🗼final-restriction-release

[cosmic parrot]

my condolences

[rare arch]

I didn’t feel that much lag while playing

Maybe it’s just the video

[cosmic parrot]

anyway no dont use mreisa right away

[rare arch]

Ok that’s a start

Instead of mreisa which skill should I start off with

[cosmic parrot]

only tyuuka in those 20s

some use shosh too but depends on you

[rare arch]

In the starting skills?

[cosmic parrot]

then just usual rio+buff then dsaori dsaori mreisa

[rare arch]

I summon mreisa when?

[cosmic parrot]

in the middle of wave 1

i just dsaori mreisa dsaori instead ig

imma watch the rest later holy the lag is pain for my eyes

[rare arch]

Aight take your time

[cosmic parrot]

anyway prolly too many buffs on dsaori per wave

just give kisaki is enough

personally

[rare arch]

And Rio?

[cosmic parrot]

yea

on 3rd wave you give kisaki only anyway

to triple nozomi

but u didnt have enough cost ofc cus u were using too many buffs/cost

[rare arch]

Optimising that part?

[cosmic parrot]

yes saving like 10 cost per wave is nice

[peak mantle]

yeah yeah...

the powercrip of arisu is crazy work

[cosmic parrot]

girl kicked her out with D mood

[peak mantle]

they need to buff both hinatas on god

s.hinata had a potential

ignoring 80% of the opponents def is definitely powerful

[rare arch]

6 cost 💀

[cosmic parrot]

kinda would be red peroro dps if nagisa/hina/ckotori doesnt do well

(which they would

[rare arch]

Red peroro lost media

Interestingly mreisa shield stealing can be undone without making her vanish

[cosmic parrot]

haven't investigated why again

or how

[rare arch]

I’ve noticed that tyuuka walked into nozomi when nozomi initially didn’t move towards the shield

Then nozomi decided to move

Maybe I should test it out

I think I know what is causing it

[cosmic parrot]

ur supposed to bodytank the nuke and shield right after for wave 4

mreisa should be up when the sky turns red

not after the nuke

but u didnt have enough cost anyway

if you decide to shield the nuke it'd be have to be rio's copy of tyuuka and youd need to have 15+ cost

[rare arch]

Bodytanking the nuke?

[cosmic parrot]

yes they survive the nuke at full hp

[rare arch]

What about the aa that happens right after awakening?

[cosmic parrot]

should be easy for 106

[cosmic parrot]

just delay tyuuka by 1 second?

so her shield goes up right after them tanking the nuke

instead of tanking the nuke itself

[rare arch]

So the shield goes up immediately after taking the big nuke dmg?

[cosmic parrot]

yes

thats one way to do it

you can also just

save enough cost to use tyuuka again like in the vid ofc

but you didnt have enough cost to rio tyuuka

[rare arch]

Alright

I did a little testing on mreisa shield interaction

If the flagpole is still up, a third student can pick it if updated

Similar to boshi repo tech in gaybruh?

[cosmic parrot]

yea that one ik

but no one goes to it unless mreisa leaves

but sometimes weird shit still happens

[rare arch]

From my testing, mreisa doesn’t need to leave for that to happen

[cosmic parrot]

yea idk when they even decide to get it

[rare arch]

So far I have only proven that mreisa doesn’t need to leave

[cosmic parrot]

my guess is when she uses her basic?

but idts

[rare arch]

Using an ex skill doesn’t seem to force repo

Basic skills might be the key to repo

When aoba gets sucked back in and tyuuka flag is still there, she will take it

[cosmic parrot]

bruh what someone did 106 with this

i feel humiliated

[sterile dove]

hm any tip guys? i've done 1 nozomi burst on each waves except wave 3, and it looks like it's not enough gg, or maybe it's just me having severe skill issue on the escape sequence

[rare arch]

Sometimes interrupting her basic even

[cosmic parrot]

do 0 on wave 1
2 on wave 2
3 on wave 3

thats too less

[sterile dove]

alr i'll try

[cosmic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/live/4NfSIB-w560

man hikari hp is so damn low

[eager charm]

[rare arch]

Seems like reloading makes a student reclaim mreisa stolen shield

Basic and reloading does something but ex skills don’t

[cosmic parrot]

tf did nozomi just die max hp

[rare arch]

Think I figured out what causes a student to reclaim shield stolen by mreisa

[cosmic parrot]

also think all 3 tiph aa during rest phases are determined right before the whole phase

not before each shot

[rare arch]

It is?

How did you find that

[cosmic parrot]

summoning mreisa right after 1st aa

on 3rd aa it still doesnt target mreisa

or does it

lemme check again

yea think it doesnt

[rare arch]

Assuming mreisa is not the furthest target?

[cosmic parrot]

yea lemme put her on top rq

ok wait what

it doesnt retarget when i put her here

[rare arch]

From what I’ve seen

[cosmic parrot]

but then it does here

[rare arch]

It only targets mreisa if it wasn’t already in the middle of its attack animation

[peak mantle]

guys... my team die i don't know how to rotate

[rare arch]

If it was beginning it’s attack, it only targets mreisa in the next attack

[peak mantle]

phase two is extremely draining

[peak mantle]

f100

[regal arrow]

practice makes perfect

[peak mantle]

i want to go 105

[regal arrow]

[peak mantle]

i want the gifts for hinata

[peak mantle]

well i'm not going anywhere like that

look

he is about to do the vortex thing

my team won't survive that

and i don't have enough time either to heal or shield

[regal arrow]

how about you swap eimi to kaede, kaede is more low cost friendly ig

[rare arch]

I think ima take a break from f100 malding

[peak mantle]

yeah no

i'm not building anything else

i'm done doing that

[peak mantle]

u haven't beaten 100 yet ?

[rare arch]

No

[peak mantle]

omg twinning

[rare arch]

I might try again after yesod is done with

[peak mantle]

i'm not doing yesod honestly

i'm not trying to get bald

hard ass mechanics

[peak mantle]

yeah she's staying right here

maybe next chokmah

i mean tiphareth

[regal arrow]

ohh are you tyuukalet too?

[peak mantle]

nah

Gg wiped because aoba died

[cosmic parrot]

ok no cant figure out how tiph retargetting works

[peak mantle]

wym

the only thing that pmo is my character repositioning for healing

they fucking annoying

Fuck you?

[rare arch]

Which part exactly?

[cosmic parrot]

#🗼final-restriction-release message

[rare arch]

I know it has something to do with her position

[cosmic parrot]

i think if shes not one of the first 3 targets tiph wont retarget

[rare arch]

First 3 targets?

[cosmic parrot]

assuming tiph even targets from front to back like chok missiles

[rare arch]

I think I got a run where hikari was the one who didn’t get hit

And she was way left

[cosmic parrot]

oh yea that type of shit also happens

some random student other than rei becomes the one not getting hit

???

[rare arch]

And another run where tiph completely misses a standing target

I think that’s what happened

[sterile dove]

how did you burst 3 times on wave 3? like how do you avoid having no cost to clear mob on wave 4

[cosmic parrot]

how much are you buffing dsaori

[sterile dove]

only hikari

and she can clear one core

[cosmic parrot]

thats less cost than me tf

how are you getting low on cost

[sterile dove]

it's f100 bro 🥶

[cosmic parrot]

100 is easy

[sterile dove]

after i nozomi burst 3 times on wave 3

i have no cost left

[cosmic parrot]

yes

so only mreisa then tyuuka shield nuke

[sterile dove]

and sometimes, even someone died cause i having skill issue using tyuuka lol

[cosmic parrot]

then wave 4 starts

rio hikari dsaori aoba dsaori cycle cycle cycle dsaori

no issues

[sterile dove]

i actually swapped mreisa to hanako, for some reason aoba can't survive wave 4 onward gg

[cosmic parrot]

[sterile dove]

i'll try reisa again

[peak mantle]

what is archangel even trying to do

[rare arch]

He’s cooking

[sterile dove]

just got my farthest run yet with your comp, but after aoba died on wave 4, everything goes down hill lol

@cosmic parrot what * is your mreisa rn?

[cosmic parrot]

ue40

[sterile dove]

damn no wonder

LOL

mine's 4*

[pseudo grove]

if she's 4* you're better off using hanako

if aoba dies on wave 4 the run is unsalvageable

[cosmic parrot]

i have to shield aoba on wave 3 i think

[rare arch]

Is the t10 necklace that impactful for tyuuka if already at t9

[sterile dove]

8m bruhhhh

[regal arrow]

[rare arch]

Is that the ue40 tyuuka diff?

[regal arrow]

yea

but ig i lack of damage because my nozomi only ue30 and t9

[rare arch]

My nozomi only t9 hat and watch and ue30

[sterile dove]

oh my god finally

that was too close for my heart LOL

[cosmic parrot]

[rare arch]

Goddamn

All these ue40 tyuuka

[sterile dove]

anyway getting mreisa to u30 seem to fixed my aoba's survivability problem lol

[sterile dove]

i'm having skill issue using her anyway even with this

[split kiln]

my tyuuka not ue40 hehe

[cosmic parrot]

man i forgo to record my 104

[cosmic parrot]

man so sad shosh died

stupid mreisa not tanking tiph aa

?? im getting screwed by right core not shooting missiles

like

its not even funny man

time to send aoba to left instead for wave 4

[regal arrow]

iirc on wave 3, right core didnt shot the missile, isnt it

[languid oriole]

Bc it not active

[cosmic parrot]

yea no shit i mean wave 5

its a weird bug

[foggy ruin]

Oh my god

Scammer

[cosmic parrot]

can do this for mreisa to not steal shield ig

[uneven belfry]

finally done 100 for the first time smh

[peak mantle]

cake

[uneven temple]

can yall STOP SOCIAL DISTANCING

[pseudo grove]

if you target tyuuka wayy to the back, she should target all three squishy idiots

playing too much tiph makes you good at approximating distances

[uneven temple]

ok

[uneven temple]

FAHHH\

[sage fractal]

F99 Saori Dress solo DPS without Kisaki. Insanely bald, do not recommend

[peak mantle]

finally someone who understands

[uneven temple]

FINALLY 100

2nd after Blue Set

[uneven temple]

I just realised, the angle of final phase looks a bit different, higher than before. Has Tiphareth been adjusted? screenshot below is yellow version at Dec '25.

[peak mantle]

maybe it was for the mobile players

i think it's worse

[peak mantle]

(phone)

[uneven temple]

no wonder why is now easier for me to cast skill there

I use PC

[regal arrow]

[golden smelt]

I seriously hate this raid

They really need to fix all the movement issues

[hearty thicket]

i wanna shove my head in an air fryer

stage 50 without any useful aoe sonic students is hell

[golden smelt]

Just borrow

[hearty thicket]

even so

[rare arch]

Just how difficult is it to keep nezo alive during wave 4 and 5

[quiet jewel]

not hard at all for nezo

ue60 b150

[rare arch]

Ue40 though

Bond idk

[quiet jewel]

generally not that hard

arch was having trouble for some reason

[rare arch]

Is that with or without shielding nezo

[quiet jewel]

what floor r u doing

or planning

[rare arch]

F100

[golden smelt]

No need to shield

But afaik need to heal

[rare arch]

That might be an issue

[quiet jewel]

isn't mreisa human rights

how are you struggling to heal nezo

[rare arch]

I have no idea

Maybe because nezo just runs out of the heal radius?

[quiet jewel]

just... place mreisa better

usually isn't that hard to heal entire team with mreisa

[rare arch]

Position where

[golden smelt]

Mreisa tends to steal tyuuka shield

Especially wave 4 and 5

[rare arch]

Which is what I’m trying to avoid

[quiet jewel]

just use tyuuka before mreisa then

[rare arch]

Is it even possible to clear f100 with 3* tyuuka then

[golden smelt]

It's not always possible especially if you need to spam tyuuka

[golden smelt]

I don't think so

[rare arch]

Should I make her ue30/40 then?

[golden smelt]

Nozomi should be able to use ue30

If you use smika you pretty much need ue40

[rare arch]

Alright

[rare arch]

Maybe I’ll just do it after yesod is done

[cosmic parrot]

3* tyuuka nozomi can do 100

[rare arch]

Is my team invest even there for f100

[cosmic parrot]

shes ue30 and i gotta shield her during wave 4

also 8.5k atk on f100 vs 10k atk

[quiet jewel]

high tiph

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845020737227587684/1443487694335508650/Baldoshino.gif

[cosmic parrot]

genuinely feels like even 100 doesnt hit that hard anymore

[cedar elm]

Im forced to use kokona and shit hits pretty hard shes on life support 24/7

[rancid bay]

best team i can make for final restriction?

[languid oriole]

your kokona simply too weak

[quiet jewel]

lower floors always feel easy when you're balding higher floors

[sour garden]

104 is pain

how do people even survive on 105+

[cosmic parrot]

dont use kok if her and shanako both dies to wave 5

[rare arch]

Is it that bad if I decided to just not try to clear f100 purple tiph

[languid oriole]

🧱

[rare arch]

Nuh uh

[naive widget]

Whats the miminum requirements to beat floors 75+ cause I don't think I've ever attempted higher than floor 74.
Looking at the teams used for clearing, im missing both rio and t.yuuka and some of the rest need more investment. (40m+ credits probably)

[wild talon]

99

[rancid bay]

?

[wild talon]

who are you borrowing

[foggy ruin]

Bro how can i timing to place kotori ex?

[naive widget]

D. Saori ue30 maxxed out
My rei is only 4 star and not leveled equipment wise so using her would probably not be good.

[foggy ruin]

In phase 2, tiph always nuke my smika

[quiet jewel]

phase 2? or wave 4

[wild talon]

for t.yuuka replacement you can use either s.eimi or kotori

[foggy ruin]

When the screen turn red and tiph launch a nuke

I dont know when to place kotori ex

[quiet jewel]

yea this the red nuke?

[foggy ruin]

Yes

That

[quiet jewel]

I place it on top of smika when the light blinks

[foggy ruin]

My timing always too early or too late

[quiet jewel]

like in his eye

[wild talon]

need good timing for the heal yeah

[quiet jewel]

once you see him charging, hover kotori EX for time slow

then just play around with timings

[wild talon]

s.mika's armor is stinky

[quiet jewel]

smika needs to be full hp going into the attack

then kotori shield the nuke, and rotate back to kotori shield missiles

then, rotate back again for the next nuke

you might need to rio kotori for the last one

but you want rio on dsaori for wave 4

[cosmic parrot]

kotori f100? 😟

[quiet jewel]

only f99

even i'm not bald enough to try f100 with copetori

i'll bald it once I get tyuuka

[naive widget]

S. Shiroko, kaede, S. Shizuko, S. Koharu, momiji, atsuko, S. Mika....maybe iori, S. Hoshino, iroha.

When you're doing tiphy you need AOE DPS for the bots, AOE healers, AOE shielders, and buffers.
So look for students like that, but typically 1-2 of each should be ok to build a team.
They need invest not sure what floors you're doing or level you are but you still have some other students listed here that can work.

[rancid bay]

um, what about buffers? i dont see u saying any on the team

but how many dps, healer shielder and buffers do u want each? so i can form a team

nvm i completely missed the part where u said that for some reason sorry

got it, thanks!

[rancid bay]

but wait, one more thing that i forgot to ask
whats the best dpses for that out of what i have? (numbers wise)
shanako and smika? but smika is st

[foggy ruin]

Uhh, can you record your clear pls? Im too frustrated to clear f99

[quiet jewel]

i'll give it a shot

[cosmic parrot]

whats ur team even

100 with kotori smika is like asking for death

[foggy ruin]

Kinda like duck’s team but slightly more invested?

[cosmic parrot]

i dont see his team either

[naive widget]

Yes those two are fine but the reason you use s.mika is because you need to do direct damage to tiphy at the end of the fight and intermediately.
Buffers: kisaki, c. hare, s. hoshi

[foggy ruin]

.

[rancid bay]

i c, thanks!

[cosmic parrot]

bro no dont even think abt it

just kaede it man

[languid oriole]

chat i need another dsaori or rei borrow

[foggy ruin]

I wish i had her

Her eleph hasnt reset yet

[rare arch]

Damn

[foggy ruin]

Im beyond cooked

Shouldve buy her eleph more often

[cosmic parrot]

ngl even with kaede ur dropping a cdmg buffer

which is sad for smika

[foggy ruin]

[clear ice]

[sage fractal]

Or you drop Rio

[cosmic parrot]

oh right smika doesnt need

[sage fractal]

Which is worse, Kotori F100 or Seia Swimsuit F100

[cosmic parrot]

kotori

tyuuka shield is like

unbeatable

oh u mean kaede instead

[sage fractal]

That's saying something

[cosmic parrot]

still kotori worse

her shield is like

[sage fractal]

No, I mean, if you were to bald one of these

[cosmic parrot]

impossible to sustain

[cosmic parrot]

sseia ofc

kotori duration is the issue

and shitty timings

[sage fractal]

Anyway, now that I'm free from F99 balding, I can now snooze and celebrate calc wife's birthday

[lone comet]

is there a reason why no one seems to be using dsaori with mreisa on 106 clear units? is it a range thing that makes dsaori hard to tyuuka

its all rei and the only dsaori ones have oshig

[cosmic parrot]

imo cus rei always stands at the far back

u can guarantee her being the one not getting hit

and do shit like

but the 118 clear uses dsaori mreisa anyway

[rare arch]

So using dsaori over rei is just a preference

[cosmic parrot]

yes

[sage fractal]

Isn't there also output issues with Rei once you reach a high enough floor?

Oh nvm the Labourers are scaled by level

[lone comet]

rei and dsaori functionally do the exact same dmg, the only difference is their cost refund/down mechanic and their aa/range

if anything rei does slightly more

i think saori aa is slightly better hence why all the solo strats use her

[foggy ruin]

Just because i skipped tyuuka, now i cant do anything above f74

[lone comet]

kaede

[foggy ruin]

Tiphareth always nuked my smika

[foggy ruin]

I dont own her yet

[lone comet]

why not

she should at least be ue by now

[foggy ruin]

I know…, but i forgot to buy her eleph, thats my fault

[lone comet]

you're not new enough to have not had the chance to buy her

[foggy ruin]

Now i cant do anything

[lone comet]

well its a 🧱 of your own making then

next time farm your farmables

esp the good ones

[sage fractal]

It's the opposite (based on calcs). Rei has higher AA dmg, Saori Dress has slightly higher EX dmg

[foggy ruin]

I will get my revenge later

[cedar elm]

Kaede doesnt even need ue

[sage fractal]

Ye I can't believe I got the 99 clear tbh

[cedar elm]

I still have her at 3 star and lvl 85 and i can beat floor 99

[foggy ruin]

Abt that…

[sage fractal]

It took a more aggressive rot where I had to UE40 calc wife and use less heals

[cedar elm]

Bruh

[sage fractal]

And a LOT of balding

But doable

[lone comet]

even buying this months?

[foggy ruin]

Yes, i forgot to bought her eleph a month ago

[lone comet]

kaede is like the only good adv coin ga unit

[cedar elm]

Also hows your pyrox count so low tho did you get shafted on everything?

We basically started at the same time

[foggy ruin]

No, i did saved them

I did dumped my newbie pyrox on pyuuka so…

[cedar elm]

Damn what i have like 70k more pyrox than you

[lyric atlas]

All title once more

[sage fractal]

Can't believe Porple Tiph is my 2nd F99 clear

[foggy ruin]

Nice

[rare arch]

Yellow chokmah is still my only f100 clear

[cosmic parrot]

both tiphs were my first 100

[rare arch]

So far the only frr I haven’t gotten to f99 was red set

After I’m done with yesod I wonder if I should throw everything I have left on f100

[lyric atlas]

Few runs ago, reisa is my mood

[naive widget]

So close

[rare arch]

How cooked would I be for Jerome if I spent all I have on f100

[cosmic parrot]

just dont be obsessed with hiero

[rare arch]

That’s the second rerun with yellow and blue torment

[rare arch]

How insane would it be to use dsaori only on the 5 waves like the solo clear and nozomi just for groggy phases?

[cosmic parrot]

below 104 its ok

borderline

[lone comet]

i mean you usually have a lot of spare cost so you can afford to throw a few nozo at the cores

also having to go through buffs to cycle back so like you might as well also drop on nozo

[sage fractal]

Wave 2-3 you should have spare cost no?

Like, at the very least, Waves 2-3 you can throw out one. Wave 1 probably you could too, and then after that it's groggy spam

[rare arch]

Wave 1 nah

There’s also the cost factor

[foggy ruin]

Yo, you did cleared f99 with shanako?

[cosmic parrot]

yea

actually think thats also doable with kotori

gonna try later

[foggy ruin]

Im trying your hw ngl

Borrow tyuuka may helped

[cosmic parrot]

😟 dude i just threw anything no hw

literally like my 5th try

surely someone out there has a better hw

[foggy ruin]

My reaction:

[cosmic parrot]

but it's quite easy if you get it

[foggy ruin]

Sure, imma note that

[cosmic parrot]

just shield twice more than usual

and can cleanup mobs with dps

[cosmic parrot]

didn't you clear 99 already

[foggy ruin]

No i havent

[cosmic parrot]

☹️

[foggy ruin]

So im finding a hw that have tyuuka in it

And smh i got your hw

With shanako in it too

I might try it later after noting your tl

[cosmic parrot]

the only real "notable" thing in that is like the tyuuka timings

other than that i just spammed shanako/nozomi anytime i want

and shanako died on wave 5 cus i cba

if you can keep her alive then its better ofc

[sage fractal]

Honestly, her surviving isn't all that important by then

My Aoba dies on Wave 5 too but it's a necessary sac

[cosmic parrot]

my shanako cant clear the drones during groggy cus she dies lmao

so i just spent a nozomi ex on the drones

in the vid

[sage fractal]

Oh shit yea I forgot about the drones on F99

[foggy ruin]

Oh…

I just realized that im using smika

[sage fractal]

Center Place upgrade on F100 is stupid btw

That shit is so ass

[pseudo grove]

ok yeah reisa makes 0 sense and was a mistake

[rare arch]

Mreisa is just silly

[cosmic parrot]

does other summons even behave this weirdly

[rare arch]

I think I got something similar with Acari on last blue set

[cosmic parrot]

ikr they couldve made like labourers harder to kill or smth

or whatever

but the 100 skill literally doubles tiph dmg

[pseudo grove]

they couldve made laborers easier to kill

there is no reason for them to be this bulky

[bold thicket]

why is the jump between floor 99 and 100 so massive?

[cosmic parrot]

cus you can do whatever on 99

100+ is proper frr as always

f99 on any frr is kinda a joke

u dont even need a repo tank on 99 if you have the sustain

and nozomi easily clears on groggy in return

so 100 they doubled tiph dps and +50mil hp

[rare arch]

On purple

[bold thicket]

i only have ue30 dsaori on my friend list

[cosmic parrot]

its plenty

[rare arch]

Yellow is just 7m more hp

[bold thicket]

those mobs get so tanky

[cosmic parrot]

ue30 with one buff kills i think

[rare arch]

Also gotta love how some labourers avoid death even from a fully maxed dsaori

[bold thicket]

ue30 with 1 buff doesnt kill

[cosmic parrot]

☹️

[bold thicket]

reliably

[cosmic parrot]

100?

https://youtu.be/OUh3Xjmpyhw imma try this on 100 later

clueless

[bold thicket]

wow i totally have that dps

not

[cosmic parrot]

☹️

not having shupos and/or dsaori/rei for f100 is like

[bold thicket]

i have to borrow dsaori, my shupos are ue50

[sage fractal]

There is a Saori Dress solo F100

[cosmic parrot]

wait then what

[sage fractal]

But uh, that one is difficult to pull off

[cosmic parrot]

find a better borrow the

[sage fractal]

Not really needed tho

UE30 Nozomi already clears F100

UE50 makes it easier

[cosmic parrot]

or just give dsaori 2 buffs

ue50 nozomi nukes tiph

[sage fractal]

Ye just distribute the buffs a bit more in the early waves

You lose some early DPS but it should not matter too much

[rare arch]

T3 colgate :badshino:

[bold thicket]

doesnt help that i lose track of units, tiph has so much stuff on screen

[sage fractal]

If you need to slow down

[bold thicket]

have to wait a bit because of smokescreen

[sage fractal]

Just hold on to an EX card, game goes into bullet time

[cosmic parrot]

do you have this on

[sage fractal]

Smokescreen is only between Wave 3/4 transition no?

[rare arch]

Just when it awakens

[sage fractal]

Oh yeah Tiph is 100% unplayable without that

[rare arch]

Imagine accidentally buffing hikari

[sage fractal]

You have literally no idea who you're buffing

[rare arch]

And not knowing why you’re doing so little damage

[cosmic parrot]

no need to imagine

i buff the wrong twin even with that on

[rare arch]

[cosmic parrot]

[rare arch]

Shupo kissing still in stocks

[sage fractal]

A few runs dies to wrong buff target

Not very common tho

[rare arch]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-shupogaki-nozomi-hikari-yuri-gif-15074154797092747476

[pseudo grove]

can they rerun the train event tomorrow

[rare arch]

How are you meant to buff nozomi like this

[cosmic parrot]

give my free ue50 aoba

[pseudo grove]

like I wanna ligma aoba but then what will I do on the rerun

[sage fractal]

Most common resets are social distancing resulting in shield sequences that are not ideal/don't work, or not hitting HP thresholds

[cosmic parrot]

ive calculated and

[bold thicket]

my f99 run almost died when my nozomi walked out of my mreisa on the final phase, she died but boss had little hp left

[cosmic parrot]

1* to ue40 is almost halfway ue40 to ue60

so just ligma again

[sage fractal]

Imma go for UE50 minimum on rerun. This shit is actually so ass without stronger Aoba

What does UE40 give again? +Def or +HP?

[cosmic parrot]

hp

[pseudo grove]

hp

[rare arch]

Hp

Damn I’m slow

[sage fractal]

Yeah that UE40 prolly starts to matter on the bald floors of 106+

[cosmic parrot]

just shield shosh/aoba on wave 2/3

make sure theyre max hp entering red sky

[crisp shale]

wait which is more comfy Nozomi or S mika in a way for f 99

[sage fractal]

Nozomi and it's not even close

[pseudo grove]

it matter with thermite qtpie

[cosmic parrot]

on wave 2 kisaki shield actually comes in time of the missiles

[pseudo grove]

if I shield aoba then my squishies eventually die

rio on tyuuka is inevitable

[cosmic parrot]

yea idk how people do this

[sage fractal]

Truly a situation

Tiph F100+ is by far, the hardest amongst the FRRs

Not even a contest

[cosmic parrot]

even if my aoba survives till wave 5, shosh still dies

purple problems ig

in yellow mika(nozomi) is actually tanky so u dont need to shield her

[sage fractal]

Ye I was gonna say, in terms of survivability, Meeka is so much better

[pseudo grove]

in yellow my ui(hikari) has 41k hp as opposed to 35k

[cosmic parrot]

oh yea i ue30ed hikari for this

[sage fractal]

I'm guessing Seia is not usable on F100+?

[cosmic parrot]

this is borderline impossible without

[pseudo grove]

good luck

[sage fractal]

I guess I'm just never doing F100 Tiph till god knows when

[cosmic parrot]

for hikari?

[pseudo grove]

I forgot again that this game lies about hp

actually 3* hikari may be tankier than ue2 b50+50 ui

[cosmic parrot]

her def?

[pseudo grove]

her passive isn't accounted for in the in-game stats screen

[cosmic parrot]

ouh hikari enh

[sage fractal]

Oh yea, Hikari has HP Enh

[pseudo grove]

sorry hikari for doubting you

[cosmic parrot]

😟

ok damn we rly need an ui replacement

how tf did they do 116 yellow

oh nvm mika

[bold thicket]

i dont see a single ue30 dsaori on the f100 clears

[pseudo grove]

with shiggy

[sage fractal]

TL;DR: Tiph sucks because Striker options are so limited

[cosmic parrot]

no red daru no striker kaede

[regal arrow]

smeeka soo squishy bruh, bit late get a shield she died

[sage fractal]

Nah that's Tiph doing unholy amounts of dmg

[sage fractal]

Because most people raise Nozomi and borrow someone's super strong Saori Dress

[cosmic parrot]

ngl no its like half half

again 3* dsaori works

[pseudo grove]

lots of saori simps reinforced by rei simps

[cosmic parrot]

id ue40 dsaor/rei just to borrow nozomi ngl

but still no damn spooks till now

[sage fractal]

Well, for the highest floors that makes sense

[rare arch]

I would if I had dsaori or rei

[cosmic parrot]

same

[rare arch]

But I don’t

[sage fractal]

You don't really need UE60 Saori Dress prolly, but you would really love to borrow UE60 Nozomi

[cosmic parrot]

instead I got reijo spook

wrong frr man

[sage fractal]

I spooked Rei btw

[rare arch]

Do f116 yellow chokmah

[pseudo grove]

nozomi is a much better investment than dsaori

[cosmic parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-blue-archive-misono-mika-pan-beats-you-up-gif-6371939372137962792

[rare arch]

And I got qmarina spook

[cosmic parrot]

yea bond transfer for the eventual nozomi alt

[rare arch]

Knowing damn well I don’t need my own qmarina for the higher floors

[pseudo grove]

nozomi carried my goz

[rare arch]

Masterful gambit right there

[sage fractal]

Ye in terms of usefulness tho, Nozomi is better cos you actually use her outside of Tiph

[rare arch]

Just how rare is a qmarina borrow for yellow chokmah

[pseudo grove]

unlike other dedicated FRR carries nozomi is actually strong

[cosmic parrot]

is it even rare

[sage fractal]

Prolly easier to find Meru than Marina Qipao, no?

[cosmic parrot]

ue40+ qmarina is like mandatory above like idk 84

[sage fractal]

No? Meru can carry on F100

[cosmic parrot]

i mean qmarina investment

[sage fractal]

And you won't need a subdot too

[cosmic parrot]

meru? eh

[rare arch]

I don’t know about that one

[cosmic parrot]

wasnt active during meru debut so who even pulled for her

[rare arch]

But at f100+ ue40 qmarina not being enough is something

[sage fractal]

I think I saw more Meru solo DoT clears than Marina Qipao in the last Yellow Chok

[rare arch]

She has burn on ex and basic

[cosmic parrot]

jeez

[rare arch]

So she could probably stack 5 dmg debuff stacks easily?

[pseudo grove]

she was bis against boat for one season

then they gave miyu bg

[cosmic parrot]

lmao

[rare arch]

[sacred echo]

What kind of purple team would be good for tiphareth?

[cosmic parrot]

a purple one

[rare arch]

Pretty unsurprising

[pseudo grove]

unless you run something like that #🗼final-restriction-release message

[rare arch]

It’s still purple

Yukari hair is purple after all

[cosmic parrot]

[sacred echo]

Tiphareth mechanics are so weird

I guess koharu would be pretty good?

[cosmic parrot]

not rly

i mean no

tiph has yellow atk

and blue deals 1x to purple

[sacred echo]

hmh

[lone comet]

you have nozomi, so just borrow a dsaori for your aoe

theres your 2 dps

[sacred echo]

No one has one

[lone comet]

get better friends

rei also works if you have one available

[sacred echo]

no rei either

[lone comet]

.

[cosmic parrot]

shanako kinda works for low floors

[sacred echo]

it's why I'm looking into blue

[lone comet]

blue is neutral to purple

[cosmic parrot]

just try her for now

nozomi easily nukes low floors

[lone comet]

up to 49 you can kinda just buff nozomi and spam her at the nearest unshielded core

[bold thicket]

Does shoshino stack with mreisa?

[sacred echo]

I'm not planning on going past 75 I think

[lone comet]

yes

[sacred echo]

the mechanics get weird after that and have no idea what to do

[lone comet]

get better friends and 99 is probably easy

[sacred echo]

I'm just spamming shields and aoe

[cosmic parrot]

yes

[cosmic parrot]

prolly still clears 74

[sacred echo]

nyoo the timer always comes in

[lone comet]

you need to kill the labourers

if you're not bringing a proper aoe tip instead of taking ~50% true dmg will heal that much instead

[pseudo grove]

just watch the causew vid

[sage fractal]

It's 48% in the first 5 waves, another 6% at the end

So it's 54% HP just from killing mobs

[sacred echo]

Using this team

[lone comet]

chare and rio dont stack

3* healer and shielder are kinda low

[pseudo grove]

it's fine

you precast rio and postcast chare

it's a common strat

[lone comet]

ue50 shosh and hikari kinda sus

[pseudo grove]

this comp is totally fine for 99-

may run out of healing for shanako

but you have a free borrow slot

borrow dsaori/rei

[sage fractal]

I ran both for my F99 clear, made an actual difference ngl

[sacred echo]

Ahh no my hanako dies on 74

but it's a me mechanic issue

there's just so much going on

[lone comet]

no its because she has yellow armour

and your heals are low

[pseudo grove]

watch the causew vid and find a friend with dsaori/rei

and don't listen to imari skippers

[lone comet]

imari isnt really relevant for this raid

in fact she just dies

[sacred echo]

my other healers

[lone comet]

normal hanako works but it can be tricky to have everyone stand close enough together

[sacred echo]

49 will do for now

[lone comet]

49 is at the "free with a borrow to any level player"

[sage fractal]

You can just do Saori Dress solo F74

[lone comet]

so not really a particularly good goal for a max level player

[sacred echo]

yaa

[pseudo grove]

99 barely requires healing if you have a red armor team

again don't listen to imari skippers

[sacred echo]

I don't have imari

[pseudo grove]

neither does durgrith

[sacred echo]

the video is 24 minutes long?

[sage fractal]

If you wanna clear, you gotta learn the mechanics

[cosmic parrot]

its a monthly raid

[sage fractal]

Tiph is both mechanically dense, and has very few options to fulfill mechanics

[sacred echo]

it is a bit mechanically too tough for a blue archive boss

[lone comet]

bro is gonna be cooked next week

[sage fractal]

I feel like Tiph is less that and more of a lack of good Striker options

Only viable healers and CDmg buffers are both Special, you're locked onto Kisaki, it's doable without Rio but much harder, so that leaves Yuuka Track unless you wanna do Rioless or CDmg bufferless

[sacred echo]

I have a good track yuuka

[pseudo grove]

but then you're using track yuuka

[sacred echo]

yes

[sage fractal]

She's really not optimal for this because she only shields 3 others, and also has repo shenanigans

As much as I love my calculator wife, I genuinely think Kaede is better if you wanna comfy F99/F100

[sacred echo]

Luckily you don't miss too much by not performing with the unrestricted bosses

[sage fractal]

Nah, you miss a lot of LB mats if you don't clear 97

[sacred echo]

I've never cleared past 74

and I don't think most have

they're just simply too overtuned mechanicalyl or student-wise

[sage fractal]

Most players also never go past Ext on TA/GA so that point is moot

[sacred echo]

yaa

[sage fractal]

Anyway, it's all about learning mechanics and building good rotations

Play below 3x speed and/or hold onto EX cards for bullet time if needed

[sacred echo]

That is not for me

I'll try a bit to see how it goes

[sage fractal]

Then Yesod will destroy you on Hard difficulty I guess

[sacred echo]

that's fine

[cosmic parrot]

ba raids are mechanic heavy

thats a given

[sacred echo]

My least favorite part of BA is to analyze a ~20 minute long videos and then practicing it by milliseconds for hours it just tires me out of the game

I enjoy throwing my own teams and see how they'll fare

Tiphareth was just bizarre

A lot going on.. have to send Aoba for the bombs and a shield to reflect the missiles while healing your team and doing the maximum amount of AOE damage you can to the tiny adds which deal percentage damage to boss

[sacred echo]

I'll probably be missing a student for that - not sure haven't checked yet what it needs

[pseudo grove]

wakamo and shanako

[sacred echo]

I have those

[pseudo grove]

then you have everything needed for ins

[sacred echo]

Watched the Yesod video that boss seems fun

[cosmic parrot]

lol buffed the wrong twin again

+shosh stole shiekld

[sacred echo]

yes but aren't the LB mats really like nothing?

at least that's what I thought

the base stats don't seem to rise up much at all

maybe 1%?

[pseudo grove]

depends on your goals

people also push max bond across all alts for that extra 1%

[sage fractal]

Isn't it around 2% gain

[pseudo grove]

depends on the character

people made fun of takane for having particularly low bond stats

(people made fun of takane in general)

[cosmic parrot]

shosh dying was sad

cant have hikari on nozomi

think i wouldve cleared

[cosmic parrot]

lol

ok ue40 nozomi is forbidden from using her to break barriers

[rare arch]

Should I only use dsaori to break the barriers during the escape sequence?

[cosmic parrot]

ur ue30 nozomi? dont even think lol

dsaori it is

[rare arch]

Very well

[cosmic parrot]

look what ue40 did

[rare arch]

I can see that

[languid oriole]

bro dead as hell

[crisp shale]

the challenge mode of the event is similar to yesod's mechanic

[rare arch]

Practice mode for yesod

[cosmic parrot]

think we also had this for some other raid

[rare arch]

Gaybruh

On idols challenge

[sage fractal]

We had mini Pelolo on Sheside Outside too

[peak mantle]

i really have an issue with rotation

i mean my ass made bozomi take the debuff

i didn't notice she was shieldless

wait hold on

on this video it was all my fault

i should have shield before

then rio

[cosmic parrot]

use shield after nuke

they can tank it

[peak mantle]

They did not have enough tho

[cosmic parrot]

they had max hp before the nuke on 0:05

[peak mantle]

Fair

[grim agate]

I think I've maxed out this rotation's potential https://youtu.be/OhW7HPTWq0c

everything went as it should, with hikari's and nozomi's basics going off at good times

dunno if saving cost by not using oshig in a couple spots would let me do much more

[pastel coral]

I think this is my limit,also doing Tiphareth without cost recovery really suck
-# not even maxed Nozomi...

[sage fractal]

You would have to do Rioless rotation or drop CDmg buffer if you want to bring Cost Recovery sub slave

Or have Yuuka Track/Kotori

[cosmic parrot]

bruh

[peak mantle]

Choo choo

Lowkey i miss out on soo many damage on groggy one

If i didn't i would won

[sage fractal]

Wtf is this rotation lmao

A few things:

• You can start attacking early before groggy, that's 1 extra EX you can throw out
• If you are gonna throw out Aoba EX, might as well throw out Saori Dress EX

[pseudo grove]

I almost want to clip the first half and show it every time someone doubts aoba has to die die die

[sage fractal]

I hate to say this, but timing Aoba saccs is actually useful

Got the 4 EX on groggy by saccing Aoba on Wave 5

[sage fractal]

I mean, could've easily thrown out a Saori Dress EX instead of Aoba right there, at least that's much more dmg

Bro has only 8 students left, should be easy to cycle

[pseudo grove]

top 3 reasons why we prefer reisa over shiggy
\3. she increases atk by 20%
\2. she can tank red balls
\1. she makes it easier to murder aoba

[peak mantle]

I told u 😭 🙏

I suck ass at rotation

[pastel coral]

Playing at 1× speed then

Even at 2× speed feel too fast for me

[peak mantle]

True

[sage fractal]

I did F99 on 2x speed, 1x too slow. I just hold onto EX card when I need bullet time

The only raid I've ever done on 1x is Set F99/F100 ATG3

[cosmic parrot]

ngl i dont think highest floors kill aoba ironically

to use snagi cost debt

[sage fractal]

Do they burn cost by throwing out a bunch of Saori Dress EX too

To kill the labourers

[peak mantle]

U made me fart.

[pseudo grove]

I think that is possible on purple because cycling with hikari is so much smoother

but then where's the joy of playing tiph if you don't incinerate aoba

[peak mantle]

it's a joke

[cosmic parrot]

wait no think the one ive seen in on yellow

where you buff both mika syukari as groggy dps

and use cost debt

[pseudo grove]

there was a clear higher than nyan's?

[cosmic parrot]

the 116

[pseudo grove]

nyan's 116 killed aoba on wave 5

[cosmic parrot]

hm weird

guess its purple then

[peak mantle]

i really don't understand how y'all aoba die on F100

[sage fractal]

Oh the exact same way I killed my Aoba on Wave 5

[peak mantle]

This is mine and she doesn't die i didn't invest that much on her

[sage fractal]

You're using Eimi Swimsuit, she can't die when she gets shields all the time

[pseudo grove]

if she doesn't die on wave 5 we throw her into the laser

[sage fractal]

If she gets no heals no shields, she'll die even on 99

[peak mantle]

mine gets heal but it's not that crazy tho

she's always take the healing debuff

and i never sheild her ass either

i just throw her and then shield my team

[sage fractal]

Mine doesn't even get Shigure HS Basic most of the time

Cos everyone is constantly at 30% HP or less in my rotation

[peak mantle]

u guys gotta teach me the art of rotation

[sage fractal]

You wanna see my F99 run? It's pepega tho, not sure if you can learn anything from it

[peak mantle]

sure sure i'm open

i do struggle to analyse

[sage fractal]

https://youtu.be/vn1Kb8DgWr8 haven't written video description yet or anything btw

[peak mantle]

hold on

what is sexy seia doing here

[pseudo grove]

he's kisakilet

[sage fractal]

I don't have Kisaki

[peak mantle]

can i laugh

[sage fractal]

I mean sure, just know that you have Kisaki and are stuck at 99 with me 🙂

[peak mantle]

shhh

[pseudo grove]

why did you rio on tyuuka pre wave 2 instead of just throwing shiggy?

[sage fractal]

The shield lasts through Wave 2

[pseudo grove]

rio on tyuuka is awkward because you very quickly cycle back to the real yuuka card

and you have nothing to do with it

[sage fractal]

And I need to use her

Every wave is double Yuuka Track

[pseudo grove]

insane

this sexy seia must be lv80 666

[sage fractal]

I've had Hare Camp dying quite a few times because she does not catch shield

Level 89 1M9

[pseudo grove]

I didn't need to do that with sui

it was one or two rios on tyuuka

[sage fractal]

I mean, I have a grand total of 3 Rios on Yuuka Track

[peak mantle]

u are stronger than me mentally that's why u win

i have skill issue

i wish i could be better

i just feel like when i play i'm doing good in my own way

[sage fractal]

Skill issue can be fixed, but it takes time and practice. Maybe watching other people's clears can give you inspiration on how to rotate better

[peak mantle]

no clear uses shigure eimi combo

i felt build different

[sage fractal]

I am pretty sure there's Shigure Kaede ones, learn from those and adjust as necessary 👀

Actually wait, isn't Kaede also 4 cost

[pseudo grove]

kaede has cost reduction

but her duration is also much shorter so I don't think there's a meaningful diff

[peak mantle]

but kaede is cost friendly

unlick eimi

[sage fractal]

I mean, it's only 6 cost total diff, no?

Also Kaede is 16s, Eimi Swimsuit is 30s

[peak mantle]

obviously a cost comes with a bonus

unlike hinata swimsuit

[quiet jewel]

why tf are we bringing up shinata

[peak mantle]

because i'm trully disapointed in her kit

she could have a potentiel

but nah nexon fuck it

[cosmic parrot]

i got

screwed by the bug again

after finally getting a perfect run

[peak mantle]

what is this number

[sage fractal]

You don't trigger groggy without the missiles?

[cosmic parrot]

it didnt shoot any missiles

wave 5

[quiet jewel]

shinata is good for red peroro!

[cosmic parrot]

cus i sent aoba there wave 4

stupid bug

[sage fractal]

No, that's what I meant. I trigger groggy without the missiles

[peak mantle]

only.

[cosmic parrot]

yea i dont trigger everytime

[peak mantle]

red perror is like what once every 8 months ?

i want more fun

[cosmic parrot]

ngl think it scales with dmg dealt but not sure

[quiet jewel]

at least she's good at something lol

[peak mantle]

she's only good at staying in my cafe and get cuddles and gifts

[sage fractal]

I wonder if it's because of 4 missiles reflected on Waves 2-3 instead of 5/6

[sage fractal]

Every labourer you don't kill heals Tiph by 1% of max HP instead of dealing 1% of max HP as dmg

[peak mantle]

so u fucked up

[cosmic parrot]

yea ofc if ur kaede then its guaranteed

[sage fractal]

I guess you don't have 5 shields on Waves 2-3

[cosmic parrot]

u dont even need to kill all labourers if kaede

[sage fractal]

Because I do with Yuuka Track

[cosmic parrot]

aside from avoid self healinf

[sage fractal]

No, this is a ded run, because you want to trigger groggy at Wave 5. No groggy triggered is a ded run

[peak mantle]

i know

it's not my first tiphareth

i know how it works

[sage fractal]

Well he did say it's a bug

[peak mantle]

if u didn't kill every mobs around the cores u don't get the groggy automatically at wave 5

[peak mantle]

i never got that

[sage fractal]

No

You get groggy without killing the mobs on Wave 5

[peak mantle]

so automatically

i know what i'm talking bout 😭 don't worry

i was like automatically cause u don't need to do anything

but shield and wait

[sage fractal]

Well you weren't reading his messages then

[peak mantle]

[sage fractal]

He runs a rotation where earlier waves only reflect 4 missiles, so he actually depends on Wave 5 reflected missiles for consistent groggy

[cosmic parrot]

problem isnt me "relying on"

its literally supposed to fire

but it didnt

[sage fractal]

Just do left Wave 4 smh

[cosmic parrot]

cus of the damn bug

[cosmic parrot]

i send aoba too late

cus nerves

then i prayed for the bug to not show up

it did

[sage fractal]

High floor balding truly hits different

[cosmic parrot]

lmao im at the defeat screen for 5min and mreisa still dancing

[onyx belfry]

Who do I drop on a Kaede run? My normal specials are Rio, HS Shigure, S Nagisa, Kisaki

The... least ugly one I can drop is S Nagisa I think, but it's still pretty awful

[cosmic parrot]

@sly notch ?

[cosmic parrot]

traditional is dropping cdmg buff yes

but you can drop rio if you can figure out

[onyx belfry]

Ouch
Losing the Cost Debt is rough

[cosmic parrot]

dont recommend that

[cosmic parrot]

dude no that isnt the issue no

no cdmg buff is the issue

[sage fractal]

Flat out losing CDmg buff is where it really hurts

[onyx belfry]

Cost Debt means you can squeeze in an additional buff on the EX you launch every core phase

[cosmic parrot]

we lived without that quite normally

[sage fractal]

Ehhh...not really

[onyx belfry]

CDmg is also painful though

[cosmic parrot]

also no its rotation issues

[sage fractal]

Cost debt catches up to you later

[cosmic parrot]

u can fit ex skills easily even without the debt

[sage fractal]

I will say, it is convenient tho to go to -2

[onyx belfry]

...Hmm, yeah, brain fail. My rotations fell apart too early for that to manifest.

...Wellll

[sage fractal]

Also, Nagi Swimsuit's biggest appeal imo isn't even the cost debt for this

[onyx belfry]

Yeah -2

[sage fractal]

Bag gaming + 25s buffs

Is where it really hits good

Ako is only 16s

[onyx belfry]

True yeah

[cosmic parrot]

also funi no real replacement has came yet for tiph

so we're stuck with this hell for next tiph too

[onyx belfry]

Replacement for?

[cosmic parrot]

idk anyone "powercreep"

[sage fractal]

Silly Arch

[onyx belfry]

kek

[sage fractal]

We just skip Tiph again

[cosmic parrot]

and smika is fraud here

[onyx belfry]

Tbh I don't hate it

[sage fractal]

Let's be real though, we're working with kinda copium options on F100+ for the most part

[cosmic parrot]

so no more fes dps dream like blue chok

[onyx belfry]

Lots of suboptimal options that are suboptimal in different ways means you have to spend more brainpower picking your team

But F100+ malding would hurt people, yeah

[sage fractal]

The real game changer is to have a 6-shielder or CDmg buffer or AoE healer Striker that we can use

Cos that guarantees the comfy lineup

Right now is drop Rio, drop CDmg buffer or live with Yuuka Track

[onyx belfry]

"sorry best i can do is Takane" - John Nexon

[cosmic parrot]

ngl replacing shosh with takane aint even that much more comfy either

and u lose out on dps ofc