shigure HS you can skip the first minute of healing

[full drift]

Ok I will test around when I can get to it.

I did spook snonomi 3 times so that might not be too expensive to raise in case

Also got ritsu, any good here?

[sage fractal]

Maybe? I dunno? If you're using Kazusa Band + Nonomi Swimsuit, I wonder if Ritsu will even be useful

Cos Yoshimi will already have Atk Spd buffs from herself, Kazusa and Nonomi

[full drift]

I dont have kazoos

[sage fractal]

I mean...feel free to try

I legit dunno if she would be useful

[versed talon]

wow... despite managing to survive until the end this time, Im simply missing too much damage

</3

[spark epoch]

F116 cleared!
With UE40 B. Natsu and M. Reisa!
Thanks God Suzumi survived.

[tropic wadi]

[onyx sphinx]

does bkazusa ever get really low?

[wooden pond]

No

The only one dying all the time is just Suzumi

[onyx sphinx]

does she have t10 pin?

[wooden pond]

B.Kazu yes

[onyx sphinx]

id need to build kaede for this

i just do f106 and call it but im low on gear rn 🫠

ty anyways

[wooden pond]

I maxed my Kaede back in Yesod so she's pretty good now

[onyx sphinx]

yeah i shouldve built her for tiph but i chose to suffer with tyuuka

i was fine for yesod without her but tiph was a pain

[valid compass]

SO PROUD AAAAAAAAAAAA

[full drift]

ssg NA

Eh, f99 is enough

[feral vigil]

[full drift]

bruh

I forgot to set it in checks notes unlimited showdown

ssg NA filled with tsundere lovers

[exotic iris]

what app is that

[wooden pond]

Arona.icu

[exotic iris]

thank you

[sturdy nacelle]

Does anyone have UE60 B Yoshimi? Would like to borrow for f100
(in global)

[pseudo grove]

ALAOCPCM

[sturdy nacelle]

Sent

Poggers, tysm

[sturdy nacelle]

My first f100 clear, yay :D
(btw if you're short on space - feel free to unfriend)

[timid thicket]

F106 clear

[hearty thicket]

"nice"

[high solstice]

my club apparently kicked the only person with a built b.yoshimi, is there someone with an open slot on NA?
AYVBTFAM auto is on

if so then thanks

[cobalt kite]

Wanted to flex a little... is this the right place 😭

[rare arch]

F100 yellow tiphareth clear

https://tenor.com/view/cac-gif-4842468385197483905

[cobalt kite]

Kotori bro... she's insane

[rare arch]

I kneel

[cobalt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/kotori-blue-archive-gif-24947904

[rare arch]

Yellow tiphareth fraud boss

[cobalt kite]

I thought yellow was easier than purple tho

[rare arch]

I prefer purple

[cobalt kite]

mika just gorillas

[rare arch]

I hate Mika

[cobalt kite]

I see...

https://tenor.com/view/misono-mika-mika-blue-archive-rage-stuck-gif-4054251882496876067

[rare arch]

I will clear f100 yellow tiphareth with uneru

[cobalt kite]

Is that even possible

[rare arch]

Someone cleared chesed torment with uneru

And f99

Clearly it’s skill issue

[cobalt kite]

Chesed wishes it could be as hard as tippy

its like that cooler guy meme

[rare arch]

Chesed is lame anyway

Someone clearing f99 with uneru was the reason why I was able to do the same

[cobalt kite]

I can see 99... but the jump from 99 tippy to 100 tippy is astronomical

its not even the same boss

[rare arch]

Absolutely

Definitely possible

[cobalt kite]

Ping me when you do it cause I wanna see it

[rare arch]

If I remember

[cobalt kite]

You will forever remember me as the guy who believes in you

[rare arch]

At least a few people believe in me

[spark epoch]

10M short.
I lost Kikyou from the spear.

[wooden pond]

124 is free

[cobalt kite]

I've seen people say niko "is not really useful so skip" before 😭

[wooden pond]

Never skip new Limited 💀

[full drift]

Never skip cute characters

[cosmic parrot]

u can decide how far of the meta u wanna chase

[cobalt kite]

I will chase the meta of Niko's big ears 🗣️ 🔥

(Also there's no way "remove 1 debuff + Aoe Ex buff" is not at least "pretty good" everywhere, I've seen people disregard her because "no torment raid actually uses 2 dps")

[wooden pond]

The humble "most Deca raids"

[cosmic parrot]

u sound way over that phase of "i heard others xyz"

[sage fractal]

I mean, they're not really wrong

[cosmic parrot]

ur pro enough to think for urself

[sage fractal]

Outside of Boat and Yesod, you really don't use 2 teams

[cosmic parrot]

and what content u wanna do

i dont recommend fully listening to pull guides at that phase too

[sage fractal]

Ye what kinda Tor player doesn't customize roll plan based on their roster, goals and needs

[cobalt kite]

I just find it funny. Also unfair to Niko

[cosmic parrot]

niko is super strong

qed

[sage fractal]

I mean, it doesn't matter, pull guides etc in gph is made for casuals

Casuals are never going to find usage for Niko

Anyone who thinks they need Niko does not need pull guides to tell them that

[cosmic parrot]

like 70% of students are in a similar situation

you gotta know the game and what u wanna do to know if you need them

theres no fine line between pull or skip

even the "skips" are a must pull if you aim for smth that needs them

[sage fractal]

Certified Michiru Dress moment

[cosmic parrot]

well i was thinking ckot for hod lun

but u can prolly still clear without

cus hod easy (lol

lemme think

[cobalt kite]

I mean there was that one video saying "you are pulling for the wrong meta". Its basically this

[cobalt kite]

But can you do it without malding

[cosmic parrot]

yes that describes ur situation quite well

[sage fractal]

You have to understand that 90% of people asking won't ever figure out what they need

[cosmic parrot]

prepare to graduate from pull guides

[cosmic parrot]

no lol

even im prolly ue40ing my ckot when it reruns

[sage fractal]

So when you see people in gph/gpd saying "nah you can skip", it is tailored towards people who wanna nobrain casul

If you can sit here and argue why you think Niko is not skippable, you are not the target audience of pull guides

[cobalt kite]

You mean I can read? omegalul

[cosmic parrot]

unironically

gacha readers cant read

less even plays the game

even a casual wont get hurt by skipping kisaki

they literally dont care

like the point of casuals pulling for meta is cus they wont get shitted on when they decide to play the game sometime in the future

not cus they care abt difficult content

thus the brainrot pull guides

[sage fractal]

You have no idea how many people get turned off the moment you tell them to run a 2nd team

They'd rather not play the raid at all

[cosmic parrot]

frr is actually beginner content confirmed?

[sage fractal]

Nah, 4:30 raid too long

Any raid more than 4 mins is also too long for casuls

[cosmic parrot]

• kaiten shit raid

so binah left

[cobalt kite]

That's me but not because I dont want to do it, but because I dont have enough to 2 team some raids

[sage fractal]

Nah some people literally can comfy 3 teams but they refuse because that's too much time needed

[cosmic parrot]

well ur prolly misisng the whole other half of the game

aka resource management

• farming

[cobalt kite]

It is until F74

[sage fractal]

Red Set F74 most definitely not beginner content

[cosmic parrot]

like i prolly spent 4 months worth of resources the past 3 days

[cobalt kite]

Nah I literally just dont have actual physical time and ap to farm everything

[cosmic parrot]

is the sweep button non existent

5min per day gains you more progress than any casual

[cobalt kite]

Im like super new 😭 compared to you dinos

[cosmic parrot]

no like literally just spam sweep button on events?

its that easy

literally nothing else to do to gain resources

[wooden pond]

I'm also moderately new

[cobalt kite]

Its not about having time to do stuff, but the actual ap 😩

[cosmic parrot]

huh?

we all wait for ap to regen

and claim cafe etc

no other way

buying ap

and just sweep it all on one stage

dude how much easier do you want it

[cobalt kite]

So... if you wanted to ue60 kayoko... you would need a certain amount of time and ap... So if you are older you have more of that

[sage fractal]

I am still not 1 year old Sensei btw

[cosmic parrot]

thats a weird goal

[cobalt kite]

It was an example....

[cosmic parrot]

my kayoko isnt ue50 yet lol

yea but

yes farmables are also necessary but im talking abt smth else

just sweep that damn ap

[cobalt kite]

Nah bro but that was my initial problem in the first place

[sage fractal]

I mean, when you say young

[cosmic parrot]

u can worry abt bluepritns and farmable nodes if you have extra time

[sage fractal]

How young? 6 months? If so that's normal

[cosmic parrot]

not gonna lie

oh wait

ig yea this raid needs quite some farmables

[cobalt kite]

And besides I already 2 team tormented it

[cosmic parrot]

well idk what we're talking abt anymore lo;

[cobalt kite]

I was talking about Luna

[cosmic parrot]

oh then pog lol

eh

well for luna im also a victim lol

eligma-ed neru from ue30 to ue50

[cobalt kite]

Because luna needs more students... you need more time...

[cobalt kite]

Started at the first gehenna party but had to stop for 5 months. Im catching up

[pseudo grove]

long overdue but I enjoyed having to build nonomers and fpina for this raid

[cosmic parrot]

u can aim for binah luna

well

[cobalt kite]

Yeah I can do that

[cosmic parrot]

currently luna is still quite difficult

cant clear without spending more time

[cobalt kite]

Himari will save everyone

[cosmic parrot]

needs research too

[cobalt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/himari-blue-archive-himari-dance-blue-archive-california-girl-gif-9699961061632941624

[pseudo grove]

himari won't make hovercraft much easier

well she'll let you save kisak for p2

[cosmic parrot]

well

[cobalt kite]

For binah

[cosmic parrot]

i have some bad news

[eager charm]

I don't trust that news

[sage fractal]

And you call yourself young? Smh I thought you were 6-8 months

[cosmic parrot]

well

[sage fractal]

That's a nearly 2 year old Sensei

[cosmic parrot]

im still waiting for proof

[cobalt kite]

Im pseudo young... all that wasted ap

really fucked this account

[cosmic parrot]

not starting on day 1 is already wasted

ur still ahead of 99% of the playerbase

its nothing

[cobalt kite]

Yeah I know... but it irks me to no end... Means I cant actually do luna nor the 110+ of frr

[pseudo grove]

what's "the first gehenna party"?

[cosmic parrot]

well u got like way more constraints than me

and i still havent cleared a 110+

barely did one lun

[cobalt kite]

The first event not the rerun

[pseudo grove]

what party

[cosmic parrot]

dhina 3rd anni ig

[cobalt kite]

Bro.... 😭

[pseudo grove]

3rd anni with a 5month break is baby

[cosmic parrot]

sobasically 3.5 anni

trollg

[wooden pond]

U can literally do Lun Binah with a 8 months account i think

[cosmic parrot]

i mean cant stress them to doing so

1.5y aiming for it is also reasonable

[wooden pond]

It was even easier than the last Urban Torment

[cobalt kite]

Im going to destroy binah harder than maki ever did

[wooden pond]

Lun Binah is literally just some BS, it's so easy to the point that people have to invent new way to mald

Just to make it somewhat harder

[eager charm]

Isn't like no fest 4 pan?

And no fest/limited 6 pan

Crazy

[cobalt kite]

You don't get it... maybe you are not a perfectionist like me... I NEED to clear the highest possible raid

[pseudo grove]

uh

[cobalt kite]

Also im f2p

[pseudo grove]

um

you're just too young as an f2p

go whale

[wooden pond]

There's no such thing as f2p perfectionist

[cobalt kite]

That's what I am

[pseudo grove]

at the very least buy monthlies

[cobalt kite]

That's why it hurts to clear everything

[pseudo grove]

they are cheap and extremely good

but with just monthlies you're not gonna catch up

[cobalt kite]

Im gonna splurge a little this fest but thats it for me

[sage fractal]

Bro, you don't just clear all F110+ FRR and Lunas by playing for 18-24 months

Not how this game works

[pseudo grove]

which anni are we at now

[sage fractal]

Close to 5th anni

[pseudo grove]

mechalice is 5.0?

[sage fractal]

Yea

Like, F110 outside of maybe Blue Set is heavy investment required, shit's not cheap

[cobalt kite]

That's why Im saying... if i had the actual time I could do better... because I can clear at least 106F of every FRR even with the time lost

[pseudo grove]

the gap between 106 and 110 is bigger than between 100 and 106

[wooden pond]

But u can actually clear half of them instead

[cobalt kite]

I just need the right students with the right investments I have basically everything ready already its not that deep 😩

[sage fractal]

You think F110 Chok is achievable that soon?

[sage fractal]

Bro really thinks it's as simple as "play more and you can UE everything needed for these raids"

[cobalt kite]

HOW is that not the case bro...

[sage fractal]

You earn more Ligma from spending AP?

That's news to me

[cobalt kite]

Yes. Even if you dont count the farmables... If you spend more AP on events you get more ligma

[sage fractal]

Where did you make up this delusion from?

[cobalt kite]

Also you get more pyrox... so you can pull more and get more ligma

[sage fractal]

You...don't?

[cobalt kite]

Am I wrong???

[sage fractal]

Yes

[cobalt kite]

Ok. Elaborate

[sage fractal]

Outside of specific events like Ninja event right now, most have a cap of like, 50 Ligma per event

Playing that event more doesn't change that to 51 Ligma

[cobalt kite]

Its more common than you think... camp prayball

[sage fractal]

It really is not

[cobalt kite]

I just showed 2 examples...

[sage fractal]

Out of 30 events a year?

3 out of 30 in a year, that's not a lot

[cosmic parrot]

man

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

it is not

[sage fractal]

And optimizing more from Ligma events will net you prolly a few hundred extra Ligma

[cobalt kite]

You guys dont get it... its fine. I can be the different one

[sage fractal]

Which is good income, but nowhere near enough to do F110+ on every FRR

[pseudo grove]

it is that simple if you're willing to brick yourself from TA raids

[wooden pond]

Well tbf, i did clear 5/8 Lun and 2/6 FRR 110+ with this 23 months account

The solution is just 🦖

[sage fractal]

No he thinks that the extra Ligma income from Ligma events will get him all the Lunas and all the F110s

[wooden pond]

f2p is impossible

[pseudo grove]

next year at the current powercreep rate

[cobalt kite]

It would get me closer, but okay man Im not trying to convince you

[pseudo grove]

but it's a moving goalpost and an f2p 2yo account will always be behind

not even a matter of luck

[cosmic parrot]

wut goalpost

[pseudo grove]

you can have 220 units but they'll be useless at lv1

[cosmic parrot]

f110 wont change difficulty

[cobalt kite]

Nothing is impossible 😭

[pseudo grove]

take blue set as an example
110 is no longer a goal

it's way too easy

[wooden pond]

I have to purchase selector for Lun to compensate for less time playing

So definitely not f2p

[sage fractal]

Going from needing another 12 months to needing another 11.5 months is...really not that big of a deal

[pseudo grove]

selectors are f2p

[wooden pond]

True

[cobalt kite]

Ok

[cosmic parrot]

i think i only did 106 blue set lol

[sage fractal]

But it's ok, if you like beating yourself up, go ahead

[cobalt kite]

You are treating me like your worst enemy 😭

[pseudo grove]

I did the recent blue set 110 without a plan/reference with no restart

[sage fractal]

I am not, I genuinely do not care

[cosmic parrot]

i mean i dont think ur listening

[pseudo grove]

so yeah it's no longer a 110 comparable to other 110s

[cosmic parrot]

ur trying to speedrun and be ahead of long term players

if u cant then u mald abt why they achieve better scores

[sage fractal]

I did say "outside of maybe Blue Set"

[cosmic parrot]

theres no point man

just move forward

[pseudo grove]

but it's gonna be the same with blue choke with mechalice

that's the point about a moving goalpost

[sage fractal]

Ehhh...you still need the bulk to survive F110+ Chok, no?

Whereas Blue Set can be memed with 4* supports